29: Full Show PT 3: Friday, May 15 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show – Episode 29 Full Show PT 3: Friday, May 15 [Vault]

Release Date: May 15, 2026
Hosts: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy & the entire Bert Show Cast

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Bert Show is packed with authentic, often hilarious conversations ready to make listeners’ mornings more bearable. The topics bounce from a surprisingly heated debate about Paula Deen’s alleged ham incident to the chaos of hosting Thanksgiving for the first time, intertwined with sports rivalries and candid exploration of women’s relationships with food and body image. Through calls, stories, and real talk, the cast and their listeners keep things engaging, relatable, and even moving.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. The “Paula Deen Gets Hit With a Ham” Debate

Timestamps: 01:02 – 08:44

Summary:
The show kicks off with a passionate and somewhat absurd discussion around a viral video where chef Paula Deen claims to have been “hit full on in the face” with a ham during a charity event. Jeff leads the skepticism, breaking down the video evidence and suggesting exaggeration, while Jen, Wendy, and others fiercely defend Paula Deen, chalking up any embellishment to “Southern fish stories.”

Key Points:

• Video Analysis: Jeff insists, “It’s very evident... the ham just brushes her chest, then hits her leg, passing clear away from her face. The ham does not hit her in the face. It’s a shame she had to lie about it.” (03:14)
• “Southern Storytelling”: Jen defends: “Southern people tell big fish stories.” (02:55)
• Age and Sympathy: The crew discusses whether being older or especially likable earns one a “respect waiver” for embellished stories.
• Double Standards: John challenges: “If this was not Paula Deen and it was Michael Lohan... would you still be going, ‘leave Michael alone’?” (03:41)
• Fan Reactions: Listeners call in, some defending Paula (“When you’re an older person, anything is—”), others drawing lines between being brushed and “hit.” (04:30-05:14)

Memorable Quotes:

• Paula Deen (quoted): “All of a sudden, this ham that weighed 200 pounds, hit me full on into the face and about knocked me cuckoo. But I’m fine. Maybe it knocked some sense into my head.” (02:25)
• Jen: “Leave Paula Deen alone.” (03:41)
• Jeff: “Some people get a waiver, a respect waiver...” (08:13)

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2. Wendy’s Thanksgiving Cooking Anxiety

Timestamps: 10:19 – 22:10

Summary:
Wendy reveals she’s been tasked with her first-ever Thanksgiving dinner. The crew dives into her self-professed lack of cooking skills—she admits to owning neither mixing bowls nor a proper meat thermometer—and her anxiety about cooking for the family. Callers pitch in with advice and set expectations low, all to Wendy’s nervous amusement.

Key Points:

• Cooking Experience: Wendy laments, “I don’t own mixing bowls. I use the toaster oven or the oven you just pop something in.” (10:39)
• Forgotten Turkey: She confesses, “I bought the turkey on Sunday and forgot to put it in the refrigerator until Monday.” (11:55)
• Family Legacy: The group reflects on the tradition of passing down Thanksgiving duties, and balancing old family recipes with the urge to try something new. Katie asks, “Did you never watch your mom do this when you were a kid?” Wendy says no. (15:28)
• Practical Advice: Tips include using Reynolds oven bags, ensuring a pop-up timer, and (half-joking) having Popeyes on standby if the main meal fails.

Memorable Quotes:

• Jeff: “This is seriously, like just getting your driver’s permit and then somebody from NASCAR says… you’re driving at Atlanta Motor Speedway.” (12:18)
• Wendy: “I didn’t even know I had to clean the turkey... get the gizzards out...” (15:53)
• Jen: “You gotta reach on up in there… No, and the other—here’s a little tidbit for you: my mom always did this, is she would chop up an apple and put the pieces inside the turkey…” (16:12)

Listener Advice:

• “Those Reynolds oven bags are really easy and really good.” (14:32)
• “Make sure your turkey has a pop-up timer.” (14:57)
• “Get a Cajun fried turkey from Popeyes as a backup.” (21:35)

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3. Georgia vs. Georgia Tech: Rivalry & Fan Stories

Timestamps: 23:14 – 35:39

Summary:
A heartwarming, fun segment features two lifelong college football superfans—Joan (UGA, 71) and Joanne (Georgia Tech, 74). The hosts explore the depths of fandom, family connections, and generational passion for their college teams. The show surprises both fans with tickets to the big game.

Key Points:

• Fandom Through Generations: Joan’s daughter and Joanne’s children are all tied to the rival schools, often flipping family loyalties.
• Hope and Heartbreak: Both fans share stories of decades of crushing losses and soaring wins.
• Good-natured Trash Talk: “If they do [win], they’ll have to bury me, probably,” laughs Joanne. (29:22)
• Special Surprise: The show gifts them four tickets each to bring family; Joan will attend her first UGA game after 30 years as a fan.

Memorable Quotes:

• Joanne: “One of my favorite teams in the world is Georgia Tech. And whoever plays Georgia, I love it.” (27:38)
• Lisa (on rivalry): “I’ve never heard of him.” (on Joe Hamilton, a former Georgia Tech quarterback) (28:46)
• Joan (on hopes): “I still have high hopes for them this week.” (26:48)

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4. “The Chatter” – Food, Diets, and Women’s Inner Dialogue

Timestamps: 36:41 – 51:18

Summary:
The episode takes a poignant turn as Jeff, Jen, Katie, Wendy, and listeners explore women’s relationships with food, body image, and the relentless “mental chatter” around dieting—especially during the holidays. The frankness is refreshing, spanning guilt, judgment (from self and others), family dynamics, societal expectations, and even cheerful body acceptance.

Key Points:

• Constant Self-Policing: Melissa and Wendy explain how even “treat yourself” holiday meals come with guilt. “There’s a part of you that’s always telling yourself, should I? Should I not? And it just never goes away.” (37:42 - Katie)
• Societal Pressures: Katie: “Women are judged mostly on their looks all the time and guys judge women on their looks all the time… our biggest asset is our looks, and so… we’re always trying to maintain it.” (40:04)
• Family & Judgment: Stories about moms and relatives policing food choices provoke laughter, resignation, and relatability. “If you vocalize you’re a little concerned about your weight… [mom will say] are you gonna have a second helping?” (39:03 - Katie)
• Regret & Moderation: The word “regret” repeatedly arises in response to Jeff’s suggestion to “forget the diet” for Thanksgiving.
• Callers' Stories:
  • Laura: “235 pounds. White girl. Love myself, have been for over 10 years. I don’t struggle with anything. I enjoy food. I love it.” (45:02)
  • Kelly (former athlete): Switched from an “eat anything, work it off” lifestyle to just “trying to eat a little more healthy” after having kids, lost 75 pounds without obsessing.

Memorable Quotes:

• Jen: “When I was at my thinnest in the last 10 years, I was at my most miserable. But hey, I looked good in those photos, but I was like, miserable underneath... So just be happy with the extra weight.” (51:00)
• Melissa (caller): “Smile is your best feature anyway, on anybody’s face. Who wants a miserable, skinny girl?” (45:27)
• Jeff: “In a guy’s world, this is non-existent.” (40:01)
• Katie: “I think every woman suffers from an eating disorder…so abusive to ourselves…” (42:58)
• Jen: “Overeating is also an eating disorder… I don’t think that one way or the other is necessarily the way to go.” (44:06)

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Notable Moments

• Hilarious Cooking Fears: Wendy’s deadpan on using a George Foreman instead of an oven is peak Bert Show humor.
• Listener Confidence: Laura calling in with pure body acceptance (“I love myself... I love food... I meet men who love it...”) is both empowering and rare, sparking admiration—and honest questions.
• Generational Sports Fandom: The show’s surprise for Joan and Joanne is genuinely touching, layering decades of hope, rivalry, and family on top of the weekend’s game.

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Paula Deen Ham Debate: 01:02 – 08:44
• Wendy’s Thanksgiving Prep Struggles: 10:19 – 22:10
• UGA vs. Georgia Tech Superfans: 23:14 – 35:39
• Women, Food, and Holiday Dieting (including calls): 36:41 – 51:18

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Episode Tone & Language

As ever, The Bert Show blends real talk with dry, observational humor and heartfelt moments. Language is colloquial and candid—at times chaotic, often self-deprecating, but always supportive at the core.

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Summary

This episode exemplifies why The Bert Show endures: a fast-moving mix of wit, confession, relatable worries, generational stories, sports passion, and supportive listener connections. If you need comforting chaos, some laughs, and the reassurance you are not alone in your holiday messes or inner chatter, this is your morning show home.

Transcript

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[Jeff]

We believe that Tim Sanders, the dude that threw the ham that hit Paula Deen in the face, has bailed on us.

[Wendy]

Oh, no.

[Jeff]

He was all set to talk yesterday, but for whatever reason, this morning, he's not talking.

[Melissa]

Maybe the hosea people got to him.

[Jeff]

Stop picking up. Doesn't want to discuss.

[Melissa]

Yep, I bet he's at like the end zone of Meadowlands with Jimmy Hoffa. Listen, you will not talk about what you did to Paula Deen. Do you understand me? And then next thing you know, he's in the trunk of a car being driven to New Jersey and they've pinned

[Jen]

him down with Smithfield hams.

[Jeff]

Right. Some emailed yesterday and said that Paula didn't get hit at all. Jeff is one of them.

[Kelly]

Oh, I didn't know it was being thrown.

[Jen]

It was her.

[Jeff]

No, it wasn't her saying, oh, my God. Sure, yeah, it was somebody else.

[Katie]

But it's, it's that boom.

[John]

It's hitting her microphone. It's brushing her microphone on her sweater hobby. It goes by. It brushes her nose maybe.

[Jen]

I think it did. Cause you can see her head flinch.

[John]

Yeah, because you would flinch too if something went boom right by your face. That close. And I think she got startled. And then I think the way, you know, like to have a big reaction like that, you're like, it hit me in the nose and it didn't. It boop. Brushed her nose.

[Jen]

Well, brushing and hitting is really the same thing when you're getting hit by a ham. I agree at you and you don't know it's coming. Here's what she said and you're her age. You're getting hit by a ham.

[Paula Deen (quoted)]

And he raised the ham up, but I thought he was gonna pass it on down the line. And I turned around to take another ham off the truck and turned around and all of a sudden this ham that weighed 200 pounds.

[Jeff]

200 hit me.

[Lisa]

Just joking.

[Paula Deen (quoted)]

Full on into the face. And about knocked me cuckoo. But I'm fine. Maybe it knocked some sense into my head.

[Jeff]

Okay, now I will say she's exaggerating there a lot. I love me some Paula Deen, but she is exaggerating right there.

[Jen]

Southern people tell big fish stories.

[Jeff]

Okay, that I can buy. Because it didn't full on hit her in the face. It was a graze Says, um, I was listening to the show today and found something strange about the fact that someone can get hit in the nose with a full ham and not get injured or hit in the face for that fact and not have a busted lip or bruise on the face. So I took a look at the video and then he slowed it down. And just before he hit her in the face, you'll see that the ham really just brushes her chest, then hits her leg, passing clear away from her face. The ham does not hit her in the face. It's a shame she had to lie about it.

[John]

She's got. She got startled.

[Jen]

Give her a break.

[John]

Why is it okay for her to lie?

[Wendy]

It's Paula Dean.

[Katie]

Paula Deen.

[Jen]

She got hit. Brushed, hit, whatever. She got hit with a ham.

[John]

Jen Hobby.

[Jen]

Leave Paula Deen alone.

[John]

If this was not Paula Deen and it was Michael Lohan.

[Wendy]

Well, he's ridiculous. He would do it for public.

[John]

Did he get.

[Wendy]

Paula Dean doesn't have to do it for publicity.

[John]

Hold on all. My question is, if this is not Paula Deen and this is Michael Lohan or Jon Gosselin and that video happened, would you still be going? Leave Michael alone. Pam, brushing by your nose is just as bad.

[Jen]

Well, I think that anybody can be startled by it.

[John]

A yes or no question.

[Melissa]

You liar.

[Jen]

Cuz I love Paula Deen.

[Jeff]

It is a brusher.

[Jen]

It's a great Paula Deen though. Leave her alone.

[Jeff]

It's not a shot in the face. Good morning.

[Jen]

She is. She's 75 years old.

[Jeff]

Hey, Tracy. Good morning. On key 100. Okay. No, you're not. Oh, now you are.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Now I am.

[Melissa (caller)]

Okay.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Good morning everybody.

[Melissa (caller)]

And Jen, I gotta say, I love you.

[Lisa]

First up.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Okay, but being brushed and being hit

[Melissa (caller)]

are not the same thing.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

My 16 year old got nailed in the nose by a softball being hit.

[Lisa]

She didn't get brushed in the nose.

[Melissa (caller)]

She got hit in the nose. There's a distinct difference.

[Jeff]

I think it's very evident. It's Paula Deen you're talking about.

[Jen]

When you're an older person, anything is,

[Melissa (caller)]

I love Paula Dean, but where is she from anyway? Because she kind of gets on my nerve.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

That accent's just a little.

[Jeff]

We can't have that.

[Wendy]

Oh, she's sweet.

[Jen]

Yeah. Leave Paula Dean alone, you guys. She's doing something good. She's doing something for charity. Somebody throws a ham at her, she gets startled. It hurts her. She says she got hit in the face with a ham. Leave her.

[John]

Why is it I'm just older and

[Jen]

she gets a pass?

[Wendy]

Because she's sweet and cute and can cook really well.

[John]

You just need to. Wendy, you just need to acknowledge that she did not get hit, quote, full on in the face, as she said numerous times.

[Jeff]

Jen, I think you need to make one of those videos, one of those leave Paula Deen alone videos today and post it on your Facebook page.

[Lisa]

And you know what?

[John]

If Paula ever came in studio, I would call her out on the same thing.

[Melissa]

I'd say, paula, come on. You just got startled, right? You just got startled a little bit. You got a little scared and you may have overreacted.

[John]

Draw some attention to the charity. That's great. I think that's awesome.

[Jeff]

It's Paula Deen, though, man. Give her a break. She gets a break. It's Paula Deene.

[John]

I'm giving her the break. I just want the acknowledgment that the video, the CBS Atlanta video, that is the full long shot.

[Jen]

You're not cleansing your does not show

[John]

Abraham hitting Paula in the face.

[Jeff]

It's not a full on hit to the face. It's a brush.

[Jen]

I could help you cleanse your karma.

[Melissa]

Jeff$ I question whether it even brushed her face. I think she just got scared.

[Jeff]

Hey, John, good morning.

[Laura]

Good morning.

[Lisa]

Hey, Jeff.

[Laura]

Why do you have to be such an ass?

[John]

How am I being an ass?

[Jen]

Thank you.

[Melissa (caller)]

Well, I mean, you ask for this

[Laura]

help with your karma the first thing in the. And have you not ever maybe stretched the truth a little bit or maybe made things seem a little more dramatic than what they are, but all of a sudden it's Paula Deen. Why are you choosing her to come down on?

[John]

Okay, you know what? That's an interesting point. Let's say that you guys are sitting at home watching the news and you see a video of me and I had gone down to Hosea feed the hungry, and next thing you know, I'm holding my lip and I'm going talking about how I got full on with a ham and all this stuff. And then you see that video.

[Laura]

Do I not get everything that's going on in the world today? Can you not pick something better than to pick on Paula Deen?

[John]

Do I not get. And I'm asking the people in this room a lifetime.

[Jeff]

Bert, you're not. But you're not listening to his argument.

[Jen]

Paula de. 75 years old and likable.

[Jeff]

Right. You're not hearing his argument. Paula Deen has built up so much likable points that when she exaggerates in a story that she's obviously exaggerating about, you respectfully don't really call her out on it. You, however, woman too.

[Jen]

There's a difference that.

[Jeff]

You lost me. You had me.

[Laura]

She's an older female that she has worked to create. And it's like all of a sudden, Jeff Dollar wants to come into the picture and say, wow, I've got dirt on Paula Dean. I think I'll destroy that.

[John]

I don't have dirt. The tape don't lie, brother. She is on tape getting barely brushed by a ham. It's all I'm saying.

[Laura]

No doubt all of us have. We have, you know, we've been knocked down playing football or something. Yeah. We made it so bad. Or somebody mentioned the fish story earlier.

[John]

Yeah, without a doubt.

[Laura]

Stretched the truth a little bit. And yes, you know, you've done the same thing. Why. Why is Paula Dean.

[Lisa]

What.

[Laura]

What's the purpose of your mission here?

[Jeff]

This is such a ridiculous conversation. I have to end it eventually.

[John]

Acknowledge the fact that Paula Dean stretched the truth.

[Jeff]

You're allowed to at some people get a waiver, a respect waiver and the. It's obvious she didn't get pounded in the face like she explained. Thank you, however.

[Jen]

Thank you, however.

[Jeff]

If that's the way she wants to describe it, she's Paula Deen.

[John]

I'm cool with it and I'm fine with that. I'm just saying before you just accept that and go on with your life, it's time for you to question everything you know that's good. Paula Deen is one of those things. Look, this is the holiday fever.

[Jeff]

I can't stand it.

[John]

This is a time for loving Jesus.

[Jeff]

Everybody hates you.

[Melissa]

Get it?

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[Jeff]

Bird Show Wendy this is going to be really cool for Wendy this week. I'm not sure she's viewing it that way at this point that it's going to be a cool weekend.

[Wendy]

Well, yeah, well, kind of. I mean, I guess it's a tradition being passed down to me. But I'm cooking Thanksgiving dinner for the first time and my mom, I said, sprung it on me because it's three weeks ago.

[Melissa]

A month ago she sprung it on her.

[Lisa]

A month.

[Wendy]

Three weeks is not a lot of time for me because I don't go to the grocery store. I don't like shopping. I don't even like cooking. I don't own mixing bowls. I don't own anything to measure anything. I use the toaster oven or the oven that you just pop something in.

[Jeff]

So do you go out to dinner every night? Like, are you heading to Taco Mac every night?

[Wendy]

Either that or I just make something that's really easy frozen. Like a salad. Like you can make a salad in two seconds. You just pour the lettuce that's already prepackaged into a bowl and throw some dressing on it. That's easy but. Or the George Foreman. You just put the chicken on the thing and it cooks. But I mean nothing mixing wise or having to do multiple ingredients, I don't do.

[Jeff]

So the extent of your cooking is the George Foreman Grill?

[Wendy]

Yes, I use that almost. Almost every day.

[John]

How long would it take to cook

[Melissa]

a turkey on a George Foreman?

[Jen]

Four years.

[Wendy]

Well, if you get those little turkey breasts, I mean, five minutes, they want you.

[Jeff]

Has your mom set up parameters? Like, look, it needs to be a 12 pound turkey. We need to have stuffing there. We need to have green beans. Are you doing everything yourself?

[Wendy]

I'm doing everything myself. I think she's gonna. There's like one dish that my mom just normal makes every year by herself, and it's just her stuffing that she has. So I think that's all she's making.

[Jen]

Mom's got the stuffing.

[Wendy]

Well, one stuffing. We have more than one stuffing. So I'm gonna be doing a stuffing, but just not that one.

[John]

Wow.

[Jen]

Okay.

[Wendy]

So, yeah, I had the turkey. I bought the turkey on Sunday and forgot to put it in the refrigerator. So I put it in the refrigerator on Monday.

[Melissa]

But you put it in the freezer, right?

[Wendy]

I put it in the freezer when I got home, but then I put it in the refrigerator. So that's taken care of. That's sawing, I guess. And then all the ingredients, everything else for my dishes are sitting on my counter. So I'm all set.

[Katie]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Jen]

Just gotta start putting it together today, right?

[Wendy]

I do. Yeah.

[Jeff]

I guess this, to me is seriously, like just getting your driver's permit and then somebody from NASCAR says to you, look, you're driving at Atlanta Motor Speedway on Saturday in the big race. I mean, there's no in between for you.

[Katie]

But I don't think anybody that hosts Thanksgiving for the first time is ever truly prepared. I mean, unless you're like a gin hobby foodie or Tracy Kenney foodie. Even then, I think you're still the average person.

[Jen]

I think it's a lot of food to prepare because you're preparing for multiple people. And yeah, you're gonna help.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

And if you're.

[Melissa]

If you're a foodie, if you're like a Food Network watcher, whatever. Like if you're Wendy, you just want to make sure the turkey's cooked all the way through and that the, you know, gravy isn't too runny and the potatoes aren't because everybody's gonna lumpy. If you're Jen, then that's when you want to have, like, the, you know, the more gourmet the presentation has to be. Right. That's pressure.

[Jeff]

No matter how good you are, I think that you're. I think the level of success for your Thanksgiving. Is this it? Actually, you won't be able to tell if it's a successful Thanksgiving till about four hours after dinner when everybody's gone. If you start to get calls one by one from people that are sick and are going to the hospital, then, you know, you didn't cook the turkey all the way through. At this point, I. I would sacrifice taste for safety.

[Wendy]

Well, I just want it to look good. I mean, I don't care how it tastes. You could fake it, but I just want it to look nice.

[Katie]

And Jen, I wanted to say that she told us yesterday her mom's gonna be there with her helping her prepare.

[Jen]

Oh, good.

[Katie]

So she's not gonna be in the kitchen by herself.

[Jen]

Well, I think the hardest part, honestly, when I first did Thanksgiving for my family and extended family and everything else, is the timing of it all. Figuring out the space in your oven and, you know, where the racks need to be and what time all the casseroles need to go in, what time you need to get the turkey in, what time the turkey's gonna come out, and make sure, you know, because it's all gotta come out and be hot at the same time. That's. I think that's probably the most challenging because you can follow the recipes and measure it out and put it all together in this casserole and that one and whatever. But to actually get it all to come out ready at the same time, I think is the biggest challenge.

[Jeff]

Here comes some advice calls for you. Good morning, Lisa.

[Melissa (caller)]

Hi.

[Laura]

Hey.

[Jeff]

Wendy is cooking Thanksgiving dinner for the very first time for her family. She doesn't cook at all, so what can you tell her?

[Lisa]

Right.

[Jeff]

The first time I ever did a

[Lisa]

turkey, those Reynolds oven bags are really

[Jeff]

easy and really good. Reynolds oven bag?

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Yeah, the oven bag.

[Jen]

So it keeps it all juicy.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Melissa]

And also, if people do get sick, they can get sick right in the oven bags. And it makes cleanup easier when all

[Katie]

is said and done, Much like an airline.

[Jeff]

Ronnie, good morning. You're on Q100.

[Melissa (caller)]

I'm just going to tell Wendy to

[Lisa]

make sure our turkey has a pop up timer.

[Jeff]

That pop up timer is really important.

[Wendy]

We got one of those. I got one of those because I didn't have one of those either.

[Jen]

Good, Steph.

[Wendy]

That's all set. This is like my mom's holiday. This is my mom's super bowl because she loves to cook. So this is her dinner. So the fact that she's passing it down to me is kind of a big deal.

[Jeff]

It is a big deal. Because, yeah, you're going to learn. And then allegedly, you know, you'll pass it down to your kids, and they'll pass it down to their kids. And this is the way that grandma always gets to stay alive. Kind of, you know, their legacy.

[Katie]

Well, I found it fascinating yesterday when Wendy and I were talking about how she is clueless going into this. And I said, well, did you never watch your mom do this when you were a kid? And she said, not at all. Because. At least. Because I said, well, my experience was that I was there and helping out as I grew up with mom doing all these things. And so I just found. So Wendy's going in this completely comfortable.

[Wendy]

I mean, I didn't even know I had to clean the turkey. I mean, I didn't know you had to get in there, get the gizzards

[Jen]

out of all the, like, pieces, parts.

[Katie]

She don't want to even touch the turkey.

[Melissa]

She doesn't want to use.

[Jen]

Oh, you gotta reach your hand in there. You gotta get in there with it.

[Katie]

Yeah, you gotta salt it.

[Wendy]

You gotta prepackage that stuff with nothing in it.

[Jen]

You gotta.

[Katie]

Thank you.

[Jen]

You gotta, like, reach on up in there. No, and the other. Here's a little tidbit for you. My mom always did this, is she would chop up an apple.

[Wendy]

Okay.

[Jen]

And put the pieces of the apple inside the turkey because it keeps it moist in there. Don't you have to keep the turkey from drying out?

[Jeff]

But isn't that, like, an advanced move right there? Like, shouldn't Wendy just be doing the basics here? Because. Okay.

[John]

Oh, Lord.

[Jen]

That's not advanced. Chop up an apple. Put it in there.

[Melissa (caller)]

Okay.

[Wendy]

Then I gotta go buy it.

[Katie]

She didn't even know. Take the bag out.

[Melissa]

Yeah, that's advanced, Jen.

[Katie]

All right.

[Jeff]

We really. I mean, I think you have to also set the expectation low for yourself. Like, this can't. This is not going to be your mom's Thanksgiving.

[Katie]

Right.

[Melissa (caller)]

Right.

[Jeff]

It's not going to taste like that. It's not going to. It can't.

[Katie]

And nobody expects it.

[Jeff]

And nobody expects it to. It doesn't. Have your mom set the bar lower for yourself.

[Wendy]

I just want something to taste good. One dish has got to taste good.

[Jeff]

People don't throw up and they remain healthy for 24 hours afterwards. You've won.

[Katie]

That's right.

[Jeff]

So what have you brought in? Rundy brought in one cooked dish for us this morning.

[Wendy]

This is a casserole that we have every year at Thanksgiving. So it's a vegetable casserole, and it has the frozen Vegetables. It has cream soup in it, shredded cheese, sour cream, and the French fried onions. And then you put a little bit of bacon bit on the top, and you just cook it. I mean, the oven.

[Jen]

Can we taste?

[Wendy]

Yeah, taste it. I don't know.

[Katie]

I hope.

[Jen]

I know.

[Katie]

Listeners are like, I'm just eating breakfast, but we're. It's lunchtime for us.

[Jeff]

All right. Do you want us to be honest or you want to.

[Wendy]

Oh, honest, yes. Because I don't even know if it's warm enough.

[Jeff]

It's missing a little something. Like it needs some kind of flavoring. I don't know if it's salt.

[Melissa]

Yeah, it's missing something called flavor.

[Jeff]

It's a little bland.

[Wendy]

Okay.

[Jeff]

But you know what? It won't matter. It won't matter on Thanksgiving Day because, again, you're not looking for perfection here. I mean, I think it's doable. It's just not. It doesn't have a lot of flavor to it.

[Melissa]

That definitely needs salt.

[Jen]

Okay, everybody can. You can put salt on the table. People can add their own salt and pepper.

[Melissa]

Put a lot of salt on the table.

[Jeff]

But it's warm.

[Wendy]

Well, that's.

[Jen]

I mean, at least that's a good thing.

[Wendy]

But, I mean, it's melted.

[John]

You know what?

[Katie]

And everything's.

[Melissa]

I mean, the fork works.

[Jeff]

Yeah, the fork is fine. It just slid right into my. And out of my mouth.

[Katie]

I think it's fine because I agree with them that there's not a lot of taste to it, but some. I mean, I agree that a lot of times with salt and pepper, like, I can't stand things that are over salted. Where my mother, on the other hand, is. Would take the entire container and dump it on her food. You know what I'm saying?

[John]

So now a whole bunch of these

[Jeff]

calls are coming in wanting to give you advice. I'm not sure which ones to take, though, because some of them seem kind of advanced to me. Like, Terry wanted to tell you to cook the turkey overnight, and that seems like a pretty advanced move. No, it's a good move. Okay, hold on. Hey, Terry.

[Lisa]

Hey, good morning.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Hey. My mom used to cook the turkey overnight years ago, and she just puts it on really low and cook it all night long, and then you have all morning Thursday to do all of your casseroles and everything.

[Jeff]

So at what temperature are you supposed to cook that at?

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

If it's cooking on the, like, 300 or 250 even.

[Katie]

That's what my mom did. And that way the oven's free on Thanksgiving Day for Everything else.

[John]

And then how do you keep the

[Melissa]

turkey hot between the time you take

[John]

it out of the oven and the

[Melissa]

time you have to serve it to family?

[Jen]

A lot of times it's not. A lot of times the turkey isn't warm by the time you serve it. And it's okay. You can tent it with some aluminum foil.

[Wendy]

Okay.

[Melissa]

But it's okay to serve cold. Turkey's okay.

[Jen]

You can tent it with some aluminum foil. And then also, once your casseroles and stuff come out, you can put the turkey back in for maybe 30 minutes to rewarm it.

[Jeff]

Hey, Angela. Good morning. You're on Q100.

[Melissa (caller)]

Good morning.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Happy Thanksgiving.

[Wendy]

Happy Thanksgiving.

[John]

Gobble, gobble.

[Jeff]

Thank you. I just wanted to tell Wendy that

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

the caller before that talked about those

[Jeff]

oven bags was so right on.

[Melissa (caller)]

Those things are absolutely amazing. But what you can do is about 10 minutes before you serve the turkey,

[Jeff]

turn the turkey upside down in that

[Melissa (caller)]

bag so all the juices flow back into, like, the breast.

[Jen]

That's a good trick.

[Jeff]

It's a great thought.

[Kelly]

And another thing to make your turkey

[Melissa (caller)]

flavorful is you can stuff it with,

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

like, thyme and lemons and oranges.

[John]

Kitten, what the hell is the matter with you?

[Melissa]

What?

[Jeff]

Do you understand what she's saying, though? Like, different flavors inside of it.

[Wendy]

Yeah, I. I mean, I don't know what I'm doing. So all this is going to be great advice. And my turkey will just be a fruit turkey. It's just gonna have everything stuffed in. There's gonna be apples, oranges, lemons.

[Katie]

I think for a first go around, I think this casserole, I mean, it's great. I think it's a great job.

[John]

Give her honest advice for a first.

[Jen]

No, I think it's great.

[Jeff]

It's for a first one. Again, the bar is set lower, Jeff. I mean, forget about other casseroles you had. Forget about the food you ate at Canoe the other night. This is her very first casserole, and it's a casserole.

[Katie]

I ate the whole thing.

[Jen]

And it's the one that her family makes every year, too.

[Wendy]

And I'm putting some salt on it. I'll put some seasoning on it.

[Jeff]

See, that was my debate yesterday, and I know we don't have a lot of time to talk about this. Should she continue the same foods that have been in the family for years, that they already know what it tastes like, or should she try something entirely new where they have no comparison?

[Melissa]

You gotta put at least one new thing in there.

[Jen]

I was gonna say maybe one new thing. But I think most, for the most part, people expect what the family usually has.

[Jeff]

So maybe start your own tradition with one dish, but for the most part, keep it in the family.

[Jen]

Yeah.

[Katie]

Because she has the recipes for everything. So I think when you start searching for this dish that you want to do yourself, that may be adding extra stress. Just do keep it as simple as possible. Cause you're gonna have a breakdown on Thanksgiving Day for a little bit. Expect that you're gonna be fine.

[Jen]

Stress, you're gonna do great.

[Jeff]

And dawn is here with just a safety net. That's all I'm saying. Just as a safety net. Go ahead, Dawn.

[Lisa]

Hi.

[Laura]

Love your show, guys.

[Jeff]

Thank you.

[Lisa]

In case the turkey doesn't turn out right, go to Popeyes today and get a Cajun fried deep turkey.

[Melissa]

I've heard from.

[Wendy]

I've already got turkey breast meat. I mean, sandwiches are the last resort.

[Melissa]

You're not gonna make turkey or you're using that?

[Jeff]

Oh, yeah.

[John]

Oh, yeah.

[Lisa]

We're smoking two and deep frying one too.

[Jeff]

But just in case, since it's her

[Laura]

first one, I thought that'd be a good idea.

[John]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Deep fried cave the deep fried.

[Melissa]

I've heard that from more than one person at that Popeyes.

[Jeff]

Put it in a room where you don't even. There's not even a possibility unless everything goes to crap. Everything else fails, and then Popeyes will save you.

[Jen]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Okay, Listen.

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[Jeff]

There's a big Football game this weekend between UGA and them. Georgia Tech is having an outstanding season.

[Katie]

Fantastic.

[Jen]

What's Georgia Tech ranked?

[Jeff]

They're ranked number seven right now in the country. It's a phenomenal year for them.

[Katie]

Top 10 teams.

[Jeff]

Georgia is not ranked in the top 25 this year.

[Melissa]

How come?

[Jen]

Just wanted.

[Jeff]

They're having a bad year, man. They're having a bad year.

[Jen]

I just wanted you to say it out loud.

[Jeff]

I can live with that.

[Melissa (caller)]

Okay.

[Jeff]

I'm really torn as a UGA fan on what I actually want to happen this weekend, to be honest with you. And I know this goes against everything that UGA believers feel. And I know when we get is it. I got two Jones.

[Melissa]

Joanne. I think maybe it's Joan, but we got two Joann's. 171, 174, I believe the young lady is a dog fan and the old lady is a Tech fan.

[Jeff]

I think this is Joanne.

[Melissa (caller)]

Older.

[Jeff]

Yeah, I think this is Joanne. Are you a UGA fan?

[Lisa]

I am.

[Melissa (caller)]

Okay.

[Jeff]

And you're 71 years old?

[Lisa]

I'm 71, yeah.

[Jeff]

Thank you very much for calling.

[Lisa]

Uh huh.

[Jeff]

Now Joanne, here's our feeling on this is that if you're an old school UGA fan, there's a different kind of passion, a burning desire.

[Lisa]

Oh, you bet there is for your school.

[Jeff]

Then there would be somebody in their 20s or 30s because they just haven't lived the highs and lows the way you have.

[Lisa]

Well, that's true with this team.

[Jeff]

There must have been some years where it was crushing to lose to Georgia Tech and other years that you were just absolutely elated, right?

[Lisa]

Absolutely, yes.

[Katie]

And my condolences on aga.

[Lisa]

All right. Poor thing.

[Jeff]

So as you're remembering back now, you've been a UGA fan for how long now?

[Lisa]

30 years.

[Jeff]

30 years.

[Lisa]

My daughter's graduated from there.

[Jeff]

Okay. Do you remember your first UGA game that you attended?

[Lisa]

I've never been able to attend one because we could never get tickets.

[Jeff]

In 30 years you've never been able.

[Lisa]

But I never missed a game on television. My daughter comes from Georgia every year and if she can't get tickets, she. She goes and just waits around and tries to buy one and usually always gets in. But she and her husband live in Knoxville and he's a Tennessee fan, but he went to Georgia. But she's got both her kids brainwashed and they're both Georgia fans.

[Jen]

All right, that's great.

[Katie]

I'm sorry, you're. I'm sorry your son in law is a Tennessee fan, but he went to Georgia.

[Lisa]

He went to Georgia. Yes.

[Katie]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Melissa here is a Tennessee fan.

[Katie]

Yeah, I was a Tennessee grad. Yeah.

[Lisa]

Okay. We've got something else in common.

[Jeff]

All right, so now. Okay, so as you've been watching for the last 30 years.

[Melissa (caller)]

Right.

[Jeff]

What has been the most heartbreaking part of being a Dogs fan and the best part of being a Dogs fan?

[Lisa]

Well, the most heartbreaking part would be when they would lose and, you know, come so close because I think they've beaten Georgia Tech more times than Georgia's beat them.

[Jeff]

Certainly Georgia, like, the last decade, for sure. Here's where I know I'm gonna lose you here. I'm a UGA fan also. I didn't graduate from the school, and I've only been following them for about eight years.

[Lisa]

Oh, really?

[Jeff]

But the sports fan in me almost wants them to lose this weekend. So we can. Here's why. I know. I feel like if we sacrifice this weekend, it's better for the future because maybe we'll get rid of that crappy defensive coordinator.

[Lisa]

Oh, well, I got you there, but I wouldn't go that far.

[Jeff]

Yeah, you can't go on some fans.

[Katie]

Of course not.

[Jeff]

You can't wrap your mind around Georgia losing to Georgia Tech and not being a good thing.

[Lisa]

I still have high hopes for him this week.

[Katie]

And that's the difference between her and someone who has only been a fan for eight years is, like, you said, that different. Like, it's ingrained in her. There's no way she could ever say, yeah, absolutely.

[Jeff]

There's a different level of fandom there, for sure. Okay, so let's get our Georgia Tech fan on with us also. Good morning, Georgia Tech fan. What's your name?

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

I'm Joanne.

[Jeff]

Hi, Joanne.

[Katie]

Hi, Joanne.

[Jeff]

How are you this morning?

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

I'm great, thank you.

[Jeff]

All right, Joanne, you are how old?

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

I am 74.

[Jeff]

74. And you have been following Georgia Tech for how long?

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Oh, far. Since I was probably 18 with my father.

[Wendy]

Okay, that's awesome.

[Jen]

Great.

[Jeff]

Did you attend Georgia Tech?

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

No, sir, I didn't. And all my children attended Georgia.

[Jeff]

Oh, no.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

My favorite teams in the world is Georgia Tech. And whoever plays Georgia, I love it.

[John]

There we go.

[Jeff]

And this is where we were hoping this was going to go because we wanted to get two people that have been watching and been fans of their respective teams for as long as you guys have.

[Lisa]

Well, you must have been disappointed quite a bit.

[Jeff]

No, not at all. No, not at all.

[Katie]

Well, I also want to say to Joanne, because we spent so much time on you, Jay, that Joanne, congratulations. On Georgia Tech being ranked number seven in the country.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Isn't that wonderful? And I have a pen I was trying to find. I think we have. Over the decades, we have four championships. I don't think Georgia has that.

[Katie]

She is. She's got her stats lined up.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Georgia more than they beat us, too.

[Jeff]

Joan, do you want to stick up for Georgia here a little bit?

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

I don't know.

[Lisa]

For my 30 years, I think Georgia's been Georgia. UGA has been more dominant.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Oh, they may have been more dominant, but we have the best coach in

[Lisa]

the world right now, NFL, and become stars like Heinz Ward. And

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

we have stars like Joe Hamilton.

[Lisa]

I never heard of him.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Oh, he was our quarterback. That I. Wait a minute. Let me see. What was the one last year that beat you? And this year, we are going to slaughter you.

[Melissa (caller)]

That's the consensus.

[Jen]

And let me tell you something.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

I have a family business, and all the guys in here are Georgia, except for one, and he's Kentucky. So he came in really going full this Monday morning.

[Lisa]

Well, we'll just have to wait and see, because I have Georgia. They're gonna come to the forefront this time.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

I don't think they're gonna make it. I don't think they're gonna make it Saturday. If they do, they'll have to bury me, probably.

[Jeff]

That's Georgia Tech, Joanne, right there.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

I get so nervous when they're playing, I can't even watch. Sometimes when the game's closed, I have to turn into something else. Well, but I won a lot of money on them this year.

[Jeff]

How much money have you won on Georgia Tech? Join.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

A hundred dollars even.

[Wendy]

Okay, betting woman.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

I'm a betting woman.

[Wendy]

You believe in your team.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

You either win or you lose.

[Jeff]

Hey, Joan.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Don't give any point or take any.

[Jeff]

So, Joan, there has to have been years past where Georgia Tech was heavily favored like they are this year. But Georgia won.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Right, right, right. And if that happens this year, I'll just die. I have my Georgia Tech on my desk with hanging the bulldog over. I don't know whether it's flea. Diaper, Flea dip. What it is.

[Lisa]

Flea dip.

[Jen]

Flea dip.

[Jeff]

Now, Joanne, I want you just. I want you to prepare yourself. Because like I said, I mean, I've

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

tried to prepare myself for it.

[Melissa]

Oh, my.

[Jeff]

There is a chance that. I mean, come this weekend, there is

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

a chance that Jo Cox might have a good game. But it's like my Kentucky fan said, Jo Cox was the best Kentucky player Saturday.

[Melissa]

Oh, God.

[Jeff]

Joan, you gotta help us out here.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Come on.

[Lisa]

Come on.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Tell her she hasn't been in the construction business for 70 years. And with all these young men that went to Georgia and are Georgia fans, and they walk in here with their faces is really down this year. Their faces are really down. They don't even want to come into my eyes.

[Lisa]

What about all those sad years you've had? You had all those sad years. You can gloat this year, but you still haven't yet.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

I still managed to get through them with my head held high. Well, I have a big Georgia Tech yellow jacket, stuffed animal sitting in the corner of my desk.

[Lisa]

But you don't have any help. Your children went to uga. My children went to. To uga and they're still fans.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Well, my Georgia guys are, too. My Georgia son.

[Lisa]

Yeah, but you're all by yourself.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

But he pulls for Georgia Tech when they're not playing Georgia.

[Lisa]

Well, that's their problem.

[John]

We got to give them each a pair and then talk to them on Monday, put them next to each other.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Well, I'll probably be. If we lose, I'll probably let them bring me in in a casket Monday.

[Jeff]

Oh, don't say that.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Let them go ahead and cre.

[Jeff]

Georgia Tech. Joanne, why is this game. I mean, is this one that you're putting so much weight in this one, Is it because they've been. They haven't been.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

They've been so good this year.

[Jen]

Yeah, yeah. They deserve it.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

It's really been good. And I think our coach is fabulous.

[Jeff]

Yeah. All points. I mean, the really. The pressure is on Georgia coach.

[Lisa]

Yeah, we have a great coach. That's the reason why we get the players. We get.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

But what players do you have a bad year?

[Lisa]

Everybody gets a bad year.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

But I won't.

[Jeff]

Hey, Georgia Tech. Joanne, what do you think about Mark Rick, the UGA coach?

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

I think Mark Rick is just too blah. Oh, my goodness. Oh, you've got to be kidding me.

[Lisa]

This man has character I love.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Oh, no, no. It's not character. When you're a football coach, you don't

[Lisa]

need that character, coach.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

You need some fire and get behind those players. You see, when Dak was losing the other week, when in halftime, what'd they do? They came back and won because he put some fire in them. I don't think Coach Rick can put fire in them.

[Lisa]

Like, you don't have to have fire. You can still have a lot of character and get the same job done. He just doesn't have the players. But he's happy.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

I don't think so. I love a fiery coach that's the

[Lisa]

difference between Georgia and Georgia Tech.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Right, Right, right, right, right. I love a fiery coat. All the coaches are fiery except for Margaret.

[Lisa]

Well, the bottom line is. Well, I don't like that. The bottom line is it's going to be a great game.

[Melissa (caller)]

I hope so.

[Lisa]

And.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

And I hope the best man wins.

[Lisa]

They've been saving up for all. They've been saving up all this year for it, and I think they're going to really come to the forefront.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Our turn now. We're going to take the next seven.

[Jeff]

Well, here's what we're going to do for you guys. Georgia's own wants to give both you guys tickets to the game this weekend. All right? So, uga, Joan, this is going to be the first time that you see a UGA game in 30 years, so we're gonna make sure you're there. And, Joanne, we've got tickets for you, too, if you want to go to the game this weekend as well. And we'll sit you guys right next to each other.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I have enough arguments when I go to the break when a Mets fan shows up, so I don't want to have a Georgia fan sitting by me.

[Jen]

That's funny.

[Lisa]

No, I wouldn't want that.

[Jeff]

So, Joanne, are you saying that you would rather turn down the tickets than sit next to a UGA fan?

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

No.

[Lisa]

Wouldn't go that far.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

No, I wouldn't go that far.

[Jeff]

Okay, so you both want the tickets.

[Lisa]

I love the tickets.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Do I have to go?

[John]

What else would you do with them?

[Jen]

She gets a better angle at home with her.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Can I give them to a granddaughter?

[Jeff]

Sure you can.

[Lisa]

I was thinking about doing giving to my. To my daughter if I. But I'd go if I had to. I'd be so busy. My daughter would just take two blood

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

pressure pills if I went.

[Melissa]

All right, listen

[Lisa]

and do whatever I want.

[John]

Well, how about this? What if we gave you four tickets each, and then you could bring your

[Melissa]

granddaughter whoever you want, but you guys could still go.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

My daughter.

[John]

Your daughter.

[Jeff]

So, Joan, we will give you four tickets, and we'll give Joanne four tickets also to the game.

[Lisa]

Oh, my goodness. You are wonderful. I listen to you.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

I might be old, but I listen

[Lisa]

to you every morning.

[Jeff]

Thank you very much.

[John]

But we gotta. When we put you on hold, this

[Melissa]

is gonna sound really crazy, but Joan and Joanne, give Joanna your information, and

[John]

we're gonna call you on Monday morning because we want to recap how the game went.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Okay? What if I don't go?

[Jen]

We still Want to talk to you.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Still like to talk to you. Yeah. Especially. Yeah.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Because you want to make me feel bad if I lose. Is that what you're saying?

[Jeff]

I personally probably will. Yes. I can promise you that.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Okay. Hold on. You got. Thank you very much.

[Katie]

Thank you so much. Y' all have a great Thanksgiving.

[Jeff]

Thank you, guys. All right, so that's Joan. She's 71 years old, big old UGA fan, but had never been been to a game. Now she's going. And you've got Joanne. She's 74 years old from Georgia Tech, and she is ready for a big time win this week. She's fiery. She's ready. It's your Georgia fight song. And we can't forget our Georgia Tech students from a couple of years ago.

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[Jeff]

Jen, you missed this yesterday, but, man, I was really, really, really enlightened by a conversation that we had at the very end of the show yesterday.

[Jen]

Okay.

[Jeff]

I don't think, as a guy we possibly know can possibly understand. I'm starting to get it now, the struggle that women have with diet and food all the time. And it was based on my theory. Yesterday I told these guys I was gonna be cutting a healthy trim spot, and in it, I was gonna put, forget about healthy trim for the next four days. Forget about your diet for the next four days. Forget about picking and choosing what you're gonna eat and what you're not gonna eat. Just to give yourself a mental break, you know, just to.

[Jen]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Give yourself four days of indulge and totally indulge and take the pressure off of yourself. And I thought, you know, then next week, worry about it, but at least give yourself four days where you can completely forget about it. And Melissa and Wendy told me yesterday that there's this inner dialogue constantly going on in a woman's mind that won't let her allow her to do that. It's like, not even a possibility for most women.

[Katie]

Yeah. Because I think the message got confused yesterday because it's not that we don't indulge on Thanksgiving, but there's chatter in our brain the whole time we're doing it. Because I said there's a bartering going on. Because, you know, I told him that there are women this week that are either fasting, cleansing, you know, eating just salads, doing something to prepare for game day, you know, Thanksgiving day, and the leftovers. And then I said, you know, when you're sitting at the table, there's the thought, well, should I have that extra roll If I want a piece of, you know, pumpkin pie, or, you know, let me not eat so much stuffing if I want it, you know? So even when you're trying to indulge yourself, there's a part of you that. That's always telling yourself, should I? Should I not? And it just never goes away.

[Jen]

And I think you also feel like other people are judging your plate full.

[Jeff]

Really? Even at Thanksgiving dinner, like family members?

[Wendy]

Well, yeah, because you always want to pack your plate full, but you don't want to seem too. Like you're too eager to eat that much food. I don't know. Because if you look like you have a plate full, you look like a pig. And girls don't want to see other

[Jen]

people are judging how many, like, oh, really? You're going to have another scoop of those mashed potatoes. It's really your inner voice, but you think other people are doing it.

[Jeff]

Okay, so let me ask you this then. If we're using logic here, the only reason why you think people are doing that to you is because you're doing

[Jen]

it to them sometimes.

[Jeff]

Because nobody has ever said to you, boy, that's a lot of food on your plate right there. One of your girlfriends or family members has never said that.

[Jen]

So I think mothers would say it to daughters.

[Katie]

Yeah, mom would say it.

[Jeff]

Have the three of you ever had a family member or friend say that?

[Wendy]

I don't.

[Katie]

Oh, yeah. Millipede. Millipede. Like it is. Yeah, because even. Cause especially if you have brought up that you're like. If you vocalize in our family, if you vocalize the fact that you're, you know, a little concerned about your weight or I really need. You know what I really need to shape up or get into better shape, then Millie, Pete, will. Well, are you gonna have. Are you gonna have a second helping some potatoes? Shouldn't you have this instead? So it's not usually. She's not usually a tyrant when it comes to. She's not food police unless you give her permission to be.

[Jeff]

It's not even necessarily what I'm hearing is. And I really feel like I'm on the outside hearing all this for the first time. It doesn't sound like food police to me, but it does sound like women are judging each other all the time on their food habits. Like you guys just said, you're watching your friends eat and you're taking it.

[Jen]

Other women, if you're judgmental of yourself and the food that you're intaking and you're body conscious or whatever, you're Judging other people on other things that they eat all the time too.

[Lisa]

Really.

[Katie]

But I think this is such a

[Jeff]

woman conversation because in a guy's world this is non existent.

[Katie]

But the thing is, you have to understand that women are judged mostly on their looks all the time and guys judge women on their looks all the time. So it is, you know, it's not just a woman thing and that's all she's ever doing. But this is the result of always, you know, and I don't know which comes first. If women judge other women, men judge women, I don't know. Wherever it came from, the culture now is our biggest asset is our looks. And so that the result of that is the fact that we're always conscious of that and we're always trying to maintain it. And then if we go over, because last night Katie and I were watching Biggest Loser and we were judging, like what we said last night was depending on a woman's body type, of course, so, so each woman is different. But on average we were trying to calculate what is the weight a woman would have to get to before she mentally gave up. So we were watching Biggest Loser last night and we said if a woman, if a woman gets to 200 pounds. So we thought if a woman got up to 200, that is struggling, you know, Let me clarify that. If you're struggling, you're always worried. If you got up to £200, that is when some women would give up and they're like, you know what? I can't maintain anymore. And then they may overindulge and forget about it and feel sorry for themselves

[Jeff]

because it seems like such a, to get large amount to lose that you're just like, I can't do it. So you give up?

[Katie]

Yes. Like if your ideal body weight. And again. And yesterday, Jim, when we talked about this, I mainly said, I think it's a, this may be a white woman thing. This may not be, you know, any white woman thing is what I'm thinking of. So if a white woman is struggling with her weight, and I know, you know, friends and family members and everybody that struggles, whether they're skinny or not, if two, if they got to 200, it would be like, you know, well, that's when they start when the real self esteem issues come into play. But if your ideal body weight's 140, you know, and you're at 160, you think, well, you know, it's only 20 pounds, I can do this, I can do this. But if you get a 200 then you're like, I can't do this anymore,

[Jen]

throwing the towel kind of thing.

[Jeff]

So I posted that on Facebook yesterday. The question that I asked you guys, what I wrote was my suggestion for Thanksgiving weekend would be to totally and completely forget about diet. Eat whatever you want. Give yourself a mental break. Wendy and Melissa say, women aren't capable of doing that. Agree or disagree. And the word that came up more than any other is regret and remorse. Like Jessalyn Kelly says, when I do that, I always get a feeling of regret. Aaron Ross says, I'm gonna eat whatever I want, but I will definitely feel guilty about it. Ashley Ray said, I agree that can be difficult for women. Sounds good, but easier said than done. Another one says the same thing. You can do that, but you'll always have that feeling of regret. So you can never really enjoy what you're eating. Even if you know you're overindulging. You're saying to yourself, there's a payoff for this tomorrow.

[Wendy]

Yeah, well, you're always trying to get down to your ideal weight that you want to be. And then when you eat, of course you want to indulge on Thanksgiving and have all the food, but once you eat it, you know you're not going to get to that weight that you want. So you do feel bad. You feel bad about eating all that food, but it's not until the next day.

[Katie]

I think every woman suffers from an eating disorder. I mean, because we always talk about eating disorders when they're bulimic and they're anorexic. But I think that this is so abusive to ourselves, because I'm thinking of the kind of the chatter I had the other day about. Because I'm a huge. I mean, I'm bad about eating sugar. I love sugar, Chocolate, anything chocolate. So I know that now. I try to regulate myself to where if I'm gonna have, like, indulge myself in some dessert, that I'll do it one time a day. So at lunch the other day, so

[Melissa]

you don't have dessert after breakfast and after lunch, because that's really what the holidays are all about. Dessert after lunch.

[Katie]

But I'm telling you, I'm being honest with you, that I had dessert at lunch, and then Katie wanted to go to dinner, and I thought to myself, you know, you know, like, dumbass, you ate dessert at lunch. You could have had a nice dinner with Katie where you could have not worried about eating dessert at. I mean, in my mind, who cares if I eat two days? I beat myself up, and then I just realized that that's self abuse.

[Jeff]

You know, let me just interject here just for one second, that not avoiding them, but there's one call that keeps coming in over and over and over again that I just haven't put on. But I want to acknowledge and that's. This is a white woman's problem.

[Katie]

That's right. Yeah.

[Jeff]

And that's coming in quite a bit. So I just wanted to acknowledge that.

[Katie]

Oh, of course.

[Jen]

I also think that on the opposite side of that is not eating in moderation and eating emotionally. And overeating is also an eating disorder. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think, you know, the policing ourselves to the point of making ourselves regretful and remorseful and guilty and all that kind of stuff isn't healthy. But I also think diving for the bag of chips or the cupcakes or the cakes or, you know, all of the junk food, or, you know, the fast food drive through every time we have an emotional stress or, you know, something's not going well, or, you know, you're on your cycle and it's up and down and you're hungry or that week or whatever. I don't think that's healthy either. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't think that one way or the other is necessarily the way to go.

[Jeff]

Here's Laura. Good morning, Laura. You're on the Burt Show.

[Melissa (caller)]

Good morning. Love you guys.

[Jeff]

How you doing?

[Lisa]

Thank you.

[Jeff]

How are you?

[Melissa (caller)]

I am fabulous. I am very, very fabulous.

[Jeff]

What's up?

[Melissa (caller)]

I'm just going to spill it out. 235 pounds. 235 pounds. White girl.

[Lisa]

Love.

[Melissa (caller)]

Myself, have been for over 10 years. I don't struggle with anything. I enjoy food. I love it. I meet men who love it, who love both me and food, and it's awesome.

[Katie]

What's your secret? Because I think you're in the mind confident.

[Melissa (caller)]

No, you just look at yourself in the mirror and go, you know what? This is what God gave me. And I love it. And don't struggle. I mean, just love it.

[Jen]

Good for you. I mean, I think that that's rare.

[Melissa (caller)]

Warm in the wintertime. You got to worry about that. There's beautiful clothes out there. If you go find them, have a little style, you know, have a great amount of confidence. Smile is your best feature anyway, on anybody's face. Who wants a miserable, skinny girl? I have a girl I work with who's 20 years old and is miserable.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

She's a.

[Melissa (caller)]

She's got bad body image and she's Skinny. And I feel bad. I feel so. And I try to get her to eat. It's hysterically funny. And I feel so bad for her.

[Melissa]

Walk back and forth with bacon in front of her and ache.

[Melissa (caller)]

Oh, you don't know. You don't know. And I cook all the meals when we do meals. I do all the meals at work. They hate me when I bring food in because they can't help themselves. I just feed them, feed them, feed them.

[Jeff]

In some ways, they must love you, but in other ways they must hate you also.

[Melissa (caller)]

Oh, it is love, hate night. And I'm good with that. And I win more. I win more battles. I'm going to win the war, but I win more battles than I lose with the food, with them.

[Jeff]

Do you think it upsets some women around you that you're that confident of being £235?

[Melissa (caller)]

Well, they've never shown it, but, I mean. And for being the older one out of the group, I mean, for them to give me the compliments I get, it's not every day, trust me. I always get surprised when they do like, you know, because out of the blue it's like, oh, I think you're this, I think you're that. But then again, maybe I'm an example. So I guess I try to be that too, to some extent, because I am much older than a lot of these other girls and I just, you know.

[Katie]

Well, it's probably a combination of they admire you, but they would never let themselves. They're like, that's awesome. I'm so glad for her. But there's still this fear in their mind to be 235.

[Melissa (caller)]

How I date. They said, you date more than we do. I switched over to a different site, a different dating site. I get hit. I get usually a minimum of four hits every day I wake up, I turn that thing on and there's four hits and I'm just like, wow, okay. And they love. In fact, I'm almost skinny on this website. I'm right in the middle. I'm almost skinny on this website.

[Jeff]

I want to say something that you guys might beat me up about. Do you think that some of these women use you? Like, you're almost doing more harm than good around these women. Because the message that they may see is here's a woman that's completely confident with how she eats, but she's £235. So I can't eat like that because I don't want to be too £235.

[Melissa (caller)]

I might be a Reminder for them to go to the gym every single day. But I don't. That's fine with me. I don't care.

[Jeff]

You're good with you. Who cares? Good for you.

[Wendy]

That's awesome.

[Jeff]

Good for you. Thank you.

[Melissa (caller)]

And I'm gonna eat like crazy next couple days, and I hope everybody else does, too.

[Jeff]

Good for you. Based on what I saw, it's almost not possible to do that. Like, at some point you're gonna have. There is gonna be a governor in your mind saying you're not allowed to have one more piece of pie that

[Katie]

you'd really like to have at some point every day. It's always there today. At some point, you gotta push it back.

[John]

Well, just so you know, I got

[Melissa]

breakfast for us all today. And those are low fat grits and there are zero calories in the biscuits. And the eggs are. Those are all egg whites.

[Katie]

Perfect.

[Jen]

Yes, perfect.

[Katie]

And I don't think it's a good thing, but I think it is just. It's just so ingrained. It's a shame that I think women, I think we trip ourselves up so much because we're so consumed by this that we lose focus on other things, you know?

[Jeff]

Hey, Kelly, Good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Kelly]

Hey, I wanted to tell you guys I love you guys. Jeff, I love your humor. I'm a northerner too, and it just makes me want to listen every day

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

just to see what you're going to say. I love all you guys.

[Kelly]

Okay, this is for Melissa. I heard you talking about that little guy in your head. I used to be a professional athlete. I swam in high school and college. And then I went on and did triathlons and weight issue because this body that I could eat anything because I was going to go out and run

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

or swim it off.

[Kelly]

Well, now as a mom, I had some children. I gained weight and I got to be that person over £200. So I said, okay, I want to go back to work.

[Joanne (Georgia Tech fan)]

So I went back to work.

[Kelly]

And I'm in this office with about a dozen women. All they do is talk about what you're saying. They talk about worrying about their weight and doing everything. And they eat and they talk about it, but I don't see anybody doing anything. So my suggestion was I went to the doctor and he told me not to worry about dieting, just to try to eat a little more healthy. He said, don't go crazy. Like, don't splurge. Like, trying to get rid of everything. Because he said, like, when you do that, then you're, you're starving yourself or you're mentally starving yourself and your brain wants to kick in and eat. And I'll tell you this, I've lost about £75 just eating the right kind of things. And not like, I'm not an, I'm not a health food person. I eat Dunkin Donuts in the morning. You know, if I want a donut, you know, now I might not do donuts at five days a week. I might only do donut twice a week, but I give myself that and it's made me a happier person and it's also helped me maintain my weight.

[Lisa]

Weight?

[Katie]

Yeah, I mean, I, I, I'm not like, like, obsessed with dieting and I'm not like, trying to do anything. My point is that it doesn't matter whether I was my ideal weight or not. The chatter's still there. And that's the problem is that it doesn't matter what size you are. You know, it's always this thing in your head, you know, but yeah, and I think it's, it's sad that women are constantly stressed by that because you

[Jen]

are happy when you're a little fluffier.

[Jeff]

Are you?

[Jen]

Yes. Like, it just in general. Like, I look at the pictures from when I was getting divorced, and dang, I looked good. I was so skinny, but I was so miserable. Like, and then like, you know, fast forward two years, like, yeah, I probably put on five or ten pounds since then, but I'm a hell of a lot happier.

[Jeff]

You can't define you as fluffy the way. Are you saying right now this is fluffy, Jen?

[Jen]

Yes.

[Jeff]

You're not fluffy, Jen.

[Jen]

I feel it in my jean, you know what I'm saying? All women can feel it in their clothes. Know you've got your own scale or whatever. But, like, when I was at my thinnest in the last 10 years, I was at my most miserable. But hey, I looked good in those photos, but I was like, miserable underneath, you know what I'm saying? So just be happy with the extra weight.

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