13: Full Show PT 2: Thursday, May 14 [Vault]

Summary

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The Bert Show – Episode 13: Full Show PT 2: Thursday, May 14 [Vault]

Date: May 14, 2026
Cast: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, and the full Bert Show crew

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Bert Show is packed with authentic, humorous, and occasionally raw conversations. The crew navigates a mix of listener drama, interviews, and candid looks at their own relationships and lives. Centerpieces include a group call-in “takedown” on a controversial local stripper, a "closure" segment where a woman tries to understand a date that ghosted her, a behind-the-scenes Twilight cast interview, and an emotional look at dating pressures—especially for women.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. The Nicole Forrester/Delilah Controversy

Timestamps: 01:01 – 14:00

• Background: Nicole Forrester (aka "Delilah") has alleged a one-night stand with actor Josh Duhamel. Her story, and the way she wrapped motherhood into her narrative, triggered pushback in the Atlanta exotic dancing community.
• Guests: Star and Morgan, long-time strippers and former colleagues of Nicole, call in to vent and defend their profession.

Key Discussion Points:

• Reputation Takedown: Both callers (Star and Morgan) accuse Nicole of being manipulative, unreliable, and damaging to the reputation of responsible workers in their industry.
• Parental Critique: Star is particularly enraged that Nicole invoked her children for sympathy in interviews. “She’s got some nerve to mention her children,” says Star. “I am a single mother. Thirteen years I’ve been in the business... Not all of us are like Nicole.” (02:21 — Star)
• Industry Damage: Star and Morgan argue that Nicole’s actions (both the alleged affair and reported substance abuse) reflect badly on all exotic dancers, complicating the ability to make a living honestly. “These girls that are selling their souls are ruining the business. There was a time… when I used to go home with at least fifteen hundred dollars a night. Now, you’re lucky if you get 2 or 300.” (08:34 — Star)
• Personal Allegations: Accusations arise about Nicole's supposed history of cutthroat behavior, targeting clients, and being unreliable as a parent—"This girl is known for calling customers' wives,” Star claims. (05:48 — Star)
• Industry Rules: Morgan highlights unwritten professional codes, such as not interfering with married clients, emphasizing pride and boundaries in the community.
• Notable Quote: “Nicole is the scum of Atlanta, and everyone in the dance community knows it.” (08:34 — Star)
• Crew Take: The show acknowledges the strong, even “character assassination” tone of these calls but affirms that multiple people have voiced similar accounts.

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2. “Closure” Segment: Jill & Russ

Timestamps: 16:13 – 29:16

• Scenario: Jill had a seemingly pleasant first date ending back at her house but heard nothing from Russ after. The Bert Show mediates by calling Russ for “the real reason.”
• Russ’s Explanation: Russ says he discovered a child’s bedroom in Jill’s house—filled with Barbies and bunk beds—which Jill never mentioned. He felt odd that she didn’t tell him about having a kid (though, notably, Jill’s niece lives there part-time, not her own daughter).
• Debate:
  • Should single parents (or guardians) disclose immediately on dates?
  • Was Russ snooping by going upstairs?
  • Is it too soon to bring a first date home?
  • Does not mentioning children equate to dishonesty?
• Jill's Clarification: She clarifies it's her niece's room (niece stays a week each month)—no children of her own. Some co-hosts are suspicious of Russ’s “curiosity” (a.k.a. snooping).
• Emotional Honesty: “If she was able to give the kid up for adoption, would you call her?” jokes Katie, poking fun at Russ’s discomfort. (23:26 — Katie)
• Bottom Line: Both parties are glad for clarity but have no interest in pursuing anything further. The audience gets a sense of the real awkwardness and missteps that happen in modern dating.

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3. Twilight Cast Interview: Jamie Campbell Bower and Eddie Gathegi

Timestamps: 30:37 – 44:41

• Context: Fresh off the hype for the Twilight franchise’s next film, the crew welcomes Jamie (Caius of the Volturi) and Eddie (Laurent) for a lively, behind-the-scenes chat.
• Career Impact: Jamie and Eddie reflect on the intensity of the fanbase, privacy loss, and career decisions post-fame.
• Transition to Fame:
  • Eddie: "For me...we started this because of the craft… If it becomes more about the fame and less about the work, then I'm going to take a step back.” (42:49 — Eddie)
• Managing Privacy: Jamie is adamant about personal boundaries: “Why should they [celebrities] have to come out and talk about it? I don't see it's anybody else's business. I'm sorry I get so agitated.” (40:43 — Jamie)
• Humorous Moments:
  • On fan enthusiasm: "Thongs being thrown on stage...that was singular, though, the actual event." (38:31 — Eddie)
  • On instant family: "I have a lot of extended family now, it seems." (39:42 — Jamie)
• Industry Insights: They explain how the Twilight books provide ample character cues and discuss behind-the-scenes preparation.
• Memorable Quotes:
  • “If you just study or just take what [Stephenie Meyer] wrote in the paper, you’re halfway there.” (36:38 — Eddie)
  • "Everything is in the four books already written." (37:05 — Jamie)

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4. Dating Patterns and Pressures on Women

Timestamps: 46:02 – 55:39

• Amanda’s Struggle: Amanda calls in, frustrated that her relationships never last beyond 6-12 months. She wonders if she’s doing something wrong.
• Societal Pressure:
  • The group discusses how women often tie self-worth to relationships, due to tradition, peer, and family pressure.
  • “Wouldn’t you rather be 35 … and end up with a guy that’s right for you for the rest of your life, than 28 and have a divorce behind you already?” (51:35 — Host)
• “Relationship Report Card”: The show offers Amanda (and listeners) a chance to get honest anonymous feedback from exes in hopes of gaining insight—sometimes brutally honest, but often clarifying.
  • “If you want to try that, it’s a gutsy move...listening to all those guys has got to be tough.” (54:04 — Host)
• Self-Acceptance: Show expresses that sometimes, you're not doing anything wrong—just haven’t met the right match.
• Notable Quotes:
  • “Women define themselves as more important in a relationship than out of one. More so than guys do.” (53:03 — Jen)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Star on Nicole Forrester: “Nicole is the scum of Atlanta, and everyone in the dance community knows it.” (08:34)
• On Rust’s Discovery: “...there was a point in which in the evening she went into the other room...she has a kid's bedroom...and she never mentioned having a kid.” (19:19 — Russ)
• Jamie Campbell Bower on Fame: “Why should they [celebrities] have to come out and talk about it? I don’t see it’s anybody else's business.” (40:43 — Jamie)
• Eddie Gathegi on Acting: “We started this because of the craft…I mean, that's what we're doing. We didn't seek fame.” (42:49 — Eddie)
• Show's Signature Realness: “Women define themselves as more important in a relationship than out of one...more so than guys do.” (53:03 — Jen)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Nicole Forrester segment: 01:01–14:00
• Jill & Russ “Closure”: 16:13–29:16
• Twilight Interview: 30:37–44:41
• Dating Pressures/Amanda’s Call: 46:02–55:39

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Episode Takeaways

• Real talk, real people: The Bert Show leans into authentic, sometimes uncomfortable moments, allowing listeners and guests to air their truth—whether it’s a feud between strippers, a dating mishap, or the stresses of Hollywood fame.
• Relatable Drama: The show stays grounded in issues of relationships, reputation, and the struggle to find love and acceptance—making it a staple for those needing a bit of company and candor to start their day.

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Transcript

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[Host (Burt Show)]

Bird show. And I think Starr here has two agendas. First, I think she was listening to Nicole Forrester here over the last week.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

You mean Delilah?

[Host (Burt Show)]

Delilah came on with us and she was the stripper.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Not that Delilah, honey. Delilah opposite.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

That's a sweet, clean cut Delilah from

[Host (Burt Show)]

Tattletales that alleges that she had a one night stand with Josh Duhamel and, and some people believed her story, others did not. So I think Star here, I think she's got two agendas. And the first is that she knows Nicole and she's got a strong opinion about Nicole and she also feels like Delilah slash Nicole Forrester sort of disrespected the stripping industry.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Okay.

[Host (Burt Show)]

So she wants to defend that as well. Hey, Star.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

Hi.

[Jill (Caller)]

How you doing?

[Eddie (Actor)]

Good.

[Host (Burt Show)]

How are you today?

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

I'm doing well.

[Co-host (Jen)]

All right.

[Host (Burt Show)]

All right. So when you were listening to Nicole Forrester last week, what were you thinking as you heard her words?

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

Well, to be honest, it made me more and more angry the more I listened. You guys pretty much nailed it on the head like you said. I know one of you in there said you were staring her down.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Yes, Jen, give her comfortable for all of us.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

That would make her very nervous and she would stomp out that quick if some if she was under that pressure. But the thing that really is bothering me is when she mentioned her children. She has some nerve to mention her children.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Okay, now for those that didn't hear, Nicole has two kids. One I think is 13 and one is 10. And the children did not know that she stripped. And she was really upset that the story came out now. And this is the way the kids found out. Is that what was bothering you?

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

Well, what bothers me even more is the fact that I am a single mother. 13 years I've been in the business. I worked for the phone companies during the day and in the clubs at night. Not all of us are like Nicole. We're not out to. You know, Nicole's been waiting for Josh to come along for 15 years. And if it wasn't Josh and it was someone else, it would have been the same thing.

[Host (Burt Show)]

How do you know this?

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

Because that's her character. I mean, straight off. Like, I've worked with her for years. We've been in situations where I've gotten, you know, customers to give me, you know, a lot of money and say, hey, bring a girl. I'll bring Nicole. She'd be the first one to cut your throat. She will tell your own. Your Customer, give me 800.

[Morgan (Caller)]

Give her two.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

The people in the business that know Nicole, I've known her for over 10 years, they know the same thing. They stay away from her. It's so bad that customers will call in to see if she is working before they will even come in. And they will be like, well, sorry, star, you know, I'm gonna have to come later if Nicole's there.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Really?

[Host (Burt Show)]

But even if that's. Even if what you're saying is true, and you guys work together, and she just really has this nasty reputation, and let's just say that she did target Josh as soon as he walked in there. And I think none of us believe this story that she didn't know who he was. Let's say she did, right? Let's say she did. But that doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

And you know what? I actually was with a friend of mine that is acquaintance to Nicole. I don't talk to Nicole. I was in the car with that friend in October, and when she got a phone call stating that Nicole was dating Josh from another acquaintance. In our little group, we have probably about 10 or 15 girls that have been in this business for, like, 15 years. And, you know, we kind of end up having to be around these girls. We don't have a choice because we're in that environment every night. You know, did Nicole, you know, meet Josh? And, you know, as far as going to the point of sleeping with him, I wouldn't doubt it. But if Josh has any brains he would have seen that this was a problem when he first met her. Unless she hit it. She's very slick. She may have, like, been subdued around him and not shown him her true self, but just to get in the door. But before she even went to his hotel, I had already heard that she was dating Josh.

[Host (Burt Show)]

I see now they didn't. They didn't. That's not part of her story. It said it all happened within 24 hours.

[Jill (Caller)]

No, it's exactly.

[Katie (Co-host)]

It was a period of time.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

No, it never happened between 24.

[Morgan (Caller)]

She met.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

She met him. And then that's when I got. When me and my girlfriend were in the car, got the phone call, like, oh, you know, you won't believe this. Delilah is dating Josh, Fergie's husband. I'm like, oh, great. This poor man. The first thing I thought, I even said it out loud in front of my friend. Does he even know what he's dealing with?

[Host (Burt Show)]

This is the first time publicly that's been said. You might have known something behind the scenes. We didn't. But she never said that. Yes, she did.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

That was a couple of weeks. I don't remember that.

[Host (Burt Show)]

I thought it happened really fast.

[Katie (Co-host)]

No, she didn't.

[Amanda (Caller)]

Oh, I said that.

[Katie (Co-host)]

She said on the air that he came into the club and got her phone number. They traded messages and texts and phone calls.

[Jill (Caller)]

And.

[Katie (Co-host)]

And then I think it was two weeks later that he called her and told her to come to the St. Regis.

[Host (Burt Show)]

I don't recall that at all.

[Katie (Co-host)]

Yeah, she said that, and that's how it was reported in the inquiry.

[Host (Burt Show)]

So in those two weeks, you say that you knew that there were text messages and flirting and quote, unquote, dating.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

I didn't know all the details. All I knew is in October, the end of October, my girl. I was with a girlfriend of mine, which is my best friend, knows. Knows Delilah very well also for many years. And she got the phone call stating that, oh, you won't believe it. Delilah's dating Josh Dumas. Like, oh, does this man even knows what he's got himself into? This girl is known for calling husbands, you know, calling customers wives. You know, things of that nature. She's known for being dirty like that. And it's just sad that she's the first one out of all of the girls that I know that are good girls that raise their children. She's never even. I've never even seen her. I've seen her with her son once in 10 years.

[Host (Burt Show)]

So you feel like she threw the. She threw the parent card out there just to protect herself is what you feel.

[Amanda (Caller)]

Yeah.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

I'm looking at some of these headlines, and they're making me sick. All American mother. This other one headline says stripper that half stripper that happens to be. I mean, I'm sorry, It says stripper that happens to be a mother. No, you're way off. She, you know, well, stripper. It says stripper that happens. My mother that happens to be a stripper. Know your way off. This is a stripper that happens to be a mother. I've only seen her children once, and I've had. I've been with my girlfriend once again. Like I told you, I don't deal with Nicole because the way she is, she's, you know, a party girl. And, you know, the good girls don't really hang too much with the party girls. We try to stay away from them because they're cutthroat, they're dirty, and they

[Morgan (Caller)]

will stab you in the back.

[Russ (Caller)]

Quick, here's.

[Host (Burt Show)]

You're not the only one to call up and say this this morning. For whatever reason this break is. It is assassinate Nicole's character. Break.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

Just about a couple years ago, I was with my same girlfriend, and we were in the car, we were going out, and she got a phone call stating that Nicole was arrested in the movie theater with her children.

[Host (Burt Show)]

For doing what?

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

Being completely drunk. And the manager of the theater. And like I said, I wasn't there and I didn't see it myself, but I sure heard the phone call come in, like, up. Delilah's in trouble. What happened? Oh, she's at the movie theater. She got arrested. The manager of the movie theater found, you know, felt said that she was way intoxicated with her two children alone, and they came and arrested her. You never had her children? She's never even had her children. And it angers me. Thirteen years I've been raising my son alone, without a father and struggling through life, and I can't even go back in the club and make any money because of girls like these. I have quit for two years now. I saved my money and bought a club. And now I'm in a. I'm in a situation where I would love to be able to go back in and make money for my son. That's 13, you know, that knows. Well aware of what I do, and I'm very proud of it. I've never done nothing. I've never sold my soul. And these girls that are selling their souls and ruining the business. There was a time 10 years ago when I used to go home with at least fifteen hundred dollars a night easily.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Wow.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

Now, now you're lucky if you get 2 or 300 because you're fighting girls. You, you know what you, what we used to charge for, for private dances has gone down three times in the past, you know, like three times the amount. Now, I've been here, like I said, a long time. My godfather owned a lot of clubs in Atlanta, you know, so I've been in the industry many years. The real wives have nothing on us. The real housewives in Atlanta have nothing on us. We live the street life, and Nicole is the scum of Atlanta, and everyone in the dance community knows it. And it's just really sad that she has a nerve to bring up her kids.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Hey, Star, let me pause you for just one second because here's Morgan. Hey, Morgan, good morning. You're on.

[Morgan (Caller)]

Good morning.

[Wendy (Caller)]

How are you?

[Host (Burt Show)]

We're not done with star yet. Go ahead, Morgan.

[Morgan (Caller)]

I had actually, I was driving last week to meet a client and almost drove off the road. I got into the middle of the conversation that you were having, but I recognized the voice and I thought, oh, my God. And then when I heard the end of the story, I actually called the show and left my number with you and never heard anything back. I danced with the cheetah for four years, and I also worked with Delilah. And I totally agree with Starr. I know Starr as well, and we totally avoided her because this woman, first of all, does not care about her children at all. And any money that she does make, particularly anything she makes, goes straight up her nose from noon on. I just don't understand how she even. She has given any kind of exotic dancer such a bad name in the Atlanta area. I was involved with the gentleman, and he has more notoriety and more money than this other gentleman. But I never crossed that line, and I was not out to destroy his marriage. He was married. I never crossed that line. That's an unwritten rule in this business. You just don't do that.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Well, I'm assuming she felt like she. She thought that she hit the lottery.

[Morgan (Caller)]

She. Well, that was what she was looking for. She had nowhere else to go. She cannot get a job in any other club in Atlanta. I don't know what happened to her at her previous club, but that's why she's at tattletales. And of course, tattletales been. They're loving this because they're going to exploit her for as much business as they can get now because she's been all over the news Y' all are

[Co-host (Jen)]

angry at her, man.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

You hate her.

[Morgan (Caller)]

I am embarrassed. I am so embarrassed for us. Those of us that are good people, those of us that were taking care of our families, that we were. I am in real estate, and I danced at night to take care of my daughter. You know, I'm not a bad person. And like Starr said, there are those of us that never crossed that line, that we woke up every morning and we could look in the mirror knowing that we didn't do anything.

[Jill (Caller)]

Mm.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Let me. Let me ask you to a question. Um, because you talk about how she didn't, you know, we focus on her kids, and she did.

[Morgan (Caller)]

She used the parent card up front. Her attorney.

[Wendy (Caller)]

Right.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Well, let me ask.

[Russ (Caller)]

So, well.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Well, let me ask. Plain devil's advocate. Let me ask. Because she had said they didn't know what she did for a living. So let me just pose the question. Is the reason y' all didn't see her with her kids because she didn't expose her kids to the clubs?

[Morgan (Caller)]

No, she was too busy partying and screwing everybody in town and like Star said, screwing everybody else out of money. Those of us that sit for a thousand dollars an hour and don't do anything. Anything. Then you get somebody like Delilah that will screw anybody for God knows what amount of money. She thinks $20,000 is a lot of money. That is a drop in the bucket.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Star, you agree with that?

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

Oh, yeah. I've made that in one night.

[Host (Burt Show)]

You made $20,000 in one night?

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

Yes.

[Host (Burt Show)]

One night.

[Wendy (Caller)]

You must be really good. Talented.

[Host (Burt Show)]

What did you do on that night?

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

I had a customer that had come in. He was intoxicated and was very sick, and he had a lot of money. And he just was like, look, I don't care. I just want to go somewhere private. You know, he hand me his credit card, and he's like, just take care of me so that I, you know, I don't make a mess all over the place. And I took care of him for, like, four and a half, five hours. I tip my waitress good on top of whatever. He tipped my waitress. And, you know, you can make good money. These people, when they feel like they can trust you, they will give you whatever you need to survive, you know, and succeed. Succeed in life. It's just girls like this are destroying the industry. We can't even go in and make money anymore.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

When you said that your client was sick, he was throwing up because he was so drunk.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

And so he paid you that much money? Just take care of him. So he Wouldn't be embarrassed in front of people.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

He was very well known in the entertainment industry, and he didn't want to be seen like that.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Okay, got it. That makes sense.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Now, I'd have paid $20,000 for somebody to protect me on Big Wicked.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

But you know what? The assumption of the normal human being is to say, hey, something was going on.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Hey, Star, I hate to cut her short, but we got to take off here. So basically, what you're saying here is be really careful about any words that are coming out of her mouth, because as far as you know, this is not a real credible source.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

She's never going to be credible.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Do you think she slept with Josh Duhamel?

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

I think if they did sleep together that night, Josh knew all about her as far as her drug habits and stuff, because it's very hard to hide. You can look at her and tell she's all messed up, but Josh should have been more careful. You're in that industry. Talk to the manager. Talk to a girl that you seem seems really cool. That'll help you out, you know what I'm saying? And push you in the right direction to stay away from people like Delilah. And these clubs need to stop hiring these girls. Get the good girls back. You know what I mean? Let's make some money.

[Host (Burt Show)]

All right, Star, thank you for your time. Appreciate it.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

Thank you. Y' all have a good day.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Yeah. She needed to say that.

[Wendy (Caller)]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Jen)]

She's awesome.

[Katie (Co-host)]

She's.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

She was thinking about that for a long time.

[Katie (Co-host)]

She has said that to a lot of people close to her a lot. She has lost friends over that.

[Host (Burt Show)]

That girl needed to be hurt. It's the Virt show.

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[Host (Burt Show)]

n. You're on the Burt Show. All right, so these were Jill's words yesterday to us.

[Jill (Caller)]

We had a really great time last Saturday when we decided to have dinner, but it was kind of loud in there and we wanted to talk and decided to, like, just go back to my house because.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Did you guys do it?

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

No, not at all.

[Jill (Caller)]

Actually, I got an emergency phone call from work. I went into the other room maybe for like 20 minutes at the most.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Okay, so how. What was the last thing that was said? Like, how did the date totally end?

[Jill (Caller)]

Well, he kissed me and said that he would call me and that we would, you know, get together.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Now, Jeff and I both thought initially that it was just too fast, too soon. Like, she called us by Wednesday morning, so it was really just Sunday, Monday, Tuesday that had gone by because they hung out Saturday night. So I don't think it was that crazy that he hasn't called her.

[Katie (Co-host)]

And was there any exchange on Sunday or. No exchange.

[Co-host (Jen)]

I just thought if it was, he left at 10 o' clock on a Saturday night. I thought, he's not interested unless he

[Host (Burt Show)]

realized that he wasn't going to get everything that he wanted. Thought, okay, you know, I'll cut the night short tonight and we'll try this again next week. But there's been no other call or

[Wendy (Caller)]

he saw something in her apartment or she's just a bad kisser or something happening.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Hey, Jill.

[Katie (Co-host)]

Or his Wife came back to town

[Host (Burt Show)]

or something like that. Hey, Jill.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Hello?

[Katie (Co-host)]

Hello, Jill?

[Host (Burt Show)]

Hello, is this Jill? Hey, how are you?

[Jill (Caller)]

Good, good.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Okay, you've had 24 more hours to think about it. You have any idea what he might say here in a couple of seconds?

[Jill (Caller)]

Oh, no. I'm curious though.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Is she gonna be listening? Like she's gonna be on hold, right?

[Host (Burt Show)]

Yeah, she won't be. They won't have any interaction together because. Yeah, well, he won't give us the truth if he knows you're on the line. So what we'll do here is we'll put you on hold, we'll talk to him, and then we'll get you back on after he hangs up so we get total honesty from him.

[Jill (Caller)]

Okay.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

My stomach hurts for you right now.

[Wendy (Caller)]

Sometimes you just don't want to know

[Host (Burt Show)]

the truth at all.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Just.

[Co-host (Jen)]

She does.

[Host (Burt Show)]

You sure you want to know?

[Jill (Caller)]

Yeah, you never know. I mean, it's better now than never, right? Or later.

[Amanda (Caller)]

Yeah.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Okay, well, let me put you on hold. Okay. And we'll talk to you in a second.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

She got confused on the same.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Because she's as nervous as you said

[Co-host (Jeff)]

she is, so it's worth more than that.

[Katie (Co-host)]

Larry, you're being inappropriate.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Okay, so here. His name is Russ. Hey, Russ.

[Russ (Caller)]

How's it going?

[Host (Burt Show)]

Good. How are you today?

[Russ (Caller)]

I'm fine. How are you?

[Eddie (Actor)]

Good, good.

[Host (Burt Show)]

First, thanks for coming on with us. I understand. It's awkward, for sure.

[Russ (Caller)]

You know, being on a radio is kind of cool though,

[Katie (Co-host)]

to be honest with you, it's really overrated.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Jill is not on the line, so you can speak freely. And really, just what she's looking for here is just a little bit of closure because she thought everything went great on Saturday night. And then as of yesterday, Wednesday, she hadn't heard from you. Not a text, not an email, not a call. And she's just going over the date and she's like, what did I do wrong here? So I don't make the same mistake again. So can you kind of fill us in?

[Russ (Caller)]

Yeah, I mean, nothing went wrong. She's good. She's great. She's a great girl. But I don't know, I mean, I've just. I guess I've just been busy these past couple days. I've been staying at my parents house. There's been, you know, with the rain, their house got a little bit of flooding. So I've sort of been helping them with that. And there's not really. There wasn't anything wrong with Jill. I just. I mean, I don't know I guess. I don't know. I guess I'm not going to be calling her back because I kind of feel she wasn't that honest with me. About what, frankly. Well, I guess there was a point in which in the evening she went into the other room to deal with something I think was work. And she has a kid's bedroom and she never mentioned having a kid. And, like, the bedroom is completely decked out for a child. And, I mean, I don't have a problem with kids, but I kind of feel odd that we went an entire evening without her once mentioning that she had a child.

[Co-host (Jen)]

And if she doesn't, that's even creepier.

[Russ (Caller)]

Well, I mean, there's a story that should go with it or at least some sort of, you know, explanation. If we're going on a date and it's going well, I think that she owes me that sort of explanation or just to give me the option to have an opinion about it.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Now, that's. That's an interesting take because we've talked about this on the air before. Like, if you're a single mom, let's say, then when do you. I mean, you've got. You guys haven't even gone through a whole first date yet. So when is she really obligated to bring up that she has a child? Is it the first date, is the fifth date? Or is it when you walk into her house and you're obviously going to see the room?

[Jill (Caller)]

She's.

[Russ (Caller)]

She suggested that we go back to her house, you know, and I feel like she should have said it if that was what she wanted to do, because she knew I would probably see. I mean, it's a kid's home.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

I agree with that. Because if they had just been out to dinner twice and maybe it hadn't come up yet, and then it comes up on the third date, I wouldn't fault her as much, but if she's bringing somebody back to her place, you gotta tell.

[Co-host (Jen)]

I agree.

[Wendy (Caller)]

And she doesn't have any roommates, right?

[Russ (Caller)]

She was.

[Wendy (Caller)]

She doesn't have any roommates, right?

[Russ (Caller)]

I mean, again, she didn't mention anyone living in the home with her. So I don't. I don't know if she had a roommate. I don't. I don't. I mean, I didn't know she had a kid. So who knows if she has a roommate?

[Host (Burt Show)]

What exactly did you see in that room that was just a tip off that, okay, this is a child's room.

[Russ (Caller)]

You know, pink and Barbie dolls and a bunk bed and, you know, yeah, generally. I mean, that could be her room, but then that's a whole other problem.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Because if you'd said, like, Star wars toys and stuff like that, I'd be like, well, now, that's not necessarily a kid. But the Barbie thing. Yeah. I don't know many adult women that have the Barbies out.

[Host (Burt Show)]

And how did you see that room? Were you just heading on over to a bathroom or something and you passed that same room and looked in or what?

[Russ (Caller)]

Well, yeah, I mean, I went upstairs and went to the bathroom and then there was a couple doors open, so I just sort of peeked my head in and.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Oh, I would have done the same thing.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Snooping around just a little bit.

[Wendy (Caller)]

You have to be nosy.

[Russ (Caller)]

It was a bit. Maybe a bit nosy, but it was more just curious.

[Jill (Caller)]

Okay.

[Russ (Caller)]

You know.

[Host (Burt Show)]

All right, so the fact that she didn't.

[Russ (Caller)]

I just. I don't know if I'm ready to deal with somebody who wasn't honest about that from the beginning.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

I understand that that's awkward.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Outside of that, did the date go well? I mean, if you would have never laid eyes on that room and never had an idea that there's a child involved, would you have called again over the last couple of days?

[Russ (Caller)]

Yeah, I probably would have. I mean, it's been busy with my family, but I mean, I would have. I was intending and calling her anyway tomorrow or the next day, but when I got a call from you guys, I just sort of held off.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Well, isn't it the truth, like, if you're really, really super into somebody, though, you just hit him with a text or something over, like 48 hours?

[Russ (Caller)]

Yeah, I mean, usually it's the next day or two, so I guess I'm not that interested.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Okay.

[Katie (Co-host)]

If she was able to give the kid up for adoption, would you talk?

[Host (Burt Show)]

Would you call her?

[Co-host (Jen)]

I know Katie's looking.

[Host (Burt Show)]

All right, Russ, we'll let you go. Thanks for coming on and thanks for being honest. Appreciate it, man.

[Russ (Caller)]

Yeah, of course. Thank you, guys.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Okay, dude, thank you.

[Russ (Caller)]

I appreciate it. No problem.

[Host (Burt Show)]

All right, bye. Bye. All right, Jill's back on with us. Hey, Jill.

[Jill (Caller)]

Hi.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Hi. So we just got done talking to Russ. Like, you heard, I'm sure. And he said the fact that he was at your house and he saw this bedroom that was obviously decorated for like a four or five year old girl that he assumed was your daughter was really sort of turning him off and that the fact that you never brought it up.

[Jill (Caller)]

Yeah, I. I don't have kids, and I just can't believe I don't know. My sister is a flight attendant, and I take care of her daughter and my niece, like, a week out of the month.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Okay.

[Jill (Caller)]

And for him to have gone and seen that room, he would have had to have gone upstairs into my house and, like, passed the bathroom and seen that.

[Co-host (Jen)]

So he had to go out of his way to go to that room.

[Katie (Co-host)]

Was the door open?

[Jill (Caller)]

This is so wild.

[Katie (Co-host)]

Was the door to the room open or closed?

[Jill (Caller)]

It might have been. I figured it would be closed, but it might have been cracked.

[Host (Burt Show)]

I think what he said was he passed it on the way to the bathroom, but he did say it was upstairs. So is there a bathroom downstairs also he could have used?

[Jill (Caller)]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Jen)]

So he went upstairs and went down the hall too far, and he was big time snooping.

[Wendy (Caller)]

Yeah, but I would have done the same thing.

[Host (Burt Show)]

You would have gone upstairs.

[Wendy (Caller)]

I can't blame him.

[Host (Burt Show)]

You wouldn't have gone upstairs.

[Katie (Co-host)]

No way.

[Host (Burt Show)]

You might have snooped through, like, the medicine cabinet or something, but you would have walked upstairs.

[Katie (Co-host)]

If the bathroom to use is downstairs,

[Co-host (Jeff)]

you would not know there was a bathroom downstairs. And I went upstairs. I've done that before at a friend's house that was having a party. I walked around the downstairs and couldn't find a bathroom, so I went upstairs to use the bathroom. If that was the. The case, like, I would have definitely looked around.

[Wendy (Caller)]

And depending how long she was on that phone call, it might have been more than 20 minutes. I would have walked around. I got bored.

[Host (Burt Show)]

I think while you're on that phone call, he took the time to go and snoop through the house.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Well, we can get it back on and ask him.

[Host (Burt Show)]

I guess we could, but either way, it doesn't matter.

[Katie (Co-host)]

That's shady.

[Jill (Caller)]

I mean, unless he was trying to find out where my bedroom was or something. But still, I don't think I want.

[Katie (Co-host)]

Were you in here? Didn't you say I went into my bedroom? So he knew where your bedroom was.

[Amanda (Caller)]

Yeah, I know.

[Jill (Caller)]

I mean, whether he was. I don't know. I don't know why he was trying to get. I mean, my. I don't know.

[Morgan (Caller)]

Yeah.

[Host (Burt Show)]

So either way, like, if we got him back on right now, would you be interested in even having a second date with this guy now?

[Jill (Caller)]

Not so much. I'm really glad that he was honest, I guess, about that, but he just made a lot of assumptions, and that's. That's wild.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Well, and now with the whole radio thing, and it's just gonna be weird now it's awkward. Call it

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

so.

[Jill (Caller)]

I don't know him anyway or any of his friends. So it doesn't matter.

[Katie (Co-host)]

Right.

[Host (Burt Show)]

All right, so the bottom line is not your child, it's your niece. And he was either snooping through the house. Jen, I think the scenario that you painted about going up to use the bathroom cause you couldn't find the one in the bottom floor, maybe 2 percentile of people would do that. I would search bottom of the house.

[Katie (Co-host)]

Now, I would understand going upstairs, but if there's a bathroom on the first floor, I'd look for it. And if you have to walk past.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Yeah, I'd look for it first.

[Katie (Co-host)]

Okay, but if you have to go upstairs and you use the bathroom and then you have to walk past that bathroom and open a door that's either closed or cracked and look in there, that's no way could you imagine bringing somebody, a first date over to your house. And what if she steps out of the bedroom and she's like, hey. And he's like, oh, hey, up here. Up here. It's just creepy.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Yeah, I think that was a mistake, actually. Jill Overall was taking him back to your place so early.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Well, I mean, that's for her. That's for her.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Well, I'm just saying, like. I mean, that dude's a stranger.

[Host (Burt Show)]

I mean, how many times does this happen in Atlanta? Every weekend? A million times.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

I don't know.

[Host (Burt Show)]

I'm not saying it's safe.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

I don't know.

[Co-host (Jen)]

On a first date.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

On a first date. I just think that, like, telling some guy where you live and all that

[Host (Burt Show)]

stuff right away is dangerous.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

I don't think that's smart.

[Jill (Caller)]

Well, I have friends in the neighborhood. I mean, they knew that someone was over, so I guess I felt comfortable in that sense, like. And I don't think I wouldn't have invited him over if I didn't get the sense when I was at dinner initially with him that, you know, he wasn't, like, he didn't seem like a good guy. And, well, I don't know.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Here's Katie. Good Morning. You're on Q100. Hi.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

Hey. I just wanted to find out why he didn't just say something before he left the house.

[Jill (Caller)]

I mean, you know, he saw the room.

[Katie (Co-host)]

Because you'd have to admit to snooping.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

Well, yeah, it's a natural thing.

[Katie (Co-host)]

No, it's not.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Not to go upstairs. It's not a natural thing.

[Amanda (Caller)]

Okay, so why did he get kiss

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

her and tell her he'd call her later? Why wasn't he just an honest man

[Jill (Caller)]

and say, well, he's A dude.

[Co-host (Jen)]

He's a guy.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

Exactly.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Well, women do the same thing. Give me a break. Women do the same thing. If you don't have a good first date, you don't go, hey, thanks a lot, but this didn't work out for me.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

I would.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Well, you're very. It's a rare exception. Well, that's true.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Yeah. Most people aren't confident to do that in person to somebody. They barely know you. You leave all those rude comments for when you date somebody for a long time.

[Host (Burt Show)]

All right, Jill, we'll let you go. At least you got closure on the whole thing. It's, you know, it's not going to work out for whatever reason.

[Amanda (Caller)]

Thanks a lot, you guys.

[Host (Burt Show)]

All right, thanks for calling.

[Eddie (Actor)]

Bye.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Bye. It's the vert show.

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[Host (Burt Show)]

This is the bird show. The last time y' all were so excited about Twilight, we had a kid on the show named Taylor Lautner, and nobody had heard about this kid, but we all. You know, I heard that this movie's gonna be pretty hot and all. So we'll give this Taylor Lautner kid a shot, right? This was him a couple years ago.

[Morgan (Caller)]

I remember my agent telling me, you

[Russ (Caller)]

know, this thing, this thing has the Potential of being big. And I was like, really? I've never heard of it before in my life. And yeah, as soon as I was

[Morgan (Caller)]

cast is when I read the first

[Russ (Caller)]

book and I was like, wow, it's a great story. This could be cool.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Do you have any fear at all that now, because this career of yours is going to be propelled and you're going to be so in the spotlight now, you're a target for paparazzi. You can't go anywhere because of cameras. I mean, this is going to be your life. I think Saturday morning.

[Russ (Caller)]

Really? You put that in a scary way, man.

[Morgan (Caller)]

Well, we'll see.

[Russ (Caller)]

I mean, I never really thought about it like that.

[Host (Burt Show)]

I don't know if he was just playing naive there or what.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

I think he was really naive or I think so.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Or just being humble.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

I think he was really naive.

[Host (Burt Show)]

I think he was too.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

What this movie did to propel him to be such a superstar now. And yeah, I think he had no idea. Like these guys in studio with us.

[Amanda (Caller)]

Yeah.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Jamie and Eddie are in here. How are you? Well, you have an idea? Eddie's been in the in. He was in the first movie.

[Eddie (Actor)]

Yeah, but it doesn't happen overnight. I think that's what he was shocked about. Your assessment. I think it takes a couple of nights.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Two nights, three nights, 72 hours before. How are you today, Jamie?

[Katie (Co-host)]

Before we get too far into the interview, can we just remind Wendy that Melissa has a broken foot?

[Host (Burt Show)]

I asked, why is that?

[Co-host (Jeff)]

I asked, sitting in the middle of

[Wendy (Caller)]

these two boys, because I wedged myself in between two hot guys.

[Host (Burt Show)]

That was no accident.

[Wendy (Caller)]

And I look and Melissa's calculated move.

[Katie (Co-host)]

She's in the corner of the room leaning against the wall, looking very pitiful.

[Co-host (Jen)]

She asked and I said no. She asked, and I'm going to be the ultimate wing woman. So I said no, honey, you stay there. Get in the middle.

[Host (Burt Show)]

It's playing out right here. Vampires, wolves.

[Wendy (Caller)]

I'm living everything out in my fantasies right now.

[Co-host (Jen)]

She's in a vampire sandwich right now. She's good.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

I love it.

[Wendy (Caller)]

I'm not complaining.

[Host (Burt Show)]

You guys must be.

[Eddie (Actor)]

Right now, right?

[Wendy (Caller)]

This is it.

[Eddie (Actor)]

It's a pretty tame fantasy.

[Wendy (Caller)]

You know what? The dreams continue on after this.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Oh, damn.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

I'm just kidding.

[Host (Burt Show)]

She's ready to go.

[Wendy (Caller)]

I'm good. I am content.

[Host (Burt Show)]

How you guys, this must be a whirlwind for both of you guys right now. Is it city after city type thing?

[Jamie (Actor)]

Yeah, yeah, it's. It's pretty crazy. Pretty tiring, but having lots of fun now.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Jamie what role do you play in the new movie?

[Jamie (Actor)]

Caius. He's one of the leaders of the Volturi.

[Host (Burt Show)]

And Eddie, this is not your first rodeo. You were in the first one. And your character.

[Eddie (Actor)]

I play Laurent. I reprised the role of Laurent.

[Jamie (Actor)]

Yeah.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Do you. At some point, do you. Because this is gonna be Jamie's first Twilight movie. Is it? At some point, being a Twilight veteran, do you pull him aside and do you go, dude, let me tell you what's in store for you over the next couple of weeks or months or whatever.

[Eddie (Actor)]

Well, not necessarily, because this kid has quite a resume. He was in Sweeney Todd and a bunch of.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Stop it.

[Eddie (Actor)]

Hp.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Harry Potter.

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[Amanda (Caller)]

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[Eddie (Actor)]

So he's been around the block a couple of times.

[Host (Burt Show)]

He's a little. But this is something different. I mean, the. Obviously, the hype on this movie, I mean, has been playing out for months and months and months and months. Now, is there anything that you said to him that can prepare him for what's about to happen?

[Eddie (Actor)]

No, but he did say something interesting the other day, which is he still. He still gets shocked at the amount of fan attention and love and being in it for about a year. I expect it whenever we go to big events where there's a lot of people gathered and there's that group collective, but it's over as soon as you walk away. I mean, I think it exists in that time, but when you're in the car going home and you live in your life, there's not going to be groups of people following you, screaming at you for the rest of your life.

[Jamie (Actor)]

And that's your Taylor or Rob or Kristen.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Right.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Do you like that better, though? Do you like having this cult following that's dedicated to you from here on out? Even after the movies are done, you'll still have these fans that are following you. Do you like the fact of being able to get in the car and go somewhere and have a life?

[Eddie (Actor)]

Oh, absolutely. I love maintaining some sort of anonymity. But being a part of this huge project is wonderful because these fans will continue supporting you in other projects that you do.

[Host (Burt Show)]

No doubt. Jamie, when you got the call finally that you were gonna be in this movie, what was your reaction? Was it on the phone? Were you in front of somebody? How does that work?

[Jamie (Actor)]

I was at a friend's birthday party, and my initial reaction was I went to the bar and bought another drink.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Nice.

[Jamie (Actor)]

And then I sort of started shaking a little bit. And then I actually shed a tear. A single, solitary tear. But. Okay, suck it up.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Okay.

[Eddie (Actor)]

We're good.

[Host (Burt Show)]

How many people did you tell beforehand that you. You auditioned for this movie?

[Jamie (Actor)]

I told no one.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Really?

[Jamie (Actor)]

Absolutely no. I wanted to be in the first one. And I always find that, you know, when you're auditioning for a job, if you tell someone, if it's a big gig, you tell someone about it, everyone gets really excited. You get excited, then if you don't get it, you get so depressed. So I just kind of keep it under wraps. And I got it and told everyone, and they were very happy, which is great.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Eddie, was it the same for you on the first movie where you didn't tell anybody, or did you tell everybody?

[Eddie (Actor)]

Well, there was no reason to tell anybody because I didn't even know what it was. I didn't even want to audition for when I read the material, because my character was talking about the humans were tracking us. And I thought, if I'm saying the humans, and I'm not one, and this is crap, so I didn't want to go in on it. But the casting director was a friend of mine, and she'd put me in several movies. So I went in, and then I fell in love with Katherine's energy. And then when I got the part, I read the books and then saw how wonderful the series was.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

I'm always curious about preparing for these kind of roles. Like you said, you met Catherine, who's obviously the author of the series, and,

[Jamie (Actor)]

like, she was the director of the first film.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Director of the film. Okay. And then did you get to meet the author? That's Stephenie Meyer, Right. Have you met her as well?

[Jamie (Actor)]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Okay. And so, like, what kind of preparation goes into diving into this completely different world?

[Eddie (Actor)]

Well, Stephenie Meyer, she paints the world, this world of the vampire, very well. It's a whole new mythology. So if you just study or just take what she wrote in the paper, you're halfway there. Then you just bring your own unique individuality. But the rules are very specific. It's unlike any vampire world that you've known. There's no stakes to the heart. There's no coffins. We can. We don't sleep. So the rules are very clear. And if you just bring yourself. You're like, there.

[Jamie (Actor)]

She's also incredibly descriptive in the way that she portrays her characters. Anyway, she will. She was. She will talk about how a character. For instance, the character Arrow, played by Michael Sheen, she says in the book that his voice is like feathers. So, you know, you have to just pick up on little things that she's written in the book. And just take from that. Because, you know, that's. That's what's so fantastic about the film, is that there's. Everything is there already. You don't. You don't have to really think so deeply about the character. Everything is in the books. Everything is in the four books already written.

[Host (Burt Show)]

And are you responsible for picking those parts out? Like that feathery part you just talked about? Are you responsible for reading the book and picking up on that? Or does somebody do that for you?

[Eddie (Actor)]

Oh, you have to. If you. If you're an actor, you know, with your weight, you will do the background research that you need to do to get your character.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

There are both of your characters in the third and fourth book as well.

[Jamie (Actor)]

I'm not in the third, but I'm in the fourth.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Okay.

[Eddie (Actor)]

I'm not in the third, but I'm not in the fourth.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

So do you expect to come back for the fourth movie?

[Jamie (Actor)]

You're like, hey, that is the plan.

[Amanda (Caller)]

Okay?

[Co-host (Jeff)]

That is already in the. In the works.

[Jamie (Actor)]

Who knows?

[Host (Burt Show)]

He's got something. He's got something. He knows something that we don't know yet. Give us a snapshot of what it's like. I know you guys are at what Mall of Georgia last night. Like when you guys go out and you do these New Moon appearances. Give us a snapshot of what that's been like around the country for you guys.

[Jill (Caller)]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Will you marry me? Will you go to prom with me?

[Eddie (Actor)]

Will you go to prom with me? Thongs being thrown on stage.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Really?

[Eddie (Actor)]

That's the plural. That was singular, though, the actual event.

[Jamie (Actor)]

A thong. A thong.

[Host (Burt Show)]

A thong here in Georgia?

[Jamie (Actor)]

No, that was in. Was it D.C. right?

[Eddie (Actor)]

Might have been Minneapolis.

[Jamie (Actor)]

It was D.C. i think it was.

[Host (Burt Show)]

A thong's a thong. It doesn't matter what city he's in.

[Katie (Co-host)]

I gotta be honest with you. I don't find a thong from Minneapolis attractive.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Are we talking about hundreds of people that show up? Are we talking about thousands of people that show up?

[Eddie (Actor)]

Four, four and a half people that show up.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Four people showed up and one thong. 25% of the women that show up are throwing their thongs at you guys. And will you go to premieres or. I mean, you've seen the movie already.

[Eddie (Actor)]

I saw a very early cut where the CGI wasn't complete and it was just dots on the screen, and I liked it then, but it's been cut together now, and apparently it's a thousand times better than that version, so. But I don't want to see it. Until I'm at the premiere. The premiere is next week, so we are. We are going to be in attendance.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

So it's going to be big to do LA premiere Star studded. Do you guys get hit up for tickets for stuff like that? Like, is your, like, cousin's cousin's cousin calling you, going, I want to come?

[Jamie (Actor)]

Yeah, actually, yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a lot of extended family now, it seems.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Did you know about them before this role?

[Jamie (Actor)]

Absolutely not.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Yeah, honestly, we understand that, man. So what's going on? I guess you guys can't publicly talk about the whole Robert and Robert Pattinson romance going on on set more than

[Eddie (Actor)]

not being allowed to publicly talk about it. Jamie. I will not talk about it. He infuriates him. The very question.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Why is that?

[Jamie (Actor)]

I just don't think it's anyone's business. I just. I mean, like, you're still gonna have

[Host (Burt Show)]

to get over all that, man. I'm serious.

[Jamie (Actor)]

Well, no, I mean, I guess, you know, being an actor, you have to be prepared that your life is, you know, in the public spotlight, whatever. But, you know, there comes a point where if you're saying, I don't want to talk about this, there's. That has nothing to do with you. I think people should be able to respect that. And it just seems to me like people don't respect it, and it's. It's kind of irritating, I guess.

[Host (Burt Show)]

They absolutely don't respect that. And it almost makes it more of a topic. Like, people would probably let it go if the celebrities would just come out and say, look, this is the only time we're talking about it, that I'm never answering a question again.

[Jamie (Actor)]

But why should they? I don't see why they should have to come out and talk about it. I don't see how. I don't see why it's anybody else's business. I'm sorry I get so agitated.

[Host (Burt Show)]

No, go ahead. Let's talk about it now. It's true, but we do live in sort of like this tabloidy type world now. And I don't think it's any different now than it was back in the 60s. If you guys are on a screen, people are interested in you.

[Jamie (Actor)]

Yeah, but there's, you know. Yeah, yeah, I agree. But, you know, now with the Internet and everything, there's. It's so much. It's so much more public. It's not. Back in the 60s, it was slightly more respectful. And now it just seems like any information is everybody's information.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Well, and it seems to me too that the couples that last are the ones that don't talk about it. Beyonce and Jay Z don't even recognize

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the fact they're married.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Like, they don't even talk about the fact that they're married. You know, Chris Martin and Gwyneth Paltrow, like, referring to. Refuse to show up on any red carpet together. And their marriage is strong. Have two kids together.

[Jamie (Actor)]

You know, it's because they didn't like each other.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Will and Jada, just a little bit. I mean, not too much.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Yeah. So it just seems like the ones that last, like, really sort of, like, make that a rule in their relationship and kind of go forward with that so I can understand it and respect it. But we still want to know about it.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Jamie, could it get public?

[Co-host (Jeff)]

We're still curious.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Could it get to a point with you? Because it appears that you want to take the private route for sure. Let's say your character takes off, the public falls absolutely in love with you. You become this, a lister tomorrow. People can't get enough of you, man. So you get out of your apartment or your house and there's 50 paparazzi you want to go. And you want to go to Starbucks and there's 50 paparazzi, you turn into the male equivalent of Britney Spears. Do you give all this up? Do you give all this up and do something else, or do you embrace it?

[Jamie (Actor)]

It depends on if I'm still enjoying myself or not. If I'm not having fun in the job that I'm doing, then I'm not gonna do it. I'd probably move somewhere really remote if that was to happen.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Yeah.

[Jamie (Actor)]

To somewhere in the middle of the countryside and just be a complete hermit.

[Katie (Co-host)]

I would say Milwaukee, but they'll throw thongs on Minnesota.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

And same for you. Would you move or would you deal?

[Eddie (Actor)]

If it was that intense, then I would move, yeah. Because nobody wants that. That's kind of crazy.

[Host (Burt Show)]

I think there are some in LA that do want it. I mean, you could certainly get away from it. Right. If you really wanted to.

[Eddie (Actor)]

For me, and I know for Jamie and for a lot of other actors, it's. We started this because of the craft. I mean, that's what we're doing. We didn't seek fame. And that's not. I mean, that's a part of it. If you want to work at a certain level, they feed into each other, but at the end of the day, it's about the work. So if it becomes more about the fame and less about the work, then I'm going to Take a step back and get back.

[Jamie (Actor)]

Your voice sounds so nice in my headphones.

[Katie (Co-host)]

Almost like feathers.

[Jamie (Actor)]

Yeah.

[Host (Burt Show)]

And if a. Have you guys seen any reviews for the movie?

[Eddie (Actor)]

Are there any reviews?

[Host (Burt Show)]

I don't even know. I was going to ask you if you guys have seen anybody said anything negative.

[Eddie (Actor)]

What would be the point? People are going to see it anyway.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Yeah, right.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Matter.

[Host (Burt Show)]

I was wondering if, like, if you read something that specifically said something bad about the movie or one of your roles, if that would really eat at you or. It's not a big deal.

[Jamie (Actor)]

I'd never read it. I would never, ever read that. I mean, there. There are going to be people that hate what you do, no matter what you do. So just stay away.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Have you ever had anything like that kind of like punch you in the stomach and really, like, bother you for a day?

[Eddie (Actor)]

Yes, for a day. And then you. The reality is exactly what he said is that you can't. There's no unanimous decision, everybody. I mean, if 99% of the people love you and they think you're brilliant, there's that one person who's like, I didn't believe him.

[Host (Burt Show)]

That was terrible. Right?

[Eddie (Actor)]

And you can't please everybody. There's no point in even trying.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Isn't it amazing how you can have 99% of fans who love you, but that 1% just gets under your skin?

[Host (Burt Show)]

You do remember it.

[Eddie (Actor)]

Yeah, but it's not weird. It's 1% though, right?

[Host (Burt Show)]

And like you said, it doesn't matter on this movie anyway. All the critics could come out today and say this is the worst movie we've ever seen in our life. And it wouldn't stop one person from coming to seeing this movie. But everybody's saying great things about it.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

I can't wait.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Yeah. So excited, you guys. Well, thank you for coming in.

[Eddie (Actor)]

Thank you.

[Host (Burt Show)]

I don't need to wish you luck because the thing is going to be number one and you guys are both going to be very successful. I wish not. I wish not. Popcorn. Paparazzi on you.

[Jamie (Actor)]

Thank you very much.

[Host (Burt Show)]

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[Jan from Toyota]

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[Co-host (Jen)]

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[Jan from Toyota]

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[Host (Burt Show)]

The bird show. Did you guys catch what? Our caller's name is Amanda. Amanda. Hey, Amanda.

[Katie (Co-host)]

I heard you're on the air.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Hi, how are you?

[Amanda (Caller)]

I'm doing good. How are you guys doing? Okay.

[Host (Burt Show)]

You know, from time to time over the last eight years, we will get an email just like yours that is just. You're just confused by guys. You know, I think there's always a bubbling confusion about the opposite sex, but at some point you're just like, why isn't this working for me? And I think you're probably there right now.

[Jill (Caller)]

I am, yeah.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Is this a recent breakup we're talking about that brought all this sort of introspection on?

[Amanda (Caller)]

Well, I'm 33 now and it's like I've never had a relationship last more than a year. You know, usually six months, it starts to go downhill. And it's just like you start thinking at a certain age, I want to get married one day. And it's like, what am I doing wrong?

[Host (Burt Show)]

Is it, you know, I think I say this every time we do this. Like, is it possible that you're not doing anything wrong at all, you just haven't met the right guy yet?

[Amanda (Caller)]

I don't know. I mean, it seems like, you know, I've dated quite a few guys and it's like it just never, for whatever reason, you know, after the six month period, it just starts to go downhill.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

And is it usually your choice to get out of the relationship or their choice?

[Amanda (Caller)]

It's usually mutual. I Mean, you know, once or twice I dump someone or they dumped me. You know what I mean? It was never like a crazy breakup, really. It was like more of a mutual thing.

[Co-host (Jen)]

But I admire the fact that you want to just stop the process right now. Not. Not to repeat the pattern, if there is a pattern, and try to do something different, you know, but it could be a case where, like Bert said, it's just. It just hasn't worked out, you know?

[Jill (Caller)]

Right.

[Amanda (Caller)]

And I mean, I don't know if it's, you know, the type of guy they get. I don't know. It's very weird.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

What is your type of guy?

[Amanda (Caller)]

You know, usually. Usually he's a couple years younger. Not very, like, not significantly younger, but a couple years younger. And, you know, I mean, I try, you know, to find someone, you know, that has a job and, you know, I think have good morals. You never know, though, you know what I mean?

[Host (Burt Show)]

Maybe you're setting the bar too high. Maybe you got to get rid of that morals thing.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Or the job.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Or the job. Yeah. One or the other's gotta go casting with a wide net.

[Katie (Co-host)]

They just have to. They don't. They have to know killing is bad and they have to get a paycheck.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Women are so picky now, man. So much easier. When I was dating, there were no morals at all. So much easier. What happened with the last guy that you were dating? Why did you break up?

[Amanda (Caller)]

I don't know. I mean, it was going great. And then again, like at like seven months, I mean, we just. I don't know, I, like, he started to get aggravated with me and I started to get aggravated with him. I don't know if it's like. Like I'm very, you know, I'm very into work and, you know, I consider myself well read and I think. I don't know if that's intimidating to him. I mean, he was super, you know, super sweet. Everything was going great at first, and then, I don't know, I got busy with work, he got busy with work, and it was like. It just kind of fizzled out.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Who did the breaking up?

[Amanda (Caller)]

It was totally mutual last time.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Who started the conversation?

[Amanda (Caller)]

I did.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Okay, so you broke up with him then.

[Katie (Co-host)]

Okay, that was mutual.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Never.

[Amanda (Caller)]

It was mutual. I mean, like, it really was mutual, though.

[Katie (Co-host)]

Do you date people who are better or worse looking than, you

[Amanda (Caller)]

know? I don't know.

[Host (Burt Show)]

I mean, worse. I don't. She doesn't.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Not to be your interpreter.

[Katie (Co-host)]

I'm sorry, dude. I mean, do you find yourself. Do you think. Do you think that you date down?

[Amanda (Caller)]

No, I don't think I did. I don't. I mean, maybe a little, but nothing crazy.

[Katie (Co-host)]

If we were all hanging out and we looked at you and the guy that you're dating, you know, average guy that you're dating in a restaurant, would it be. Who would be the lucky one in the relationship, him or you?

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

Him.

[Russ (Caller)]

Okay.

[Wendy (Caller)]

Have you tried dating guys your age?

[Amanda (Caller)]

Yeah, I have. They don't work either.

[Star (Caller/Guest)]

Really?

[Co-host (Jeff)]

What about older guys?

[Amanda (Caller)]

I haven't really dated older guys.

[Jamie (Actor)]

Okay.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Okay.

[Amanda (Caller)]

You know, so maybe. I don't know. I mean, I just want to stop and figure out what the problem is now.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Did you have a game plan, like a marriage game plan, like you were gonna be married by 28 years old?

[Amanda (Caller)]

Yeah, I did. I mean, I thought so, you know, at a younger age. And then you hit 29 and you're like, okay, maybe I need to get rid of that plan.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Here's my whole flaw in this whole thing is like. And I think this is mostly women that have this Life game plan. 28 years old, I'm gonna be married. 30 years old, I'm gonna have my first kid. 32, second kid. And when you don't reach those mental goals of yours, then all of a sudden you're doing something wrong when you might not be doing anything wrong at all. You just haven't found the right guy. You haven't rushed into a relationship that you don't belong in, that would have ended up in a divorce anyway. Maybe you've just. Wait, he just hasn't come along yet. Why do women panic like that?

[Co-host (Jen)]

Well. Cause we're in a pack and we seem. I think. I think we feel behind. Because the people we're around a lot of the times and feel the pressure. Because if she's. And are all your friends married?

[Amanda (Caller)]

All of them. All of them are pregnant or have babies.

[Jill (Caller)]

Right.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

I think that's it. I mean, I think it's the ovary time clock more than anything that puts the pressure on it. Yeah, well. And a lot of times you want to follow in the footsteps of your mom or what your family did. And most of our moms didn't pursue careers like we all do. I mean, she said that, you know, the last relationship fizzled because she was really focused on work. Well, how focused was our mother's generation or our grandmother's generation focused on their careers? Nil in comparison to what we are.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Wouldn't you rather be 35 years old, though, and end up with a guy? That's right. For you for the rest of your life than 28 years old and have a divorce behind you already and still searching for that guy?

[Co-host (Jen)]

I think so. But I think what is saying is correct that this generation has to do it ourselves. Like the expectation is kind of old fashioned on what, you know, because our mothers and grandmothers were married young and had children young and like she said with the career thing. So I think we have to define it in our own head what our life is going to be like. And then, I mean, I'm. I never had a mother that was in my ear about what I needed to be doing. But a lot of women have their mothers telling them, hey, you know, it's a clock's ticking yet, you know, I mean, it's just all this feedback you get from everybody wanting to please everybody.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Wendy, you're how old now?

[Wendy (Caller)]

24.

[Host (Burt Show)]

24 years old. Do you feel like because you're not in a steady relationship right now that you've done something wrong?

[Wendy (Caller)]

Absolutely.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

Really?

[Wendy (Caller)]

I mean it's.

[Jill (Caller)]

Yeah.

[Wendy (Caller)]

Been almost a year since I've been in like a year and a half longer since I've been in a relationship.

[Co-host (Jen)]

Yeah.

[Wendy (Caller)]

You always feel like a failure when you're not in a relationship.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Really for that long.

[Wendy (Caller)]

Yeah, because I want to get married eventually, but everybody else has relationships. Like producer Joanna. She's been in her relationship for a year and a half and she's 25. Have you feel like insignificant to your friends and people who are in long term relationships?

[Katie (Co-host)]

Have you considered working out and doing something different with your hair?

[Wendy (Caller)]

I tried and that doesn't work.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Maybe you're just not doing anything wrong at all.

[Jamie (Actor)]

Maybe you're.

[Wendy (Caller)]

Maybe. But you always feel like you are

[Co-host (Jen)]

really, I think went well. I think. And women, I think define themselves by their relationships more so than. And hopefully their careers too now. But I think women define themselves as more important in a relationship than out of one. More so than guys do.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Well, here's what we can do for you. And we've done this from time to time. See if you're hip to this. We do this segment called Relationship Relationship Report Card where what you would have to do is you would have to give producer Tracy like five or six or seven phone numbers of ex boyfriends. And then what we do every morning is we get another ex on and he comes completely clean on what happened in the relationship and his attitude, your attitude towards the relationship. And he just gives us a snapshot of why it didn't work out and what your responsibility in that was. And Then at the end of the week, at least in the past, when we've done this, we've had some. I mean, it's been pretty conclusive on exactly why these guys have been turned off. If you want to try that, it's a gutsy move, because listening to all those guys has got to be tough.

[Amanda (Caller)]

Yeah, no, but I would. I mean, what do I have to lose? I have nothing to lose.

[Co-host (Jen)]

And it can be valuable information. I mean, we've had in the past, when we've done it, it's valuable information.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

One girl, didn't she kind of find out that she drank too much? Yeah, yeah, Remember that one?

[Host (Burt Show)]

That's right.

[Katie (Co-host)]

She never admitted it.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

She didn't really admit it, but it was, like, consistent. Every single guy was like, well, she's fine until she gets wasted.

[Host (Burt Show)]

And then she fled it to it and fought it. Yeah, yeah.

[Jill (Caller)]

No, and.

[Host (Burt Show)]

And in thinking about this yesterday, Jeff and I were talking about this. I think the way we'll do this that's a little bit different is in the past, every time we've had an ex on, we've had the virtual listener on who has argued and argued and argued and wouldn't listen after a while because they just don't want to hear what's coming out of the ex's mouth. So I think what we're going to do is we'll have the ex on every day, and then we'll only check back with you on Friday. So if you want to go ahead and you want to rebut, Friday is the day. But you'll have all week long to chew on everything that they said to you.

[Co-host (Jen)]

That's a good idea.

[Amanda (Caller)]

Okay.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Okay.

[Amanda (Caller)]

I'll give Tracy all my. The information.

[Host (Burt Show)]

Okay. So if it works out, right, then on Monday morning, we'll have the first Exon.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

You're a brave girl.

[Host (Burt Show)]

You are brave.

[Co-host (Jeff)]

That could be pretty brutal honesty.

[Host (Burt Show)]

It's really bright. All right, let me put you on hold, and we'll get some info from you, and we'll see if we can get one of your ex's to come on with us. They're not real eager to do this either. It takes a lot of arm, you know, twisting, because they're like, man, it's over. It's behind her. Does she really want to know this? And the truth is, yes. And we have a tough time convincing them that you really want to hear this. So let's see if we can get one on on Monday morning. Okay, awesome.

[Amanda (Caller)]

Thanks, guys, so much.

[Host (Burt Show)]

You're welcome.

[Katie (Co-host)]

It's like thanking the cop who gave you a ticket.

[Host (Burt Show)]

She may not be thanking us at the end of the week.

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