Full Show PT 1: Monday, March 9

Summary

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The Bert Show — Full Show PT 1: Monday, March 9 (2026)

Podcast: The Bert Show
Date: March 9, 2026
Cast: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, and others
Notable Guests: Taylor Lautner (special segment)

Episode Overview

This episode dives into the aftermath of the show's "Vice Week"—a challenge where each cast member gave up a personal vice for the week. The conversation candidly explores the emotional and psychological effects of withdrawal, addiction, and self-discipline, particularly as cast members struggle with issues like sleep aids, diet pills, sugar, and cigarettes. The episode also features a lively and thoughtful interview with Twilight star Taylor Lautner, and a sobering group reaction to a controversial viral video of a man swinging a baby, examining the risks and possible fakeness of the clip.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Aftermath of "Vice Week": Withdrawal, Struggle & Self-Reflection

• Bert Quitting Lunesta (Sleep Medication):

  • Bert shares his experience going off sleep medication, describing increased anxiety and sleep disturbances as the week went on.
  • He highlights mental hurdles associated with insomnia, noting,

    "A lot of it is just in your head. It's the fear that you have that you're not going to sleep that is actually keeping you up." — Bert (00:56)

  • To avoid temptation, Bert asks a colleague to hold onto his pills. He is determined not to relapse immediately, but is honest about the struggle.

    "If they're in my house, I know I'll take them." — Bert (01:49)

• Wendy and Diet Pills:

  • Wendy opens up about her dependence on diet pills, their impact on her mood and physical health, and the challenges she faced without them during vice week.
  • She admits using them like an antidepressant, expressing vulnerability about her emotional state:

    "When I'm alone... I'm in a really down mood. So these pills, like, kind of make me in a better mood. So, yeah, sort of. They're my antidepressants." — Wendy (03:15)

  • Wendy is conflicted about whether she'll return to dieting pills, acknowledging their negative health impacts but craving the “pick-me-up” effect.

• Group Reflection on Mental Health & Dependence:

  • Bert and Melissa highlight how medication can sometimes mask deeper psychological needs:

    "The band-aid of the medication... you need to work on your head." — Bert (06:08)

  • Wendy resonates with this, especially after hearing a story from another cast member, Stacy, about painkiller addiction, drawing parallels to her own situation.

    "These pills are doing the exact same thing for me that those pain pills did for Stacy." — Wendy (06:29)

• Smoking, Sugar, and Other Vices:

  • Melissa discusses abstaining from sugar, emphasizing the self-discipline needed when faced with daily temptations in the office.

    “A lot of times with some of these vices, you have to have incredible self-discipline because you see people around you doing it… it’s up to you. The responsibility is yours.” — Melissa (10:27)

  • Jen confesses she struggled most with quitting cigarettes, barely making it through one smoke-free day.

    "I'm not. I'm not. I'm sorry." — Jen, on being unprepared and unwilling to quit (11:37)

  • The group humorously discusses their lack of readiness — “jumping on the bandwagon” — and differences in how people handle habit change.

• Addiction as Emotional Bandage:

  • Calls and listener interactions reinforce the theme of medication (or substances like sugar/cigarettes) as coping tools for underlying distress.
  • Wendy is particularly honest about her distrust of therapy and people in general, and her difficulty in confronting vulnerability:

    "I don't even trust a therapist at this point… it's just the whole trust issue." — Wendy (08:09) "It’s hard to admit as a person because I'm always trying to be a good person, be happy… but there’s a period when you go home and you’re just not happy." — Wendy (07:37)

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2. Interview: Taylor Lautner on 'Twilight' and Sudden Fame

(Segment begins at 13:53)

• Taylor Lautner Joins for a Call-in Interview:
  • The cast welcomes Taylor (Jacob Black in Twilight) and discusses the Twilight movie's explosive release.

    "This thing, this thing has the potential of being big. And I was like, really? I'd never heard of it before in my life." — Taylor Lautner (15:15)

  • Taylor confesses he had not read the books before casting and was surprised by the series’ passionate fan base.

    "There is nothing stronger or more excited than a 14 or teenage Twilight [fan]." — Taylor Lautner (16:11)

  • He shares the intensity of promotional tours, meeting enthusiastic crowds, and preparing for international spotlight.
  • Discussion includes navigating sudden fame, his supportive family (who all read the series), and advice for managing expectations (particularly regarding potential sequels).
  • Memorable exchange:

    "Who's the first person you're gonna call that you're able to call now, celebrity wise, that you weren't able to call today?" — Katie
    "Funny thing is… I hear somebody going, 'Taylor, Taylor.' I turn around and it's Jamie Foxx. 'My daughter's a huge fan. Can I get a picture?'" — Taylor Lautner (19:43)

  • Taylor gamely records a promotional drop for the show's ticket giveaway, getting teased by the cast over pronouncing “Q100.”

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3. Viral Video Debate: Man Swinging Baby

(Segment begins at 21:20)

• The Team Reacts to a Controversial Viral Video:
  • A heated group discussion analyzes a video showing a man swinging a baby in alarming ways, possibly for entertainment.
  • Varied initial reactions: disbelief, outrage, horror, and speculation on whether the video is real or faked with special effects.
  • Emotional responses:

    "Even if it's fake, it's just not funny to joke about." — Katie (25:54) "I hope that this is fake because that is sick." — Melissa (25:17)

  • Several callers weigh in, expressing disgust, concern for the child’s safety, and theorizing about the man's possible background (acrobatic family). Others consider the psychological and physical risks (joint dislocation, brain injury).
  • The conversation also touches on the impact of viral culture, responsibility in sharing/shaming, and fears about people imitating dangerous stunts.

    "There's always one idiot out there." — Katie (23:26)

  • The cast admits gendered biases in their reaction (assuming a mother wouldn’t do this), and questions why there hasn't been a visible investigation.

    "There are laws and, you know, there's police and there are defects, quote, unquote, all over the world. So I can't believe this hasn't been investigated." — Burt (29:55)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Vices & Mental Health:

  • "It's okay if you get six hours of sleep. And you're gonna be fine if you just get five hours..." — Bert (01:02)
  • "I need this pill to make me feel better. I was begging my friend to find me one..." — Wendy (02:58)
  • "The band aid of the medication, your band aid, are the speed pills that are giving you this false feeling..." — Bert (06:08)

• On Fame:

  • "There is nothing stronger or more excited than a 14 or teenage Twilight [fan]." — Taylor Lautner (16:11)

• On Parenting and the Viral Video:

  • “It could have had such disastrous... I just don’t want some dumbass to copy this video and think that this is a thing to do.” — Katie (23:07)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:01–06:39]: Vice Week Wrap-Up — Struggles with quitting sleep meds, diet pills, sugar, and cigarettes
• [13:53–21:19]: Interview with Taylor Lautner (Twilight) — Fan hysteria, fame, his family's support, and funny Jamie Foxx encounter
• [21:20–31:14]: Viral Video Discussion — Cast watches and discusses the controversial "swinging baby" video, with live reactions and calls

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Episode Tone & Style

Conversational, heartfelt, transparent, sometimes irreverent but always authentic. The cast balances humor with serious, honest dialogue about challenging personal issues and pop culture happenings.

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This episode offers a deeply relatable peek into facing personal challenges and mental health, while also engaging listeners with high-profile celebrity insights and topical debates.

Transcript

[Taylor Lautner]

The Birch show.

[Burt]

I gotta tell you, in one way, I'm glad that our vice week is over. Giving up our vices for the week is over. And in another way, it just doesn't matter because I'm not planning on going back on this Lunesta.

[Jen]

Good job, man.

[Burt]

But I can also tell you it's got progressively worse during the week, which is weird.

[Melissa]

Really?

[Burt]

Yeah. And I think it's my anxiety level. Like, I was really prepared for it on Monday, and I slept okay. I got five, six hours of sleep. Same on Tuesday. And since I haven't been taking those Lunesta pills, it has been worse and worse the rest of the week. Like, I hardly slept at all last night. Got to bed, I guess about 10:30 was a real light sleep. And right now, it's a. It's sort of a game of psychology for me. I got a couple of emails about this, and if you're. If you're not sleeping well, rather than me read the email because it'll be too long. I put the email from this Berkshire listener up on my blog that sort of spoke to me the last couple of days. When you have these sleep disorder, a lot of it is just in your head. It's the fear that you have that you're not gonna sleep that is actually keeping you up.

[Melissa]

Okay.

[Burt]

It's almost like a mini panic attack almost. And you have to sort of start calming yourself down. Like, it's okay not to get seven hours of sleep. It's okay if you get six hours of sleep. And you're gonna be fine if you just get five hours of sleep tonight. And I feel myself fighting that anxiety. I didn't in the beginning of the week, but towards the end of the week, I have. And I haven't been fighting it as well. So the last couple of days have been really tough for me, but I'm not planning on going back. In fact, Melissa, I'm gonna ask you to keep the Lunestra through the weekend.

[Katie]

Okay?

[Burt]

Because, Melissa, are you sure you're going

[Jen]

to the cat show and you want to be really rested for the cat show?

[Burt]

Well, I'll sleep right through that. If anything can give me sleep, I would be going to a cat show, international cat show. So I'm gonna ask you to hold onto those prescriptions. And if I, like, start to get sick, maybe at the end of next week, because I'm not getting enough sleep, maybe I'll figure out something else. But I don't want them this weekend because if they're in my house, I know. I'll take them.

[Katie]

I'm like the resident pharmacist right now because I've got Burt's pills in my filing cabinet, and I've also got Wendy's diet pills in my filing cabinet. So, yeah, I can make a little money going on on the side here.

[Burt]

Wendy gave up her diet pills for her vice week. It's not been going so great.

[Wendy]

It's been kind of a rough week. I don't know if it's coming off the diet. I'm. I'm sure that's what it is, but I haven't been sick for two and a half years since I've been on diet pills. And it hasn't been like, I've. I've taken diet pills starting two and a half years ago, but I've like, every. Like, I'll get off of them for two and a half weeks and go to a different diet pill. So there's been some times where I'm not on it, but pretty consistently, I've been taking diet pills pretty much every day. So this week I've been battled being sick. Like, I haven't been sick in forever. My glands have been swollen. I've night sweated. Like, you know when you get those night sweats and you're asleep and you wake up, you're burning up and you're sweating? I've had that this week. And last night I just had a breakdown. I'm like. I'm, like, looking for my pillows. Like, I need to have a pillow because I'm. I'm, like, in need of them because it gives me so much energy. It just makes me feel a whole lot better about myself. I don't know what it is, but it makes me feel a whole lot better about myself. And I guess I get down on myself, like, hard, hardcore sometimes. And I'm like, I need this pill to make me feel better. I was begging my friend to find me one because I don't have him in my house.

[Burt]

So you're almost using this pill like an antidepressant?

[Wendy]

Almost. Yeah. Well, to me, like, it makes me feel better because, I mean, I think it makes me. It'll make me thinner and increases my energy level, which always puts you in a positive mood. And I'm pretty positive person. Like, I come across positive, but, like, when I'm alone or I'm with, like, my closest friends or my mom, I'm in a really down mood. So these pills, like, kind of make me in a better mood. So, yeah, sort of. They're My antidepressants. So I was looking from all night last night. I'm so glad my friend was there because, I mean, obviously I don't have them, but I needed one last night.

[Burt]

Like, you hear the problem here, like, right, like.

[Wendy]

Oh, absolutely. I know, I know the problem.

[Burt]

So after this week, when you know the bit, the segment is done, are you planning on going back on them? Are you going to.

[Wendy]

I haven't decided. Like, I'm going to let Melissa hang on to them for right now. Cause I haven't decided.

[Katie]

I'm making a little money, I'm telling you. Start counting pills. If I need some, come to my desk.

[Wendy]

I haven't decided yet. Like, I know I should, but like, they give you that. They give you that feeling of like, I don't know, like happiness, you know what I mean?

[Burt]

It's speeding everything up. Sort of making me feel a little euphoric.

[Wendy]

Metabolism goes up. Yeah, your energy level's up. You feel great all the time.

[Katie]

There was a listener we had on yesterday that you had a reaction to that said, what was it? Her or her friend had had some digestive issues after the fact or whatever, and it made you think, well, you know what? I should be off of those. What happened between the physical side effects that could come from this and then last night?

[Wendy]

Well, I'm already seeing the physical side just because I don't feel very well. But I don't know, I think I get so down on myself sometimes, especially when I'm alone, I get so down and these pills are kind of like a pick me up. And I think that that's what these pills do. And obviously I'm seeing the problem, but I don't know, I just think that pick me up sometimes and I don't know, I think even when I drink though, it gets a little worse because then I'm even harder on myself. So I probably need to cut out both.

[Burt]

I mean, doesn't this sound like. I mean, I'm not a doctor or psychologist, but it sounds like you're a depressed person and taking the pills isn't gonna do anything. You gotta see somebody about that.

[Wendy]

No, absolutely, I agree.

[Melissa]

And I would say compounded upon getting off the diet pills, not to minimize that, but this is a strange time of year for people. Like, it gets dark earlier, it's colder out, everybody's inside more. I have a lot of friends right now that are struggling with just kind of feeling depressed or out of it or just kind of like not in touch or just kind of bummed out

[Wendy]

And I've taken more than just the diet pills. I mean, I've taken that St. John's Wort, which has been like. It's a mood lifter. I guess it's supposed to enhance your mood and make you in a good mood. I actually had to get off those pills because it was making me even more depressed. So I had to completely wipe that pill out. I threw those away a long time ago. But I think that's probably added to, like, my whole hormonal change and all that kind of stuff. So, yeah, I'm definitely going to see somebody about the whole hormone thing, because I think the pills have definitely had effect on that side of my body. So I don't know if it's me being a depressed person or if my hormones are making me that way or making me feel that way.

[Burt]

This gets into the same conversation that we had with Stacy yesterday about how the band aid of the medication, your band aid, are the speed pills that are giving you this false feeling of feeling great, but you need to work on your head.

[Wendy]

Oh, no, absolutely. And that's why I just sat here and I listened to Stacy all day yesterday, and it really hit home. I'm like, these pills are doing the exact same thing for me that those pain pills did for Stacy.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Wendy]

So I listened to her all day yesterday, and I just kind of had a breakdown last night. I was like, I don't feel very good. I'm not happy. I'm sick. So. Yeah.

[Burt]

Hey, Brandy, Go ahead. You're on the Bird show.

[Caller]

Yeah. I just wanted to comment because I'm the same exact way. Like, I take. I have to take.

[Taylor Lautner]

It's called Super Go Go Juice.

[Caller]

It's like an inner seed pill at my job at Q. And if I don't take this pill, I seriously, I'll tell my coworkers it's an antidepressant for me. It totally picks me up, and I'm fine. And my husband gets on me all the time because he was like, you gotta stop taking that because it's like a drug. It's seriously a drug.

[Jen]

It's not like a drug.

[Wendy]

It is a drug.

[Burt]

It is a drug. Right? You're obviously struggling with it. I mean, is it the struggle of, like, you're dependent on this, or is it the struggle of admitting that you might be a depressed person? You might have to get some help for that.

[Wendy]

Is it the struggle of admitting you're a depressed person? Because I can put on a great front, like, nobody has any idea, like, how I feel. When I get home.

[Burt]

You've told us before you feel really, really lonely.

[Wendy]

I mean, it's hard to admit. I don't want to cry because when he's crying again on the radio, here she goes.

[Burt]

I had a lot of tears yesterday too. We tried to match you yesterday.

[Wendy]

Yeah, no, I mean, that's hard to admit as a person because I'm always trying to be a good person, be happy all the time. But there's a period when you go home and you're just not happy. It's tough to deal with and nobody will get it. No one understands the feeling. No one understands where it's coming from. So it's really hard to explain and it's hard to admit.

[Katie]

Sometimes I think you may not know where it comes from either.

[Wendy]

You know, I don't. Like, my friend last night asked me, she's like, why do you feel this way? Where is it coming from? I'm like, you know what? Honestly, I can't give you an answer because I have no idea.

[Burt]

So I just went to bed for a while there. You were seeing a therapist. What happened to that?

[Wendy]

It's the whole fact that I don't trust a lot of people. Like, I don't even trust a therapist at this point.

[Jen]

To do what?

[Wendy]

To even talk to you. To not leak certain kind of information. And yeah, I'm putting myself out there now. I mean, everybody knows now. But no, I don't trust people with certain, like, information that they're not going to go and tell somebody else. You know what I mean?

[Burt]

You know, legally they can't do that.

[Wendy]

Right? But I mean, how do you know they're not secretly telling like their best friend? Because it's hard to keep secrets for most people. It's hard to keep that one secret. You always have your go to friend that you at least spill the beans to.

[Burt]

Something about this may be part of your depression right here is that you have, you don't have the ability to trust anybody. So that might be one of the reasons why you have to go.

[Melissa]

Therapy is really healthy. Just to be that raw and that exposed and that, I mean, ugly. You know what I mean? You just go there and you can

[Burt]

say anything you want. Like, I feel when I go in there, I'm not being judged and this is stuff that I don't tell to anybody else. And I just emotionally throw up on my therapist and I walk out of there 80% of the time feeling much better.

[Wendy]

No, I agree. It's just the whole trust issue. Like, I still, I still don't trust a therapist either. They're not supposed to tell. I still don't trust them. I mean, I trust him. I trusted an ex boyfriend who got me knocked up on like, got me onto pills and told me I was fat all the time and told me I was down all the time on myself.

[Katie]

He didn't get her knocked up. He got her knocked. No, no, no, let me clarify that. Sorry, somebody hang on to that choice of words. Yeah.

[Burt]

All right, so Wendy obviously still struggling and her struggle is going to go on next week too.

[Melissa]

Time to emotionally throw up.

[Wendy]

Yes.

[Melissa]

Like virtual said.

[Wendy]

I agree.

[Burt]

Melissa, yours has been sugar all week.

[Melissa]

Yeah.

[Katie]

And I really do appreciate when people bring breakfast that they always bring the healthiest things. Knowing that someone is trying to fight sugar. Yeah, yeah, it's been, I mean, you know, something I need to do. It's, you know, sugar's not good for you and I eat an awful lot of it. But I have not, I have not had a breakdown. Even Katie was surprised that I had not cheated and because, of course, I've told you about how my food infidelity, where I hide stuff from her. But she was surprised. I left my ice cream here at the station all week and, you know, watching everybody eat pastries this morning in front of me, did not break down and have one even though I'm starving and didn't get much sleep last night, but I did not have any pastries. And then the candy and the cakes and the, you know. So it is difficult when you know it's right in front of you. So a lot of times with some of these vices, you have to, you have to have incredible self discipline because you see people around you doing it, then you've got to. It's up to you. The responsibility is yours, not everybody else's, to help you out. You know what I mean?

[Burt]

Who was eating the cake in front of her this morning?

[Melissa]

I have a pastry right here.

[Katie]

She's right here. Jen's right here doing it as we speak.

[Burt]

Just a big old middle finger to you in it.

[Katie]

But I mean. But yeah, so it's. But yeah, so I need to not do it anymore and I'll try to stay off sugar as long as possible.

[Burt]

You should blow some smoke in her face right now because you're smoking her

[Jen]

cigarettes, taking burnt sleeping pills and taking Wendy's diabetes.

[Burt]

What are you doing?

[Jen]

Just letting them sit there.

[Burt]

How'd you do yesterday, Jen, with the cigarettes?

[Melissa]

Not so good.

[Burt]

You smoked again?

[Melissa]

Yeah.

[Burt]

You've only had one day where you didn't smoke.

[Katie]

Right.

[Melissa]

Right. Yeah.

[Burt]

Not good.

[Melissa]

I don't have the self discipline that Melissa does and I just don't. I guess it has been good because I've cut back a lot. Like probably cut it in like three fourths, but I've still been smoking.

[Burt]

Do most smokers, do they wean themselves off or do they go colter?

[Melissa]

Everybody does it different ways. I mean, you can talk to 10 people who have quit successfully and there's 10 different ways that they did it.

[Burt]

So you mentally not ready to do this? Nope, not. And you're not even apologetic about.

[Katie]

No.

[Burt]

Not ready to do it?

[Melissa]

I'm not. I'm not. I'm sorry.

[Jen]

Why not?

[Melissa]

I guess I should be. Not be sorry.

[Burt]

Like when. When. Cuz you've tried quitting before and you felt mentally you were ready then. What's the difference between this time and that time?

[Melissa]

Honestly, I don't know. I don't really know.

[Jen]

Look, why aren't you ready? Why are you almost defiant right now? Is it because it's a radio bit or.

[Melissa]

I guess I wasn't really. It wasn't. I wasn't really ready in my head or like mentally prepared for it before these five days came up. And when all of us just kind of jumping on the bandwagon saying like, we'll give up our vices together, I was kind of like, okay, I should do that. But in my mind it wasn't like really my decision, but.

[Burt]

And it's gotta be all right. And Jeff, you gave in yesterday also.

[Jen]

Yeah. Mine was just stupid.

[Melissa]

I agree with you. I think yours wasn't really a vice.

[Jen]

No, it's.

[Melissa]

I think it's just a necessity to function in business.

[Wendy]

It absolutely is.

[Melissa]

Yeah.

[Jen]

And I've got too much going on to not have it.

[Burt]

I agree. I didn't like your advice either. I felt like the show was really vulnerable. If he didn't have his BlackBerry on him, I know.

[Melissa]

I couldn't pick it up. And BlackBerry text you.

[Wendy]

Yeah.

[Jen]

And there's just so much wasted times. Like, I mean, I. Wednesday was. Wednesday is what pushed me over the edge because I had to go meet with someone and he had to do a bunch of work while I just kind of waited for him. I had nothing to do. Nothing.

[Melissa]

That's annoying.

[Wendy]

So.

[Jen]

Yeah. So screw it.

[Melissa]

Especially the way that we use our BlackBerry as our to do list. I know.

[Katie]

And our calendar.

[Jen]

Yeah.

[Wendy]

And our address book.

[Taylor Lautner]

I know.

[Melissa]

I don't know how you function.

[Taylor Lautner]

I'm well aware. The Burch show,

[Burt]

Jack Harndale was Helping his daughter Emily lift an awkward dresser up a staircase when he slipped and fell backwards. A week later, Emily asked him how he was.

[Wendy]

I'm good.

[Burt]

Truth was, he wasn't good. Jack needed help. Then the darndest thing happened. Emily called Pacific Source my health plan. Jack learned that Pacific Source provides members with support beyond health care. In Jack's case, we got him in touch with the local food bank.

[Wendy]

You guys do that?

[Burt]

Yes, we do, Jack. Pacific Source health plan. I have considered radioactive spiders and kryptonite. It's all superhero stuff, right?

[Taylor Lautner]

What if I'm not the. I want to find the bad guy.

[Burt]

It's nuts. I mean, the hysteria behind this movie. This weekend, 2,000 movie theaters around the country are showing twilight at midnight. 600 of them are sold out already.

[Melissa]

And that was the overnight numbers. I'm sure it's more by now.

[Burt]

People have been calling all morning for these tickets. First thing they called for this morning at 5:30. And they've been calling all morning long.

[Katie]

Yeah, Whenever the first book came out, that's how many years it's been that people have anticipated this movie. So they are ready to go.

[Burt]

They read the first chapter right here, man. Taylor Lauder is playing Jacob Black in the movie. And he knows what we're just now finding out that this is nuts, right? That these people are crazy about this movie. Hey, good morning, Taylor.

[Taylor Lautner]

Hey, how you guys doing?

[Burt]

Good, man. How are you?

[Taylor Lautner]

Oh, wonderful.

[Katie]

Congratulations on getting the role.

[Taylor Lautner]

Oh, thank you so much. It's. It's hard to believe.

[Burt]

I'm assuming that you knew what you were getting into before you got cast for this part.

[Taylor Lautner]

Definitely not. Had you read the book after I got cast is when I found out the popularity of the book series. But still, I had no idea it was going to be like this. So it's mind blowing and I'm just so excited to be a part of it.

[Burt]

So Jen just asked, you didn't read any of the books? You had no knowledge of this thing at all?

[Taylor Lautner]

Absolutely not. No, I hadn't read any of the books. I hadn't even heard of the series. But I remember my agent telling me, you know, this thing, this thing has the potential of being big. And I was like, really? I've never heard of it before in my life. And yeah, as soon as I was cast is when I read the first book and I was like, wow, this is a great story. This could be cool.

[Wendy]

So are you sort of blown away with all the hysteria now?

[Taylor Lautner]

Yeah, definitely. I mean, I had no idea. I mean, I Just did a sick city tour and now I'm in New York. And the premiere was insane. And I mean, we had like 3,000 fans at each city we were in jam packed in a mall and it was just unbelievable.

[Burt]

Yeah. And this isn't like 3,000 fans at a Harry Connick Jr concert, you know, that are gonna sit there and be chilling. We're talking about crazy, hysterical. Cause there's no dabbling. There's no dabbling in Twilight.

[Taylor Lautner]

Oh, no. There is nothing stronger or more excited than a 14 or teenage Twilight.

[Katie]

Now, I know that, Taylor, that there's been some previews and like you said, you've gone to places and the fans have showed up. Is there anything that you're able to do today that you want to get done before tomorrow's big premiere nationwide? Because of course your life is going to completely change forever tomorrow.

[Jen]

Just sit by yourself in the food

[Taylor Lautner]

court of a mall. Well, if I had the time to do that, then maybe I would. But the past two weeks and the next two weeks have been the busiest time of my life. And it's a. It's a wonderful busy. So I'm keeping busy. Gonna be on the Tyra Banks show tonight. So I'm really excited.

[Burt]

Do you have any fear at all that now? Because this career of yours is gonna be propelled and you're gonna be so in the spotlight now. You're a target for paparazzi. You can't go anywhere because of cameras. I mean, this is gonna be your life, I think Saturday Morning.

[Taylor Lautner]

Really? You put that in a scary way, man. Well, we'll see. I mean, I never really thought about it like that, but that definitely would be scary.

[Melissa]

What does your family think about all of this? I mean, you've been this, you know, this actor and striving and trying to make it out in Hollywood and your parents have, you know, been encouraging you all along the way and everything. But now this is your big break. What do they think about it?

[Taylor Lautner]

We're all very excited. I mean, my whole family moved from Michigan to California for this, for me to pursue my dream. And now it's coming true and it's absolutely amazing. And the funny thing is with Twilight, all my family in Minnesota, Michigan, Florida, everywhere. All of my family members have read Twilight now, the whole series.

[Burt]

Sure.

[Jen]

They want something to talk to you about when they call up to borrow money.

[Taylor Lautner]

Oh, boy.

[Burt]

Angel has a question for you. Hey, Angel. Hello.

[Caller]

I'm so excited. I have a question. What do you think it's going to be like if y' all make more movies to play the kind of character that you turn into. Have you, like, read all the books and everything?

[Taylor Lautner]

Absolutely. I've definitely read them. I'm very excited. But I'm trying to manage my expectations because no sequels are confirmed. We're waiting to see how Twilight does. So I'm telling all the fans, including you see a minimum of three times. But no, I definitely love Jacob's werewolf side. So that would be very cool to bring to life.

[Burt]

I'm really curious because you said you started reading the books after you got the. The part. Did you read the book differently? Like, were you uber focused on this Jacob Black? Like, you're reading it like, this is gonna be me.

[Taylor Lautner]

Yeah, I know. It's weird to picture yourself. Yeah. Originally I just started reading the book because, I mean, I'm gonna be in it. I better be familiar with it. And then you just become attached. And I mean, they say it's a page turner, but it truly is. You can't stop it. I'm not a big book reader, but this thing is amazing.

[Katie]

Now, Taylor, I know, I mean, you've done other projects. You've been Shark Boy and you've done other things, but this will definitely, I mean, by far, gonna be your biggest role and have a bigger fandom base. So who, after this weekend, when you become the superstar, who's the first person you're gonna call that you're able to call now, celebrity wise, that you weren't able to call today,

[Taylor Lautner]

like, first? Really? I don't know. I mean, a funny thing is, at the Twilight premiere, when I was done watching the movie, I was signing autographs and stuff and couldn't really get out of the theater. And I hear a name. I hear somebody going, taylor, Taylor. I turn around and think it's a fan and I see Jamie Foxx. Jamie Foxx. My daughter's a huge fan. Can I get a picture? And I was like, are you kidding me? Can I get a picture with you?

[Wendy]

It was great.

[Taylor Lautner]

So hard to believe. I thought I was dreaming.

[Burt]

Hey, Taylor, we know you got a whole bunch of these things to do, but can you do one favor for me before you take off? Of course, because we're gonna be giving tickets away all morning this morning and then tomorrow morning also. Can you just say, this is Taylor Lauder, Jacob Black in Twilight. Call now for Twilight tickets. Yeah, can you do that?

[Taylor Lautner]

All right, go for it. Hey, what's up? It's Taylor Lautner playing Jacob Black in Twilight. Call right now to get Twilight tickets.

[Burt]

Beautiful. I'm gonna use that like 19 times.

[Jen]

And we just say on Q100.

[Taylor Lautner]

On T100.

[Burt]

Beautiful.

[Jen]

Q100.

[Taylor Lautner]

Q100.

[Jen]

Q100.

[Taylor Lautner]

Okay, so I'll do the whole thing again. Call right now.

[Burt]

Don't miss it.

[Jen]

Go ahead.

[Taylor Lautner]

Right now to get Twilight tickets on 2 100.

[Jen]

Q100. Like Queen.

[Taylor Lautner]

Like what?

[Jen]

Q like Queen. 2 100.

[Taylor Lautner]

2 100.

[Burt]

Why are you jacking with our guests? Get out of here. Hey Taylor, thanks a lot. I really appreciate it.

[Taylor Lautner]

Okay, thanks.

[Burt]

I see you now. Bye bye. The bird show. All right, on to this video. We're going to have Wendy and Jen watch this in just a second. This are just parts of some of the emails that I got over the weekend and there were 20,000 people that checked it out. The worst parent video on your website is the most appalling video I've ever seen. Scares me to death that some dumbass would find this funny and copy this life threatening act. That's the thing I was thinking too the first time I saw it, like I don't know much about like shaken baby syndrome, but in a case like this, you would think if this is real that that baby couldn't be healthy after this. But there's a baby smiling.

[Katie]

Yeah, Katie and I and I had thought I had not seen this, but ends up that Katie and I did see this because I wasn't aware that was the same video that we were talking about. And first reaction we had is this can't be real. And then the second reaction we had is just dread of what we were about to see, you know, like, because as the video progresses, it just, you know, it's lasting and lasting. You're thinking, oh my God. And the same thought is, how can that baby endure this? Because it is. It was so irresponsible on this guy's part to even attempt to do this. Whether the baby was smiling or not. It's fun for a second. But it could have had such disastrous.

[Burt]

Now we still don't know the story of this guy. We don't know if he was a babysitter, if he was an uncle, if he was a father. We don't know even where the video originates. This email says the video of the man tossing around the baby looks completely fake to me. After I got this email and I got a couple others, I started looking at it a little bit closer and I must have watched it a dozen times over the weekend. And I think it's a fake also. How if you watch it really closely.

[Jen]

Well, let's let them watch it first and then we can analyze it because then I can bring it up and pause it and all that stuff.

[Burt]

Go ahead, Wayne.

[Katie]

What concerns me is even if it's a fake and everybody's talking about it, I just don't want some and dumbass to copy this video and think that this is a thing to do. Most people, common sense will tell you absolutely not. And based on Wendy and Jen's reaction here soon, you know it's not the right thing to do. But there's always one idiot out there.

[Burt]

Just to let you guys know. The video is of one guy in front of a camera and he's playing some music and he takes a baby which looks to be eight to 10 months.

[Jen]

Here, let me start it first so they can see, so they can be surprised.

[Burt]

I can't get your computer up in here, can I?

[Katie]

I don't think so.

[Burt]

Just playing. Uh huh. And he starts playing this music. And then he has an 8 to 10 month baby that crawls right over to him. Must be the father. Baby crawls over to him. The father picks up the baby.

[Melissa]

Oh my God.

[Burt]

And just starts swinging him around to the music as though like this is some circus act.

[Melissa]

Oh no. Oh no.

[Burt]

And it gets progressively worse as the video goes on. I mean we're not just talking about a little toss to the left and toss to the right. We're talking about taking the baby by one arm and swinging him all the way around in a clockwork motion.

[Melissa]

Oh no. Oh no.

[Burt]

One arm and the baby's just kind of like dangling there as the father is tossing it around all over the place. It doesn't look physically possible to me.

[Katie]

Well, I mean, yeah, it's just so ridiculous.

[Wendy]

Oh my God.

[Melissa]

He just keeps going with it.

[Burt]

And it gets worse.

[Jen]

There's like three. 45.

[Melissa]

Ew. Oh my God.

[Wendy]

No.

[Melissa]

Oh my God.

[Katie]

Turn away. Beck.

[Melissa]

I. I hope that this is fake because that is sick. What's your theory on the baby or anything?

[Burt]

You guys look at it really, really closely. You know how sometimes when you're watching the weather there'll be like a little bit of an outline, like the weather on tv. I mean, where you're watching the news

[Katie]

and there's like a little glow around.

[Burt]

A little glow, like right around. Yeah, his head and his shoulders where you could sort of tell that. Yeah, they're in front of the green screen. If you look really closely at that, it looks like that might be around the baby. And they have just synced it up via computer to make it look like he's swinging the baby, but he's really not.

[Katie]

He's swinging something else. I hope so, because this is. Oh, it's awful, but it's not funny. Like, the thing is, even. I mean, hope it's fake, but even being fake, it's just not funny to joke about.

[Burt]

Hey, Brandon.

[Caller]

Go ahead, Bert.

[Taylor Lautner]

Oh, my God. I have never seen somebody throw a child by one arm up.

[Caller]

And do you know how easy it would be to dislocate that baby's arm or him slip out your hand and

[Taylor Lautner]

go through the wall and, you know.

[Katie]

Yeah, I'm shocked. I think that's what Katie and I thought is we're shocked that didn't happen to this baby. And that's why it may be fake, because I don't see how baby could endure what he did.

[Burt]

And there's nowhere online that has any kind of investigation at all going on. Hey, Olga.

[Caller]

Hey, Bert. Just wanted to say hi and love your show. I want to tell you guys that in the background, the music he's actually throwing this baby around to is Russian.

[Burt]

It's a Russian.

[Caller]

So I'm thinking maybe he's in Russia. And probably most likely.

[Burt]

What would you guys see the flip. Oh, it almost looks as though, like, if it's real, this baby comes from, like, a family of acrobats in a circus, and they're, like, sort of training him early, but for what he'll be doing as an adult.

[Katie]

But it's not just the joint thing. It's like his joints or her joint. We're not sure what. I'm not sure what gender the baby is and that, but the brain, you know, because they're just. It's just so disturbing.

[Wendy]

There it is.

[Melissa]

That is messed up.

[Burt]

Isn't that disturbing?

[Katie]

Don't you think?

[Burt]

It can't be real, though. Like, no baby could see.

[Melissa]

There are parts of it. Yeah, there are parts of it that don't seem real. Like, where.

[Burt]

I don't. Like, I have. I really watched it a lot. Like, when he's got it in front of the tv, there's just an angle there that just doesn't look natural. Doesn't look natural. Hey, Jim, you're on Q100.

[Caller]

Hey, guys.

[Taylor Lautner]

I'm telling you, I don't. I don't think it's fake. I saw the video and I saw it and on a different. On a television station. And after they saw it, that doctor talked about the damage that could have happened to the baby.

[Caller]

I don't think it's fake.

[Taylor Lautner]

That baby crawled right over to that man.

[Burt]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lautner]

And I think he's been swinging that baby around like that for a long, long time. That wasn't just a one time. Pick that baby up and do that to that baby. Swinging that baby around since it was a baby baby. I mean, I'm telling you. And that child loved it. But that was very, very, very.

[Jen]

Of course the child loves it. But by the time the child gets into sixth grade and care six years old and can't pick up a crayon because its shoulders destroyed.

[Burt]

Were you watching it again, Melissa?

[Katie]

Yeah, I. Wendy had it over here next. I hadn't seen it in since last week and had my hands over my mouth because it just. It hurt. It just hurts me. It hurts me, and it makes me angry at him. Katie and I were just, you know, Katie and I. And I'll admit it, I told this to Burt off ear last week. I said, Katie and I made a sexist remark when we saw it, because we were like, if this is the dad, you know, we're like, the mother would never have done this.

[Melissa]

Oh, God, it's so disturbing.

[Katie]

Which is a sexist comment, you know, because there's plenty of abusive mothers, too. So. But that was our first reaction.

[Burt]

Hey, Jennifer, you're on Q100.

[Caller]

Hey, Burt Show.

[Wendy]

Love, y'.

[Melissa]

All.

[Caller]

I listen to you every morning.

[Burt]

Thank you.

[Caller]

I watched a video, and in the beginning, I had to watch it a couple times. I was like, okay, this is not so bad. But then when I watched it like this. Well, not so bad, but in the beginning, when he was first swinging, because I know my parents used to throw me up like that, but by the armpits, it wasn't like, by the hands, you know. And the more I watched it, I was like, this is ridiculous. Like the previous caller, that baby knew exactly what was going to happen because he crawled over there like he was expecting it. And I just felt really, really bad. The more it progressed, I'm like, this is not normal. But at the same time, with the music that's playing in the background, you can see where the baby has his mouth open and you can't tell whether he's laughing or crying. At the end, he's, like, laughing, but there's some parts where it looks like he's actually with his mouth open and crying.

[Burt]

So even if it's not this country, I mean, there are other. There are laws and, you know, there's police and there are defects, quote, unquote, all over the world. So I can't believe this hasn't been investigated. Hey, Christy. Good Morning. You're on Q100?

[Caller]

Yeah, I was calling about the Swinging Baby.

[Wendy]

I am.

[Caller]

I've actually heard that they were a family of acrobats.

[Melissa]

How'd you hear that?

[Taylor Lautner]

Well, this.

[Caller]

This guy who showed it to me, he told me that they found out that they were a family of acrobats. So I don't know if there's just something that they know what they're doing. I mean, I'm not defending it at all.

[Wendy]

I don't know.

[Caller]

Or maybe just. He just needs some education. That very well could have been the mom videotaping it.

[Burt]

It looks like the camera is still, though. Like, it doesn't look like there's anybody in the room with him.

[Melissa]

It does look like the camera is set up on a tripod or something.

[Burt]

He's gonna choose to believe it's fake because I don't know how any father could think that that was okay with

[Katie]

his kid and then tape it.

[Jen]

I can't find anything on that. Although the. The original, I guess, hosting site or wherever the video is says up there, if anyone knows who this person is, please contact us so we can contact the authorities. So they're still looking.

[Burt]

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