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Melissa
Are you going on any road trips this summer?
Sherry Burback
I know I'm going to be going
Melissa
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Sherry Burback
being that I'm going to be passenger
Melissa
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Spin Quest is a free to play social casino void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. The Burt Show Sherry Burback here is the author of at the Coffee Shop and Internet dating is not like ordering a pizza. And if you guys are doing some Internet dating here and you're not having any luck, hopefully Sherry can give you a little hand here. Hey Sherry.
Sherry Burback
Hey, how are you?
Host (possibly Burt)
Good, how are you today?
Sherry Burback
I'm doing great, thanks.
Host (possibly Burt)
What are the biggest mistakes? Biggest mistakes people make in their profiles?
Sherry Burback
Oh, the profiles. Using a bad picture is a big one. You know, not taking a brand new picture of yourself, what you look like right now at this moment, instead of holding onto a picture that's a little bit too old or cropping out, you know, an ex girlfriend and Putting that up as your profile picture. That's a big no. No.
Wendy
One of my girlfriends is online dating right now, and she said a lot of guys have pictures of themselves up with girls in them.
Sherry Burback
Yes. With girls around there, you know, hanging onto them, you know, holding hands. Or maybe the guy has his hand around her shoulder and it's a. You know, it might be a friend, it might not be, but it gives the wr impression.
Jen
Now, Sheri, a new study came out today that Talked about how 90% of people lie in their online dating profiles. I mean, is that true? Do you find that, and I mean, do you encourage people to kind of tweak themselves, too?
Sherry Burback
Oh, I don't encourage people to lie. I'm not sure where you know what exactly they're talking about with lying. That makes it sound like everybody is just completely dishonest online. And I personally didn't find that, you know, maybe people tweak certain things that aren't a big deal. I don't know. You want to present your best self. So I think maybe some people are maybe saying they make a little bit more money than they do or they are taller or weigh a little bit less. But overall, I think people are pretty honest. That was just my personal experience.
Jeff
I think what people should do is they should say that they weigh more, that they're older than they are, put up a really bad picture. Because then when you meet someone in person, you're like, wow, what a surprise.
Host (possibly Burt)
Rather than the other way around.
Sherry Burback
So much better than I thought it was going to look. Exactly.
Jeff
Mix it up, people.
Host (possibly Burt)
If somebody sends you a message that they're interested in you, what should you send back? Should it be a short message? Should it be like this whole profile? Should it be a generic profile? Should each and every one of them be specific?
Sherry Burback
Well, if somebody's sending you a message, they've probably already seen your profile. So you don't want to copy and paste your. Whatever you have in your profile and send it. So you do want to just do a short message to, you know, if you're interested in talking further with them, send them something short that they can respond back to. Don't give them your whole life history. Leave a little bit of mystery there, but let them know that you're interested in talking further. I mean, you want to get a date. That's the ultimate goal of this. You don't want a pen pal, so you do want to just keep things short and email back and forth until you feel comfortable enough where you want
Melissa
to meet and what Are the best dating online sites and what are the worst online profile sites that you can go to?
Sherry Burback
Well, I've heard of people that have met other people on just about every site. So I think any site can probably be good for you depending on if you have the right attitude and the right profile. Having said that, I think the larger services like Match.com or Yahoo personals usually give you a wider variety of people and that way you have a kind of a better chance to meet somebody.
Wendy
I'm sorry, are the ones you pay for often better than the free ones?
Sherry Burback
Yeah, I think so. I think people, if they're going to pay to set up a profile, they're going to be a little bit more serious about it. Those people tend to want more of a relationship, you know, rather than just they're testing it out. They're not. Maybe they're not even out of a relationship. They're not sure if they want to meet someone. If you pay to have a profile set up, you're probably more serious about it and it's probably you're going to meet more quality people that way.
Host (possibly Burt)
Are there some websites, dating websites that sort of have their own niche, their own brand, like eharmony would be for older people? There would be another one that Generally if you're 24 or younger, you go to.
Sherry Burback
There are some sites really match.com kind of encompasses everybody, but there are some sites like eharmony. I've heard that people who are more interested in marriage will go to eharmony. I don't know if that's really true. That's what I've heard from people. That's not kind of the brand they push, but I think that's kind of the perception that people have about them. Sites like Perfect Match will give you a combination of like match.com and eHarmony, where you're set up with people through their site, but you're also able to search for profiles. So I'm not sure that there's any site that really caters to one person. There are some niche dating sites that you can check out too, if you have a specific interest. Like you really love horseback riding or you're echo conscious and you want to look at a green dating site. There are sites like that. And then the advantage in those is you have an immediate point of common interest with somebody. Then if you go on a site like that. But generally a larger site will get you pretty much no matter what age you are, will get you a wider variety of people that you can meet
Wendy
who dates More online men or women?
Sherry Burback
I think men date more online than women, actually, just from the people that have come to me for help with profiles. And I seem to come across more men that date online.
Host (possibly Burt)
Is there still a stigma attached to online dating? Like, I think Melissa's a little old school about online dating, where she still feels it's a little bit desperate.
Sherry Burback
You know, I think there is and there shouldn't be because it's just. It's such a great way to meet people. I think it's kind of that unknown, and so people are. Have. Are afraid of it, and they. All they hear is horror stories as opposed to the really positive stories. You know, I hear a lot of people that have met really somebody totally perfect for them online dating. And it's somebody that maybe that lived in the same area and they just had never met in all the years that they lived in that area. But it took the Internet to introduce them. But I think there is kind of a stigma and there shouldn't be. So don't be afraid of it.
Host (possibly Burt)
Yeah, I think it comes from personal ads back in the day. They just seem so cheesy and so desperate.
Jen
Back in the newspaper, when online dating first started, it was for people who didn't feel socially confident. So I think that it was just for a certain. A certain age group. I think 35 and older. Online dating was something new. And it's for people who couldn't hang on their own in the clubs.
Sherry Burback
But, you know, yeah, I think you get busy when you get to be a certain age. You, you know, even if you're not married, you start taking care of family, you start working more. You kind of have the same friend group. You don't meet as many friends as you do when you're in your 20s, so you tend to meet less people when you get a little bit older. And I think that's how online dating really got started.
Host (possibly Burt)
So some final advice. Let's say there's somebody checking us out this morning that has had a profile, or they're on a bunch of different sites and they just don't seem to be getting any responses at all with their profile. What's three tweaks they can make today to change their profile enough to where they might start to get some responses.
Sherry Burback
Okay. First of all, let your personality come through in your profile. Don't just list things about yourself. Don't say, I like wine and football and American Idol. Say, why you like those things. I developed a passion for wine tasting when I went to the French vineyards. Something like that even those little bit of changes will help add a little bit more personality to your profile. Also, don't be negative. Don't use your profile as a chance to just complain about dating. And really a great picture will really set you up and go far. So have somebody take a digital camera, go out, take a bunch of pictures of yourself and add pictures that also add to your story. So have pictures where you're doing something you like, where you have something in the background that tells a little bit about yourself. Have the pictures add to your personality just as well as your essay.
Host (possibly Burt)
Okay, we're going to put all your information up online. Also, she's got two books. The books are at the coffee shop and Internet dating is not like ordering a pizza. And we'll link up to them up on our site at q100atlanta.com.
Jen
Thanks so much.
Host (possibly Burt)
Thanks Sherry.
Sherry Burback
Thanks. Bye bye bye.
Bert
The Birch show okay, can we talk about how confusing weight loss has become? Like one minute it's carbs are bad and then the next it's no, actually carbs are fine, but only if you walk 10,000 steps and drink a green juice. And honestly, it's just a lot. And then even if you do lose the weight, keeping it off is a whole different story. If you're struggling and want something that fits your real life, hers can help. It's designed to support you in reaching your goals and awaits that actually fits your life. That's why weight loss by hers is getting so much attention right now. Hers connects you with licensed medical providers who create doctor developed treatment plans tailored to you. They offer access to an affordable range of FDA approved GLP1 medications including the Wegovy Pill and the Wegovy pen. It helps regulate your appetite so you eat less and keep the weight off. If you're ready to reach your goals and want to try something new, visit for hers.combert to get personalized affordable care that gets you that's F O R h e r s.com Bert Borehurst.com Bird Weightless by hers is not available in all 50 states, but go is a registered trademark of Novo Nordisk A s Get started and learn more, including important safety information with govi clinical study information and restrictions.
Jeff
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Host (possibly Burt)
today the vert show so how'd it go this weekend here? I mean it's a pretty big deal. I mean, single dad wants to take you out. You were sort of on the fence about it.
Melissa
Kind of on the fence because we talked earlier in the week and all the time that I've been going out, I've been meeting a lot more dads that have had children and I didn' know if I want children. I still don't know if I want children. I'm only 24.
Jeff
And you've been hanging out a lot of Monkey Joes, right? Looking for guys there?
Melissa
Actually Johnny has hideaway.
Jeff
Yeah. Okay.
Host (possibly Burt)
Different kind of daddy. That's a sugar daddy.
Melissa
No, I mean I'm just not sure if I really want children yet. And it's. It was concerning with me and getting involved with a single dad because when you introduce, when you get introduced with to the kid at all and I don't want that responsibility just yet or I don't think I did. So I had a date lined up with this guy who had had a couple of conversations with, seemed really awes. So on Sunday we went to a sports bar and just watched some sports and had a couple of beers and some dinner. And I have to say it was probably the most attentive date I've ever had. Very concerned and asking me questions and getting to know about me. So conversation was great. Actually talked about his child for a little while, which I thought was cool. Showed me pictures and was just a really awesome dad, which I thought was cool cause he's caring. But besides that there was just no chemistry and I wanted there to be chemistry because he was so attentive. Like I think I've never been on a date where someone was just so concerned about getting to know you as a person.
Jen
How crazy Isn't that the point of a date?
Melissa
Weird kind of the point of the date.
Wendy
But I mean it sounds like he was a Respectful guy too.
Melissa
Very respectful. Concerned about if I was doing okay, if I needed anything else on the table.
Jen
But.
Melissa
But yeah, there's just.
Host (possibly Burt)
And guys you normally go out with. That's not the case.
Melissa
I mean, just constantly making sure if I needed anything. I mean, no, like, guys don't really ask questions. I mean, sometimes it's an incompet comfortable conversation, but they don't really, like, ask about your life and where you grew up and what else about you.
Wendy
Sometimes guys like to talk about themselves.
Host (possibly Burt)
Bird the entire time.
Jeff
And you guys do or don't like that.
Jen
Did you say something, Jeff?
Melissa
But other than that, there was no chemistry. And. But I honestly, I would never be opposed to dating a single dad because I thought it was great.
Wendy
You sort of open the doors to that category. Just not necessarily this dude.
Melissa
Yeah, not necessarily this guy. But there was nothing bad about him having a kid. I was actually really excited to learn about. About his child.
Host (possibly Burt)
Do you think that you would run into the same situation with other single dads just because you guys are at such different places in your life that there's just not. It doesn't even afford the time to be sort of compatible right now?
Melissa
Maybe. But I just. I mean, I don't know.
Wendy
I mean, you don't.
Jen
You don't know if it's a conscious thought that you didn't have chemistry or if it was just. It would have been there whether he was a single dad or not.
Melissa
I think so. I mean, yeah, I didn't have a problem that he had a kid. That was not even the issue. There's just no spark. There was nothing in the world.
Wendy
You didn't want it. Smooch him.
Melissa
There was no wanting to kiss him, go do a movie afterwards. There was just nothing there.
Host (possibly Burt)
Do you think that he was feeling the same way on his end or you think he's still interested?
Melissa
I think he was still interested at the end of the date. So I haven't text him back. He text me as soon as we got done with the date saying he had a great time. And I was like, I had a great time too, but I haven't really established that there won't be another date.
Host (possibly Burt)
Now here's. This is the interesting question right here, because as we said last week, is that if you're a single parent, the last thing in the world you have is time. Right. It's all about time management.
Melissa
Sure.
Host (possibly Burt)
So if you're a single parent and you get past the first date, you're still into it, but the person that you're with isn't. Would you just want to know on that second date or that second call just to say, hey, it's just not working for me, so you don't have to continue to go and waste your time.
Jen
Yeah, I mean, I think. I think it goes back to our conversation last week about there being a little more responsibility in communication when it comes to this. Him being, you know, communicating about his child and. And you being honest about how you feel about it. So maybe if, you know, there's really no shot, then maybe you do need to shut that door with him.
Wendy
I don't think you have to say anything after one date. I think you can just not return the phone call and not return the text, and it's fine.
Jeff
Cut it off.
Host (possibly Burt)
So the rules are the same, that if you're not interested, you just let
Wendy
it fade after one date, had they been out on three or four? Yes, it's worth a conversation or at least an exchange of an email or a text or something like that. But I think after one date, say,
Jen
there's a part of me that I feel bad. Like, I don't want him to think that it was because he's a dad,
Wendy
but that'd be me.
Jen
I'm just saying. I don't know if that applies, but
Jeff
I'd be like, so maybe there's some e card that says, I would like you even if you didn't, or I would not like you even if you had no kids.
Jen
Yeah, exactly like that.
Jeff
Type of. So there's gotta be a way to convey that message.
Jen
Blue Mountain, I'm sure has something with some kind of airbrush. You know, it's you. Yeah. It's not the kid.
Wendy
It's you.
Melissa
Can I.
Jen
Can I go? Can I babysit your kid then?
Host (possibly Burt)
Hey, Roxy. Good morning.
Sherry Burback
Good morning. Hey, guys. I'm actually in the same sort of situation, but I'm the one with the kids, okay? And I'm dating a guy who's forcing me to communicate all the time. It's kind of opposite of what y' all are doing. But I would want to know because it is all about time management, and it's hard to balance sometimes. But this guy I'm with is just so wonderful. He's so understanding when like, well, I can't go tonight. One of the kids is sick or whatever. But I would be honest with him. If you don't think there's gonna be another date, I would tell him after one date. Well, I mean, if she doesn't want to go out with him again, yeah.
Host (possibly Burt)
Okay, so doesn't. Wouldn't that be determined on how many. How aggressive he is at trying to get a second date? Like, if he keeps texting her, then at that point, shouldn't she say something? Or is she obligated immediately right now, the next time he texts to say, look, this isn't working for me?
Sherry Burback
Well, if she likes being pursued, then, yeah, keep letting him text her. I'm just saying.
Melissa
I mean, he hasn't text back after the initial text, and we did talk about how it's hard for him to date, but it literally. And the other key factor was that I don't think he's been divorced that long either. I think it's only been less than maybe eight months since he's been divorced, so I don't.
Wendy
Still pissed off.
Melissa
I can't tell.
Bert
I can't.
Melissa
I mean, I don't know.
Host (possibly Burt)
She stopped listening.
Melissa
I just wanted to talk about me. No, I mean, yeah. He said it's a problem dating. He's. He was like, thanks for taking a chance on me. Thanks for coming out and spending time with me. So I think that was a little bit of a iffy factor, too.
Jen
I don't want to be the real.
Host (possibly Burt)
I'm on the opposite end of Jen on this. I think if he texts you again or he calls you again, I think if I'm you just because he's a single dad and there's a time management issue there, I just go, hey, man, thanks so much, but this is more of a friendship thing for me than anything else.
Melissa
But that's only if.
Host (possibly Burt)
If. Yeah, I mean, I don't think you have to volunteer that. You're saying it was. So if he texts three, four, five
Wendy
times, everybody gets the point. If you don't hear from someone, they're not interested whether you got kids or not.
Jeff
And then if it.
Wendy
That's the universal sign of I'm not interested is ignore.
Host (possibly Burt)
Hey, Adam, We've got about 10 seconds here, man.
Sherry Burback
Hey, I'm a single dad, and I do have custody of my kid. It's just kind of. You do have to let him know because we really don't have time to waste time with everything else.
Host (possibly Burt)
So, like, she doesn't need to volunteer it, though, right? Like, if he texts or calls, then she'll let him know.
Sherry Burback
Yeah, that would be fine.
Jeff
Yeah.
Host (possibly Burt)
Okay, I'm gonna do it.
Jen
You're.
Host (possibly Burt)
Let him slide.
Melissa
There's no text message yet, so I don't have to worry about it. I guess I'll worry about that if it comes in or the phone calls come in, but right now, no.
Host (possibly Burt)
The bird show.
Bert
Okay, can we talk about how confusing weight loss has become? Like one minute it's carbs are bad and then the next it's no, actually carbs are fine, but only if you walk 10,000 steps and drink a green juice. And honestly, it's just a lot. And then even if you do lose the weight, keeping it off is a whole different story. If you're struggling and want something that fits your real life, hers can help. It's designed to support you in reaching your goals in a way that actually fits your life. That's why weight loss by hers is getting so much attention right now. Hers connects you with life's licensed medical providers who create doctor developed treatment plans tailored to you. They offer access to an affordable range of FDA approved GLP1 medications, including the Wegovy pill and the Wegovi pen. It helps regulate your appetite so you eat less and keep the weight off. If you're ready to reach your goals and want to try something new, visit fourhers.com Bert to get personalized affordable care that gets you that's F O R h e r s.com Bert for hers.com Bert weigh us by hers is not available in all 50 states. We go be registered trademark of Novo Nordisk A s get started and learn more including important safety information with govi, clinical study information and restrictions.
Jeff
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Bert
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Melissa
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Jeff
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Jen
And somebody's out of the show the rest of the time.
Jeff
So let's not do it.
Host (possibly Burt)
Someone's gonna be hurt. It's probably gonna be you.
Jeff
I don't. I've never been hurt by these.
Host (possibly Burt)
I know you haven't.
Melissa
And when coming up with these questions, I wanted mine to be, like, the best uncomfortable questions. So they were really good. But then I'm like, why did I just.
Jeff
Tracy, by the way, said yours were the best, worst.
Jen
Oh, really?
Melissa
Yeah.
Jen
So congratulations.
Host (possibly Burt)
Wendy went deep on this one.
Melissa
I wanted to win the competition that wasn't really a competition, but now I'm regretting it.
Host (possibly Burt)
Well, it was a tricky assignment because you had to write questions that were gonna be uncomfortable for others, but not so uncomfortable that if you got your own question, you had to answer it.
Jen
Right, so. Yeah, I mean, is it possible for us to hurt our own feelings in this game?
Wendy
Yes, possibly.
Jen
I'm offended by this question, and I wrote it.
Host (possibly Burt)
Should we just go right in order?
Wendy
Yeah, let's start. Do you want to say where it came from? Do you remember where it came from?
Jen
Torture and hell.
Wendy
Was it one of your wives or one of your friends? Wives.
Jeff
It was somebody who asked a question about. And then Burt brought up the question where Jessica asked me to compare her ass to some other girl's ass when we were walking to the mall.
Wendy
It was the one where, if your wife came to you and said, if I wasn't here and you had to hook up with one of my friends, who would it be? You have to answer it like, which one of your wife's friends you would want to make out with?
Host (possibly Burt)
And it's gonna be an uncomfortable. And you really don't want the answer.
Wendy
That's that kind of question. Right?
Host (possibly Burt)
All right, Jeff, since you are unbreakable, why don't you go first?
Jeff
That's it.
Wendy
Oh, cup of doom.
Jeff
Don't I draw it and read it?
Host (possibly Burt)
Or Bert's going for it, or I'm going to. If you had to call one member of the show to bail you out of jail, who would you call and why?
Jeff
Tracy. Because she's the one who would not be drunk.
Host (possibly Burt)
She'd be like, I can't leave my baby. There's no chance I'm leaving my baby.
Jeff
She'd bring her baby to jail.
Melissa
That was an easy question.
Jen
See, I was obviously one yours.
Wendy
I was writing nice ones.
Jeff
Oh, that was yours.
Jen
We're gonna get to the point now. We just own our question.
Host (possibly Burt)
Oh, sorry, Jen.
Wendy
Okay, what is this one?
Host (possibly Burt)
Which Burt show member do you like the least and why. Oh, do I like.
Jen
That's uncomfortable.
Wendy
Why do I like the least? God, I don't like anybody the least.
Jeff
Do you count? Are you counting interns?
Wendy
Current or former? Because I can pick out some former ones real quick.
Host (possibly Burt)
Ones we haven't talked to in five years. So there's nothing uncomfortable about it at all.
Jeff
Say, Jamie Massey.
Wendy
Does it have to be who wrote it? Does it have to be current?
Host (possibly Burt)
If we are trying to make this as uncomfortable as we can for each other, I think it's got to be
Jeff
one us current employee. Yeah,
Wendy
I don't really like any of you guys the least, I would say. I mean, I just.
Jeff
You look uncomfortable.
Host (possibly Burt)
Well, that's a crappy question.
Melissa
It is a crappy question.
Wendy
It's an uncomfortable question. I'm trying to think, because the first thing that came to my mind was Jeff. But I like Jeff the least in certain situations because he is the most honest with me, and it makes me squirm the most. So I would say sometimes when Jeff is bitingly honest, it gets mean, and it hurts my feelings sometimes. So I would say I would like Jeff's advice the least, but it's probably the best because it's the most honest. Does that make any sense?
Jeff
Real talk to you. That's a good, safe answer.
Host (possibly Burt)
That was a safe answer.
Wendy
Like when you sat me down at Sean's that night, and after we had lots and lots of beer that day,
Jeff
that made me uncomfortable, and you were,
Wendy
like, really, really harsh. It was really, really great advice, like, relationship advice and just life advice to me. But it kind of stung for days.
Host (possibly Burt)
If I were you, Jeff, I'd take that as a compliment. Like, if there's somebody in your life that you could totally trust no matter what, even if they hurt your feelings about it, but they'll give you brutal honesty. That's a person you keep close to.
Jeff
Bert, just so you know going forward that I will take any criticism of me and manipulate it into a compliment.
Host (possibly Burt)
I don't have to do it for you.
Jeff
You don't have to give me that advice, Captain.
Wendy
I got it.
Host (possibly Burt)
I wouldn't have been able to think that fast. I'm very proud of you.
Melissa
That was good.
Wendy
Well, because it's not like I really love you guys. I mean, I really love everybody in this room.
Host (possibly Burt)
Oh, I think I know.
Jen
Oh. What?
Host (possibly Burt)
I think you've shown.
Jen
I don't know what that means.
Jeff
Well, I just want to modify my answer to say I would call Tracy to bail me out of jail, and I certainly Will not call Jen now because she'll be like, oh, really? Well, you have a good time there. And the drunk tank. As I recollect our conversation at Sean's.
Host (possibly Burt)
Melissa, have you had a sexual dream about another Burt show member?
Wendy
Who.
Jen
I had a sexual dream about Jen since we've been on the show, but it didn't go well this morning. Not this morning. It didn't go real far. It was the got there and then I woke up before any action.
Host (possibly Burt)
Why don't you hate that?
Jen
But that's, that's. I'm trying to think if I've had a sex dream about anybody else.
Host (possibly Burt)
Did you try to put yourself back to sleep so you could be in the same situation?
Jen
I don't have to answer follow up questions.
Sherry Burback
Wait, no, wait.
Wendy
Can I ask a follow up question?
Host (possibly Burt)
It's like a senate hearing. You're looking for counsel.
Jen
No comment.
Wendy
In your dreams that I have bigger boobs?
Jen
I don't have a problem with your boobs.
Wendy
Oh, man. I was just hoping at least in somebody's dream I could have big boobs.
Host (possibly Burt)
She's more offended by that. That you don't have a problem with her boobs or anything else. Wendy.
Wendy
Good Lord.
Jeff
I hope Wendy draws one of her own just to teach her a lesson about really, really investing in these events.
Host (possibly Burt)
I have a feeling this one came from Wendy. If you could take back your virginity from your first partner, would you?
Melissa
Yeah, I'll call myself my question now.
Jen
Yeah.
Host (possibly Burt)
That is your question.
Melissa
It is my question.
Host (possibly Burt)
That is instant karma.
Wendy
That's good. That's actually a good question.
Melissa
No. Yes, I would. It was just nothing that I think I wanted to do at the time, but it's just something I felt I had to do, so absolutely would take it back.
Host (possibly Burt)
90% of women would probably say the same thing.
Melissa
Yeah.
Sherry Burback
Yeah.
Jeff
What class did he teach?
Melissa
He was not a teacher.
Jeff
Oh.
Wendy
What sport did he coach?
Melissa
He was my age.
Host (possibly Burt)
Well, it looks like that's all the time we have for on this segment. I'm just kidding. Who in your personal life have you been surprised that you had a sexual dream about?
Jeff
We are pervy. This is where it goes.
Wendy
This is the 4, 8:30 show.
Jen
7:30 in the morning.
Jeff
Jail friend. Pervy dream. Virginity. Pervy dream.
Host (possibly Burt)
Who in your personal life have you been surprised you had a sexual dream about Dopeine? I want to answer honestly, but I'm like crucial. I've been surprised. None of them have surprised me. I've had. I had a. Oh, I remember. Yes. And I've talked about this on the air before. Remember I had a sexual dream about my sister in law.
Jeff
You did?
Jen
Yeah.
Host (possibly Burt)
This was years and years and years ago.
Wendy
Your wife's brother.
Host (possibly Burt)
My wife's brother's wife. I couldn't figure out.
Wendy
Yeah.
Host (possibly Burt)
For the life of me, even today I can't figure out why.
Wendy
Had you just been like around each other.
Host (possibly Burt)
Around each other or something that weekend? Yeah. And then I came home that week and I'm like, what? Really? Somewhere deep down in there, we're doing
Melissa
two rounds of this.
Host (possibly Burt)
Yeah.
Wendy
Yours is an easy question.
Host (possibly Burt)
Oh, this one. This is a great one.
Wendy
I'm not the worst one so far, by the way.
Bert
You did.
Jeff
Are we doing this draft style? So now you answer too, and we go back the other way.
Host (possibly Burt)
I wasn't planning on it. This is a good one for you to take, though. What's your top complaint about our listeners?
Jeff
Oh, they're there all the time.
Host (possibly Burt)
Yeah. Doesn't that suck now? That suck being part of a show that has ratings.
Jen
You had one yesterday.
Jeff
I did,
Host (possibly Burt)
Yeah.
Jeff
No, I could bring that one up. I don't really have a complaint about the listeners because I honestly appreciate them, but I have a complaint about people in general. And I think it applies more to professionals or professional peers. But I have a complaint. And thank you, Melissa, for reminding me of this because I complained about it yesterday.
Jen
He was going off about it yesterday.
Jeff
When people think that between 5:30 and 10, when we're doing the show that there is like access to us. So it's, hey, I'm gonna stop by. Like, people show up in the studio sometimes with, you know, a clown to promote the circus. Yeah. I just need to get in the studio and let the bird show know the circus is in town. Like, seriously, come on. Like, we're doing a show. Like, it's not. I get. I think so. My complaint would be, and again, this doesn't. This applies more to business associates than peers. That while our job is very fun and very low key and I think we do a great job of making it appear easy, that there is still work that goes into it. And I would like a little more appreciation for the fact that when we are working, it really is work.
Wendy
Sort of respecting those boundaries.
Jeff
Yes.
Host (possibly Burt)
The dude that I used to work with in Dallas used to tell his wife when they were first starting to go out and she would call him during the show for like, personal stuff, like to pick something up. He'd say, look, if Bon Jovi was on stage, would his wife be on the side stage going, hey, don't forget to bring up some milk when you get off stage. It was the same thing for him. Like this is his stage right here.
Jen
I'm surprised she was calling him during the show.
Host (possibly Burt)
Jen.
Jen
Yes.
Host (possibly Burt)
Have you ever. You guys are sexual, man. Have you guys ever. Have you ever paid for sex or any sexual services?
Wendy
No. Why would a woman have to.
Bert
That is very true.
Jeff
So have you ever just.
Melissa
You can just go down to the Buckhead bars.
Host (possibly Burt)
Yeah.
Jeff
Have you ever?
Wendy
Yeah, I mean, I could walk to the 711 right now and walk to. Hey, would you like to. Yeah.
Sherry Burback
Okay.
Host (possibly Burt)
That's actually our 8:15 bit.
Wendy
Oh, good. Okay.
Jeff
7:11 random or whatever.
Wendy
You know what I mean? Like that women don't. That's a bad question to direct at a woman.
Host (possibly Burt)
Melissa, true or false? I have a huge personal secret that I haven't shared with anybody on the bird show for fear it will be exposed on the air.
Jen
No, because I think the biggest skeleton in my closet is that I'm gay. And I think everybody knows that by now.
Host (possibly Burt)
And you're serious about that thing?
Jen
Yeah, there are some people that actually think that I'm lying about it. No, that would have been. I mean that would have been the answer up until age 25, of course. But I think that by growing up with such what I considered a huge secret that would cause people not to love me anymore. Is what you think then? I think that since then it's, you know, I. That, that pretty much took the cake for my.
Jeff
If we asked that question at 22 year old, Melissa, would you have been paranoid that we knew?
Jen
Yes.
Jeff
So would.
Jen
You're always paranoid.
Sherry Burback
Yeah.
Jeff
Oh my God. They know.
Jen
Yeah. When you're trying to hide something. And that's. I mean that's. I think that's just the thing about hiding something is like it may seem for some people, you know, kind of alluring or something in the beginning, but it's. It's so energy draining that it just. You always are paranoid about it.
Host (possibly Burt)
If we were both 22 and you hadn't told us publicly, I would have assumed you were a lesbian because you would have been ignoring me sexually.
Jen
But see, it's really.
Host (possibly Burt)
And the only reason why is because you're a lesbian. You're just not attracted to dudes, right?
Jen
Well, up until 22 I was going out with guys, so I did enough to get by.
Host (possibly Burt)
Okay.
Jen
Yeah.
Host (possibly Burt)
This is a good one for you, Wendy. And it's probably one that came from you.
Melissa
Perfect.
Host (possibly Burt)
If you had to pick one person on the show to kiss for a Solid two minutes. Who would it be and why?
Melissa
Wait, I've already done that. I mean, I've kissed a couple of
Host (possibly Burt)
you guys, but this one, you get to choose.
Wendy
You have to choose. And it's a solid two minutes.
Host (possibly Burt)
That's eternity.
Melissa
Two minutes.
Host (possibly Burt)
Two minutes.
Jen
Oh, Lord.
Jeff
Feeling oddly competitive right now.
Wendy
Golly.
Melissa
I'd have to go with Jen because I don't want to kiss any of the guys.
Host (possibly Burt)
I knew she was gonna slay him.
Sherry Burback
I knew you were gonna take the
Host (possibly Burt)
easy way out on that.
Melissa
Of the guys I've already kissed Bert uncomfortable. Jeff didn't.
Jen
Yeah, well, because she knows that Jenna be equally uncomfortable. They'll do the whole, like, rip their lips out as much as possible, but
Wendy
else you pick the one girl who's not into girls. I think the one person who's not into girls.
Jeff
And the cool thing with Jan is you could go up her shirt and pretend it's a boy.
Host (possibly Burt)
Oh, dear.
Wendy
That's not true. I wear padded bras.
Host (possibly Burt)
I drew an easy one for the last one. Do you think you are the best looking member of the show? Absolutely. I mean, it's not even close.
Wendy
We still.
Host (possibly Burt)
I mean, we'll do these from time to time. They're still. I think that was an easy first round. To be honest with you, Jen, you drew a tough one. Yeah, but in general, I think that was a pretty easy first round.
Jen
Why do you want to make it even more?
Host (possibly Burt)
I mean, because it's just not.
Jen
Why do you want to sabotage the show?
Host (possibly Burt)
Hey, the bird show.
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Jeff
The Bird Show I've got a question
Wendy
for the straights and for the gays, and this is a discussion I was having with a straight guy over the weekend. Okay, what I can't quite comprehend is why straight women and gay men have such a love affair with one another. Like love, love, love gay men. Like, I have so many gay male friends in my life. We talk about everything. We do all kinds of fun things together. We go out, we have dinner. We just have so many different things in common, including our interest in men. And so it can go towards that type of conversation as well. You know, all kinds of things, tips and advice I can learn from from my gay male friends. Well, here's my questions for the straights and the gays. Why don't men and lesbians have that same camaraderie with each other? Because couldn't they learn just as much about women together as straight women and gay men do? Like, why is the love affair going across the. Like if there's a tic toe, a tic tac toe board or whatever, why is it going one way across the board but not the other way across the board?
Jen
Because the guy's still trying. Like a straight guy, straight Guys in my life, there's not the same, I think, respect factor for the relationship. Like straight women, I think, have a respect for the gay guy and his boyfriend. Yeah, I don't. And I'm generalizing here. Certainly it's not every straight guy, but a lot of times that's a straight man's fantasies to women. So especially if it's a good looking lesbian he wants to be friends with, he's trying to hit that. He's not trying to be buddies with her and get advice on women.
Wendy
But if they could get sort of past that point, maybe it wasn't a good looking lesbian couple. Maybe it's a lesbian couple that you don't like, Bert. That you don't find attractive. Couldn't you learn something from what she's doing with her girlfriend? Like, and, you know, so maybe some, you know, some techniques or some, you know, whatever. Because, you know.
Host (possibly Burt)
Well, it would be the reason why we've received emails before from women that say that they ask their men to watch adult movies with women in them. So their guys will learn from the women in the movies, will kind of
Wendy
learn what's going on. Exactly. Well, and I mean, if straight men were comfortable with it, they may ask their women to watch gay men in the same way. Right? That's the reverse. It's not different. That's the reverse situation.
Jeff
If there was a core line called these gay men are smaller than Jeff down there, then I would consider it.
Wendy
Then you would consider it.
Jeff
Sure.
Wendy
I don't know. I just think that there's just this love affair between straight women and gay men. And I think that. But it's such a great relationship because I don't feel threatened at all. I know they're not interested in me at all, and that is such a great place to be. But it's still different than having a girlfriend because it's a guy. I don't know. I just wish that straight guys and lesbians were the same way.
Jeff
I think the difference, the guy difference is from a guy's mentality. Because I certainly think I'm friendly enough with Melissa that I could go ask her any questions like that. But I think if that thought occurred to me, my first thought would be, well, she's a lesbian, so they do things differently. So it doesn't. Number one, it doesn't apply. And number two, I can figure it out.
Wendy
No, you can't. You could really learn a lot, but you can't.
Jeff
Like, that's the logic. A guy's logic. A guy doesn't Ask for directions, driving a car.
Host (possibly Burt)
We got this.
Jeff
Why is he gonna ask for questions?
Host (possibly Burt)
We got to have the same relationship.
Jeff
Like, it doesn't.
Host (possibly Burt)
And it puts you in a vulnerable. It would put you in a vulnerable spot. Right. You'd feel.
Jeff
Cause you have to admit to Melissa,
Host (possibly Burt)
like, hey, or whoever, something ain't right. Yeah.
Wendy
That maybe you need some help with something. See, to me, it's an interesting curiosity. Like, with my gay male friends, I'm like, well, do you do this or what do you do when this is happening?
Jeff
Because girls like to talk and blah, blah, blah.
Wendy
Guys, maybe we're more receptive to getting advice because, I mean, I've really gotten some good advice from my gay male friends.
Host (possibly Burt)
Hey, Ashley. Good morning. You're on the Burt Show.
Sherry Burback
Hi, guys. Love the show.
Bert
Thank you.
Sherry Burback
I am gay, and I have kind of that advice relationship with my straight friends, my straight guy friends. I don't like to necessarily be one of the dudes, you know, where they want to talk about every girl that walks by and what she's rocking and that kind of thing where it gets just gross. But once I get across that line where they know I'm not interested in them and they can forget about it and they're comfortable with that, the questions just start pouring out and, you know, from everything sexual to relationship, like, I have no problem giving that advice. And we can kind of talk about that, and it seems to really help them.
Host (possibly Burt)
Thank you for coming.
Wendy
So you're the exception.
Host (possibly Burt)
Here's Angie. Good morning.
Sherry Burback
Hey. Yeah, I think it's the fact that some men, of course. Generalizing again, that some men have. Can't comprehend the fact that every woman doesn't want them.
Jeff
I'm pretty sure that Melissa doesn't want me. Yeah. I don't think that's an issue. She's really made that really abundantly clear.
Jen
I see what you're saying, though. It is. Yeah. Because, I mean, instead of guys asking advice on what. How they can please, you know, women or whatever about women, they're always asking us, well, what do you do? I don't understand, like, why you. Seriously. I mean, you've never been with a guy, you know, so it's. Yeah. The relationships.
Wendy
I wonder how it's satisfying with the missing pieces parts.
Jen
Gay men and straight women have a lot more in common than straight men and lesbians do. It's just strange interest of the way they. Yeah, just. I think it's. It's the way they see women is different. What they appreciate about women is different.
Host (possibly Burt)
Where guys are More physical in the physical. And women are not. Hey, Chas. Good Morning. You're on Q100.
Sherry Burback
Good morning, guys. Can I just say how much I've missed y' all since I moved away from Atlanta?
Wendy
Oh, we're glad you're back.
Host (possibly Burt)
You sure can.
Sherry Burback
I'm visiting today for a business meeting, and I'm so glad to be able to listen to you.
Jeff
Thank you.
Sherry Burback
You know, I was saying earlier how much. How great of an opportunity it is to hang out with all my stray drive friends. I mean, you know, we're all checking out girls at the same time, but, I mean, I'm giving them advice. My friends over in Augusta, I just gave him advice because he's all shy about this girl he's trying to talk to. And, you know, I'm kind of metrosexualing him up. So I'm like, this is how you gotta talk to him. And this is. You know, and it's great because there's no sexual tension there between us. So it really opens up an opportunity to have great friends. But at the same time, you know, my girlfriend and I, our best friend is a drag queen. So, I mean, it's great. It's just awesome. It's an awesome dynamic.
Host (possibly Burt)
So she's on. She's so there.
Wendy
Yeah. So there are some lesbian and straight men friendships.
Host (possibly Burt)
Hey, Melissa. Good morning, Yellow.
Melissa
Hello.
Host (possibly Burt)
We can't end on that note or can we? Every guy. Every guy friend I have is because I'm gay. She was gonna say so. She's already taken sort of advantage of that. Like, all her guy friends ask her for advice all the time.
Jen
Well, the one thing, though, like, you know, the straight guy friends I do have, like, they. I'm the only girl they can hang out with that their wives are okay with. You know, like, sometimes when a guy. Straight guys don't want to hang out with the. You know, in the. You know, the. The man room with their buddies and just want to have a more casual night, then. Then, yeah, I'm the one that their wives trust.
Host (possibly Burt)
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Melissa
Did the car have a sunroof?
Host (possibly Burt)
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Date: June 15, 2026
Episode Theme:
A lively, authentic morning with The Bert Show crew featuring real-life drama, dating dilemmas, and hilarious, sometimes uncomfortable games—plus frank discussions around identity and relationships, all with their trademark humor and camaraderie.
With Guest: Sherry Burback, Author & Online Dating Expert
(Timestamps: 01:24–09:14)
Biggest Profile Mistakes:
“Not taking a brand new picture of yourself, what you look like right now...instead of holding onto a picture that's a little bit too old or cropping out… an ex-girlfriend… that's a big no-no.” – Sherry Burback (01:53)
Honesty Versus Tweaking:
“I don't encourage people to lie. I'm not sure where you know what exactly they're talking about with lying... overall, I think people are pretty honest.” – Sherry Burback (02:42)
Message Etiquette:
Best and Worst Dating Sites:
“If you pay to have a profile set up, you're probably more serious about it.” – Sherry Burback (04:55)
Niche Sites:
Who Dates More Online?
Remaining Stigma:
“I think there is and there shouldn't be because it's just... such a great way to meet people.” – Sherry Burback (06:56)
Quick Profile Tweaks for More Replies:
(Timestamps: 11:32–18:51)
Melissa’s Date with a Single Dad:
“I wanted there to be chemistry because he was so attentive... but there was just no spark.” – Melissa (12:56)
Should You Tell If You're Not Interested?
“I don't think you have to say anything after one date. I think you can just not return the phone call and not return the text, and it's fine.” – Wendy (15:31) “...just because he's a single dad and there's a time management issue there, I just go, hey, man, thanks so much, but this is more of a friendship thing for me.” – Host (17:55)
Perspective from Single Parents:
(Timestamps: 21:08–34:24)
Concept:
Memorable Moments & Quotes:
“Which Bert show member do you like the least and why?” led Wendy to admit Jeff’s “biting honesty” can sting:
“I like Jeff the least in certain situations because he is the most honest... it kind of stung for days.” – Wendy (24:08) “If there's somebody in your life that you could totally trust no matter what, even if they hurt your feelings... that's a person you keep close to.” – Host (24:55)
Jeff’s complaint about listeners—not really the listeners, but business people who disregard their broadcast hours:
“While our job is very fun... there is still work that goes into it. I would like a little more appreciation for the fact that when we are working, it really is work.” – Jeff (29:48)
Sexual dream confessions and schoolyard awkwardness, including Melissa’s regret over her first time, and who on the show they’d kiss for two minutes.
Jen’s frankness about coming out and what it means for secrets:
“The biggest skeleton in my closet is that I'm gay. And I think everybody knows that by now.” – Jen (31:43) “It may seem for some people, you know, kind of alluring or something in the beginning, but... It's so energy draining... you always are paranoid about it.” – Jen (32:18)
(Timestamps: 36:28–43:39)
The Question:
“I have so many gay male friends... but why don’t men and lesbians have that same camaraderie?” – Wendy (36:30)
Cast Theories:
“A guy doesn't ask for directions driving a car... why is he gonna ask for questions?” – Host & Jeff (39:48–39:52)
Caller Experiences:
Some lesbians have advice-giving relationships with straight male friends, but confirm it’s rare.
“Once I get across that line where they know I'm not interested in them... the questions just start pouring out...” – Ashley, caller (40:20)
Jen notes wives trust their husbands with lesbian friends, so they're a safe hangout.
“Don’t just list things about yourself... Say, why you like those things.”
—Sherry Burback on online profile tips (08:25)
“Sometimes when Jeff is bitingly honest, it gets mean, and it hurts my feelings sometimes. So... I would like Jeff’s advice the least, but it’s probably the best because it’s the most honest.”
—Wendy (24:08)
“It may seem for some people... kind of alluring... but it's so energy draining... you always are paranoid about it.”
—Jen on living with a secret (32:18)
This Bert Show episode delivers on its promise of real, relatable—and often laugh-out-loud—conversations about love, life, and friendship. Whether dissecting the messiness of online dating, navigating the complexities of dating as a single parent, or challenging each other with cringeworthy questions, the cast brings honesty, wit, and warmth. Their candid exchange about the unique bonds between straight women and gay men versus other friendship dynamics is an especially engaging highlight—underscoring the value of respect, boundaries, and vulnerability in any relationship.
Whether you’re single, partnered, straight, gay, or just here for the laughs, this episode is densely packed with insights, empathy, and humor.