Full Show PT 1: Friday, February 13 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show: Full Show PT 1 – Friday, February 13 [Vault]

Date: February 13, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Bert Show features the candid, humorous, and unfiltered conversations listeners have come to expect from Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, and the whole cast. The main discussions revolve around wild Vegas nightlife stories, navigating tricky relationship territory with exes, and a lighthearted debate on the “fake gay friend” phenomenon. The tone is playful, honest, and often irreverent, with the cast sharing personal experiences and facilitating listener call-ins for real-world perspectives. (Advertisements have been omitted.)

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Las Vegas Escapades & Outrageous Club Culture

Timestamps: 01:01 – 12:22

• The cast begins with stories about the freedom and lawlessness of Las Vegas, often described as “an adult Disney World.”

  • [01:13, Cassie]: “It’s like an adult Disney World.”
  • [01:40, Bert]: “You’re just there to party if you’re in Vegas.”

• Abby shares details about a girls’ trip: luxury, clubbing, people-watching, and being approached by a bold group of men at the infamous club, Tris, with its three-story waterfall.

  • Clubs are described as “over the top” with wild architecture and atmosphere.

• The Pickup Line Incident:

  • Abby recounts a shockingly explicit and unrepeatable pick-up line delivered by a Latin man (“You’re so exotic...”).
  • The content is considered too graphic to be spoken on air, and the cast spends several minutes laughing, trying to find an innuendo or tame way to repeat it—ultimately failing amid laughter and mock horror.
  • [07:00, Abby]: “This was his opening line. You’re so exotic. You’re so beautiful.”
  • [10:01, Bert]: “You would have to be such a good looking guy to use a line like that.”
  • Reaction from the table (and his friends) is laughter and incredulity, not outrage.
  • Listener Joy is brought in off-air just to hear the line, and her on-air response:
    • [11:50, Joy]: “I wasn’t expecting that.”
    • [12:01, Bert]: “Can you imagine somebody coming up to you in a bar and saying that?”

2. Relationship Dilemma: Husband Wants to Attend His Ex’s Wedding

Timestamps: 13:34 – 25:13

• A listener (Monica, on voice disguiser) calls in: her husband wants to attend his ex-girlfriend’s wedding; their history includes three years of dating and questionable, secretive contact after their engagement.

  • The issue is complicated by the fact that the ex still emails the husband and his mother had wanted him to marry the ex.
  • [14:15, Monica]: “There was a lot of drama before we got married with her. Like he would go and see her while we were dating and wouldn’t tell me.”

• The cast unpacks the emotional minefield:

  • Bert acknowledges that, minus the sketchy history, this could just be insecurity, but in Monica’s case, the husband’s lack of transparency changes things.
  • Cassie takes a hard line:
    • [17:00, Cassie]: “If somebody has an issue with an ex, then why is it so important for you to keep them in your life?”
  • Bert relates with his own story about ending a friendship with an ex when it got inappropriate after marriage.

• Callers offer mixed advice, but the main consensus:

  • The husband is “picking the friend over you”—a potentially dangerous precedent.

  • Ultimatums are discussed, but Monica feels resigned:

    • [22:07, Bert]: “He would pick that friendship over your marriage?”

  • The cast feels Monica hasn’t drawn a strong enough boundary, giving her direct advice to insist on her needs.

  • [24:42, Cassie]: “Either he doesn’t go to the wedding, or you go with him. ... I don’t think you need to let him go out of town and be around her with alcohol alone.”

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3. Swinging Richards & the ‘Fake Gay Friend’ Ploy

Timestamps: 26:18 – 32:04

• Wendy enthusiastically describes her Pride weekend, including multiple visits to Atlanta’s male strip club, Swinging Richards, and making new gay friends.

  • She shares the upside of friendships with gay men: comfort, male attention without the threat of unwanted advances.
  • [27:46, Abby]: “Hanging out with gay men as a straight girl is so comfortable because you don’t have to have your guard up... It’s still male attention, which is fun, but there’s just no threat there.”

• Bert pivots, asking if any men have ever pretended to be gay to get closer to women:

  • Wendy insists her new friend isn’t straight (“not even an ounce!”).

  • Scott calls in, admitting he and a friend would go to gay bars, let men buy them drinks, and then pivot to chatting up women by claiming to be “bi” or “experimental.”

    • [29:23, Scott]: “We would pretend like we were gay... get hammered and then slowly move in with the talk with the women because they felt a little bit more comfortable.”

  • A second caller, John, says he once acted gay as a way to get a woman to stop pursuing him.

    • [31:02, John]: “It’s not the most manly way... but there was just no other way to get rid of this girl.”

• Bert sums up with trademark honesty:

  • [31:58, Bert]: “What you are learning: we will lie to get in and we will lie to get out.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Vegas:

  • “It’s like an adult Disney World.” — Cassie, [01:13]
  • "You’re just there to party if you’re in Vegas." — Bert, [01:40]

• On Outrageous Pickup Lines:

  • “This was his opening line. You’re so exotic. You’re so beautiful.” — Abby, [07:00]
  • “You would have to be such a good looking guy to use a line like that.” — Bert, [10:01]
  • “I wasn’t expecting that.” — Joy, [11:50]

• On Ex Drama:

  • “He’s picking the friend over you—is exactly what he’s doing. And that is dangerous.” — Bert, [24:35]
  • “Your wife or husband or boyfriend or girlfriend is your priority.” — Cassie, [23:18]
  • “I just think that... he still has feelings for her.” — Cassie, [24:09]

• On ‘Fake Gay Friend’ Strategy:

  • “What you are learning: we will lie to get in and we will lie to get out.” — Bert, [31:58]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Las Vegas Stories & Pickup Line Incident: 01:01 – 12:22
• Relationship Call-in: Husband Wanting to Attend Ex’s Wedding: 13:34 – 25:13
• Pride Weekend, Swinging Richards, ‘Fake Gay Friend’ Discussion & Listener Calls: 26:18 – 32:04

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Tone & Style

The episode is lively, irreverent, and full of laughter. The crew isn’t afraid to push boundaries (especially around the infamous pickup line), but always keeps it real and rooted in genuine camaraderie. Listeners call in and share their own messy stories, reinforcing the show's theme of shared real-life drama — with plenty of punchlines and empathy along the way.

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This summary captures the episode’s candid explorations of nightlife antics, complex relationships with exes, and the gender games people play - all delivered with The Bert Show’s trademark frankness and fun.

Transcript

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[B]

The attitude is just different in Vegas. It's just. I mean, it's all. All the rules are different in Las Vegas. You can become somebody you're not. You could say what you want, you're never going to see that person again.

[C]

I mean, not to give offense, but it's like an adult Disney World.

[B]

Like it is.

[C]

You go there and you're. You feel like an adult kid because you know that, like you said, you cross the border into Vegas and it's. It is a whole different world. And you are not responsible for anything you do.

[D]

That's right. We also talked about how in Vegas, you don't have to feel bad about being a tourist because everybody is.

[E]

Right.

[B]

Right.

[D]

Everybody is a tourist that's there. So it's like, you know, people walk up to you and they're like, hey, where are you from? Everybody knows you're not from there.

[B]

And it's the same mindset. You know, it's not like when you go out to East Andrews or whatever, that some are going to be there for some reasons, others are going to be there for other reasons. You're there to. You're just there to party if you're in Vegas.

[D]

Oh, and gamble. I mean, you just can do all kinds of stuff you can't do anywhere else. It's really fun.

[B]

So Javi was in Vegas with a couple of her girlfriends.

[D]

Yes. So we, you know, we had the, you know, awesome girls weekend. We stayed at an amazing hotel, the Four Seasons. And we got pampered by the poolside for every day. And we went to the spa and we did shopping and we did fancy dinners and we did gambling. One of my friends is a big gambler, so she played lots and lots of blackjack. And then a couple of nights we went out to the clubs. We went to go dancing, go check them out or whatever. And Vegas has clubs like nobody. I mean, I have never seen clubs like that ever.

[B]

They just do it so over the top. Like there's a club there called Tris that has like this 30 foot waterfall in the middle of the club. It's like, like Melissa said with Disney.

[D]

Than that I want to say it's like three stories or something crazy.

[B]

That's 30ft.

[D]

Is it? Yeah, each story is 10ft.

[C]

That's it.

[B]

How about that?

[D]

Really?

[F]

Yes.

[D]

Oh, sorry. Blonde moment. No worries.

[B]

So like Melissa said, yeah, it all adds up at the end.

[F]

It's not like a foot, it's like 12 inches.

[B]

You know, like with Disney there is just no. They have these imaginations where anything is possible. And in Vegas it's the same idea except it's all with partying, right? And it's all bigger and better in Vegas. And that's how every club is, right?

[D]

So that club that Bert was talking about, Tris, is one we went to. So there's this big pool, then there's all these like club tables, like around the pool. And then it goes into the nightclub or whatever and they've got like beautiful women go, go dancing on the, you know, on the platforms. And they've just got like the best DJs and everybody's, you know, partying, having a good time or whatever. And this is probably well into the night where people had, you know, had lots of drinks, whatever. So we were sitting out at one of the little tables and it was just the three of us just like sitting around having our drinks, talking, people watching or whatever, having a good time. And this group of guys approach us, of course, and you know, everybody, everybody in Vegas has the, you know, you're so beautiful line when it starts and you're like, yeah, whatever, you know, like move along.

[B]

And guys are moving around Vegas. I mean, it's like, it really is like sharks in a school. And they're looking for chum. I mean, they're looking for smaller fish to eat.

[D]

And so this group of guys looked like they were having a great time and came over to us. And one of, no two of the guys in the group were Latin. So I think that Latin Men are a little bit more aggressive anyway. Would you say that?

[G]

Mm.

[B]

I've never had one come on to me.

[D]

But would you say.

[B]

I think the cultures.

[C]

Yeah, I would say for the most part, yeah.

[D]

Just like, maybe a little more bold, a little confidence.

[F]

It might have to do with confidence, too, because Latin men, generally, the whole Latin culture, generally speaking, a little bit cooler and hip hop. Your average, you know, guy from.

[D]

I don't know so much about that with this group, but they were like.

[C]

This was the exception to the rule.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

They kicked them out of Venezuela.

[C]

The Latin rejects.

[F]

They went.

[C]

Latin rejects it is.

[F]

They went to Rio and realized they just couldn't handle Carnival, so.

[B]

So they're like, let's go.

[F]

Let's go to the States.

[B]

The women will love us. Let's go to Rio in Vegas. Isn't there a hotel named Rio in Vegas?

[D]

Maybe so. Well, and then one of the guys approached one of my friends at the table and said this line, and he started with, you're so exotic looking. You're so beautiful. Which. Okay, that's normal, right? And then the next thing he said to her.

[F]

Did he say it with an accent?

[D]

Yeah, I think so.

[F]

You're so exotic looking.

[D]

Yeah, it was kind of like that. And so already we were like, okay, what's coming next? And then this is what he said. Who do you want me to give it to first? Because I wrote it down.

[B]

Give it to Melissa first.

[C]

Are you sure?

[B]

Give it to Melissa and Wendy first. The women will take a look at it and be more shocked than we will.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Oh, no, he didn't. Oh, God.

[B]

At first. Look, is there any way we can. Innuendo.

[G]

No.

[B]

Innuendo Our way around that?

[G]

No.

[A]

Give me that.

[C]

No, I mean, there's way. I mean. Well, but it may confuse people because we can't say anything anywhere close to it. But we can try to use different.

[B]

This was his opening line.

[D]

This is opening line. This is walk over. You're so exotic. You're so beautiful.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[D]

I can't believe this.

[C]

I wouldn't have laughed. I would have laughed out loud, too. Are you kidding me?

[B]

Even Jeff just looks like he did a shot of Patrol.

[C]

Yeah, Jeff, you still think we can innuendo around that?

[B]

Let me check it out.

[C]

You gotta let Burt see that.

[D]

Actually, he's speechless.

[B]

No.

[F]

Hold on.

[D]

I told you it's awful.

[F]

Here's what?

[D]

Golly.

[C]

Unreal.

[F]

Well, no, I almost think, like, if we brainstorm the innuendo, we could use Bert as the test subject. Because he doesn't know.

[D]

Mm. Oh, I see what you're saying, but.

[F]

There might not be any way. Wow.

[B]

That's gonna drive me crazy. I gotta see that line.

[D]

I had to underline that one word. Like it was like.

[A]

It's just.

[D]

I mean, wow. Emphatically.

[C]

I'm trying to figure out what else.

[D]

To use on that one word that I underlined. It was emphatic.

[F]

There's no way. This can be.

[C]

Yeah, because I'm trying to find another way to say the verb. But you can't.

[B]

Okay, the first line again was, you're so exotic.

[D]

You're so beautiful. And then this.

[B]

What?

[H]

Oh, man.

[F]

There's no way.

[C]

Wow. Yeah. We can't do that.

[G]

Wow.

[F]

You're going to have to carry that paper around with you to every event that you do for the next six months.

[H]

Yeah.

[C]

You're going to have to ask Jen in person.

[D]

I can't. I couldn't say that. I can't. Really.

[F]

Don't even try. There's nothing.

[C]

Sure you can, because the verb is. You can't use the verb.

[D]

Don't.

[C]

You can't use the verb.

[B]

It can be done.

[F]

You can't do it.

[B]

You can't.

[D]

No, don't. You can't. You can't.

[C]

It was nice. Let me just say, it was nice to be here on the bird show.

[B]

I enjoyed being on the Burt show.

[I]

Everybody.

[D]

Why don't I. Why don't I bring it. Why don't I bring it to our next event? Yeah, there's our next 21 and over event.

[C]

It's the.

[F]

And I could seriously. Don't try.

[B]

The first part is easier than the second part.

[F]

No, there's no. Because everyone knows right now that we're talking about a sex act. So if you describe something.

[B]

No, because I can. You can. You can use completely different words. I'll do it.

[D]

Don't do it.

[F]

You can't.

[D]

Oh, no, there's no.

[C]

Thank you so much for the opportunity.

[H]

No, no, no, no, no.

[D]

Turn off his mic.

[I]

Yeah.

[E]

You can't.

[C]

I'm telling you, I enjoy sleeping in.

[B]

I'm telling you. No. It can be done. The first part can be done.

[C]

I'm just going ahead and saying goodbye to Pete. I don't know. I'm just.

[F]

It's not us, it's Bert.

[C]

Oh, so we have.

[D]

Seriously, we still have to get up.

[C]

At three, even if he screws up.

[D]

Seriously. I'll just take it to our next 21 and over event. We got one coming up. All right, I'll bring It and show people it'll be, it'll be a bonus for the price of their ticket.

[F]

There might be a way to like set a time tomorrow and never address what we're talking about.

[C]

Oh, because people know.

[F]

Right. But the fact that we're talking like you can't find a way around.

[B]

Yeah, I can.

[F]

Describing it. No, you can't.

[C]

But not right now. Is because people know that we're about to.

[B]

Because there's the association with what? That people know. It's sexual.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Then we couldn't even try it right now.

[C]

But what if we were to come.

[B]

On the air like at 9 o' clock tomorrow and just start brainstorming without even talking about what we're brainstorming on and people would just know then it would make it more legit. But that first line is easy. The second line is going to be much more difficult.

[F]

Well, you could say in like clinical terms, but you're going to lose the passion. Like you can say what. No, you can say what the gentleman wants to do.

[C]

I haven't been to that kind of doctor, but I'm on him.

[F]

You can say what the gentleman wants to do, but you can't do it in the way that he did.

[D]

Now do you see why we're laughing about it two days later?

[B]

Yes.

[D]

And do you see why I told you yesterday there's no way we could say it?

[B]

You would have to be such a good looking guy to use a line like that.

[D]

He was just bold. He was just bold and confident.

[C]

And so what happens? So he says this. What happens after that?

[D]

We explode in laughter. Like the entire. I mean the whole table cracks up. Even his friends that were standing around because he said it loud enough for other people to hear it. It wasn't like whispered in her ear, it was like loud. His friends that were standing with him started cracking up laughing.

[B]

It's so shocking that everybody just started laughing.

[D]

So shocking. Everybody laughed. We talked to them for maybe two minutes and then we got up from the table and went somewhere else.

[F]

Did she call him later?

[B]

Hey, Joy, you're on Q100.

[H]

Hey.

[J]

I was just hoping she would tell me off air what it was. I don't want to be on air.

[D]

I want to, I want to know.

[J]

What the line is.

[B]

Jeff, can you read the line to her off the air? And I just want to get your response on the air. So Jeff is going to tell you it and then I'm going to put you on the radio after Jeff says, hold on, but don't repeat it. I Can't repeat it.

[J]

I won't repeat it, I promise.

[C]

You don't want to do that.

[F]

I'm not going to say this to a woman. It's going to have to be Melissa or Wendy.

[C]

No, I think it's better for Wendy. Yeah, in this circumstance, I think it's best for you.

[A]

I don't want to say it.

[B]

Joy, hold on. Hold on one second. Wendy's going to pick you up. All right, Wendy, off mic.

[D]

The underlined word you have to emphasize, like, say it longer.

[F]

Now turn off Melissa's mic. And your mic, too.

[C]

I'll turn it off. Look at our intern.

[B]

Do it softly, and then let me know when you're done so I can put her back up.

[G]

Table, maybe.

[F]

All right.

[B]

Just do it.

[F]

Wow.

[B]

Okay, joy.

[J]

I wasn't expecting that.

[A]

I feel a little dirtier now that I said that.

[B]

Can you imagine somebody coming up to you in a bar and saying that.

[J]

Oh, wow, I'm speechless?

[A]

I. I just said that to a woman, and I'm offended.

[C]

It's almost as if. It's almost as if, like, he is learning the English language and he purposely learned those words, and that's why he just boldly said it. Like, he's proud of the words he learned.

[B]

Like, maybe the first phrase he ever learned was that.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

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[B]

Monica is now on the voice disguiser Good morning, Monica. Good morning. How are you?

[H]

I'm good.

[B]

All right, so your husband wants to go to the wedding of an ex boyfriend. This is your husband or ex girlfriend?

[H]

Boyfriend. Ex girlfriend.

[B]

And this is your husband?

[H]

Yes.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Okay, what's the history?

[H]

This is like the ex girl girlfriend, the one he was in love with.

[B]

How long did they date for?

[H]

3 plus years.

[B]

And then right after them you came along?

[G]

Yes.

[F]

Okay, so you're the rebound that just happened to snag her.

[H]

Oh, God, don't say that.

[C]

But she came first. That always is threatening. So now have you guys already argued about this woman?

[H]

Yes, many times.

[C]

Why?

[D]

Why you're married to this guy?

[H]

Well, there was a lot of, like, there was a lot of drama before we got married with her. Like he would go and see her while we were dating and he wouldn't tell me about it. And I think his mother secretly wanted him to marry her, not me.

[C]

Oh, so he went to see her and didn't tell you. Is that what you just said?

[B]

Yes, that does change things. That changes things a little bit. And this was before the two of you got married?

[H]

But we were engaged.

[B]

You were engaged and he went. Now is this sort of like he goes back home just to visit the family and she still lived in the same hometown and he ran into her or this was scheduled, I'll meet you at lunch TGI Fridays, 1 o'. Clock.

[C]

And didn't tell you about it? How did you find out?

[H]

Um, I answered his phone one day and then like the past phone call. There was a phone call from her and I was like, oh, God.

[B]

Oh, damn. That does change things a little bit. I gotta tell you. At first I thought you were just.

[F]

Sketching out, but what's most telling there? The mom intervention?

[B]

No, it's the going behind.

[F]

Say that again.

[H]

I'm sorry.

[F]

Oh, going behind the back.

[B]

Going behind the back and having.

[H]

Yeah, going behind the back.

[D]

How long ago was that?

[H]

Well, we've been married four years, so there's been like a seven year gap.

[D]

And what is the last time you all had an argument about this woman before the wedding came up.

[H]

That was pretty much the only thing when he was like, okay, so let's schedule going to her wedding. And I'm like, uh, no, not going.

[B]

Did you answer this? How often does he talk to her now?

[H]

Well, they still email each other.

[C]

Ooh, they do. Why?

[H]

Because they're friends.

[C]

So did, did the invitation for her wedding come in the mail or did he just inform you about it?

[H]

Oh, no, the save the date magnet is on our refrigerator.

[F]

Oh, wow.

[C]

So when you tell. I mean, obviously if you've had fights, you've told him that you don't really care to hear about her and have any contact with or what does he say? What's his response?

[H]

His response is that, like, I should just be cool with this and that they're just friends and, like, this shouldn't be a big deal.

[B]

I got two thoughts on it. Let me run them both by you here real quick. I got two sides of it. If there wasn't this history that he had where he went behind your back to visit her twice without telling you, I would say just get over it. It's your own insecurity. And if he wants to go, this is your problem, not his problem. However, because he has all of this past history with her and all this going behind your back stuff that does change things, and the fact that he's really not a friend of the family. She. I mean, she's not a friend of the family. She's a friend of his. And he has sort of, I don't know, sequestered you from their relationship. I could understand why you'd be a little bit bummed out about this.

[C]

Absolutely. I mean, I have a lot more conservative view about exes than others. And, I mean, I just. I think that I don't understand why you put the energy, especially now, if you both are fine with it. But if somebody has an issue with an ex, I do think that's wasted energy and wasted fights. Like, why. Why does an ex have to be that important to somebody? If your. If your partner's threatened by this ex, then why is it so important for you to keep him in your life? So I do have that view, but especially that he has lied to you about her, then I have a huge problem with it. I don't understand. I don't understand why he has allowed her to remain this important even though.

[B]

It was seven years ago they had all this nonsense.

[C]

Well, I mean, he knows he's, to me, responsible for all this, and he knows how she feels about it, and he knows how threatened she is about it, and to just callously say, well, let's schedule time to go to her wedding. I mean, he doesn't seem to be very sensitive to her about this, if it's that important to him.

[D]

Have you ever spoken to her?

[H]

No, I haven't.

[D]

So she's not friends with you at all?

[H]

No, we are not friends.

[B]

Some ain't right, Some ain't right. But all the advice Is coming in saying the same.

[D]

Do you think he's gonna cry at her wedding? I mean, do you think he's gonna be upset that she's marrying someone else?

[H]

God, I hope not.

[F]

Cause you know what? The. You know what you're gonna have to deal with at the wedding is you're gonna have to deal with him some point telling her how beautiful she looks. Yes, you're gonna have to.

[H]

Oh, my God, you're so beautiful on your wedding day. And, oh, he's so nice.

[D]

You're gonna vomit.

[F]

That right there is reason alone not to.

[C]

But I wouldn't let him go by himself.

[F]

Totally. No.

[H]

Because then it's like I'm the wife that didn't show up.

[C]

Well, he's just alone there.

[B]

I sort of had the same thing going on with this girl named Jay Marciano for a while. This was a girlfriend of mine back in California back in the day, man. I mean, crazy back in the day. And then every now and then, when I would go to visit San Diego, I would hook up with her and say, hey, this is way before Stacy. Right. And then after Stacy and I got married, we still communicated with each other a little bit. Like, I might have seen her in California once or twice. But then cards started coming to the house just for me and not for Stacy.

[F]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

And that's when you and Stacey were.

[B]

Living together, and that's when. Yeah, I think we were married after that.

[C]

Party foul.

[B]

And at that point, I had to cut it off with Jay, which sucks. Cause she was a solid friend.

[D]

But when she's an ex, she's already.

[B]

She's an ex. She's labeled.

[C]

When she's an ex, she's an ex. You can't go back.

[F]

When you're an ex, you're an exact.

[B]

Hey, Jenna, you're on Q100.

[J]

I think it is okay for him to go because he is married to her. Okay. So that it means that he loves her. And if this ex girlfriend is getting married, she obviously loves someone else. So I don't think there should be any conflict between her.

[B]

Good morning, Courtney. You're on Q100.

[F]

You're right on this call.

[J]

Yes, I wanted to say that I'm married right now and had to deal with my husband's ex wife. And it totally put a burden on us. And the fact that he went and seen her, I think is behind her back is horrible. And I also think that if he wants to go, she needs to let him go by himself. She doesn't need to support him in Going because if she supports him, he's going to think it's okay. But he does continue to fear her or talk to her.

[D]

I mean, have you given him an ultimatum? Stop talking to her. Or have you said, here's my line in the sand. No more of this friendship. Have you asked him for that?

[C]

Say that again.

[F]

What's that?

[H]

The ultimatum never works. Like when you tell someone to stop doing something, they just want to do it more, or they're just, like, confrontational.

[D]

You're avoiding the question. Have you told your husband you don't want him to be friends with her anymore?

[H]

Yes, yes, I have said that many times. Like, I'm not friends with any of my guy exes. Like, my thing was, is when you get married, the exes go away.

[D]

I just. So what does he say when you say, I don't want you to be friends with her anymore?

[H]

He just said that I'm being stupid or jealous and that it's no big deal, that they're just friends.

[F]

But Bert's theory, like, what would. If you use Bert's argument that even if you are being stupid and petty, if it is an important. What do you call them? Like a pillar or an important.

[B]

It's more important to one person than the other.

[F]

Yeah. In terms of compromise, sometimes one person has to completely sacrifice over another. So in this case, you can go to him and say, this is one of those things, that maybe I am overreacting. But I'm telling you that this is the way I feel and this is what I want you to do if you feel threatened. Would he do that?

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

Like, you can go to him. You acknowledge that what you're saying might be out of line, even though I don't think any of us in the studio think it is. But I think you can go to him and say, look, you may find this out of line, but I'm telling you, you and I are married. You're my husband. I'm asking you to support me on this. Even though it's crazy. You think it's crazy. Even though it's nuts. Don't see her anymore. What would he say?

[H]

He would probably say that I'm being petty and jealous and that.

[F]

And you acknowledge that and you go, yep, maybe I am.

[H]

He's still gonna go, well, then it doesn't matter. I'm gonna still be friends with her anyways. Probably still go to the wedding.

[B]

So he could energy. He would pick that friendship over your marriage?

[H]

Yeah. I mean, he's obviously picked it before because he's still friends with her, still emails her, and you know something right there.

[B]

Ashley, you're on Q100.

[H]

Hello.

[J]

I love you guys. Just so I can share that, but I totally understand how she feels and how he feels also. My very best friend is an ex boyfriend from about five years ago. He was my first, a huge deal. But I just started seeing somebody. I can see it getting serious and that's a huge concern for me. They have yet to forge a friendship. They haven't even met. And just out of respect for the relationship, I don't know how he'll feel about it. So I can totally understand him being torn between this best friend and, you know, feeling like this is a seven year, three year friendship. Yet I am now married. So unless he can manage to include you as his wife and make sure that you all forge a friendship where you have a comfort level with her, that's just.

[D]

It's.

[J]

You are his wife, his first alliance, and his. The person he should be most concerned about respecting and honoring is you.

[C]

Yeah, I totally agree. Your wife or husband or boyfriend or girlfriend is your priority. You know, and I think that an ex is in a different category because maybe I'm wrong, but the way I feel is your partner is much more likely to fall in bed with an example than a stranger.

[B]

Well, not on their wedding day.

[C]

What? I'm just saying in general, I think so many people defend being best friends. She just said I'm best friends with my ex who was my first, and it was a big deal. But da, da, da. So she has, so she has placed him in such this big role that anybody that comes after him, that has to hear that is going to be threatened or be second best to him when the person you're with now and your future should be your priority and not your past. And so I just think that he's being so disrespectful to her about this woman. And I don't know, I just think that. I just think that, I don't know, it may be something more than just. I just want to be good friends with her. I think he still has feelings for her.

[B]

Did you say that she lives here in Atlanta?

[H]

No, no, no. She lives out of state.

[B]

Out of state. Okay, so you have to fly.

[F]

So not only is he going to the wedding, but he's spending money. Obviously it involves a hotel room, unless he's staying in the honeymoon suite, but I mean, so now he's spending family money to do all this stuff that you don't want to.

[B]

Yeah, he, he is essentially picking the friend over you is exactly what he's doing. And that is dangerous.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

And I don't, I don't think you've been firm enough on how you feel about this whole situation because you just assume he's just gonna keep doing it anyway. But he will if you keep pushing back that boundary.

[B]

So there is really no final, like, consensus on exactly what to do. But it sure sounds like the theme is he's picking her over you.

[C]

Yeah. Either he doesn't go to the wedding or you go with him. Like, I don't think that you need to let him go out of town and be around her with alcohol alone.

[B]

The Birch show.

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[B]

So Wendy was celebrating pride this weekend also in a big way at Swinging Richards.

[A]

Oh, yes. Swinging Richards. I met this guy. I met this guy at the pool and it turns out that he was gay. And he took me out to Swinging Richards that same night. And then the next night we went. And then on Sunday we went to a drag show. So I just got my pride on this weekend.

[D]

Friends, I think it's hilarious you went to Swinging Richards not once, but twice on the same weekend.

[B]

And got phone numbers.

[A]

Yes. And got phone numbers.

[B]

And she got phone numbers. And I was assuming that at Swinging Richards the guys that danced there were gay.

[C]

Cause it's predominantly a gay crowd. It's a gay crowd. But, you know, maybe not because not all female strippers are straight. They're at strip. So I mean, that's just an assumption.

[B]

Are There any guys that are brave enough to call us up and admit that they have faked being gay to get close to a woman? Because you were saying, like, this guy now. I mean, you're so comfortable around this guy. You're having a great time. And there's no chance that this guy is straight?

[A]

Oh, no. No chance. Not at all. Not even an ounce.

[B]

Not one drop.

[A]

He's got a boyfriend, so, I mean, there's no chance. I mean, I'm very comfortable around him now. I've already taken a nap after the pool on Friday and 4th of July at their place. So, I mean, it's a very comfortable relationship already.

[B]

That's what you just said. It's a very comfortable relationship already.

[D]

Exactly. Hanging out with gay men as a straight girl is so comfortable because you don't have to have your guard up that they're, like, trying to, you know, touch you or get at you or whatever. You can just hang out. It's still male attention, which is fun, but there's just no threat there. So you just can be yourself, your guards down or whatever. And sometimes you have more in common to talk about than with straight dudes.

[A]

You're so much fun. Like, I had a guy come up to me at Swinging Ridgers. He was like, if I was not gay, I would date you. You're so beautiful.

[D]

I'm like, why can't you be straight? So tough.

[B]

This could go a couple of ways also, because we could ask for women to call in that have had guys that faked being gay in the beginning of the relationship and then had to come clean. But I'm assuming that if you fake being gay to get close to a woman, that instead of saying, look, I've been lying the last couple of months, you would just say something. You'd continue to lie and say, I thought that I was into men. But after hanging out with you, I've realized that it's possible for me to have romantic feelings for a woman.

[D]

Maybe that would be the way to play it, if you were gonna try to do that.

[B]

Are you offended by this whole.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, no. I mean. But, yeah, about that.

[D]

Like, if you're.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

If you're faking it, just say you lied just to get close to her. Don't act like she changed you or anything like that.

[B]

Good morning, Scott. You're on Q100.

[I]

Hey, how's it going?

[B]

Okay. How are you?

[I]

I'm doing well.

[B]

The assumption here is that, like Wendy just said, she's so comfortable around this guy, he's gay. There's no threat there. There's just. The defenses are down. She's comfortable. It would be a great ploy for a straight guy to try to fake it if you were bold enough to pull it off.

[I]

I had a friend and I this. Now I'm almost 40 now, but my friend and I, we used to go to, what is it, Backstreets, back when it used to be there. And we would go there and we weren't very. We were right out of college. We didn't have a whole lot of money, so we would go there and get, you know, buy, you know, have the guys buy us drinks and do all that. We were there. But at late at nights, a lot of the women who danced and did, you know, work the night shifts of bars would always go there at late hours. So that was a nice place to find women. So we would pretend like we were gay and the guys would buy us all drinks and we'd get. Get drunk and hammered and then slowly move in with the talk with the women because they felt a little bit more comfortable being there at the gay men. So it was an easy ploy.

[B]

So how did you make the transition if they're hanging out with you because you're a gay guy and then you go for something a little bit?

[I]

Well, sometimes it was easier enough to say that you were either bi or, or that, you know, you were experimental or anything of that nature.

[D]

And what was the reaction usually from most of the women? They didn't care?

[I]

No, most women didn't care at all. They didn't care whatsoever. They, they, you know, like I said, we were in our early 20s and they didn't, they didn't make a big deal whatsoever about it.

[B]

Setting a bad precedent here. Very bad. This goes another way also. Hey, John, you're on Q100. You are.

[H]

Okay, well, I wasn't necessarily trying to get closer to a girl. I was trying to run away from her for me to get rid of her, you know, try to be gay. And, you know, it just worked for me.

[B]

So how long were you, like, it.

[D]

Took you to determine that? I just don't like women.

[H]

I mean, it's not the most manly way to get, you know, run away from her. But, you know, there was just no other way to get rid of this girl. She was trying to on top of me all the time. And I was like, you know what? I just one day start acting gay. And it worked.

[B]

You were a coward.

[H]

A.

[B]

But B, how long were you guys going out with each other before you told us to her probably about.

[H]

Well, we weren't actually going out. She was just trying to, you know, hitting on me all the time. And I keep ignoring her, ignoring her. And she just didn't get the message. So one way that it worked for me was to act gay.

[B]

Did you go to a certain extent to where you would, like, introduce her to guy friends of yours and say that they were your boyfriend?

[H]

No, I didn't took it that far. But, you know, I was definitely acting, you know, I guess, you know, I was a good actor doing it because it worked.

[B]

What you are learning, we will lie to get in and we will lie to get out.

[D]

That's true.

[B]

But we will lie. The Bird Show.