12: Full Show PT 1: Thursday, May 14 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show – Episode 12: Full Show PT 1: Thursday, May 14 [Vault]

Date: May 14, 2026
Cast: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy & Bert Show Cast
Key Guests: Justin Bieber, Adam Murphy, April Becker Antonio

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Episode Overview

This episode blends signature Bert Show humor and honesty with discussions on pop culture, listener stories, and real-life topics ranging from celebrity interviews (Justin Bieber), honoring veterans, a powerful lost-and-found family story, and consumer safety in nail salons. The team keeps things lively and personal, often inviting callers into the conversation.

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Segment Breakdown & Key Highlights

1. Justin Bieber Interview — Navigating Fame and Fans

[01:01 – 07:30]

The show welcomes Justin Bieber just as his popularity is hitting new highs, creating chaos for the show with fans and parents clamoring for tickets and attention.

Key Points:

• Rapid Rise to Fame:

  • Bieber describes how much his life changed since his last visit, the difference in moving freely, and his gratitude for fans.
  • "I always think of it like, I wouldn’t be in this position without my fans." (Justin Bieber, 02:41)

• Fan Interaction via Twitter:

  • Co-hosts discuss how fans value a Twitter follow more than autographs; Bieber follows those who say “nice stuff.”
  • “That's like the new cool autograph.” (Jen, 03:47)

• Busy Schedule and Family Support:

  • Details on his hectic tour life, travel, and how his mom travels with him. He shares about his parents’ separation and ongoing good relationship with his dad.

• Golden Ticket Album Promotion:

  • Bieber teases a “golden ticket” in his album with a backyard concert as grand prize.

Memorable Quotes:

• "Do you have to wear any disguises or anything?"
  “No, not really.” (Jen & Justin, 02:25)
• “My mom travels with me usually wherever I go. But my parents split up when I was very young.” (Justin Bieber, 04:47)
• “So there’s one golden ticket in there and what do you get if you win that thing?”
  "You can have a chance to have anything in your backyard." (Host & Justin, 06:41)

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2. Veterans Day Discussion — Who’s a Veteran? The Pat Tillman Story

[09:20 – 20:22]

Marking Veterans Day, the Bert Show reflects on what it means to be a veteran, with personal stories and caller participation. This segment includes a moving tribute to Pat Tillman, a former NFL player who died in service.

Key Points:

• Definitions and Reflections:

  • Panel debates what constitutes a “veteran” (combat experience vs. any service).
  • Callers share that “anybody that has served in the military” is a veteran.

• Pat Tillman Feature:

  • The team plays a segment from an ESPN feature, focusing on Marie Tillman, Pat’s widow, discussing sacrifice, service, and the founding of the Pat Tillman Foundation.
  • “He was a very intense and thoughtful person...” (Marie Tillman, 11:53)

• Public Recognition and School Closures:

  • Callers and hosts lament that Veterans Day is not a widespread holiday, with many schools and businesses remaining open.

Memorable Quotes:

• “I do feel that the military is not respected the way they should be. It should be a national holiday.” (Veteran caller, 15:50)
• “This spirit of service and of giving back… it’s a way that Pat lived his life. So… they’re helping to further his legacy.” (Marie Tillman, 14:24)

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3. Powerful Listener Story: April Becker Antonio Reunites with Her Father

[20:26 – 33:59]

April tells her emotional story of growing up without knowing her biological father and finding him online after 30 years through a website he created in her name.

Key Points:

• Childhood Without Her Father:

  • April recounts yearly attempts to get information, persistent identity struggles, and deep emotions around Father’s Day.
  • “I mean, every year now for 30 years, I have at least one good cry every year to my mom…” (April, 23:22)

• Online Search and Discovery:

  • Ultimately finds her father through “aprilbecker.com,” where he posted an open letter hoping she’d find him.

• First Contact and Reunion:

  • A heartfelt email exchange leads to a memorable restaurant reunion (filmed by PBS), including introduction to her half-sister and new connections for her children.

• Mother’s Reaction:

  • April describes her relief that her mother is supportive, acknowledging both parents’ past mistakes.

Memorable Moments:

• Host reads the website’s text:

  • “Dear April, when you read this, please send an email to aprilbecker.com I’m your dad and I would really like to talk to you… By the way, you have a little sister and really, really want to talk to you.” (Host, 25:08)

• “We made it through about an hour of totally normal conversation… and then about an hour into the conversation, we both lost it and started crying.” (April, 29:12)

• “Thanksgiving and Christmas is going to be so amazing.” (Co-host Jen, 33:12)

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4. Are Nail Salons Safe? Hygiene and Licensing Debate

[34:11 – 46:19]

Prompted by Paula Abdul’s manicure nightmare and listener concern, investigative journalist Adam Murphy joins to discuss the safety and regulation of nail salons.

Key Points:

• Inspection and Licensing:

  • Salons are supposed to be inspected annually (rarely), with licenses for both establishment and each technician displayed.
  • “Some aren’t. And really…be your own patrol when you walk into these places.” (Adam Murphy, 34:38)

• Common Infractions:

  • Frequent violations include unlicensed workers and poor sterilization, leading to potential health risks (one cited incident resulted in a toe amputation).
  • Undercover investigations reveal lax cleaning standards and improper practices.

• Debate on Licensing:

  • A caller argues it’s unrealistic for every worker to be licensed due to language barriers; hosts and Adam push back, equating licensing to necessary safety (not just “talent”).
  • “That’s like saying being a heart surgeon, you don’t need a degree, you just need talent.” (April Becker Antonio, 46:08)

Memorable Quotes:

• “If you can’t pass the test, then you can’t be licensed. That’s the law. Then you can’t work.” (Host, 43:47)
• “A podiatrist had to amputate a woman’s toe because of a nail infection here in metro Atlanta.” (Adam Murphy, 45:05)

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Notable Quotes Table

| Time (MM:SS) | Speaker | Quote | |--------------|----------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:41 | Justin Bieber | "I always think of it like, I wouldn’t be in this position without my fans." | | 14:24 | Marie Tillman | "This spirit of service and of giving back… it’s a way that Pat lived his life." | | 29:12 | April B. Antonio | "About an hour into the conversation, we both lost it and started crying." | | 43:47 | Host | "If you can’t pass the test, then you can’t be licensed. That’s the law." | | 46:08 | April B. Antonio | "That’s like saying being a heart surgeon, you don’t need a degree, you just need talent." |

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Key Timestamps For Reference

• Justin Bieber Interview: [01:01–07:30]
• Veterans Day & Pat Tillman Tribute: [09:20–20:22]
• April Becker Antonio’s Reunion Story: [20:26–33:59]
• Nail Salon Safety and Licensing Debate: [34:11–46:19]

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Tone & Style

The Bert Show maintains its trademark blend of humor, empathy, and candid conversation. Serious subjects (military service, family reunions, personal health) are handled with respect but never lose the relatable, genuine energy that defines the show.

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Summary Takeaways

• Celebrity Insights: The Justin Bieber interview delivers a behind-the-scenes peek at young stardom, grounded by gratitude and relatable family dynamics.
• Reflection & Recognition: Thoughtful conversations honor not just military veterans, but also their families, and question societal recognition of their sacrifices.
• Listener Impact: April's search and reunion narrative is deeply moving—a testament to persistence and the life-changing power of connection.
• Consumer Advocacy: The nail salon segment highlights the importance of public health vigilance and the need for regulatory enforcement, while addressing cultural and language barriers candidly—balancing empathy and accountability.

This episode exemplifies how The Bert Show navigates between laughter, community storytelling, and real-world issues—all while inviting listeners to be an active part of the conversation.

Transcript

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[Caller or Listener]

Get it?

[Host (Burt)]

The Bird Show Hey, Justin Bieber.

[Justin Bieber]

Yo, what's happening?

[Host (Burt)]

What's going on, dude?

[Justin Bieber]

What are you guys up to?

[Host (Burt)]

Well, you've created quite a problem for us this week. Quite a problem for us this week. I mean, as soon as we get in here in the morning, all these 12, 13, 14 year old girls are calling us from 5:30 until 10 in the morning. Then their parents are begging us for tickets. An email calling us all morning long. You've turned into quite a pain in the butt.

[Justin Bieber]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Host (Burt)]

People went in on this thing so badly. Seriously.

[Justin Bieber]

I guess. I mean, Friday. I'm really excited for Friday. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

[Host (Burt)]

Yeah. Thanks for doing this for us.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

What's, what's life different like for you since you came in and did the Birch show like what, three months ago, four months ago?

[Host (Burt)]

Because in your life, you were gonna probably define your life before Birch show and after Bert show.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

Trust me, I will.

[Justin Bieber]

I mean, before the Birch show, I was kind of, like, still coming up. I mean, I'm still coming up now, but I think that. I don't know.

[April Becker Antonio]

I don't know.

[Justin Bieber]

I have more followers and it's been kind of harder to walk around.

[April Becker Antonio]

Yeah, you think?

[Interviewer or Co-host]

Can you go to the mall? Like, if you wanted to go to the mall, is it even an option?

[Justin Bieber]

I mean, I can go to. I can go to the mall when the kids are at school.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Do you have to wear any disguises or anything?

[Justin Bieber]

No, not really.

[Co-host (Jen)]

You've never done a disguise yet?

[Host (Burt)]

Not yet. Is it getting to the point now where there are so many people sort of like just, you know, that are stopping you while you're at. Where from time to time it gets a little bit annoying. Are you still cool with it?

[Justin Bieber]

I mean, I'm still cool with it. I'm. I always think of it like, I wouldn't be in this position without my fans.

[Host (Burt)]

So I don't know with any other artists I've ever seen anything like this before. I mean, there was no Justin Bieber. There were some videos, and then there was some word about this kid Justin Bieber. And then all of a sudden, just this explosion, you know, I don't know that I've ever seen a rise so quickly,

[Justin Bieber]

I think. I don't know. I've just been blessed. It's been a great opportunity. And coming from, like, a little town in Canada and then now being able to, like, I don't know, share my music with the world, it's. It's been crazy.

[Co-host (Jen)]

And, Justin, your fans are faithful followers of you on Twitter. And I've been reading emails from listeners who are begging to get into the event tomorrow. And they were saying that the cool thing for people is to have you follow them on Twitter. Is that something that you do all the time? Like, you follow your fans?

[Justin Bieber]

Yeah, I have been.

[April Becker Antonio]

I.

[Justin Bieber]

When I see fans write some nice stuff, I always try to try to follow as many people as I can.

[Co-host (Jen)]

And yeah, because they were saying like, that that is like the highlight for a teenager. If Justin Bieber says that he'll follow them. That's like the new cool autograph.

[Host (Burt)]

How many followers do you have on Twitter now?

[Justin Bieber]

I think 400,000.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

Do you want to ask him, Jen,

[Co-host (Jen)]

what if he wants to follow you? Do you want to follow me on Twitter?

[Justin Bieber]

I follow you on Twitter.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Okay. Y' all are totally Twitter hook up. Boyfriend, girlfriend.

[Host (Burt)]

So what is your schedule like over the next couple of days? Because, I mean, when you came in here and hung out, I mean, you were playing basketball. That Afternoon. You're hanging out with Scooter. Is there any of that anymore or is it like city after city after city after city now?

[Justin Bieber]

Yeah, I mean, right after this, like, I'm on my way. I'm about to go to the airport. We're finding the Lockheed, doing a show there, and then I'm flying back to Atlanta to do the Mad Men of World show.

[Host (Burt)]

That's a lot of travel. How about your folks, man? Are they here in town or how does that whole thing work?

[April Becker Antonio]

Yeah, they're.

[Justin Bieber]

Well, my mom. My mom travels with me usually wherever I go, but my parents split up when I was very young. But I mean, I still have a great relationship with my dad, but they're split up.

[April Becker Antonio]

You know what I mean?

[Interviewer or Co-host]

How's your mom holding up with the travel? Because it's obviously a lot and, you know, you're young, you're loving it, you're eating it up. But she's. She. She may just want to be home watching her. Young and the Restless.

[Justin Bieber]

She gets exhausted, but she's definitely very supportive and she. She definitely doesn't want to leave my side.

[Co-host (Jen)]

His mom's probably your age.

[Justin Bieber]

Pardon?

[Host (Burt)]

Do you know how old your. Do you know how old your mom is?

[Justin Bieber]

My mom?

[Host (Burt)]

Yeah.

[Justin Bieber]

I don't know, She's. I don't know, like, 35.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

You're older than his mom. Actually, Jeff, he just turned older than him.

[April Becker Antonio]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

How would you feel about all that travel, being exhausted?

[Interviewer or Co-host]

Why even ask that question?

[Co-host (Jen)]

Well, you just post it like, he's not a kid. He's a kid, dude. He's like a little kid.

[Host (Burt)]

His mom is 35 hertz, doesn't it? I've been there for a couple years. Welcome aboard.

[April Becker Antonio]

That's fantastic.

[Host (Burt)]

You're old. Hey, Justin, man, thanks a lot, man. On behalf of all the. The listeners over the last, what, week and a half that have been calling and trying to get in. Thanks for doing this with us and we'll see you tomorrow, man.

[Justin Bieber]

Thanks you guys. Are you guys are all gonna go get my album, right?

[Co-host (Jen)]

Of course.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Absolutely.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Like we don't already have it on itunes.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Jen's already pre ordered.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

Pre ordered it because she's trying to get the golden ticket. Jen loves you.

[Host (Burt)]

You don't understand. Like, Jen here is really digging on your music, man, in a big, big, big way.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Totally. I'm such a fan. Every time your songs come on, I crank them.

[Justin Bieber]

No, with the golden ticket, it's gonna be a lot of fun. There's gonna be like one golden ticket. You're gonna Be able to have a chance to win some stuff. So when you buy the album.

[Host (Burt)]

So there's one golden ticket in there. And what do you get if you win that thing?

[Justin Bieber]

You can have a chance to have me sing in your backyard.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Oh, dude.

[April Becker Antonio]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Co-host (Jen)]

There you go, Jen. Bragging rights forever.

[Host (Burt)]

Jen, you are so behind, like, 15 albums when they come out.

[Co-host (Jen)]

And so I can have all the teeny boppers at my house.

[Host (Burt)]

Your house?

[Co-host (Jen)]

I can host them for a big

[Co-host (Jeff)]

party and get arrest.

[Host (Burt)]

Hey, Nick, she has creepy night.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

A kegger, then get a rest.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

But you know what?

[Host (Burt)]

You don't need creepy Castleberry.

[Co-host (Jen)]

I'll hang out with all their moms while they're watching.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

Justin, you don't need to do that. Justin, next time you come in studio, will you bring your guitar and just sing a song just to Jen?

[Justin Bieber]

Yes, I will.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

There you go.

[Host (Burt)]

Cool. It's all.

[Co-host (Jen)]

You're a sweetheart and I wish you the best. I think you're great with your fans.

[April Becker Antonio]

Thank you.

[Host (Burt)]

All right, Justin, get on that plane. We'll see you tomorrow, man. Thanks a lot.

[Justin Bieber]

Thank you so much for all your support.

[Host (Burt)]

Absolutely. Bye.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

Talk to you tomorrow.

[Host (Burt)]

Peace out, Justin Bieber.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Talk to you tomorrow.

[April Becker Antonio]

Oh, he's here tomorrow.

[Justin Bieber]

Are you going to the thing?

[Interviewer or Co-host]

No, but it's like. It's just like a see you tomorrow type thing. Talk to you tomorrow.

[Host (Burt)]

How does they talk to you tomorrow?

[Interviewer or Co-host]

He said peace out. Now all of a sudden, I'm not gonna go try to stop a war. It's just a thing to say.

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[Host (Burt)]

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[Host (Burt)]

Book with VRBox, the Burt Show, Today is Veterans Day. And, you know, we were saying before that, like, back in the day, Veterans Day just felt like a day to honor old people.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Well, because the major conflicts, you know, some weren't even called wars, you know, kind of ended in the early 70s, up until the Gulf War, you know, so for a long time there, there was no wars and no true, you know, battle veterans, except your parents or your grandparents. And so it did seem like an old person's war. But now that we are in wartime, then, I mean, it's from years old all the way up is a veteran.

[Host (Burt)]

And this is. Anybody that fights in a war, I mean, is considered a veteran. If you're in the military, you are a veteran. You know, I mean. Joanna's boyfriend Jason, has he seen action and come back?

[Interviewer or Co-host]

I don't want to answer that because he's like Special Forces.

[Co-host (Jen)]

So the definition is that you have to have served overseas or in combat,

[Co-host (Jeff)]

been in combat, seen combat is my assumption. It's always been my assumption.

[Host (Burt)]

I think mine, too. So yesterday I'm watching espn, and I'm not exactly sure that this is gonna print, but I think maybe it will. You guys know the story of Pat Tillman, right? Pat Tillman was a football player that played for the Arizona Cardinals. And after 9 11, at least the legend was that he was so upset and what happened at 9 11, that he decided to give up this sort of Kush life that he had in the NFL and go and fight for the military, go to Iraq, where he lost his life. I was watching ESPN yesterday, and they had a new piece on sort of this old story. It's the first time that his wife has come out and talked about Pat Tillman and talked about all the details that led him up to going to war.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

So there's a new book out, because Cage is reading it now, a new book out depicting all not only from his career in football, from a young age, all the way up into his death and what followed his death. So that may be another reason why she may be getting a lot of questions now, because this book is out

[Co-host (Jen)]

and it was friendly fire.

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah.

[Host (Burt)]

And the military tried to hide that for a while, which we'll talk about here in these pieces. But as I was watching it, I thought, you know, there's a lot of stuff in here. If you just take Pat Tillman's name out of it and you just listen to the words of the wife. I think there's a lot of stuff to learn here about military families and what they have to go through on a day to day, and I hope it's still in this story. So this was on ESPN yesterday and we'll play it in two parts and they're not very long, but I still think it's very appropriate for Veterans Day.

[OnDeck Announcer]

As Pat Tillman was inscribing the remarkable arc of his life into American history, his wife Marie was his soulmate.

[Marie Tillman or Narrator]

He was a very intense and thoughtful person and, you know, he was the type of person who in the off season would be bored, so he would do triathlons or marathons and he was working towards getting his master's in history. So he was pretty intense.

[OnDeck Announcer]

He could have accepted a big offer from the Rams prior to the 2001 season, but instead he took a smaller deal to remain with the team that had drafted him.

[Caller or Listener]

Today, our fellow citizens, our way of

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

life, our very freedom came under attack.

[Marie Tillman or Narrator]

It was a Tuesday, which is their day off, so he certainly, you know, stayed and watched a lot of the coverage.

[OnDeck Announcer]

On September 12, 2001, Pat was asked about the meaning of the US flag.

[Host (Burt)]

My great grandfather was at Pearl harbor, and a lot of my family has given up, you know, has gone and

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

fought in wars, and I really haven't

[Caller or Listener]

done a damn thing as far as

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

laying myself on the line like that.

[Marie Tillman or Narrator]

I don't think that September 11 changed him necessarily, but the circumstances of what was going on in this country changed so much that he reacted to that.

[OnDeck Announcer]

Pat Tillman enlisted in the Army Rangers along with his brother Kevin, reporting for duty. On July 8, 2002, Pat Tillman was killed in action. He was 27 years old.

[Host (Burt)]

So he could have continued to play in the NFL and make a million dollars a year, but he decides, no, that's not for me. My grandfather served, my dad served, and I got to do something about it. And like Jen said, he was killed in friendly fire. And the military never quite came clean on that whole thing. And that's where the controversy begins.

[OnDeck Announcer]

Pat Tillman had been killed by friendly fire.

[Marie Tillman or Narrator]

It was about a month after he had been killed. So I was still sort of in a numb place.

[OnDeck Announcer]

It took years. But moment by moment, details of Pat's death did emerge, along with evidence that the army and the US Government had participated in a cover up after his death.

[Marie Tillman or Narrator]

For me, in dealing with his death and sort of my grief process, I have channeled it into the foundation and I am really focused on our military veterans and their families and working on that.

[OnDeck Announcer]

Since late 2004, the Pat Tillman foundation has offered scholarships to Foster a spirit of public service and leadership in action. This year, the foundation is providing $642,000 to 52 military scholars.

[Marie Tillman or Narrator]

This spirit of service and of giving back and is something. It's a way that Pat lives his life. So it's in that way they're helping to further his legacy.

[Host (Burt)]

As I was watching that yesterday, I thought it was just really sort of kind of a. It's just kind of a snapshot. You don't have to be an NFL player. Could be a. There's a lot of people that had bright college futures that decided to give that up to serve also. But that story gives you just a little peek into the sacrifices that both are made by those that enlist and those in the family also, that you don't think of except on dates like this. Hey, Mike. Good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller or Listener]

Hey, good morning. How's you guys doing?

[Co-host (Jen)]

Good.

[Host (Burt)]

How are you?

[Caller or Listener]

Good. Hey, I just want to let you know, a veteran is a veteran. Is anybody that served in the military. Not necessarily someone has seen action that's just a combat veteran.

[Host (Burt)]

Okay.

[Justin Bieber]

Okay.

[Caller or Listener]

So just. Just Veterans Day. Is anybody that has served in the military.

[Host (Burt)]

Gotcha. Are you a veteran?

[Caller or Listener]

I am in the marine Corps in 1992-1996.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Thank you.

[Host (Burt)]

Thank you. I had a thought this morning. Do you feel disrespected at all in the fact that schools, like, public schools are in today? It's not sort of a national holiday. Is there any way she.

[Caller or Listener]

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off.

[Host (Burt)]

No, go ahead. I think I made my point. It's just like, I thought, like, on a day like this, it should be sort of a day everybody should have the day off.

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah, I actually, I am, you know, because, you know, we don't celebrate. We don't really have a day off President's Day anymore like we used to. It used to be George Washington's birthday. Now it's just President's Day. And I do feel that the military is not respected the way they should be. It should be a national holiday. And, you know, I don't want to get anything started, but there's other holidays that are celebrated at the national holiday. The banks are closed, schools are out, whatever. And, you know, and that's for one particular person. And the military covers so many people, so many generations, and I don't think that they're celebrated the way they should be.

[Host (Burt)]

Yeah, I had the same thought this morning. I was thumbing through the ajc, and it gives you a List of the things that are open and the things that are closed. And I was really surprised by how much stuff is open today.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

The only thing that's closed are post office and banks. Really?

[Host (Burt)]

Yeah.

[Caller or Listener]

I just feel like, as a whole, you know, the military is never really looked at as a part of society except for this one day a year now. For me, you know, I started celebrating yesterday because it was the Marine Corps birthday yesterday. So I celebrated yesterday. And just getting the whole thing started. When I say celebrated, it's not like we had a big party or anything, but just talking to some old friends that I served with that I don't see now because we live in different states, but we keep up with each other on Facebook or MySpace or whatever. But we started talking to each other yesterday about the whole situation.

[Host (Burt)]

Yeah. Without. I just had this thought, and it was a fleeting one this morning. Like, without the military then and protecting our freedoms, then there is no opportunity for a Martin Luther King Day. There is no opportunity for a President's Day or anything like that without the military.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Well, what I was gonna say is I don't think that it's necessary to compare holidays, saying we should have one without the other. I don't think it hurts us to have an additional to reflect on, because that's what the holiday is for. Memorial Day, you're supposed to reflect, you know, Labor Day, you're reflecting, you know, Martin Luther King Jr. Day, you're supposed to be reflective of what that time in history was about and reflective for the meaning. So why can't we just have an additional day of reflection for Veterans Day? I don't think you have to compare and take a one holiday away. That seems silly.

[Host (Burt)]

Trait. Hey, Mandy. Good morning.

[April Becker Antonio]

Hey, how are you?

[Host (Burt)]

Good. How are you doing?

[April Becker Antonio]

Fine. Hey. My father actually was his official retirement day from the army on 29 October, and he served 47 years in the army after graduation from West Point. That's one of 1500 men and women to actually serve more than 45 years.

[Host (Burt)]

Wow.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Good for him.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Congratulations.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Yes.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Thank you.

[Host (Burt)]

That is really some feet right there, man. Hey, Erin, good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Justin Bieber]

Hi.

[April Becker Antonio]

Good morning. I just wanted to say thank you

[Justin Bieber]

because, I mean, here lately they have.

[April Becker Antonio]

But most people don't recognize that the military family serves, too. And my dad's currently deployed to Afghanistan right now.

[Host (Burt)]

Oh. Yeah.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

I just. I think that. I think historically, I mean, I think as human beings, unless we're personally involved, we don't think about it. And I think there used to Be a time when every single man served in the military. So it wasn't. You couldn't get away from it. Every single guy was a vet. And you know, we don't have a draft enlisted. It is still volunteer based. And so that's why now you don't have every single man and woman being in the military. So I think, I'm not justifying it, but I do think it's human nature. Unless you're a daughter or a son or a wife or sister or family member of a military person or you won yourself, you're not thinking about it on a daily basis except for days like this. So it is important to have this day so everybody can remember and think about it. But I, you know, I can see why there are those that don't think about it. And that's the point of the military, is so people don't have to worry about it.

[Caller or Listener]

Right.

[Host (Burt)]

You know, isn't that the irony of the whole thing? That's a tough life. That's a tough life for a lot of military families. You know, dad goes away or mom goes away or husband or wife goes away for six months. They protect the country and then they come back here and they're supposed to come back to this life that's just supposed to, you know, life goes on and it's, it's very, very difficult for the whole family to adjust when they get back. You know, it's a sacrifice for the whole family anyway, so I guess it is Happy Veterans Day. Although it sounds strange.

[April Becker Antonio]

Yeah, sounds weird to say happy.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Well, congratulations to all the veterans because not every military person is having a rough time. So it is happy Veterans Day. And everybody, you know, should be proud of their involvement in any branch of the military. And you know, and you're honored today it's about sacrifice.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

The bird show. The bird show.

[Host (Burt)]

Hey, April.

[Justin Bieber]

Yes.

[April Becker Antonio]

Good morning.

[Host (Burt)]

Good morning. I'm so glad we got in touch with you this morning. I love your story.

[April Becker Antonio]

Well, thank you.

[Host (Burt)]

Now, I haven't told. There's about half of the staff here that has zero idea who you are or what this story is. So can you sort of piece it together for them?

[Co-host (Jen)]

Okay.

[April Becker Antonio]

Well, basically my name is April Becker Antonio, but I've always gone by Antonio, my stepfather's name. And I've never met my real father. And I'm 30 years old, so I've gone through 30 years my whole life. I have two kids and I just met my father for the first time a week ago.

[Host (Burt)]

Oh, there's so much more to it than that there's so much more to it than that.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

Well, I think you have to go. When you were not with your father, at what point did you start, did finding him first start to interest you?

[April Becker Antonio]

Well, I'd always been looking for him, but I just didn't have a whole lot of information. So I just had bits and pieces, fragments. I knew his name and I knew how old he was, and that was about it. I had no idea where he might be living or if he was even living, if he was alive or dead, or if he had done something good with his life or if it was a total jerk off. I just. I didn't know.

[Host (Burt)]

And what were the details of the initial separation?

[April Becker Antonio]

Well, I don't have a lot of information there. I basically, after many, many years of questioning, I just say, you know what, it's not really any of my business why they separated. My issue is obviously, of course, the fact that they both handled it poorly. They, you know, they shouldn't have allowed whatever differences they had to get in the way of, you know, a child knowing both their parents, no matter what he may have been like or what she may have been like.

[Host (Burt)]

So essentially what happened is your mom and your dad were going through some really, really, really tough times. And your mom, I think she just decided to split one day with you and didn't tell dad about it, right?

[April Becker Antonio]

That's correct. Well, they got a divorce. They did get a divorce and they were legally married, but for whatever reason, she thought that it was best to just leave.

[Host (Burt)]

And this was what year?

[April Becker Antonio]

I was two months old, so 79.

[Host (Burt)]

1979. Okay, so she's been without her dad for this long and you've been trying to track him down for how long?

[April Becker Antonio]

Well, since I. Since I realized that I had a father. I didn't know that my stepdad wasn't my real dad until I was about five years old.

[Host (Burt)]

Okay.

[April Becker Antonio]

And then he had told me one day that he wanted to adopt me. And for, you know, a five year old, that was traumatic because I had no idea what that meant. Then I thought I was an orphan, and I was just very, very confused. And then I understood what, you know, what he was talking about and, you know, started asking questions and basically never got any real answers. And I would go. I mean, every year now for 30 years, I have at least one good cry every year to my mom saying that, you know, I love you and you did a good job and I'm not angry anymore at either one of you, but I would just. I need to know who my father is. Because growing up as a child, if you don't know that, you have serious identity issues.

[Caller or Listener]

Sure.

[April Becker Antonio]

It's not like knowing, you know, who your dad is and he's, you know, you know, a bad person or whatever you deem to be, you know, not good. You know, you don't have any idea. And so you start to wonder about yourself, like, do I get this from my father or is this, you know, genetic? Because now having kids, they do things that I haven't taught them, and I'm like, wow, they get that from me. And, you know, there's no teaching some. Some kinds of things like that. So I just would always wonder. I mean, it definitely affected my relationship with men and how I handled, you know, those situations. Any kind of movies where there's a happy, you know, father, daughter moment. I'm a mess. It was very, very, very, very hard for me. Very hard.

[Host (Burt)]

You were trying and trying and trying to find him. Yet about five, six days ago, you tried one thing you hadn't tried just yet, and it worked. And what was that?

[April Becker Antonio]

Well, I googled his name looking for April. I had never. I did his name on a search and of course, you know, everybody Googles their name, but my name for forever has been April Antonio. And I never thought to Google April Becker. And so I just, I googled this day, Scott Robert Becker, looking for April. And boom, this website popped up. Aprilbecker.com wow.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Really?

[April Becker Antonio]

It's still up right now because people are very interested in the story. And so I haven't changed the website or anything. It's still as it was that day that I found it.

[Host (Burt)]

Do you know the exact verbiage on that website or should I read it?

[April Becker Antonio]

You can read it.

[Host (Burt)]

This is right [e-mail] and it says April Joy Becker. Dear April, when you read this, please send an email to aprilaprilbecker.com I'm your dad and I would really like to talk to you. When I get your email, I will ask you a couple of questions that only you would know so I can filter out the crazies out there. By the way, you have a little sister and really, really want to talk to you from dad, Scott Robert Baker. That's it. That's all that was on the website. And how long ago did he post this website?

[April Becker Antonio]

Seven years ago.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Wow.

[April Becker Antonio]

I want to know the exact date because I did a whois.net under that domain name. And the. I think it was like June 28, 2002.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Wow.

[Host (Burt)]

Isn't that Crazy. So you go ahead and you Google that, and Aprilbecker.com comes up and you're reading those words. If there was a camera on your face, what did your face look like at that point?

[April Becker Antonio]

I was bawling. I was bawling. The catch here is that I knew that it was me. I knew that it wasn't any other April Becker because of the fact that my birth certificate says J O Y. But one of the little stories that I got growing up was that they had had some argument over how to spell middle names. And so it should be J O I, after my father's favorite aunt. And so not very many people. I mean, there's like, probably. Well, now there's more. But there was, like, three people on the planet Earth that knew that I spelled my name J O I, even though technically on my birth certificate it's J O, Y. When I saw the website, you'll see it's spelled both ways, right? And I knew. I knew it was me. So I must have cried for three hours straight. The feeling of, he's actually looking for me, too.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

How long did it take from your email to him to him for him to respond?

[Justin Bieber]

A week.

[April Becker Antonio]

Can you believe it? I checked my email probably 50 million times a day for a week. I tried searching him down other ways because then now that I knew who he was and the state, I could narrow it down a little bit. And so I think I emailed probably five or six different email addresses that I could find for him.

[Host (Burt)]

You got to keep in mind, probably seven years ago, he was probably checking that email address just like you are every six minutes or whatever. But now we're seven years removed.

[April Becker Antonio]

And I guess apparently there's other people out there. If you saw my credit score, you wouldn't want to be April Becker, but apparently there are some people pretending to be me. He had lost quite a bit of money on, I guess, fraudulent April Becker.

[Justin Bieber]

Yeah.

[April Becker Antonio]

Could you imagine that? So that's why. I mean, his first email to me was pretty coarse. It was just, you know, what's your mother's maiden name? And are you feeling green? And if you're my daughter, you'll know what I'm talking about. And I responded, of course I know

[Caller or Listener]

what you're talking about.

[April Becker Antonio]

My birthday, St. Patrick's Day. I'm a St. Patty's Day, baby.

[Host (Burt)]

So you knew immediately. So isn't that awesome?

[Co-host (Jen)]

Unbelievable.

[Host (Burt)]

So you write back, you know exactly who he is, and you're the right person. And then immediately. Do you guys exchange phone numbers?

[April Becker Antonio]

He Said, oh, my goodness, could it really possibly be you? He says, I will if you're, you know, I will not. Well, my first email to him was, I hope this isn't a scam. I'll feel really bad if it is, because, you know, my name is April Becker Antonio, and I think you might be my dad. And I'm really looking for him and have been for a very long time. And if this is a scam, that would really, really be disheartening. And so he had responded back, no, this isn't a scam. I just need to ask you some questions. And so then once we got that out of the way, he was like, I can't believe that this is really you. Can I give you a call? And he waited maybe about 30, 45 minutes. I gave him my cell phone number and we chatted. We made it through about an hour of totally normal conversation. Like it was any regular two people talking that had known each other for a while. And then about an hour into the conversation, we both lost it and started crying.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

That's awesome.

[April Becker Antonio]

That's incredible.

[Host (Burt)]

Isn't that an amazing story?

[Co-host (Jen)]

So after the first phone conversation, have you guys been able to see each other?

[April Becker Antonio]

Yes, actually. He came out here and flew out last restaurant on Wednesday, and we met up at Chops restaurant in Buckhead. And I had no idea at the time, but he sent the limo for me, got me flowers. He collects penguins, so he got me a big, giant stuffed penguins, yet I have no idea what you like. So this is it. And PBS was actually there to film it, and I had no idea they were going to be there. So I'm very glad that I dressed up. Then after that, it kind of. The story kind of caught on. People are really liking. And so we spent every day together until Sunday. We went to New York and the Today show flew us up there to do the Today show on Saturday morning. His grandchildren have really taken him, especially my daughter Brooke. They are just getting along fabulously. And after he left, she said, you know what, Mom? He was a very good friend to me. Sweet.

[Host (Burt)]

He must be just ecstatic now also. I mean, he's been searching for since 1979.

[Co-host (Jen)]

That's unbelievable. So on the flip side, how does your mom feel about you guys reconnecting?

[April Becker Antonio]

Well, I was very concerned and I. It was hard for me because, you know, we talk every day. She's my best friend, and I had to until I actually talked to him because I wasn't going to tell her about the website till I had, you know, Made some confirm that it was him. And so after we did talk, I talked to her about it. She said, hey, you know what? He was looking for you. He found you. That's the way it should be. And I'm happy for you because she knows, she knows that after all this time, it's, it's not gone away because I mean, I think I did the annual boo hoo maybe three months ago, you know, and so she knows that it hasn't gotten any lesser with any time. And you know, a lot of time has passed. I think after 30 years, anybody's capable of changing and you really have to kind of take it at face value and, and you know, so she's, she's okay with it, which is really makes it easier all the way around, right? They've spoken on the phone as a matter of fact. I think that they actually just met up. It turns out that they live about two hours away from each other and I think they actually met up yesterday for the first time face to face. I don't know exactly how that went. I'm sure I'll get the scoop tonight. But they, they are okay. They're talking about, you know, their daughter and you know, what do with me. So. So it's good, it's good she's not freaking out. And that was a concern of mine because, you know, they both made mistakes. He didn't have to pay for it, but my mom did because she had to go through all my teenage years and all that kind of stuff. So, you know, she has been fully part of it and she did a good job with me. I love her very much.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Is your mom still married to your stepdad?

[April Becker Antonio]

No, he died actually. Unfortunately six years ago.

[Host (Burt)]

Okay, well, this is an. I mean, it's an amazing story. I mean, the joy that you must have felt when you saw that. I mean, so many questions must have been answered at that point, like, oh my God, he really does want something to do with me. He just didn't forget about me. And then for it to go from there to where it is now, it's just an awesome story.

[Co-host (Jen)]

And she has a little sister too,

[Marie Tillman or Narrator]

according to the website.

[April Becker Antonio]

Oh, yes, yes. Her name is Katie. We've texted a few times. I think she's having a heart. She's a senior in high school. She's 17 and she's been an only child for 17 years. She knew about me, but then she's taking it a little harder than it was.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Yeah, only children.

[April Becker Antonio]

They're kind of weird, aren't they?

[Host (Burt)]

Jeff. Well, thank you. We know you're totally and completely busy this morning, and we know you're gonna get hounded by a whole bunch of people that want to talk to you. But, I mean, this is a Georgia story. This is out of Noonan now. So thanks a lot for hanging out and talking to us.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Congratulations.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Yes. Merry Christmas. Early, right?

[April Becker Antonio]

Yes.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

Or maybe Happy Thanksgiving.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

That's the family feast time.

[Host (Burt)]

Chen, think about how Thanksgiving and how Christmas is going to be for them now.

[Co-host (Jen)]

That is so amazing. And he's got grandkids he never met. So many neat things about that.

[Host (Burt)]

So back in 1979, April's mom takes off with April, and dad has no idea where they went. Seven years ago, he posted aprilbecker.com just these words. Dear April, when you read this, please send an email to aprilaprilbecker.com I'm your dad and would really like to talk to you. When I get your email, I will ask you a couple of questions that only you would know so I can filter out the crazies out there, which we found out there are a whole bunch of crazies.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

I don't understand the motivation behind contacting

[Interviewer or Co-host]

him when he knows, send me money and I'll fly out there.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Weird.

[Host (Burt)]

By the way, you have a little sister that really wants to talk to you from dad. And she was sitting there and she realized it was her, and they reunite after all this time.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Oh, my gosh.

[Host (Burt)]

And then an awesome story.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Chill bumps everywhere.

[Host (Burt)]

Totally awesome story. The Burt show. You're on the Burt Show. So Jen brought this to our attention like, a week ago, man. Nail salons started to freak her out a little bit.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Well, nail salons have always freaked people out. And you guys remember when Paula Abdul had that thing where she almost, like, lost her thumb because of an infection, and that was an infection that she got at a nail salon that was not using, you know, hygienic tools to do the manicures and pedicures. And so I think it's on women's minds a lot, especially if you're somebody like me who has to have the mani and pedic done.

[Host (Burt)]

Hey, Adam, for the most part, are they safe, are they clean? Or do you really gotta know where you're heading?

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Well, I mean, it's just like anything. And we talk about restaurants on this show. Some are, some aren't. And really, I think the best advice is to be your own officer or your own patrol when you walk into these places, because there are nine board members on the state board of Cosmetology. All right. And they're all appointed by the governor. There are not that many inspectors out there. And the state tries to go and inspect these places on a regular basis, which, if you're lucky, is once a year. So you've got to be your own advocate when you walk into these places and be looking. And if you see something, of course, you've got to go to the state board of Cosmetology and let them know so that they can send somebody out to check it out.

[Host (Burt)]

But there's no rating system like there is in restaurants.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

There's not a number score or a letter grade score. No, I mean, they go in, they do an inspection, and that inspection is posted right when you walk in. It should be on the wall in plain view. When you walk in a salon and you can look at it and it's got a list of 28 things they're looking for. Everything from cleaning the supplies to making sure that everybody is licensed. And they go down this list. And if you're in violation, then you get fined. And, you know, I found a couple of places this week, and I pulled some of the most recent inspections, and one of them in particular was fined over $2,000 because they had several different infractions when the inspector actually walked in. So, you know, you should look for the inspection when you walk in, you're not going to see a letter grade or a numerical score.

[Host (Burt)]

What are the infractions that they could get busted for?

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Just looking at some of the infractions that are on the list. Like I said, they want to make sure that the place is currently licensed. They want to make sure that the people working there are properly licensed. And there's a pretty lengthy process. They have to take exams and things like that in order to get the right license. And that's one of the infractions I see come up often when I look at these inspections at nail salons are people that are working there without a license. And if they don't have a license and you know you're getting a mani pedi or whatever, that's kind of a concern as far as I see it, just because these people should know exactly what to do, especially when it comes to sanitizing the utensils and stuff like that. And if they're not licensed, they may not know what to do to actually make sure everything is safe.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Or when it comes to waxing.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Yes.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Because a lot of these places do waxing treatments, and you don't want anybody.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

I've had that done before, doing Your

[Co-host (Jen)]

brows that can come in close to your eye with hot wax. That's not licensed. Right.

[Host (Burt)]

So what are you supposed to do? Have you heard each individual say, let me see your license?

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

No. They should all have a license also posted on the wall when you walk in.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

What is that license?

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

So you can ask their name.

[Co-host (Jen)]

They each have them on their desks.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Yeah, a desk. Or on the wall or whatever. Right. When you go in. So you'll see the inspection, and then you should see a license not only for the establishment, but for each individual that is there. Each technician should have one. And it's either on the wall, like I said, or like Jen said, on their little desk wherever they're doing it.

[Co-host (Jen)]

And it kind of looks like a driver's license, but a little bit longer, like the size of a check, and their picture is on it. Okay, so you can tell if they're the one whose license is sexual.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

Yeah, as long as you're in one where all the employees don't look the same. Here's good to go.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Here's another thing that I would suggest, too.

[April Becker Antonio]

What?

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Did I miss something? I wasn't paying attention.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

Well, I'm just saying, usually you go into the nail salons. I think the one Jen goes through, and you have a whole staff of all people from the same country, and they all have long black hair and they're all skinny and.

[Host (Burt)]

And they all look the same if they're not from our country. Is that what you're saying?

[April Becker Antonio]

Yes.

[Host (Burt)]

All right, Hannity.

[Justin Bieber]

Gotcha.

[Host (Burt)]

Really?

[Co-host (Jen)]

You are really winning friends today.

[April Becker Antonio]

Wow.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Don't.

[April Becker Antonio]

Don't make me.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

You are mad about being old.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Today's Jeff wants hate mail date.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

I'm mad about Jen for bringing it up. I'm fine with being old as long as none of us acknowledge it.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Sorry, Adam. Hey. Welcome.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Welcome.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Thank you.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Where was I? Oh, yeah, I got a great suggestion, though. You can actually go online and look up the Secretary of State's website. So just Google that. Secretary of State's office in Georgia. And if you look around, you can actually look up the salon that you go to to see if they have an active license. You can also find out the most recent actions taken by the Board of Cosmetology. So there's a lot of good information on their website if you just want to check the background of the place that you go to.

[Host (Burt)]

Would you do that? Let's say you sit down, right? You go to your mani pedi place, right. You sit down at a station or whatever, and the woman that's Just about to work on you, doesn't have a license, would you have the guts to get up and go to somebody else?

[Co-host (Jen)]

That would be uncomfortable in that moment. It would be uncomfortable. But I think at my place, I know the owners, so I think I would just pull the owners aside and talk to them about it and have them, after you switch the person before

[Host (Burt)]

or after you got it done?

[Co-host (Jen)]

Before.

[Host (Burt)]

Before.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Yeah.

[Host (Burt)]

Okay.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

Yeah.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

I've never.

[Co-host (Jen)]

But I wouldn't tell them directly. I'm not good at confrontation like that.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

You're a roach experience gent. I've never heard of that in restaurants, but I've heard that perhaps the roach

[Interviewer or Co-host]

was trained to sterilize the utensils.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Possibly they needed some additional help.

[Host (Burt)]

Right.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Roaches are just nasty.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Yeah, they're very nasty. So let me tell you about a couple of these that I pulled real quick. Like, for example, there was. Well, there were several violations at a place that is in Snellville. It's called City Nails and Spa. And they are on Scenic Highway. And they actually were fined over $2,000. They had folks that were working there that were not properly licensed. Actually, two of the six people working in that salon did not have a license. They were fined $500 for not properly cleaning the utensils and disinfecting them. I looked up and did a little research.

[Co-host (Jen)]

I'll give you an infection.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Yeah. And I did some research on that to find out what do they have to do to make sure everything's properly disinfected. The deal is this. They've got to. They can do it several ways, but they can take the utensils and soak them in like a hospital grade disinfectant. But they got to do it for at least 10 minutes. And they can also use the autoclave, which looks like the little toaster that we talked about. And then they're supposed to, after every single person, properly clean out the little bowl where you put your feet. And they've got to thoroughly clean it. And between each customer, the techs that are working there must wash their hands. I don't see a lot of that happening. You know, when I go and even question these places or send somebody in undercover to investigate. I don't know about you, Jen, or, you know, Melissa or Wendy. When you guys go in there, I don't know what you see, but they should be doing this. It should be cleaned, you know, and you should be getting.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

I don't pay attention.

[Co-host (Jen)]

I've never paid attention that way.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

I'll tell you this. We did an investigation. A couple of months ago, we went undercover to a place near Sidney Marcus called Nail First. Interestingly enough, our undercover camera caught a woman, she worked there. She took out of the little bucket of utensils, a couple of some of the utensils or whatever, and started filing her toes, cleaning her toenails. And after she was done, she just dropped it right back in the bucket. Did not actually go and clean the stuff. We caught that on camera. It just goes to show.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

And she's doing her own feet.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

She was doing her own feet? Yes. She didn't have a customer, so she, you know, grabbed the stuff.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

It's called practice. Out of the bucket. It's called practice practicing on her side. Her skills.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Yes, yes. And a couple of other places I was going to tell you about, too. In fact, this place is called the Nifty Nails and it's on Coming highway in Beaufort.

[Host (Burt)]

Did they spell nifty correctly or is it with like two e's at the end?

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

No, we got it correctly.

[Host (Burt)]

Okay.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

The F was backwards.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Well, they had three different people working there that were not properly licensed. And the board of cosmetology issued cease and desist orders on those three individuals. So three of the techs that were working there, not properly licensed. We found this also at a couple of other salons like Azar Salon in Atlanta on north Fulton Drive. They had a nail tech working unlicensed at their salon as well. And then I found another one at Anna Nails, which is in Fayetteville on Glenn Street. A nail tech working without a proper license. So it seems to happen.

[Host (Burt)]

Julie here wants to defend the unlicensed mani Petty technicians. Hey, Julie.

[Justin Bieber]

Hey.

[Host (Burt)]

Hey.

[Justin Bieber]

Yeah, I just think it's not really realistic to get everyone in license. Some of them cannot actually go to an American whatever and get licensed. I think it just takes talent. Maybe they can have a class where they get taught how to clean or whatever. But to get all of them licensed, honestly, you're not going to get that.

[Host (Burt)]

I'm not sure what your point is. They can't get licensed. For what reason?

[Justin Bieber]

Not all of them. Every specific person can get licensed in a nail shop.

[Host (Burt)]

Why?

[Justin Bieber]

Because it. I think it takes time. There's a reason why there's not a lot of American nail salons. So, you know, we do need to be a little bit realistic with these. With the people, you know, that are more talented in this area, but not mandatory that everyone in there, you know, license. Because they're not. They're not going to, you know, they're not Going to meet that requirement.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Why? Is it because they can't speak, like, the language or understand what the exam says?

[Justin Bieber]

Not all of them, but some of them actually cannot speak the language? Yes.

[Host (Burt)]

Well, then if you can't pass the test, then you can't be licensed. That's the law. Then you can't work.

[Justin Bieber]

Okay, well, they keep working. I mean, even if we don't want them to work, they keep working there. Somebody's gonna hire them if I have a salon, because they have the, you know, ability to do it. But the thing is, they can have

[April Becker Antonio]

classes where they get taught.

[Host (Burt)]

That's where she wanted to curve. That's where she wanted to curve.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

She was cussing. She was kind enough to censor herself.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

I'm confused by her remarks.

[Host (Burt)]

I think what she's saying is it's not realistic because a lot of people that work in the salons don't speak English. So they can't pay the test, so they can't pass the tests.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Well, yeah, if you're too bad, you know, everybody's in the same game.

[Interviewer or Co-host]

Your law or whatever.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Yeah, everybody's playing the same game. So, you know, it's not fair if some people are exempt and others aren't. I mean, if you're doing this as a career and you are actually dealing with other people and their health and not, you know, you don't want them to get infections, and you need to be able to pass the exam and play by the rules, as I see it.

[Co-host (Jen)]

And a lot of women get those acrylic nails. You've seen those, right? I mean, and they are, like, working on your hand with, like, a drill bit.

[Host (Burt)]

It's a sharp tool, man. They're cutting you open. It's like it almost could burn your skin. If they burn your skin.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Yeah. If they don't do it correctly, it could really, really hurt you.

[Host (Burt)]

All right, Adam, as we wrap up it up, what else do we need to know?

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Okay, well, coming up, actually, Monday, November 23rd, I've got another investigation I'm working on actually on CBS Atlanta News about this. And interestingly enough, I gotta tell you this. I talked to a local podiatrist. He told me that he had to amputate a woman's toe because of a nail infection here in the metro Atlanta area. And the thing is, he's looking for her chart to try to find this lady. I would love to talk to this lady. If anybody knows of someone like this that's had something as severe as a toe being amputated, it's really not a laughing matter or another serious infection. You have got to contact me. Please let me know because we want to hear your story. We want to investigate some of these salons. So it's pretty simple. You email me. You can do that. Adam.murphybsatlanta.com or even easier, just hit me up on Facebook. I'm now on Twitter and the Twitter name is AdamGetsAction.

[Host (Burt)]

Why don't we put all that information up on our website?

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

Sounds good.

[Host (Burt)]

Q100ATLANTA.com hey Blaze, we've got about 15 seconds here. What do you got?

[Caller or Listener]

No, I just got a problem with the lady that just called in about saying that it just takes talent.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Uh huh.

[April Becker Antonio]

I mean that's like saying that a heart surgeon, you just have to have talent to be a heart surgeon. That you don't, you know, it's okay.

[Caller or Listener]

You don't need a degree or anything.

[Host (Burt)]

Shouldn't make any sense there.

[Adam Murphy (Investigator/Reporter)]

You don't have to convince us, right?

[Host (Burt)]

We're on your side on that one. This is the Birch Show.