#533 - Our 2025 Spotify Wrapped!

Summary

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The Basement Yard #533 – "Our 2025 Spotify Wrapped!"

Release Date: December 15, 2025
Hosts: Joe Santagato, Frank Alvarez
Guest: Ant

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Episode Overview

In this episode of The Basement Yard, Joe, Frank, and Ant dive into their 2025 Spotify Wrapped results, comparing musical tastes, joking about their "listening ages," and exploring the generational quirks in their music choices. The conversation spirals into childhood nostalgia, club drinking habits, quirky party tricks, sentimental hoarding, and the eternal battle over hats. Along the way, they roast one another, reminisce about growing up, and grapple with the meaning behind keeping random items from their lives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Hat Talk & The New Era Debate

• The episode kicks off with playful banter about Ant’s New Era brand hat.
• Joe and Frank discuss the classic appeal of the Yankee hat, referencing Jay-Z’s famous lyric:

  "I made a Yankee hat more famous than a Yankee can."
  — Jay-Z, as paraphrased by Frank at [02:15]

• They question whether Jay-Z truly popularized the hat or simply promoted it further within hip hop culture.

2. Wikipedia & Online Misinformation Antics

• The crew jokes about their Wikipedia pages being vandalized with misinformation, specifically regarding their heights and podcast affiliations ([04:09]–[06:01]).
• AI and fans have perpetuated jokes, leading to locks on their pages:

  "Now AI is coming back around. It’s coming back around you because you know it's me. Yeah. You did a couple, you did too many jokes."
  — Joey [04:44]

3. Spotify Wrapped (and Apple Music) 2025: Musical Tastes Exposed

a. Ant’s Reveal: The Old Soul

• Ant’s listening “age”: 83 ([06:42])
• Favorite artists: Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, John Bellion
• Top songs include “Valare” and “Beyond the Sea.”
• The group teases Ant about his crooner-heavy playlist and joke he must write papers in a smoking jacket ([07:17]).
• Ant defends his taste:

  “That used to...be my playlist when I would write papers in college and grad school—Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin because their voices just get it on paper.”
  — Frank [07:26]

b. Frank’s Reveal: Family Jams & Broadway

• Musical “age”: presumably younger, but skewed by K-Pop and Hamilton tracks due to his kids ([13:09])
• Top artist: Billy Joel (after bingeing a documentary)
• Hamilton soundtrack dominates his top ten, along with Ozzy Osbourne (as tribute), and K-Pop Demon Hunters for his kids.
• Most played song: “Yakko’s World” from Animaniacs—Frank attempted to memorize all the world’s countries ([15:13]).
• Nugget:

  “I set a goal for myself. A little challenge to test my discipline...and I did it.”
  — Frank [16:11]

c. Joey’s Reveal: Indie Pop & Synesthesia

• Top song is “Olive Tree” by Quinn92.
• Joey jokes about not liking olives and discusses musical synesthesia ([14:28]).
• Joe rarely gets into K-Pop: "I haven't really gotten into K-Pop...I just haven't seen it" ([16:44]).

4. Moviegoing & Music Theater Musings

• Focused discussion on Wicked musical and the new movie adaption ([19:29]–[21:22]).
• Praises for Ariana Grande’s performance and career “full circle” moment ([20:35]):

  "I had this feeling of like, wow, I’m so happy for her...all she's wanted to do was like, do Wicked..."
  — Joey [20:37]

• Frank proposes Joey attends a new movie each month—Joey resists ([21:42]).

5. Nostalgic Drinking Stories: Clubs & Cocktails

• Exchanges about first club drinks, with Frank recalling requesting “Patron Silver Sprite, no ice, fill to the top” at 17 ([24:41]).
• Debates on worst club drinks (Red Bull + vodka), older trends (Nuvo, Hypnotic), and etiquette for ordering drinks at fancy bars ([28:10]):

  “I still to this day kind of have a difficult time with like, what drink do I order at a place that doesn't have a menu?”
  — Joey [28:24]

6. Bar Tricks & Johnny Whoop

• Ant introduces “Johnny Whoop”—a viral TikTok finger trick ([39:16]).
• Frank gets increasingly frustrated as the others deliberately mislead him on the trick ([44:11]):

  "Guys, I'm gonna fucking flip this table, I swear to God."
  — Frank [45:44]

• Frank fears the trick is a “schoolyard got you gay thing.”
• The trio reflects on how much they loathe these “gotcha” logic puzzles ([46:59]):

  "If I live the rest of my life and you asked me to do one of those things or eat a spoon of fucking mustard, I think I found something I hate more than mustard."
  — Frank [47:31]

7. Sentimentality, Hoarding & the Relics of Life

• Extended debate on keeping old clothes and “relics” ([75:02]–[87:12]).
• Frank admits to storing childhood items, even boxers and damaged shirts, for sentimental reasons; he sees these objects as anchors for storytelling:

  “To me, these relics, these items that I hold onto allow me to kind of bring myself back to those moments, back to those memories.”
  — Frank [82:41]

• Joey contrasts that attitude, saying he only saves what “really moves” him; otherwise, he’s quick to donate or discard.
• The conversation touches on Toy Story 3 as a pivotal moment for Frank’s hoarding ([86:32]).

8. Childhood, Lunch Money, and Growing Up

• The guys look back on school lunch money systems, class differences (free lunch), and the oddity of giving cash to young children ([51:00]).
• Debate over pocket change and the classic “give me your lunch money” bully trope ([50:08]).
• Nostalgic references to school pizza and pretzel days.

9. Raccoons, Rabies, and Street Fears

• Frank shares his ongoing garbage feud with a local raccoon ([58:29]) and details about rabies vaccines.
• Joey recalls childhood fears of syringes found on the street and irrational cop paranoia ([64:31]):

  "I like ran...like it was going to grow legs and chase me."
  — Frank [64:36]

• Keith’s story: ditching a sandwich to evade police ([65:26]).

10. Martial Arts hypotheticals

• Joking about who among their circle could beat each other in a fight ([67:09]).
• Predicting that their friend Josh, a Muay Thai practitioner, would destroy them both in a 2-on-1 bout:

  "Josh would kill me, revive me, and then kill me again."
  — Frank [67:14]

• Debate over dirty fighting; Ant proudly claims he’d “go for balls” if outnumbered ([70:21]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Banter about musical age:

  "Your listening age being 83 is fucking crazy."
  — Joey [11:50]

• On club culture:

  “You said Patron. Remember when you thought Patron was like the bro, like best, most expensive thing in the world.”
  — Joey [24:57]

• On Sentimental Hoarding:

  “If those threads could talk, they’d tell the story of my life.”
  — Frank [75:34]

• When Frank finally cracks during Johnny Whoop:

  "Guys, I'm gonna fucking flip this table, I swear to God."
  — Frank [45:44]

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Highlighted Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------------| | 02:15 | Jay-Z’s “Yankee hat” and era discussion | | 04:09 | Wikipedia/A.I. misinformation spiral | | 06:42 | Spotify Wrapped: First reveals/listening age jokes | | 13:03 | Frank’s Apple Music stats—Billy Joel, Hamilton | | 19:29 | Discussion of Wicked and moviegoing habits | | 24:41 | First club drinks and old school liquor trends | | 39:16 | "Johnny Whoop" TikTok bar trick frustration | | 75:02 | Deep-dive: Sentimental hoarding of old shirts, shoes | | 82:41 | Frank’s philosophy on memory and physical objects | | 86:32 | How Toy Story 3 traumatized/reinforced Frank’s hoarding | | 64:31 | Street syringes and irrational childhood fears | | 67:09 | Martial arts & who could beat whom among friends |

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The Basement Yard Energy

The episode retains the distinctive Basement Yard blend of sarcasm, heartfelt nostalgia, and rapid-fire, often tangential humor. The hosts are self-effacing, quick to call out each other’s quirks, with affectionate jabs about hats, musical taste, and childhood oddities. There’s an underlying warmth in their ability to drift from “Spotify Wrapped” to musings on parenthood, school lunches, or why some guys can’t let go of size medium shirts from a decade ago.

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For Those Who Haven't Listened:
This episode is an extended audio group therapy for aging millennials—equal parts musical confessional, memory lane detour, and comedy showcase. The hosts’ willingness to roast each other and go deep on even the silliest of topics keeps things lively and hilariously unpredictable.

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End Note:
The boys never take themselves too seriously, whether discussing Spotify algorithms, the power of memorabilia, or viral TikTok bar tricks designed to enrage. The signature Basement Yard combination—heart, wit, and brotherly antagonism—makes this episode a microcosm of their friendship and the show as a whole.

Transcript

[Frank Alvarez]

Marshall's buyers are hustling hard to get amazing new gifts into stores right up to the last minute. Like a designer perfume for that friend who never RSVP'd wishlist topping toys for her kids who came too. Belgian chocolates for the neighbor.

[Joey]

A cozy scarf for your boss.

[Frank Alvarez]

And a wool jacket for your husband.

[Joey]

That you definitely did not.

[Frank Alvarez]

Almost forget. Marshalls, we get the deals, you get the good stuff. Even at the last minute, find a Marshall's near you. Welcome back to the base.

[Joey]

Welcome back to the basement yard. There he is. There I am. What are you doing?

[Frank Alvarez]

Do I do I do this? Is this the cool.

[Joey]

What is that hat?

[Frank Alvarez]

The New Era logo?

[Joey]

You got a hat of a hat? Company hat.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah. Yes, I did.

[Joey]

Team hat.

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean, to be honest, it was free. They sent it to me, so. But I do like it also. It's like a British one. I was.

[Joey]

I thought it was like, New England for a second.

[Frank Alvarez]

It's like, because the British.

[Joey]

British.

[Frank Alvarez]

The hat. I'm not even really that quite sure. Shetland.

[Joey]

What's that?

[Frank Alvarez]

Was that a curse?

[Joey]

It sounded like a slur.

[Frank Alvarez]

It sounds for someone. You from Shetland? Yeah. You croc? I don't know. I, I, I. I'm still learning. And then it says moon, so this could be from many places. Yeah, but it does say woven in England, so that's cool. I like it. It's gold.

[Joey]

Don't look at me. I'm not asking you about your hat. I know what it is.

[Ant]

I didn't say anything.

[Frank Alvarez]

I didn't say anything. How many. Can I ask? How many Yankee hats in different colors do you have?

[Joey]

Four.

[Frank Alvarez]

What are the colors?

[Joey]

So brown, brown, black, blue. And I have a beige one.

[Frank Alvarez]

Wow, that's a good. That's. I mean, just commit now and make the only hat that you wear.

[Joey]

I mean, it's, It's a. It's. I think the best hat.

[Frank Alvarez]

I agree.

[Joey]

You're from there, so you, you know, you got to take advantage when you can.

[Frank Alvarez]

I remember when. Remember the song Empire State of Mind? Jay Z, Alicia Keys.

[Joey]

Why did you say her name like that? Alicia Keys.

[Frank Alvarez]

Alicia.

[Joey]

Alicia. Alicia.

[Frank Alvarez]

Okay, sorry. Word. The word police are out today.

[Joey]

Alicia.

[Frank Alvarez]

That's where the syntax. Grammar Police are out today. I forgot about that.

[Ant]

Mm.

[Frank Alvarez]

But in the song, he says, like, I made a Yankee hat more famous than a Yankee can.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

When that song came out. First of all, that song came out when the Yankees won the World Series. Impeccable timing.

[Joey]

Do you think that's true?

[Frank Alvarez]

No. And when that song came out as a 17 year old. I would actively, during that part of the song, I'd say like, no, he didn't.

[Joey]

You would do that. He would boycott and probably just be.

[Frank Alvarez]

Like, I made a.

[Joey]

Yeah, well come.

[Frank Alvarez]

Back in and like change the lyrics up myself. Yeah, you know, I. I just. I don't agree with that. I think that there was decades of Yankees greats before maybe he did bring.

[Joey]

It to like hip hop and like the culture of wearing.

[Frank Alvarez]

Did he have that hat on the COVID of an album? Was that like, is that a Yankee hat or is it just the Black album? Yeah, it's not an all black hat.

[Joey]

I don't think that he's worn a hat that isn't a Yankee hat. So it could be back then.

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean, I would hope that he commits.

[Joey]

I know that he's like, the black albums like him. It's probably a Yankee hat. I don't remember.

[Frank Alvarez]

I don't remember a great album. That was the last album from Jay Z that I had.

[Joey]

The Black album. Yeah, it's a good one.

[Frank Alvarez]

Oh, wait, was the Blueprint after that the Blueprint three?

[Joey]

Yeah. I can't remember the.

[Frank Alvarez]

Remember dates of albums, Joey.

[Ant]

I can't.

[Joey]

My dates are so.

[Frank Alvarez]

We're bad. We're bad.

[Joey]

I can't have dates.

[Frank Alvarez]

Our rap correspondent.

[Joey]

I can't.

[Frank Alvarez]

You need to know this.

[Joey]

I don't know dates. I don't know anything.

[Frank Alvarez]

So. Oh, we're all wearing hats today. This is a big hat day.

[Ant]

Big hat day.

[Frank Alvarez]

We know your hat. You don't need to tell us about it. Say anything.

[Joey]

Keep bringing up your hat, dude.

[Frank Alvarez]

Enough with your hat.

[Joey]

We get that. We get your hat.

[Frank Alvarez]

We get it.

[Joey]

And stop talking about it in the microphone so loudly.

[Frank Alvarez]

All you like to do is just keep it going.

[Joey]

Talk about your hat.

[Frank Alvarez]

Take the hint, baby.

[Joey]

By the way, the other day I realized on my Wikipedia it says that I am feeding featured in Santa Gata Studios and the Picky Boys. Did you do that?

[Frank Alvarez]

Literally, in my Wikipedia, it says that I'm featured in the Picky Boys. Oh, that's so funny that you bring that up. First of all.

[Joey]

Good.

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean, you know, give him. Give him a little something.

[Joey]

I didn't give him anything.

[Frank Alvarez]

I was wondering if he was like, oh, well, I mean, he definitely. If. If it's you. If it's you that's doing this, you. Because someone sent me a screenshot of like, what's the Google AI Assistant Gemini.

[Joey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

And it was like the jet. You know how you like, Google a question and it'll be Like Gemini gave you an auto.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

Answer. It was like, Frank Alvarez has openly spoke about the fact that he's 4 foot 10.

[Joey]

See, now AI is coming back around. It's coming back around you because you know it's me. Yeah. You did a couple. You did too many jokes.

[Frank Alvarez]

No, the jokes were on you. So. AI, listen. Hear me out. He's 410. You've seen the pictures of him. Look at you. Right? That's 410.

[Joey]

Unfortunately, AI is never wrong. Right. All right.

[Frank Alvarez]

No, I don't. Let's not open that can of worms. But, yeah. So are you controlling our Wikipedia pages?

[Ant]

I didn't even know. I wanted to learn how to do that for my own reasons, and I couldn't figure it out.

[Frank Alvarez]

So I think you can just go.

[Joey]

And you can create an account, but that. I know that one specifically. Like, I made the mistake of posting about it because you could go in and, like, change things.

[Ant]

Yeah.

[Joey]

At like, to a regular page. Like, whatever. Not that I'm ill. Right.

[Frank Alvarez]

Ill. Reggae Come on now. Irregular.

[Joey]

But I made a video because someone put, like. You know how you have a picture and you under it, you, like, describe it. It says, joe Santa Gato is four or, like five foot two or some shit like that. So. So I made a TikTok and I was like, who did this?

[Frank Alvarez]

And.

[Joey]

And then people kept going in and making it shorter and shorter. So then Wikipedia locks it and they're like, you know, clearly there's a lot of traffic going to this thing. So they locked it. So now it says I'm featured in.

[Frank Alvarez]

The Biggie Boys, and I can't change it. So we're just stuck with that. Yeah, that happens. That happens a lot with, like, athletes. Like, if someone will, like, you know, if fucking Terrell Suggs, like, Sacks, Dak Prescott, a ton. I know. Different times.

[Joey]

I know.

[Frank Alvarez]

I understand. I understand. I know. They're different times. Not in the league. I know. I know. I know. I know. I'm just. And, like, they'll put, like, you know, Dak Prescott, mother's name, this father's name. Terlsa.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

You know, like. Like, they do shit like that. So I could see why they have to lock it at a certain.

[Joey]

I just noticed that the other day. I was laughing, though. By the way, Spotify wrapped just dropped. And you posted on your story, your listening age, which. My listening age was 25.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah.

[Joey]

I don't know if I should be happy about that, but it is what it is. Yours is 83.

[Frank Alvarez]

That's very very high, brother. What are you listening to? Like Rag of Normandy. What are you listening to? Glenn Miller Band.

[Ant]

I haven't seen someone with a higher age.

[Frank Alvarez]

I'm really happy.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

Now that I think about it, I mean, how much higher could you get that's available on music?

[Ant]

I don't know.

[Joey]

You're just listening to the Johnny Carson show on Spotify.

[Frank Alvarez]

Actually. Probably younger. Johnny Carson was popular in the 70s.

[Ant]

So it's a lot of Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra.

[Frank Alvarez]

So then I get that because I love Dean Martin.

[Ant]

Yeah.

[Joey]

What are you doing over there?

[Frank Alvarez]

What was it?

[Joey]

Just chilling with like a cigar and a smoking jacket.

[Ant]

The best time to do it.

[Frank Alvarez]

That used to. Honestly, that used to be my playlist. When I would write papers in college and grad school is. It was all Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin because there's something about their voice is just like, get it on the.

[Joey]

Paper.

[Frank Alvarez]

Your know.

[Joey]

They'Re like sexually getting.

[Frank Alvarez]

You to write it on. Sexually is not what I said.

[Joey]

Get it on the paper, Frank. And will rub your back for you.

[Frank Alvarez]

No, no, no. Dean Martin had his hands far away.

[Joey]

Oh, Frankie Blue eyes. No. You're writing your paper.

[Frank Alvarez]

No, I used to sit there with a. I remember my mom when I was in grad school. I was 21. Let's make that abundantly clear. Who cares?

[Joey]

Not me.

[Ant]

What did that have to.

[Frank Alvarez]

My mom would got me a crate. Literally a crate of Two Buck Chuck. Do you guys remember Two Buck Chuck?

[Joey]

No.

[Frank Alvarez]

You have a crate of two boat trucks.

[Joey]

It sounds like Crash Banicoot.

[Frank Alvarez]

What is that? Basically it was the like award winning wine from Trader Joe's, but they were $2. It was like this wine won all the awards at the wine party.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

And they're $2 a bottle. So my mom got me like a crate for like 80 bucks. And I would sit there.

[Joey]

Was that. Is it literally. Is that 40. 40 bottles?

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah. And I would sit there.

[Joey]

How would that ever be necessary?

[Frank Alvarez]

I was probably having a bit of a problem at the time. Yes.

[Ant]

And how long did it take you to get through that crate?

[Frank Alvarez]

A semester. Oh, that's not that bad.

[Joey]

All right.

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean, when you're.

[Joey]

Yes, it is.

[Frank Alvarez]

No, it's not. When you're 22 years old and in prime drinking time, that's the amount. 40 bottles of wine in six. Four months.

[Ant]

Four months.

[Frank Alvarez]

Four.

[Joey]

Six months. He didn't go to college.

[Frank Alvarez]

He did, but he went to big Dick college. That's where he went. Did you.

[Ant]

I did a.

[Frank Alvarez]

No, I don't think that's that bad. The last week in August is when it started, and the second week in December is when it finished. So four months, roughly.

[Ant]

You could go through four bottles in a weekend. As a young friend.

[Frank Alvarez]

That's what I'm saying. Like, I was. When I was. Every weekend, though. No, but some weekends are. Some weeks it's like casually with writing a paper. Some it's like three, four bottles in a weekend. Like it all fucking six sevens out. Wow.

[Ant]

Were you just the wine guy then?

[Frank Alvarez]

I was not.

[Joey]

You drinking wine for the whole semester?

[Frank Alvarez]

I was not. I did drink, like, you know, like Natty Lights and Bush Lights and.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

You know, Milwaukee's best. I. I didn't.

[Joey]

Milwaukee, Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

I didn't have, like, high taste, but I would. The point I was getting at is I'd open up a bottle of Two Buck Chuck.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

I'd throw on some Frank Sinatra, you know, Aisles of Capri. You know what I'm saying? Summer wind.

[Joey]

Yeah. I like this kind of music in, like, the Christmas time. Kind of like, that's when it feels like it. Definitely in the winter, but the summer is crazy.

[Frank Alvarez]

I'm in. I'm in the summer. Bad song is called Frank Snapper.

[Joey]

In the Summer to me is bananas.

[Frank Alvarez]

But it's kind of like flowy. Bossa nova. Shirt open, drink in your hand. Like.

[Joey]

What's bossa nova?

[Frank Alvarez]

It's like a style of music.

[Joey]

I'm not familiar.

[Frank Alvarez]

It's. You know what it is, right?

[Ant]

What was it? Boston bossa Nova. Oh, Boston Nova.

[Frank Alvarez]

No, Bossa Nova. Yeah, that just cool. Yeah.

[Joey]

I don't.

[Frank Alvarez]

I don't. I didn't make it. Let's make that very clear. What does it mean? It. But there's something like. Kind of like hanging at the beach, I guess.

[Joey]

I mean, I just don't picture it in that way. I pictured in, like a. You know, pajamas around the fire and it's cold out kind of thing. Like, maybe a little glass of whiskey. That's like, somewhere.

[Ant]

I was. I was about to say. I. I listened to that as well. I think there's an argument that that might be the best song ever made.

[Joey]

Beyond the Sea is the best song ever made.

[Frank Alvarez]

Crazy.

[Joey]

It's a good song, but, like, I.

[Ant]

Think there's an argument for it.

[Frank Alvarez]

I. I don't think that there's an argument.

[Joey]

I mean, you know, somewhere.

[Frank Alvarez]

Whatever. You can have it if you want. I wouldn't put it even in my top 50. Oh, come on, 50, brother. Come on, 50.

[Ant]

It's just. It was just I was thinking that, and then you sung it. I'm like, wow.

[Frank Alvarez]

But that's a great listen to what he's saying. Beyond the sea. Like, it's like an outside song.

[Ant]

Like.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yes. Don't get me wrong, I love Fireside. But like, you know, there's something about like Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, you know, just like a little like outside.

[Joey]

That's kind of wild though, that that's like all you listen to.

[Ant]

Yeah.

[Joey]

Your listening age being 83 is fucking crazy.

[Ant]

I'll be honest that it shocked me.

[Joey]

What was your top song?

[Ant]

My top song was actually Father Figure John Bellion.

[Joey]

That was your top song?

[Ant]

My top song.

[Joey]

Oh, wow.

[Frank Alvarez]

So then how the hell does that bring you to. You must have listened to so much Frank Sinatra. You beat out top song that they were like, listen, that's crazy. That must have been a fluke. He must have passed out nax and listened to John Bellion for five hours.

[Ant]

So my top songs are Father Figure Club, Husband T, Pain, obviously.

[Frank Alvarez]

That. That just came out like a month.

[Ant]

That was playing a lot.

[Frank Alvarez]

What?

[Ant]

And then Valar Valare. Right. Dean Martin.

[Frank Alvarez]

And then beyond the Scene, Valare. Valare Valare, Yeah. I mean, do you spend your time in a delicatessen? Where the fuck are you going? Such an interesting mix of songs. All right, so. All right, so give us your top 10 songs.

[Joey]

It only does five.

[Ant]

What does that mean? It only does fine.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

Oh, okay. Well, I got mine on Apple Music.

[Joey]

Yeah, what was yours?

[Frank Alvarez]

And my top 10 songs, do you have top artists? I do have top artists. So my top artists, it's basically just four artists, but it's just like they're categorized in different ways. So my top artist is Billy Joel.

[Joey]

Uh huh.

[Frank Alvarez]

Big Billy Joel guy. I watched a documentary, crushed it. I've been crushing some Billy Joel.

[Joey]

Okay.

[Frank Alvarez]

Number two, four and five are. Oh yeah. Number two, four and five are all Hamilton related. They're Hamilton.

[Joey]

So anytime there's music going, like happening around you, like, there's an 80% chance it's Hamilton.

[Frank Alvarez]

That's crazy. Well, four out of my 10, so 40% chance.

[Joey]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

And then the other. Oh, Ozzy Osbourne was on there, coming in at number three. R.I.P. ozzy.

[Joey]

You got it. You got to put him, you know, send him out on his.

[Frank Alvarez]

You send him out on his cherry at Riding High. And then the others were all K pop, demon hunters related.

[Joey]

Nice.

[Frank Alvarez]

Because of the kids. Yeah, you got it. I don't hate that music.

[Joey]

Right.

[Frank Alvarez]

But I also don't listen to it in my own time.

[Joey]

Right.

[Frank Alvarez]

You know, but my number, so Wait, your number one song was Father Figure by John Bellion. What was your number one song? Oh, let me guess, let me guess. It's fucking white man with a beard who is vegan.

[Joey]

Wow. And, I mean, the crowd goes wild and we're going to have to call the police. People are rioting.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joey]

No, my top song was olive tree by quinn92.

[Frank Alvarez]

What's wrong with that? No, it's just.

[Joey]

His face is like, morph.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, it's.

[Joey]

It's a song that he dropped this year called Olive Tree.

[Frank Alvarez]

Oh, for someone that hates olives. I know it probably. I know it probably has nothing to do with olives.

[Joey]

I'm not tasting olives while I'm listening to the song.

[Frank Alvarez]

Hear me out.

[Joey]

But that's called synesthesia, buddy. People have that.

[Frank Alvarez]

Sure, but what you're describing. I know what you're saying. I'm just saying, like, imagine if you were listening to Olive Tree with a cup of olives in your hand. That would be kind of nice. And if you were listening to Volare while chowing down on a fucking cannoli or something. My top song. And it's not, I guess it's. I have 561 top total songs that I listen to. My top song was Yakko's World from animation.

[Joey]

I don't even know what that is.

[Ant]

You do.

[Frank Alvarez]

You know where he does all the countries of the world sing it? He. Yakko, one of the Warner brothers from the Animaniacs.

[Joey]

Is that like the little water tower? The little, like, cats or whatever?

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, don't. Please don't do this thing where you're like, what are Animaniacs?

[Joey]

What are they?

[Frank Alvarez]

You know who the f. They are?

[Joey]

It's been 25 years. Like, I don't remember.

[Frank Alvarez]

30.

[Ant]

You know the song I'm saying?

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah. United States, Canada, Mexico, Panama, Haiti, Jamaica, Peru, Republic, Dominican, Cuba, Caribbean, Greenland, El Salvador, too. Come on. I'm not going to do the whole song. I can make that very clear.

[Joey]

Why is it your top? They just list countries.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, because I was trying to learn it for. Why.

[Joey]

For me, just to get. It's every country in the world.

[Frank Alvarez]

Well, it was in 1993 when the song came. When the show came out. I think some of these countries either no longer exist or they are now one country or something. But I set a goal for myself. A little challenge to test my. Test my discipline.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

And I did it.

[Joey]

So what are you going to do in 2026?

[Frank Alvarez]

What's the. What's the big thing for 2016, the sky's the limit. But then my second biggest song is Golden. Duh.

[Joey]

Yeah, it's gotta be.

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean, again, it's with the kids. Mama, I'm coming Home. Ozzy Osbourne. Great song. My shot from Hamilton. And then strategy from the. From Huntricks.

[Joey]

From what?

[Frank Alvarez]

Huntrix.

[Joey]

What's that?

[Frank Alvarez]

K Pop? Demon Hunter.

[Joey]

Okay.

[Frank Alvarez]

I'm trying to think of this.

[Joey]

I haven't really gotten into Kpop. K2 Park. Demon Hunter.

[Frank Alvarez]

I've never gotten into that. If you watch it, you'll be on board. I knowing you, I think you'll really enjoy it.

[Joey]

I'm sure I would. I mean everyone said everyone sings it's praises. I just haven't like, I haven't seen it.

[Frank Alvarez]

I think Joey would be a soda pop. He'd be a saja boy. You know what I'm saying?

[Joey]

Massage. No.

[Frank Alvarez]

Assange boy.

[Joey]

Saja boy. Yeah. I don't know what that means.

[Frank Alvarez]

You'll be happy about this. There is a hip hop song in my top 10.

[Joey]

Yeah, what year?

[Frank Alvarez]

It's the international players anthem. UGK.

[Joey]

That is like the Frank song.

[Frank Alvarez]

That song is.

[Joey]

You love that.

[Frank Alvarez]

That might be one of the greatest hip hop songs of all time.

[Ant]

I'll give you that.

[Frank Alvarez]

I don't know.

[Ant]

Different genres.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, they are different genres.

[Ant]

I feel like your age would have been pretty high if it wasn't for the demon. Certainly the demon hunters really dragging you down.

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean.

[Joey]

Well, he's got this going on. Yeah. You know, so he's probably like really old and really young.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, so he'd probably be 50, so I mean still 30 years old. I mean you can make the argument. Is Hamilton old?

[Joey]

Have you been to a show?

[Frank Alvarez]

That's not a part of the question.

[Ant]

When was. Wasn't it from like it came like.

[Frank Alvarez]

20, 15 years old.

[Ant]

Isn't that from the 1700s?

[Joey]

I would, I would.

[Frank Alvarez]

Hamilton, the person is from the 1700.

[Joey]

I don't think that the people who enjoy Hamilton, an overwhelming majority of them are, are like under 30.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah. I mean I, I would think I would like this to be closer to my actual age. I think, I think if we're looking at it, the Ozzy Osbourne and Billy Joel put me up there.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

But everything else keeps me pretty where I am.

[Joey]

Right. I would say that Hamilton in Broadway for the most part is probably like, you know, like. I'm sure there's younger people that enjoy that. I mean, I enjoy it too, but I do feels like a middle aged type of.

[Frank Alvarez]

I think it Depends on the show. Now, if I'm singing stuff from hello Dolly, I could understand why.

[Joey]

I know what that is.

[Frank Alvarez]

It's a show.

[Joey]

Dolly Parton.

[Frank Alvarez]

Oh, I don't know. I've never seen it. Got it. Oklahoma. Never seen that one either. But I'm. I thought you'd know it. That's an older crowd. Because it's an older show, but I think Hamilton is relatively younger. Maybe you don't think so? Where do you sit with this Barbra Streisand? I'm sorry, one more time.

[Joey]

How is that an answer to his question?

[Ant]

That's the hello Dolly, Barbra Streisand.

[Joey]

Oh, Barbara. Barbara. One of the. Actually, I think she spelled Barbara because Barbara is Barbara. But she's Barbara.

[Ant]

You're right.

[Frank Alvarez]

I think she's Barb. Rah.

[Joey]

Yeah, something like that. But when I saw her name, I was like, that's not how you spell Barbara. But she spells it Barbara.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah.

[Joey]

Which is like, to me, the correct way.

[Ant]

But musicals. I like musicals.

[Frank Alvarez]

What's your favorite musical?

[Ant]

Wicked, probably. I've seen it four times.

[Joey]

I just saw Wicked yesterday.

[Frank Alvarez]

Oh, that's right. You went to the movies.

[Joey]

Went to Alamo Drafthouse.

[Frank Alvarez]

How was the movie theater going? Experience.

[Joey]

It was cool. I mean, they, you know, I had a beer.

[Ant]

Alamo Drafthouse doesn't count as a movie theater.

[Joey]

Why? Why? I mean, you're sitting there in a theater watching a movie.

[Frank Alvarez]

If anything, they count more than movie, like, as a movie theater because they're, like, very into, like, indie films and like, putting. Showcasing stuff that wouldn't otherwise.

[Joey]

Yeah. When I walked in, there was a lot of posters of things I have never seen before in my life. But saw Wicked, I thought it was good. I saw a lot of people online being like, this movie sucks. This is kind of blah, blah, blah. I thought it was. I thought it was good for what it was.

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean, Erivo can sing, dude.

[Joey]

Bro. Cynthia Rivo can sing her ass off also. Ariana Grande can also sing her ass off. And I remember I was watching the movie, started laughing because I had this feeling of like, wow, I'm so happy for her.

[Frank Alvarez]

Who's this for?

[Joey]

Ariana Grande.

[Frank Alvarez]

That's that parasocial relationship.

[Joey]

Well, there's been, like, interviews of her, like when she was younger, being like, oh, like, all she's wanted to do was like, do Wicked. And then she ends up doing it. She's in the movie and I'm like.

[Frank Alvarez]

This is a big moment.

[Joey]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Frank Alvarez]

In this thing.

[Joey]

Like, you know, like Wicked and the wizard of Oz is like, a giant cultural thing. So for her to actually be in the movie, I was like, I'm so happy for her.

[Frank Alvarez]

And then I was like, yeah, that is a bit. That is. But it was good. I mean, like, she. After I saw. Because I haven't seen the second one yet. After I saw the first one, I was like, yo. She really is, like, just has natural talent for, like, seemingly anything. She does.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

I guess the only two things I've seen her do are sing and act, so. Those are big ones. Those are very big ones. She's also great on snl and, like, her appearances on snl, she's really, really good.

[Joey]

You know, but it was good. I liked it. I thought it was cool for good. Dude, that song is a slapper.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, I. I'll probably. Not that I'm, like, boycotting it, but, like, I don't know if the second part of Wicked, I heard that it's not as strong as the first part.

[Joey]

I honestly don't see that.

[Frank Alvarez]

There's some other stuff coming out.

[Joey]

You should.

[Frank Alvarez]

Joey, you should go to the movies once a month and you should let me pick what you go see.

[Joey]

Why can't I live my life?

[Frank Alvarez]

Because that's not how this works. You can go to the movies. You go, okay, but let me pick your movie.

[Joey]

But I don't even enjoy movies in the same way that you.

[Frank Alvarez]

I think you should go back this weekend and go see Five Nights at Freddy's.

[Joey]

Oh, I'm not. I have no interest in.

[Frank Alvarez]

See, why not? You're not a FNAF guy.

[Joey]

No, I. I mean, I played the game. That's the game. They made a movie.

[Ant]

Now, he did play.

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean, two movies.

[Joey]

Spoiler. The fucking bears kill.

[Frank Alvarez]

Well, there's a bear, there's a fox, there's a cupcake. There's.

[Joey]

They all kill.

[Frank Alvarez]

There's. What else is there? There's an alligator.

[Ant]

Chicken.

[Frank Alvarez]

Chicken. Well, I thought I said duck. I guess chica is technically a chicken.

[Ant]

It could be a duck.

[Frank Alvarez]

Could be. Yeah. I'm not really that sure.

[Joey]

I'm not really into movies like that.

[Ant]

Scary ones.

[Joey]

No, just in general. Like, I mean, I. I'm more into TV shows than I am movies.

[Frank Alvarez]

Was that the first time you've had an alcoholic drink at a movie theater?

[Joey]

Yeah, I think so. When else am I gonna drink at a movie theater?

[Ant]

Never mind.

[Joey]

Oh, you sneak it in.

[Frank Alvarez]

Oh, big bad guy. Yeah, like the big bad guy. Instead of going and buying a 12 drink, you have to sneak in and be a criminal.

[Ant]

No, you still Buy that as well.

[Frank Alvarez]

Oh, so you're doing double take.

[Ant]

No, you just.

[Joey]

I, no, I've never had an alcoholic drink at a thing. I just had a beer because I was like, you know what? They had it. I was like, I'm not going to order nothing. We're at Alamo Drafthouse. This is what you come for.

[Frank Alvarez]

Here's what, here's. The only way I would bring a drink into a movie theater is if it could be like the good old days of like high school when you just put vodka in a coke bottle.

[Joey]

That's when you would do it. That's disgusting.

[Frank Alvarez]

You know what I'm saying? Like, there's something about, like not knowing how to mix drinks that makes it taste better. Maybe it's just the nostalgia part of.

[Joey]

Me, but like, I think it's. It's been disgusting. I also never did that. Like, I never put vodka in a water bottle and just like drank a little bit of just raw vodka.

[Frank Alvarez]

Dude.

[Joey]

What?

[Frank Alvarez]

Gross. The lines waiting to get into Remy Teen night. That's what everyone did. They passed around a Poland Spring bottle filled with all the whey alcohol.

[Joey]

I never did that.

[Frank Alvarez]

Dude.

[Joey]

I. I mean, we would go to clubs, but I would just get hammered at the, like the Pre. And then I'd be good. I'd be online freezing and kind of like, I'm warm cuz my heart rate's 120.

[Frank Alvarez]

I'm not saying I did, but if I had a fake id, I would have used it in those places. Yeah, I would have let that.

[Joey]

What, at the club?

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah.

[Joey]

I've never ordered a drink at a club. Like when. At that time when we were clubbing. Like, I never. I never did that.

[Frank Alvarez]

Oh, I remember the first drink I ever ordered at a club.

[Joey]

What was it?

[Frank Alvarez]

It. I thought I was a genius, by the way.

[Joey]

This should be good.

[Frank Alvarez]

This is when this drink in particular was huge. Yeah, I went to. I wasn't DNA at the time. It was Studio 34.

[Joey]

Oh, okay.

[Frank Alvarez]

And it was Tequila, Patron, Silver Sprite, no ice fill to the top.

[Joey]

That's what you said. And you were probably 17.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah.

[Joey]

You said Patron. Remember when you thought Patron was like the bro, like best, most expensive thing in the world.

[Frank Alvarez]

Blow your mind. Do you remember Nuvo?

[Joey]

No, look up Nouveau.

[Frank Alvarez]

It was like the pink bottle. It was like after, like there was like a falling out with crystal. Because remember, crystal was like the liquor that people talked about and then they were like nuva.

[Joey]

Oh, do you remember this? What's the other one? Hypnotic.

[Frank Alvarez]

Hypnotic. Well, hypnotic is Disgusting.

[Joey]

It was never as big as Nouveau 15 alcohol.

[Frank Alvarez]

It was. It was basically like, that's wine, baby.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

It was like rose in a bottle.

[Ant]

This looks like shampoo.

[Joey]

Yeah, it does. Yo.

[Frank Alvarez]

Honestly, it looks delicious when it's, like, bright colors like that.

[Joey]

I want it.

[Frank Alvarez]

I'm in.

[Joey]

I want it.

[Ant]

What would you do with this?

[Frank Alvarez]

I wouldn't get it, but I'm saying, like, there was, like. When we were growing up, there was always, like, the cool alcohol.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

And it was always like, first it was crystal, then it was patron.

[Joey]

Do you know hypnotic?

[Ant]

I do. It looks very cool.

[Joey]

Yeah, it does.

[Frank Alvarez]

Hypnotic looks cool. Remember Hypnotic in Hennessy Incredible Hulk?

[Joey]

Of course.

[Frank Alvarez]

You know, but yeah. I thought I was the coolest kid in the world.

[Joey]

Meanwhile, I was over there being like, let me get a Red Bull Vodka. And I was just like, I'm sorry.

[Frank Alvarez]

I don't mean to trigger you, but hypnotic Red Bull and vodka. And this is not a dis to Red Bull or a diss to Mr. Vodka. Yeah. Not a good combination.

[Ant]

Oh.

[Joey]

I mean, I think that it gets the job done. Might be the best if you're exhausted and you get in there and you get. And you're like, I still want to go, but I'm really struggling. You do one. You're sad.

[Frank Alvarez]

Just do coke, dude.

[Joey]

Wrong. Just.

[Frank Alvarez]

Just do coke. I also go into the club tired. I mean, don't do drugs. But, like, that's literally the opposite.

[Joey]

I also don't think I even have it in me to be able to do that.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, neither do I. Hence why I haven't.

[Joey]

I mean, I've seen you snort Coca Cola. Okay. You can get stuff up.

[Frank Alvarez]

There is my course. I get. I'm saying, like, there's more to life than.

[Joey]

When I started saying that.

[Frank Alvarez]

Your eyes lit up. Like, what is he gonna say? I am, to be very clear. Yeah. I have never done any drug.

[Joey]

Right. We are.

[Frank Alvarez]

And that's you being fucking off.

[Joey]

I'm being okay. However, right?

[Frank Alvarez]

If someone were to come to me and be like, I need to wake up, so I'm gonna have a Red Bull and vodka, I'd be like, dude, just do the. Just do drugs.

[Joey]

But I don't do drugs either.

[Frank Alvarez]

I know.

[Joey]

So I'm doing the next best thing.

[Frank Alvarez]

I just. A Red Bull and vodka, to me, is so, like. I just. I just think, like, there's a very specific clientele that has it.

[Joey]

What does that mean?

[Frank Alvarez]

Psychopaths.

[Joey]

I mean, I've done it, and it works, and you have it. That doesn't help me but, but you know, it gets, it gets the job done.

[Frank Alvarez]

But yeah, I thought it was a genius.

[Joey]

What was it again?

[Frank Alvarez]

It was Patron. Silver Sprite to the top, no ice. Because I was like, oh, I'm basically getting a cup of Patron. At least a half cup of Patron.

[Joey]

You told them to fill it to the top?

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah.

[Joey]

Are you even allowed to say.

[Frank Alvarez]

And you're right, it was warm, brother. It was warm and gross.

[Joey]

Oh yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

Why?

[Joey]

No, I. Oh, because you want it all. Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

I thought I was getting more alcohol.

[Joey]

Okay, gotcha.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, this was before, like pull it.

[Joey]

Up to the top. That means that they put the same amount of alcohol and just filled it with sp.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean it was a pretty shitty club that let in kids underage all the time. Yeah. So like they might have.

[Joey]

I don't even. I still to this day kind of have a difficult time with like, what drink do I order at a place that doesn't have a menu? Like if you're going to get a cocktail. Cuz I'm always just like margarita. But like I, I don't want that all the time because it's like so Bernie, you know, like the lime is so like, gives you a burn.

[Frank Alvarez]

I was like, bernie, who's burning?

[Joey]

No, I just meant like, you know what I mean? It's so like sometimes it's too crazy.

[Frank Alvarez]

Next you should have like, like a Rolodex of like drinks you want to try that are like standard drinks. I'm not saying go in there and be like, let me get a, you know, a green screen, double carpet.

[Joey]

Well, I. There was one time that I went to a. This was when I was probably 24 years old and I wasn't really into cocktails at this time. And I went to this restaurant that when I walked in, it seemed pretty fancy and I guess we were there a little early. And they were like, you can go to the bar and order a drink and just wait for your table. I was like, all right, cool. So I go to the bar, but I'm like looking around and everyone's like drinking out of martini glasses. But I don't like martinis and you know, kind of this thing. And I'm like, I don't know what's. Because the only drink that I knew was a Jack and Coke. And I was like, I can't order that here.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, it's not the right place.

[Joey]

It's not like, I just, I just can't be like, yo, Jack and Coke, do it up. Like, yeah, it doesn't.

[Frank Alvarez]

It Doesn't. It doesn't work. A Jack and Coke. Like, when you're young, you're like, yo, that's like a grown drink. And then you get grown and you're like, this is for children.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

It was not. I'm with you. There is. I do believe there's a certain etiquette behind getting certain drinks. Like, you can't get a Jack and Coke. Like, there's a nice restaurant, there's like a.

[Joey]

There's like an in between too. Because there's places that, like, I would order a cocktail, but I wouldn't order because, like, there's a cocktail called the Last Word that I really like, but I wouldn't order that at every place. You would order that at a cocktail place? You know what I mean?

[Frank Alvarez]

I. I mean, I think that there are certain cocktails that are like, classic that everyone should know how to make that you can order wherever you go.

[Joey]

Yeah, I guess. I don't know.

[Frank Alvarez]

Like, I don't think it speaks about the. Like the cocktail. It speaks more about the person. Like, if they make it. Well, it's less about the cock, it's less about the. More about the tail. The tail.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

You know what I'm saying? So, like, you could get a. A Manhattan or you could get a, you know, Old fashioned Manhattan.

[Joey]

Yeah, I'll be right with this kid. His listening age. They're ordering Manhattans.

[Frank Alvarez]

Manhattans are delicious. Joey. No, Old Fashions. Delish.

[Joey]

I like Old Fashions. Manhattan's place.

[Frank Alvarez]

Uncle. Uncle Jack's. Is that still there in Astoria? No, I haven't been over in that way. Did you see the Pomeroy was just like, come on in.

[Joey]

Did they.

[Frank Alvarez]

Oh, say that they posted our clip and they were just like, we got a cold one. Yeah, yeah, Very cool.

[Joey]

I haven't been to the Pomeroy in a minute. Oh, fuck.

[Frank Alvarez]

But like, they used to do an Old Fashioned, but they would smoke. Yeah, they would smoke the glass. So it was like a smoky Old Fashioned. If you smoke my drink, I'm telling.

[Joey]

You right now, it'll smoke your cock. No, there was a place on Ditmar's that's not there anymore, but on their menu. I went there one time, it was like a new restaurant at the time and they had a bone marrow Old Fashioned.

[Frank Alvarez]

Like, come on.

[Joey]

What?

[Frank Alvarez]

That's getting a little out there.

[Joey]

The bone was like cold. So it acted as kind of like the ice cube and they put that shit in the cup and then they did the whole thing. I was like, it's pretty Cool.

[Frank Alvarez]

I'm not. When it. When it's like, food like that. Like, if they had like a chicken wing spritzer, you would get that.

[Joey]

I mean, one of. I had a great drink and it was a shishito pepper margarita.

[Frank Alvarez]

Peppers are different. Peppers are different. That's a vegetable. I'm talking, like, bone marrow is like.

[Joey]

It's a meat adjacent.

[Frank Alvarez]

It's meat adjacent.

[Joey]

It's a. It's a ligament.

[Frank Alvarez]

Do they have, like, buffalo chicken alcohol?

[Joey]

I pray every day that they don't. That sounds disgusting.

[Frank Alvarez]

It sounds like something, you guys.

[Ant]

I don't want to look it up because I'll buy it.

[Joey]

Yeah, it does sound like something you would, you know, drink and throw up if they did.

[Frank Alvarez]

Oh, hear me out.

[Joey]

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[Frank Alvarez]

I love Frank's Red Hot. Okay, what if they. Because everyone's looking like we're finally coming back around. Joey, I don't know if you know this. Back in the day, companies used to be a lot more playful with their branding.

[Joey]

It's. It's becoming like, you just say the same things. Hear me out.

[Frank Alvarez]

What if.

[Joey]

Insert company more playful. Here's my horrible idea.

[Frank Alvarez]

What if as we're coming back around to that place where companies are becoming more playful, Frank's Red Hot partners with a vodka company and they make a Buffalo flavored vodka. And the challenge, because you love alcohol challenges. You love it. You love it.

[Ant]

I don't.

[Frank Alvarez]

If the challenge is a Buffalo flavored vodka mixed with a chaser of blue cheese, oh, my God.

[Joey]

That probably would offset the burn.

[Frank Alvarez]

That's what I'm saying. This could be a billion dollar idea.

[Joey]

Now we're getting ahead of ourselves.

[Frank Alvarez]

This could be an absolute Billy bro. A viral trend.

[Joey]

I mean, I'm pretty sure there is spicy. There is spicy.

[Frank Alvarez]

Like, I know there's spicy alcohol. I've had spicy alcohol.

[Ant]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

I'm saying, though, like, there's an easy way to stop this, Seeing if it exists. Oh, perfect. They can partner with Buffalo Trace.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

So Frank's Red Hot partners with Buffalo Trace. They make the Buffalo. That doesn't exist, dude.

[Joey]

It's, it's fine, dude.

[Frank Alvarez]

No, no, they, it doesn't exist.

[Joey]

You know what? Instead of all of these ideas, instead, why doesn't everyone who's listening just have a nice happy Thursday? Happy Thursday.

[Frank Alvarez]

That's a really good point.

[Joey]

Happy Thursday, guys. These are. And yes, we are getting into the sponsors right now, but Happy Thursday. Happy Thursday. These are great. Okay, these are spiked refreshers, okay, because they're spikes. You got to be 21. There's some alcohol in here. How much? 4.4%. That's a good little middle ground right there. But they have 4.4 alcohol and they're bubble free. So it doesn't get you, you know, anything too crazy going on in here. It doesn't get you all bloated and it tastes really good.

[Frank Alvarez]

It's refreshing.

[Joey]

But they're delicious. They go down easy. Obviously you got to be 21 to have it, but you know, this holiday season, if you're going over your friend's house or you're going over, you know, for a family party, BYOB situation, how about you bring a pack of that Happy Thursday and be like, here, try this, grandma. I bet you didn't have this back in your day, you know what I mean? Give her some bubble free stuff, get her off the bubbles, okay? She can't handle it at her age. They have strawberry, pineapple, star fruit, raspberry, dragon fruit, mango, passion fruit. They're delicious. So if you're feeling thirsty this holiday season, have a happy Thursday. Visit drinkhappy Thursday.com basement okay, that is drinkhappy Thursday.com basement celebrate responsibly non carbonated, naturally flavored with other natural flavors. 21 + contains alcohol. Okay? So go get yourself a happy Thursday and enjoy that. We also have fitbod. Fitbod is a, is a company that's going to help you create a personalized workout routine based on your goals, fitness level and your available equipment. A lot of people are, you know, they're all over the map as far as that goes. They don't have a lot of experience, they don't have access to an actual gym. And their fitness goals are obviously very different. So everyone's fitness goals are very different. So based on the ones that you want, you will create a personalized workout routine for that. And even if you don't have any experience, that's okay because this also could be a learning experience for you as well. They have over a thousand demonstration videos, so they're going to walk you through how to do all of the movements so that you can be in good shape and doing these things correctly and safely. They also track your muscle recovery so you can avoid burnout and keep up, you know, your momentum. So right now you can level up your workouts. Join Fitbod today and get your personalized workout plan. That is Fitbod. You get 25% off your subscription or try the app for free for seven days at fitbod Me Basement. Okay, that is F I T B O D me Basement. So go to fitbod Me Basement to get started today.

[Frank Alvarez]

And you know what? Whether you're drinking a happy Thursday or you're using FitBody, I wouldn't recommend those two things at the same time. But you know what? I would recommend pairing either of those with Basement yard. Patreon folks, go to patreon.com the basement yard and take a look, gander around, take a peek underneath the skirt of our studio, and you'll find that there's more of the basement yard there. Okay? Then you could find that this first tier, you sign up for that first tier, you get these weekly episodes seven whole days in advance ahead of schedule. Okay, that's kind of nice because a lot of people like to post clips ahead of schedule and then you could be in it on the joke. You know exactly what we're talking about about that second tier. Well, that's where you get exclusive episodes every single Friday. So you'll get more of us twice a week. Who doesn't like that, huh? So go check it out. Patreon.com the basement yard and if you want to sign up, you can also give this as a gift during the holiday season. If you so choose to play around and use URL, go to patreon.com the basement yard. Use it in a web browser. You know, Encarta, ms, Msn, I don't know, whatever one you want to use, go check it out. And you will be able to save yourself a couple bucks if you use the smart app and you sign up. That way, they're going to ask for a couple extra bucks because they got to pay their technology overlords. So go to a web browser, type in patreon.com thebasementyard and check out if you want to join us. We thank you guys for helping us continue to break records. Move in the right direction, man. That's what I'm talking about. Move that way. I don't want to do the hand gesture because it's close. So go check it out. Patreon.com the Basementyard thank you. What Were we talking about right before we did this? Oh, my incredible billion dollar idea. You don't think that has any merit?

[Joey]

A buffalo.

[Frank Alvarez]

A Buffalo flavored alcohol.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

Paired with a shot of blue cheese.

[Joey]

I mean, it's gimmicky. I think that it could catch on for that.

[Frank Alvarez]

But gimmicks make.

[Joey]

It's not billions now.

[Frank Alvarez]

Gimmicks make money.

[Joey]

Not all of them.

[Ant]

Quick money, maybe. Did you see the, the trend on TikTok? The Johnny Whoop thing? Did you see that or no?

[Joey]

Johnny Whoop.

[Ant]

Yeah, Johnny Woop. It kind of looks like this, like. Johnny Whoop. Johnny Whoop.

[Frank Alvarez]

Oh yeah.

[Ant]

Have you seen that?

[Joey]

No, but I know it.

[Ant]

You know it?

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, I.

[Joey]

But like it's on TikTok now.

[Ant]

Yeah.

[Joey]

I remember that from like our childhood. Like my sister used to. Johnny Whoop.

[Frank Alvarez]

I've never been whooped by Johnny.

[Ant]

Have you ever done it like you know how to do it?

[Frank Alvarez]

Did you not just hear what exactly I just said?

[Ant]

No, I didn't.

[Frank Alvarez]

I.

[Joey]

That's because you keep talking about your hat.

[Ant]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

Jesus Christ, for one second, put the hat down.

[Ant]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

I've never Johnny whooped you.

[Ant]

Never Johnny whooped.

[Frank Alvarez]

What is it?

[Ant]

So it's like you just gotta do this and you're doing it right.

[Joey]

Should we do it?

[Ant]

Yeah, we're gonna do it.

[Frank Alvarez]

Do what?

[Ant]

So you just gotta do this. I'll do it first, then you do it. That's all you gotta do. Johnny Whoops. Johnny Whoop. Johnny Whoop. Johnny Whoop. Johnny whoop. Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny. And that's it.

[Frank Alvarez]

Something seems suspicious about this.

[Ant]

That's it.

[Joey]

Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny. Yeah. Is that it?

[Ant]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah.

[Ant]

You got it.

[Frank Alvarez]

Okay, I'm going to do it. Something feels off. Johnny Whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny.

[Ant]

No, you didn't do it right.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yes, I did.

[Ant]

No, you didn't. No, you didn't do it right.

[Joey]

You didn't.

[Ant]

Not even close.

[Frank Alvarez]

Does it matter? Do I have to start at the pinky?

[Ant]

Well, that would be helpful. Yeah.

[Joey]

I mean, that's.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah. Johnny whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny.

[Ant]

No, no.

[Frank Alvarez]

You guys are fucking with me.

[Ant]

I, I. You want to do it?

[Frank Alvarez]

No. No.

[Ant]

Wait.

[Frank Alvarez]

What?

[Ant]

Show them again.

[Joey]

Johnny whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny whoop Johnny, Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny.

[Frank Alvarez]

How did he do anything different than.

[Ant]

I know. He got it right.

[Frank Alvarez]

This. No, this is one of these fucking. You're just fucking with me for the sake of it.

[Joey]

No. Yeah.

[Ant]

You just got to listen.

[Frank Alvarez]

Right?

[Ant]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

To what?

[Joey]

Well, don't. Not only listen, but also.

[Ant]

Yeah. Also see, you know, See? Yeah. All right. Go.

[Frank Alvarez]

Johnny Whoop.

[Joey]

Johnny.

[Frank Alvarez]

Well, that's. At this point, I did it twice the exact way that you both did it.

[Ant]

It was not the.

[Frank Alvarez]

Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny.

[Ant]

No.

[Frank Alvarez]

All right, so tell me. Tell me what the fuck I'm doing wrong because this is starting to piss me off.

[Ant]

You got it. One more time. I'll do it.

[Frank Alvarez]

No, no, no, no. Don't. Don't show me again. I'm not an idiot. And enough for your hat.

[Joey]

It does help if you wash them.

[Ant]

All right. Johnny.

[Joey]

Woo.

[Ant]

Nope. Sorry, I messed that up.

[Frank Alvarez]

See, I messed it up.

[Ant]

Johnny Whoop Johnny, Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny, Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny.

[Frank Alvarez]

You added an extra whoop in there.

[Joey]

He's.

[Frank Alvarez]

Now he's with me.

[Joey]

Yeah, he did too many whoops.

[Ant]

I tried to go fast, but there's too many whoops. That wasn't the important part. The whoops aren't even important.

[Frank Alvarez]

Johnny Whoop Johnny, Whoop Johnny, Whoop Johnny, Whoop Johnny, Whoop Johnny, Whoop Johnny, Whoop Johnny, Whoop Johnny. What? Johnny.

[Joey]

Well, you know that's wrong.

[Frank Alvarez]

I don't know. Maybe added an extra syllable, but I think that was good.

[Joey]

I mean, no. Unfortunately, no.

[Frank Alvarez]

So if you do it again, I swear to God, I'm launching this. Happy Thursday.

[Ant]

I'm just saying. So you got to go through it all and back.

[Frank Alvarez]

And then an extra Johnny on the top.

[Ant]

And then. And then that's how you would finish.

[Frank Alvarez]

I'm not. Hold on a sec. What am I doing at the end.

[Ant]

There you go, through them all.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah.

[Ant]

Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop Johnny Whoop. And you're going back. And then you land on Johnny and that's how you would finish.

[Frank Alvarez]

So. So say so. So.

[Joey]

Hold on. Yeah.

[Ant]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

No.

[Joey]

Do it, you bitch.

[Frank Alvarez]

No.

[Joey]

You got it.

[Frank Alvarez]

No. Nice try. What? Nice try. I see what you're doing.

[Joey]

Oh, I thought you were in and now I think you're out.

[Ant]

I don't think you know it, actually.

[Frank Alvarez]

Oh, wait.

[Joey]

Please do it. What?

[Ant]

You say, you got it.

[Frank Alvarez]

Johnny Whoop.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

Johnny Whoop.

[Ant]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

Johnny Whoop.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

Johnny Whoop.

[Ant]

Yep.

[Frank Alvarez]

Johnny Whoop.

[Ant]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

Johnny Whoop. Johnny Whoop. Johnny Whoop. Johnny. When you guys. I'm not kidding.

[Joey]

When you fit. When you finish.

[Frank Alvarez]

Johnny Whoop.

[Joey]

That's how you finish.

[Frank Alvarez]

I know what you're trying to get me to say, and I'm not buying into this.

[Ant]

What are you talking about, Frankie?

[Frank Alvarez]

All right, I'll play around. You want me to finish on Johnny?

[Joey]

What?

[Frank Alvarez]

No one's asking you to do that.

[Ant]

So when you. When you finish. When you end.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, when I finish. When I finish.

[Joey]

Nothing to do with jizzing Cub.

[Ant]

When you complete this riddle, when you come back and you land on Johnny, this is how you finish. Now. Now.

[Frank Alvarez]

I fucking hate this so much.

[Joey]

Should we just tell him? Sure, I guess so.

[Ant]

Well, he should try one more time, probably.

[Frank Alvarez]

One more time.

[Ant]

Just one more time. Just one more time. All right, so. So you watched, but you watched.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yes.

[Ant]

You watched the whole thing.

[Frank Alvarez]

I watch everything.

[Joey]

How do you finish?

[Frank Alvarez]

Nice try. No, no, no.

[Joey]

I'm trying.

[Frank Alvarez]

How do you complete.

[Joey]

I'm trying to save time.

[Frank Alvarez]

I. I'm not saying it, okay? I. I complete it. It's not about gay. Complete the riddle on Johnny.

[Ant]

Johnny, and then this is how you finish.

[Frank Alvarez]

This is how.

[Joey]

It's not gay.

[Frank Alvarez]

I know. Wait, is it, though?

[Joey]

It isn't gay, I swear. Just do the finished part.

[Frank Alvarez]

Johnny. Whoop Johnny. Whoop Johnny. Whoop Johnny. Whoop Johnny. Whoop Johnny. Whoop Johnny. Whoop Johnny. Whoop Johnny. This is how you finish. Guys, I'm gonna fucking flip this table, I swear to God.

[Joey]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna do the last part so slow. Okay, Johnny. Wait, Is Johnny on top?

[Ant]

Johnny's on top.

[Joey]

Okay. Whoop. Johnny.

[Frank Alvarez]

I fucking did that. Johnny.

[Joey]

Who's this?

[Frank Alvarez]

Whoop.

[Ant]

That's Johnny.

[Joey]

Johnny.

[Frank Alvarez]

Johnny.

[Joey]

Johnny. Frankie.

[Frank Alvarez]

Hey, I'm Johnny. Johnny. You fold your arms. You're gonna fold your arms after. It was his idea.

[Joey]

I knew Johnny Whoopi.

[Frank Alvarez]

Actually, I knew Johnny.

[Joey]

I said, I know Johnny. Whoop. He goes, you think Frank does? I'm like, I don't know.

[Ant]

This is how you finish. We did it every time.

[Joey]

It's true. Should we go to the ads or something? You want to take some time or. Yeah, but big him, small me. Yeah, Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

I hate those things so much. We did that video for Santa Gato Studios, where we did, like, the bar tricks, where it's just like, I'm bringing a pen and I wanted to bash my head through the wall. Not as a bit. Not as, like, let me spruce this up and make this funny. I'm not kidding. If I live the rest of my life and you asked me to do one of those things or eat a spoon of fucking mustard, I think I found something I hate more than mustard.

[Joey]

Wow.

[Ant]

Wow. So that means we got to do more of them.

[Frank Alvarez]

No, No, I won't be doing either of them. Let's make that abundantly clear. That sucks. That is so sucky, Johnny.

[Joey]

Whoop.

[Frank Alvarez]

I did it. Yeah, you, you smug bastard. And whoever the hell made this up.

[Joey]

Well, him mean me, me small.

[Frank Alvarez]

I did also. I did also think it was a gay thing, if I'm being really honest.

[Joey]

Yeah, it wasn't.

[Frank Alvarez]

Like, just like, this is how you finish. And then my response would be like, so I finish on Johnny. And he was like, whoa. That's what I thought. It was one of those schoolyard got you gay things, you know?

[Joey]

Got you gay.

[Frank Alvarez]

That's what I thought. Dead to rights.

[Joey]

Dick. Dick to rights.

[Ant]

Yeah.

[Joey]

Exercise that a little bit too much.

[Ant]

Something I saw.

[Frank Alvarez]

God, I hate those things so much.

[Joey]

I know.

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean, that other one that you did one time where it's just like, whoop, whoop.

[Joey]

Oh, it's like finger stuff.

[Frank Alvarez]

Well, Joe, you have done finger stuff before on camera.

[Joey]

There was like. Yeah, there's. There's one I've seen. There was this one guy that was like, here's how to test your brain. And I would do them and be like, yo, I'm literally. My Is not working correctly.

[Frank Alvarez]

Well, that's why I like to, like, test my discipline and learn Yakko's World from the Animaniacs to really test how disciplined I am.

[Joey]

That's how.

[Frank Alvarez]

That's how.

[Joey]

I mean, that's. It's cool that you choose to do that, because I really do think that's, like, unique experience. Like, I don't think anyone else is testing their discipline in that way.

[Frank Alvarez]

Wow. Wait a sec. You know what? You kind of gave me something there.

[Joey]

So, I mean, I'm serious.

[Frank Alvarez]

I am one of one.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

Like, I did that thing. No one else has done that but me. Except maybe the voice actor that did it for the show.

[Joey]

I'm sure people have memorized that before, but not for the intention that you.

[Frank Alvarez]

Are one of one.

[Joey]

One of one.

[Frank Alvarez]

You kind of made me feel better about myself there.

[Joey]

I wasn't trying to put you down.

[Ant]

I agree. One on one.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, I'm. Yeah, yeah. One. One on one. End the show. Also this. You fucking Mary Kate. And Ashley on a box set of a VHS cover. Who does this still? I know we hold their arms. I know we've done human beings a lot. Human beings. Yeah. But like I as like a gotcha thing. I mean, you know, it was like a. Seems like I've got you cornered.

[Joey]

Very anime.

[Frank Alvarez]

Very. Not just anime, but like it's like 80s movie school bully. You know what I mean? It's like, well, you have lunch money. Guess who's hungry.

[Joey]

I love the give me your lunch money thing. In the movies it was like they would hold them upside down and shake it out of their pockets.

[Frank Alvarez]

I don't know what pants these kids were wearing. You could hold me upside down and shakes me for hours. Nothing's coming out of my pocket.

[Joey]

That's what I mean, like what, what are we talking about here?

[Ant]

Did you guys have lunch money?

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah.

[Ant]

Growing up.

[Joey]

Yeah. When we were like younger. Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

I, I don't. But like it wasn't like a. They gave me cash. Like it was like an envelope that we like gave our teacher and the teacher would give it like for whoever needed it.

[Joey]

Yeah. I mean now look, thinking back, like I don't remember mean, we definitely had.

[Frank Alvarez]

Cash when it was pretzel day.

[Joey]

Well, yeah, that. But we do, we give. We didn't pay cash.

[Frank Alvarez]

I didn't. So my.

[Joey]

Oh, I asked my mom ahead of time.

[Frank Alvarez]

I asked my mom about this recently because I was like, I never remember paying. And she's like, it, we paid. But I would because she was always close with all the school teachers and all the schools.

[Joey]

Oh, nepotism.

[Frank Alvarez]

Sure. She would pay them directly. Like she would go and like give it like, oh, this is for Frankie today.

[Joey]

I thought that like there would be these payments like I vaguely remember handing an envelope of money and then they would like mark your name so that they knew like you would go on that line or something.

[Frank Alvarez]

Why do, why. And you know, like they even still do this a little bit to kids. Why give kids that much responsibility with something like we've had to for like our kids school, like they had the holiday shops around this time of the year where you know, it's like, you know, you could, you know, buy something for your whole family and it's like a scholastic book, fair amount of stuff. But like it's like send your kids in with cash. Like why haven't these schools like set up something where it's like I can like load it onto my kids account and they use it that way?

[Joey]

Yeah. I don't know. But I mean, I Think also it was like an income thing because I think some people got free lunch.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yes, correct. It was. But I'm saying like giving your 7 year old a fucking envelope of money and being like, go give this to your teacher.

[Joey]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Frank Alvarez]

I'd be like, no, I think that's why my mom didn't let me. Because I'd just take it and go to sip surf and play.

[Joey]

Yeah, yeah. I think it was just like. I think that's what it was. It's like an envelope you handed to your teacher and she marked your name and then you're good. But there were some children that I guess their families were below a certain amount of income, so they got free lunch. But you know, I think my. Well, my mom didn't work in the school at that time, but she worked in a school and my dad was a fireman. So did you have been getting no free lunch?

[Frank Alvarez]

Well, we know someone didn't have to pay Yellow.

[Joey]

Definitely. He was paying double over there.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, they made him pay for the whole class.

[Joey]

He's absolutely brought in filet mignon.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, yeah, Like Dean Martin, give me filet mignon.

[Joey]

Yeah, I need my espresso.

[Frank Alvarez]

Six year old with his fucking vodka Red Bull and having a lobster tail at lunch. Everyone's eating. We know you had that hat in elementary school too. Enough with the hat, dude.

[Joey]

Yeah, he's like, I used to at lunch at the table, I would eat chicken piccata.

[Frank Alvarez]

Wait, so I know we're. We got completely off track back to you going to the movies. You had a good time at the movies? Yeah. Would you go back to the movies?

[Joey]

If I was compelled to watch a movie.

[Frank Alvarez]

Has there been nothing that has come out where it's just like, I should go see that in the theater?

[Joey]

I think I'm just spoiled by the way that we consume now. Like, it'll. It'll like these things will be available at. In my living room in a couple months.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, that doesn't.

[Joey]

But like for me with movies, it's like if I see a movie and I'm like, oh, I want to see that, that the time that that lasts is probably much shorter than it lasts for you because if it did last longer of like, no, I really want to see that movie, then I would be compelled to go, dude, the last.

[Frank Alvarez]

Week has been trying because we haven't finished Stranger Things. And I was just like, let's watch them all right now. Let's do it all. I wish. I know we can't because of just like, they're very long episodes, but, like, Becca's just like, we'll watch an episode tonight, and then we'll wait a couple days, and then we'll watch. Which we haven't done this time. But, like, she's much more. I'm like, I'm like the Binge now model.

[Joey]

I'm like, that too, once I get started. Like, I'm not. I don't like taking days off. Like, especially if we're sitting here and we're not really doing anything.

[Frank Alvarez]

Like, we.

[Joey]

Why are we gonna watch anything but the show we decided to watch?

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joey]

So I'm kind of like that too. Nicole's like, she can do, like, two, but then it's like, are you guys into Stranger Things? She's never watched any of it. I've. I've watched it. I just haven't watched the new season.

[Frank Alvarez]

Watch it.

[Joey]

And it's tough to be like, I'm gonna put on this. Like, imagine having no context. I'm like, oh, these kids. And there's aliens. Like, it's hard to explain.

[Frank Alvarez]

Technically. Not aliens. I mean, we. So we just had. We just showed Miles, so that's why we waited as long, because he had to finish season four before we started watching season five. And he's like, I got, like, three episodes left. And I was like, get in your room. Yeah, I'll do your homework.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

And go watch this show. And he was just like, no, I want to enjoy it.

[Joey]

You're. You're sick tomorrow because you're gonna be home watching Stream.

[Frank Alvarez]

No, I'm not kidding. Last. I think it was Monday. He came home, and we hadn't started watching it yet. And on the way home, I called Becca, and I was just like, is Miles home from school? And she's like, no. I was like, the minute he walks in, take his backpack, send him to his room to watch Stranger Things. I'm not playing around, dude. Yeah, I. When I, like, let's watch it.

[Joey]

It's getting increasingly tougher not to. Like, already parts of Stranger Things were spoiled for me.

[Frank Alvarez]

So if you say anything, either of you, because I haven't finished this batch of episodes yet. That gun that I brought up a couple episodes ago, I'll use it to shoot the hat off his head.

[Joey]

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[Frank Alvarez]

Over at you, I just see Nicholas Cage.

[Joey]

I know it's just sitting on his butt.

[Frank Alvarez]

And a raccoon.

[Joey]

That's a cute raccoon. I don't wanna.

[Frank Alvarez]

I've. I'm in a few. I'm currently in a feud with a raccoon at my house.

[Joey]

You have raccoons we beat your garbage.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah.

[Joey]

Nice.

[Frank Alvarez]

No, dude. So I went out there the other night to throw out garbage, and it There. It was just on my garbage can. It was standing on my recycling. Lifted it up and was.

[Joey]

Isn't that so cute how they have hands and they can just do stuff that.

[Frank Alvarez]

Not cute, dude, because it was a mess. There was garbage everywhere. I found pieces of ham and turkey all over the place.

[Joey]

I'm surprised you let that go to waste.

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean, we ate most of it. It was. It was. It was pieces that, like, were scraps.

[Joey]

Yeah, I didn't think it was a full hunk of ham out.

[Frank Alvarez]

Well, I was. And then we got. We went to get our tree the other night, and I got home, as I pull up, guess who's in the garbage can?

[Joey]

Elvis Presley.

[Frank Alvarez]

Sure. I got out of the car, and I literally, like. And I was like, everyone get out that side of the car. Because I didn't want this thing to attack my family.

[Joey]

Do they attack?

[Frank Alvarez]

They can.

[Joey]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Frank Alvarez]

They got teeth. They got hands, as you said. They got. They got claws.

[Joey]

Yeah. You know, I mean, unfortunately, you can't trust them right now. But we. I feel like we've gotten to a good place as far as rabies. Well, I'm serious.

[Frank Alvarez]

What do you mean? Like, me specifically? He's gotten to a good place? Or like.

[Joey]

No, no, no. Like the. Well, I can't speak for the world, but the us.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, we. Rabies, we have all but eradicated its effects on humans. If you.

[Joey]

Once we start. Once we officially be like, yo, it's eradicated, I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna start hugging some raccoons then.

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean, let's be very clear about something. Yeah, you can do that.

[Joey]

Yeah. It's a risk.

[Frank Alvarez]

You can't. But, like, you could also go hug a raccoon. They scratch you, they bite you. You just go right to the hospital, and you should be good.

[Joey]

Yeah, I don't want to. I don't like going to hospitals.

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean, a lot of urgent care clinics in the Northeast carry it because rabies is way more prevalent over here. As you could tell, I am the utmost fucking expert on rabies vaccine availability.

[Joey]

Yes.

[Frank Alvarez]

I had to go to the fucking. When we were in.

[Joey]

I know.

[Frank Alvarez]

When we were in Phoenix, I had to go to the hospital there to get my rabies vaccine. Yeah.

[Joey]

Did I hurt?

[Frank Alvarez]

Did it height? The first one wasn't cool.

[Joey]

Can you feel it go in?

[Frank Alvarez]

You like, oh, I'm. I'm now anti rabied.

[Joey]

I like to imagine that I wish because like I've gotten IVs before and like whatever, but like I wish I could just feel it going everywhere like a shield. Oh, it's killing everything. Oh.

[Frank Alvarez]

Like you leave there and you feel stronger or something.

[Joey]

I feel like we did talk about this, but it's, I can't remember, but I just saw a video online about it. But when I got an IV and there were some bubbles and I'm like watching the bubbles in the thing and I'm like, am I gonna die?

[Frank Alvarez]

Oh yeah. There was a movie I saw that was like, if you pump air, if air gets in the person's bloodstream or something, their heart will explode.

[Joey]

It's definitely not good. But I, I, I also, I saw it coming from the bag and I was just like, oh God. And it wasn't big. It was just like these two bubbles.

[Frank Alvarez]

Oh, but if it's an iv, the air doesn't get into you. Oh no, it does in an IV.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

Because the way the IVs are set up, like the air won't travel through what? At least in my experience.

[Joey]

Well, there's like these little bubbles because they also have to inject these things into the bag.

[Frank Alvarez]

Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. Yes.

[Joey]

A little bit of when you're, when.

[Frank Alvarez]

The saline solution goes in, it makes a little frothiness.

[Joey]

No. So like the bag is the bag and there's no air in that, but there's a part of the bag that you can inject things into. And in this case it was like vitamin B and like some other shit. Yeah. And I guess during that maybe that causes some sort of whatever. But I'm watching the bubble and I'm like, oh God. And then it goes into my arm and I'm just like, yeah. What's that like, what's that thing with like bubbles, you know, like the bubbles in the thing, like it's dangerous. And he's like, oh yeah. I was like, yeah. Cuz I just saw two go in.

[Frank Alvarez]

And probably should have said something before you saw him go in?

[Joey]

Yeah, I, I, I, I, I didn't think that was polite to. Yeah, I thought my life was in danger and I thought it was impolite.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah. Let me.

[Joey]

Yeah, but he explained like the, the dude who was doing it, he explained that like it's okay if like little bubbles, cuz your body can handle that. He's like, this would have to be like a lot of, of air and then that gets in. Like that would be a huge issue.

[Frank Alvarez]

Like if someone like put one of those old timey like fire starters. You know which one I'm talking about? No, you know what I'm talking about the accordion ones. Yeah, the accordion looking one that. Oh, like the tip of an umbrella. Yeah, if they put that in you and just started going off, I could see. I mean, that's a problem.

[Joey]

I mean, of course that. But they, but he was like, it would. He's like, these bubbles, these little bubbles are not a big deal deal. Even if they like attached and made one little bubble like that, then like, that's not really a big deal. Like your body can kind of filter that out but. Or your lungs or whatever. I don't know. But he's like, if the, if he's like, I. I prime the line, meaning that the fluid goes through it first to get all the air out there and then you kind of clip it so that, you know, whatever. But if you don't do that and like a decent amount of the line is air and that gets in you now you're fucking. So it kind of ease my anxiety about that because.

[Frank Alvarez]

Don't tell me this, because now I'm gonna be very bubble observant next time.

[Joey]

I go get like, well, the mini bubbles are fine. It's supposed to ease like, those are okay.

[Frank Alvarez]

Death by bubble would be so, so rough. So rough.

[Joey]

But you know what I thought about? I'm like, there's a lot of people on the street that are addicts who.

[Frank Alvarez]

Oh, you're making us, you're making this serious.

[Joey]

No, no, they, but they inject themselves. I'm like, if a bubble would, would kill someone like that, you would think that would happen more often, like. And that would be the reason.

[Frank Alvarez]

Sure.

[Joey]

So I guess when he was saying that, it kind of like made sense because that was always something I thought about because I always thought a bubble in the line would be a big deal.

[Frank Alvarez]

I don't know why. I obviously know about like, you know, addicts using needles and stuff on the street and stuff. The first time I saw an actual syringe on the street, I like ran.

[Joey]

What? Where?

[Frank Alvarez]

Like I was by Astoria park on the Strip.

[Joey]

You ran in the opposite direction?

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, I was like, oh, like, like it was gonna like grow legs and chase me.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

It's like, I don't know why, but it's been like such a spoken of like vilified situation of like needles. If you see a needle that I was just like, I just need to get as far away from this thing as I can.

[Joey]

That's so Funny.

[Frank Alvarez]

I sprinted, brother.

[Joey]

Do you want to hear a funny story that, like, is similar to that? Like, how it doesn't really make sense why you would run away. Keith one time was hammered and got a sandwich and was walking home. I believe it was my, like, 23rd birthday or something. And he's walking home from the bar by himself and he heard the cops. They were doing something else. He heard the cops and just got so scared and. And for some reason ditched his sandwich and then ran home.

[Frank Alvarez]

If anything, the ditching of the sandwich, that's littering.

[Joey]

And I was like, what did you think? Like, did you think that they were after you and your sandwich? They could have been. And he's like, I ditched the sandwich and I got home.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, but Amber, tell me it was a thing growing up in Astoria that, like, if you saw the cops, it was like, oh, they're here. Like, what are we doing? You know, not that we were. Well, there were times where we were doing stuff we could have gotten in trouble for. But, like, I remember. I remember that same sentiment. Just like walking down the street and the cops roll by and I'm just.

[Joey]

Like, oh, they're after me.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah. Like, what did I do now? Fully knowing I did nothing.

[Joey]

There was also not a lot of cops in our neighborhood growing up.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, I feel like they. And if they cared about anything, it wasn't us.

[Joey]

No.

[Frank Alvarez]

You know, like, they were a hundred percent, like, more busy with other people.

[Joey]

Were you there when they came up to us in the park? I don't know if you were there. I know Josh was there, but this is when Josh. Josh used to be mad small dude. Like, he was like, tiny. And we were at the park and we at this. This is probably around the age that you would be, like, drinking in the park or doing something. But we weren't doing that. And the cops just pulled up, like a DT pulled up in, like, a unmarked car and then just like, came right into the park. Like, would have caught us if we had on us. And just like, came up to start shining a lights at me, like, what.

[Ant]

Are you guys doing?

[Joey]

And then I'll never forget. We're there and the guy flashes the light towards Josh.

[Frank Alvarez]

He goes, what are you, 10? He was like 18 years old. Yeah. No, that same thing happened at the lake. What are you dead? Do you remember the same thing happened at the lake where they saw Josh and they were just like, are you 12? You know, he did look very small for his age.

[Joey]

Now he's huge and kick our heads off.

[Frank Alvarez]

So he's pretty big, but also, I could still kick his ass.

[Joey]

I will do anything, Josh, for you to take two rounds with Frank in.

[Frank Alvarez]

The gym, let's be very clear. Josh would kill me, revive me, and then kill me again.

[Joey]

I can't wait, dude. He's going to hit me up and be like, yeah, we should get a video.

[Ant]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

He said that to us before, like, yo, like, standing out of studio sparring, Just sparring Josh. Yeah. He would take that very seriously. And he'd win. What about you two?

[Ant]

At the same time now?

[Joey]

We get them.

[Ant]

You get them.

[Frank Alvarez]

Two people in what kind of fight?

[Ant]

That's a good. Good question.

[Frank Alvarez]

Well, because he does all kicks.

[Joey]

No, he. No, he punches.

[Frank Alvarez]

He strikes.

[Joey]

Yep.

[Frank Alvarez]

All right, so, I mean, Thai. I. I thought Muay Thai was kicking.

[Joey]

There is kicking. There's also punching, plus punching. If Frank, like, tackles them.

[Ant]

Yeah.

[Joey]

Like, if we both, like, just tackle them.

[Ant]

Yeah.

[Joey]

You know what I mean? Get our paws on them.

[Ant]

You're right.

[Frank Alvarez]

I think I can. I can withstand, like, two or three punches, and I think you can withstand two or three punches. Yeah, maybe if they're not in certain areas. You know, like, if it was just.

[Joey]

Like, bang, here in my nose, I'd.

[Frank Alvarez]

Be like, I think that we could get and corner him and get him down together as a unit before, like, two on one. I mean, we're two grown. Yeah.

[Ant]

No, it's hard. It's hard.

[Frank Alvarez]

The best athlete in the world would have a difficult time.

[Joey]

I really wonder what he's thinking while he's editing.

[Frank Alvarez]

He's that in this. Like, he's fucking.

[Joey]

There's no fucking way.

[Frank Alvarez]

It's like, you fucking. Ding, ding, ding. I kick Frank's head off. Here's what I fully expect, is that one, we're gonna get a text going through how he would whoop our ass. He's gonna give me a fucking right cross.

[Joey]

Knock my fucking mouthpiece out.

[Frank Alvarez]

Well, he probably. He'd probably go for my knee first because I had my knee surgery 15 years ago.

[Joey]

I don't think that he has a scouting report on you.

[Frank Alvarez]

He knows that we've known the kid forever. We've known him for, like, 20 years. He probably knows our weaknesses. He's probably mapping this out right now. And I would say, though, he should be more worried about me than you. No. No offense.

[Joey]

Why?

[Frank Alvarez]

I'm just. I think I'm in a bigger weight class than him, so I just have more.

[Joey]

Bro, do you know how much Josh weighs?

[Frank Alvarez]

The kid looks.

[Joey]

I know what he looks like.

[Frank Alvarez]

I Would say he weighs 170.

[Joey]

I think he probably does.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah. And it's all.

[Joey]

But it's not. He doesn't look like that.

[Frank Alvarez]

He looks like.

[Joey]

He might be less, but he's big.

[Frank Alvarez]

Well, because he's doing this, he's still. Well, it's because you could be as muscular as you want and go to as much Muay Thai as you want. He's still four foot six.

[Joey]

I mean, I don't know that. Now you're four foot six. Now we're gonna have to do the video. Now we're have to do the video. Josh, we're gonna rent out a gym. We're gonna see what happens.

[Frank Alvarez]

He's gonna text me. He's like, I have to defend my family's honor.

[Joey]

Yeah, I can't imagine that.

[Frank Alvarez]

We'll be all right.

[Joey]

Well, how do we get from raccoons to that?

[Frank Alvarez]

Do you think you and I tag team could beat up Ant?

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

All right, good. As long as you. We're.

[Joey]

We're saying that we could beat up Josh. Wow. What do you think he's gonna beat Josh up?

[Ant]

No.

[Frank Alvarez]

You don't think so?

[Ant]

I'm not beating Josh up.

[Frank Alvarez]

You sure just trains to fight also.

[Ant]

I'll just start grabbing.

[Frank Alvarez]

What's that?

[Joey]

Was that tits or balls?

[Ant]

It was both of you.

[Joey]

Oh, my. Our next.

[Frank Alvarez]

No, but what were you grabbing that you were going like.

[Ant]

No, it was the ball. It was the balls.

[Frank Alvarez]

Oh, you're a dirty fighter.

[Ant]

There's two of you. You're not. You're not.

[Joey]

I just meant in general, like, are you a dirty fight? You. They all grab your ball. I don't give a.

[Ant]

Sure, don't.

[Frank Alvarez]

Sure, yes.

[Ant]

Don't try it.

[Frank Alvarez]

Well, for once, talk about something opposite. That has nothing to do with your hat.

[Ant]

It depends. It depends what they're doing. Yeah, but I'll grab you.

[Frank Alvarez]

Who's they?

[Ant]

Both.

[Joey]

You like your opponent?

[Ant]

I'll grab you balls.

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean, if. So if we don't go for balls, you're not going for balls.

[Ant]

Oh, my God.

[Joey]

It really depends.

[Ant]

No, there's two of you. I'm going for balls. You have no chance. I'm going for rifle balls.

[Joey]

Oh, how do I defend my balls? Jeans. Jeans.

[Frank Alvarez]

No, you can get. You can. You can do.

[Joey]

Be tougher, though, also, if I'm like, spread.

[Frank Alvarez]

If anything. If anything, sweatpants, you're better off baggier sweatpants your will get lost in the cloth.

[Joey]

Mine's same jeans are, like, tougher to.

[Frank Alvarez]

Like, get through the denim material. Sure, but I'm Saying, like, if you wear like, really baggy, like, Jenko jeans or something, I can go right up.

[Joey]

To your balls, right?

[Frank Alvarez]

No, there's a lot of cloth in between them.

[Joey]

Okay. You wear sweatpants, I'll wear jeans.

[Frank Alvarez]

I'll wear. I'll wear leggings. That's actually worse.

[Joey]

Have you ever worn leggings?

[Frank Alvarez]

No, I don't think so.

[Joey]

I mean, even. Nah, you could wear it with leggings. You never worn, like, leggings?

[Frank Alvarez]

Thank you for giving me.

[Joey]

No, no, no. I meant like, like, like. I don't mean like women's leggings.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, like, like long johns or. Or like for like football or something.

[Joey]

Long johns. Mormons. What do we do?

[Frank Alvarez]

I don't know. I'm just saying like. Or like for like football or something, you know, Mormons wear like a full.

[Joey]

One piece Long John, like, to bed the. The, like the top of the. More like as Mormon as you can get. Look that up. Mormon bedtime. Mormon bedtime clothes.

[Ant]

Mormon bedtime clothes.

[Joey]

Mormon bedtime clothes. I forgot what it's called, but it's like a thing and it.

[Frank Alvarez]

And it's like the ass flap.

[Joey]

It may. It's not like bedtime garments. That's probably a bad way to say what I wanted to say, but there's like a full. Yeah, like that.

[Ant]

Like this?

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joey]

It's like a whole thing.

[Frank Alvarez]

Come on, dude.

[Joey]

Yeah, and I'm not sure why, but I. This. I sweat too much. I can't. I can't go full more.

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean, I could sleep in that, but, like, the fact that I would have to would upset me.

[Joey]

I'll say this. It's kind of crazy that it's white. We're talking about stains. We don't know what's going on. Well, Disney's Lilo and Stitch has finally landed on Disney plus. Now you can. You can watch the global phenomenon at home with your ohana. Be good for one second.

[Frank Alvarez]

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[Joey]

Disney's Lilo and Stitch, rated pg now streaming on Disney. And right now you can get Disney.

[Frank Alvarez]

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[Joey]

Incredible limited time offer. Terms apply.

[Frank Alvarez]

Well, let's unpack that a little bit.

[Joey]

What do you mean?

[Frank Alvarez]

Stains of what? What are you doing in your sleep that you're staining your clothes, dude? I don't know.

[Joey]

You're fucking sweating and like your bud and your balls and like, I don't know.

[Frank Alvarez]

You're Are you and I on the same page here?

[Ant]

I feel like this would be more concern for you.

[Joey]

For me?

[Ant]

For him.

[Joey]

Why?

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, I mean, I've spoken. You guys talk about sleeping naked all the time, and I'm like, no, like, that's crazy. And you. But you.

[Joey]

But you're not worried about sweating that thing and just making it look like it's.

[Frank Alvarez]

I guess you sweat more than I do, so sweating is not an issue for me.

[Joey]

Not at night.

[Ant]

Are you not a sweaty boy?

[Frank Alvarez]

No, not really.

[Joey]

Frank doesn't really sweat.

[Frank Alvarez]

I don't really sweat.

[Joey]

Wow, your pits sweat, though. Like, sometimes you got a white tea that, like, the corner is like.

[Frank Alvarez]

That was the deodorant. That was the deodorant. I'm telling you right now. There was a deodorant that I was using, and I'm not going to name the name of the company, but I. I'm not kidding. They ruined several shirts because it, like, turned my underarms black. I'm serious, dude. I have. Sure. You've seen them.

[Joey]

I. I've seen. I'm like, you know, someone take a. In your arm.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah. And. And that was fully the deodorant because I've. I've used other deodorant that doesn't happen.

[Joey]

So even if that is true, we don't know. Alleged. But even if that's true, you putting the shirt back on is that counts?

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah. I have detachment issues. I'm sure that's fair.

[Joey]

Detachment issues. Even with white T shirts that have armpits?

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah. Because I remember where and when I got those shirts.

[Joey]

A pack of white tees?

[Frank Alvarez]

Yes. Some of them I don't. Some.

[Joey]

Do you really not Like, I know that, like, you don't like for things, but, like, what's. What's like a ridiculous thing that you like, that you can acknowledge is ridiculous, but you don't throw those things out.

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean, I have boxers from when I was in, like, middle school.

[Joey]

Yeah, I know that. But, like, is there, like, a weird item?

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean, I have shirts, you know, that I. That. That no longer fit me. You know, at a point in time, I was a medium.

[Joey]

Right.

[Frank Alvarez]

What the hell was that? I have, you know, but they're like, nice shirts still, that I'm like, I'm just gonna keep this. And I don't do the whole, like, if I go to be a medium again. But just like, I'm not getting rid of this. Why? Because. Because if those threads could talk, they'd tell the story of my life.

[Joey]

They Can't.

[Frank Alvarez]

I know, but if they could.

[Joey]

But what does that mean? What does that count towards?

[Frank Alvarez]

I think that there's.

[Joey]

Wait, so hold on. This is interesting to me, honestly.

[Frank Alvarez]

Sure.

[Joey]

A shirt that you have, that's a medium and it's not a particularly like, it's a blue shirt.

[Frank Alvarez]

It's a nice shirt. I got some nice shirts.

[Joey]

No, no, I'm saying just like a shirt though, that's like a blue shirt. There's like nothing crazy about it. Okay. Hanes blue shirt. You wouldn't throw it out even if though it doesn't fit you, there's not this like pattern on it that's like whoa. It's just that it's your shirt.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yep.

[Joey]

And you won't throw that out.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah.

[Joey]

So you haven't thrown out a shirt ever?

[Frank Alvarez]

No, of course I have. There are some shirts. I make exceptions and if I throw a shirt out that is non donatable, like it's like no one's gonna take this. I rip it like Hulk Hogan.

[Joey]

Also, when I say throw out clothes, I mean donate.

[Frank Alvarez]

I donate most of the clothes that I, that I get rid of.

[Joey]

I donate every single piece of clothing.

[Frank Alvarez]

Well, no, there are certain ones that you like, shouldn't do.

[Joey]

You know I donated that Gucci shirt.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yes, you told me that. And good for whoever got that.

[Joey]

Whoever got this, I'll donate literally anything.

[Frank Alvarez]

I will too. But like a white like raggedy T shirt that has fucking pit stains and shit like that. I'm not donating that. Well, yeah, I'm, I'm tearing it like I'm Hulk Hogan.

[Joey]

Yes. I think that's a great way to kind of go about that. But what separates a shirt? So it's only a shirt that's like, why are you willing to part with someone?

[Frank Alvarez]

Did I wear it for something specific? Like does there something about it that I can remember? You know, like for instance, I have an old pair of like Nikes, but they're like, like I use them for like mowing a lawn and stuff like that. And I recently got a new pair of shoes and I went to go throw these out and I looked at the shoes and there is a little paint stuff stain on it. And it was from when I painted Ruby's first nursery and I was like, oh, well now I have to keep these forever because it ties it back to something.

[Joey]

Right.

[Frank Alvarez]

If that wasn't there. Yes. All the times I wore it, all the times I did this and da da da da.

[Joey]

Right.

[Frank Alvarez]

It would still be meaningful. But now that I see the Thing, and it brings it back to a specific. I'm like, oh, well, now these are mine forever.

[Joey]

Okay. Which I understand. Let's talk about the potential situation of you throw it out anyway.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah.

[Joey]

Like, I don't want to say that someone did that, because I can see how you would be upset by that. But, like, what happens if you do throw them out? If you're like, you know, I'm just gonna throw them out, their shoes. And, like, I get it. There's like an attachment, the paint, cool, whatever. But you kind of let them go. Like, what is that? How does that make you.

[Frank Alvarez]

I think that they're just. There's a time where you just feel like it's time to let them go. And you let them go. I mean, eventually, in theory, like, they will forever be energy in the universe. And that doesn't take that from that, because let's say I throw out a pair of shoes, let's say they're donated to somebody else. Somebody else has them. Eventually, through time, they'll get melted or burnt down through, you know, a landfill or something. That energy goes out into the air, and it's forever in the universe, in our ever expanding universe. So there is a time where I can allow it to continue its process into being a part of it around us, or I could light it on fire myself and I can inhale the fumes. I'm not saying I'm doing that because that might not necessarily be good for me, but it's something.

[Joey]

It is. Yeah. Inhaling shoe fumes.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah.

[Joey]

Yeah. No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't suggest you do that.

[Frank Alvarez]

I haven't and won't.

[Joey]

So what is the. So what is the reason why? Because this. This thing that you just said where you give something away or you donate it, it becomes garbage. It gets melted. The energy is still. You talk about the energy or whatever. Why do you need all of that in your. On your personal. If that's something that you.

[Frank Alvarez]

I don't need all of it. I don't. I mean, you.

[Joey]

You keep a lot.

[Frank Alvarez]

I keep a lot. Not all of it. There are stuff like. Literally, like, as time passes, I get rid of other stuff. I just did it when. When we moved to our new house. Like, I took the time to go through my old stuff, and literally, like, I was, all right, it's time for this to go. All right, it's time for this to go. It's time.

[Joey]

Is it a time thing?

[Frank Alvarez]

It is. I think it is a time thing, and it's also a relevance thing. Like, I am probably way more inclined to get rid of something about, like, from my own personal life than, like, from, like, that has to do with, like, the kids and Becca, you know, because, like, that is more relevant and meaningful now, like, compared to a, you know, empty beer bottle I had for my 21st birthday.

[Joey]

Why?

[Frank Alvarez]

Because that thing that. It's just one of those things I find, like, if I'm going to be sentimental about this stuff, I'd rather you're.

[Joey]

Less sentimental about yourself.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yes, I'm more sentimental now about the family that I have and, like, stuff like that. So, like, stuff that I have of my own, I'll be like, oh, yeah, okay. But it's a time thing. It's a time and relevance thing.

[Joey]

That's interesting.

[Frank Alvarez]

You just throw it out. You just get rid of it.

[Joey]

No, I don't. It's not like that. I mean, I think that the way my mind works is if I found these shoes and it was like, there was a piece of paint on there. From a thing to me, there's not enough of an attachment to the overall. Like, there has to be something else. Like, I don't need every single thing that reminds me of that to. Yeah. Exist in my. Like, I would want something. Of course.

[Ant]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

I. I mean, it's just. I. I think it's obviously subjective, person to person. Like, in that moment, if paint got.

[Joey]

On six things, would you keep all of them?

[Frank Alvarez]

Probably not.

[Joey]

You would pick one.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah.

[Joey]

Okay.

[Frank Alvarez]

I would say, yeah, but because as.

[Joey]

You'Re like, all right, the paint splatter. Yeah, because one paint splatter.

[Frank Alvarez]

Because the one paint splatter puts me. It reminds me of everything included in that. You know what I mean? Okay, so, like, you throw out the brushes.

[Joey]

That's a big pain.

[Frank Alvarez]

No, I still got the brushes.

[Joey]

Okay.

[Frank Alvarez]

I cleaned them out, so they're still the brushes that I use to paint all the kids rooms. Right. So eventually I'll be like, this is the brush.

[Joey]

And your kids are gonna go, dad, please get rid of it. We do not.

[Frank Alvarez]

I'm, like, afraid as an example. Here's an example.

[Joey]

My God, you're gonna have a museum of your own life. Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean, is that not what houses are when you move out? Like, don't your parents give you, like, here's all your shit that I kept. You can do whatever you want with fit.

[Joey]

I know.

[Frank Alvarez]

No, your mom did. Your parents.

[Joey]

My mom has stuff, but not. Not, like, a lot of things. She has, like, folders of, like, you know, and, like, old, like, school projects, maybe that's fair.

[Frank Alvarez]

We have, like, some clothing, but there's.

[Joey]

Nothing like, oh, this is the wallpaper from your room growing up.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah.

[Joey]

Like, what the fuck am I going to do with that?

[Frank Alvarez]

I'm also. Let's be very clear. I acknowledge that I'm probably a little too intense about this stuff.

[Joey]

I know. And, like, that's totally fine. I'm just trying to understand the.

[Frank Alvarez]

The.

[Joey]

The mentality behind it.

[Frank Alvarez]

The mentality is just like, I. I am very much so into the idea of, like, you know, like, you tell stories and, like, you're basically right now, like, if someone were to meet you, like, you don't know that person, but you have a collection of stories and things that you've been with and been through and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that makes and contributes to who you are.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

And to me, these relics, these items that I hold on to allow me to kind of bring myself back to those moments, back to those memories. Where was I? What was going on? What was our life like? Oh, my God. We were expecting Ruby, and then, like, we were. Oh, do you remember how you like. It just. It kind of fuels the fire of the story, and then eventually that fire gets dimmer and dimmer and dimmer, and then maybe you pick up something and you're like, oh, my God. And it comes back, rejogs your memory. Yeah. Sometimes. I mean, think of how many stories you've probably stopped telling that you just forgot about.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

So you got to keep that candle burning. I don't think.

[Joey]

I personally don't feel like I need to. Okay. I think that, like, that's. That's probably okay.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah. I don't think there's any right or wrong way to do it.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

No, it's not. I also think. I know. I.

[Joey]

Are you worried? Is that, like, the worry, though? You're worried about you'll forget something?

[Frank Alvarez]

Sometimes. I mean, but that's not why. That's not like, propelling me to do this stuff. Sometimes there is the worry of, like, oh, man. Like, what if I forget? Let me tell it again to, like. But then also, it's just like, I don't know. There's like, for instance, I have, you know, one of Ruby. I. I don't have one. I have five of Ruby's pacifiers from when she was a baby. Eventually, I'll only have one, because I know eventually I'll be like, I don't need all five of these. But, like, when I have a physical object, it's like, to me, it's like a Sense of, like, time travel. Like, I can go back to be like, oh, my God. Like, this was the thing that she and us. And at the time, like, it just. To me, it feels like there is more to this item. It's like the idea of, like, if you were to go and buy a dinosaur bone, you know? Yeah, you go buy a dinosaur bone. It's just like, yo, this is from this time.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

Think of the time that it's lasted. Where was it all that? Like, there's more to it.

[Joey]

So I definitely understand that. I guess the. I, Like, I. I get what you're saying, and I agree with you. The part that I think that makes you stand out, as far as that goes, is maybe the amount and the, I guess the items, like, very specific, niche items. Sure.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah.

[Joey]

So it's like, that's why I'm wondering the mentality behind that. Because, of course, like, the pacifiers, like, I wouldn't be surprised if you kept.

[Frank Alvarez]

All of them like that.

[Joey]

To me, you know, especially with, like, your young children. They're young ones. Keep everything. Like. Like, you know, I mean, obviously, but the. But the, like, you know, your. Your shirt that. That was a size medium that, of course, would never, you know, like, you're never gonna, like, wear it again, and it's just like a shirt or whatever, and it reminds you of something. Like, still the idea that I have to keep this, too.

[Frank Alvarez]

Well, that's what I mean. It's also. With clothing in particular. It's also like, I can offer it to my kids one day. Like, Miles, maybe one day he'll want the shirt, and if he doesn't, then we can get rid of it, because then there's no point for me to have it. Like.

[Joey]

But is that the reason you're keeping it or why honestly chose to keep it?

[Frank Alvarez]

Like, at that time, I would say 50. 50.

[Joey]

But you probably kept that shirt at a time where, Miles, we didn't exist.

[Frank Alvarez]

I mean, I. I see what you're saying. No, but I see what you're saying. But my mentality is just like, oh, it's an old shirt. I've had this shirt forever. I'm gonna keep it. Maybe one day he'll want it. If he doesn't, then basically the clock expires on both of those things, and it could be time to get rid of it.

[Joey]

Okay.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah.

[Joey]

And do you. Do you have anyone in your life that's like that, too?

[Frank Alvarez]

Probably not to the extent that I am. I think I definitely have people in my life. Like, I think it is a part of my family. Like we all like took things from our childhood home and stuff like that. But I think I am probably like younger though.

[Joey]

I meant like when you were younger. Like when I was younger. I see anyone doing this and you're like, oh, I like this.

[Frank Alvarez]

I don't think so. I really do think, and as all things tend to with me, it all comes back to my Megazords. I really do think that seeing Toy Story 3 and realizing like, oh, those toys that I played with at that age are now gone.

[Joey]

Huh?

[Frank Alvarez]

Put me more in probably a concentrated position to just be like, let me hold on to it as long as I can. And then I want to get rid of it at my time. I'm not blaming my mom, but I am blaming my mom.

[Joey]

Pixar's to blame, really.

[Frank Alvarez]

And my mom.

[Joey]

Okay, interesting.

[Frank Alvarez]

And Joey's just like, oh, what's this? My kid's birth certificate. This?

[Joey]

No.

[Frank Alvarez]

And he'll burn it and rip it. No, I'm not like, no, I know, I know. I've chops.

[Joey]

Do you do that? Do you keep stuff?

[Ant]

No, I feel like I'm good at detaching from it. Unless someone like give gifted me something maybe like if it's their time and their money and their thought, I'm more likely to save it, I suppose than anything I have.

[Joey]

Yeah. I think also like there's been times like in the past five years that like I do a secret Santa with my friends and like sometimes you get a gift, you're kind of like never going to use this. And I'm okay with getting rid of that pretty suddenly. Not like that day but like I'm just, it's just not for me. And like I just don't, I don't even think that the gift was given with this. Like this is all of me here, this item. So I'm like okay with kind of detaching from stuff like that.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, I guess I get that. But I'm like you, if someone gives me a gift, I am like, even if I'm not crazy about it, like I'm going to keep it, I'm going to wear it, I'm going to. Like that's just because it's a representation of what that person thinks of me now if they get me something like here, whatever, you know, like a, it's clearly like a, you know, like a non thought out thing. Bit different. Still going to keep it though, like.

[Ant]

And I don't know, like, I guess, I don't know if this is weird. But, like, so, like, when people send things to my P.O. box, like, I'm more likely to keep that than something like a family member got me as a gift.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah. That is. If anything, it would be opposite.

[Ant]

Yeah, I know, but it's like. I don't know. I just feel like. It feels like an extra. Extra thought and, like, an extra purpose.

[Frank Alvarez]

Did that hat come in the P.O. box?

[Ant]

No. This. Well, no. No, it did not.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah.

[Joey]

I really wonder what it is. I don't know if there's something wrong with me, but, like, I only keep stuff that really, like, moves me. Like, if I got something and it felt like it really, like, moved me, then I'd keep that. But I don't know that I have that many moments.

[Ant]

We just got to get him more things, Frankie.

[Frank Alvarez]

That's what he's saying we want to get. This is my issue. Around his birthday and Christmas, I'm like, what do you get the guy that's got it all? I don't know.

[Joey]

I don't. But I don't. I don't even like items.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, he doesn't like things.

[Joey]

I don't like items.

[Ant]

So we got to get him experience.

[Frank Alvarez]

You got to get him time.

[Joey]

Get him time.

[Frank Alvarez]

You. You're. You've. You've always said that, like, one of your love languages is, like, quality time.

[Joey]

Oh. Oh, so, like, bring it.

[Frank Alvarez]

Bring a sleeping bag and just show up to his place, be like, this is your gift.

[Ant]

I'll do that.

[Frank Alvarez]

I'm going to stay here for a week and a half.

[Joey]

I'll tell you what. You want to talk about a gift that would get thrown out immediately? Here's my sleeping bag.

[Frank Alvarez]

What? Sleeping bags are cool. I used to have a ton.

[Joey]

Dude, I used to sleep in a sleeping bag in my own home.

[Frank Alvarez]

That's sad.

[Joey]

No, it was fun. It was like camping. Oh, okay. But you can't. You know, I had a bed.

[Frank Alvarez]

I thought you were doing the whole, like, I slept on the floor for the first six years of my life.

[Joey]

No, no, I would just. I would sleep in the basement.

[Frank Alvarez]

Be like, spreading lies about you.

[Joey]

No, no, I had a bed, but I would be like, oh, this is fun. I'm camping, and I'd fucking sleep in a sleeping bag in the basement.

[Frank Alvarez]

Everyone used to do that.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

The only difference between us is I kept the sleeping bag, probably. Or a shred of it.

[Joey]

You know what this is? This is a feather that was in the sleeping bag I have.

[Frank Alvarez]

I was just texting my brothers and sister about this yesterday.

[Joey]

You know what I Actually got a text from my sister the other day. She sent a photo of this. Of this, like, poster of. Do you remember, like, the first time that I ever hosted, like, a club night?

[Frank Alvarez]

And it was the night before Thanksgiving, wasn't it? Yeah.

[Joey]

Oh, no. My mom sent it to me, and she goes, I just found this. And she's like, do you want to keep it? I was like, no.

[Frank Alvarez]

I pulled this out of my. One of my keepsake boxes the other day. It's my childhood pillowcase.

[Joey]

I can't see. There's a glare.

[Ant]

Send me that.

[Joey]

Oh, it's just a pillowcase.

[Ant]

Yeah, send me that quick.

[Frank Alvarez]

It's a Toon Squad pillowcase.

[Joey]

Why?

[Ant]

I was gonna send it to Josh.

[Joey]

Oh, okay.

[Frank Alvarez]

It's. And. And. And I, like.

[Joey]

That's a cool pillowcase.

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, it was. The other side is the monstars.

[Joey]

And did your blanket be monsters, too? What? Did my. What was that sentence?

[Frank Alvarez]

Look at my blanket be monster.

[Joey]

Did your blanket be monstars, too?

[Frank Alvarez]

Dude, look up the. The space jam beds spread.

[Joey]

I remember that. Did you have that?

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah, that's what that is.

[Joey]

That's why I'm thinking about it.

[Frank Alvarez]

But, like, I think about, like, oh, my little childlike head.

[Joey]

Yeah.

[Frank Alvarez]

Laid on this.

[Joey]

Yeah. Like.

[Frank Alvarez]

Like, oh, my God. This is a relic of time. I could put my head on it and. Am I a kid again?

[Joey]

It's so funny because, like, I don't have that. Because it's me. Like, I would have that if it was like, oh, this is Abraham Lincoln's pipe. But you're like, this is.

[Frank Alvarez]

I'd care less about it if. Honestly. Honestly. Honestly, I care less if it was Abraham Lincoln.

[Joey]

Really?

[Frank Alvarez]

Yeah. I don't give a fuck about him. I'm not him. He's not me. I am him. Let's be honest about that. Oh, I'm not him, though.

[Joey]

Yes. You're not.

[Frank Alvarez]

Capital H. No, no, I am. Capital H. No.

[Joey]

Because God is him. Oh, he is risen.

[Frank Alvarez]

They.

[Joey]

It's 2025.

[Frank Alvarez]

I don't know.

[Joey]

That is fair. Well, there's no real way to get out of that conversation. We just kind of have to hop out of that. We went from Mormon bedtime garments to this, so there's a lot of range in this episode. But thank you so much for watching Frank. Where can they find you?

[Frank Alvarez]

United States, Canada, Mexico, Panama, Haiti, Jamaica, Peru, Republic, Dominican, Cuba, Caribbean, Greenland, El Salvador to Puerto Rico, Colombia, Venezuela, Honduras, Guyana, and still Guatemala, Bolivia, then Argentina, then Ecuador, Chile, Brazil, Costa Rica, Belize, Nicaragua, Virginia, Bahamas, Tobago, San Juan, Paraguay, Uruguay. Server Name and freaking Barbados and Guam.

[Ant]

I think he took up my time.

[Joey]

Yeah, I think he did, too. Thank you guys so much for listening.

[Frank Alvarez]

I wish you had cut me off sooner.

[Joey]

We hope that you guys are able to hear this episode over Ant screaming about his hat the entire time, but we appreciate it.

[Frank Alvarez]

Give us the time to talk.

[Joey]

Thank you so much for watching, and we'll see you next time.