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Bert
The Birch Show.
Jeff
We took a call from a Birch show listener, I think she said she was like 27, 28 years old, and her sex drive is just like out of the park compared to her husband. Like, they're having sex once every eight weeks or something like that, right? Yeah.
Jen
Turning her down constantly. And they have, what, two or three kids? Right?
Bert
How many emails did you guys get from guys saying, look, I'll help her out on, you know, on the DL, but I'll hook her up?
Jeff
That's just.
Jen
You send me her number.
Bert
I seriously got about half a dozen of them. I mean, like, from people I knew. I got like 20 from people I didn't know.
Jeff
We. So we talked to her for a little while and then we tried to get some advice for her, but I kind of felt like unfulfilled. Like there wasn't any real.
Jen
Well, there was a couple different things. I mean, people said first of all to leave him alone and stop badgering him about it, but she had kind of already tried that, Right. And then didn't she already try that?
Jeff
Yeah, she didn't badger him. And then they've gone two months without sex.
Jen
Right. And then what else do we say? Start getting maybe a little bit naughtier with him.
Jeff
Raise your game a little bit. Try something new. One guy said, just completely change everything. Your hair color, you know, your personality. Yeah, everything.
Jen
Change your name. Make him call you Destiny.
Jeff
So this is from CNN.com and it's sexually incompatible troubled marriages. And it says, I'm gonna paraphrase. I'm gonna bounce around all throughout this article.
Jen
It's actually pretty interesting because this guy blames the institution of marriage basically more than anything.
Jeff
He says that, look, if you think you're gonna have mind blowing sex your entire relationship, you're crazy. You're living a dream that you're just. It won't. Like I said, I'll bounce around from paragraph to paragraph. Sexually unfulfilling marriages aren't limited to new parents or aging baby boomers with hormone imbalances. They can ensnare even the relatively young and the relatively recently married when they are unable to blame kids, stress, or physical issues. Many couples struggle unhappily to identify and resolve the problems behind their lackluster sex. Laura Berman is a sex therapist in Chicago and says, we put the blinders on when we're dating. We focus so much on the wedding that we don't notice the warning signs. We talked a little bit about this yesterday. Like, you just sort of just assume that guy, he's such a great guy. She's so great.
Caller
Yeah.
Jeff
She's not that good in bed. You know what? But you know what? We'll get better. She'll get better, or he'll get better. As the relationship grows and it doesn't, and you've got everything else. And then you realize how big a deal good sex life is. Other couples enter into relationships with so. So chemistry because they think they're in love and overlook key differences. Couples wondering where the sex went should be asking if it ever really was there. And here's the staggering statistic. Therapists generally define sexless marriages as having sex less than 10 times a year. And they estimate one in five couples, 20%, are in sexless marriages.
Jen
That's less than 10 times in one year.
Bert
Once about every month.
Jeff
Every six weeks or something.
Bert
Yeah, five or six weeks.
Jeff
Klein notes that the expectation of eternally passionate sex may be setting people up to fail. People have the assumption that you can have long term, monogamous, hot sex. He says it's never been done on a large scale in the history of the world. Which I just don't agree with. Yeah, I just don't. I've seen those old people on that hbo. What was that show?
Bert
Not the real sex people, right?
Jeff
No, no.
Bert
Sitting around in a Corner at age 76 talking about Kama Sutra crap.
Jeff
God, that's Jen's next retreat. But once again, let me read that, because if you're in, like, a long term marriage, maybe you could say, yeah, that's absolutely true. I mean, and everybody in any relationship, not every time, is gonna be, you know, a home run. But as far as a general rule goes, is what he's saying is that the expectation of eternally passionate sex may be setting people up to fail. People have the assumption that you can have long term, monogamous, hot sex. He says it's never been done on a large scale in the history of the world.
Jen
Maybe somebody can prove it wrong.
Jeff
That is a bummer. That is true.
Bert
Yeah.
Jeff
This came in from a Birch show listener yesterday that said that, you know, what you didn't ask is that there are some guys that just don't like sex.
Jen
Really?
Jeff
That's what she said. They exist. She's married to one of them.
Bert
And who are these?
Jeff
We both know one.
Jen
Who are these strange creatures? You do?
Jeff
Yeah.
Jen
Do I know them?
Bert
I don't know if Bert heard the second part.
Jeff
I did.
Bert
Okay.
Jeff
Good morning, Carol. You are on Q100. Good morning.
Caller
Hi. Good morning.
Jeff
Hi.
Caller
You know, I wanted just to say that I'VE been married for 18 years. I am 38 years old and my husband is 43. And he does not want it ever.
Jeff
Has he ever wanted it?
Caller
Well, yeah, in the very beginning, up until like we had children. And then after that it was like, it's just nothing. I mean, it's. When it's convenient for him, it's all about him. And it's never about.
Bert
Do you think when you're not around he is.
Caller
Porno fights on the computer. So I mean, I. I don't know what physically I have done to make him not attractive to me, but he's not. So in return, do I think that women will cheat because of that? Because their man's not giving them what they need? Probably. So have I cheated? No.
Jeff
Yeah. I think the statistics show that when guys cheat there's like this, some physical need about it they can justify because it's just physical and they can separate. Whereas women have built up this, this case in their mind for so long and they finally give it into. Into it that in their own mind they say, well, he sort of forced me into it.
Caller
I mean, it makes a woman feel very lonely to not be actually wanted by her husband.
Jeff
No doubt. Thank you for calling. That sucks.
Caller
Oh, you're welcome.
Alec
Thank you.
Jeff
Bye bye. Yeah, that's not gonna be the only call like that. For sure. Hey, Cindy, good Morning. You're on Q100.
Caller
Hi. I was just gonna say that my husband and I have been married for about five years now and gone from a very passionate relationship to a non existent one. And it's actually my fault. I have no drive whatsoever. You know, we have two children and I just can't. I don't feel good about my body and I just can't find the drive to do that. But there's other things that you can do for your husband. I mean, he would never cheat on me. That's like not an issue. But I feel terrible because, you know, I can't move past this. And I don't know if it's a hormonal thing or. But it makes me feel very incomplete. And then it causes a problem because my husband feels incomplete.
Jeff
So you just don't want you. You feel so poorly about your body. You just don't want him to see you naked. You're taking care of him, just not in, you know.
Alec
Well, it's not just that.
Caller
I gained £100 with each one of my kids. So I went from 120 pounds to, you know, 200 pounds. And now I've lost back down and I'm about 150. But I still just. I. Hormonally, I mean, just. It's hard for me to have an orgasm. I just hormonally cannot find any kind of a passionate drive within myself. And it's not that he doesn't turn me on.
Jeff
How often, how often are you guys doing it?
Caller
It's probably been like two months.
Jen
And.
Caller
And I'm 27.
Jen
Are you on any sort of birth control?
Caller
No, I can't. I've had my two side. I don't have. I haven't had very good luck as far as that apartment goes. And so I have a lot of problems.
Jen
Well, you may. It may be something physically you should talk to your doctor about too, you know.
Caller
Well, I have, and she said that it's very common for women who have babies back to back to have that hormonal impact lens. But my kids are now one and three, and I'm still having it, and I just don't enjoy sex anymore. I can't have an orgasm. I don't enjoy it. I don't know what's wrong. We went from having sex seven times a day to not at all.
Yeah, I wonder.
Jen
You got two kids.
Jeff
It's not uncommon. I mean, the statistics are showing 20% of marriages in the country are like that. I want to talk to some of these dudes because I don't think if a guy doesn't like sex, the words have. He has never uttered those words before.
Jen
We use the voice disguiser.
Jeff
We use the voice disguiser. No guy has ever said, I just don't like sex.
Bert
But the guy that you mentioned, we'll say that.
Jeff
Does he just not like sex with his partner or he just does not.
Bert
Like sex, does not like it.
Jeff
If you're a guy, I want to hear the words come out of your mouth. I just don't like sex. 404-741. Q100. Hey, Craig. Good morning. You're on Q100. Hi.
Caller
Hi. Yeah, I've got a friend who doesn't like sex, and I'm friends with his wife as well. And we kind of get on behind his back. Like, not get on, but we kind of get together behind his back and plan it out. So when he's on his way home from work, I'll call him, be like, all right, you know you're gonna have sex with your wife when you get home and kind of peer pressure him into it. And then I'll call her and tell her, okay, this is what he wants. He's all hoping that you're gonna be looking like this. So get this together. And so, you know, so maybe that.
Jeff
Might work for someone like the ambassador. Between the two of them.
Caller
Yeah. He doesn't know what's going on.
Bert
So what's your first name? Craig. So you're the. Craig is the penis whisperer.
Jeff
Oh, yeah, he's the ambassador. He's got an A and an S.
Bert
And an S in it.
Caller
Yeah. I mean, some peer pressure would work, so if they could find a guy friend to help him out, you know, but.
Bert
So you're so his.
Jeff
Did you volunteer for that? And somebody asked?
Bert
Well, I think this is weird because, Bert, I want you to imagine this because, like, you know, like, Dolvett's one of your best friends, right? So I want you to imagine having a conversation with him and telling him what you want Stacey wearing and doing to you when you get home.
Jeff
Damn.
Bert
Then he gets off the phone with you and calls your wife and tells her how to dress and what to do.
Alec
Oh, not my house.
Bert
Hey, Stacy, what's up? It's Dolvett. You still got that French maid? Get up. All right, this is gonna sound weird. You have any mustard packets? And a Cabbage Patch Dog.
Jen
Don't, don't, don't. Your mind is too twisted to start giving examples in this conversation.
Jeff
Still no guy willing to say, I just don't like sex. Good morning, Casey. You're on Q100.
Caller
Hey, Q100.
Jeff
Good morning, Casey.
Bert
Hey, Casey.
Caller
I don't think it's the fact that men don't have sex. I just think that a lot of men are just willing to cheat on their spouses because I'm actually dealing with a guy. He has a. He's been only married a year, and we cheated a few times. And I've known him since I was 17, so I basically knew him since before he was married. And we more than just have sex. We go to the movies and we talk and have long conversations. We just hang out.
Jeff
Haven't we had this talk on the air before that. As a general rule, we asked women. As a general. No, it was guys. As a general rule, if your woman keeps you satisfied sexually, but even in no other area, like, you can't stand her. You can't stand her.
Jen
Even just the sound of her voice bugs you.
Jeff
But the sex is good. He will not stray.
Jen
I don't know.
Jeff
We've asked it before, and most guys called up and said, yeah, that's true.
Jen
Really?
Jeff
Yeah. I can get through all the other crap, but you Gotta keep sex alive.
Jen
You can be a royal pain in the butt.
Jeff
Do you think that's a true statement?
Caller
No. Cause me, myself, I think it's kind of a body thing. Like when I saw that he was married and I saw her, I'm like, wow, you went from this to that. You know, I think just because she doesn't pry in his life, I think that's what it is. I was the person who pride in his life. So our relationship ended and then he married her, so.
Jen
Oh, so you tried to force him to be more emotional and express his feelings and he ran from that. Yes, he's back and now he's back.
Caller
Yeah, but he used to cheat on her when they used to date in college, so.
Jen
Now would you ever get together with him if he left her?
Caller
No, not really. Because I think that's kind of a hereditary thing. He's a product of cheating people. So I think it just follows. I think people like that, they don't get out of that world. And that was the case, I guess I was married.
Jen
Boy, if you.
Jeff
I'll tell you what, man, if you've been around that your whole life, it is tough to shake. Those demons are definitely passed from one person to the other. Todd is willing to say it. Hey, Todd.
Caller
Hey.
Jen
That's not your real name, is it?
Caller
No.
Jeff
Oh, hell no.
Bert
You'd be on the voice disguiser even if you didn't ask for it.
Caller
Yeah, just a little bit. Yeah. I fully do not enjoy sex very much and I don't know why.
Jeff
You never have enjoyed sex?
Caller
No. And I actually just didn't. I didn't lose my virginity show just recently either.
Jeff
How old are you?
Caller
22.
Bert
Have you ever looked into a hormonal reason or something?
Caller
I've actually had more hormones tested when I was younger, but the test came back normal. Back when I was younger. I was around 16.
Jen
Why were you tested at 16? For hormones.
Caller
I was actually shorter. A lot shorter. They were afraid I wasn't going to grow. I was going to be a midget. I grew, but I didn't grow fully to what they said I was going to grow, but they tested all my hormones for that.
Jeff
Laugh at that out loud, huh, Jeff? I'm just talking to Jeff.
Jen
Well, and do you think that it could be because you don't have a lot of sexual experience, that maybe you would like it more if you had it more?
Caller
Had it more? I thought about that, but I don't know really, so. But I usually do have sex with my partners just to please them. Because I feel bad if I don't kind of thing.
Jeff
Are you. Are you gay?
Caller
Yes, I am.
Jeff
Okay. There's one guy just not just sort on the fence about gay, I mean gay about sex. You're definitely not on the fence about gay. You're definitely on one side. It's the sex. Stop the trouble offensive. All right, thank you for calling. Hey mom, appreciate it.
Caller
Bye.
Jen
Okay, you have to clarify. Is there any straight man willing to call up and say that they don't enjoy sex?
Jeff
Why would that be any different?
Jen
Because I think that physically it's different.
Jeff
Why?
Bert
Really?
Jeff
Yeah.
Jen
Well, the pieces parts are different.
Bert
Yeah, but aren't you still.
Jeff
A drive is a drive and you're attracted to.
Bert
What you're attracted to isn't that. I don't know if it's an, I don't know, urban legend or myth or whatever, but isn't the perception that gay dudes have a more active sex life?
Jen
That's the perception for sure.
Bert
So I would think it's more shocking if a gay guy.
Jen
But he said he was only doing it to please his partners. I don't know. We can't talk about the specifics of what I need to explain. To explain my point. But I'll tell you off the air.
Jeff
That'Ll make great radio.
Jen
I mean, I just can't say it, but I mean, I think that if you think about it long enough, you know what I'm trying to say?
Jeff
Like I don't really. I swear to you, I don't. Cause to me like you're looking at that as a heterosexual person. Yeah.
Jen
If he's receiving.
Jeff
Yeah.
Jen
Then maybe there's a reason why he doesn't enjoy it.
Jeff
Gotcha.
Bert
Oh, because I got it. Yeah, gotcha. What does that hand signal.
Alec
Oh, wow, look at this.
Bert
That's sign language.
Jeff
I don't know what you get out.
Bert
Of this, but maybe we should charades with Jen Hobby. She'll do the hand signal, we'll put the picture online.
Jen
It's like Whose Line Is It Anyway?
Bert
The Birch Show.
Jeff
Carolyn, good morning. You're back on Q100 and you're on the voice disguiser. Hey, hey, hold on one sec, hold on. Voice disguiser's not on.
Bert
Who touches this?
Jen
It always happens on our first day.
Jeff
What? Non Bert show hands. Touch the voice disguiser.
Bert
Seriously, why are you pushing buttons, you idiots?
Jeff
You know, there is actually a radio station on after 10 o'. Clock.
Bert
There's no reason to touch this. There's no reason. No. No reason anybody should touch us. Do you Want to go? I will go into the lobby. I will kick your ass.
Jeff
We're on the same team, dude. I'm your friend.
Jen
Inhale, exhale.
Jeff
Hold on one second.
Bert
Like, why are you touching this? You idiots?
Jeff
I'm angry. Are you back? Okay, yeah, I think now it's on.
Bert
Can you just count to five?
Caller
One, two, three, four, five.
Jeff
Cool. All right, Carolyn. So the last time we talked to you, you were gonna approach the girlfriend at Georgia State and just go, hey, I'm Carolyn. How you doing? I've been seeing your roommate now for, whatever, a couple of months.
Caller
I had spring break last week, so I didn't get to meet her. But I did run into some other people that confronted me that. Yeah, you're right. I am the other woman.
Bert
They heard you on the radio. They heard you on the radio or something?
Caller
No, they just knew about us. About both of us.
Jen
They knew about you.
Jeff
You got me all confused. So if they knew the whole triangle that was going on and they're your friends and why didn't you. Why didn't they tell you before that this guy was jacking around on you?
Caller
She wasn't a friend.
Jeff
Oh, okay.
Caller
Yeah.
Jen
So the girl who came up and told you was a friend of his girlfriend's?
Caller
Not exactly, but she was an ex of his and met the roommate, so she kind of knows that whole situation.
Jen
And she also knows you.
Caller
Uh huh.
Jen
Okay.
Jeff
Sounds strange. So after you found out that you were the other woman, did you approach your boyfriend?
Caller
Mm, yeah, we're done.
Jeff
Yeah, I bet that was pretty short conversation.
Caller
Pretty short.
He doesn't have any excuses to, you know, cover it up.
Jeff
How long were y' all going out?
Caller
Six or seven months.
Jeff
Man, how can you go that long?
Jen
Juggling.
Jeff
Juggling like that. And yeah, he must have been working. That dude was working hard. When did you first have some suspicions that. Okay, this isn't right.
Caller
Do what?
Bert
When did you think it was? When did you. Well, she. It was on the phone with us. She had no idea, remember, until she was on the phone with us.
Jeff
You don't sound too broken up about it, though.
Caller
I'm a lot better now.
Jen
How long have you had to process it?
Caller
Probably about four days.
Jeff
Is it one of those things where it's almost like that movie, the Sixth Sense? Like once you find out the information, then you start looking back through the movie, then it all makes sense all of a sudden?
Caller
Second, I'm tired of all the excuses and everything that he says now. It's just. I just don't want to hear Anymore?
Jen
Yeah. Now. Are he and his girlfriend still together? Do you know?
Alec
They still live together.
Jen
Really?
Bert
Do you know if she knows? Like, have you thought about telling her anything?
Caller
I thought about it. I go back to school tomorrow, so. We'll see.
Jen
Little revenge.
Jeff
Did you see? It's probably not up yet, but I sent Tracy a video yesterday of a woman that just found out that she got cheated on. And I think it's in New York City. And she had one of these moments of just absolute. She stepped into crazy. She took all of her boyfriend's stuff that must have been over at her house where they lived together. I'm talking about golf clubs, HGTVs, all of his clothes, all sorts of stuff. And pulls up outside of a New York City restaurant and opens up the truck doors and starts giving his stuff away. She's screaming and yelling and throwing all of his stuff on the floor while people are collecting these TVs and golf clubs and money and stuff. Like you may. That kind of moment may be ahead of you.
Jen
Are you sure that's not an actor? That sounds like a New York City. Like some sort of acting group putting something up on YouTube.
Jeff
It could be. We're have the video up. It could be up already at all the hits q100.com but that kind of psycho stepping in a psycho, that kind of anger could be in you like the first time you see that woman. Even though she's probably an innocent party in this whole thing also.
Jen
And she may not know.
Jeff
She may not know, you know, who knows what you'll do.
Caller
I do miss him a lot. I wish it never happened, but I mean, things happen. I have to deal with it.
Jeff
You're not gonna go back with this guy?
Caller
No.
Jeff
Okay.
Jen
What if he says I'm breaking up with my girlfriend, I'm moving out. I've realized you're the one I'm supposed to be with.
Bert
You can answer that. Jen.
Jen
Are you gonna go? Are you gonna get back together with him? If he said you're the one, I realize you're the one.
Bert
Why are you giving her any hope?
Jen
Well, I'm just asking hypothetically.
Caller
He's already started saying that, so it would be a while to even think about it again.
Jeff
I don't know what a 30 year old dude's date an 18 year old for anyway. I gotta be honest with you.
Bert
I can tell you why.
Jeff
Right. Okay. I don't know that there's anything else we need to go over. Really?
Jen
Well, we need to find out if you actually approach the girl on campus. Or if you guys get back together, will you let us know?
Caller
I'll let you know.
Alec
Yeah.
Jeff
Hold on, Bubba. Bubba's got advice for you.
Caller
Okay?
Take the advice from the ex girlfriend.
Jeff
What do you mean?
Bert
What?
Caller
Well, remember a while back when you had the 18 year old that stole the. The boyfriend away, and the girl is trying to get rid of the 18 year old? She should be telling her this just to get her out of the picture. She didn't get her boyfriend back.
Bert
It wasn't that. But yeah, he's. It wasn't the ex girl. It wasn't the current girlfriend who told her that.
Caller
No, I know, but I'm saying she was trying to find a way to get the 18 year old out of the picture.
Jeff
Yeah, but it wasn't the girlfriend.
Bert
Yeah, it wasn't the girlfriend who told him that.
Jen
It's just a mutual friend of all of them that spilled the beans. Right.
Jeff
Carolyn, we'll have to follow up with you just to find out how this whole thing went down. But we saw the writing on the wall, and you probably knew also. Like, in your heart, you also knew.
Caller
Yeah.
Jeff
Okay.
Jen
I think I have a feeling they're gonna get back together.
Bert
Totally.
Jeff
You think you'll get back together with this dude?
Caller
Probably not.
Jeff
Probably this dude has been living with another woman for seven months while you were going out with him, and the best you can do is probably.
Alec
No, no.
Jen
We are forgiving gender.
Jeff
Hell no.
Jen
We're forgiving people. Women.
Jeff
See, this is the reason right here. Guys hear this and they're like, we could take advantage of women as much as we want. I mean, what else does he have to do?
Bert
It's almost not even considered taking advantage of. It's just.
Jeff
Yeah. You guys will put up with it, right? Melinda, good Morning. You're on Q100. Hey.
Caller
Hi.
Jeff
What's up?
Caller
Now, I've been in her situation and it lasted for a year.
Jeff
A year? How do you not know?
Caller
For a year I was stupid, naive, in love, and just blonde.
Jen
And then once you found out you were the other woman, what'd you do?
Caller
Oh, I went down. Well, she called me. Apparently she had found the phone numbers on his cell phone bill and call me and asked me who it was. And I told her my name. And I was like, who is this? And she told me who she was. I'm like. She says, are you seeing him? I said, yes. And she says, for how long? I said, for the past year. She says, well, I've been living with him for seven years. I'm like, okay. And about that time he beeps in, he was on his way over. This is New Year's, last year, New Year's night, just before 12 o'.
Alec
Clock.
Caller
And so I asked him who she was. I was like, who is Michelle? He goes, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't play that with me. I know what's going on. So he goes, let me call you back. That was dead giveaway day giveaway. Because he had to hurry up and go home or call her or something. So me and her keep talking and so I talked to her a little bit. Then I end up going down to the club where some friends were for New Year's, end up getting drunk. And because I'm mad, I call him telling him he needs to meet with me, we need to talk, we need to find out what's going on. And he shows up. I beat the crap out of him in the parking lot. Almost go to jail.
Jen
No.
Bert
Yes, you did go to jail or you almost went to jail.
Caller
Almost went to jail. I had some friends backing me up and he didn't press charges or anything because he knew what he had coming. He deserved it.
Jeff
As a guy. When you show up to the office and you got black eyes and stuff, people ask you what happened. You have to make something up.
Caller
He was six, four, like 300 and something pounds.
Jeff
Yeah, you have to make up a real good story because you can't say my girlfriend beat me up.
Jen
And that's some anger.
Jeff
That's serious anger. You can understand it. Totally justifiable. Hey Richard, you're on Q100. Good morning.
Caller
Yeah, quick comment about that 18 year old you just had on with a 30 year old date.
Jeff
Country Richard. Hey man. Country Richard.
Jen
What's up?
Caller
Not much. But back to that girl, man. Woman ought to be clobbered with a jackhammer. I can't stand, I can't stand people like this taking advantage of 30 year old men that are 10 to 20 years older than, than she is. She obviously wanted something out of him and that's why she. Yes, that's why she continued to pursue this whole thing even though, you know, she, she knew that something was going on with the so called roommate.
Jeff
So you say that she was taking advantage of him, not the other way around?
Caller
Yeah, I mean, sure, the guy was, you know, being a player, you know, he ought to have his lights turned off for that. But it's just, it's been, it's been a pattern. I've been noticing, you know, these little college, high school to college age. You know, girls, which you are like.
Jeff
How old are you?
Caller
21.
Jeff
Okay, Richard, always. So we've had Richard on before. He talks like he's 62 years old.
Bert
It's important to point out his age.
Jeff
Go ahead, Richard.
Jen
Because he doesn't sound it at all.
Jeff
Right.
Caller
Yeah, well, that. Anyway, that's all I gotta say about that one. I appreciate you having me on.
Jeff
All right, Richard. Thank you, man.
Bert
Thanks for listening. Bye.
Jeff
Bye. All right, Caroline, let's follow up with you in a couple of weeks. Do not go back with this guy. What are you thinking now?
Caller
Okay.
Jen
All right.
Jeff
Come on.
Jen
But he says she's the one. He's realized.
Jeff
No, he hasn't. Here where the seeds of self respect start right now. Okay? Do not go back with this guy. You're not going to listen to us. Talk to you later.
Jen
Let Bert be your relationship sensei.
Jeff
She's not going to listen to us. They never listen to us.
Bert
Javi went to yoga camp and she meditated. And she knows she's got clarity that.
Jeff
None of us can understand right now. The Burt Show. Hey, look, if you're having a problem in your relationship right now, maybe the advice that you've been getting is bad because you've been asking other adults. You know what, they're just. They're jaded because by their own bad experience relationships and they're not giving you proper advice. Well, we've got Alec on the phone here. He's eight years old and you can call and you can ask him any problem that you're having. Ask him for some advice. He'll keep it real with you.
Jen
That's right.
Jeff
404741. Q100. Why is Alex such an expert on this? Because he had a best selling book. It wasn't on the New York best selling list, but it did sell the most copies at the Soaring Hawk Middle School Book Fair.
Jen
And what I think is really cool is it's been reviewed by his classmates. So it's like a real book and real bestseller. Because it's got reviews, too.
Jeff
Here are some of the reviews. Steven Falvey calls it fun and engaging. Oh, no, that was Alec.
Jen
Do you need a hug, Bert, like right now?
Jeff
I'm not gonna lie. I'm getting a little irritated.
Jen
Is it the hug that. Is it the hug that it's nurturing or the hug that's gonna keep me from getting you to punch the phone?
Jeff
Trying to keep. Give me something. Give me some kind of chant here to make it.
Bert
Hobby.
Jeff
Hobby. I'm calling on you right now, keep me balanced. Repeat after me, okay?
Jen
Om.
Jeff
Om namah, Namah Shivaya. Shivaya.
Jen
That's the mantra that a lot of the yogis repeat over and over again. Om Namah shivaya. Om namah Shivaya.
Bert
Which means these people are suckers. These people are suckers. That's what all the yogi people are chasing.
Jen
That's just Jeff's negative energy. Don't let it pervade you.
Jeff
Here is 8 year old Alex. He has a 7 chapter book called how to Talk to Girls and they love it at Soaring Hawk. What's going on, Alec?
Alec
Nothing really.
Jeff
How are things going with you today?
Alec
Well, there hasn't been really anything today.
Jen
Okay. But I mean, you're a celebrity now, so, I mean, how does it feel to be a celebrity?
Alec
Really, really cool.
Jen
Yeah, I bet.
Jeff
Now, have you found that since your book came out, how to Talk to Girls, that more girls are actually talking to you?
Alec
Yes, but I don't really want to pick a girl right now. And I have a bad choice with girls. If I pick one and then like she starts he onto me and then I, like, it's all crazy and everything.
Jeff
So are there a couple of girls that are kind of like talking to you and are any of them forcing you to make a decision on the two of them?
Alec
Well, they are fighting over who I would like best.
Bert
Oh.
Jen
Have you told them which one you like best, though?
Alec
Well, I just overheard them talking about it.
Jeff
Okay, well, I think this is a good place to get some advice from you. Like if there is a guy listening right now, even an adult guy, and there are two women that are pressuring him into a relationship saying, look, you need to date me, not the other girl. What can he learn from your experience? How do you handle that?
Alec
You should usually, unless you like one girl, just like get rid of both of them so it doesn't turn into a big fight.
Caller
Okay.
Jen
All right. Start fresh.
Jeff
So rather than create.
Alec
Okay, I'm just gonna go now.
Jen
Okay. I have a question.
Alec
Both of them, unless you like one.
Jen
Okay. I'd like to get your advice on something. If a girl likes a boy, but the boy is just ignoring her, what should she do to get his attention?
Alec
Oh, that's kind of like a girl fact.
Bert
Oh, what do you mean?
Alec
Like if a boy's ignoring a girl, but a girl wants to get them. Yeah, that's kind of a girl. That's kind of girl fact. So you'll need to ask girls about that. If you flip it over. When a girl is ignoring a Boy, then that is probably what you have to do, is just get her attention. Like be really cool and like, do something. Like do something really, really good at school or get straight A's on your report card.
Jen
And then you have to tell her about the straight A's too, right?
Alec
Yeah, do all sorts of things and just do something really, really cool or do something great. Then they'll at least get her attention.
Jeff
So what I'm hearing you say here is that you have to sort of set yourself apart from the rest of the pack. Make yourself special and make her know that you're special.
Alec
What do you mean?
Jeff
I think I was just reiterating what you were saying. Yeah, reiterating.
Alec
Try to make her, get her to get your attention.
Jeff
Okay, that makes perfect sense to me. Donovan here has a question for you. Hey, Donovan, you're on Q100.
Caller
Morning, Alex. How you doing, buddy? I tend to have issues making commitments with girls. Apparently can't take it to the next level.
Jeff
So all these girls are asking you, look, just be with me.
Alec
Be with, be with me.
Jeff
And you're too scared, man.
Caller
You know, I've had the serious ones before. You get your heart broken all the time, so. And I enjoy just being single and having fun, so, you know, I get torn. I usually have a three month rule.
Bert
Curiosity. Donovan, how old are you?
Caller
I am 26 years old.
Bert
All right, this kid's. You're three times this kid's age and.
Jeff
He'S probably gonna give some like, wise, sage advice. Alright, Alex, so what do you do for the guys that are scared to like, hang out with girls for a long period of time? What kind of advice can you give to Donovan?
Alec
Well, you kind of have to get used to it.
Caller
Get used to hanging out with the girls?
Alec
Well, yeah, you have to get used to it. If you're too scared, then do something else, you know, or get their phone number and start the relationship. If you can't hang out with the girl just yet, try to at least talk to her without like going out and start hanging out, you know.
Caller
I.
Jen
Think that's actually a really good idea because he's saying if you talk to the woman instead of hanging out with her in person, maybe you could develop something further. I think it's great advice.
Jeff
Hey, Alec, what do you do when a. When a girl ditches you? Like, I mean, let's say there's a guy listening right now. He's all broken up because he was really liking a girl and she just, she said, look, I don't want anything to do with you.
Alec
Life is hard. Move on.
Jeff
Just move on. Yeah, you guys gotta get over it.
Alec
Life is hard because if you let it sink in, it'll make you even more sad.
Jen
That's true.
Jeff
So the first day that you can just get over it and move on.
Alec
Yet if you don't get over it, it'll make you too sad. And most boys, if they can't get over it, they go crazy.
Jeff
Yeah. I was going to take Julie's call, but it's kind of a serious one. Even though she's having problems with her son at 7 years old and he's, he's thinking about kissing girls all the time. All the time.
Alec
So how do you get him off of it?
Jen
Well, it's.
Jeff
His mom is a little bit like upset about it. Hold on. Let's get her on.
Bert
Don't you think that, do you think Alex, seven is too young to be focused on girls and kissing?
Jeff
Well, her son is seven. That's what I think she's worried about.
Alec
There's two types of kisses. One is a quick cheek kiss. That's just like when you give them a quick kiss on the cheek. That's for about like this is just my advice. Anyone can do it whenever they want. It's just like this is where probably the best times are.
Bert
Okay.
Alec
Like the starting middle school, I think you can start like quick cheek kisses, right. And then like rip kisses, you know, like those long whip love kisses and weddings, you know?
Jen
Yeah.
Alec
So those are probably going to be in like the middle of high school.
Jen
Okay.
Bert
So the wedding kisses happen starting in the middle of high school. Just out of curio. Just curious, Alec, what age do you think people should get married?
Alec
Married? Maybe like 25.
Jen
Okay.
Jeff
All right, that's not a bad answer.
Bert
And what's a good amount of time to be engaged?
Alec
I don't really know. Maybe about like 23.
Bert
Maybe get engaged at 23 and get married at 25.
Alec
Engaged and married, it's kind of your choice because like depending on the marriage, it depends on how good you are. Like let's say you're doing really, really good as a girl and like you're planning to get engaged, then make sure you don't have to wait a really, really long time to get married. Like maybe a year or so.
Jeff
Alright.
Jen
Just a year in between. I like that. Yeah.
Jeff
How long does it generally take for a girl to like you.
Alec
Around Soaring Hawk? Maybe about a week and a half. If it's like a pretty girl that can last up to like three weeks or something.
Bert
So it takes the prettier girls longer to fall in, like.
Alec
Yes, but actually 98% of pretty girls ditch boys. So really pretty girls are very, very hard.
Jeff
Wait, let's go over that statistic one more time. Now.
Bert
What was your sample size?
Jeff
What was that statistic there, Alec?
Alec
Pretty girls are very, very hard to get because most have cold hearts against bullies because they think they're all in obnoxious, everything like that. And pretty girls, almost all girls are pretty, so. But all girls are pretty.
Caller
But.
Alec
When we talk about pretty girls, that's like when they walk into school with those huge fancy high heel shoes with the huge earrings with like makeup all over.
Jen
Mm. Those ones are the ones that are gonna dump you.
Alec
Mostly it is super hard. Also, we like to call pretty girls high maintenance girls.
Jeff
Say you love this guy. You're sort of saying, stay away from the high maintenance girl because she's just a little bit more difficult.
Alec
Yeah, kind of.
Jeff
Okay.
Bert
Hey, Alec, let me ask you a question.
Alec
But unless you really, really, really, really like them, really try. Because you know, like, you'll end up in a spot of trouble. And you know what pretty girls do is if you just get dumped on the playground. Because some dumpings can just like say, okay, I'm sorry, but I don't really think we're dope for each other. And then like they break apart. Like they kind of go slowly apart. Other times the ball is just burst, blasted open. That's like, okay, fine. And well, yeah, it can end up really dumb. And you mostly don't want that because then everyone's gonna start looking at you and it's gonna be crazy.
Jeff
So the pretty girls break up with you in a harsh way.
Alec
And then all the, like regular girls and other pretty girls will think, oh, she's so pretty. And he said something mean to her. And then. Yeah, so that sometimes happens. So you don't really want to have a big crack. You just want to fall open because that's nice and quiet when it just cracks. That can be really, really loud.
Bert
Yeah. Can I ask you a question about somebody on the show, Alec?
Alec
What do you mean somebody on the show?
Bert
Well, Bert on our show, every, every year, his wife, who I think I should add, is much prettier than him. Like, I think Bert probably spends most of his life worried that he's gonna be broken up with. Cause he married far above himself. So she allows him every year to go away for one week all by himself. And she stays home and takes care of the house and takes care of the Kids and she takes care of everything. And Burt just got back from that trip and needs to do something really nice for his wife to show his appreciation for her being so kind. What do you think a good thing.
Alec
For him to do would be mostly pretty girls. Like, well, now they're in the marriage stage. The most pretty girls, like, you know, Ellen, she's all funny and like, flowers would be a little boring for her.
Caller
So.
Alec
But like pretty girls, like, it sounds like Bert's wife would probably like flowers. Like, get a beautiful bouquet of flowers.
Bert
Okay, that's great advice.
Alec
Things like Ellen, like, some are like, Ellen might even like, like, things like.
Jeff
You know, toys, how much should be good.
Jen
No doubt she's funny and that would make her laugh.
Alec
I got her a present and guess what it turned out to be.
Jen
What?
Alec
Chicken chucker.
Bert
A what?
Jen
It's a chicken chucker.
Alec
A chicken chucker.
Jen
What is that?
Jeff
I've seen it. Like, it's like a little.
Alec
It's a little thing that can chuck plastic chickens.
Bert
Did she like that?
Jen
Huh?
Alec
Well, we didn't actually know, but she might love it.
Caller
We hope.
Jeff
Yeah, he was on the Ellen show with Ellen. They hung out for a while.
Bert
How much do you think Bert should spend on the flowers for his pretty wife?
Alec
Like, not that much. Just like try to get her a pretty one. Not like so pretty and like, oh, she's the only thing. I must get her this one. And don't get a really expensive ones, but usually like a big one.
Jeff
A big one, big flower.
Bert
So give her a big one.
Alec
Too expensive.
Jeff
Okay.
Alec
Just like a little thank you gift, you know?
Jen
Yeah.
Jeff
Alec, I think you should.
Bert
Can people still pick up a chicken chucker? I think you should pick up on the way home today and go, Stacy. Thank you.
Jeff
Can people still buy your book if they want. Like, can they go online to buy it?
Alec
Um, I. Can you go online to buy it?
Jeff
Yes, you can.
Alec
Also you can send a letter to the school, Soaring Hawk elementary and they send you back a book. You can get it. Well, hard covered and soft covers are just coming out.
Caller
And.
Alec
Just a school version is $3.
Jeff
$3? That's nothing. If this kind of advice. That's nothing.
Bert
If we call up and order one today, will you autograph it for us?
Alec
Sure. All right, well, if you buy a school book, they're already autographed.
Jen
Okay.
Jeff
Oh, look at that. It's already done. All right, Alec, thank you very much for your time and good luck with your bestseller. Okay. How to Talk to Girls.
Alec
Well, it's not bestseller.
Jeff
Well, it was at the Soaring Hawk Book Fair, from what I understand.
Bert
Yeah. Tell me, somebody at Soaring Hawk who sold more books than you, can you. No.
Jeff
No.
Bert
There you go.
Jeff
No, sir. Thank you, Alec.
Jen
We'll have our. We'll have our people call your people.
Jeff
He was on Ellen. He was so cute. Here he was with Ellen. What?
Alec
If you were the smartest kid in.
Caller
Class, girls would be prowling at your feet. Pick one and skip along.
Jeff
What does that mean?
Alec
Well, kind of.
Caller
That means, like, you're a magnet and.
Alec
Girls are the metal. So, like, you're just attracting girls. And then just pick one.
Caller
Because if you try to take all.
Alec
Of them, then it goes crazy.
Jeff
The Birch Show.
This lively, candid, and often humorous episode dives deep into relationship and intimacy dynamics, featuring listener calls about mismatched sex drives, marital infidelity, and personal insecurities. The Bert Show team offers their signature mix of personal stories, listener input, and comedic banter. In the latter half of the episode, 8-year-old "relationship expert" Alec dispenses surprisingly sage advice on love, dating, and moving on, reflecting the show's balance of real talk and light-hearted fun.
[00:00–09:14]
A. Women Married to Low-Libido Men
[04:43–07:05]
B. Women Struggling With Low Libido
[07:05–08:39]
[08:39–16:12]
[10:56–13:12 & 17:10–23:24]
[23:24–27:26]
[27:31–43:56]
On marriage and sex:
Jeff: "Therapists generally define sexless marriages as having sex less than 10 times a year. And they estimate one in five couples, 20%, are in sexless marriages." (02:57)
On loneliness in marriage:
Caller (Carol): "It makes a woman feel very lonely to not be actually wanted by her husband." (06:00)
On moving on:
Alec: "Life is hard. Move on... If you don't get over it, it'll make you too sad. And most boys, if they can't get over it, they go crazy." (34:31–34:54)
Comic relief:
Bert: "So you're the—Craig is the penis whisperer." (09:48)
Alec’s wisdom on high-maintenance dating:
"Pretty girls are very, very hard to get because most have cold hearts against bullies…We like to call pretty girls high maintenance girls." (38:12)
| Timestamp | Segment | |------------|-----------------------------------------------------| | 00:00–09:14| Sex drive mismatch & emotional fallout | | 09:15–16:12| Do men who dislike sex exist? Listener testimonies | | 17:10–23:24| Infidelity stories/ confronting cheaters | | 23:24–27:26| Forgiveness vs. self-respect after being cheated on | | 27:31–43:56| Kid relationship expert Alec gives advice & answers |
This episode of The Bert Show is a blend of serious relationship dilemmas and comedic insight that only this cast, with help from their devoted audience, can deliver. From real struggles with marital intimacy and infidelity to the adorable perspective of an 8-year-old “expert,” it’s equal parts empathy, entertainment, and unexpected wisdom. Whether you’re grappling with heartbreak, lost in the dating jungle, or just in need of a lighter morning, this episode leaves you feeling seen, heard—and maybe a little less alone.