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Caller 1
are you really buying a car online on Autotrader right now?
Caller 2
Really?
Caller 1
At a playground?
Caller 2
Yeah, really. Look at these listings from dealers.
Katie
Wow.
Caller 1
Your search can really get that specific.
Caller 2
Really?
Caller 1
And you just put in your info and boom, car's in your budget.
Jeff
Mom needs a second.
Caller 2
Honey.
Caller 1
You can really have it delivered.
Caller 2
Really? Or I can pick it up at the dealership. One sec, sweetie.
Katie
Mommy's buying a car.
Sarah
Mommy, look.
Caller 1
I think you kid is walking up the slide.
Caller 2
Kyle. Again?
Sarah
Really?
Jeff
Auto trader.
Caller 2
Buy your car online? Really?
Jeff
The Birch Show. Hey, Bethany.
Jen
Hi there, guys.
Jeff
Hi. How are you today?
Jen
I'm good.
Sarah
I'm very anxious to get my name cleared.
Jeff
Now, I'm curious if your boyfriend. If you told him about this and he is listening right now also.
Jen
I did.
Laura
I did.
Sarah
I told him the situation's gotten out of hand.
Jen
I think I found a way to
Sarah
actually put his mind at ease.
Jeff
Okay, here's what you're listening for right now. This sound effect right here is the software, the voice analyzing software picking up stress. This is what you'll hear. Okay, so in casual conversation, you're just gonna hear. There'll be nothing behind her voice.
Burt
And only Bert hears that.
Jeff
And this is the lie detector picking up just like. I mean, it's. The stress levels are way high. And this is what the lie detector interprets as a lie. Okay, so what?
Burt
Subtle.
Jeff
So keep in mind we're having a conversation and I'm hearing all this stuff go on in my head. So from time to time, I'll hear this.
Katie
See, I'd be so distracted because if that happened, I'd start laughing or something.
Jeff
I'd yell out, whoa, liar laugh.
Katie
It's like, what? Nothing. Don't worry about it.
Burt
It sounds almost like it should be sending a shock through the phone and zapping the person.
Jeff
Okay, here you go.
Sarah
My stepbrother and I are extremely close, and my boyfriend met him and everything, but what my boyfriend didn't know. And what I shared with him before we were stepbrother and sister. He was actually my first French kiss shortly after that. I mean, my ear and I.
Ashley
Parents.
Jen
Okay, can I comment on some of those?
Jeff
Let me pause it. Okay, go ahead.
Sarah
Okay.
Jen
Those. Okay. If it says it's picking up stress or elevated heart rate.
Laura
Okay.
Jen
I'm talking about my best friend in
Sarah
the world coming to visit me.
Jen
Okay. I would think that, like, you get
Sarah
excited about anyone, like, if it was like, you know, your best friend or,
Jen
you know, if you had a good
Sarah
relationship with your parents or something like.
Jen
Or, you know, if you're excited for someone, isn't that normal to have an elevated heartbeat? I don't. I don't think that is translating to stress.
Jeff
I can say one or the other. You know, why it's picking up the stress. But what you're saying makes sense to me. But it's not like the lie detector can tell me exactly what.
Sarah
Yeah.
Jeff
What the truth is and what's not.
Commentator
Right. Because to me, the whole situation and that there's a point of contention between your stepbrother and your boyfriend is stressful. And that's the whole reason you called us. So to me, these heartbeats aren't really that weird.
Jeff
Yeah, we got plenty more to go here.
Burt
We're overanalyzing the stress that comes from, like, I mean, she. That. What if this is the last. What if this is the last heartbeat? Or even. What if we don't hear a buzzer during the entire call? Then I don't think this is a big deal because she's obviously nervous at the beginning. As we start to approach the topic.
Jeff
Yeah, There are more important things in this call that you're going to want to address.
Burt
That's what I. Yeah.
Sarah
Going through similar situations, and we were going through a lot.
Jen
So basically that's what happened.
Sarah
But now it's just gotten totally blown out of proportion.
Laura
So that's what's going on.
Interviewer
On the air. You told us that there are times where you go, and, I mean, he's your stepbrother, so you'll go to New York and you'll meet up with him and you guys will hang out for a weekend. Tell me a little bit about those weekends.
Sarah
I guess it's. I mean, they're fun. I have a good time. I mean, of course, as a model, like, A, he has tons of beautiful friends, but B, you know, like, they like to party a lot. So we'll, you know, we'll go out to bars or they have, like, Private events, after shows. Or else we'll go back to his, like, loft apartment and we'll have drinks there and music. So it's basically just like hanging out. Usually nighttime, it's like, with a bunch of people. And then during the day, like, you know, we'll go and get brunch or maybe we'll go walk around in the museum or go to the park, you know, so during the day, it's usually just us. And at night, we're always hanging around a bunch of people. So, like, at night, we're not really alone together. Just like during the day.
Interviewer
When you've been at his loft, has anything outside of simple simply being a stepbrother and stepsister, has it ever been escalated to anything other than that?
Chris
No.
Sarah
I mean, no. No. I mean, like, you know, like, if you see your brother or your sister, mother, like, you'll give him a kiss on the cheek. Or, like, you know, if, you know, before I go to bed, like, you know, give him a little kiss on his forehead or something. But it's not. It's not like. It's not like, sexual or anything. It's just completely normal. Mother, sister type.
Jen
Okay, can we stop?
Jeff
Yes, we can.
Jen
I have no idea why that would say that's a lie. It is absolutely not. All we do, like I said, like,
Laura
before bed, it'll be a hug, a
Jen
kiss on the cheek. Nothing else happens with that. And I mean, the only thing I can think of why that would say it was a lie is because, I
Sarah
don't know, maybe nervous or, you know, I mean, I'm definitely nervous now.
Ashley
My boyfriend's listening this and this.
Jen
It's just not true.
Sarah
I'm telling you, okay?
Jeff
I'm just telling you what is the stress and what it's picking up and where the lie detector is saying that there's not 100% truth coming out of you. Let's. Let's go on with it.
Interviewer
As you're talking, I can hear the lie detector. It indicates to me, with sound effects, if you're stressed out or not. And immediately when you said that you guys have been hanging out at the loft, it registered some stress. And then it's also indicating when you're talking about just hanging out and nothing sexual going on, that it's registering stress and it's also registering some lies. So is there anything that you can think of that's happened in that loft that's been even a little bit outside of a brother and sister relationship?
Sarah
I'm telling you, I don't know why it would register. Maybe it's registering stress because I'm so,
Jen
like nothing is happening.
Sarah
I think what stresses me out is that I know nothing has happened that is inappropriate as an adult.
Interviewer
Do you have any kind of attraction or sexual feelings towards your brother in law at all?
Sarah
You mean my stepbrother?
Interviewer
Yeah, your stepbrother. I'm sorry.
Laura
No, no.
Sarah
And then that's like the whole point is that, I mean, I love.
Jen
Okay, can we stop it there?
Laura
I think that's a good idea.
Jeff
I think that's a good idea.
Burt
God, that buzz is so. It's like that's a bucket of water.
Jeff
That's hard to avoid.
Burt
Yeah.
Jeff
So I mean, it's consistently showing stress and consistently showing lies in that one area.
Jen
Yeah, I think it is because that's the point that I get most, you know, upset about is because this is the whole issue that people are just pushing this.
Sarah
Like, you know, you know, I'm making out with him. Like things are going on and I'm so adamantly not. And maybe that's why it's coming up.
Jeff
There's still about a minute and a half left of the call, so let's just continue on and then we can debate afterwards.
Sarah
They're just like totally different. You know, I love my stepbrother. I care for him. You know, I want the best for him. He's basically like my best friend. You know, I love him, but, you know, I'm related to him. You know, I don't want to, you know, I would never like, pursue any romantic relationship with him at all.
Interviewer
So if you're going to summarize and you were going to like, speak right to your boyfriend and you were going to tell him and try to alleviate his fears about you and your stepbrother, what exactly do you want him to know?
Sarah
I guess I would say, honey. I'd say, honey, there is nothing, nothing to worry about. My stepbrother is someone who's very important to me. We grew up during some of the hardest times in our life. And I love him, I care about him. But I also love and care deeply about you. I would never hurt you. I wouldn't cheat on you. I just, I would never do anything to jeopardize our relationship. It just so happens I have a very, very close friendship and kinship and bond with my stepbrother. And I. And, but I. And I'm not going to break that though. And I don't want to have to apologize for that. I just want you to understand that I am faithful. If that's what I want to say.
Interviewer
So bottom line is your boyfriend has zero to worry about and it's ridiculous.
Sarah
Absolutely. That's. Yes, 100% yes.
Jeff
All right, before we take the calls and before you feel like you need to defend yourself, especially because your boyfriend is still listening, Jeff, why don't you tell her the accuracy rate that the software picked up on?
Burt
And it's not so much where it's, you know, the percentage of lying. I think it's where the lying was because those buzzers went off in some dangerous places. But it said you're 63% honest, which means you're 37% less than honest, which means that about one third of the time during that phone call, you showed enough stress that the computer thought you were not truthful.
Jen
I think just like you said, it showed stress, okay?
Sarah
Which set off a buzzer.
Jen
But all I gotta say is it was just stress. It's a stressful situation to constantly have to, you know, try to convince people
Sarah
that you're not lying when absolutely in your heart you know you're telling the truth.
Jeff
Look, I'm not saying one way or the other that that's not true, but I think when you set up polygraphs or with this software, the computer knows that. So that's why we had that two minute conversation in the very beginning, so it could pick up on those stress levels, your normal stress levels. So that's not a really great argument, I guess.
Katie
I mean, for me, because some of the. And I know that in this conversation you were defending him and defending your relationship with him, your brother, your best friend. But I feel like if you're doing that all the time with your boyfriend, it just. Just so comes across that, you know, you're defending him more, that he means so much more to you than your boyfriend does. So that's where I think your boyfriend, probably from the beginning, started being like, well, dude, I mean, I wish you'd talk to me, talk about me the same way you're talking about him. And I'm not saying that's right or wrong. I'm just saying that it's just your language about your stepbrother. I mean, it's cool that you're that close, but I mean, if you have a boyfriend, I think because he's a guy, I think your boyfriend's threatened by that.
Commentator
But still, it's family. I would choose my family over a jealous boyfriend any day.
Jeff
Yeah, I mean, I said this Friday, too. Like, if this is the case and he's that jealous, I just think that there's something there where it's just not normal for a guy to be jealous of another. It doesn't even matter if he's a stepbrother anyway. Let's say even if this guy was just a friend, it happened 11 years ago or more than that, when he was 11 years old.
Jen
It just, I think this has got
Sarah
to mean something, right? That, you know, I did call in. I did want to make the effort
Jen
to prove to my boyfriend that I wasn't lying. I mean, there's no reason that, you
Sarah
know, why would I call up then be like, hey, you know, I'm telling
Jen
the truth just to have my boyfriend listen to purposely tell lies.
Burt
Do you think your stepbrother will go on the lie detector with Burt?
Sarah
No.
Interviewer
Why not?
Burt
Would you be willing to ask him? Because if his comes across crystal clear, then we could justify just his nervousness.
Jen
But, I mean, I think he would be a little, kind of like I am.
Caller 1
Like, I don't think.
Jen
I think he would be kind of amazed.
Laura
No, I think he would be amazed
Jen
that anyone would have to ask him because I think he would think it was as absurd as, you know, I do with that. Because, you know, what is he going to justify?
Jeff
I mean, will you call him today and just ask him if he wants to go on it?
Sarah
Because if he wants to go on
Burt
it, then Bert would call him after the show, same way he did it with you after the show tomorrow. And then we would play it for you and your boyfriend on Wednesday.
Jeff
Well, I mean, we'll make the offer to you. If you want to ask your stepbrother if he wants to come on later on today, then I'll put him on it also. And if you think that would help, great. If you think it'll hurt your case, then don't do it. But at this point, I don't know how it could hurt.
Jen
I don't have anything to hide. So, yeah, yeah, I can give him a call.
Jeff
Okay, I'll call you after the show and we'll see if we can put it together.
Laura
All right, Sounds good.
Jeff
Bye. Bye. The Birch Show.
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Jeff
Hey, Laura, good morning.
Burt
You're on 8:15.
Laura
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You need to call a favor in Atlanta. Will you get an expert on to teach people how to drive?
Sarah
I am not kidding.
Laura
You got that restaurant guy on talks about sad restaurants. How about somebody getting on and talking about people who can't drive? People in the left lane should be going faster than the people in the right lane. They can go over the speed limit. There's three out of every 12 cars. Somebody's on a device. If you're on a device, you're not driving, you're paying. Oh, I'm so mad.
Chris
You don't know what are you late to work?
Laura
Thank you, but I'm late to work all the time. So they know it because I drive freaking 12, 20 miles. My job anyway.
Jeff
What is it that we can provide for you? Just looking for an avenue to get
Laura
on, get somebody people will believe, who will sit there and tell people the rules of the road, whatever it is, because honestly, Atlanta doesn't know what they are anymore. I get up industrial and the left lane is now the slow lane. I don't understand it.
Katie
She's talking right to me. I totally am. I love this woman. I think. I really think I'm in love with this woman.
Laura
I had a woman in the left lane. Texting with two hands yesterday.
Katie
Oh, no.
Laura
And she jutted into the right lane and then jutted back. I'm like, are you crazy? And women putting on makeup. This is not just a guy thing. I saw a man eating a bowl of cereal. This has got to stop. I want to make signs. I want to shove them in people's face when I drive. I don't know what to do. It's like, I know I'm not the only one feeling this way, so please get somebody.
Burt
Do you feel any better right now?
Laura
I will when I get to work and I don't get yelled at.
Jeff
You sound like you're a little bit more relieved now.
Burt
Let's just. Let me ask you a few questions.
Laura
Who will talk to everybody?
Burt
Okay, Let me just. I just want to ask you a few questions and I don't want you to get mad, okay?
Laura
Just.
Jeff
All right.
Burt
What time are you due in the office?
Laura
In six minutes.
Burt
What time did you leave your house?
Laura
40 minutes prior to that. So 20 after.
Burt
Okay. And is that what time you leave every morning?
Laura
People were going five miles under the speed limit.
Jeff
Okay.
Burt
I'm just asking. You leave at that time every morning, but then you say that you're late all the time.
Laura
Don't dry fast.
Burt
I'm just asking some Explorers.
Laura
No, I'm not late every single day.
Sarah
No.
Laura
And on a good day, it's great. It's actually a 60 minute commute. No traffic, all green. It's a 30 minute commute. When everybody drives like a normal human being and then it just drags on. And not just that I get on the highway and then you get everybody who can't drive on the highway.
Jeff
I think this is the kind of call. Jeff, stop. I think this is the kind of call that you just need to allow them to speak. They don't need to be debated or challenged. She's debating. She is looking for us for some reason.
Laura
Work 12 hour days. So I don't, you know, I don't want to spend an hour getting to work and be there a half hour early just when everything is right.
Jeff
Just unload, darling. Go ahead, keep going.
Laura
If you need to know, I just honestly get an expert. You need to call out to your listeners or get somebody that you can think of or anybody who knows how to drive that. We need to be educated. I'm sorry, there's. When you get a license in Atlanta, you need more education than this. When you go your little driving classes and stuff like that. It's bad enough we get the kids on the road, you know, I want everybody to know how the basic rules. But when it comes to driving for commutes, people need to understand the courtesies and basic rules of the road.
Jeff
Laura, let me start a support group for you because here's Gary. Good morning, Gary.
Sarah
Thank you.
Chris
How y' all doing today?
Jeff
All right. Will you speak to Laura, please? Tell her you feel her pain.
Chris
Yeah, Laura, I feel your pain. I am a local truck driver. Thank you.
Laura
I know you guys understand.
Chris
I don't know what people are thinking when they're on the road. They're texting, they're eating, they're doing their makeup. They're. I mean, just stupid.
Laura
Climbing on brakes. I mean, it's like, hello. No signals. Oh, it's like.
Commentator
And I think. I think even if you're going the speed limit, you need to get out of the left lane.
Jeff
Oh, yeah.
Commentator
Like, that's for people who want to.
Jeff
Passing lane.
Katie
Yeah.
Laura
That will be probably one of the number of reasons. Cause a deadly wreck, because people who know how to drive, that are confident driving will try to get around you by passing on the left. Excuse me, on the right. And that's no good.
Jeff
And even if you have that attitude, let's say you're cruising along at 75 or 80 miles an hour, okay?
Laura
And that's fine.
Jeff
Let's say you are, and there's somebody behind you that's good. That wants to go 90.
Laura
I move out of the way.
Jeff
I still think you got to get out of the way. But I've seen some people with an attitude. I'm already going 75. Can't you?
Laura
And there's always going to be somebody who can drive better or more quickly and more confidently than I can. So I will move out of the way. And I understand that. And I put two hands on the wheel and I focus forward or look at my rearview mirrors. I'm not so distracted that I end up, you know, in the other lane and don't even know it and have to get honked at to move back over.
Jeff
You feel better? You feel a little bit better now.
Laura
A little bit. I have another. I got technically another eight minutes before I can actually get to work. I know exactly where I'm at, and I will be calm by then.
Katie
Okay.
Jeff
So long as we could help a little bit.
Laura
Oh, get somebody on. I'm not kidding. Get. Here's a guy going 90.
Jen
Cool.
Jeff
The bird show on Friday. We asked you guys if you were going into the weekend, and it was potentially a life change weekend. We Took two pretty intriguing calls. One was from a virtual listener that was auditioning for a.
Caller 2
It's like a majorette type thing.
Katie
Dance.
Jeff
Dance thing.
Katie
Majorette dance thing.
Jeff
I don't know what that means.
Katie
Majorette dancing.
Commentator
I don't either.
Jeff
Okay.
Sarah
I think that's what she said.
Jeff
It was some kind of audition, musical dance audition. And she said going into the weekend, if she didn't get this one, she was going to go on a completely different career path. Oh, it was just time for her to make like this was her breaking point here. A lot of pressure. And there was another Birchill listener we have to talk to, who has been married but has been lying about it to her parents this entire time. And she was gonna tell her parents this weekend that, yeah, I'm already married, because they were all planning the wedding together and stuff.
Katie
They had eloped, and the wedding was coming up. And for some reason, I mean, her. She was saying that her family's deeply religious, and that's one of the reasons they would have a problem with it. But I guess that she and her husband didn't want to have to not live as husband and wife. They had to be very conservative and act like they couldn't sleep together and they couldn't whatever. So I don't know what it was this weekend, but for some reason, they were going to crack and go ahead and tell them, and she was afraid that that would ruin the wedding plans by doing it.
Jeff
I was going to do that in a couple of minutes, but actually, Mary's on the phone right now to talk to us about it. And this one is the line about marriage call that we took. Hey, Mary, how are you?
Mary
I'm doing okay.
Jeff
How are y' all trying to interpret exactly what might have happened this weekend based on just you saying hi?
Mary
Well, I mean, his family is. His family's good. Like, they're. They're. They're okay with it. Actually, they're. They're pretty excited. Mine, not so much. I mean, they're. They're okay that, you know, of the man that I married, obviously, because we're going to get married anyway. However, they have decided not to pay for the wedding at all and put that money towards, I don't know, whatever they've got going on right now. This was not. Because I know my parents. This was a big deal. And so. Oh, wow. But my fiance and I were. Well, husband, I guess, is what you could call him now. We're gonna have to pay for it ourselves. And obviously we're young, and I'm not really sure how this is gonna work because we do not have the money for a wedding.
Jeff
Okay.
Mary
Going to be that expensive to begin with, but still a couple thousand dollars, and we just don't have it.
Jeff
All right, we have to reset this here real quick because there's some details that I'm unclear on. So you guys, you went. You eloped, you got married, and then you were planning this sort of second wedding, and your parents were going to pay for this.
Laura
Yeah.
Jeff
And you were going to try to keep up the whole rouge that you guys weren't married. So when you told them this weekend, was it like in your living room and you're sitting down and do you say, look, I've got some big news I need to tell you about because they're thinking you're pregnant?
Mary
And they were. They were thinking. Because I told them that it wasn't necessarily really bad, but it wasn't really good either. And so they're, you know, because we are young and we're both trying to settle our careers right now and everything. And so that's what they were thinking. They were thinking that I was pregnant. But, I mean, they were both shocked. They were adjusting to it. They're okay. It's just. They just don't. They're not going to pay for our traditional wedding. And we still want that. You know, we want that celebration with everybody and our friends and family there. We still want that. But I don't really know what to do at this point because we're not going to be able to afford to really do much of anything.
Jeff
I mean, I'm curious, in a case like this, do your parents actually get more or angrier at your husband than they do you because you're the little girl that's not a little girl. But he should know better than that.
Mary
Well, I've always kind of been. I've never been. I've always, you know, mixed rays in school, done all the good stuff, you know, as far as that, I don't drink or do drugs or anything like that. But I am rebellious. I'm really, really, really independent. I moved out when I was 16, and I've lived on my own since then. So they don't really look at me as their, you know, little girl. They haven't in a long time because I did move out a long time ago. So it's about equal, really. And they've known my husband for around six years now. So they're as equally as, you know, I guess, disappointed. They just took it as they took it as it was against them that we did this and kept it a secret. And everybody else is actually pretty excited
Jeff
about it, so they took it more personally than anybody else did.
Mary
They did. Yeah.
Katie
I can understand that. I mean, I guess because I'm confused on, if you've already got a wedding planned, why go elope? But, I mean, I could see from their point of view they wanted to experience it for the first time. And it just seemed. I don't know. I don't know. I could see where they're coming from.
Jeff
You're the youngest child, aren't you?
Mary
Oh, no, I'm the oldest.
Jeff
Here's a basic question I don't think we ever asked. Hey, Sarah. Good morning.
Sarah
Hey.
Jen
I just want to know why she eloped. Anyway, if they're still wanting to plan the whole wedding.
Jeff
Yeah. Why'd you elope?
Jen
What's the point of that?
Mary
We just didn't want to wait to be married. We've. We actually got married very, very, very soon after we got engaged. Like a week and a half or two weeks. It was just kind of like a random. We're both really spontaneous. We didn't want to wait for five months or six months for our wedding to be, you know, complete. And we didn't even know if we were going to be able to plan it. We had planned it for a certain date, but then things kept getting pushed off. They kept getting pushed off. We both worked, you know, 50 to 60 hours a week. We were just like, you know, we don't even know if we're gonna be able to pull this thing off. And that was when we had the money that my parents were gonna give us. And so we're just like, you know what? We just. We want that. We want to be married. We want to be able to just have that bond. And we. We couldn't wait.
Katie
Do you mind my asking how old you guys are?
Mary
I'm 21 and he's 22.
Advertiser
Okay.
Jeff
Why does that make it better?
Mary
Well.
Katie
Well, because I wondered if.
Commentator
Because love is urgent when you're 21 and 22.
Jeff
So all you do is wait six months.
Katie
Exactly. And then I wondered if you. To go ahead and have the physical life together, and you felt more comfortable doing that, going ahead and getting married.
Mary
That as well. That played a part in it, obviously, because our family did raise us in a religious background, Religious manner. And we both, you know, we do our devotionals together. We read the Bible together. We actually have this. Not necessarily a marriage counselor, but this woman who is pretty close to his Family. And she's just incredible. She's amazing. And so we talk to her every now and then, too, just about what's going on with our lives and this whole situation that we've been going through. And she's just awesome. So we do have that. We didn't. We wanted to stay away from each other physically until we got married. And that's really difficult, especially since we've known each other for so long. It was just difficult.
Jeff
Hey, Kay, go ahead. You're part of the.
Jen
Not trying to whine or not trying to be mean about it, but they
Ashley
made the decision to elope.
Jen
She doesn't get to whine about not having the money. And that's just kind of all there is to it. You made an adult. An adult decision, so you got to
Laura
kind of go through with all the consequences.
Jen
I understand where her parents are coming from.
Jeff
Yeah. You only had to wait six months. I think that's why you're starting to see the tide start to change here a little bit.
Katie
And that's why I said she was, because I agree with Jen. Everything has to be done now, you
Commentator
know, like more urgent.
Katie
Yeah, yeah.
Jeff
That's why nobody should get married till they're 28. Mary, I appreciate you sharing your story with us.
Mary
Okay? Yeah, no problem, guys.
Katie
Good luck and congratulations.
Jeff
Yeah, good luck.
Mary
Thanks.
Jeff
Bye. Bye. This was Katie from. No, this is Ashley from Friday Show.
Ashley
My mom and I are driving down to Valdosta and I'm auditioning for a dance major. So this kind of is determining what I'm gonna do for the rest of my life. So I'm pretty nervous now.
Jeff
Why is it the rest of your life. I mean, why is it this one audition holds so much?
Ashley
If I don't get in, I'm sure. Hopefully I will. But if I don't, then I'm going to be an education major. So it just kind of determines which one I'm going to do.
Jeff
She's putting a lot of pressure on herself right there. This is it.
Katie
One audition and out.
Jeff
Yeah. Hey, Ashley.
Jen
Hey.
Mary
How are you guys?
Jeff
I'm doing good. How are you today?
Ashley
I am wonderful, actually. It turned out to be probably the best audition I've ever done.
Chris
Really?
Jen
Yeah, it was great.
Jeff
So did you get the part that you wanted or are you still waiting to find out?
Ashley
Well, that's the part I'm not looking forward to. I have to wait two weeks to find out. So a long wait. But it went really well and I had to do a solo and I wish Jeff was there because I wanted to tell him I was going to do an interpretive dance, but I didn't have time to set one. So I just thought that was funny with the ribbons and everything.
Jen
I was going to.
Katie
Well, that was my she's mine and Jeff's dance. Okay. Don't get it wrong.
Jeff
Don't rob her of that opportunity of
Katie
my ribbon on a stick.
Laura
That's right.
Mary
I'm sorry.
Jeff
Well, here's what I. Here's what I like about this whole story here. Even if. If you don't get the part, what you just told us was it was the best audition that you ever had. So as far as you're concerned, you hit it out of the park. And if you didn't get the part, at least you can say, you know what? It's a sure, clear sign that that's not what I'm meant to do.
Mary
Exactly.
Ashley
And I have no regrets from it, which is really good.
Commentator
You have what?
Ashley
I have no regrets. And I'm usually really picky on myself, you know, really critical and everything, so I was. I was. I was proud of myself, actually.
Mary
Great.
Commentator
Couldn't you also say, though, if she felt like she had the best audition of her life, that this is the path she should take regardless of whether she gets this part or not?
Jeff
Well, there's a history here, too, right, where that has led you up to finally saying, look, it's either this way or that way.
Ashley
I just. I don't know, it's. It's been a long road of a lot of different stuff for me with dance. And, you know, there's been plenty of times where I've wanted to just give it up completely, but this is really my last shot to, you know, study it fully through college and everything.
Jeff
So you gave your best, but now you have clarity that some of the best in the industry just told me it's not going to happen. So I guess you can either use that for motivation or you can use it as a sign, like, I'm just spinning my wheels here.
Interviewer
Yeah.
Commentator
I just think that some of the most successful people in the world have been told they couldn't do it for a really, really long time. You know, you'll hear that from actors and actresses.
Jeff
You know what I mean? But I think there is some. The line is different with everybody, but I think at one point you have to take a look and just go, that's just not me. It's what I want me to be, but I just don't.
Commentator
Well, I don't know.
Katie
I think that the person has to ask themselves the hard question about what they're really passionate about. Because if it's somebody that wants to do it because you get fame and fortune from it, I don't think that's your passion.
Commentator
No, no, no.
Katie
I can tell from you. Yeah, I can tell from you that dancing is your passion, you know, because if you would, if you were able to do that the rest of your life, make, you know, make a living, but still just be able to do that and pay your bills, then that's your passion, you know?
Ashley
Right. Well, for me, actually, after the audition, one of the directors came up to me, and she talked to me for about an hour, trying to convince me to come to the school. So I think there's a chance that I got it. I'm pretty confident in how I did it.
Katie
I really think that's great.
Commentator
That is so cool.
Jeff
Mimi, you're part of the Burt Show. Hi.
Mary
Hey, guys.
Sarah
I just want to say that, you
Jen
know, even if she doesn't make it, she should still have hope because she's still young.
Laura
I think she's probably about to start college or going to college.
Jen
And Michael Jordan was cut from his
Laura
shady basketball team in high school.
Jen
So, I mean, what if he would
Laura
have just let that be the end of his road?
Jeff
Yeah, there are a million stories like this.
Commentator
You have one, too.
Chris
Yeah.
Jeff
I mean, a general manager at one point told me that, look, this is not for you. You are never going to be the host of a show. This is just not where your talent lies.
Katie
Oh, really?
Jeff
You're never going to be good at this. Which I actually agree with. Just because I have a show doesn't mean I'm good at it.
Commentator
But, you know, had you listened to that and let that knock you down, you wouldn't have the show today.
Jeff
Yeah, you can either let it motivate you, or you sort of crumble from it. Look, Colonel Sanders, I think, went around the country, and he got turned down, like, 1200 times before somebody gave him some money. I think Abraham Lincoln, like, lost election after local election, and then he lost in the Senate also time and time again, and he kept going. And he's looked upon now in history as one of the best presidents ever.
Katie
And Katie and I have had this discussion, too, about we judge people who ended up being successful as being this courageous person. And then if we looked at somebody that tried and tried and always failed and never succeeded, then we look at them as foolish. So I don't know where the line is, but the thing is, I think you do have to ask yourself the question, is it really your passion? Are you just doing it to impress other people?
Jeff
Hey Ashley, will you call us back in a couple of weeks when you know for sure if you got the part or not?
Ashley
Absolutely, I definitely will.
Jeff
That'd be great. Good luck.
Ashley
Thank you so much.
Jeff
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Jeff
Hi Jeff, which line do you want
Burt
me to pick up? Chris is on the hotline and Julie's on the warm line.
Jeff
Hey, how are you guys?
Jen
No complaints Other than missing something.
Jeff
Yeah, we gotta know the history of how this all happened before we even get into where the diamond is.
Jen
This is a family heirloom. It was, I think, Chris's great grandmother's ring. It's from the 1800s, which is why I am just so upset about this because that's something that I was looking at handing down to my Kids and
Ashley
having them hand down to their children. So.
Burt
And it's not a situation where you kind of jimmied it loose in hopes of getting something a little newer and more trendy?
Jen
No, not at all.
Jeff
At that point you're just, you're jogging and it pops out.
Jen
We went for a 13 mile run.
Mary
Okay.
Jeff
I hope you've learned not to do that again. Wow.
Jen
Maybe that's a lesson to be learned from this. But we went for a 13 mile run and had it happened anywhere in the middle of run, we would have at least known the vicinity that it was in. But it wasn't until the very end of the run and we were stretching
Ashley
that Chris noticed that it was gone.
Burt
What, what happens when you notice that?
Chris
Like, it's like, it's like looking at your wife and her front tooth fell out.
Jeff
So who notices? Chris, you notice that?
Chris
Yeah. As we were stretching, I looked down and I was like, holy cow, that is not good. And I was like, Julie, you're ring. And then that point, it's like, okay, now where do we start looking? I mean, the good part about it is even though it was 13 miles, it was an out and back. And we did do a couple loops along the Collins Drive area. I sent Jeff the actual map to the area that we covered. But still, you know, it's a diamond literally in the rough, you know.
Jeff
Now you said that. I mean, there's sentimental value at this thing also. So are you on here saying, look, go ahead and take the ring. I mean, if you find it, it's yours. Are you saying we'll give you $17,000 if you find it for us?
Jen
I personally, I would love to have that diamond back.
Burt
So you would buy the ring back, you'd buy the stone back from somebody who found it.
Jen
I think I would like to do that.
Sarah
Yes.
Jen
This sounds like, because like I said, this is from the 1800s, that it's been in Kris family. And I just don't know if you can really put any value on that.
Katie
Sounds like we're not on the same page.
Laura
Yeah, Chris, exactly.
Commentator
Chris's family.
Jeff
Yeah. Chris, where are you with all that?
Chris
It's a lot of money. I mean, we got, we got the insurance check and so my first inclination was like cubic zirconium, you know, like, let's replace this thing. Let me pocket the 17 grand and then we'll just throw something that looks like a diamond in there. But obviously, you know, we're not going to do that. My brother was like, dude, Chris, pocket the money, pay off Your debt, go on vacation.
Jeff
Okay. So if you're the person lucky enough, really, to win the golden ticket out of the Wonka Bar here.
Katie
Yeah.
Jeff
You can do anything. I mean, you could keep the ring for yourself, a diamond for yourself, or you can get in touch with Jeff, and then maybe you can have some negotiations going on. But that's a decision that you can make if you find the ring. So really, what we got to do is get out what's important here. And that four mile stretch you're talking about, give us solid details on exactly where that is.
Jen
It was at the Chattahoochee River Trail off of Interstate North Parkway, and it's the trail that connects with Collins drive. It's a 3.1 mile loop. And then it attaches or connects to Collins Drive, which is about a two mile, two and a half mile stretch.
Commentator
You guys ran 13 miles, so you did that loop a couple times.
Laura
Yes.
Jen
So that's. That's the good thing.
Katie
There's already a lot of athletes along this route.
Jeff
Slow their pace down a day, I was gonna say.
Katie
So I'm curious if when people are driving up and down Columns Drive and they see like three times the amount of athletes and some that probably don't look like they've been athletic a day in their life wonder what's going on.
Jeff
You know, what would be so unjust about this whole thing? Because if you jog or you drive down that road, it's the most massive homes. If it's the road that I think it is, it's the most massive, beautiful homes that you can see in Atlanta. I call it Motivation Row. When you drive down there and you see all those houses, wouldn't it be unjust if somebody in one of those houses just happened to be taking a stroll one day and already has all that cash, finds the diamond, it's that
Katie
shiny thing in the front yard.
Jeff
All right, so let's be very clear on exactly where this is one more time, you guys.
Jen
It's Chattahoochee park right off of Interstate Parkway. There's a park on both sides of the the Chattahoochee, but it's the one that connects with Columns Drive, and that's considered Marietta. Yes.
Jeff
All right. And what Jeff has done is he's actually put a map up online right now, and it's there for you guys to check out. So if it's unclear to you exactly where it is, just go to q100atlanta.com and you'll see it right there.
Commentator
He brought up the Fact that, you know, it has been raining a whole lot too.
Jeff
So it may make it easier, May
Commentator
make it easier, may make it harder.
Jeff
Good morning. Q100.
Laura
What side of the trail were you guys running on? And on Collins Drive, we were on
Jen
both sides because we ran out down on one side and back on the other.
Laura
Okay, so that's a very large trail to be canon, both sides to look for.
Jeff
Yeah.
Jen
It's not gonna be telling me it's not gonna.
Commentator
I mean, if it was easy to find, they would have done that already.
Jeff
Good morning. Q100.
Jen
Hey, how many carats is the diamond?
Chris
Just under two carats. I mean, if you look at the diamond itself, like, you're not gonna be like, oh, my gosh, that thing's huge. It's just the cut is a cushion cut, so it's very short and very fat.
Burt
We have pictures. We have a before and after picture. And I have to tell you, God, that's so heartbreaking. The after picture, seeing the ring on her hand with the big hole in the middle is a little bit. Here, I'll pull it up.
Jeff
Is it a little.
Burt
It's a little gut wrenching.
Commentator
It's like, oh, do you wake up in the middle of the night thinking about it?
Jen
Well, I have a little tiny ring on that finger right now. And there are several times during the day that I'm just like. I panic because I'm like, oh, my gosh, where's my ring? And then I realize what happened to it. And it's like a cycle that I go through several times a day.
Jeff
Jen's looking at the picture online right now. Oh, with the ring, with the.
Burt
Just a hole in the middle of it.
Commentator
The wind just got knocked out of me.
Jeff
All right, so that's.
Commentator
That's actually what she felt.
Katie
She felt wind on her finger, and she's like, wait a second, I'm not supposed to feel that right here. What's going on?
Jeff
So that ring is still out there, and we've got a map to sort of its whereabouts. And you could see the ring, the diamond, and the diamondless ring. I mean, if you find it, you got a couple of things you can do with it. Either you could take the cash yourself, or you can get in touch with Jeff, and Jeff will get in touch with his friends, and maybe you guys can negotiate.
Katie
There are gonna be people, the people that live in those mansions that are driving out today and see all these people just stopping and looking around and looking down. What's going on?
Jeff
Because, you know, those people aren't listening to this show.
Commentator
You know what happen?
Katie
What will happen is those people will call the police on the people that are sitting there just loitering around Columns Drive today.
Jeff
But I mean, it's a classical station right now.
Burt
Yeah, seriously, if you. If it's a situation where you take your dog out for a walk every day, head over there. What do you have to lose? Take that. If you're going to spend an hour walking your dog, make 17 grand maybe.
Katie
Too bad you can't have a sniffing dog like sniff that setting.
Burt
Sniff the diamonds.
Katie
No, sniff her setting.
Burt
Yeah.
Katie
And see if they can't. If there's not the same scent on that diamond.
Jeff
Look, Melissa wants 17 grand.
Katie
That's right. That's right.
Burt
We're gonna be doing that with Katie Jo's dog.
Katie
Sniff down. She'll get distracted by a bird and run away.
Jeff
All right, you guys, thanks a lot for joining us. And with any luck at all, the person that finds it, we'll call you guys and somehow, some way, they'll negotiate and you'll get that ring back.
Ashley
All right?
Jen
Thanks for your help.
Burt
Good luck.
Jeff
This is the bird show.
Episode Date: March 30, 2026
Hosts & Cast: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy & The Bert Show Cast
Summary by Sections & Timestamps
This episode of The Bert Show features a blend of serious relationship drama, light-hearted audience rants, personal dilemmas, and community calls-to-action. Listeners are taken through a rollercoaster of emotions as the hosts help untangle a step-sibling controversy using "radio lie detector" software, field passionate pleas from Atlanta commuters, follow up with women facing major life crossroads, and launch a community-wide treasure hunt for a lost heirloom diamond. The cast remains witty, caring, and real—balancing laughter and empathy throughout.
(Starts ~01:00)
“This sound effect here is the software... picking up stress.” (01:21, Jeff)
"Those buzzers went off in some dangerous places. But it said you’re 63% honest.” (10:14, Jeff)
"If you're doing that all the time with your boyfriend, it just... comes across that you know, you're defending him more, that he means so much more to you than your boyfriend does." (11:20, Katie)
"I don't have anything to hide. So, yeah, I can give him a call." (13:52, Jen)
(Starts ~15:46)
“People in the left lane should be going faster than the people in the right lane!... I want to make signs. I want to shove them in people’s faces when I drive.” (16:11, Laura)
(Starts ~20:32)
(Starts ~21:51)
"They just took it as it was against them that we did this and kept it a secret." (25:06, Mary)
“You made an adult decision, so you got to go through with all the consequences.” (27:33, Jen)
“We just didn’t want to wait to be married… We’re both really spontaneous. We didn’t want to wait five months.” (25:38, Mary)
(Starts ~28:14)
“It turned out to be probably the best audition I’ve ever done.” (28:51, Ashley)
(Starts ~35:04)
| Segment | Start Time | |---------------------------------------------------|:----------:| | Stepbrother Lie Detector Drama | 01:00 | | Atlanta Driver Rant (Laura’s Call) | 15:46 | | Secret Marriage Dilemma (Mary’s Story) | 21:51 | | Dance Audition Crossroads (Ashley’s Story) | 28:14 | | Lost Heirloom Diamond – Treasure Hunt | 35:04 |
This episode showcases the Bert Show’s signature blend of humor, heart, and genuine community engagement. From navigating the awkwardness of familial misunderstandings with high-tech (and sometimes low-accuracy) tools, to fielding relatable rants and encouraging listeners to chase down lost dreams—and actual diamonds—the show maintains a conversational, supportive, and often laugh-out-loud tone.
Memorable takeaway: Whether you’re defending your innocence, searching for clarity, or just losing your diamond during a marathon run, The Bert Show has your back, your laugh, and possibly, your next mission.