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Raj
Hey, it's Raj and Noah.
Noah
And we're back with a new season of Am I Doing It Wrong? The show that explores the all too human anxieties we have about trying to get our lives right.
Raj
Because we're still doing a lot of stuff wrong.
Noah
But who isn't? That's why each week we're talking about the topics that we could all use a little helping hit with. Whether it's making new friends as an adult, managing our emotions, or even dreaming.
Raj
We'll be talking to experts in their fields who are definitely doing things right, so the rest of us can be a bit wiser and a lot better equipped to handle whatever life throws at us.
Noah
Subscribe now and listen to new episodes of Am I Doing It Wrong? Dropping every Thursday starting January 1st, wherever you get your podcasts.
Raj
And for the first time ever, we're gonna have full video episodes on YouTube. Because as long as there are things to get wrong, we're gonna be right here to help you do them better.
Burt
Love y'.
Caller
All.
Jeff
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Burt
Desperate Housewives last night. Jen, I can't believe you missed Desperate House. That's like, your only appointment television.
Melissa
I know, but it's TiVo.
Raj
TiVo.
Melissa
You can't tell me too much. Cause I'm gonna watch it tonight.
Burt
All right, I'll just give you what happens in the first couple of minutes of the. I keyed in on one thing during the show here. There are actually a couple of pretty decent storylines, but Teri Hatcher's mom has been living with Teri Hatcher for a while now. Right?
Melissa
Driving her crazy. Just kind of like that last virtual listener we were talking about.
Burt
Pretty much same thing. Driving her absolutely nuts. Well, in the beginning of the show, the mother's ex boyfriend shows up to the house.
Melissa
Okay.
Burt
Okay. And he proposes to Teri Hatcher's mom. Teri Hatcher's all relieved because she's gonna get her mom out of the house and all. But here's a little bit how the propos goes right here, okay?
Noah
Oh.
Caller
Did this ring belong to Dolores?
Jennifer Wilbanks
You gave her your dead wife's ring?
Caller
It's a three Carat diamond. I mean, she shouldn't care if it's used.
Jeff
Sophie, would you do me the honor of marrying me?
Caller
Sophie Brehmer was still a hopeless romantic.
Jeff
On one condition.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Tomorrow we trade this in for a ring of my own.
Caller
And I want a bigger diamond than Dolores got. But she was no longer naive.
Burt
All right, there are a couple of things that are so wrong about that, obviously.
Heather
Well, the fact that he was using another woman's ring, engagement ring, to give to her, you know, was wrong. You know, but I think, you know, and I thought last night that based on their age, just the reason she forgave him and just gave. You know what? Just trade that in and get me a bigger diamond. Where if they had been in their 20s, I think they would have broken up.
Burt
Yeah, that's the thing I want to focus in on. That's the thing I want to focus in on. Right, right there. It's the size of the ring. Does it have to be necessarily bigger than the X? You know what I'm saying?
Heather
Well, yeah. Yes, because. Yes, because, you know, this made me think of something that I read like last week. And I know that, you know, Jen and Entertainment Buzz keeps talking about, you know, Jennifer Garner and Ben Affleck and. And the thing that I read about, the fact that the diamond band, he's given her a diamond band and it's worth $500,000. Okay? Now, if you remember back when he proposed to JLo, that was a $2.5 million, six carat ring. Now, Jennifer Garner, you know, does not have as nice of a ring on her finger as JLo did. But Marc Anthony, his engagement ring to JLo was actually a seven karat ring. So he made sure that his engagement ring was bigger than Ben Affleck's. So Jennifer Garner's kind of getting the shaft and all that. But think that if you are the next one, it's. Yeah, I think it has to be bigger.
Burt
Yeah, that's what I want to ask women. Like, if you, if you're the woman getting the ring now and you know, he was either engaged or married previously, would you make the demand that the ring that you get from your man is bigger than the previous ring?
Melissa
Like in a conversation before you get engaged, you tell him, do you. It better be bigger? Is that what you're saying?
Burt
I don't know. Is that how it works? I mean, is it really that important?
Omar
I think the guy. I.
Heather
It should be understood.
Omar
Yeah, I think a guy would just know that, like, wouldn't you want to do that as a guy.
Burt
But how would you find that out? Like, you'd go up to Jessica and you'd say, so how big was that ring? That.
Omar
I don't think it's. I don't think women are secretive about that. Like, you know, like, I almost think it would come out with, yeah. And then he tried to marry. I should have known it was over when he gave me a measly three carat ring. Then you're like, oh, damn it, gotta.
Burt
Upgrade on that one.
Omar
Shoot.
Burt
So somehow, some way, you have to make it known what the size of the ring was. So this dance has to go on. And then a guy has to, absolutely must get a bigger ring.
Heather
Well, the thing is also, though, like, in. In last night's example, he had already been with somebody else. So it should be understood if the guy had proposed to someone else before he's proposed to the woman he's talking to now, he knew how much that old ring, you know, how big it was. So he. I mean, a guy has no excuse, if he done the proposing the whole time on to get something bigger, you know, but if she's been engaged before, there's a way to find out from friends, from mother, you know, like, it doesn't have to be her.
Burt
And then how do you. I'm still a little confused on how you let him know.
Heather
Okay, you know what, Bert, again, make a woman feel special. And if you are with this woman now and you've been with somebody else before, you make things bigger and better because you're making her feel special.
Melissa
Yeah, but think about it. In your own relationship, it'll make more sense if you had proposed to Chandra, given her a big old, you know, two carat ring, and then when you and Stacy decided to get engaged, think about not upgrading it from that.
Burt
Yeah, and you'd be paying for it.
Melissa
The rest of your life.
Burt
Hey, Jamie.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Hello.
Omar
Good morning.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Hey, what's up?
Caller
Yeah, I just got married and my husband had previously been married and my ring is bigger now.
Heather
Was that understood or did you have to. Or did you have to say something to him?
Caller
Oh, I didn't have to say anything. You know, a few years later, you're also in different financial positions as well, so it should be larger.
Melissa
If that's how you want to justify it.
Heather
That's right.
Melissa
That's fine with us.
Burt
Good morning, Lisa. You're on all the hits Q100.
Caller
It's Liza, but I was just saying that I don't understand why women want a bigger ring. All that matters is if he loves you or not.
Omar
Oh, come on. Who are you? You do not have real breasts.
Caller
Oh, I swear. Well, actually, no, I don't have any breasts at all. My breasts are really small.
Omar
That's what I mean. You're not a real woman.
Heather
Oh, come on.
Caller
A bigger diamond doesn't make me not a woman.
Burt
That makes you more of a woman to me.
Caller
I just don't.
Heather
Like.
Caller
I don't think it's right to base your love on a material dimension.
Omar
It's not right, but that's the way women operate.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Not me.
Heather
I will never have an engagement ring. But I get it, okay? And the thing is, it's about competition. It's always about competition. If know, you talk about superficial this, superficial that, with the engagement ring, but women are always competitive with their man's ex girlfriends and want to make sure that she's prettier that she. You know, like, it is just about competition. If a guy got an engagement ring, it'd be the same thing.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Well, I can.
Caller
I can understand the competition area, but I just. I mean, I would do it on a different level. It doesn't have to be a bigger diamond. Just, you know, make sure the proposal better.
Heather
Yeah.
Burt
So long as you got the man in the end, why would it matter what size the ring is?
Caller
So that's the way I feel.
Melissa
But see. Oh, she hung on. I wanted to ask her if she was married or engaged. Because that's fine in theory, right? Once you apply it to reality in your own relationship, things change. That's why I brought up the ex girlfriend, the Chandra thing. Because it brings it all in perspective. Like, yes, you're right. Stacy's not materialistic. And she, you know, would be absolutely in love with you anyway and married to you anyway. But had that ex girlfriend gotten a bigger ring?
Burt
Forget it.
Melissa
All of that theory, that nice little, you know, hippie earth mother thing goes out the window.
Burt
You will never hear the words come out of my wife that my. Out of my mouth that my wife is not materialistic. I promise you that. And she would agree if she was in here.
Noah
Really?
Burt
Yes. Hey, Sydney, you're on all the hits. Q100.
Caller
Good morning, Burchell. How is everybody?
Burt
Good. How are you?
Jennifer Wilbanks
Good.
Caller
You guys are just awesome.
Heather
Thank you.
Omar
We know.
Jennifer Wilbanks
I was listening.
Caller
And I wanted to make a comment that comparing Jennifer Garner and JLo. First of all, they're totally different people.
Heather
Doesn't matter.
Caller
JLO is really flashy and showy. Jennifer Garner is much more refined. And that made me think about the fact that you Know, a wedding engagement ring really needs to reflect the woman. And so if you've got a woman who is refined and tasteful and she would prefer something probably more delicate and.
Omar
More attractive, that's fine on paper. That's like. You know what I mean? That's like. It's like, what's the freaking Bowl Conference thing that you guys talk about every year, the bcs, where it all is supposed to come together on paper, but then somehow, like, you know, Gonzaga, whose basketball team ends up winning the football, you know, championship because of the way they put their math together. That's the same thing. You go, oh, she's a different type of woman. She wouldn't want to be that showy. But the bottom line is that Jennifer Lopez still trumped her ring by $2 million, and everyone knows that. So in the back of her mind.
Burt
You think she's holding onto that.
Omar
I think it's in the back of her mind that JLO was good enough for a $2 million ring, a house, Savannah, all this other stuff. And Jay Garn has got herself. You know, I guarantee, like, Percentage wise, it's 20%. If you had bought Chandra a $10,000 ring and then Stacy a $2,000 ring.
Heather
I guarantee before this is over with, because Jennifer Garner and Ben Affleck been trying to keep their relationship subtle at this love band, this diamond half million dollar love band is going to be accentuated with a very fine rock before this is over with.
Melissa
I think so, too.
Burt
More expensive than J. Lo's.
Heather
Absolutely.
Melissa
I think it can be understated. Like, I don't think because the one that he got for JLO was like that pink, humongous one stone rock that was like, really, you know, like the last color said, like flashier or whatever. Like just more, you know, just more showy. And maybe Jennifer Garner's personality is to have something a little bit more subdued. As long as he spends more money, I think the style can be different. It could be a fat man and it could be flat. Like, maybe there wouldn't even be a solid. And maybe it was just, you know, you know, maybe a different designer that's more expensive. I think it could be a different style, more subdued style, but still's gotta cost more.
Omar
You should just give her an old tic Tac box filled with loose stones. Go, look, here's $3 million worth of diamonds. You're more important to me than JLo. So here you go.
Burt
Hey, Michelle, you're on all the hits. Q100 or not.
Omar
You can just shake out what you want.
Heather
But even then, that would. Oh, you didn't think plan ahead enough to put those actually in a ring for me? You're making me do it. It's all on me. What are you talking about? You don't love me. You love jlo. See? It'd be a problem.
Burt
Good morning, Kelly. You'll be the last call. Go ahead.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Okay.
Caller
I am divorced and currently in a relationship with a man who's also divorced. And my ex husband had been previously married. And when he gave me a ring, I never once thought about it. And now I think about getting engaged again. And I think to myself, oh, my God, if he ever proposes, the Burt show is going to be in my head the day that he does it.
Heather
Did you?
Burt
That's where we want to be.
Heather
What did you do with your old engagement ring? I'm curious.
Caller
Um, it's still sitting in a box in the drawer.
Burt
So now how are you gonna tell him what size that ring was so he knows?
Caller
To tell you the truth, I had never even thought about it. Even when my ex husband, who had been previously married, proposed, I never thought about his ex wife's ring ever. And now, all of a sudden, now, for the rest of my life, I'm gonna be like, it's gotta be bigger.
Burt
Turning healthy women unhealthy.
Heather
That's right.
Omar
You're welcome.
Burt
That's what we're all about.
Omar
Glad to help.
Burt
Thank us later. Bye, Kelly.
Caller
Bye.
Jeff
The Birch Show.
Raj
Hey, it's Raj and Noah.
Noah
And we're back with a new season of Am I Doing It Wrong? The show that explores the all too human anxieties we have about trying to get our lives right.
Raj
Because we're still doing a lot of stuff wrong.
Noah
But who isn't? That's why each week, we're talking about the topics that we could all use a little helping hit with. Whether it's making new friends as an adult, managing our emotions, or even dreaming.
Raj
We'Ll be talking to experts in their fields who are definitely doing things right. Right? So the rest of us can be a bit wiser and a lot better equipped to handle whatever life throws at us.
Noah
Subscribe now and listen to new episodes of Am I Doing It Wrong? Dropping every Thursday starting January 1st, wherever you get your podcasts.
Raj
And for the first time ever, we're gonna have full video episodes on YouTube. Because as long as there are things to get wrong, we're gonna be right here to help you do them better.
Burt
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Visit betterhelp.com randompodcast for 10% off your first month of online therapy and let life feel better. All right, Melissa was telling us about this one couple that's getting ready to sue because of their sexual injuries.
Heather
Yes. There's a couple in China that is suing the hotel because the guy, during their interlude, fell out of the bed and broke his arm.
Jeff
And he admitted to this?
Heather
Yes, because he. His surgery cost, like, almost $2,500. So he's suing the hotel for this, saying that the hotel had provided unsafe facilities.
Burt
Hey, Ken. Ken, you want to start us off?
Caller
Yes, sir.
Burt
Go ahead.
Caller
During intercourse, I had some excruciating pain. Couldn't figure out what it was. Ended up in the emergency room to find out that one of my testicles had turned around backwards.
Jeff
That's actually not very uncommon. It's called torsion of the testicle. I swear to God, it happened to me before.
Burt
No way.
Jeff
Yeah.
Caller
Cuts off circulation, and it is painful.
Burt
Yeah.
Omar
I thought torsion of the testicle was a band that you guys played down.
Jeff
They're opening up.
Caller
Yes.
Jeff
For you too.
Burt
You've had this happen.
Jeff
Yeah, I've actually had that happen before where it really. It literally will just. Your testicle will twist inside the sack, and it is extremely painful, and it can actually swell up. Yeah, it's not an uncommon problem for men.
Burt
Is that your only sexual injury story? Because I bet you have dozens.
Jeff
Oh, please.
Omar
I bet you've got torsion of a lot of things.
Jeff
I used to have to have women sign waivers.
Melissa
No.
Jeff
One time that really just came to mind when Bert just caught me, and he's like, quick, think of a story. And I'm like, ah. Picture that. A year is 19, about 87, and I owned a water bed. This is how cool I was.
Heather
Oh, no.
Jeff
The girl I was dating at the time, we stripped off all the sheets, and of course, you've got that really smooth surface there. We covered it with baby oil. So literally, we couldn't hold our footing. I mean, we were sliding, slipping everywhere. We began the act. God, I won't be too disgusting. We began the act with her on her hands and knees. So you know what's going on. Literally, during the action, she slid forward so much, so fast, both her knees caught the railing of the edge of the bed, and she went over and hit her head on the floor. And I was just kind of standing there. It's almost like I just pushed her on a sheet of ice.
Omar
Hey, just a heads up. Crash. Fat kid's outside the door, and I'm really hoping he doesn't have a story.
Burt
I want to let women know that if you get hurt during sex and it's really bad, that while guys are trying to comfort you inside, they're going, yeah.
Caller
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Burt
She's bleeding.
Jeff
From an external injury.
Omar
I'd like to go on the record and say that's not true. Bert's just speaking for himself.
Burt
Hey, Art, you're on all the hits. Q100.
Caller
Hey, guys, what's going on?
Burt
Hey.
Caller
Back in high school, I used to have 76 Nova, so.
Burt
Yeah, there you go, Bragger.
Jeff
Slant six, baby.
Caller
Front seat is like a couch, so you can move the front seat and do some things people typically do in the backseat.
Burt
Sure.
Caller
And so we weren't exactly having intercourse yet. I was warming her up.
Burt
No.
Caller
And I have a chronic separating shoulder. Oh, no.
Heather
Oh, no.
Caller
So I'm stuffed down in front of the seat and on the passenger side, and I just. It was getting good. I kind of moved and my arm popped out.
Burt
Well, better.
Jeff
Your arm popped out.
Caller
She thinks I'm, you know, screaming. I don't know, to. To make it better for her. But then she realized that there's a problem and just kind of totally freaked her out. Obviously, we didn't finish. And I also never got any further with her.
Burt
No doubt, man. Well, if it's gonna be a pop shoulder or a reverse testicle. Yeah, I was gonna say I'm taking the pop shoulder.
Jeff
He had torsion of the shoulder.
Burt
Shannon, you're on all the hits.
Caller
Hi. Well, my boyfriend and I were at a subdivision looking at brand new houses that we were looking at possibly buying, and we decided we were looking at the master bedroom and the master bathroom. And we're in the master bathroom and discussing different things we could possibly proceed to do in the bathroom. And one thing leads to another, and we lean against the shower door, and the shower door collapses and breaks. He takes me to the emergency room to have the shower glass door pieces removed from my buttocks.
Burt
How are you gonna explain that one?
Jeff
Glass in the ass. Room seven.
Caller
Wow.
Melissa
Wow.
Burt
Melissa, you want to pitch in?
Melissa
Well, I don't.
Heather
It's not a broken. Now that I hear the stories, it's not a broken bone or anything like that, but. But back a long time ago, When I would have public interludes, there was a session I was having with someone near a creek. And somehow the creek water got somehow in certain places. And the creek. Creeks in Georgia are not very clean. So I ended up having this massive infection that I had to get taken care of. And the gynecologist. How did she put it? No, I can't say.
Burt
Come on, how'd you say it?
Jeff
How'd you say it?
Heather
She said, I've never seen so much bacteria in one person in all my life is what she said. And that was because of. Yeah. When I used to have public sex.
Omar
Don't they teach you stuff like that in medical school? Like you should never look at somebody's injury and goes, I have never seen something so big and disgusting.
Heather
Especially when you're gone in college.
Burt
Just to say, that's good.
Heather
You don't feel very confident after that.
Jeff
You had creek in the crack.
Melissa
I'm just surprised you sat down in the creek.
Noah
Why?
Heather
Well, I mean, I was a little. I wasn't. The creek was not the first thing that I was. That was not right.
Burt
Not on your mind?
Heather
Yeah.
Noah
No.
Burt
Hey, Pete, you're on all the hits. Q100. Hey.
Caller
Hey, how you doing?
Burt
Hey.
Caller
My brother, during the height of passion, actually had an aneurysm that fortunately didn't rupture, but spent the next three to four days in the hospital having to explain how that happened.
Heather
Damn. Wow.
Burt
Get this massive, like headache. And then had to stop.
Caller
Yeah.
Omar
Yeah.
Caller
And I had to pick my mom up from a trip she was on and bring her back. And she's like, well, how did happen? And I'm like, well, let's just get you there and let you talk to the doctors.
Heather
Then later on you brag about it. Once your life is not on the line anymore, then you're like, guess what happened, dude?
Omar
I ruptured a blood vessel in my brain.
Jeff
Speaking of that, I was once self pleasuring and ruptured a blood vessel there. And let me tell you something, it went to five times its size. I had to show my dad it looked like a zeppelin on a crayon. It was horrific.
Heather
Seriously, your dad?
Jeff
Well, I ruptured a blood vessel somewhere within my thingy. Thingy. And it just literally, I mean, it went like five times its size. It was just like a giant bloated cantaloupe. And I freaked out.
Melissa
I bet.
Jeff
And that's what it was. Of course. What does my dad do? He starts cracking up.
Burt
Of course he does.
Omar
Yeah.
Jeff
Because he knew what it was a.
Burt
Little Rough on yourself, don't you think? There was.
Jeff
Oh, I was getting it. Don't you. Don't you go. I'll give you something to cry about. Yelling at himself. Who's your daddy? Who's my daddy? You all right there, Jen?
Burt
So violent.
Melissa
Seriously, the imagery is just too much to handle.
Caller
Yeah, I think.
Omar
Seriously. Fat kid was looking for you.
Burt
Hey, Evonne, you're on all the hits. Q100.
Caller
Yvonne.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Hello.
Omar
Hello.
Caller
I am here to tell you guys from firsthand experience that that lockjaw is real. Oh, my God, it is so real. And I was too embarrassed to go to the emergency room, so I made my husband make a fist and hit me with the top of his hand to, like, pop it back in place.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Oh, God.
Caller
I mean, what am I gonna do? I couldn't even talk. How am I gonna explain to him how it happened?
Burt
So your husband hits you in the head to unlock your jaw?
Caller
No, actually, the bottom. I couldn't close my mouth. It got locked. I couldn't close my mouth.
Burt
Oh, from the bottom.
Melissa
I think. Yeah. That a lot of women have felt close to that happening. Yeah.
Caller
Because after a while, you know, you're like, okay, yeah, that's a good thing. I think that the pain is just gonna eventually numb itself until you try to close your mouth. And you can't close your mouth.
Heather
Oh, man.
Jeff
Jen, demonstrate that again for me.
Caller
Like, that's okay. Pre vert.
Melissa
Yeah. The places, like where your jaw connects, you can definitely feel. Yeah, totally.
Caller
But I couldn't close in it, and I could feel it getting swollen more and more. And I just finally looked at your jaw, took it his fist, and I just kind of gestured, you know, hit it.
Melissa
You hit it.
Burt
Can I tell you how that story is going to haunt so many women when you start to feel just that little twinge right there from now on.
Omar
Yeah. Thanks a lot.
Caller
They're going to remember me having to have my husband go hit it, and they're going to stop before they get hit.
Melissa
At least it was her husband.
Burt
Yeah.
Caller
I've been married for 18 years. We've done it all, people.
Melissa
Right. So at least you were comfortable enough to imagine.
Jeff
Well, here's some advice then, for all the men that are listening. From now on, when that happens, when your wife is finished, just give her an uppercut. Everything will be fine.
Burt
I've got a preemptive hit.
Jeff
Yeah.
Burt
Just to make sure it's not gonna happen. Here you go. Morning. All the hits Q100.
Caller
Hey, we had some friends over. They spent the night in the bunk beds. They were the metal framed. And later in the night I heard them calling my name, which I thought was very strange. I had to unlock the door and go in and he had been swinging from the bottom of the bed into her and thrown his shoulder out of joints and we had to call an ambulance in because she was pinned underneath him.
Burt
He's still laughing. How many years ago was that?
Melissa
Five.
Burt
Five and still laughing about it.
Omar
That is good.
Burt
I think the strangest thing is when you know they're having sex and you don't realize what's going on and they're screaming out your name. Yeah, too random.
Jeff
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Caller
Hey, it's Raj and Noah.
Noah
And we're back with a new season of Am I Doing It Wrong? The show that explores the all too human anxieties we have about trying to get our lives right.
Raj
Because we're still doing a lot of stuff wrong.
Noah
But who isn't? That's why each week we're talking about the topics of that we could all use a little helping hand with. Whether it's making new friends as an adult, managing our emotions, or even dreaming.
Raj
We'Ll be talking to experts in their fields who are definitely doing things right. So the rest of us can be a bit wiser and a lot better equipped to handle whatever life throws at us.
Noah
Subscribe now and listen to new episodes of Am I Doing It Wrong? Dropping every Thursday starting January 1st, wherever you get your podcasts.
Raj
And for the first time ever, we're going to have full video episodes on YouTube. Because as long as there are things to get wrong, we're going to be right here to help you do them.
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Burt
Voice disguiser on yes. Okay, we are gonna call you Jennifer, as in Jennifer Wilbanks. Good.
Melissa
How about just Will Banks?
Burt
Will Banks.
Omar
How about Crazy Eyes?
Jennifer Wilbanks
I'm not Will Banks.
Burt
You're this close.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Though what surprisingly, is. My fiance's in bed and I told him I was going for a run.
Burt
Ouch.
Heather
Oh, wow.
Jennifer Wilbanks
I guess I should have rethought that, huh?
Heather
Yeah.
Burt
So he's actually in the other room right now.
Jennifer Wilbanks
No, no, no. I'm out of the apartment. I went for a run. He's asleep.
Burt
Okay. You didn't bring any scissors with you, did you?
Jeff
No.
Heather
Not trying to catch a cab or anything. Going run into the library.
Melissa
Are you wearing your engagement.
Jennifer Wilbanks
I am wearing the ring.
Heather
That's a good sign.
Jennifer Wilbanks
I've been spotted wearing the ring.
Heather
No bus tickets, nothing like that. Okay.
Jennifer Wilbanks
No, no, no.
Burt
All right. Give us a little history here. Wilbanks. How long have you guys been married? Or how long have you been going out? I mean, when did you get engaged? And lead us right up to the cold feet thing.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Okay. We started dating about three years ago. We've known each other seriously since I was, like, three years old. We have a child together. We got engaged on Christmas Eve originally. We're going to do a wedding later on in the year, but decided to move it up. Really? Fine. Up until this point, he has a best friend that he actually dated in high school. Kind of like the first girlfriend and everything. And they remained really good friends afterwards. So he respects her opinion a lot. But when he told her that we were getting that he was gonna ask me to marry him, she said, I guess, do whatever makes you happy. But why her? Even though we've been together for so long and everything. Okay, so basically, she's the type that. She doesn't want him. She don't want anyone else to want him kind of thing.
Heather
Are you sure she doesn't want him?
Jennifer Wilbanks
Well, I've always had my doubts, but I just put it out of my mind. But up until now, and because, just. Just because the other day he was talking to her, he was like, are you coming to the wedding? Just making sure and everything. She was like, yep, I'll be there. Just like a really snooty type of, I've got something going on type attitude. And he told me, like, as a joke, like, thinking it would be funny if that happened. And it's not funny.
Heather
So.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Just kind of nervous about what's gonna happen during this ceremony, I guess. Or if she does have ulterior motives or so. And it's tomorrow, so I don't really know what to do.
Melissa
Well, what Would he say if you told him that she was uninvited?
Jennifer Wilbanks
Oh, no.
Burt
That'd be pretty interesting.
Jennifer Wilbanks
It's not just her. He's friends, like, her entire family, too, and so they're coming to the wedding as well.
Burt
I can understand how this would cause you, like, some stress and all, but, I mean, to call off the entire wedding over it. Oh, no, no.
Jennifer Wilbanks
I'm not gonna call off the wedding. I'm worried that there's gonna be a fight in the middle of it if she does happen to say something. I know for a fact I've got a couple of my friends that I told that I thought something of that. You know, got the eagle eye on her during the ceremony. I said, if she stands up, you run after him.
Burt
The last line of your email says, I need to know if this is just. If this is cold feet or if this might really be a problem.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Yeah.
Burt
So when you say, is this cold feet? You're not. You're not even. Not for a second thinking about calling off the wedding over this.
Heather
The wedding.
Burt
You're fine with that?
Heather
You're fine with him?
Burt
You're fine with him. You're fine with the wedding.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Fine with him. That I like that. I know, but I know how some. Well, a lot of brides, you know, like. Right. Like, they've gone or before, you know, get very, very nervous, very, very antsy and think big things of small things. So I'm just trying to see if I'm making a huge, small little thing, you know, little problem or if it could potentially. Because there are girls out there that are that bold to try to do that.
Heather
All right, Ms. Wilbanks, let me ask you a question. So in order to determine that, I think we need to know, has there been any issues with this woman? You said you've dated your boyfriend for three years. And I'm curious if there's been issues with her in those three years, not just now.
Jennifer Wilbanks
You mean issues of her telling him the same thing like this?
Heather
Well, I mean, issues that. I mean with. With you and their friendship. You know, you say that they're best friends, but they were also each other's first, you know? So I'm curious. What. How has she affected your relationship with your fiance in the three years you've been together?
Jennifer Wilbanks
Well, basically, like, she. It's like she would try to befriend me for him, but it's always like she had some kind of attitude every time we were around or something. And once, actually, it was a long time ago when we were first together, tried to talk me out of being with him because she thought that he wasn't ready for a relationship. So she's tried to talk me out of it before. And just her attitude and the way that she has such strong opinions toward, you know, that he most of the time doesn't ever act on. But, you know, you never know what that one thing you can say that could, you know, who knows if she says something to him tomorrow.
Burt
Melissa shaking her head. What's up?
Heather
Well, my concern number one is I don't think she doesn't want him. You said she doesn't want him for herself, but she doesn't want him for anybody else either. I don't agree that she doesn't want him. And, and two, I'm concerned because, you know, okay, the ceremony, let's say it goes without a hitch tomorrow. There's still issues with this woman, I think, in your relationship, and I think that, you know, you hope that friends of each person in the relationship is going to respect that relationship and be supportive. And I don't know, I just really, I'm, I'm, I'm confused as to why you and him have never had a conversation about her before, because I have. I have the feeling that I would have brought it up because she does not sound like a best friend, good friend to everybody. She sounds like somebody who is trying to sabotage your relationship.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Right. I have talked to him about it before and he just had reassured me, you know, this is our relationship and she, you know, doesn't run our relationship. It's on us and not her. And, you know, she's just got strong opinions and, you know, she can be a brat and, you know, I would just ignore her is what he's told me.
Melissa
From a guy's perspective. I'm curious for Burt and Jeff's opinion on this. Like, is it possible that he's unaware of his buddy being this much of a pain in the butt to his soon to be wife? Is it possible that he is like, oh, no big deal. She's just my friend.
Burt
Yeah, we understate everything. Guys understate everything. Where women are more complicated. Maybe you guys either see into things more than we do or see them for what they are more than we do. I think we're pretty basic creatures.
Omar
I definitely think that women have a different perspective than guys in situations like that. And I think think we, we are not intentionally or her fiance is not intentionally playing it down, but he like, we like girl. I think on stuff like that girls are smarter than guys. In terms of figuring out. Because guys are just so surface. So girls can figure out, like, the couple layers down. And guys we have. You can explain it until you're blue in the face. And the only way we'll. The way you've got us is we. We go. All right, fine. I don't. I don't understand what you're saying, but if that's the way it is and that's the way you want it to be. So.
Melissa
So he genuinely does not. Does not see anything. See anything. Like, he genuinely doesn't feel like this woman's a concern. He genuinely is. Like his heart's in the right place going into this wedding.
Omar
Like, if she's doing. Like, it's like. It's like a girl who's flirting with a guy, you know, and the guy's talking to her and whatever, and then explains to his girlfriend, oh, she's just being nice.
Melissa
She's not.
Omar
She's not flirting. She's not. She holds everybody's hand when she. She talks to him and kisses him with tongue when they leave. Right. Right. I mean, that's just. That's just the way she is. Like, seriously. I mean, I don't know if I've ever even seen her with her shirt on. I mean, come on.
Burt
To me, it's almost. There's an issue with the wedding also, but it may be too. Well, maybe it's never too late to talk about it. Like, if I had to redo my wedding. Like, we had a guy at my wedding that was a real close friend of Stacy's. They had slept together years and years and years ago. They'd been best friends, and they slept with each other a couple of times. And she wanted him at the wedding. And I said, you know what? Fine. Let's have him at the wedding. And I was uncomfortable about it. And if I could do it all over again, I would have said to her, I don't want him there. I just don't want him there.
Melissa
It would have been more of your day.
Burt
Would have been more my day. And they. They. They kept. I was never threatened by the relationship. Just having him there was irking me. And I should have had the sack to say, you know what? I would rather not have him here. That's. That's my day. This is just about you and I.
Heather
And I think that. Yeah, I think that, Ms. Wilbanks, that you are. It is your day, and you are allowed. Your wedding is one of the few times that you're allowed to be completely selfish. And everyone should understand. And so if there is anything. I mean, this wedding should be about you and your fiance. And when you're up there with the preacher, minister, whoever, then you should only be thinking about the fiance. Instead of you and your girlfriends having to give the evil eye. Like you said to this other woman.
Burt
You don't have to be playing those games. All right, so, Jennifer, let's go ahead. And I'm gonna put you on hold, and then we'll take a whole bunch of calls for you here. Cause a lot of people have opinions on it. Okay. All right, hold on. All right. Voice disguise are off. And Heather, you're on all the hits. Q100. Hello.
Caller
Hi. I had a question for Ms. Wilbanks. Who told you that the best friend had said, you know. Well, why her? Who told you this?
Burt
Hold on one second. Voice disguiser back on.
Omar
Affirmative.
Burt
Hey, Jennifer.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Yes?
Burt
How'd you find out what this woman was saying about you?
Jennifer Wilbanks
Through a friend. Not through one of. One of his friends.
Burt
One of his.
Jennifer Wilbanks
He had. Maybe he had told her that.
Melissa
So your soon to be husband told a friend and that friend told you?
Jennifer Wilbanks
Yeah, I think maybe he didn't want to say it to me to hurt my feelings.
Burt
Okay, hold on one sec. Hey, Amanda. Good morning.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Hey.
Caller
I just. First, I want to say I love your show. And my advice to Ms. Wilbanks is to uninvite this ex. I believe she needs to talk to her fiance tonight and be like, listen, I'm not. I'm not comfortable with her coming. We need to not invite her anymore. And I think that he should understand that it's her day and she's gonna have this thought in the back of her mind the whole day if the girl shows up.
Burt
I totally agree. And I'll take it one step further than that. If they get Marri and this woman is still an out and Jennifer is still upset, then I think that she has every right to say, look, this is not a person we can have in our life. I'm not comfortable.
Caller
Definitely. Definitely. I had a similar situation. And you can't. You can't have exes in the relationship, and you definitely can't have them at the wedding.
Burt
Agreed.
Heather
And I think with the wedding. Also think of 10 years from now, you're looking at the wedding photos and the first thing in your mind is not the drama or the frustration you had that day over this. Some random woman.
Omar
Hey, Ray.
Caller
Hey.
Burt
Hey.
Caller
Question for the caller. Was her general concern about the friend causing a disturbance? Was she concerned about the friend causing a disturbance during the objection part of the ceremony. Yes, I've had. I've heard of similar concerns with other people's marriages where they've been concerned about a party in the congregation maybe playing a joke or seriously objecting to the two people being married. It's actually a pretty common practice now with the way marriages are customized with the vows and whatnot. You can actually get together with the pastor, and they can actually leave that line out of the ceremony altogether.
Burt
You see, I think if you have somebody at your wedding where that is a possibility, that they're going to stand up and say, I object, that person should not be at the wedding. You shouldn't have to go to the pastor. You shouldn't have to alter your traditions, your ceremony. If you've got somebody at the wedding, that there's a possibility and it's cut it off before it even happens.
Heather
And is this a case of a woman trying to be nice and trying to let everything, you know, include everybody and not want to. Want to come across as mean or bitchy or whatever, you know, and. Because that's the thing is, I think too many women, like, she's not wanting. She's not doing what she wants because she doesn't want to come across as mean.
Burt
Omar disagrees with us. Hey, Omar.
Caller
Hey. How you doing, guys?
Burt
All right.
Caller
Hey, you know, I've been listening to this, and really, I think, you know, he's marrying her. She needs to just realize it and be happy with that. I mean, women, I think, have this uncanny knack of turning molehills into mountains and reading into things.
Heather
I don't agree with this. I don't agree with this situation, because I do think this woman is trying to sabotage their relationship. And this is a huge ceremony for women, and the fact that this woman's going to come in and make. Purposely try to make her feel uncomfortable at her own wedding is a concern.
Melissa
Well, to me, it doesn't matter if she's making a mountain out of a molehill or not. It's her wedding.
Burt
Right.
Melissa
She's the bride.
Burt
Right.
Melissa
So whether she is or not, I think is insignificant.
Burt
Unless this is a deal breaker. Unless there's a bigger issue. I mean, we don't have him on the line here, so we don't know the whole story. But this may be a line in the sand for him, too. I mean, if it's that big an issue, then, yeah, they probably shouldn't get married tomorrow.
Omar
Isn't it like a Geneva Convention rule, or something, though, that whatever the woman wants for the wedding Gets like, the guy shouldn't even argue it, right? Argue with it. Yeah. With it. Yeah.
Burt
Once you propose and she says yes, get out of the way.
Melissa
Yeah, right.
Burt
Talitha, you're gonna be the last call on all the hits. Q100. Hi. Hello. That makes things easy. And we are back to. Jennifer, can we get the voice disguiser on?
Omar
Yes, sir.
Burt
Yellow.
Melissa
Yes.
Burt
Did you hear all of that?
Jennifer Wilbanks
Yeah, I did.
Burt
What do you think?
Jennifer Wilbanks
I think maybe I am just making something out of nothing. I mean, I really could be.
Melissa
Well, you also have to remember, Wilbanks, this is your day. Okay? This is seriously your day. I understand how with everything that goes on, getting ready for your wedding, planning your wedding, all of the stress of everything, that this could be an exaggerated thing that's stressing you out, that this could be something that's causing you cold feet. But you know what? Listen to that voice in your head and don't let her ruin your wedding day. This is your day.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Okay?
Raj
Bert.
Heather
Oh, I'm sorry.
Burt
Are you going directly on your honeymoon? Yes, sir, you are. Okay. I wanted to check in with you on Monday, but if you're gonna be gone.
Omar
Is she going with you guys?
Heather
Bert had mentioned earlier about lying in the sand. Has he made a big. I mean, when you've brought her up, or do you think that if you said, I don't want her to come tomorrow. I mean, do you think he will make an issue out of it or do you think that he doesn't care?
Jennifer Wilbanks
No, I think he would make an issue of it. In fact, I know he would make an issue of it.
Burt
So he would say, look, if you don't want her there, then I'm sorry that we can't get married.
Jennifer Wilbanks
No, he wouldn't say that, but he would be definitely, we need to talk afterwards type thing.
Omar
Why?
Jennifer Wilbanks
Well, just because they have been such great friends. I mean, it is probably what you were saying about how he probably just doesn't notice it. And I mean, it was, you think a lot of the time and a lot of the callers you get, their best friends don't even want to believe that, you know, their, you know, significant other or their other best friend or anything like that. Like, even though they know they might be telling the truth. You know what I'm saying?
Heather
Well, I think the difference here, though, from what you're comparing it to is the fact that you're his fiance. Like, I. It may be conservative, but I do think in order, ranking order, you come first, especially on your wedding day.
Burt
Of course. Yeah.
Heather
You know, So, I mean, if you're.
Burt
Gonna be uncomfortable, even a little bit on your own wedding day, then you got to eliminate what's gonna make you uncomfortable.
Heather
Yeah. And they're in. And again, they're not just best friends. They were together at one point, right?
Jennifer Wilbanks
For a little bit, yes.
Burt
Man, I wish I. I was there. I wish I would have handled it differently. I wish I would have bucked up and said, stace, I don't want him at the wedding.
Melissa
And this is from somebody that's already been through it. Been there, you know, be selfish. You're the bride.
Burt
Can we get your numbers and call you when you get back from your.
Omar
Honeymoon or on your honeymoon?
Jennifer Wilbanks
Yeah, no, not on the honeymoon.
Burt
Yeah, when you get back, we'll talk to you about it.
Jennifer Wilbanks
Okay.
Burt
Okay. Bye.
Melissa
Bye.
Raj
Thanks.
Burt
Good luck.
Omar
Thanks.
Burt
It's your day.
Heather
And I know, guys. You know, you talk about women and their complex minds. This best friend is conniving.
Burt
Yeah.
Heather
This best friend wants this man.
Melissa
She's living the Julia Roberts side of that movie, you know, this other woman.
Jeff
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Featuring: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy & The Bert Show Cast
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This episode of The Bert Show dives into a lively blend of relationship dilemmas, social competition, and listener confessions—creating a raucous, real, and authentic snapshot of everyday issues. The two main segments are:
The tone is candid, often hilarious, and peppered with memorable moments and unfiltered advice.
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Jennifer ("Wilbanks"), engaged and about to marry her childhood friend (with whom she has a child), is anxious about his female best friend (an ex) attending—and possibly sabotaging—their wedding.
Unapologetically honest, peppered with humor and real emotion, this episode of The Bert Show balances light-hearted, often outrageous stories with moments of authentic relationship wisdom. The hosts and callers together create an approachable, laugh-out-loud space where even taboo topics become relatable and safe to discuss. Whether talking materialism, romance, or bedroom disasters, the message is clear: life’s messiness is best handled with candor, a little competition, and a lot of laughter.
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