Full Show PT 1: Thursday, January 8 [Vault]

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The Bert Show (Pionaire Podcasting)

Episode: Full Show PT 1: Thursday, January 8 [Vault]

Air Date: January 8, 2026
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Episode Overview

This episode of The Bert Show delivers the signature blend of humor, "real talk," and relatable listener interactions that make it a staple for morning radio. The two main, high-energy segments in this episode explore:

1. Parental Honesty and Baby Beauty: Launching "Baby Idol," a tongue-in-cheek competition about how parents (and others) perceive the cuteness of their kids, getting real about unconditional love versus objective cuteness.
2. Relationship Trust and Cheating: Through calls and clips inspired by an episode of Desperate Housewives, the hosts and listeners tackle trust, infidelity, and insecurity in relationships—especially when one partner was “the other woman.”

The show alternates between playful, comedic banter and candid, sometimes poignant advice, always with the full cast bouncing off caller stories for both laughs and hard truths.

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Segment 1: "Baby Idol" and the Honesty of Parental Love

[01:35–16:31]

Key Topics & Discussion Points

• Origin of "Baby Idol":
  A mother, Karen, admits uncertainty about whether her kids are actually cute or she’s just biased (02:03). Listeners weigh in by looking at photos and judging for themselves, but most can’t help boasting about their own children's looks.

• Parental Bias & Competitive Spirit:
  “But what we noticed, there was a common thread with these calls that they couldn't just give a compliment and get off the phone. They had to add, but my kids are better looking. And that's where Baby Idol started.” – Host (02:27)

• How the Competition Works:
  “We're going to run Baby Idol the same way American Idol is run. ... We'd narrow it down and vote somebody off week by week and we'd have a bottom three.” – Host (04:33, 05:00)

• Joking About 'Homely' Babies:
  The hosts riff on parent denial, unconditional love, and how parents sometimes disguise “homely” babies with hats or hoods.
  “I understand the fact that as a parent, in your eyes, your baby is beautiful, but you got to look at your kid sometime and go see that's called unconditional love.” – Co-host (05:45)

• Can Parents Admit Their Child Is Ugly?

  • The hosts challenge listeners (especially moms) to actually say, "My child is ugly."
  • One mother calls in and fully admits it, becoming the episode’s standout call (14:12-15:55).
    • “She’s not good looking. There’s something wrong with her. She’s just ugly. But I love her a lot.” – Natalie (14:41)
  • The show finds most moms cannot say it aloud—unconditional love triumphs.

Notable Moments & Quotes

• “I don't think any mom could say my kid's ugly.” – Host (06:01)
• “I was really nervous about that when Hayden was born…he was very, very ugly newborn.” – Host (06:49, 06:59)
• “If the baby's in the front where the parent can see the baby and the baby is facing out, then it's a cute baby.” – Co-host (07:38)

Memorable Callers:

• Tammy recounts her “lizard baby” experience and admits her child wasn’t the prettiest as a newborn, but “she doesn’t look like a lizard anymore.” (08:01–08:50)
• Natalie is shockingly candid: “My child is ugly. He's not that best looking.” (14:25)

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Segment 2: Relationship Trust, Cheating, and the 'Other Woman'

[16:40–52:46]

Key Topics & Discussion Points

• Desperate Housewives Clip — Patterns of Cheating:
  The cast debates a storyline: Tom cheated on ex-girlfriend Annabelle with Lynette, married Lynette, and then secretly rehired Annabelle. Can trust ever be restored when a relationship started with cheating?

  • [Excerpted Clip: 17:08–18:46]

• Listener Experiences – Trust After Infidelity:
  The show opens the lines to women who began as the “other woman.” Despite being “chosen” over a previous partner, trust issues linger.

  • "Do you ever fully, fully trust the guy you know?" – Host (19:56)

• Cycle of Distrust and Insecurity:
  Most callers admit residual mistrust, referencing both famous couples (like Britney Spears and Kevin Federline) and personal relationships.

  • "If he left somebody else for you, he could always leave you for somebody else." – Anna (22:34, 40:23)
  • "It stays on my mind constantly. I'm always thinking that he's cheating on me." – Sally (26:56, 44:43)

• Accountability for Attraction & Cheating:
  The cast debates whether people control who they’re attracted to (“You can't help who you’re attracted to”) or just how they act on it.

  • “I don't think you can control who you're attracted to. I think you make a decision on how you're gonna handle it.” – Host (25:07, 43:07)
  • “You can definitely control it…You control who you're attracted to and who you're not.” – Co-host (24:48, 42:56)

• Tough Love for Listeners in Troubled Relationships:

  • Hosts firmly urge women to value themselves and walk away from men who cheat or disrespect them.
    • “If the basis for any healthy relationship, let's assume, is trust, and you don't have it with this guy, then why are you in the relationship for so long?” – Host (27:47, 45:55)
    • “It's okay to leave...if you left, it might get better because obviously where you are is not working.” – Co-host (29:19, 47:26)
  • A young woman, Sally, struggles with loneliness, self-worth, and feeling “stuck”—the cast rallies around her with encouragement (29:34–32:19, 46:43–49:35).

• Humor and Shared Experience:
  While some stories are serious, the cast continually keeps things light and relatable, stressing that everyone survives heartbreak and loneliness and emerges stronger.

Notable Quotes & Call Highlights

• “You have to learn that if you're even questioning whether it's real love, then it's not.” – Co-host (31:21, 49:28)
• “Don't let the fear of being alone be the reason that you stay in a terrible relationship.” – Co-host (31:55, 50:02)
• “There's a million people out there that are going to dig you, you know?” – Host (31:51, 49:59)

Standout Listener Story

Jackie’s Boomerang Husband:

• Jackie relates how she met her husband while he was separated; they married, divorced, and “on the 62nd day” after, he remarried his first wife.
  • “So your angle is…yeah, you trusted him, but you shouldn't have.” – Host (52:22)
  • “Exactly. Because like I said, two days after my divorce was final, he remarried her.” – Jackie (52:25)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:35 – "Baby Idol" introduced; discussion about parental bias and cuteness
• 06:01 – Can parents truly admit their child isn’t cute?
• 07:55 – Callers share honest (and humorous) stories about “ugly” babies
• 16:40 – Shift to Desperate Housewives & relationship trust
• 18:46 – Discussion: Can cheaters/betrayed ever be trusted/trustful again?
• 22:15 – Callers address what it’s like to be “the other woman”
• 26:31 – Sally’s story: struggles with trust, loneliness, relationship doubts
• 29:34 – Co-hosts advise Sally on self-respect & leaving toxic relationships
• 33:00 – Jackie’s story: marriage, divorce, and being left for husband’s ex-wife

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Tone, Style, and Takeaways

The Bert Show’s hosts expertly balance irreverent humor and empathy throughout, providing a space for listeners to laugh at themselves—and sometimes confront hard truths. The cast pokes fun at universal experiences (baby photos, heartbreak), always keeping it “real and funny.”

• Humor lands in both the Baby Idol and relationship segments—the crowd never gets too heavy before some comic relief resets the tone.
• Memorable quotes and honest stories from listeners make the advice impactful and relatable.
• Authenticity is a takeaway: Whether being honest about your baby's looks or facing hard decisions in relationships, the show’s message is about loving yourself, finding humor in hardship, and not being afraid to move on.

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Episode’s Most Memorable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “I don't think any mom could say my kid's ugly.” – Host (06:01)
• “My child is ugly. He's not that best looking.” – Caller, Natalie (14:25)
• “If he left somebody else for you, he could always leave you for somebody else.” – Anna (22:34, 40:23)
• "You make a decision on how you're gonna handle it." – Host (25:07, 43:07)
• "Don't let the fear of being alone be the reason that you stay in a terrible relationship.” – Co-host (31:55, 50:02)
• “Yeah, you trusted him, but you shouldn't have.” – Host to Jackie (52:22)

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For listeners seeking laughs, real talk, and advice on parenting or love, this episode offers a bit of everything—with a reminder that whatever your problem, you’re not alone and it’s okay to laugh at yourself along the way.

Transcript

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[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

The Birch Show I gotta tell you guys, we have started the Birch Show's Baby Idol competition. Read the bottom and the pictures are starting. The pictures are starting to come in.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Age 9 months and granted stop looking at me.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Granted, a lot of you guys do have very cute kids and we need to explain this whole thing to you that a couple of days ago we started talking about how did we even get into the conversation about good looking babies?

[Co-host or Panelist]

Well, a listener had emailed us and she at least she was being honest. She said that she thought that her two kids were cute enough to go into modeling but she wasn't sure whether she was that mother who thought her children, you know, children are just beautiful or if they really were. And she wanted our advice personally to start off with on whether we thought her kids were cute. So at Least she came to the table honest and say, am I just being an overzealous mother or my kids really cute?

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

So what we decided to do is put it in your hands. And we put her baby's pictures up on the website. You guys went there, took a look at them, and then you called us and you gave her your honest opinions on what you think her kids look like, if they were cute or not. But what we noticed, like, there was a common thread with these calls that they couldn't just give a compliment and get off the phone. They had to add, but my kids are better looking. And that's where Baby Idol started. This is the first call that we took from that initial Mom. All right, so tell us about your kids here.

[Caller or Guest]

The youngest one is 15 months and.

The second one is two and a half.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

All right. And you've been looking at your kids and you. I mean, like every parent, or at least most parents.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah, it's like every parent, you know.

Every parent thinks their kids greater, you.

Know, and beautiful and. But it just seems like everywhere we go, my husband and I, that we take the kids is like, your kids are so cute. They need to do this and they.

Need to do that.

And I was like, you know, let them be kids. But, you know, I've been thinking about it, like, you know, I see kids on the commercials and on the TVs, it's like, well, I think my kids.

Are just as cute as they are.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

So here's what we want to do. This is going to take a little bit of good timing here. So we're hoping that you're listening to us and you're by a computer right now. And what we want you to do is go to allthehitsq100.com click on the birch show and then go to. I think it's the second link there. And you will see Karen's children take a look at them and then call us up and give us your honest opinion. If you think the kids are really good looking and you think they have a future in modeling, absolutely. Tell Karen that if you don't think that they would be great on the inside of some magazines, then you probably need to call us and just give Karen your honest opinion. Natalie, you're on all the hits. Q100.

[Caller or Guest]

I think they're okay. I think my kid is so darn cute.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Like, why do you think that your children are any better looking than Karen's?

[Caller or Guest]

I guess I just look at my.

Kid and see myself. So that's why I think you Know, if I think my kid is cute, I'm probably seeing some of me in them.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

So her kids are cute, but not as cute as yours or as you.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Sure.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Or as you.

[Caller or Guest]

We'll say that. Sure.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Hey, Amanda.

[Caller or Guest]

I want to challenge her because I think my kids are cuter. I can never say a child is ugly ever. Her kids are beautiful, but my kids.

Her kids ain't got nothing on my kids.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

And that's a great example right there because all of these parents were calling up saying the same thing. You got good looking kids, but my kids are way better looking. So we devised baby Idol and we're going to run baby Idol the same way American Idol is run.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Pretty much, yeah. We're gonna start off with our top 12, right? Isn't it top 12?

I think it's gone up to the top 120.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

We didn't know how successful this would be because we didn't know if parents wanted to put their children through this kind of criticism. But apparently you guys have no problem doing that.

[Co-host or Panelist]

So if it's gonna be that big, then we gotta do it like they do when you know, like, you're going to Hollywood. So we have the group that's going to Hollywood, then we have the group, you know, that's like the A group. And they're all in one room. And we tell the one room of babies, no, you're going home, or the next room of babies that they're moving on. And then it would get down to the. And then we'd narrow it down and vote somebody off week by week and we'd have a bottom three and all the above. And then we will find Atlanta's baby idol.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

So if you want your kid to be in on the Burt shows baby idol, you have to email us the picture and some contact information to get them in on baby idol.

[Co-host or Panelist]

And from what we've seen so far, most of the kids come in are way homely. So if you know your kid is good looking, I mean, go ahead and it's gonna be an easy one to win. I mean, there's somebody like this thing.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Is here for the taking.

[Co-host or Panelist]

I understand the fact that as a parent, in your eyes, your baby is beautiful, but you got to look at your kid sometime and go see that's called unconditional lovebird.

It's when the parent thinks their baby is beautiful, when they're related, but you.

Can acknowledge that it's beautiful but disproportionate.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

I wonder if, I wonder if we could find. Can we find anybody listening Right now we can put you on the voice disguiser and you can honestly say, as a mom, I think dads can do this. But I don't think any mom could say my kid's ugly.

[Co-host or Panelist]

I don't think so either.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

I don't think you have it in you. 404-741-1005 you might believe it, but the words have never come out of your mouth that my child is ugly. Everybody believes that their child is absolutely.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Ugly as they get older. Then you start getting the haircuts where it's a little closer to their face. Try to cover some stuff up, but you still never say that the kid is ugly.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Get them all the shirts and all the sweatshirts that have hoods.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Have hoods, have hats. You know, all of a sudden your kid starts wearing hats. Young. But you never say they're ugly.

Only him out at night.

If Hayden's head hadn't shrunk back down, you guys would have kept a hat on.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

I was really nervous about that when Hayden was.

[Co-host or Panelist]

If he didn't, he wouldn't have been able to keep a hat on. That he would have wrapped his head like India Ari.

Yeah.

Been like Marge Shimson meets Indy.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Ari Kaden looked like the cartoon, the stereotypical cartoon. Like when you hit him on top of the head and they get that instant oop. I mean, it was a seven inch banana on the top of his head. He was very, very ugly. Newborn.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Now answer me this. So because I don't have children. So when the baby's in the carrier and they have the blanket over it, that's truly to keep the sun out and keep the baby quiet, or are they really just trying to hide an ugly baby?

I think you can tell by those little papoose things that parents use, right? Like if the baby.

They call Baby Bjorns.

Whatever. If the baby is in the front where the parent can see the baby and the baby is facing out, then.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

It'S a cute baby and it's a cute baby.

[Co-host or Panelist]

But if the baby's in the back, like upside down, kind of just half strapped in there, a little piece of duct tape.

Or in the front facing the chest, Right.

Covered up with a Jennifer Wilbanks towel over there.

Oh, he's sleeping right now. You can't look at him. But really they're trying to smother them in their chest. So take a look at the face.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Hey, Tammy.

[Caller or Guest]

Hi.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Good morning.

[Caller or Guest]

Good morning.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Can you admit that your child is ugly?

[Caller or Guest]

Well, when my fourth child was born, I have five.

But when My fourth one was born.

My mother and her father were standing at the foot of the bed and their smiles just fell off their face. And they raised her up. And I was like, oh my God, what is that?

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

See, I'm a lot different than most because I don't think there are. I think there are no newborns that are pretty. I think they all newborns are ugly.

[Caller or Guest]

But not as ugly as she was. She's like a lizard really. It was really scary. Like, you know on that show alienation a long time ago when the lady gave birth.

Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Oh, look, there's the woman with the lizard child.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Panelist]

So can you say that now my kid is ugly.

[Caller or Guest]

She's not.

I mean, she's not gorgeous now, but she doesn't look like a lizard anymore. Can you say it but that she's ugly?

[Co-host or Panelist]

Yeah.

[Caller or Guest]

She's not that ugly.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

She's not that ugly.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Yeah. Mothers can't do it.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

It's just part. It's not part of a woman's makeup.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Well, because you feel like you're betraying your child if you call it ugly, it's all right. That's what fan. That's what family's for.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

That's what unconditional love is about.

[Co-host or Panelist]

If your mama can't say you're pretty, nobody can.

That's what you said. That's what aunts for ants are there to make sure that, you know that your kid's kind of ugly.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Now let me ask you this, because we said that, that even parents that know their kid is ugly, like you're, you know, your child is ugly, but the words won't come out of your mouth.

[Caller or Guest]

But you know, I, I don't think she's pretty. But everybody else says she's the prettiest child I have.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Well, that's because they feel good. They have to. Because she's all cross eyed.

They're overcompensating.

But everybody's beautiful.

[Caller or Guest]

No, no, I don't. And God said, I don't think so.

But everybody else seems to think she's really pretty. She looks like her daddy. Maybe that's why I don't think she is.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Oh, see, so what are you saying?

[Co-host or Panelist]

The other spouse.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

So what are you saying? Your husband is ugly?

[Caller or Guest]

My ex husband.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Oh. So she's a constant reminder of that ugly lizard face guy you used to be married to.

[Caller or Guest]

That's right.

[Co-host or Panelist]

And sleep with. You slept with lizard man. Then you had lizard baby. But you're right. When she's backed up against the Wall. Who did she throw it to? Her ex husband.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

The ex husband?

[Co-host or Panelist]

It looks like him.

You should try to cut off her tail and see if it grows back. That's what happens to real lizards.

Maybe she'll slither away too fast.

She's cute, you know. She's kind of ugly and all, but what really annoys me is when she leaves. Sheds her skin and leaves it just lying in the living room.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Hey, Robin.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Good morning.

[Caller or Guest]

Hi.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Can you be the only mom to say that my son or my daughter is ugly?

[Caller or Guest]

I have said many times that my son was ugly.

No, he's 18 now and he's not.

But I did say it when he was a baby. He was ugly.

[Co-host or Panelist]

You don't win the prize.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Not what we're looking for.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Be. It has to be a current ugly situation. They have to be in a current state of ugliness.

[Caller or Guest]

A current ugly baby. I gotcha.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Current state of ugliness.

Sorry.

[Caller or Guest]

Okay.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

When did your son turn the the corner from ugly to good looking?

[Caller or Guest]

Actually, he was. He had a really big head when he was born. And he was very fair complected, so you could see like the veins in his head. He looked like an alien.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Yeah.

[Caller or Guest]

And. But then when he got hair about.

Two, he got really cute.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Alien.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Yeah. I've seen those babies in at like Northside that almost look like they belong in a science class that they're teaching you where the veins are in a head.

[Caller or Guest]

On all the time.

Because his head would get sunburned.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Right. Because you're protecting his head. That's right.

With a really big brim that went all the way down to his waist.

Right. Now, Bert, is it safe to say. Because you know, going on your theory that nobody should take pictures of the newborn and show them, like, have you ever. You know, there have been the new mothers that have the little book and they want to show you the newborn pictures. And I agree with you. I don't know of any newborn pictures that are really that.

Let me tell you what picture.

I never wait a week or two.

Because I never want to see the picture of the newborn still damp in the towel.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Yeah.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Still on it.

I'm the mom looking like she just got out of fighting battle when the.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Baby still has all that, like, jelly that. Like the jelly or the gefilte fish stuff? The gefilte. The stuff that's around the gefilte fish.

[Co-host or Panelist]

The residue.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

That stuff.

[Co-host or Panelist]

That's mom stuff.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

I don't want to see that either.

[Co-host or Panelist]

I'm sorry, Abraham. What did you just Say sorry.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Those of you that aren't of Jewish lineage wouldn't get that joke. Just us Jewish people. Good morning, Angela.

[Caller or Guest]

Hi.

[Co-host or Panelist]

We'll only be taking calls from Jacob and Rebecca for the rest of this.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

What's up, Angela?

[Caller or Guest]

I was just calling to tell you guys.

We're talking about how a mother will.

Never tell her kids they're ugly. My grandmother, my entire life has told my mother, you know, grandkids are the greatest. But every one of her kids, and every one of her grandkids, save one, are the ugliest children and the ugliest.

People she has ever in her life.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Grandparents don't count, right?

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Grandparents don't count. The words my child is currently ugly is ugly cannot come out of a woman's mouth.

[Co-host or Panelist]

I think that's the beauty of being a mother.

I think we're proving. I think we're proving that right here.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Hi, Laura.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Hello.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Good morning. Say this. My child is ugly.

[Caller or Guest]

You cannot make me say that.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

You can't do it.

[Caller or Guest]

But I will tell you this. The first year of his life, he looked like Mr. Burns from the Simpsons.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Doesn't count.

First year. How old is he now?

[Caller or Guest]

He's going on four, and he's the.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Cootest guy in the room. He has EBCs in Spanish, French and Italian.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

He's so smart.

[Caller or Guest]

No, I'm not gonna go that far. The first year, Mr. Burns. Every time I looked at him, you know, I'm thinking, where's Mr. Smithers? Where's. You know.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Is your child currently ugly? Is it, I wonder, is your child currently ugly?

[Caller or Guest]

No.

[Co-host or Panelist]

No.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Okay.

[Co-host or Panelist]

I wonder, would a mother say, my child is ugly or my child is stupid? Which would come out of her mouth first?

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Oh, ugly.

[Co-host or Panelist]

No, I think stupid.

I think she'd say stupid before she'd say ugly.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Does it matter? I think this might have everything to do with gender.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Well, she. You know, when. And the reason I thought about it is because when I said, oh, and he's the smartest boy in the world, and Jim's talking about, you know, being bilingual. And she said, well, I wouldn't go that far. So that made me wonder if. Yeah, I bet a mother would say that her child is stupid first.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Good morning, Natalie.

[Caller or Guest]

Yes.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Hi.

[Caller or Guest]

Hi.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

These words must come out of your mouth, my child is ugly. For us to continue this conversation with.

[Caller or Guest]

You, my child is kind of ugly.

[Co-host or Panelist]

You can't do it.

[Caller or Guest]

You can't.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

My child is ugly right now.

[Caller or Guest]

My child is ugly. He's not that best looking.

[Co-host or Panelist]

What the hell is wrong with you? Get off our phone.

You're no mother.

How dare you?

How dare you tell us about your ugly kid?

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

But you gotta turn your radio down.

[Caller or Guest]

She's not good looking. She. She just isn't. There's something wrong with her. She's just ugly. But I love her a lot. But she's just ugly.

[Co-host or Panelist]

How old is she?

[Caller or Guest]

She's about to be two and next week.

[Co-host or Panelist]

What's wrong with her?

[Caller or Guest]

I don't know. She looks nothing like me. She looks nothing like her father. It's just what I'm kind of ask myself sometimes. What happened to her?

[Co-host or Panelist]

Is her eyes a little too far apart? Is the nose in the wrong place? Like, what's wrong?

[Caller or Guest]

It's just. I don't know. I can send you a picture if y' all want.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Oh, yes.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Yes.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Oh, yes. We would like to see this child.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Whose own mother said she is a disgrace.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Do you have other children?

[Caller or Guest]

Say what?

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Do you have other children?

[Caller or Guest]

No, she's my only one so far.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

So you can do it again, right? And get a pretty one.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Try to get it right.

[Caller or Guest]

Yes, I do. Right now.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Do you really do any. I mean, knowing how you feel about your child, is there anything you do to keep her from other people seeing her?

No.

[Caller or Guest]

People tell me she's cute, but to me she's just ugly.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Natalie, let me ask you this and be totally honest with me.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Is your motivation for having a second child to have a better looking child than your daughter?

[Caller or Guest]

Yes.

[Co-host or Panelist]

At least she was honest.

At least she was honest.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Will you please send us that picture?

[Caller or Guest]

I will.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Thank you.

[Co-host or Panelist]

We cannot post that because.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

No, we won't do that. We won't post it.

[Co-host or Panelist]

We won't post it. No.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

No.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Absolutely not. And answer the phone. No.

Only we deserve to see it.

No.

Because the child so ugly that the parent must create another.

What if that came back up again in that child's life? That'd be devastating. We'd ruin somebody's life.

Yeah.

What if she has another child that's even uglier?

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

You just keep going until you get one that's even remotely good looking.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Then she jogs, takes a cab, cuts her hair and goes to Alberta without kids.

The Birch Show.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

So, Desperate Housewives this weekend. Oh, that was a good one. Sunday was a really good one.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Every single show is a good one. It's my only appointment television. I love Desperate Housewives.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

It seems like in this episode, like every storyline, we got some nugget of information out that we didn't know before, you know, and the storyline with Lynette and her husband Tom, I thought was a really interesting one. A really interesting one with a lot of interesting questions involved in it also.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Well, we found out this last episode that Tom started dating Lynette when he was cheating on his girlfriend Annabelle. So Tom and this woman Annabelle are dating. He cheats on Annabelle with Lynette, ends up marrying Lynette. Now, so far, we don't know about any infidelity. Lynette knows about no infidelity with her husband Tom. But she finds out in this episode that Tom has just rehired Annabelle at his company and did not tell Lynette about it for three months. So in Lynette's little diabolical plan is, you know, the whole cliche of keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer. She invites Annabelle over for dinner, and.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Then she starts doing all sorts of ridiculous things to prove to the ex girlfriend that their marriage is really, really strong. And her husband is like, this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

[Actor - Lynette's Husband]

So this is quite a show you put on tonight. Show the boys, paintings, all those references to how happy we are.

[Actor - Lynette]

What's wrong with subtly reminding Annabelle that you're happily married?

[Actor - Lynette's Husband]

Because it's wasn't subtle, and it's an insult to me.

[Actor - Lynette]

I did not mean it that way.

[Actor - Lynette's Husband]

Are you so insecure that you have.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

To pull that crap?

[Actor - Lynette]

Keep your voice down.

[Actor - Lynette's Husband]

It doesn't matter. She has feelings for me as long as I am not interested. Have I ever, ever given you any reason to doubt me?

[Actor - Lynette]

Anyone is capable of anything. The first time we ever met, you were cheating with you.

[Actor - Lynette's Husband]

Cheating with you.

[Actor - Lynette]

It's a pattern of behavior.

[Actor - Lynette's Husband]

H. Give me a break.

[Actor - Lynette]

Well, what am I supposed to do? You hire your old girlfriend and you don't tell me about it for three months?

[Actor - Lynette's Husband]

I could have told you from day one, and you would still be jumping down my throat. No, Annabelle is ancient history.

[Actor - Lynette]

She's in the next room.

[Actor - Lynette's Husband]

How long do we have to be married, Lynette? How long until you actually trust me?

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

So here's the question I want to ask women here, because we've asked the question before in relationships, that if your husband or your boyfriend ever screwed around on you, did you ever fully, 100% trust him again? And you guys called up, and you. I mean, have said like 100% of you said never. Quite entirely, like, we might have gotten back together again. Our marriage survived, and things are okay, and things are actually great. But if he's just late, you know, by 30 seconds, I start thinking, okay, who's he Screwing around with. So the trust was never quite restored. So here's the question in listening to that clip that I have for you women, is that if at one point you used to be the other woman, so he was dating somebody else, saw you, was overwhelmed, and then started a relationship with you while he was still dating or married to somebody else, and then ended up dumping the current girlfriend for you, so you were the other woman, and things have worked out really well with you guys. Do you trust him 100% in your relationship? Because as Lynette says here, he's shown a pattern of infidelity. So do you ever fully, fully trust the guy you know?

[Co-host or Panelist]

Or were you just so special that it was destiny and then you were meant to be together despite the fact that someone else was there?

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Because here he's saying, I will. In your eyes, I will always be guilty of infidelity, even though you're the one I screwed around on. Now, I think if I'm him, I'm with. Yeah, I think if I'm him, it's pretty easy to turn it around also. Cause is she trustworthy?

[Co-host or Panelist]

She's the mistress. Yeah. She knew what she was getting into.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Too, so she ended up screwing around with a guy that was in a relationship also. So he could say the exact same thing. So how would you answer that?

[Co-host or Panelist]

I don't know. That's hard to tell, because you can't really blame somebody for something that they haven't done in your relationship. You know, you can't blame him for infidelity or be suspicious of activity that's never happened. But I wonder if that would always be nagging in your mind.

It would have to be.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

It's always got to be there, because.

[Co-host or Panelist]

To me, it's like a is. Some people would look at that as his character. If he. You know, if he cheated before, if it didn't mean much to him before, even if it was me or not me, then it's a character flaw in him.

I have thought about it in relationship to Britney Spears and Kevin Federline. Because, you know, Kevin wasn't married to his. To his children's mother, Char Jackson. They were just dating, but she was pregnant with his second child when he left her for Britney Spears. So I wonder, now that Britney's pregnant, does she, in the back of her mind, consistently worry that Kevin Federline's gonna leave her while she's pregnant? Because, you know what?

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

He did it before.

[Co-host or Panelist]

That's a great question.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Hey, Maryann.

[Caller or Guest]

Hi.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Good morning.

[Caller or Guest]

Good morning.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

What's up?

[Caller or Guest]

Nothing. I have a story of my own about this. My boyfriend of three years, we met while he was dating somebody else, and I never thought we were gonna end up together. I just thought, you know, he's really cute, so. And I knew about it. I knew about his girlfriend, and she moved away for a little while. He said he was gonna wait for her, but we ended up dating. And we're together till this day. But we always have, like, problems in our relationship just because of that, because I know that he did that, and he probably will do it again.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

So even though you're the one he left her for, it doesn't matter. There's still distrust there, that pattern of.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Behavior that what's her face is talking about. Lynette.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Mm. Hi. Thank you. Good morning, Anna. You're on all the hits. Q100.

[Caller or Guest]

Good morning. I wanted to let you guys know I had met a guy, and he left the other woman for me, and we're happily together, just like your last caller. But you always have a little, you know, if he's out or whatever, you always kind of wonder, because if he left somebody else for you, he could always leave you for somebody else.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Now, do you think. I mean, because I. And I want to ask you, since you were the other woman, do you feel like you're not as guilty as him because you weren't with somebody, even though you were the mistress and knew what you were doing?

Like, why.

Why should he trust you, too?

[Caller or Guest]

Oh, and we've talked about it, you know, And I'm like, well, we each have our own issues, and if you can put yours aside, I can put mine aside. It's hard. It's hard.

But, you know, I'm not that special.

That he might not up and leave me one day. You know? I mean, she thought she was pretty special, too, and then he left her. So you just never know. It's always kind of in the back of your mind.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Because to me, it's not necessarily a pattern of behavior, of cheating as it is being really attracted to something new. There's two levels there, you know, because you were the new thing. It was like, new and fresh and exciting. And he was so overwhelmed by that new, fresh, exciting thing that he took off and went to it. So then once you become kind of old, you know, old news, not as new, not as fresh, not as exciting or whatever, and a little bit more comfortable, a little bit more routine, is he gonna be attracted and up to the new, fresh, exciting thing to go, leave you for?

[Caller or Guest]

It keeps you on your toes. Definitely that's good.

[Co-host or Panelist]

That's the way healthy relationships should be. Everybody should be on edge.

Everybody should be paranoid, nervous all the time.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

So what does it say about you, though? I mean, what.

[Caller or Guest]

I don't know. I've struggled with that. It kind of goes back to the whole, you know, I've talked about it with my older sister, and, you know, she brings up the whole thing that I think Geller had on his show the other day. Is cheating kind of a hereditary thing. And that's a whole nother thing. You guys probably don't even want to open up on your show, but.

[Co-host or Panelist]

It.

[Caller or Guest]

Causes you to step back and look at yourself and, you know, yeah, I knew about the other woman. And, you know, I mean, I know other women feel like I do. Sometimes you just can't help it.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

I don't buy that. What do you mean, sometimes you just can't help it?

[Caller or Guest]

Well, he wasn't married. I mean, he was seeing someone else and they were having some problems. And, you know, yeah, maybe I shouldn't have been as attracted to him as I was. But I mean, what I'm saying is when you know you're attracted to somebody and you just. You can't help it, you give in.

[Co-host or Panelist]

To that is what you did, is you gave in. You can definitely control it. I mean, married people do it all the time. You control who you're attracted to and who you're not. You know, I mean, that's what it's about.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

And I don't think you can control that. I don't think you can control who you're attracted to. I think you make a decision on how you're gonna handle it.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Exactly. What, you know, whether you give in to those urges or not is what you can control.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Hey, Sally, you're on all the hits Q100.

[Caller or Guest]

Honey, be a little realistic. Obviously, every woman has her little insecurities and all her little issues with, you know, trusting a guy. It's just in general, even if that never even happened, any girl's gonna, like, you know, be a little hesitant to trusting her boyfriend. Like me. It happened to me also.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Wait, wait, wait.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Stop, stop.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Your basic premise is that every woman is nervous that her man is gonna cheat on her. So it doesn't.

[Caller or Guest]

It's always in the back of everybody's mind, even with a guy. Like, a girl could be, you know, the dog in the relationship. But with me, it happened when I first met me. My boyfriend bring together two and a half years now. When we first met, he never told me he had a Girlfriend, he was still with her. And we were talking for a month and we would be on the phone like all day, all night, so I don't even know when he had time for this girl. And, you know, we'd hang up the phone maybe like two, three hours out of the day, and then we'd be on the phone from like 8 o' clock at night till 6 in the morning. I had no clue he had a girlfriend. The thought never even crossed my mind. And then after a month, he told me, well, what would you say if I told you that I had a girlfriend? Are you the type of girl that, you know? And I was like, what the hell? I'm. You have a girlfriend? And he was like, kinda. It's been really bad for the last, you know, six months. So I don't really consider her my girlfriend. I was like, well, have you broken up with her yet?

And he said no.

[Co-host or Panelist]

And you stayed with him?

[Caller or Guest]

What was that?

[Co-host or Panelist]

And you stayed with him.

[Caller or Guest]

You know what, that's, that's my biggest regret. Because if I would have known how I was still gonna feel till this day, two and a half years later about that situation, I would have never, never, ever, ever put myself through the hell that I've been through the past two and a half years. Because it stays on my mind constantly. I'm always thinking that he's cheating on me. And now my situation is even worse.

Because he has to go out of.

Town and he only comes to see me, you know, every weekend. He has to drive down a three hour drive to come see me every weekend. And I have no trust for him and it's so hard for me. So I advise every girl out there that is in a situation to get out of it as soon as possible because you never get over and it puts you through hell. Do you think relationships not gonna last because you're gonna be annoyed and not trusting him the whole time? And it's always gonna be in the back of your mind, right?

[Co-host or Panelist]

Because it goes kind of back what the last caller said about you can't help it. I mean, you. I agree with Bert. I don't think you can help who you're attracted to. And those can be extremely powerful feelings. But you have to see through that. I mean, like for her, her regret, like if you know someone who's not emotionally attached to somebody, if they said, are you the kind of girl that minds if I'm dating somebody? Like, all of us in here wince like, well, what a jerk. But I mean, obviously if you're in Love with him, then you're, oh, well, you know, you want it. You'll do anything to stay with them.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Sally, if the basis for any healthy relationship, let's assume, is trust, and you don't have it with this guy, then why are you in the relationship for so long?

[Caller or Guest]

You know what? That's what I ask myself every day. And I've been going through so much crap lately, and it's killing me inside. And there's. I don't even know what to do now. You know, it's hell. I mean, we've been going through problems the past couple weeks that he's been absolutely disrespecting me. And it's not only a trust factor now, it's. Now it's disrespect and the trust factor. So I don't even know what to do. I'm extremely confused at this point. And, I mean, I have nowhere to turn because I didn't move to Atlanta that long ago. And I have no friends, nobody to get me away from. From him. And my mind is constantly on him all the time. So I have to find something to do to get my mind off of him, to, you know, just so I can move on, because it just. I know it's not going to work out, the trust issues, too.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Do you. Do you have children with this man?

[Caller or Guest]

No.

No.

[Co-host or Panelist]

No children with this man. And you're not engaged to him?

[Caller or Guest]

I'm sorry, what was that?

[Co-host or Panelist]

Are you engaged to him?

[Caller or Guest]

He wants to come speak with my father. Because where I'm from, it's like a respectful thing to come speak to the dad first and then get his approval and then give me a ring. Supposedly at the end of this month, he wants to talk to my father.

[Co-host or Panelist]

But that's where everybody's from, honey. That's a respectful thing for everybody to do. But I think that you need to think about that before he makes that journey to see your father and propose the ring and all that other st. You gotta have a lot more respect for yourself than that.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

I mean, you're going into this relationship, you marry this guy, you know it's gonna end up in a divorce, right?

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah.

I mean, I feel like such a loser because I don't know what to do and I don't know how to move on and get over him.

[Co-host or Panelist]

It's okay to leave. I mean, the thing is, I think it's so funny how. And you know, I've done the same thing. You are in such turmoil, and you say your life is hell. Well, you know what if you left. It might get better because obviously where you are is not working.

[Caller or Guest]

I just keep giving myself excuses like, you know, I can't leave because I'm so lonely.

[Co-host or Panelist]

You just leave. Just leave. Like, to me, like, you know, instead of over, you know, like, just leave.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Be lonely for a little while.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Yeah.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

I mean, is the hell of being alone worse than what you're going through with this guy?

[Caller or Guest]

Probably not. But, you know, it's. My situation, I feel, is a little different because I don't. I work 24 7. I have no friends. I have nothing to do. You know, my parents are, you know, really, really strict. So, I mean, I'm 20 years old and I can't do anything without, you know.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Can I tell you.

Can I tell you why you have no friends is probably. I mean, you don't work 24 hours a day. What you do is you work a lot in every single moment you spend away from work and sometimes during work is obsessing over this guy and pleasing this guy. If you're single and you have time and you take control of your life, guess what? You get friends and you get true friends.

[Caller or Guest]

I have not slept in about four days. And the bags under my eyes. I mean, I look sick. Everyone keeps asking me, you know, are you sick? Are you okay?

[Co-host or Panelist]

Do you realize what you're. Do you hear yourself? I mean, the thing is, you're just. You're Just leave.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

He doesn't have any respect for you because you're not respecting yourself. You're not taking care of yourself.

[Caller or Guest]

I know that you can do it.

[Co-host or Panelist]

You can so do it.

It's okay. I mean, 20 years old, you got.

Your whole life ahead of you, and somebody's going to be head over heels in love with you and have absolutely no doubt in their mind they want to be with you.

Yeah. It's okay. I mean, really, it. Once you leave, it's not. Your life's not going to fall apart. The problem is your life's falling apart now.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

So it's so hard to be strong in it.

[Caller or Guest]

Extremely hard.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

I mean, so easy to be.

[Caller or Guest]

At this point, I'm not even sure if it's. It's real love or if I'm just used to him and I just really want to just get over him. I want something to happen. I want to, like, be put in a coma or something just so I can forget this guy ever existed.

[Co-host or Panelist]

You know what? This. This is a part of life, you know? And the thing is, like, if you.

You.

You have to learn that if you're even questioning whether it's real love, then it's not like you really don't love this guy.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Panelist]

I mean, and it's okay to be single, and it's okay to go make new friends, and it's okay to go hang out with new people. It's okay.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

And you know what? Like, everybody's been there. Like, I remember being so insecure when I was with women, thinking, well, if I leave her, nobody's gonna dig me as much as she does. There's no way I'm ever gonna find somebody else like that. And I look back at it now and I kind of laugh at it, because there's.

[Co-host or Panelist]

There is.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

There's a million people out there that are gonna dig you, you know?

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Yeah. Ladies, don't let the fear of being alone be the reason that you stay in a terrible relationship, because that's not what relationships should be about.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Look at Melissa. She's been alone for almost a year now.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

And have you heard a happier person than Melissa Carter?

[Co-host or Panelist]

No.

She's, like, living in the munching land, living the dream.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Hey, good luck.

[Caller or Guest]

Thanks.

Thanks for the advice, guys. I love you guys.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

All right, bye. Bye.

[Caller or Guest]

All right, bye.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

It sucks, doesn't it?

[Co-host or Panelist]

Yeah, that was really Sad.

Remember being 20? Oh, that was a stressful time.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

It just, like, so learning about yourself and you're willing to put up with so much crap, you know? But I think you gotta go through these. That inevitably gets you to be, like, the strong person, strong man, strong woman that you get to be. But getting through this stuff, it sucks.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Sucks.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Bleh. That's my universal this sucks sound. Bleh. Hello, Jackie.

[Caller or Guest]

Hello.

[Progressive Insurance Announcer]

How are y'?

[Co-host or Panelist]

All? He turns it around.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

How are you?

[Caller or Guest]

Good. I love you guys.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Thank you.

[Caller or Guest]

I've been in this situation, been in this exact situation.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

And this situation we're talking about getting back to the Desperate Housewives thing, is being the other woman. And then he leaves the one he's currently with. You end up being the woman. Do you ever really have, like, 100% trust in the guy?

[Caller or Guest]

Oh, yeah. Because I was stupid. I mean, I was just absolutely stupid. And then we ended up. It was a great relationship. We stayed married eight years, and then at the end of the eight years, we were separated and divorced for 60 days. And on the 62nd day, he remarried the woman that he was with, and he met me.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Wow.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Okay, let me get the scorecard straight here. So he's married. He meets you, falls head over heels for you, drops his wife, ends up with you. Married, then divorces you for his first wife.

[Caller or Guest]

Absolutely. But his.

Him. His.

He and his first wife have been separated for two months. When we met, he was living completely apart from her and had already filed.

For divorce from her.

You know, it was over. And then, you know, it was, oh, my God, you know, we're soulmates, you know, and it really felt like that.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

So your angle is. Yeah, you trusted him, but you shouldn't have.

[Caller or Guest]

Exactly. Exactly. Because like I said, two days after my divorce was final, he remarried her.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Can you imagine living in that guy's head where the grass is always greener on the other side? He's like, well, it really sucks now, so I'm gonna get out and go over here. Well, this really sucks, too. So I'm gonna.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

I mean, I think a lot of people live their life that way, but.

[Co-host or Panelist]

The difference with him, he's never alone. You know what? He always got what he wanted.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

The Burt Show. So Desperate Housewives this weekend. Oh, that was a good one. Sunday was a really good one.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Every single show is a good one. It's my only appointment television. I love Desperate Housewives.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

It seems like in this episode, like, every storyline, we got some nugget of information out that we didn't know before, you know, and the storyline with Lynette and her husband Tom, I thought was a really interesting one. A really interesting one with a lot of interesting questions involved in it also.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Well, we found out this last episode that Tom started dating Lynette when he was cheating on his girlfriend Annabelle. So Tom and this woman Annabelle are dating. He cheats on Annabelle with Lynette, ends up marrying Lynette. Now, so far, we don't know about any infidelity. Lynette knows about no infidelity with her husband Tom, but she finds out in this episode that Tom has just rehired Annabelle at his company and did not tell Lynette about it for three months. So in Lynette's little diabolical plan is, you know, the whole cliche of keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer. She invites Annabelle over for dinner, and.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Then she starts doing all sorts of ridiculous things to prove to the ex girlfriend that their marriage is really, really strong. And her husband is like, this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

[Actor - Lynette's Husband]

So this is quite a show you put on tonight. Show the boys, paintings, all those references to how happy we are.

[Actor - Lynette]

What's wrong with subtly reminding Annabelle that you're happily married?

[Actor - Lynette's Husband]

Because it wasn't subtle, and it's an insult to me.

[Actor - Lynette]

I Did not mean it that way.

[Actor - Lynette's Husband]

Are you so insecure that you have to pull that crap?

[Actor - Lynette]

Keep your voice down.

[Actor - Lynette's Husband]

It doesn't matter. She has feelings for me as long as I am not interested. Have I ever, ever given you any reason to doubt me?

[Actor - Lynette]

Anyone is capable of anything. The first time we ever met, you were cheating. With you?

[Actor - Lynette's Husband]

Cheating with you?

[Actor - Lynette]

It's a pattern of behavior.

[Actor - Lynette's Husband]

Oh, give me a break.

[Actor - Lynette]

Well, what am I supposed to do? You hire your old girlfriend and you don't tell me about it for three months.

[Actor - Lynette's Husband]

I could have told you from day one, and you would still be jumping down my throat. No, Annabelle is ancient history.

[Actor - Lynette]

She's in the next room.

[Actor - Lynette's Husband]

How long do we have to be married, Lynette? How long until you actually trust me?

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

So here's the question I want to ask women here, because we've asked the question before in relationships, that if your husband or your boyfriend ever screwed around on you, did you ever fully, 100% trust him again? And you guys called up and you. I mean, have said like 100% of. You said never quite entirely. Like, we might have gotten back together again. Our marriage survived, and things are okay, and things are actually great. But if he's just late, you know, by 30 seconds, I start thinking, okay, who's he screwing around with? So the trust was never quite restored. So here's the question, in listening to that clip that I have for you women, is that if at one point, you used to be the other woman, so he was dating somebody else, saw you, was overwhelmed, and then started a relationship with you while he was still dating or married to somebody else, and then ended up dumping the current girlfriend for you, so you were the other woman, and things have worked out really well with you guys. Do you trust him 100% in your relationship? Because as Lynette says here, he's shown a pattern of infidelity. So do you ever fully, fully trust the guy you know?

[Co-host or Panelist]

Or were you just so special that it was destiny and then you were meant to be together despite the fact that someone else was there?

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Because here he's saying, I will. In your eyes, I will always be guilty of infidelity, even though you're the one I screwed around on. Now, I think if I'm him, I'm with. Yeah, I think if I'm him, it's pretty easy to turn it around. Also, because is she trustworthy?

[Co-host or Panelist]

She's the mistress. Yeah. She knew what she was getting into.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Too, so she ended up screwing around with a guy that was in a relationship also. So he could say the exact same thing. So how would you answer that?

[Co-host or Panelist]

I don't know. That's hard to tell because you can't really blame somebody for something that they haven't done in your relationship. You know, they, you know, you can't blame him for infidelity or be suspicious of activity that's never happened. But I wonder if that would always be nagging in your mind.

It would have to be.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

It's always gotta be there.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Cause to me, it's like a is some people would look at that as his character. If he, you know, if he cheated before, if it didn't mean much to him before, even if it was me or not me, then it's a character flaw in him.

I have thought about it in relationship to Britney Spears and Kevin Federline. Because, you know, Kevin wasn't married to his. To his children's mother, Char Jackson. They were just dating, but she was pregnant with his second child when he left her for Britney Spears. So I wonder, now that Britney's pregnant, does she, in the back of her mind, consistently worry that Kevin Federline gonna leave her while she's pregnant? Because you know what?

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

He did it before.

[Co-host or Panelist]

That's a great question.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Hey, Maryanne.

[Caller or Guest]

Hi.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Good morning.

[Caller or Guest]

Good morning.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

What's up?

[Caller or Guest]

Nothing. I have a story of my own about this. My boyfriend of three years, we met while he was dating somebody else. And I never thought we were gonna end up together. I just thought, you know, he's really cute. So. And I knew about it. I knew about his girlfriend, and she moved away for a little while. He said he was gonna wait for her, but we ended up dating. And we're together till this day. But we always have, like, problems in our relationship just because of that, because I know that he did that, and he probably will do it again.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

So even though you're the one he left her for, it doesn't matter. There's still distrust there, that pattern of.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Behavior that what's her face is talking about. Lynette.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Mm. Thank you. Good morning, Anna. You're on all the hits. Q100.

[Caller or Guest]

Good morning. I wanted to let you guys know I had met a guy and he left the other woman for me. And we're happily together, just like your last caller. But you always have a little, you know, if he's out or whatever, you always kind of wonder because if he left somebody else for you, he could always leave you for somebody else.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Now do you think? I mean, because I, and I want to ask you, since you were the other woman, do you feel like you're not as guilty as him because you weren't with somebody, even though you were the mistress and knew what you were doing? Like, why. Why should he trust you, too?

[Caller or Guest]

Oh, and we've talked about it, you know, and I'm like, well, we each have our own issues, and if you can put yours aside, I can put mine aside. It's hard. It's hard. But, you know, I'm not that special that he might not up and leave me one day. You know, I mean, she thought she was pretty special, too, and then he left her. So you just never know. It's always kind of in the back of your mind.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Because to me, it's not necessarily a pattern of behavior of cheating as it is being really attracted to something new. There's two levels there, you know, because you were the new thing. It was like new and fresh and exciting. And he was so overwhelmed by that new, fresh, exciting thing that he took off and went to it. So then once you become kind of old, you know, old news, not as new, not as fresh, not as exciting or whatever, and a little bit more comfortable, a little bit more routine, is he gonna be attracted enough to the new, fresh, exciting thing to go leave you for?

[Caller or Guest]

It keeps you on your toes. Definitely.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Well, it's good. That's the way a healthy relationship should be. Everybody should be on edge.

Everybody should be, apparently nervous all the time.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

So what does it say about you, though? I mean, what.

[Caller or Guest]

I don't know. I've struggled with that. It kind of. Kind of goes back to the whole. You know, I've talked about it with my older sister, and, you know, she brings up the whole thing that I think Geller had on his show the other day. Is cheating kind of a hereditary thing. And that's a whole nother thing. You guys probably don't even want to open up on your show. But you need that heavy stuff together. It causes you to step back and look at yourself and, you know, yeah, I knew about the other woman. And, you know, I mean, I know other women feel like I do. Sometimes you just can't help it.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

I don't buy that. What do you mean, sometimes you just can't help it?

[Caller or Guest]

Well, he wasn't married. I mean, he was seeing someone else, and they were having some problems. And, you know, yeah, maybe I shouldn't have been as attracted to him as I was. But, I mean, what I'm saying is, when you know you're attracted to somebody and you just. You can't help it, you give in.

[Co-host or Panelist]

To that is what you did is you gave it. You can definitely control it. I mean, married people do it all the time. You control who you're attracted to and who you're not. You know, I mean, that's what it's about.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

And I don't think you can control that. I don't think you can control who you're attracted to. I think you make a decision on how you're gonna handle it.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Exactly. Whether you give in to those urges or not is what you can control. Control.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Hey, Sally, you're on all the hits Q100.

[Caller or Guest]

Bert, honey, be a little realistic. Obviously, every woman has her little insecurities and all her little issues with, you know, trusting a guy. It's just in general, even if that never even happened, any girl's gonna like, you know, be a little hesitant to trusting her boyfriend. Like me. It happened to me also.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Wait, wait, wait, stop, stop. Your basic premise is that every woman is nervous that her man is gonna cheat on her. So it doesn't.

[Caller or Guest]

It's always in the back of everybody's mind, even with a guy. Like a girl could be, you know, the dog in the relationship. But with me, it happened when I first met me, my boyfriend bringing together.

Two and a half years.

Now, when we first met, he never told me he had a girlfriend. He was still with her and we were talking for a month and we would be on the phone like all day, all night, so I don't even know when he had time for this girl. And, you know, we'd hang up the phone maybe like two, three hours out of the day. And then we'd be on the phone from like 8 o' clock at night till 6 in the morning. I had no clue he had a girlfriend. That the thought never even crossed my mind. And then after a month, he told me, well, what would you say if I told you that I had a girlfriend? Are you the type of girl that, you know, this and that? And I was like, what the hell? You have a girlfriend? And he was like, kinda. It's been really bad for the last, you know, six months. So I don't really consider her my girlfriend. I was like, well, have you broken up with her yet?

And he said no.

[Co-host or Panelist]

And you stayed with him.

[Caller or Guest]

What was that?

[Co-host or Panelist]

And you stayed with him.

[Caller or Guest]

You know what? That's my biggest regret. Because if I would have known how I was still going to feel till this day, two and a half years later about that situation, I would have never, never, ever, ever put myself through the hell that I've been through the past two and a half years because it stays on my mind constantly. I'm always thinking that he's cheating on me. And now my situation is even worse.

Because he has to go out of.

Town and he only comes to see me, you know, every weekend. He has to drive down a three hour drive to come see me every weekend. And I have no trust for him and it's so hard for me. So I advise every girl out there that is in a situation to get out of it as soon as possible because you never get over it and it puts you through hell. Do you think relationship's not going to last because you're going to be annoyed and not trusting him the whole time? And it's always going to be in the back of your mind, right?

[Co-host or Panelist]

Because it goes kind of back. What the last caller said about you can't help it. I mean, I agree with Bert. I don't think you can help who you're attracted to and those can be extremely powerful feelings. But you have to see through that. I mean, like for her, her regret, like if, if you know someone who's not emotionally attached to somebody, if they said, are you the kind of girl that minds if I'm dating somebody? Like all of us in here wince like, well, what a jerk. But I mean, obviously if you're in love with him, then you're, oh, well, you know, you wouldn't, you'll do anything to stay with them.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Sally, if the, the basis for any healthy relationship, let's assume, is trust and you don't have it with this guy, then why are you in the relationship for so long?

[Caller or Guest]

You know what?

That's what I ask myself every day. And I've been going through so much crap lately and it's, it's killing me inside. And there's, I don't even know what to do now. You know, it's, it's hell. I mean, we've been going through problems the past couple weeks that he's been absolutely disrespecting me. And it's not only a trust factor now, it's. Now it's disrespect and the trust factor. So I don't even know what to do. I'm extremely confused at this point. And I mean, I have nowhere to turn because I didn't move to Atlanta that long ago and I have no friends, nobody to get me away from. And my mind is constantly on him all the time. So I have to find something to do to get my mind off of him. To you Know, just so I can move on, because it just. I know it's not gonna work out. The trust issue's too long and.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Do you have children with this man? No, no. No children with this man. And you're not engaged to him?

[Caller or Guest]

I'm sorry, what was that?

[Co-host or Panelist]

Are you engaged to him?

[Caller or Guest]

He wants to come speak with my father. Because where I'm from, it's like a respectful thing to come speak to the dad first and then get his approval and then give me a ring. Supposedly at the end of this month, he wants to talk to my father.

[Co-host or Panelist]

But that's where everybody's from, honey. That's a respectful thing for everybody to do. But I think that you need to think about that before he makes that journey to see your father and propose the ring and all that other stuff. You gotta have a lot more respect for yourself than that.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

I mean, you're going into this relationship, you marry this guy, you know it's gonna end up in a divorce, right?

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah.

I mean, I feel like such a loser because I don't know what to do, and I don't know how to move on and start to get over him.

[Co-host or Panelist]

It's okay to leave. I mean, the thing is, I think it's so funny how. And. And, you know, I've done the same thing. You are in such turmoil and you're. You say your life is hell. Well, you know what? If you left, it might get better because obviously where you are is not working.

[Caller or Guest]

I just keep giving myself excuses, like, you know, I just leave because I'm so lonely.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Just leave. Just leave. Like, to me, like, you know, instead of over, you know, like, just leave.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Be lonely for a little while.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Yeah.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

I mean, is the hell of being alone worse than what you're going through with this guy?

[Caller or Guest]

Probably not. But, you know, it's. My situation, I feel is a little different because I don't. I work 24 7. I have no friends. I have nothing to do. You know, my parents are, you know, really, really strict. So, I mean, I'm 20 years old and I can't do anything without.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Can I tell you.

Can I tell you why you have no friends is probably. I mean, you don't work 24 hours a day. What you do is you work a lot in every single moment you spend away from work and sometimes during work is obsessing over this guy and pleasing this guy. If you're single and you have time and you take control of your life, guess what? You get friends and you get three friends.

[Caller or Guest]

I have.

I have not Slept in about four days. And the bags under my eyes. I mean, I look sick. Everyone keeps asking me, you know, are you sick? Are you okay?

[Co-host or Panelist]

Do you realize what you're. Do you hear yourself? I mean, the thing is, you're just. You're Just leave.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

He doesn't have any respect for you because you're not respecting yourself. You're not. You're not taking care of yourself.

[Caller or Guest]

I know that you can do it.

[Co-host or Panelist]

You can so do it.

It's okay. I mean, 20 years old, you got.

Your whole life ahead of you, and somebody's gonna be head over heels in love with you and have absolutely no doubt in their mind they want to be with you.

Yeah, it's okay. I mean, really, it. Once you leave, it's not. Your life's not gonna fall apart. The problem is your life's falling apart now because you'll.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

So it's so hard to be strong, isn't it?

[Caller or Guest]

Extremely hard.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

I mean, so easy to be.

[Caller or Guest]

At this point, I'm not even sure if it's real love or if I'm just used to him. And I just really. I want to just get over him. I want something to happen. I want to, like, be put in a coma or something just so I can forget this guy ever existed in my life.

[Co-host or Panelist]

You know what? This. This is a part of life, you know? And the thing is, like, if you.

You.

You have to learn that if you're even questioning whether it's real love, then it's not. You know, like, you really don't love this guy.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Panelist]

I mean, and it's okay to be single, and it's okay to go make new friends, and it's okay to go hang out with new people. It's okay.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

And you know what? Like, everybody's been there. Like, I remember being so ins. Insecure when I was with women, thinking, well, if I leave her, nobody's gonna dig me as much as she does. There's no way I'm ever gonna find somebody else like that. And I look back at it now, and I kind of laugh at it, because there's.

[Co-host or Panelist]

There is.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

There's a million people out there that are gonna dig you, you know?

[Co-host or Panelist]

Yeah. Yeah. Ladies, don't let the fear of being alone be the reason that you stay in a terrible relationship, because that's not what relationships should be about.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Look at Melissa. She's been alone for. For almost a year now.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

And have you heard a happier person than Melissa Carter?

[Co-host or Panelist]

No.

She's like. She's, like, living in the munchkin Land.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Living the dream.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Hey.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Hey. Good luck.

[Caller or Guest]

Thanks.

Thanks for the advice, guys.

I love you guys.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

All right, bye. Bye.

[Caller or Guest]

All right, bye.

[Co-host or Panelist]

I'm so sad for her.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

It sucks, doesn't it?

[Co-host or Panelist]

Yeah, that was really, really Sad.

Remember being 20? Oh, it was a stressful time.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

You're just, like, so learning about yourself, and you're willing to put up with so much crap, you know? But I think you got to go through these. That inevitably gets you to be, like, the strong person, strong man, strong woman that you get to be. But getting through this stuff, it sucks.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Sucks.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

That's my universal this sucks sound. Bleh. Hello, Jackie.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Hello. How are y'?

All?

He turns it around.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

How are you?

[Caller or Guest]

Good. I love you guys.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Thank you.

[Caller or Guest]

I've been in this situation, been in this exact situation, and the situation we're.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Talking about, getting back to the Desperate Housewives thing, is being the other woman. And then he leaves the one he's currently with. You end up being the woman. Do you ever really have, like, 100% trust in the guy?

[Caller or Guest]

Oh, yeah, because I was stupid.

I mean, I was just absolutely stupid. And then we ended. It was a great relationship. We stayed married eight years, and then at the end of the eight years, we were separated and divorced for 60 days. And on the 62nd day, he remarried the woman that he was with, and he met me.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

Wow. Okay, let me get the scorecard straight here. So he's married, he meets you, falls head over heels for you, drops his wife, ends up with you married, then divorces you for his first wife.

[Caller or Guest]

Absolutely. But he and his first wife have been separated for two months. When we met, he was living completely apart from her and had already filed.

For divorce from her.

You know, it was over. And then, you know, it was, oh, my God, you know, we're soulmates, you know, and it really felt like that.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

So your angle is. Yeah, you trusted him, but you shouldn't have.

[Caller or Guest]

Exactly. Exactly. Because like I said, two days after my divorce was final, he remarried her.

[Co-host or Panelist]

Can you imagine living in that guy's head where the grass is always greener on the other side? He's like, well, it really sucks now, so I'm gonna get out and go over here. Well, this really sucks too. So I'm.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

I think a lot of people live their life that way, but the difference.

[Co-host or Panelist]

With him is he's never alone. You know what? He always got what he wanted.

[Host - Possibly 'Burt' or 'Birch']

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