Full Show PT 1: Thursday, April 2 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show – Full Show PT 1: Thursday, April 2 [Vault]

Date: April 2, 2026
Hosts: Bert, Jan, Wendy, Jeff, and The Bert Show Cast
Guests: Makai Pfeiffer (actor), multiple anonymous/listener callers

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Bert Show delivers their signature mix of real-life listener drama, hilarious banter, and celebrity conversation. The central theme is relationships—romantic mishaps, confrontations, and awkward moments—with a healthy dose of advice and candid discussion from both show hosts and callers. Notable segments include a failed group date ‘set up,’ a revealing interview with actor Makai Pfeiffer, stories of being stood up, and a tense college graduation dilemma revolving around secrets and honesty.

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Key Segments and Discussion Points

1. Listener Drama: The Botched Group Date Set-Up

[01:17 - 07:19]

• Scenario:
  Lori, a listener, recounts her experience being set up on a pseudo-date. Her friend orchestrated an "accidental" one-on-one meeting with her crush by arranging a group hangout, only for everyone else to cancel last minute.

• Events:

  • The set-up works as planned: Lori and her crush are the only ones to show up.
  • The guy quickly figures out everyone else isn’t coming, then says, “My brother-in-law’s in town and I’m going over to the Cheetah tonight; have a good night,” pays for his drink, and leaves.
  • Lori expresses disappointment and labels the guy a jerk, primarily because she feels rejected.

• Hosts’ Analysis:

  • The cast debates whether Lori’s set-up was fair or manipulative.
  • Callers ring in suggesting the guy likely figured out the ruse or was warned by his friends.
  • The hosts point out the clarity Lori received: “He showed you that he wasn’t as interested in you as you are in him. So you got to move on, right?” – Wendy [04:17]

• Memorable Moments:

  • “Don’t ask. What a jerk. Like, who goes...First of all, like, leaves a girl sitting on the patio. Second of all, like the Cheetah. Oh my God.” – Lori [03:27]
  • “You think he’s a jerk because he rejected you. That’s why. Not because the Cheetah.” – Wendy [06:32]

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2. Celebrity Interview: Makai Pfeiffer

[08:38 - 15:27]

• Discussion Topics:

  • Pfeiffer’s decision to leave ER and worries about career longevity.
  • Experience filming 8 Mile with Eminem; expresses confidence in Eminem’s staying power: “When he wasn’t here...his presence was definitely missed.” – Makai Pfeiffer [11:27]
  • The potential pitfalls of being typecast and balancing television/film careers.
  • His evolving interest in producing and directing, while still loving acting.
  • Anecdotes about being pranked by Ashton Kutcher on Punk’d.
  • Participation in Lie to Me and the excitement of joining a show from the ground up.

• Notable Quotes:

  • “[Acting] is the business that we’ve chosen...It is very unorthodox, and you don’t know what’s coming up next. But that’s the nature of the beast.” – Makai Pfeiffer [10:06]
  • “You just want to keep it fresh, you know what I mean?” – Makai Pfeiffer [10:38]
  • “We definitely had a good time and we hit it off. We had a hell of a lot of fun.” (on working with Eminem) – Makai Pfeiffer [12:28]

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3. More Listener Stories: Ghosted and Stood Up

[15:28 - 24:27]

• Melanie’s Stand-Up Story:

  • Melanie went on a date after clarifying mistaken identity (the guy thought she was someone else from her friend group—but still agreed to meet).
  • He never shows up at the restaurant and never texts her back.

• Hosts React:

  • The team sympathizes deeply, sharing their own being-stood-up stories and lamenting the rudeness of no-calls/no-shows.
  • Bert’s infamous “30-minute rule”: “If you don’t hear anything in 30 minutes, then just go about your night.” – Bert [20:24]

• Callers weigh in:

  • Suggest everything from the guy being a coward to it possibly being a prank by his friends.
  • Ultimately, everyone's in agreement: “There is zero excuse for not just sending a text...He’s a big old boosh [jerk], and you’re better off.” – Bert [24:21]

• Memorable Moments:

  • “It’s worse in a restaurant or a bar...You’re faking the ‘look at the door’” – Bert [24:50]
  • “He may not remember what you look like.” – Jeff [21:53]

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4. Graduation Weekend Dilemma

[25:08 - 34:41]

• Story:

  • Holly, on voice disguiser, shares that her roommate has been pretending to be in school for three semesters. Their families are friends and will attend graduation expecting both girls to graduate.
  • Holly has known the truth for a year and a half but isn’t sure if, or how, to reveal it to anyone.

• Debate:

  • Jan and others say Holly has an obligation to tell her parents, since her own family will be pulled into the ruse.
  • Callers share similar stories—turns out, "fake graduation" scams are not unheard of!
  • Emotional dynamics emerge: Is Holly seeking justice, or is she primarily angry about her own graduation being overshadowed by her roommate’s lie?
  • Bert calls out her motives: “Do you want to ruin this weekend for her because you’re angry...or do you really want to tell your parents just because you’re trying to cover your own butt? But it sure sounds like you’re angry and you want to bust her just for the sake of busting her.” – Bert [34:02]

• Notable Quotes:

  • “She’s not...So really, I mean, I’m...you know.” – Holly [31:48] (demonstrates discomfort)
  • “Cause she’s angry.” – Bert [33:22]
  • “Let’s get a picture with our diplomas.” – Jeff [35:00] (on the awkwardness to come)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On rejection and awkwardness:

  • “She has a crush on him. That’s why she cares.” – Wendy [04:03]

• On honesty in relationships:

  • “It’s incredibly inappropriate what she did. I mean, they’ve been hanging out for a year. This guy would have asked her out already.” – Mary, caller [07:27]

• On being stood up:

  • “There is nothing lonelier than sitting there on the couch watching TV, because seconds feel like minutes, minutes feel like hours.” – Bert [24:28]

• On faking graduation:

  • “Is she just going to sneak in and stand with [everyone] or whatever?” – Jan [28:22]
  • “She’s going to be like, ‘Look, here’s my diploma. Let me see yours.’” – Jeff [34:55]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:17] – Lori’s group date set-up story
• [08:38] – Makai Pfeiffer interview starts
• [15:28] – Melanie’s stand-up story
• [25:08] – Holly’s graduation dilemma

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Episode Tone & Style

Lively, authentic, sometimes irreverent, and always empathetic, The Bert Show cast mixes personal anecdotes, playful teasing, and thoughtful advice, balancing humor and real talk in listener calls and celebrity interviews alike.

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Takeaways

• The trials and pitfalls of modern dating—miscommunications, set-ups, and being stood up—are universal, but having support (and humor) helps.
• Even high-stakes personal secrets, like faking college graduation, are more common than you’d think.
• Honesty, closure, and self-respect are recurring themes in both relationship and life dilemmas.
• Star interviews lend a celebrity lens to big-life decision making, underscoring that even stars like Makai Pfeiffer face tough crossroads and second-guessing.

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This episode is a must-listen for fans of real-life drama, relationship talk, and those who love hearing both the worst and best of the morning show family and its listeners.

Transcript

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[Bert]

from Friday show telling us about her first date that she had lined up

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

hanging out with this group of friends. There's been this guy hanging out for like, I guess about a year and ever since I've had a. A total crush on him. So one of my girlfriends was like, listen, if you're not gonna make the move, I'm just gonna set you up. Basically, she's invited us all to hang out on a patio this weekend. What she decided to do was have everybody cancel except for me and this guy and then I'm supposed to make something happen.

[Bert]

We were nervous about this one going in. Just too many people.

[Jan]

Yeah. Too many people involved. Like if you ever throw in a surprise party, you have to tell us you people as possible. So once everybody knows, and that's kind of what this was, it's a surprise for him.

[Wendy]

And there's. You had to get his guy friends to bail without telling him they're bailing.

[Jan]

Right.

[Bert]

And then if they are bailing. Yeah. Someone's gonna say why eventually, you know the reason why we took off, man.

[Wendy]

Yeah.

[Bert]

Lori wants to hook up with you. Did you get some. Here's Lori back on the voice disguiser. Hey, Lori.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Hello.

[Bert]

Hi.

[Wendy]

Hi.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Hi. How you doing?

[Bert]

Good, good. We gave this one about a 15 chance of working going into the weekend.

[Wendy]

Too many obstacles.

[Bert]

Oh, no, it worked.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Well, yeah, I mean, everyone. I mean, it worked as planned. Like, we showed up, just us too. And we were like, I wonder where everybody is.

[Bert]

So you're sitting there and he's sitting there and nobody else is there. And then you start. You put the face on.

[Caller / Listener]

Yeah.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

I was like, oh, I wonder, you know, where everybody could be. And he starts texting and I start texting. He's like, you know, he looks up and he's like, oh, you know, everybody canceled. And I was like, oh, you know, you know, oh, no, what are we gonna do? And he just stops for a minute and he goes, you know, I don't know about you, but my brother in law's in town and I'm going, him and I are going over the Cheetah tonight, so have a good night. Like, pays for his drink, gets up and leaves.

[Caller / Listener]

Oh, no.

[Jan]

So apparently the feelings are not mutual.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

And he, you know, I'm like, don't ask. What a jerk. Like, who goes? First of all, like, leaves a girl sitting on the patio. Second of all, like the Cheetah. Oh my God. Well, he just seen this guy.

[Bert]

He either just sees you as a friend or a periphery friend even.

[Jan]

Yeah, you're a friend. You're hanging out. And then he's like, oh, cool, everybody bailed. So he's like, he's probably figures why you want to hang out with him. Why does he want to hang out with you? Bye. Bye. And you can't judge him for going to the Cheetah. Like, he's not your boyfriend right now, so you can't be like, oh, what a jerk. He left me for the Cheetah. Who cares?

[Wendy]

She has a crush on him. That's why she cares.

[Bert]

Say that one more time.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

I don't want him to be my boyfriend anyway. Now why?

[Bert]

Because he went to the Cheetah?

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Yeah. I don't know. I mean, he seems like a jerk

[Bert]

now just because he'd be alone.

[Wendy]

He didn't want to hang out. She's trying to save face. So he showed you that he wasn't as interested in you as you are in him. So you got to move on, right?

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Jeff]

But I guess the silver lining is you didn't like, have to save face or embarrass yourself afterwards by asking him out or whatever. It was kind of like a perchance situation. Helped you figure out the answer without being embarrassed by it because he doesn't know that that was planned.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

I guess it was a good test.

[Bert]

I mean, if he was interested in you, you guys were running in the same group anyway. You'd have known that by now.

[Jan]

You can't test a guy you don't know. Like, you can't. I mean, it's not. You can't.

[Jeff]

Oh, we're always testing you, Jeff. That's just what women do.

[Bert]

What do you mean by that? Is that a test? Is that a test by you telling us that you always test this? Is that a test?

[Wendy]

It is.

[Bert]

Hey, Susan. Good morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller / Listener]

Good morning. How are you guys?

[Bert]

Good. How are you?

[Caller / Listener]

Good. Yeah. That is totally not fair. You cannot call that guy a jerk when you tricked him into going on a date with you.

[Jan]

And he's gonna find out, too. He's totally gonna find out.

[Caller / Listener]

No, I think his friends already told him. That's probably why he said he was going to the Cheetah Club. His friend probably text him?

[Bert]

No.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Oh.

[Jeff]

Oh, because they were texting dirt. Oh, because he was texting to say, like, plans are canceled so that you. One of his guy friends sent him

[Wendy]

a text that she set it up regardless if he was interested in her, that none of that would have mattered. You know, I don't fault her at all for setting this up to see if he liked her without, like, Jen said, having to ask him out. So, I mean, it just. She got the answer she wanted.

[Bert]

Yeah, he's just.

[Jeff]

She got an answer. One she wanted. Yeah.

[Bert]

So you're. You're not planning on pursuing this guy anymore? You guys. So here's the tough part. Now is, like, now how do you guys start hanging out again just as platonic friends, when now you think he's a jerk?

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

I don't know. I mean, what if he did get a text that said, like, you know, she's trying to date you, like, stay away or something? I don't know.

[Bert]

It's inconsequently weird.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

You know, make it weird.

[Wendy]

It doesn't. It doesn't matter. I mean, it doesn't matter because you didn't do anything definitive, and now, you know he's not interested in you. So I think it's much easier to be able to stay in the friend group and not have any awkwardness than it would have been if she asked him out.

[Bert]

Maybe.

[Wendy]

Yeah.

[Bert]

Either way, it's.

[Wendy]

You think he's a jerk because he rejected you. That's why. Not because the Cheetah Would you have

[Jeff]

a problem if anybody you dated went to his trip club?

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

I mean, they're not dating. If I knew that they like, cared about me. And, you know, it's just with the guys and it was just like, for work or for, you know, something funny, I'd be okay with it.

[Jeff]

So it's not a deal breaker for you if he was interested in you?

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

I guess not.

[Jan]

We're not even having an affair.

[Jeff]

No, but it is, because she's saying that he's a jerk. I was trying to figure out, is he a jerk because he doesn't like her, or is he a jerk because he went to the strip club because

[Wendy]

he doesn't like her.

[Jeff]

And she's saying that if it was a guy she liked and he went to the strip club, that's okay. So it's not the strip club. It's the fact that he doesn't like her.

[Bert]

Yeah. Okay. I don't think there's anything else there. Hey, Mary. Good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller / Listener]

Yeah, I think that it's. It's incredibly inappropriate what she did. I mean, they've been hanging out for a year. This guy would have asked her out already. He. I mean, this. This is like. I absolutely falter. I. If I were a guy and I were interested in a girl, I would have made a move already.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

This.

[Caller / Listener]

This would have happened before.

[Wendy]

Well, I mean, you assume all guys are gonna make moves on all girls they're interested in. We've also heard guys talk about how they stay friends with girls until that moment where. Yeah. So I really don't fault her for doing what she did. She was just testing the waters.

[Bert]

We could wait years. Years and years and years.

[Wendy]

I mean, which is worse. Yeah. A guy that is, you know, claiming to be your friend, and all he's doing is waiting till you get drunk enough for him to sleep with you. I mean, rice, testing the waters all the time.

[Bert]

All right, Brittany. At least you have closure. He's not interested in you.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

I got it.

[Jan]

Yeah.

[Bert]

All right. Gloria.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Me.

[Bert]

I said Brittany. But that's the next caller that was

[Wendy]

lined up, and it's not our fault, so she's mad at us, too.

[Bert]

I know, I know. She sort of have an attitude about it this morning.

[Jeff]

I got it. I got it, Bert. I got it.

[Bert]

We understand.

[Jan]

Sorry, we gotta let you go, Laurie. We're all going to the Cheetah. The Burt Show.

[Bert]

Hello. Hello, Makai.

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Hey. How you doing?

[Bert]

Good. How are you today?

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Good, man.

[Bert]

Thanks a lot for taking the time to join us.

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Oh, man. It's a pleasure.

[Bert]

Let me go right around the room. And this is going to take a while because we have 19 people on the show. I'm Bert and this is Jan. Hello.

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Hey, how you doing?

[Caller / Listener]

Good.

[Bert]

And this is Wendy here.

[Jeff]

Hi.

[Bert]

And this is. And Melissa.

[Wendy]

Hey, Makai, how you doing? Good.

[Bert]

And Brittany's not part of the show, but she thinks you're hot, so she. Well, man, before we go forward, we got to go backwards a little bit and talk ER here for a second.

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Yes.

[Bert]

I'm really curious. I guess it's in 2008 that the producers slash writers of NBC decide, okay, we're probably done with your character here. Was that. Was that a contractual thing, or is that something they tell you about beforehand and.

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Actually, yeah, I actually had a lot to do with that. I. It was. It was kind of a thing where I felt like it was time to go, you know, done the character for a long time, and, you know, it was just time to go. So it wasn't like a thing where they were going, okay, well, we're tired of Dr. Pratt. They actually stay. I just wanted. I just felt like it was time

[Bert]

to go, you know, how that must have been a very difficult decision to make, cuz, I mean, from what we've heard as actors, I mean, you're always a little bit insecure that you're not gonna get, like, a really meaty, juicy part to continue to play. And here you have one on one of the greatest shows in TV history, and you're saying, you know what? I'm just sort of done with it.

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Well, yeah, well, you know, the thing is that's. That's the best. The business that we've chosen, you know what I mean? And it is very unorthodox, and you don't know what's coming up next. But that's the nature of the beast, you know what I mean? And got to be confident in yourself that you will again prevail and work again one day and do more great things.

[Wendy]

Is there. Is there a fine line between being too, you know, being on a show too long, I mean, stereotyped or typecast, rather than. Or. And knowing when to leave?

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Yeah, I think so. You know, I mean, you know, you don't. The beautiful thing about television is that you do get a chance to really be in people's homes every week, and they really do get to grow with you. The bad thing is that you can get locked into a particular character. In my case, I don't really feel like that was gonna be the case. You know, like, I had started out already doing films and other things like that, so it wasn't like this show was my first foray into the acting arena. But, you know, you know, sometimes you just want to keep it fresh, you know what I mean? And you know, that time.

[Bert]

Makai Pfeiffer joining the Burch show on Q100 this morning.

[Jeff]

Now, Makai, you co starred opposite Eminem in 8 Mile. I'm just curious about Eminem taking this step away from his career and coming back. You think he can make a comeback?

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Oh, definitely. I think that, you know, Eminem was one of those rappers that when he wasn't here, you know, I think his presence was definitely missed. I don't think that his void that he had when he wasn't rapping anymore was filled. So I think that his presence is definitely going to be felt again. I hope.

[Bert]

I think we read this morning that you started out in the rap industry. Were you rapping before Eminem was rapping?

[Makai Pfeiffer]

I don't know if I was rapping before him. You know, I was definitely doing it years ago. I don't know how long it took him to actually make it, but I'm pretty sure he didn't just wake up one day and said, I want to rap.

[Bert]

Pretty sure that's true.

[Makai Pfeiffer]

So I'm pretty sure from the time we. And we're about the same age, so, you know, I'm pretty sure we were probably stepping into the arena around the same time.

[Jeff]

When you work with somebody like him, is that somebody you get close to on the set? Do you become friends with your co stars?

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Oh, definitely. I mean, we. We definitely had a good time and we hit it off. We had a hell of a lot of fun. You know, it took us about five or six months to shoot the film, and I had the best time. And, you know, I grew to love Detroit, you know what I mean? So it was just a lot of fun.

[Jeff]

Would you ever go back to rapping?

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Ah, man, not right now. I'm already past that heyday. You know, I'm already in my 30s and, you know, those days are over. I haven't rapped.

[Jeff]

What about a movie with rapping?

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Probably wouldn't be that bad. I mean, it just depends on what it is and what the role is and, you know, what it is that we're doing.

[Bert]

You know, before we get into lie to me here, you know, Ashton Kutcher is in Atlanta right now and he's filming a movie. Is there anything that you haven't said to him yet about your punked episode that you would like to say to him?

[Makai Pfeiffer]

It's funny because I bumped into Action A couple of times. But no, you know, it's all good. There's nothing, no ill will. No, I don't harbor any bad feelings

[Bert]

after something like that happens. You gotta be sort of like a little bit curious that anything out of the ordinary that happens on any given day, you're like looking over your shoulder. Is that an Ashton Kutcher thing or is this really happening to me?

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Well, you know, it's so funny because they really did a good job with that show because you really don't expect it as much as you wanna say that you're on point, you know, and I'm a New Yorker, so I always feel like I'm a New Yorker. I know what's going on, but you know, you just never know. They really do a great job with that.

[Bert]

Well, talk to us about Lie To Me. I mean, you've got the benefit of being on a TV show that it's gonna go down in history as one of the greatest TV shows ever. And here now you sign up to do Lie to Me. There's gotta be a lot of pressure on the people around you right now.

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Well, yeah, it's actually, it's a lot of fun. You know, I just thought it was a great opportunity. You know, Tim Ross is great and you know, obviously I love Brian Grazer and all the work that he's done and I know Brian, he's a great producer. So, you know, I just felt like, you know, and the thing about ER was I really got in on the ninth season so, you know, it already got all its accolades and you know, it was already a well oiled machine. It's nice to sort of of getting something on the ground up, be a part of the show from the ground up.

[Jeff]

And you've been doing a lot more producing and directing lately. It seems like you're maybe moving behind the scenes a little bit more in the industry.

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Yeah, well, you know, I, you know, I do love, I love both sides. I love both facets. You know, I have directed, but you know, I really love producing and I love acting, you know, so I'm definitely always looking for other opportunities to branch out.

[Jeff]

But we think that you're hot, so we want you in front of the camera, not behind the camera.

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Okay. You know, continue to do so.

[Jeff]

More FaceTime for you, please.

[Bert]

Hey, thanks a lot for your time, Makai. I appreciate it.

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Thank you guys.

[Bert]

Good luck with Lie to Me. Bye bye.

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Thank you.

[Bert]

The Bird Show. All right, so it's been a couple of days here since we talked to Melanie So just as a quick recap, here, here's who Melanie is and why she called us.

[Caller / Listener]

I was out with my girlfriends on Saturday night. We met some guys and I was talking to this one guy all night, but then they left and he didn't get my phone number. But then one of his friends came back in and said, he wants to get your phone number. So he's been texting all week, but he's made two texts, sent two texts. And I'm not sure if he knows who he's talking to.

[Bert]

All right, so does that make it entirely clear who she is?

[Jeff]

I think so. I mean, she thought that he was getting a couple of the details wrong when he was texting with her. So she was afraid when she showed up for the date, he was going to be expecting it to be one of her friends that she was with, not her.

[Bert]

Wasn't there like some kind of psychological weight loss issue thing going on here?

[Jeff]

Also?

[Wendy]

Like, she had mentioned how in high school she was bigger than she is now. And so I think that we felt like a lot of her interpretation of everything that was going on was based on the fact that she felt, I guess, the sense of rejection or fear of rejection. And we were like, you got to get that out of your head, because. Yeah, absolutely.

[Bert]

So we sort of talked her into going on the date and just say, you know what, let's let destiny take over. What's the worst thing that can happen? Right? But we never checked back in with her. So let's find out what happened. Hey, Melanie.

[Caller / Listener]

Hey, guys. How are you?

[Bert]

Good. How are you today?

[Caller / Listener]

Good, thanks.

[Bert]

Alright, so the last time we checked in with you, you were just throwing caution to the wind and you were going to go for it. Like, what's the worst thing that can happen? He sees you, you see him. It's uncomfortable. Wrong person. You have a couple of drinks and then you go your way, he goes his way. But at least you gave it a shot. So headed out.

[Caller / Listener]

Well, after I talked to you guys, I decided I was gonna call him. Like, I was just gonna put it out there because I didn't want to just show up. I just thought, I'm just gonna call him and put caution to win and call him. He answered the phone. Cause obviously it's the number he'd been texting all week. And I said, hey. I said, you know, I just wanted to call you because I kind of think he said, are we going out tonight? And I said, yeah. I said, maybe. I said, but I kind of think you're Talking you might be possib to the wrong girl. I said, just by the things you said. And we went through them all and he said, you know what he said, to be honest, I really did think you were someone else. He said, but I enjoyed talking to you that night too. So let's, you know, meet up at Maggiano's, okay?

[Jeff]

Okay, cool. You kind of cleared the air before

[Caller / Listener]

I started, so I got there early and he never showed up. He never showed up, yet he stood me up.

[Bert]

Oh, what a tool.

[Wendy]

I can't believe I did that.

[Caller / Listener]

And I texted him and he never wrote me back.

[Wendy]

Oh, wow.

[Jeff]

Why wouldn't. I just told you on the phone? That doesn't make any sense.

[Caller / Listener]

I don't know.

[Wendy]

Oh, no.

[Bert]

Maybe there's a guy listening that could give us better perspective on this. Like, she said that he never called. And you immediately in your head knew why? Because I'm coming up with nothing right now.

[Wendy]

He had his out, you know, you gave him his out and he didn't take it, but yet he still was so incredibly rude.

[Bert]

Let's back up for just one second. So when you called him, tell us about that conversation. There has to be an indication somewhere in those couple of minutes that you talked to him that either turned him on or turned him off. I don't know.

[Caller / Listener]

He was just the most nice, outgoing guy. Like, we had a great conversation on the phone. It wasn't. Do you know what I'm saying? It wasn't awkward. It was kind of weird. When I told him, he was kind of quiet for a couple seconds, but it wasn't like, you know, it didn't totally change the conversation.

[Jeff]

And he was the one that arranged, like, where to go and what time and all that.

[Caller / Listener]

Yeah, he set up everything. I'd say anything about that. He told me where, when.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

That sucks.

[Bert]

I've got zero answer at all about that.

[Wendy]

I'm so sorry.

[Jeff]

When you're sitting there waiting for him, what are the stages that you're going through? You're like, oh, he must be late then. Do you worry? Like, what were your stages?

[Caller / Listener]

No, I didn't worry

[Jeff]

mad or sad.

[Caller / Listener]

Like, I was looking at the clock. And by. We were meeting at 7 and by 7:08, I was just like, I don't think he's coming, you know, because I mean, really, it's gonna happen. Because if you're meeting someone, like, that's new. You're usually not that late. You know what I mean?

[Bert]

Have you guys ever been stood up like that before?

[Caller / Listener]

Not that, no.

[Bert]

I have one time. One time? Yeah. She was so smoking hot too. And she was supposed to come by my place and she was picking me up. These were back in the college days when I lost my car and I had my scooter so she had to pick me up.

[Wendy]

That explains it.

[Bert]

Yeah, that's probably why she. Which I would have understood, but no call, no nothing. And I just remember sitting there and sitting there and sitting there and after a while the realization hits you that she's just not coming by. But you still talk yourself into it. Like maybe, you know, something happened with the family. I'm sure she'll show up an hour, hour and a half, two hours before.

[Wendy]

It's horrible.

[Bert]

It's the loneliest feeling ever. That's when I made the 30 minute rule up. Like if you don't hear anything in 30 minutes, then just go about your. Your night. And if he shows up, he shows up. But at 30 minutes, that's it.

[Jeff]

How long did you wait?

[Caller / Listener]

I waited till like 7:30.

[Jeff]

That was it.

[Caller / Listener]

Like 30 minutes.

[Wendy]

Yeah, but it's just the most cowardly thing to do. I just can't figure out why it's.

[Jeff]

And then, I mean, this is such a big small town, you know. You're gonna run into him again.

[Bert]

Totally.

[Jeff]

And then he has to feel like a jerk all over again rather than just calling you and canceling.

[Bert]

Hey, Chad. You have some kind of explanation on why he might have just a bailed?

[Makai Pfeiffer]

I don't know, man. Really, if he would. If he would only text you and then he really didn't even know who he was on top of the whole situation. I think he only had one thing in mind and he still didn't show up, so.

[Bert]

Well, if you only had one thing in mind, he should have showed up. I mean, that would be the reason for going. Good morning, Anthony. You're on Q100.

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Yeah, he's just a big jerk. He isn't even worth your time. Basically what happened was he didn't have anything planned himself because he's that much of a loser. And then when he finally had something come up, maybe one of his buddies said, let's do this. Then he went along with it and totally ditched her.

[Bert]

Sucks. I hope that's not the case. But you're right. She's going to run into him.

[Jeff]

Yeah, I mean, you guys are going to see each other out again at some point. Even if it's not within the next year, it'll be at some point.

[Bert]

And don't get out of it.

[Wendy]

You have the power on that one. Because he's the jerk.

[Bert]

I wouldn't even give him the satisfaction of addressing it with him. When you see him out, pretend like it wasn't even a big deal.

[Jeff]

He may not remember what you look like.

[Bert]

That's right.

[Caller / Listener]

Yeah. No, he may not, because he was drinking that night. Who knows?

[Bert]

Well, that would be awesome. You could come onto him again and set up something and then stand him up.

[Jeff]

Stand him up.

[Wendy]

So much energy.

[Jeff]

Now you're thinking.

[Wendy]

Yeah, but I think that. I mean, he obviously didn't. I mean, he didn't remember who you were, and he was just trying to be nice on the phone, I guess. But I still don't understand why he would go through with making you go somewhere and sit knowing he's not coming.

[Bert]

He is.

[Caller / Listener]

Right. Exactly.

[Bert]

Steve, go ahead. You're on Q100.

[Caller / Listener]

Yeah.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

How you doing?

[Makai Pfeiffer]

You guys are great. I just want to know, did she go to the right Maggiano's, being that there's three here in Atlanta.

[Bert]

Is he sitting somewhere thinking you stood him up, maybe?

[Caller / Listener]

No, I definitely went to the correct one.

[Bert]

It was a nice try.

[Jeff]

Because you talked with him, right?

[Wendy]

Yeah. If he thought. If he was at the wrong one or whatever, they would have.

[Jeff]

Yeah, he would have texted or said something.

[Wendy]

Yeah.

[Bert]

I mean, there's zero reason at all not to send a jerk.

[Jan]

Yeah.

[Bert]

Hey, Nikki.

[Caller / Listener]

Hey, good morning.

[Bert]

How are you?

[Caller / Listener]

First of all, I hate this guy already.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

But to his.

[Caller / Listener]

Well, not really his defense, I. What if, like, his friend that went back into the bar to get the number was kind of playing a prank on him, like, purposely getting the wrong number so he'd be. I don't know, Like. I feel like it has nothing to do with her. I think it was one of his immature friends, like, trying to prank him or something.

[Bert]

But then why would he set up a date and then not call and just completely stand her up? What does he get out of that?

[Caller / Listener]

I think. I think he. Nothing. But he feels like an idiot. And he's probably thinking, oh, God, you know, already look this bad. I'm gonna show up.

[Makai Pfeiffer]

I don't know.

[Caller / Listener]

I don't know.

[Wendy]

There's a part of me that thinks that it worked out better than if you had just shown up and he saw you, you know, and had that. That physical reaction to the fact that you weren't who he thought you were. Because if he's that much of a jerk to stand you up, then. No. Tell him what he would have done in person if he actually showed up. Yeah.

[Bert]

What A total boosh. Yeah. We could probably spend the next hour speculating on why he didn't show up. But the. The bottom line of the whole thing is there is zero excuse for not just sending a text, even if there was an emergency. After the emergency, you text and go, oh, my God, I am so sorry that I didn't show up. Zero reason not to do that. So he's a big old boosh, and you're better off of that.

[Wendy]

Yeah. Sorry about that.

[Caller / Listener]

Definitely. Thanks, guys. I appreciate it.

[Bert]

All right, Melanie, thank you.

[Caller / Listener]

Bye. Bye.

[Jeff]

Bye.

[Bert]

Poor thing. Dude, I'm telling you, guys have never been there before. There is nothing lonelier than sitting there on the couch watching tv, because seconds feel like minutes, minutes feel like hours. And the rejection that you're going. You feel like such a fool when you stand somebody up.

[Jeff]

She had to do it where there was, like, servers around and people going, can I get you something? Would you like to go ahead and order?

[Bert]

It's worse than a restaurant or a bar.

[Wendy]

You're like, there's going to be two of us. I'm just waiting on them. Have they come yet? Have they come yet? Yet? No. I gotta go.

[Bert]

You're faking the. Look at the door. Oh, yes.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Terrible.

[Bert]

The bird show. We will call her.

[Makai Pfeiffer]

Holly.

[Wendy]

Holly.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Bert]

Wants to be on the Voice Disguise. I didn't even realize college graduations were going on now.

[Jan]

This weekend or next weekend?

[Wendy]

Oh, this weekend. Yeah. I mean, they're the next couple weekends, but there's several colleges this weekend.

[Bert]

Well, Holly here wants to be on the Voice Disguiser, and she's supposed to be graduating this weekend. Right.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Holly, Hi. Yes.

[Bert]

Hi.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

How are you?

[Bert]

Oh, there's such a heaviness.

[Wendy]

I know. You seem very concerned.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

A little.

[Wendy]

Okay.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

I just, you know, it's graduation weekend, and I. I really want it to be a good one, but it's just such a weird situation. I really. You know, I don't know what my place is or what to do.

[Bert]

All right, so this is really more about your roommate than it is you. Right?

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Yeah, it's not about me, but I'm kind of. I mean, I technically could be in the middle of it, so my roommate, who I've lived with through school, we live in an apartment off campus, but we're roommates because our parents are friends. I mean, we grew up together, and then when we went and went to school together, we became. But we're not really friends, so she's more like family or a cousin. And I found out this is going back three semesters now that she's not in school and our parents are coming tomorrow morning for our graduation to see both of us graduate.

[Jan]

How did you find out that she hasn't been in school for three semesters?

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Because this is a long time ago. But my computer was out, so I was on her computer. And. Okay, I was snooping, but I was, you know, going through stuff on the computer and there was a letter from the school saying that, you know, because of academics, you know, whatever, that she wasn't doing well in school and so she couldn't continue.

[Bert]

And she's never addressed this with you?

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

She's never told me. Wait, so I don't know.

[Jeff]

She doesn't know that you know.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

She has no idea that.

[Jan]

So she's been snowing you, too, saying that she's still in school and pretending to go to class and all this other stuff for three semesters as roommates and you've had no idea?

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Yeah, supposedly. But, yeah, I mean, she thinks that I have absolutely no idea and she probably won't tell me because she knows that I would tell my parents and my parents would tell her parents.

[Wendy]

It's her problem. Like, I don't understand why you're so concerned about her graduating.

[Bert]

Yeah. Why do you feel like you got to get your hands dirty on this whole thing?

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Because. Well, I don't know whether I do or not, but our parents are getting up. They live four hours away. They're driving here together early in the morning to show up to come to our graduation. Like, do I tell them? Because otherwise they're going to be completely off guard. I mean, I don't know where the tuition money's going. I don't know any of that. So do I Just let it fly. I mean, it's going to be a disaster.

[Jan]

I think you have to tell your parents.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

What?

[Jan]

I think she has to tell her parents because the fact that you now know your parents, because they're writing down with her parents and family friend and all that stuff are going to be celebrating her graduation as well. They are going to. And she may be coming clean this weekend. Like, how is she going to participate in the ceremony? You know what I mean? Is she just going to sneak in? I know they're big and whatever. Maybe she's just going to sneak in and stand with or whatever.

[Wendy]

Get your cap and gown, though, without. She won't have access to it.

[Jan]

Right, but if it's a big school,

[Bert]

she's going to get caught this weekend.

[Jan]

You'll never. I mean, not everybody walks. They just Say College of humanities and 700 people stand up.

[Wendy]

I know, but she'll have to be somewhere else because I went to a big school and you can't even. You can't physically get. Or we couldn't physically get the cap and gown without being able to walk.

[Jan]

Maybe she's coming clean this weekend, but if not, like your parents are going to congratulate her, your parents are going to give her a gift, your parents are going to celebrate with her. And I think you have an obligation of telling your parents and saying, look, this is not our business. But I'm telling you because I know and I think you need to tell your parents.

[Wendy]

I want to clarify something, though. You said that you went on. When did you go on her computer?

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Three semesters, a year and a half ago.

[Wendy]

A year and a half ago you got the word that she couldn't continue because she wasn't in school.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Right.

[Wendy]

That's the only thing that she. That you saw in her computer. Right?

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Right.

[Wendy]

So you have no idea whether she responded to that and has been going to school?

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Well, we also have like friends of friends, like mutual friends. So like through the grapevine as well.

[Wendy]

So you've known for a year and a half she's not been in school.

[Jan]

See, that changes things. I thought you just found out.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

No, no. This has been a long time this has been going on and you know, it's none of my business normally, but at this point that's. Now it is going to be my business tomorrow morning when I'm going to have to do deal with it, which I don't even want to deal with on my graduation.

[Jan]

Do you feel.

[Jeff]

But she could be graduating.

[Bert]

Let me get some advice from listeners for her. Hey, Carla, you want to be on the Voice Disguiser also?

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Yes, please, go ahead. I was just letting her know that there's four roommates in our house and two of our roommates have done the same thing. One of them was a friend of ours that we've been friends with for about three years and it took her two semesters before she tell us she was supposed to graduate this semester as well and just told her parents two weeks ago, but she was sick over it. Sick, sick, sick.

[Jeff]

What did her parents do?

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

They. I don't think she told them the whole truth. At first they thought she was only out for a semester and that it was because of student loans, but they've been really pushing her to go back. But the way that her GPA is, I mean, they get those letters and I'm sure The listener saw the letter. It says that you have to be out a whole year. There's no option for appeal. I mean, it's pretty serious stuff. But the other girl that. I mean, she's been lying this whole time, saying that she's got class. Like, you ask her one week what time class is, and it's one time. The next week, it's another time. But, I mean, it's a lot of lying on their part. I'm sure it's very stressful on their part, you know, but I think that she should just kind of let her roommate tell the parents that, you know, she could be sick over it or maybe at least bring it up to her about what to do.

[Jan]

Holly, are you feeling some animosity or anger at the fact that your roommate's gonna participate in the graduation ceremony and receive congratulations and gifts and attention for something she didn't earn? I'll answer that for you.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

I mean, I think. I don't. Because I really think that. I mean, knowing her parents, like, it's. It's. Everything's gonna fly tomorrow.

[Jan]

But you sat on it for a year and a half, and now all of a sudden, you want to tell, and it's almost like you'd be mad.

[Jeff]

I would be mad about that because you've been the one going to class, busting your butt. You're going through your graduation thing. I would be mad about that.

[Bert]

I might be mad about it, but I wouldn't do anything.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

She's not. So really, I mean, I'm. You know.

[Bert]

Here's Daniel with some advice. He wants to be on the Voice Disguiser also.

[Daniel]

Am I on the Voice Disguiser?

[Jan]

Yes.

[Daniel]

Okay. I did the similar thing. What type of school was it? Is it a major university? Yeah, it's a big school.

[Jan]

It's a big school.

[Makai Pfeiffer]

It's a big school.

[Jeff]

She doesn't want to say which one.

[Daniel]

Okay, yeah, that's fine. As long as it's a big school, you definitely can still walk. I don't think you should tell the parents. I got down to the wire and didn't pass class, so I wasn't able to actually graduate. But we worked around it pretty well and were still able to get me on a gown and get me on the field. They don't check. They pretty much just put you in a big pool of people and walk you through there as a massive, like, herd. Unless you're, like, trying to front as an honor grad and walk, like, with a perfect, you know, magna cum laude or whatever, then you're not gonna have a problem.

[Bert]

All right, so let me ask you this, then, Holly. Let's just say in a perfect world for your roommate. I want to get back to something that Jeff said. In a perfect world, let's say she can walk and she gets away with it this weekend.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Well, then I'm pissed.

[Bert]

Is that really. So really what you want to do is you want to bust her this weekend?

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Well, then it's just ridiculous. Like, it's this huge lie. I don't want to be around that.

[Caller / Listener]

Yeah.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Then I don't want to see all the. Yeah. The gifts my parents are getting. I just. That's bad. That whole thing's gonna be bad for my graduation weekend.

[Wendy]

I think Jeff and Bert are tapping into the truth here, because it is. It's still odd to me why you're so involved.

[Bert]

Cause she's angry.

[Jan]

Because she's mad right now.

[Wendy]

A year and a half, when to me, it's like, it's not my problem. I'm graduating. I'm enjoying my graduation. Who cares?

[Jeff]

But they're kind of like sisters. I mean, she said they've known each other all growing up, that their parents are friends. That's the reason that they're roommates. They're not really, like, friends themselves, but it's kind of like.

[Wendy]

But then I would have brought it up in the last year and a half if I'm that close to her.

[Jeff]

It's kind of like she's the sister you've never had. So there's that sort of unspoken competition thing going on.

[Jan]

And the fact that they are.

[Makai Pfeiffer]

I don't know.

[Jan]

I just think the fact that the roommates. And the way you set it up is we're roommates because our parents are friends, like it sounds. I don't know. I just see a lot of underlying anger.

[Wendy]

Something weird's going on.

[Bert]

Yeah. Hey, Holly, we gotta run because we've got you, Grant. Or you, Grant, Hugh Jackman coming on in a couple of minutes, but I wanna talk to you again on Monday to find out what you did for me. The question really in you is, do you wanna ruin this weekend for her because you're angry, or do you really wanna tell your parents just because you're trying to cover your own butt? But it sure sounds like you're angry and you want to bust her just for the sake of busting her.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Maybe.

[Wendy]

Yeah, that's.

[Bert]

Yes, I think that's it.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

All right. You guys are good.

[Bert]

All right, well, we'll talk to you on Monday morning about it, though. Okay.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Okay. Thank you.

[Bert]

All right. Bye. Bye.

[Melanie / Holly / Caller]

Bye.

[Bert]

Yeah, she's telling her she's busting up this weekend.

[Jan]

She's going to. Even if she decides not to, you know, it's going to come out. Especially if they go out and have a couple glasses, glasses of wine with the graduation dinner.

[Jeff]

She's going to be like, look, here's my diploma. Let me see yours.

[Bert]

Yeah, she's yours. Something in some. Yeah. With an ulterior motive.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Let's get a picture with our diplomas.

[Bert]

Yes. It's gonna happen. The bird show.