#566 - Do You Believe?

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Basement Yard

Episode #566 – Do You Believe?
Date: August 3, 2026
Hosts: Joe Santagato, Frank Alvarez
Podcast Description: Lifelong friends Joe and Frank riff on energy drinks, wild preworkout culture, supernatural beliefs, old-school video games, nightmares, meditation, the concept of ‘energy,’ astrology, and wrap up with spontaneous live tarot card readings.

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Overview

In this freewheeling episode, Joe and Frank explore belief, skepticism, and the weird overlap between pop culture, fitness trends, and "spirituality." Tinged with their trademark back-and-forth banter and self-deprecating wit, it’s an episode loaded with nostalgia, playful arguments, surprising vulnerability, and ridiculous spontaneity. From the effects of infamous preworkout drinks to the legitimacy of tarot cards and astrology, the two probe what it means to "believe"—while never taking themselves too seriously.

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Key Segments & Content Breakdown

1. Caffeine, Energy Drinks & Odd Bodily Awareness

Timestamps: 00:00–06:12

• The show launches with Joe wound up on an energy drink, leading the trio into an animated riff on the strange bodily sensations these drinks cause (tingling, hyper-awareness, feeling “lightning in the fingers”).

• They joke about ridiculously named preworkout brands, poking fun at the masculine, aggressive branding and the wild, drug-like effects.

  Notable quote:

  “My shape is not in. Can’t run too far.” — Joe, (00:35)
  “When I drink an energy drink, I feel like I can feel all my hair.” — Frank, (00:49)

• Physical comedy: on-air competing to see who can "run" with their fingers the fastest.

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2. Audience Interaction and Live Show Submissions

Timestamps: 03:27–06:37; 35:00–38:30 (reiterated in sponsor section)

• Announcement: If you’re coming to one of their live shows, you can submit funny/embarrassing/insane photos via their website. The best/wildest will appear during their shows.

• Recounting memorable moments from the previous live card submissions; teasing the type of wild images they hope fans send in.

  Quote:

  “Some of those shows, those cards were so incredibly memorable and just out of left field insane.” — Frank, (04:22)

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3. Preworkout Culture & Absurd Branding

Timestamps: 07:12–14:45

• Deep dive: they reminisce about early-2010s preworkout drinks—“C4,” “The Curse,” “Psychotic,” “Woke AF,” “Bulge,” “Pimp Blast”—mocking how aggressive and often sexual the names get.

• Discuss the physiological effects: tingling, “alive” sensation in random body parts, and feeling “wired” to the point of psychosis.

  Quotes:

  “The worst person you’re gonna see at the gym is taking this…and beat you with a lead pipe.” — Frank, (14:44)
  “The closest I’ve had to a psychotic break where I feel like I am a deity is when I’ve taken an old school preworkout.” — Frank, (13:17)

• Joe compares intense preworkout to the “screen goes red when you almost die” effect in video games (13:45).

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4. Nostalgia: Dance & Racing Movies, Video Games

Timestamps: 15:01–23:33

• The crew fondly recalls mid-2000s dance movies ("Stomp the Yard," "You Got Served")—the impact they had as teens, and how they inspired legions to try dancing.
• Crossover to classic video games:
  • “Def Jam: Fight for New York”—Frank drops $150 on a vintage copy.
  • “Burnout,” “Twisted Metal 2,” “Turok Evolution,” “Need for Speed: Underground 2” and “Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3”—they celebrate their favorite moments and absurd features.
• Observations about how older games’ challenges haven’t aged well ("Grind this rail near this dirty hobo…", 20:22).

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5. Nightmares, Lucid Dreaming, and Sleep Oddities

Timestamps: 23:49–29:42

• The three talk about childhood nightmares, sleeping in weird places (like under benches, “like a cat”), and their post-sleep denial habits (never admitting to falling asleep, even when clearly caught snoring).
• Joe reveals he occasionally has nightmares involving Keith, and they debate what qualifies as a “nightmare” versus a “bad dream.”
• Lucid dreams:
  • Joe recounts a vivid dream where he realized he was dreaming and playfully attacked a dream character (“I slammed a chair over her head…like rubber”, 27:22).
  • Ant chimes in about lucid dreams and why heightened excitement quickly snaps you out of them.

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6. Meditation, Energy, and Spirituality: Sincere Skepticism

Timestamps: 31:17–43:48

• Brief foray into the Buddhist practice of self-mummification ("sokushinbutsu"), then transitions to ideas about meditation and whether gaming or hyperfocus can “count” as meditation.

• Debate over sound therapy, vibrational healing, and whether “energy” is a real, physical effect or just personality/mood.

  • Joe is open to some ideas (e.g., standing barefoot on earth feels beneficial) but highly skeptical about crystals, star signs, and claims of “energies” emitted by rocks.
  • Frank is extremely practical, favoring logic and tangible evidence (“I guess I’m closest to a scientist”, 51:04).

  Quotes:

  “Do you believe in…energy?” — Joe, (45:42)
  “I think it’s a mindset… I don’t know if there is a physical, measurable thing.” — Frank, (46:21)

• They agree “vibes” are real, but argue whether they’re measurable or just mood/personality.

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7. Astrology, Life Path Numbers & Numerology

Timestamps: 56:34–66:10

• Discussion shifts to astrology. Both are skeptical, especially about broad sun sign traits, but Joe asks whether there could be any deeper connection between birth timing/stars and personality.

• Ant introduces numerology (“life path numbers”). They plug in their birthdates online and read the (very generic) traits they’re assigned—Frank immediately calls out the vagueness.

  Quote:

  “It’s so vague, it can work for anyone.” — Frank, (59:27)

• Debate over whether numerology (being math-based) has more legitimacy, only to realize that humans invented calendars, so the logic falls apart.

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8. Tarot Card Readings—From Reluctant Mockery to Mild Buy-In

Timestamps: 66:10–80:00

• Joe pushes for an in-person tarot reading; Frank is outwardly skeptical but admits he’s “just a little scared to find out”—paralleling the classic “I don’t believe, but I won’t mess with it just in case” attitude toward Ouija boards and the occult (66:51).

• They live-Google tarot cards, clicking through suits and readings (literally picking cards by name/suit/number), then read the online interpretations:

  • Frank (Eight of Swords): "Negative thinking, victim, limiting beliefs." (75:18)
  • Frank (Page of Wands): "Potential, inspiration." (76:21)
  • Joe (Nine of Pentacles): "Abundance, financial success and luxury." (77:16)—met with classic mockery from Frank.
  • Ant (Two of Wands): "Planning, faith in the future, and delays." (78:45)

• Mocking the randomness and storytelling of tarot card labels (“the maiden in the pumpkin patch”, “the church and the albino”, 71:59–72:06).

• Despite poking fun, they admit when the card meanings eerily fit, it’s at least "kind of crazy" (75:23).

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9. Reflections, Honesty, and Therapy Lite

Timestamps: 69:14–70:31; 79:50–81:19

• Joe teases Frank that his reluctance to try tarot hints at deeper fears and avoidance (“That sounds like something for a therapist, honestly”, 69:14).
• The crew remains open—but with the caveat that skepticism and a need for evidence will always color their perceptions.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Preworkout Branding:

  “If you wanted a hit preworkout in the mid-2010s, you needed to name it something that sounded like a crime.” — Frank, (07:21)

• On Meditation:

  “I probably would benefit from it, but there are a lot of people that openly…say they do mini meditation.” — Frank, (42:04)

• On Skepticism:

  “I don’t want to offend anyone, but if I put a rock down and say ‘this gives off a very specific energy’, do you subscribe to that?” — Frank, (49:45)

• On Fear & the Occult:

  “I don’t believe, but I believe enough to not fuck with it.” — Frank (66:43)

• When Tarot Matches:

  “That is insane. Yo, that is fucking outrageous. You mean this is what you’ve been doing this whole time? I don’t think so.” — Frank, (75:23, responding to Eight of Swords drawing)

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Final Segment: Tarot Card Shenanigans

• The hosts each randomly pick tarot cards online, read the meanings aloud, and react with a mix of jest and real surprise when the details seem to align with their real lives or personalities.
• The segment blends skepticism, laughter, and—briefly—a sincere admission that some things are just weirdly accurate.
• Wraps with gentle roasting of each other and their "fates" according to the cards.

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The Episode in a Nutshell

Energetic, irreverent, and often insightful, Joe and Frank toggle between playful disbelief and honest admissions about the things they do—and don’t—believe. Whether riffing on preworkout lunacy or the meaning of tarot cards, the episode loops back again and again to the idea that belief is a spectrum, often dictated by mood, experience, and just how badly you want to be convinced.

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Who Should Listen

If you love skeptical but open-minded discussions, pop culture nostalgia, and spontaneous humor, this episode will make you laugh as it makes you think. Even the committed skeptic will find a little room for magic—or at least for a wild night fueled by “Gorilla Madness” preworkout.

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Socials

@joesantagato (Joe)
@thefrankalvarez (Frank)
@antprisco (Ant)
@thebasementyard on TikTok & Instagram

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[End of Summary]

Transcript

[A]

Welcome back to the base.

[B]

Welcome back to the basement yard. What are you doing with your fingers?

[A]

I don't know. I had one of those energy drinks, and now I feel like I'm moving faster than ever.

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Go real fast. Run in your seat. Really fast. No, run, run, run, run, run. I know that's not how you run.

[A]

Whoa, dude.

[B]

What's going on?

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He's got lightheaded.

[B]

Please don't go down. You don't think you passed out doing a fake run during the podcast that

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shows how shitty my shape is.

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My shape. My shape not in shape.

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I got my. My shape. I'm not. I'm. My shape is not in. Can't run too far.

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My shape is off. I'm misshapen.

[A]

I, I, I, I. You don't do that. Like, when you're, like, really energetic, you feel like you're moving faster than ever.

[B]

I, I feel like I could feel all my hair. Oh. Like, when I drink an energy drink, I feel like I could feel all the hair.

[A]

I feel like I could feel like I could, like, shoot lightning out of my fingers.

[B]

I do a lot of this.

[A]

I do. You know what? That's weird. I do this and I crack. My. My fingers crack. Sometimes I do it. I'll just go, like.

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I become very aware of my arms, and I'm like. I can move them.

[A]

I. I just get, like. I get, like, really, Like, I can feel like.

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I can feel my eyebrows sometimes, and I'm just like, yo. What? Like, you very aware.

[A]

I hear my blinks. That me up.

[C]

What?

[A]

You don't hear your blinks? Sometimes?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

When you blink, you're just like.

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It goes like.

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Not. Not like, I'm a shy guy.

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Yeah.

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What does that mean? It's a Mary. That's the thing for us.

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Oh, shy guy. Yeah.

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Yeah.

[C]

Oh, that sounded like Yoshi.

[A]

No, it did. That's Yoshi, baby.

[C]

That's pretty good.

[B]

Wow. You just got them all in there.

[A]

I got a couple. I mean, I have kids. I do this regularly.

[B]

You just do a show.

[A]

You will, too, when you have children. They'll be like. They'll be like, daddy, Daddy, pick me up out of my bed made of solid gold and do a fucking impression. And you're gonna be like, all right. I could do an impression of Rick Rubin because that's all. That's the book you're reading at the time.

[B]

The fact that you know Rick Rubin's name is fascinating to me.

[A]

He was a music guy, right?

[B]

Kinda.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Long white beard.

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Yep.

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Yeah. I know.

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Yeah.

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How is the fastest you could do this?

[B]

What?

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Go as fast as you could go. No, just two fingers. Ready? Stop. Ready? Hold on. Slow down. Why do I have to stop? I'm doing it. I'm saying I want to see how fast you can. Just one. How fast you can go? Go as fast as you can go. Ready?

[B]

I don't know which one I'm better at. This one.

[A]

Ready?

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No, this one.

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Set, go.

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This is.

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That's nothing, dude. That's slow as.

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Hope you're all entertained. You're not even doing it. You're not even kicking your feet there. Kicking, like switching.

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Yeah, that was pretty good.

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Yeah. I don't know.

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I wish they made bigger chairs. I'm sorry, I got to stop.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Drink is going crazy.

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1.

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Anyway, before we start this episode, which I mean we've already done, just wanted to let everyone know if you are coming to the shows this year. We're doing a very fun segment where we're. We are going to allow everyone in the audience to peg Joey to.

[C]

That'd be pretty difficult to set up.

[B]

Nobody loves you more than you. Nobody loves you.

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You're God damn right. It's just self love is the best love.

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Yeah.

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It's not.

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We have this segment in the new show where you guys can submit photos for us. So last year we had the cards and that was like the people in the crowd submitted those cards. So if you're coming to a show you can go to the basementyard.com submit and you will see this landing page. So there's a dropdown menu where it can show you which show you're attending. You put in that show. Then you upload a photo. It can be of pretty much anything. It could be like an embarrassing moment or a funny thing or just the craziest thing that you have in your camera roll within reason here and you submit it. And then we can put those things up on the. We're going to put them up on the screen.

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Yeah.

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So it's going to be all things, all the things that we put on the screen are going to be from people at the show that night. So go to the basementyard.com submit submit your crazy photos and yeah, maybe you'll be on the big screen at the show.

[A]

There were some of those shows where those cards were so incredibly memorable and just out of fucking left field. Insane.

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Yeah.

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I can only imagine what these pictures

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are going to be.

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I know.

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If you could, if you do you have a picture you could think of that you would Submit for this. That just needs context but has none.

[B]

I'd have to go through.

[A]

You'd have to go through and find something. The annals of Joe Sanado's old pictures.

[B]

I have to go all. Yeah, I have to go back in my camera roll and find something.

[A]

There are some that I have. I, I, I've.

[B]

You save like every photo, don't you?

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Oh, I don't know about every. I have a lot going back.

[B]

Don't you have like a laptop that

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has like thousands of photos? I, I honestly I haven't checked it in years and I don't know if it's like one of those things that like I need to save or like they just dissipate into the, the cloud or whatever. It's not you that I'm thinking it might not be, but there are. I have pictures of like. Because I was the one, like I said, when we do Vegas trips, I was the one that had that lifeproof case.

[B]

Yeah.

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So like I would bring my phone everywhere and people would just take my phone and take pictures and stuff like that. Yeah, it was, it was a fun time. It was an interesting time.

[B]

Yeah. So we're gonna find out about these people in the crowd. But again, this is what it looks like. Go to the basement, yard.com, submit. Send those photos in for each of the cities that you're gonna be at and. Yeah, that'll be fun. Also there's a, there's an option to like tell the story behind the photo and you can put your name or you don't have to put your name. Whatever it is.

[A]

I think I'm gonna submit one and

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see if, if I can throw it up.

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Slide it by. Yeah, I can get it by whoever's gonna be reviewing this. Yeah, let's hope it's Greg because if it's you, you're gonna be a sick freak with it.

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I would be good.

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Yeah. Why are you talking like that?

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I don't, I couldn't think of the words.

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Be a good.

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I've had a. It's, it's, you know, we're chilling. I've also had one. So the words. The brain's going faster than the mouth.

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Okay.

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I love when that happens.

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Well, yeah, no, your mouth goes before your brain for sure. Sometimes I can just, I can just tell that sometimes you start talking and then you start looking around the room and I'm like, oh, he's looking for the rest of it. What is that all the time?

[A]

Maybe when we record. But I'm a very well spoken and And I compile my thought. I compile my thoughts.

[B]

Well, no.

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Yes, I do. What the hell does that mean?

[B]

No, I'm talking about when we were recording.

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Oh, yeah. No, no. What? I'm recording it.

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You just let it rip. Yeah, well, and then we have to figure out what we're doing here.

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You know, that does happen sometimes, if not a lot of it, you know, but so what?

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I don't need this. I don't need the whole. So what? I'm whimsical and we used to. There used to be companies that would.

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Wow.

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Clock see what he's doing.

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I just know.

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I just know you're attacking me. Honestly, this is becoming a form of

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a full blown attack.

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Assault.

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We're assault.

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You're assaulting.

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Speaking of assault, that was the name of the. The brand that I like. The pre workout that made me feel all my hair, brother.

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If you in the early to mid-2010s wanted to have a successful pre workout, you needed to name it something that sounded like a crime.

[B]

Yeah, that would make a conservative just like get horny. It'd be like blood fire.

[A]

Welcome. It's called Chimpanzee Come.

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You know, just like no, first place your mind went. Because I was on a different vibe there. I was thinking more like dragon come.

[A]

That's a better one.

[B]

I wasn't thinking come. The chimpanzee wasn't the problem, Frank. I was thinking more like bullets and guns and fire and.

[A]

Well, the first one I remember was C4, which lines up with your exploit. And I remember taking it and like

[B]

they still have it.

[A]

I know, but it's not what it used to be. Oh, I don't know that it's not. I mean I took a pre workout like a couple years ago and I was like, okay, I feel like I've been pre worked but like, but like it's nowhere near what it used to be in like 2013.

[B]

Now imagine just a full apel bang.

[A]

Well, I think a lot of those old pre workouts got in trouble because they had some shit that's like similar pretty much methamphetamine. Yeah, like they're closest as close it could legally be to methamphetamines without getting arrested.

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What a crazy concept, man.

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I remember I had one called the curse.

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The curse? What did it have like a fucking still exists.

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It just had a skull with like, like eyes, like bright red eyes.

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The curse.

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The curse. Pre workout. You'll come.

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There it is.

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Oh my God.

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Is it still there? Yeah, brother. That's what you bought yeah, that shit. It's still around. I'm not kidding. You would be able to count the amount of times that your dick is fucking puckered. This made you feel every part of your body.

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I'm not going to lie. Sometimes you feel your dick. I can feel it, like, living. Like, yeah, I can feel my wiener. Living.

[A]

Yes.

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I'm like, yo, is it breathing right now?

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I don't know what it was, but, like, there was a point when I was like a teenager where, like, I had, like. It was brain and dick. That's all that mattered on my body. And I, like, knew, like, I had, like, a.

[B]

Like a.

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Like, I was in step and lockstep with it. I knew what it was gonna do.

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I had a summer like that with my nipples where, like, I knew I could feel my nipples at all times. Now I just have nipples. I don't even think about it.

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It's like, confused.

[B]

You look confused. You've never been in tune with one

[A]

part of your body for a second. Your fucking giant balls. And it would take you four hours to get a thought from your nerve endings to your balls.

[C]

You guys are locked in. I'm. I'm here for the ride.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

The cur. I'm telling you, these old pre workouts,

[B]

the curse is crazy.

[A]

I know. There's. There's other ones that are like. It's called, like, you know, assault and battery.

[B]

Yeah.

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C4 insane veins woke AF. No disrespect. That sucks.

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Yeah, that's terrible.

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Sucks.

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Woke AF. Pre workout. Oh, God.

[A]

What do we find some other ones

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you gotta go just type in, like, pre workout.

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Insane pre workouts. Yeah, like, yeah, yeah, because there are some that just like. I'm telling you, they were the closest

[B]

to drugs that I've Just one called just. It's like, yo, take this.

[A]

It's called bulge. Bulge. Wait, you scroll down. We gotta see these. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, Pimp blast.

[B]

No, no, no, no.

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I mean, we need.

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These aren't like. Hold on. We need a better.

[B]

You need.

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You need to go to images. Go to images, go to images and we'll see. Okay, so what do we have? Chad mode?

[B]

This one's called Psychotic.

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First of all, that one says, I am God. Insane labs with a Z. I am God. I am God. That is fucking awesome.

[B]

Apple flavored Adam and Eve.

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Oh, that's a good one.

[B]

Yes.

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Look at the other one. It Jack you Max. And it would be maximum male support. I don't know if that's real.

[B]

Oh, wait, this is.

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That might be A dip.

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This is.

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This might be a.

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This for bigger explosions.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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How does that even. What is it? Just put gunpowder behind your jizz.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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Yeah, I think. I mean. Hey.

[A]

All right, let's take a look at the other one.

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Can we scroll down here? Yeah.

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You got edge of insanity. That's what a lot of them are psychotic. Like they are trying to show you that like taking this is going to put you in a state of psychosis so you can work out better.

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Bulge is so this one.

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This one's called hashtag notforpussy.

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Not for pussies or just not for pussy.

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Just not for pussy.

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Oh, okay.

[A]

If that's real. That all the way, dude. That's so all the way. And it's funny because these are the worst people in the world taking these. AKA okay, that just says pre prank. That's just what that says.

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Precon.

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That can't be real.

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Yeah, I don't know if that one's.

[A]

That can't be real. I can't be real. Bulge. There's bulge Demon dust. Yeah, baby. Gorilla mode madness. I love it. Because you know what's crazy is you take it and you do feel like this stuff. Mother bucker. Yeah, baby.

[C]

That would make sense.

[B]

That does. Wait, what does that say? Does that say what?

[A]

Daddy pump. Pump Daddy Volume 2, V2.

[C]

Volume 2.

[B]

Okay. Daddy Volume 2 V2.

[A]

I'm telling you right now, the worst person you're gonna next time you go to the gym, the worst person there that's taking this is gonna see you and beat you with a lead pipe.

[B]

Just type in like funny pre workout names. Let's narrow.

[A]

I mean, are we not seeing them?

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No, we are, but I feel like up

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Christopher's juicy pumps. Yes specified who made it.

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I think the. The insane ones and funny ones are one and the same.

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Here spit pre workout in my mouth.

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No.

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I can't believe I am God.

[B]

Bulge is unbelievable.

[A]

But it. I gotta say, you do like the closest I've ever had to like a psychotic break where I feel like I am a deity is when I've taken an old school pre workout.

[B]

Yeah. Well also when you're on pre workout and then. Or any sort of caffeine, at least for me some pretty sensitive to caffeine. And then I am doing a workout. If I'm not breathing properly properly. And then I finish my set, I'm kind of like. And like my whole world is closing in.

[A]

Gunk, gunk. Like it feels like, you know, when you play Like Call of Duty and like you're playing the first person shooter and you get shot and it's like you're almost. You're almost near it. That's what it feels like when you take these things.

[B]

Yo, the other day I went for a run and then it felt like. Like I had, like a headache. I was. I was like, dehydrated, but I went for a run and I was like. I felt my. It felt like only the top half of my head was pounding and I could feel it move.

[A]

Yo, I'm not kidding. I've had headaches where I'm like. I feel like Megamind. Like, I feel like my head getting bigger, getting bigger to the point where it's going to fucking erupt. Yeah, that shit is scary.

[B]

I know. And that's. So I took my hat off because I'm like, let me. Let my big head breathe.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do I have a big head?

[C]

No.

[B]

Do I have a normal head or a big head? Do I have a big nose?

[A]

If anything, you know, I think you're pretty normal. Like, I guess your head's a little big.

[B]

It's a little big.

[A]

Sometimes I feel you have a smaller head than I do.

[B]

I got a big neck. I know that.

[A]

Here, put this on. This fitted. This is a fitted. So it'll tell you if it's smaller than my head.

[B]

What size is this?

[A]

7, 3 8. That's good size.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think you have an animal. Yo, has your TikTok been giving you what it's been giving me?

[C]

That's not how that works.

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Have you the.

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For you.

[A]

Sometimes I think, because I got a TikTok the other day and it was like this guy going through the comfiest shoes. And then I saw you posted the shoes and I was gonna buy the shoes. The, like the, like Nike VMO Premiums or something like that.

[B]

The vomero.

[A]

Yeah. I was gonna buy them because it was like, these are the comfiest shoes in the world. And then I saw you wearing them and I was like, well, now I can't. Have you seen. I don't know if your TikTok algorithm has brought you here to hat toss and queen.

[B]

No,

[C]

I'll try.

[A]

It's just like, people that live in, like, upstate. Not even upstate New York. It's like Yonkers.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And it's just like a guy who likes a hat toss and catches it and his girlfriend, and they're just dancing.

[B]

I honestly am a big fan of that.

[A]

They look like they have a modern love story. I don't know.

[B]

I love when people, like, are doing the. The, like getting light and then they have the hat and they, like, put it on their elbow and they catch it with their knee.

[A]

I'm like, yo, you know what we need to watch? Which we haven't watched. And I'm saying, we as a collective, we. When's the last time we watched you Got Served? Or like, any of those mid-2000s, like, competitive dance movies. You got served. Stomp the Yard.

[B]

Yo, when I. The first time I watched Stomp the Yard, I'm like, this is what I want to do with my life.

[A]

When I heard that, I almost put

[B]

a fucking hole in my bedroom floor after I watched Stomp the Yard because I was in my room just like, oh, yeah. I wanted to be Columbus Short. I was like, yo, it's got a man.

[A]

Honestly, that's a good dude. Had it going. Yeah, he was cool. Good looking dude. He could dance well.

[B]

Back flipping and shit.

[A]

Yeah, bro. Mad bat flip.

[B]

Didn't Chris Brown get shot in the first five seconds?

[A]

Spoiler alert.

[B]

Oh, shit. Yeah. I mean, the movie's 400 years old.

[A]

It is probably 20 years old, but

[B]

I loved that movie.

[A]

Yo, that movie Got Served is great too, but like, yo, when I heard you got Served, I was like, this might be the single greatest cinematic experience that might have ever existed. Well, I was like 14 at the time it came out. And I'm just like, you're seeing Omarion and Marquis Houston. I'm pretty sure that's who's in it. Yeah, like, get mad at this white dude with cornrows and a B, not even a bandana, a headband. And I was like, yeah, this guy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they're just doing like the floating thing. And I'm like, yo, how do they do that?

[B]

Steve Har is like, now we're gonna

[A]

take it to the streets. Yeah. Maybe don't do a Steve Harvey impression, Joe. Why? I don't know if that's gonna, you know.

[C]

Sit on it.

[A]

Sit on it. The dude, it. It was. Oh, Lil Kim's in that, is she? Oh, yeah. She, like, is like the judge at the end, right, where she.

[B]

I remember her being very oiled up in that movie. She was oiled.

[A]

I don't want to speak ill of Lil Kim who's speaking ill.

[B]

I'm saying she was oiled.

[A]

I'm just. I would, I would. I was gonna go into. Why would this person be oiled? I don't know.

[B]

She was oiled up.

[A]

Was she?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Can you.

[C]

I can't search Little Kim oiled up.

[A]

Yeah. No, I would never ask you. I will tell you that.

[B]

Right.

[A]

What was the. It was like the. The. The. The song at the end of it.

[B]

No, it was Pump it up by Joe Button.

[A]

No, there was another one too. That's a great song. Pump it up by Joe Budden. Yeah, I think wasn't.

[B]

Remember a little saint.

[A]

Wasn't Freeway in there too?

[B]

The Freeway song. Yeah,

[A]

just play. Oh, no.

[B]

Yeah, just plays on the beat. What was the.

[A]

What was the.

[B]

God, all it takes to make the fight.

[A]

Yo, you know what game I bought recently? Def Jam Fight for New York.

[B]

For those who don't know, Def Jam Fight for New York is a video game where you just fight as rappers. Like 50 cents fighting. Ludicrous. It.

[A]

Yes. I don't think 50 cent was in it because he wasn't signed to Def Jam Records.

[B]

But it's like fat.

[A]

It was like you could be exhibit. And you could have a four way match with Lil Kim, Snoop Dogg and

[B]

Fat Joe and you just fight each other.

[A]

Yo, this game was incredible. The roster was out of control. It was like Ja Rule, Method Man. Red man was in it. Then they had like random people, like, fucking. I think like Sean Paul was in it.

[B]

Slick Rick.

[A]

Hell yeah. But, yo, this game has become like a collector's item.

[B]

Really?

[A]

How much do you think I paid for this game?

[C]

Oh, you bought it recently?

[B]

18 bucks. 14. Am I going? Am I hot or cold?

[A]

Cold, brother.

[B]

I'm freezing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

$62.

[A]

150 bucks.

[B]

Why did you do that? You really wanted it.

[A]

I saw it and I said, I want to have it.

[B]

I would like this. So I'm gonna pay $150.

[A]

A good game, dude. And then like, you play it or you just. I have yet to pop it in and play it because I'm in the middle of playing Tony hawk Pro Skater 3. Who are.

[B]

Who?

[A]

What? Come over.

[B]

Is that the Goldfinger one?

[A]

That's the one. Here I am everything I am. No, it's the one where I'm in the middle of playing need for Speed Underground 2 and Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3. Yeah, dude, it's electric in the Alvarez household.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Yeah. You're playing games from like 2008. So what? 2004. Who's counting? Oh, you know, it'll be like, you know, those games have not aged well. If we could. You know why? Because it's like Tony hawk Pro Skater 3 will be like the challenges. Get the secret tapes, grind this rail near this. Near this dirty hobo. You know, just like. Like that. It's like, grind the rail and up this hobo's cart. It's not nice, dude. It'll be like, do a fucking fakey ollie with Bam Margera and absolutely ruin this homeless person's encampment. And then, like, need for Speed Underground 2 will be like, go do a drag race on this crowded highway with a woman. A bikini. You know what I mean?

[B]

I loved that game.

[A]

Listening to the Snoop Dogg remix of Riders on the Storm.

[B]

Yo, that game is fantastic. And I had a great car in it. And that was the game where it's kind of like open world and the cops would just start chasing you.

[A]

No, so the cops didn't chase you in that one. That was Most Wanted. When they'd start chasing you.

[B]

Oh, I love that.

[A]

But those. Oh, God. Spin around, do this. I loved. Do you remember? Not only did I love the game Burnouts, someone's. Not only did I love the game Burnout. You remember Burnout, where it was like, the whole idea was that you had to make your car crash in the craziest way. Do you remember? Keith was like, could have gone pro if that was like, a competitive game.

[B]

That sounds like a Keith.

[A]

It was like Burnout 3 takedown. And Keith would be like, I. If I hit this car at this angle, and he would make like, a $50 million crash or something.

[B]

That sounds so vaguely familiar.

[A]

You definitely remember these cars. Games. Wow. But, yeah, I wish if you could be in a video game.

[B]

Oh, my God, Yes.

[A]

Yeah. Dude, these games are sick.

[B]

That's so weird that you remember that.

[A]

Well, it's because I have it.

[B]

You have Burnout?

[A]

I don't have Burnout. I have all the other ones. But I can go get Burnout if you want it.

[B]

What was the one? Vigilante. Was that a.

[A]

Was that a vigilante?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know which one. I mean, I'm sure there's a game called Vigilante, but, like, it was like true crime streets of la. Yes, there was that. There were, you know, hit, like, the Hitman games.

[B]

Wait, what the. What else have you bought?

[A]

I. Random. Random. It's games that we had grown up. I brought. I have two towers.

[B]

I remember. I. Yeah, that game's fantastic. I remember I took a game from you once. Turok.

[A]

Turok Evolution. I have it.

[B]

You just. You're killing.

[A]

I remember. With bow and arrows, bro. I still remember the, like, all to unlock all the cheat codes.

[B]

Code to Turok.

[A]

Yeah. Fmnfb. It makes. It means nothing to Anyone. But, like, you could, like, it was like, big turn on big head mode and you shot a gun that had, like, bugs in it, and it, like, popped their heads and shit like that. Good game, man. Good game.

[B]

Do you know any of these?

[C]

I know Turok.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

You play Twisted metal for hours at a time, bro.

[A]

Twisted Metal 2 was one of the best cinematic, like, gaming experiences I've ever had in my entire life where you knock down the thing besides cinematic experience was. Was. What was it? I don't even remember. You got served. Oh, you got served. Video game is twisted metal, too. When you break the.

[C]

The.

[A]

Yes. When you break the Eiffel Tower and it leads you to another part of

[B]

the level, dude, nothing made me happier than Twisted Metal at a certain point in my life. Like, it was like, it was everything I cared about.

[C]

It was so good.

[A]

Yo, the show is good. Have you watched the show?

[B]

No.

[A]

Yo, the show is fun as hell.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Anthony Mackie.

[A]

Anthony Mackie. Stephanie be. Who's he play? Anthony? He just plays like a dude. I don't remember if he play. I think he ends up playing, like, one of the characters from the games, but, like, Sweet Tooth is in it.

[B]

Damn. Yeah, I used to get nightmares from that. When's the last time you had a nightmare?

[A]

A couple days ago.

[B]

You had a nightmare?

[A]

Yeah, I sleep. Oddly enough, it was after I finally watched Obsession. Oh. But I didn't. It was like someone. I woke up like. Like out of the movies. Someone broke into my house and was injecting me with needles, like, plugging me with needles.

[B]

Oh. Like, and they woke up to them,

[A]

like, and they were listening to some 41. That's what I remember.

[B]

Some 41. Yeah.

[C]

Sounds like a nightmare to me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you have nightmares?

[C]

I don't.

[B]

Were you a big nightmare kid when you were younger? Like, your parents always had to be

[A]

like, yeah, you definitely were. Mommy, daddy let me sleep in your bed.

[C]

No, I don't think so.

[B]

I'll be honest. I love sleeping in the bed with my mom.

[C]

That's fair.

[B]

Why?

[A]

You want to know where as a kid I used to go? My parents, for some reason, our parents generation, it was like a thing to have, like, a bench at the end of your bed.

[B]

Yeah, they love that.

[A]

What the was that?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Well, I remember I used to sleep underneath the bench and like, that was where I.

[B]

Like a cat?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This kid would sleep like a cat.

[C]

What if they stepped on you?

[B]

It's under the bench.

[A]

What are they going to step on the bench?

[C]

You Were perfectly.

[B]

Would you like hide? They wouldn't know.

[A]

Yeah. They'd wake up and they'd be like, what the fuck is this kid doing under here?

[C]

Did you ever hear anything?

[A]

Definitely not in my parents house. If I heard anything, it was just like, I'll sign the papers.

[B]

Definitely not in my house.

[A]

No.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Last time you had a nightmare?

[B]

I think I had one the other night. And when I have nightmares, isn't it funny to say nightmares?

[A]

Is it? Yeah. Like bad dream, it's even worse.

[B]

Is there a difference between a bad dream and a nightmare? A nightmare sounds way worse.

[A]

Definitely. I think it's the severity of it. A bad dream could be anything. Nightmares is like it haunts you.

[B]

Yeah, I. Whenever I have bad dreams, they always involve Keith in some capacity.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I'm just like. I don't know, like it makes me sad, I guess.

[A]

Or do you subscribe to like there are people that believe like if you eat certain things before bed you'll get like more vivid or lucid dreams.

[B]

I don't. I mean maybe that's true. I. Not my experience. Like I know like chocolate was one of those. It's like you eat chocolate, then you have like weird dreams or something. But like I have done that and I don't think that like really lines up with my experience. However, I think that if I'm. I think I sleep a lot better when I am really hydrated when I go to sleep.

[A]

Oh, that's worse for me because I'm going to get up twice to piss.

[B]

Well, that's the thing is like you do get up. But I also feel like I have vivid dreams because I'm sleeping hard.

[A]

Really?

[B]

I don't know why.

[A]

So you sleep better when you are well hydrated?

[B]

I guess. Okay, that's interesting.

[C]

You have a lucid dream.

[B]

Yes. I mean I told a story that I had a. I had a lucid dream that his brother in law, our friend Danny growing up. I was in my apartment two apartments ago. I was in my apartment and I realized like, oh, I'm in a dream because I walked out. It was my, my actual apartment at the time. And I walked out and I saw a giant spider on the windowsill, like in the kitchen. And I was like, oh, this is a dream. And then I turn around and her name's Christine and she came walking out of one of the rooms and I look at her and I'm like, this is a dream. It's not even real. So I picked up a chair and I held it over my head. And I slammed it over her head, but it bounced like. Like they were both made of rubber. So I just kept slamming the chair over her head.

[A]

Okay. And then I woke up. All right. That is.

[B]

I immediately texted her, and I was like, I knocked you over there with a chair the other day.

[C]

I. I've lucid dream, like, a couple times, and I can't get the flying down.

[B]

I wasn't flying.

[A]

I. Those are, like, the dreams that I get where it's like, I can fly. Lie at will.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But, like, it never gets to the point where I'm just like, what the. Like, where I would consider it, like, lucid. Like, they don't ever really get really, really weird, but I also forget about them, like, five seconds after waking up. Yeah, that's my.

[C]

It's because they say if, when you realize that you're lucid dreaming, you're not really supposed to do anything that'll get your heart rate too high because then it'll bring you out of it.

[B]

Really? Because I was having a workout, beating her over there.

[A]

Yeah, you were really going.

[C]

So that's.

[B]

I mean, to be fair, it was short. Short. I probably could have kept going and doing.

[A]

Done other stuff, but see, sometimes I wear my apple watch to sleep, and I don't like. It doesn't, like, spike the times that I've had dreams. So, like, I guess they're not as lucid as. If anything, I think it would be,

[B]

like, low because you're, like, not moving and you're so.

[A]

But he's talking about getting your heart rate up and like that when you're dreaming I'm pretty because.

[B]

Yeah. You know, I wonder if I'm like a dog. Like, if you have a dream, you're

[A]

like, oh, wait, no, probably. Oh, brother. I. I. For sure, you talk. Not talk, you moan. Why is that the next place you go? Well, just like, make noises like, oh, like a puppy. Yeah, it's like, oh, he's dreaming of catching a bone.

[B]

Well, you're not going to be there. Like, hey. Hey.

[A]

Well, apparently you are.

[B]

What the hell?

[A]

1, 2, 3. 1, 2, 3.

[B]

That I can't even explain.

[A]

No, I think I know that. I have, like. I believe they call them sleep spindles. It's like, as you're approaching, like, as you're falling asleep, I'll be like. And I'll just jump.

[B]

I'll do that.

[A]

I hate that, bro. I do it and Becca will get, like, sometimes, like, freaked out because you'll be like, what? And I was like, yesterday, last night, we Were watching because I was exhausted by the end of the day. And we're watching Breaking Bad, and I'm falling asleep. She's like, you're falling asleep? And I'm like, no, I'm not.

[B]

I. I don't know why I get so mad.

[A]

So don't accuse me of falling asleep. When I'm asleep, I'm literally awake. But, like, I realize it after it gets to the point where, like, after I've done it, I'm just like, well, I have to. I can't admit I was wrong. I have to, like, double down on, like, no, I wasn't. But, like, here, I'm not. Like, I'm not me. When that happens, it's not like a different person. It's a different person entirely. Yeah. You know, and it's. I. There's nothing I could do. Sleep.

[B]

Frankie takes over that in between, you're a different person, and you get so angry, and people like, hey, like, if I fall asleep on the couch or something, like, me and Nicole are watching something, she'll be like, why don't we just, like, go into the. I'm like, for what? We're sitting out here having a good time, and I'm like, out.

[A]

Becca.

[B]

Yeah, Becca, you've been sleep for 20 minutes, dumbass.

[A]

She'll be like, you just snored. I'm like, no, what do you like? What do you even mean?

[B]

My throat is itchy. Yeah, what do you mean?

[A]

But there are hard times where I've snored awake, so that. That. That is, like, my only defense.

[B]

I've done that, too, where I like. Or. I don't know if it's a snore or whatever it is, but I'm like. And then if Nicole's up, I'm like, that was me.

[A]

She's like, yeah, well, there we. On two occasions, Becca and I have gotten, like, couples massages. And she's like, were you sleeping because you were snoring? And I was like, no, I was fully awake. I was just so relaxed.

[B]

Massages. I don't know if I fall asleep or not, to be fair.

[A]

I just. I. I can't conceptualize the fact that I've sat there without stimulation for an hour. You know what I mean?

[B]

Like, what do you mean?

[A]

Because it seems to go by so quickly, but I've been awake the whole time. But I guess I was in such a state of, like, euphoria that I'm like, you know, like, I snore, but I'm fully aware you're doing it. Now yeah, it's defending himself definitely. But I don't think I'm so I

[B]

do think that it puts you in this like purgatory of sleep.

[A]

And it's like that. See that thing where it's like that monk reached the state of nirvana and they've been in like, they haven't aged and they've been sitting for like 80 years.

[B]

No. What?

[A]

You definitely have seen that a monk

[B]

like is not moving.

[A]

Yeah, look it up.

[C]

What?

[A]

It's like motionless monk. It's like a mummified monk, dude. They like reached a state of euphoria where like they like lowered their heart rate or something and like they, they're just not aging. And it was like before we get

[B]

to that, I do have some,

[C]

I don't know what.

[A]

It's monk acid food.

[C]

Okay.

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[A]

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[B]

Camera, camera album. I don't know.

[A]

Also, I'm sorry about the thing. I, I, I know, I know.

[B]

You're, you're sorry.

[A]

You're sorry. I am, I am, I am.

[C]

Butthole.

[A]

That's an example of my mouth getting the best of me there. I, I said it. And, and I will stop doing that because I know after Joey's gonna be like, stop telling people. I'm gonna show my asshole on this show and I'm gonna say I'm sorry. I will stop saying that. Joe Santagado is gonna show his asshole,

[B]

okay?

[C]

This monk, I couldn't really find at all what he was talking about. Go ahead.

[B]

Why don't you try and pronounce that for us?

[C]

I was gonna say soku Shinbutsu.

[A]

That was pretty good.

[B]

I can't believe you said that about my mom.

[C]

I just found a Japanese Buddhist practice where the monks would indeed mummify themselves to try to reach nirvana.

[A]

That's what I'm talking about. But this is a, it's a practice, but people.

[B]

But you're describing a one I've seen,

[A]

I guess that maybe I saw an example of this practice.

[B]

So what is this? They mummify themselves, which requires.

[C]

So they would die it. And then they would mummify themselves over a process of like a thousand days. So they would like get in a position, be like encased, have a little breathing tube and then, and a little bell. And after a while the bell would stop ringing. And that's when everyone thought that, okay, they've reached nirvana and Then they would take out them out of the tomb.

[A]

I guess it's possible. We don't know for sure.

[C]

Sounds like they just died.

[A]

It sounds like a thousand days, brother. They would have died well before that.

[B]

That's true.

[C]

But apparently that's how they reach nirvana, so maybe it worked. I don't know.

[B]

If I put a human being in a box and gave him a straw to breathe and they made it a thousand days.

[A]

I mean, that's outrageous. That's three years.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's insane. I don't think that's.

[B]

That can't.

[A]

You can't live without water and food more than like five days or something like monks are.

[B]

So there's. There's a. I actually don't know what qualifies as a monk, but there is a man that I believe identifies as a monk. And I saw videos of him and he was like so well spoken and the stuff that he's saying felt like it was like unlocking things in my brain. And I'm like, how are they getting there? How are they getting.

[A]

Maybe that's it. Maybe. Maybe it's. They. I gotta put myself in a box. I mean, may. I don't know. I. I don't know. I don't want to speak on.

[B]

Do you meditate?

[A]

I don't, but I heard that that's a thing that a lot. Have you ever done it maybe in like fourth grade for like 30 seconds or something like that?

[B]

Like, you meditated in fourth grade?

[A]

Well, everyone like used to do that where they'd like sit, crisscross applesauce and they'd go like this and they would say like, hum or something like that.

[B]

Right. I mean that clearly that's what I'm saying.

[A]

Like.

[B]

Right. It's racist anyway.

[A]

Is it?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Oh, I. If it is, I don't really think that's meditating.

[B]

You're like.

[A]

Well, I heard. Aren't there a bunch of comedians that do like mini meditation and like that?

[B]

Huh.

[A]

I think Jerry Seinfeld is a big one. I'm not.

[B]

Meditations.

[A]

I think it's like he does like the process of like mini meditation or something like that.

[B]

I don't even fucking know.

[C]

We had a giant argument about this. Danny says that he meditates during Call of Duty.

[A]

I mean, I would. You know what? Look up the definition of meditation. Because if it's just a place and whatever helps you get to that place, is it possible.

[B]

I will say I downloaded an app once that does guided meditation. It's like a Very popular one and it there is like I, I definitely believe in it. Like I definitely believe that it's helpful to like especially because I think that we're just overly simulated screens and whatever your eyes are always darting to have nothing and just kind of sit there and it like plays music and it's sort of like guiding and like Kaid your breath afterwards you're like that is lovely.

[A]

Oh yeah, I mean I, I, I'm sure I need it like I'm sure I would benefit but it says here it's a, I don't a set of techniques used to focus attention, quiet the mind and enhance overall well being. I mean it's just that doesn't sound like killing people in Call of Duty.

[C]

Well yeah, I don't get, I, I mean I don't get it but he

[A]

was like what's the difference between meditating and being locked in? You know what I mean? Like is that not like people like get so locked into something that they reach I'm sure a state of meditation and they're able to just kind of do the thing. Well I guess I, I, I am not, I have not tried it. I probably would benefit from it but there are a lot of people that openly like and especially comedians say that they like do like mini meditation.

[B]

Have you do meditate? Have you done it?

[C]

No, I, I'll try to like clear my mind I guess but I, how just like trying to like stop thinking please. I'll just try to do something like

[B]

that just sounds like anxiety.

[A]

Stop thinking please.

[B]

Please stop thinking.

[C]

Something like that.

[A]

The Apple watch has like a thing where it's called like mindful meditation or like, or something like that but like it is like it goes off every day at like a different time and it like show it like breathes in and breathes out and it's like think of a time when you felt the most love from your loved ones and stuff like that. I'm sure it's good for you. I probably, I would, I would recommend it but I don't know enough about it.

[B]

Interesting.

[C]

I'm not sure I need it yet. Yet, yet, sure I'll need it eventually.

[A]

If anyone needs it, it's you mister. Things are going too well. The world's about to come crashing down tomorrow.

[C]

That's not exactly yes. Do you meditate?

[B]

I, I don't currently but I have gone through like patches where I would try to be consistent with it because it's nice when you like do it a couple of times. You're like okay, like I'm. Now I'm looking forward to that. And then, I don't know, I just kind of fell off.

[A]

I do want to go to one of those things, and not because I think it's going to work for me, but just because I want to see what it is. Where, like, I think they're called, like, sound baths or something like that, where, like, they, like, take a bowl and hit it with a metal thing and then just, like, wave it in front of you or something.

[B]

The last time I got a massage. Where was I? I got a massage. Oh, when I was in Portugal and they were. That was part of the massage. It was like, really bad thing, yo. Yeah. Sound bath gets you. It's kind of fire, really. It just feels like the vibrations are doing something, dude. Like, it's like, huh. I can't even. Can't do a vibration sound, but you know what I'm saying? Like, you know the sound when it hits like a. Yeah, like that, and it's like, ooh. Like, it feels good around my head.

[C]

Maybe we're all vibrating on frequencies.

[A]

Yeah, we are. I recently had someone tell me that, like, there's like, a frequency to standing next to a beehive that makes it healing or something like that. I don't know if I'm fully there.

[C]

Technically, you could create a weapon that is the opposite of our frequencies, and it could just, like, tear your atoms apart. Poof.

[B]

What is technically and what is anything?

[C]

You said, like, we're all vibrating at a frequency, so there's opposites of that. So if you can, like, match the frequency and just, like, disrupt.

[A]

Oh, it's like. It's like when you can the frequency to, like, shatter glass.

[C]

Yes, exactly.

[A]

Like, they can just find the frequency we have that pop a human.

[C]

Yes, I guess you could.

[B]

Technically, it's called a.50 cal rifle.

[C]

That'll do it as well.

[A]

Yeah, that will definitely explode.

[C]

Do it as well.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know. I don't know if I subscribe to, like, the. The like, sound healing stuff like that.

[B]

I definitely believe in.

[A]

And you'll know if I do, because I will not shut up about it if I do.

[B]

I feel like you're not. You're not open to those things because you don't. It's like a hard thing. It's like a blind faith that you kind of need.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To be bought in.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

It's like this logically has to make sense.

[A]

1. But you don't.

[B]

You don't. Do you believe in, like, we're talking this is gonna sound so stupid, but do you believe in, like, energy?

[C]

Everything?

[A]

I. I think in like a. A. Like, not like electricity is energy. Yes. Like, I don't. Like, I don't think of it in literal terms.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like, I don't think that as a human, like, if your life is going well, you give off, like, a real, actual energy that is going to attract or determine or repel. Excuse me. Like, good things happening to you.

[B]

I actually do believe that.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, I do. I do.

[A]

I just think that, like, I think it's a mindset. Like, you're more willing to. Like, if your life is going better, you're more willing to look at things as positively. Like, I don't know if there is, like, a physical, like, tangible, like, measurable, like, thing. You know what I mean? I don't know how else to say

[B]

it, but don't you agree that there are some people that they light up a room almost, you know, and it's not because they're doing a show or doing this, like, this whole thing. It's just. There's just something about them. They're very likable. They're very, like.

[A]

Well, that deals with the. The charisma and, like, who that person is to you, like, but not always. Like, I could say that about, like, Becca, like, legitimately, like, she lights up a room, but it's because of who she is to me, you know?

[C]

Right. It's two different points.

[B]

Yeah. Like, I mean, you're in love with your wife. That. That I feel like, is a different feeling than what I'm describing. I'm describing, like, just a person, like a ran. Not a random person, but like, if we were all at aunt's house or something, and there was a person who feels like, oh, this person is sort of like, brought a different energy to this room now, and it feels like, different, and it's infected everybody.

[A]

But I feel like you get that by how that person acts. So it's not like it's. It's like. Like it's not a metaphorical or, like, a quiet energy that this person. It's like how they're conducting themselves and, like, how loud they are, how playful they are.

[B]

But if my. If my. If my actions are having a real effect on your mood, is that not a form of, like, energy? Because I'm not, like.

[A]

No, because I haven't something to point to, to say. Like, that's a measurable thing. It's what this person has done or is saying or has done or is doing that, like, makes Me feel uncomfortable. It's not like if we sat in a room together and neither of us talked, I'd be like, there's. There's something in the air that's just me. Like, and it's the same with like crystals.

[B]

And what about vibes? What's that? They're just like, it's.

[A]

Vibes is just like. Again, that's like a. That's like a personality thing. Like you could tell by like how like chill someone is and like what they're like how they're actually acting. And maybe I'm. Maybe I'm just being a big brother.

[C]

So do you think that being happy and, and being sad, it's not like energy, it's just physical. Like, I'm like, I'm acting happy, so I'm happy.

[A]

I think that your, like how you choose to carry yourself depending on your mood is, Is giving off a non measurable. Like, it's not like someone could say like the, the electrons are more stiff in the air or something like that. Like.

[B]

Well, I don't even know if I'm. If that's what I'm trying to say. I just think that it's more than just like my action. Like if someone. Here's the thing. Two people could do something the same thing, but if someone has a different type of like, vibe to it, it feels different.

[A]

Yeah, that's what they're doing though. It's their approach to it is how they're conducting themselves. Like, those are actions that not like energy. I guess I don't think of it that way, but I'm sure someone else would call it that. It's just not how I approach it or think of it. But like, let me ask you this, and I don't want to offend anyone, but like, if I were to put it a rock down in front of you and just be like, this gives off a very specific energy.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Do you subscribe to that or do you think. Because there are people that are. That are firm belief. Like a crystal?

[B]

If I'm wearing a crystal.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I don't know enough. I think that I have heard of people talking about crystals before and some of that seems a little out there for me, but I'm open to the idea that. I mean, I 100% believe in like if you're standing barefoot on the earth, that that is doing something.

[A]

Of course, like, I believe that. That I believe, but I don't think so.

[B]

Rock is like part of the earth,

[A]

but I think, yeah, but like, so

[B]

it makes Sense, I guess.

[A]

I guess I think of it in terms of like, if, if I'm sitting in a room and someone puts, you know, amethyst next to me and it's like this is giving off the energy of like, passion and. Or whatever it may be. I don't think, I think it's just a rock.

[C]

I don't think it's like that. But you know how like lead can block a WI fi signal? Kind of like it can't pass through.

[A]

Yeah, but that's a, That's a physical, measurable thing.

[C]

I understand. But like, can't a other things possibly be blocked or opened up too?

[A]

But lead is not giving off something that is an energy it is preventing. Because of how to my understanding, and I'm not a scientist, actually, I am closest to a scientist.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It's, it's. It's physical properties are preventing something.

[C]

So, so what if the, the crystals. Physical properties is just more conducive to

[A]

certain, like I, and I get. I guess that's possible. But like, how do physical properties give off confidence?

[C]

I'd see that. That, that I think is just. I think.

[B]

But I think it's more nuanced than like, well, I'm not confident. I'm no more confident. I'm holding the rock and yeah, maybe

[A]

I'm, maybe I'm, you know, simplifying a disrespectful point.

[B]

No, I think that it's. And I don't, I don't say again, I don't, I don't know enough. But I don't imagine that it's like, I will get results if I wear this. I don't think it's about that. I think it's more about like, to put it in video game terms, like

[A]

mana do, you know?

[B]

And like you, you. You put like you're holding a shield. So it's going to give you like, it's not like a changing of the.

[A]

Whatever.

[B]

It's like, it's, it's, you know, slightly more helpful than vibrations and whatever.

[C]

Yeah, I would say like 0.001.

[A]

If you were to say, like, if you go into these mines in, you know, Tahiti or somewhere and they're like natural quartz or whatever around you, I could see that in there being physically, like, measurable because like, there is, there is a physical like, like literal energy and electricity in the earth that is going through those things. But if you were to get it from a gift shop on the corner of, you know, like J Street in downtown and say, like, that's doing the same thing. I would just be like that. Come on.

[C]

That's fine. Just for you saying that it does feel like you're like right there. Like you can make the jump though. If you, if you believing in the cave around all these crystals is like conducting energy at you. You could get there.

[B]

Think about heat.

[A]

Heat is, I mean, but that's what I'm saying. Like that's, that's where I could see. Like if someone were to be like, let me show you how this is like an actual measurable thing. I would just be like cool. And I'm also not one of those people that's just like, you're crazy if you believe in that stuff. If you do, awesome. I just for me don't see. I would need to see like a study or something to be like, yeah, it is, it is a real thing. Not like, you know, just like a little, it's a little woo woo for me. I think that's the best way to put it.

[B]

I got a question for you after we get to these last ads.

[A]

Okay. I love how we started about like pre workouts called like yeah, yeah, you know, gorilla death and now we're talking energy from crystals.

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[A]

This.

[B]

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[C]

This is.

[B]

This is my number one flavor of things. So the fact that they made this, it's like they're listening to me, my energy, and they know this is made for me.

[A]

I will tell you transparently, anytime caciaba comes in here, we fight over the flavors because of how good they are. And the minute that we saw this flavor, we each have been like, who's taking it? It's unbelievable.

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[A]

I saw that. I wasn't gonna stop you.

[B]

How do you feel about any of the, like, astrology?

[A]

I am not bought in.

[B]

No, I'm not.

[A]

I'm sorry. Like, I just. Like, I can't. I just. I struggle.

[B]

So I. I'll throw you a bone here. This the. The part of it where it's like you're a very creative person or stuff like that? I'm not necessarily asking about that. I'm asking, do you think it's possible that there is some sort of connection to stars or the time you were born or any of those sort of things?

[A]

I don't. I guess I am more inclined to say no because I feel like there's more reasons that that doesn't make sense to me than there is that it would make sense.

[B]

Why doesn't it?

[A]

I don't know, I guess I really am just not. I'm not bought in. So I'm not one of those people that's just going to be like, oh, check out such a Leo. You know what I mean? Like one of those people. And like it almost feels, feels like it sometimes takes responsibility away from people. Like if they're acting like a character, to put it mildly, where they'll just be like, well, they can't help themselves. It's an Aquarius. It'd be like, well. Or they're just not a good person. You know what I mean? Like I. I don't know if I am really in a position where I like see that stuff and it. And I've seen enough evidence to be

[B]

like, yeah, do you know about the life number thing?

[C]

I've tried to look into that and I think it's way more interesting.

[B]

It is pretty interesting. Can you look it up and we can give franks and see and just again because I did mine and it's extremely accurate.

[A]

And again like it is not. We did a. We did an episode years ago on astrology. I am not like poo pooing the people that do believe this. That is cool. That is your thing. I just don't know if I can subscribe to it.

[C]

It's something like this, right?

[B]

Yeah. The life path number.

[C]

But usually I have to. I'm probably.

[A]

I think my sister in law said something about this to me and she like told me. I don't remember what it is.

[B]

Yeah, there I. I honestly like I don't know but.

[A]

Because for every three things that like don't make sense, one makes sense and people are just like, huh. Okay, that's spot on.

[B]

Put in. Let's put in Frank's birthday. So put. July.

[A]

July 30, 1992.

[C]

Okay. July 30.

[B]

Oh, that's 2026, sister.

[A]

Right.

[C]

1992.

[B]

Doesn't it depress you that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

We're scrolling Bab.

[B]

You got to scroll. And I'm like, we got a lot of years.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Was a Thursday.

[B]

That's kind of wicked, isn't it? Oh no.

[A]

Why would that be Thor's day?

[B]

No, cuz I thought. Wait, never mind. Okay, you're four. The builder. You are practical, disciplined and hardworking. You build lasting foundations through dedication. Let's go down.

[A]

See like that is so like there's more.

[B]

There's more.

[A]

But like before you go down, like that's so like it's so. It's so like vague enough that like it can work for anyone.

[B]

Okay. It's the most important number in numerology. Are you bought in

[A]

where we get how to calculate your life path number?

[C]

This one, it's a.

[A]

Don't worry about it. Oh, it's not going to give.

[C]

It's a free one.

[B]

Okay, so it's not going to give.

[C]

Like a lot of they make you pay for them.

[A]

I'm practical.

[B]

Do mine.

[A]

Like, okay.

[B]

February 25th, 1992 is a Tuesday.

[A]

Being born on a Tuesday, it's the most boring day of the week. I just want to say that that's

[B]

the day that I started posting on YouTube.

[A]

You're also my boss.

[B]

I am a three the communicator. I'm creative, expressive, and socially gifted. Self expression through art, writing and speaking is your calling.

[A]

I mean, self expression through either art, writing or speaking, the three forms of expression. You know what I mean?

[B]

Well, yeah.

[A]

Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, it's like you're either really good at wr or speaking or thinking. And it's like, yes, you know, this is you, the seeker, your analytical spirit. Yeah.

[B]

Spiritual and introspective. Truth and wisdom drive your journey, brother.

[A]

I've seen you like, what's up?

[C]

Say what's up?

[A]

Talk.

[B]

This actually said it was like your analytical, spiritual. And you love Jameson.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Say what's up? The seeker. Seven life path.

[A]

I don't. I see. Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, and I'm sure people are immediately going to jump at this.

[B]

And you're being pretty practical right now.

[C]

Yeah, pretty logical.

[A]

That's what I mean. Where it's just like, this doesn't sound like I need to be logical and practical. And it's like, oh, you're like, I wouldn't describe myself. That's kind of like what conspiracy theorists do where they'll. They'll be like, it's a conspiracy. And they'll be like, yeah, I don't, I don't know. It doesn't line up. They'll be like, that's what they want you to think. Like, the lack of an answer is enough of an answer.

[B]

I don't think so.

[A]

I don't, I don't know what this is, but I. Oh my God, dude, our comments are gonna be loaded with people. Like, please let me read you.

[C]

I would love for them to like, in depth, more into the number charts.

[B]

Would you be interested if we did like a tarot card reading? Or you're like, no, really?

[A]

I'm one of those people that like, I don't believe But I also, I believe enough to not fuck with it. Cuz I'll get like the one where it's like, you're gonna die today. You know what I mean?

[B]

Oh my God, you got the Black death.

[A]

Yeah. But like, there's also like with tarot cards, to my understanding. And I don't want to like upset any like tarot card readers that are watching this. Like, it's not only about the cards you get, but it's the placement, it's the. Yeah, the like the way it comes out. If it's left or right or up or down or.

[B]

I think they're all kind of connected and you know.

[A]

I don't know, man. Again, that's one of those things that like, I don't know if I'm bought in, but I'm also bought in just the small amount to not even fuck with it.

[C]

It's a lot of fun.

[A]

Like a Ouija board.

[B]

You've done tarot cards?

[C]

Yeah, a bunch of times. It's a lot of fun.

[B]

I've had it. I've had them read once.

[C]

One time. It wasn't fun.

[B]

I don't remember what any of it said.

[C]

There was one like, shoot. They were. She was flipping them and she was like, this last part, this last card is very important. I was like, what does that mean?

[A]

Yeah, like, I just. I don't know. Like again, I don't like. I'm really trying to specify that. I'm not trying to be disrespectful because I don't want anyone to put like a hex on me or something. But like, I just, I can't. I am not in touch with any spirituality.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To like. Are you open by.

[B]

I guess it doesn't sound like you are.

[A]

No, I am. I'm saying like I'm not like one of those people that's just like. That's all stupid. That's ridiculous. I'm not gonna. If you believe it, you're an idiot. I'm just like, not. Not that I am. Definitely not that you're not.

[B]

Not.

[A]

I am not.

[B]

You just on all that.

[A]

I didn't on it. I just said. I don't know.

[B]

You said I want to offend people. But like.

[A]

Yeah, you see, this could be anything. But like that is just pointing out like if something is general, like so general. Like that's my issue with it is not that I think that if you subscribe to it, you're an idiot.

[B]

It's just like, it's for everyone in the world, Frank. It can't be specific to Frank Alvarez.

[A]

I mean, but I know that they also get down to, like, where. When you were born, where you were born, what was the rising moon, the setting Venus, where is Mercury in retrograde? Like, it gets so specific that it is almost basically down to the minute that you as an individual were born.

[C]

I believe in a number thing way more than a star thing than a star thing. Because, like, math and science, like, if we lost every book we've ever had, what, we'll have a math textbook again eventually. Like. Like all the formulas and calculations are in the universe. They just exist. They just have to be found. But the problem with this is, like, with the calendar. We made the calendar, right? That's the only thing about me.

[B]

But that was such a awesome thing to hear on this show of all shows. All the formulas in the world exist. We just have to find them.

[A]

It's true.

[C]

Honestly, like. Like, if. If all the books we've ever made were burnt, a math textbook will come again, same exact way.

[B]

But what is. Why are you saying that?

[C]

Because it's just.

[A]

It's just math. Math and science is just. It is what.

[C]

It's just here.

[A]

It's just about how you get to the answer.

[B]

Math.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Like. Like gravity will always be nine.

[A]

Careful, because there are people that don't agree.

[C]

Like, Like Newton's law will always be that. Because that's just the calculation. It's what. Which is what weight does in the world.

[B]

Got it, got it, got it. I see what you're saying.

[A]

Correct like that. Honestly. And I know you might, like, punch my ass for this one, but, like, that's why I loved mathematics so much. Because it is what it is.

[B]

Full name.

[C]

Whoa.

[A]

You can't.

[C]

Like, first and last.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I'm giving the government why I love mathematics.

[A]

Like, mathematics. There is. It is what it is. There is nothing you could do. Like, it's. It's just. Like, it's completely. And like, sometimes it could be two things, but it is just those two things. Or like, sometimes it could be like, PI, where it's like it's everything but nothing.

[B]

It really makes sense why you would like math.

[A]

I was recruited logical.

[B]

Logical and practical. It is what it is. Oh, there's an answer.

[A]

That's what we're doing.

[B]

There's nothing for me to blindly believe in. I need an answer right now.

[A]

I mean, but there's also people that are born the same time as me that don't feel that. And like, our fours that are just not like that. I Just.

[B]

Yeah, maybe not they're at all like. I mean, I don't really know. I'm not really versed. Well versed in any of it. But I imagine there are some people that are like, this really does speak to me.

[A]

No, I know. And that's. If that's for them, cool, fine. It's just not for me.

[B]

Tarot card reader in here.

[A]

All you, brother.

[C]

Oh, you can do it.

[B]

What are you afraid of? What are they going to say?

[A]

I just don't know. Like, they scare me a little bit,

[B]

but that requires belief a little bit.

[A]

That's why I said I have the smallest amount of belief to not fuck with it. Like a Ouija board.

[B]

Well, that sounds like more than belief.

[A]

Yeah, no, just like, I'm not playing with it, but if I've seen enough horror movies for like, the guy that's just like, this is all garbage. And then they get mauled by ghost.

[B]

But. But you. But you. But you don't think that's gonna happen. I don't, but it's also not gonna happen. That's not what it is.

[A]

I'm just not. I am. Like I said, enough. There is the smallest amount of belief that is enough for me to not with.

[B]

Doesn't curse you.

[A]

You never know.

[C]

If anything, it'll tell you you have a curse, which is helpful.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And then. And then what? You got a curse. Now what do I do at Being aware is good.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, I'm aware of a curse.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's almost worse.

[B]

I mean, if you're cursed, like this guy, that's the shittiest curse ever.

[A]

They did a bad job. Yeah. Honestly, I'd be like, curse me more. Oh, yeah, because your life is so hard.

[B]

I'm not the one saying it.

[A]

Yeah, that's right.

[B]

Yeah,

[C]

I'll do one. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, you'll do it. Do it for Joe Show.

[B]

We could do.

[A]

You could do it for that. We don't need to put it on.

[B]

It's so funny that you're afraid of it.

[A]

I'm not afraid. I just don't.

[B]

You're afraid.

[A]

I just don't want to fuck with it. That's fear. Like, I'm not afraid of sharks, but I also am not gonna fuck with it if the opportunity presented itself.

[B]

You're describing fear.

[A]

No, it's not. Fear is like. It's like. Like I'm scared consistently, like, oh, avoiding. I'm not avoiding. I'm just not presenting the opportunity to be around it.

[C]

Fear is. Avoid. Fear is almost like you won't go too far in the ocean because you

[A]

don't want to see anything. I went into the ocean too far.

[C]

I said. I said.

[B]

He went up to his knee.

[A]

I went far enough.

[C]

He snorkeled and screamed.

[A]

I breathe like a bastard. Let me tell you.

[B]

I breathe like a bastard. All right, yeah, well, I'll get the tarot card reader in here. We'll just. We'll just. We'll just get someone up here, you want to know, they'll just pop up.

[A]

That would be worse, dude. I would just sit here and just be like, yo, I'm not contributing. That would be the worst episode of our show.

[B]

You're just not going to contribute. Well, you don't have to do anything

[A]

if you got a tarot card reader in here to do your cards in front of me. Fine, but I'm not just. I'll be like, yo, respectfully, keep me out of it.

[B]

This is so funny. It is, because that's like. I mean, the equivalent is like, if you got a cockroach and threw it on me. And over here you're like, don't read my tarot cards.

[A]

I just. I feel like it'd be an invasion of privacy. Like, it'd be like, don't. Don't tell me my tarot cards, dude, don't look at my cards.

[C]

It sounds like you believe pretty heavily.

[A]

Again, I believe to the point, like, if I hear it going on, I'm just like, that's nonsense. But I believe enough that I'm not going to invite the opportunity into my life.

[B]

You're afraid to learn.

[A]

Yes. Ooh, you got me. That sounds like a real number four.

[B]

That sounds like a real thing for a therapist, honestly.

[A]

Oh, no, I mean, it's not that deep.

[B]

It's not about it being deep.

[A]

It's just about, oh, I need to. This is the part of the episode on the monthly basis where you tell me I need therapy. Yep.

[B]

Not only that, but now I'm going to do something that is probably very ill advised and surprise you with the tarot card.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I thought. I thought someone was walking out right now. I was gonna be like, and here she is, Madame Zaron, terrified at that. One day you're just gonna, like, spring something upon me during an episode or some like that. No, it's like, here. Oh, you hate. You hate snakes. Well, bring in the cobra.

[B]

No, dude, I don't like snake. I mean, I'm okay with snakes, but I mean, I wouldn't want a cobra

[A]

here if I'm telling you Right now. Open that door. I'm bringing in centipedes for you.

[B]

I'm okay with centipedes, just not all over me.

[A]

I'm bringing in. I'll lock you in a pod and I'll dump a centipedes on you.

[B]

Dump a set of Petes. Okay, so no tarot cards. I'm not gonna force it upon you. Is there anything else spiritual that I could force upon you, though?

[A]

Yeah, I don't like how you're doing this, dude.

[B]

Which part?

[A]

The shoving your spirituality in me?

[B]

Yeah. No, it's ill advised.

[A]

It's not nice.

[B]

I'm asking if I can.

[A]

I don't want it.

[B]

It's not nice. Yeah, I'm not doing anything. Dude, relax.

[A]

There's two kids at school. Is trying to turn me.

[B]

Turn you into what?

[A]

A spiritual guy?

[B]

I'm not trying to make you a spiritual.

[A]

Are you in? You want someone to come in here and read your cards?

[B]

I think it would be fun.

[C]

It is fun.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I don't think it's gonna go the way you think. You think that they're gonna be like, oh, this is like, it's not Harry Potter.

[A]

I will be very aware of every, like, I twitch. They have and like, every, like, oh,

[B]

they're not gonna be like, you know, in the Harry. I just watched it the other day. But when she like, they have like

[A]

coffee cups and she's like, oh, yeah.

[B]

She's like, you've got the Black Death or whatever the. She says. Yeah, it's not gonna be like that.

[A]

You could see like, it's like in a cup of tea, you could see like some like, evil.

[B]

They're gonna flip it over and be like, oh, it's a thousand swords.

[A]

Like, yeah. And I'd be like, what the is that?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know because it sounds cool.

[A]

I'd love a thousand swords.

[B]

I do remember when I got my tarot cards read, there was one that flipped over and I'm like, like, that's sick. And she's like. And I was like, oh, okay.

[A]

Well, like, they all look like. Like they're like an old school style where, like, they look like the art, the artistry behind it is cool.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But then you like, it's like, oh, that's the maiden. And it's like, what the. Does that mean? It's not good.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I love how they're like, so random. It's like, oh, this is the eight headed woman and the wolf. I'm like, how could that. Who's even thinking of this. Yeah.

[A]

I don't know, man. I don't.

[B]

Oh, my God. You guys got the church in the albino. I'm like, what is that? What is that? How could that mean anything?

[A]

I can't believe it. It's the maiden in the pumpkin patch. You know, like that.

[B]

It's the princess and the scotch tape.

[A]

I'm like, all right, well, no way. The children amongst the school bus, like, huh? This was made in the 1600s. They didn't have school buses.

[B]

Yeah. Or like, I think also some are so boring. It's like, oh, the lily pad. I'm like, all right, I suck.

[A]

What are the Now.

[C]

Yeah, you're gonna.

[A]

There only like a 78 cards, brother.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

They look again. They're beautiful.

[C]

And there's suits and everything. There's like cups, pints, swords. Not. Oh, yeah, cups, coins, sword.

[A]

Look up. What's the best tarot card to get? Like, what is the coolest one? Best? I'm sure there's gonna be no episode.

[B]

I bet this is like how you don't do it. The sun, the Ten of cups. I got that one.

[C]

Often called the wish card.

[B]

It represents ultimate emotional fulfillment, family and domestic. Oh, my God.

[A]

This is what he's gone to therapy for. For 15 years. Give me the 10 of cups. Therapist.

[B]

I did the 10. I got the 10 of cups when I was in a coffee shop when I first started doing my first podcast.

[A]

Your first podcast? Yeah, when I did catch Cheating on me.

[B]

No, this is before your time.

[A]

My time has always been.

[B]

It was before basement.

[C]

It was bf.

[A]

Oh, I remember that. Yeah.

[B]

I don't know the hermit meaning. Yeah, some of them are just. Oh, the Hanged Man. See, that would.

[C]

See, that would scare me.

[A]

Yeah, death, like death waning. And like, they flip over and it's Baffamet. And I'm like, well, this sucks. No, no, no, it's a good one. It's a good demon card, huh?

[C]

No, because you got it third in the order. It's actually.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. It came out third upside down. So it's meaning that no one is gonna summon Paymon.

[C]

Wands. Wands.

[B]

Ah, there's some wands.

[C]

I don't. I don't know. I think it'd be cool.

[B]

They're big cards too. I like that they're big. It's kind of like magic. The Gathering.

[A]

Those were regular sized cards, right?

[C]

I think I got. I think I got the King of Pentacles.

[A]

Oh, that's a name. Because I love pens and I love tentacles, so. Good combo there.

[B]

What's a pentacle?

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

Hard work. Productive perfectionist. Yeah, right.

[A]

Hey, I think he works hard.

[C]

Look at that.

[B]

That's what you think.

[C]

This is what? This one.

[A]

Hard work. The work is drinking Jameson and ginger.

[C]

That's what happens. You know what I think Frankie would get? I'm just gonna make one.

[A]

Oh, no, no. I think Frankie would get the Click on it, right? Frank, pick one.

[C]

Oh, yeah, Frank, pick one. Oh, this is how tarot cards work, by the way.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Pretty much. Like, the one that comes out is the one like, oh, this is meant for you.

[A]

So I just Fuck cups.

[C]

Just do so, knowing nothing about it.

[A]

So what are the suits? There's wands, there's swords.

[C]

Wands. Cup swords. And pentacles.

[A]

Pentacles.

[B]

I mean, you like pentacles?

[A]

I did like the word, but let's go swords.

[C]

Swords. Okay.

[A]

Let's go. The ace of eight of swords. Because I like the number eight.

[B]

Eight of swords. Eight of swords. Let's figure out this.

[A]

Oh, this might fucking backfire.

[C]

This is in the spirit of Tarot, I believe.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't want to fuck.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

Negative thinking, victim. Negative thinking, victim and limiting beliefs, Frank.

[A]

Yo, that is insane. Yo, that's kind of. That is fucking outrageous. You mean this is what you've been doing this whole time? I don't think so.

[B]

I bought it.

[A]

I don't think so, Frank.

[B]

Negative thinking.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Limiting beliefs.

[A]

I don't think so. All right. Pick another if you're so bought in.

[B]

No.

[A]

You. Okay.

[C]

I don't. I don't know.

[A]

Let me tell you. Let me pick another.

[C]

I feel like it was. That's just.

[B]

It was too.

[C]

I'm surprised you want to pick another one.

[A]

That is crazy, bro. No. Now you got me scared. You got me freaked out, dude. That's so.

[B]

Scroll up. Scroll up.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Scroll up. Get me away from these swords. Give me the 10 accounts right now.

[B]

All right, all right.

[A]

Shut up, shut up. Page of wands.

[B]

Oh, a page.

[A]

A page of wands.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

I'm just going off the name here, so everyone shut their mouths. What does this say?

[C]

There's no way it'll be as cool as ideas.

[B]

Potential and inspiration.

[A]

Okay, now. Now who's laughing?

[B]

I'm not.

[A]

That's a good page.

[B]

What is it? So what does it say? Being. Oh, begin. A rich. I don't know. Oh, no, never mind. That's just.

[A]

It just says, like, salamanders. And in there, wearing a sweater of salad.

[B]

It represents transformation.

[C]

So you just realize that tarot could be something right now.

[A]

You're.

[C]

Now you're changing.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Got me freaking out. Not freaking out.

[B]

All right. We forced upon too much tarot.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Take your beliefs out of me.

[C]

Joe, you want to pick one?

[A]

I'll take the 10 of cups, please.

[B]

No, let me take one I've never seen before. Let's do.

[A]

Let's do three of pentacles.

[B]

Let's do the. The nine of pentacles.

[A]

Here we go. Watch this. You're gonna be a billionaire tomorrow.

[B]

This isn't good. Abundance, financial success and luxury.

[C]

All right. Right.

[A]

See, this is crazy.

[C]

You know what?

[A]

Now I'm bought in. As if this needed anything else.

[B]

We're talking about, dude.

[A]

Oh, my God. As if this. Now I'm super bought in. You know what? I'm on the. Get a tarot card reader in here just so they could tell everyone else how rich you are. You. Oh, abundance of financial growth and success. Just. Oh, fucking embarrassing belief.

[C]

All right?

[B]

And you got to do one.

[C]

Damn it. I don't want to now.

[A]

Yo, that's fucking hilarious. Oh, shit, my face. If I'm telling you right now, if this mentions alcohol, I will be fully bought in.

[B]

Or if it mentions, like, Mario Kart.

[C]

Wow. I.

[A]

Blue shells, Dodger of Bullet bills. It just says Mario Kart.

[B]

Cargo shorts, your own merch.

[C]

I just got nervous.

[A]

Shirts that say room.

[C]

I got nerfous. I don't want to pick one.

[B]

I. I was honestly nervous as fuck, too.

[C]

All right, I'm gonna go. Two of wands.

[B]

Two of wands. Two.

[A]

Lover of own merch is so fucking funny.

[C]

Please be something good, for the love of God.

[B]

Planning. Faith in the future. And delays. Oh, my fucking God. I knew you were gonna fuck something up.

[A]

Yeah, definitely not this.

[C]

Damn it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Delay.

[A]

Not. See. Planning. We are planning. We're in the middle of planning. Delays.

[B]

I.

[C]

Faith in the future. This doesn't mean from me, this means, like, it's in my future, does it?

[A]

In your future? There's faith in the future. Not you, brother. If anything, you have the opposite.

[B]

The green grass represents the potential, and the mountains represent the changes you may face.

[A]

Green grass and high challenges. Sorry.

[C]

Wait. So actually, this is actually pretty accurate.

[A]

Get the hell out of here. You get one more ant. You get one more.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

Oh. Are you going to double?

[C]

No, I don't want to.

[B]

I'm going out on top.

[A]

Yeah, brother, you got these cards are going to tell you what you already and everyone always everyone knows. Everyone everywhere already knows about you, Joey.

[C]

Holy.

[B]

That Was funny.

[A]

All right, well, there you go. We just did our tower cards.

[B]

Boom. That was hilarious. Oh, fuck.

[A]

That was good.

[C]

I was nervous.

[A]

That was funny. Can't believe it. Unbelievable.

[B]

So fun.

[A]

What a hot episode. That was like Yolanda Dumpster. Yeah, I get Yolanda Dumpster and fucking limiting. And then Joey gets just like. You know what this card says? Luxury. You're just fucking loaded, dude. You're fucking loaded. And you have the best stuff of all of the stuff. That was funny. Oh, well, I think there's a card that says you're gonna buy really cool things for your co host and his producer.

[B]

Yeah, it could happen.

[C]

Yeah, I'll find that one. Hold on. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Generosity and fight. Yeah, yeah, let's.

[C]

All right, let's fight.

[A]

Frankie, we got.

[C]

We gotta find the generosity or gift giving one.

[A]

Come on, let's work together. You know what it's gonna be. I'm tell you right now. Watch this. It's gonna be. Scroll up, scroll up, scroll up. It's gonna be the Queen of Cups.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

If this is about being generous, I'm Right now I'm fully in.

[B]

I'm not even doing an outro. If it's about generosity. Oh, my God. I got so scared just now. Couldn't be caring, intuitive and compassionate. So I have a lot of. I could care about you guys. I'm not gonna buy you anything. Damn it.

[A]

You're so intuitive of what we want, but not getting it for.

[B]

I'm compassionate of the fact that you want things.

[C]

Yeah, see, that's more. That makes sense.

[A]

But I care about not giving it to you more than I care care about giving.

[C]

See, I'm so caring for you. I don't think you should really have this. That's what it is.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, there's someone watching this episode that's so into tarot and they're screaming at their screen right now.

[B]

They're lighting candles right now. Yes. All right, well, there you have it, folks. That's our episode for today.

[A]

Tarot. Get us demonetized. Is that close enough, Tarot?

[B]

Yeah, well, about to. What?

[A]

I don't know what you were talking

[C]

about for like seven minutes.

[A]

That was. That might have done it. That might have done it. Yeah, to the. I think I specified about Joey's asshole.

[C]

Yeah, got it, got it, got it, got it.

[B]

Where can they find you?

[A]

Hopefully alive and well. You're good. And the Frank Alvarez everywhere. How about that?

[C]

And you can find me at Ant Prisco.

[B]

You follow me at Joe Santigato. Go follow the show at the basement yard on TikTok and Instagram. And that is all. See you guys next time.