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Spin Quest is a free to play social casino void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. The Birch Show Whitney called us three weeks ago and she lives in a townhouse community in Decatur and she wanted to use our show because she's just curious. There's a guy that pulls up to her townhouse community every single day. He's there for five minutes, walks behind the townhomes, goes into one of the townhouses and then leaves. He's there for five minutes, in and out and gone. She's been watching this guy for months and wants to know who he is. So we got on the case and we've been trying to track and find this guy. It's taken us three weeks. We're no closer today than we were three weeks ago.
Wendy
We're even more confused, but we're having fun.
Bert Weiss
But we still don't have any answers. So we're gonna see if we can get you guys up to speed here, and maybe you guys will have a different take on the whole thing. So we'll. We'll just. It's gonna take us a while, right? It really is, because this is three weeks in the making here.
Melissa
Yes.
Bert Weiss
And it doesn't make logical sense to get you guys caught up at this point because it's just gone on for so long and there've been so many small details over the last three weeks, but it's such a good storyline that I think if we present it to you guys correctly, you'll be as invested as we are late in the show.
Melissa
Also, it's almost like being a late comer to Lost. You know, we're having to catch you up on this show that is so confusing, but it's so intriguing at the same time.
Bert Weiss
And we have no answers. So my thought here is that because we're doing this late in the show and we're three weeks into it and we're no closer to an answer, that maybe if we run this by you guys, somebody listening will have a different perspective on it.
Wendy
Right.
Bert Weiss
All right, fresh eyes, Fresh eyes. All right, we're gonna be here a while, people. Here we go.
Wendy
Stretch it out.
Bert Weiss
So everybody knows that we have this segment that we do called I'm just curious. And it could be anything. If you're curious about anything in your neighborhood, in your office, but you're too sort of scared to research it yourself, you call us. We'll do the hard work for you, and we'll get answers. It's exactly what happened with Whitney when she called us three weeks ago.
Whitney
First of all, I live in a gated townhome community, so he obviously knows the code to get in here every day. And he comes in about 9:45 every day, and it's just Monday through Friday, on the weekends, just throughout the week. So he just, like, it's really odd. He drives the same car parked in the same parking spot. And he pretty much gets out of his car. Sometimes he'll grab something out of the trunk or the backseat. And then he walks behind the townhomes, like, and goes in the back door. One of the townhomes in there, he stays in. And when he's walking down there, he's also looking around to see if anyone's looking at him, like, kind of curious. And then he goes in the townhome. He goes in for about four or five minutes and comes back out, goes to his Car and then drives away.
Melissa
Every day?
Whitney
Every day, same time, like on the dot.
Bert Weiss
What part of town is this in?
Whitney
I live in Decatur.
Bert Weiss
Okay, so he goes behind all the townhomes and for you, it just feels like he's just a little bit nervous that he's back there. And then. Did you say he goes into one of the homes every morning?
Whitney
Goes into one of the homes? Yeah.
Melissa
And stays there only for a few minutes and then leaves.
Whitney
I mean, I've timed him before. It's usually about five minutes, and he needs no longer than five minutes.
Wendy
Do you know the neighbor of the townhouse that he goes into?
Whitney
I don't. I haven't met them. So I don't know if, you know, maybe they're bringing it out or.
Colin
Do you know who lives there?
Melissa
Is it a single person? Is it a couple or a family?
Whitney
I'm not sure. We have a lot of families in here. It's really nice townhouse area.
Bert Weiss
All right, so that was the very first time we talked. Her calls start flooding in on who this guy might be. He's probably a security guard that's been hired by the townhouse community. It's a drug deal going down. Every day it's a real estate agent checking out their property. I mean, one after the other, the
Jeff
theories start flooding everybody based on limited information. Everybody knows the answer.
Melissa
Right.
Jeff
People, even as random as we, just think he likes to take a poop in private. So he stops every day on his way to work.
Melissa
That's right.
Colin
That's right.
Jeff
He's got a key to that house. He goes there, poops, leaves.
Bert Weiss
So same day we talked to her, we say, look, let's talk to you again at the usual time that this dude's supposed to show up and see if he's there today also. And that's what happened on the first day we talked to her.
Whitney
No, he's here right now.
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He is?
Wendy
Oh, nice.
Melissa
Okay.
Bert Weiss
He is. So he pulled up, same spot, parked the BMW.
Whitney
It was about 9:43 this morning. I mean. I mean, he's pretty much on the dot every day. Wow.
Melissa
It's part of his day.
Whitney
He's there right now. He got out of the car and this is weird. Like the last couple days, you know, the weather's been nice outside. He's been putting a leather coat on like he's had in the past. He's been doing all winter. He put his jacket on. When he got out of the car, he put his jacket on and then has his hands, like, in his pockets and is walking he walked down there, went behind there. He's still there right now.
Bert Weiss
So he has his hands in his pants pocket or in the jacket pocket?
Whitney
In the jacket pocket.
Bert Weiss
I have no idea why that was important.
Whitney
Maybe he's like, I don't know if it's the whole drug deal thing, and maybe he's bringing it down there. I don't know. But he just always seems to have a jacket. I just seen with the weather so nice, it just seems kind of odd.
Melissa
I think now we're looking for things, you know. Oh, it's weird. He's got a leather jacket on.
Whitney
He's walking back to his car right now, and the jacket's off.
Melissa
The jackets all.
Bert Weiss
So he got there at 9:43. It's now 9:48. Like, and you told us this morning, five minutes.
Colin
He's in.
Bert Weiss
He's. Did he go inside the house?
Wendy
Follow the car.
Melissa
Follow the car.
Bert Weiss
He went inside the house today, that townhouse?
Whitney
Yeah. Well, I mean, I couldn't. I couldn't go down to see exactly. But, I mean, I know he goes
Melissa
down there, and he doesn't have his leather jacket on. Going back to the house or car.
Whitney
He just put in his car. And now he's getting in, and he's about to drive away.
Bert Weiss
How old do you think he is?
Whitney
He looks like he's in his 30s.
Bert Weiss
Okay, so that's day number one right there. Now the table is set for us.
Melissa
Right?
Wendy
Right.
Bert Weiss
So we have a staff member here named Frankie, and we call him up and we're like, frankie, can you help us out with this? We got Whitney here. She's really curious who this dude is in the townhouse community. Can you just run down there tomorrow during the show and pretend like you're walking behind the townhouse community? You know, try to get some answers for us? Okay.
Jeff
That was the best call that we ever made ever in the history of
Bert Weiss
this show, is having Frankie part of this whole thing, because he's done a great job.
Wendy
He's like a private eye.
Melissa
Now.
Jeff
Frankie signed up for the deluxe package.
Wendy
Oh.
Melissa
But let's not get. Let's not get ahead of ourselves, people.
Bert Weiss
That's right.
Wendy
Okay.
Melissa
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. We're catching people off. Sorry.
Bert Weiss
So we send Frankie down there at the same time that the dude is supposed to show up. It's the very next day. Okay.
Wendy
Okay.
Whitney
He showed up, kind of, like, made a U turn and left. So we're kind of wondering what he's doing.
Jeff
Have you sent Frankie out to locate
Whitney
the fella Frankie's right here next to me. We're kind of like, we're kind of confused with what's happening.
Melissa
Did he turn around because of any. Like, was Frankie outside or did he turn around on his own before Frankie had a chance to get.
Whitney
No, we were inside and I saw him pull up and I was like, that's him. But he never went in the parking spot that he normally parks in.
Bert Weiss
So on all the day, all the day for the last couple of months that you've been watching this guy, he's never pulled a U turn before?
Whitney
Never. Never ever.
Jeff
So do you think he did? Do you think he's listening or heard about it and he's like, you know what, I'm going to do something a little bit different today and see if they talk about it.
Melissa
Or he figured out it was him
Jeff
so I can confirm it's me. Yeah, because if he knew, if he was 100% sure, he just wouldn't show up. But if he wanted to confirm it, he would just have to do something weird.
Melissa
And all he has to do is call us voice disguiser and just tell us what he's doing.
Bert Weiss
Well, unless it really was like a drug related thing or something that's under
Melissa
the table, Voice disguiser just let us know and then the calls are going
Bert Weiss
to show up at the sound.
Jeff
That's not gonna work unless we're getting 500 calls right now from people going, hello, I'm in the voice disguiser. I was the person up there. I made the U turn because I was just feeding my pit.
Colin
Click.
Jeff
Play your trombone.
Bert Weiss
So I mean, what are the chances of the dude actually being a listener at that time? And you said the dude was like in his late 40s, early 50s or something like that?
Whitney
I would say like late 30s, late 30s maybe.
Wendy
Did Frankie park in his parking spot?
Whitney
No.
Wendy
That got a chuckle.
Bert Weiss
You really need to watch Frankie very, very carefully in your house. Will you put Frank on real quick?
Whitney
Yeah.
Colin
Hello?
Bert Weiss
Dude, how did you totally mess this up?
Colin
Frankie's on the covers blown. I knew I shouldn't have taken the Q100 vehicle.
Jeff
No, you didn't.
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Wow.
Bert Weiss
So the dude just pulls in and then pulls a ue, huh? Hold on.
Colin
So pulled up, she's like, I know that's his car. And he all. He just. He didn't even stay in the parking spot for a second and then turned around and went back the other way. So I walked out and just walked around the neighborhood and I didn't see any car. And then as soon as I came up grass. She said she saw him pull out.
Bert Weiss
Well, now I'm even more curious.
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Melissa
So he pulled into the spot but didn't stay.
Colin
Yeah, he didn't stay at all. Like he didn't even. It was weird.
Bert Weiss
Okay, so on day number two there dude that normally walks around the Town homes, for whatever reason on this day, decides to pull a uey. And we've just sort of convinced ourselves that it must be a listener, right? So the following day, we send Frankie back down there, and Frankie actually has a conversation with this guy. So now he's behind the townhouse community, and he runs into this guy. And this has taken place now over the course of a week, Right?
Colin
So he pulled in at 9:45 on the dot, just like every. Every day. M. I waited till he walked behind the house, and then I got out, and because it was raining, I had an umbrella. So I pretended I was looking at the front of the townhouses where he parked. And when he came back up, I, you know, asked him. I was like, excuse me, do you live here? And he said, yes. He said he lives in the neighborhood. And I was like. I was looking for a. To buy a townhome in this area and was wondering if, you know, if there are any townhomes here for sale. And he said. He said, yeah, I think so. But he wasn't sure which ones were available or which, you know, which ones were vacant or not. And so I kept drilling him with the questions, trying to figure out who he was, why he was there, but it pretty much stopped it. He wasn't a real estate agent because if I said I was looking for a home, then, you know, you would think that he would say that, oh, I'm a real estate agent. Here's my car. Nothing like that. He was kind of stand buffish and kind of. Kind of shady about the whole thing.
Whitney
Mm.
Colin
And so we had our conversation. That was pretty much the end of it. And after he left, I walked by the house that he walks into, and there is a real estate lockbox on the front door.
Jeff
What?
Colin
Yes.
Melissa
Weird.
Jeff
So he's not a real estate agent. There's no houses for sale yet. The house he goes into has lockbox
Wendy
on it, which explain why he went through the back, but not why he went.
Colin
The whole thing was just weird. So it's really. It's really bugging me. So I have planned. I'm gonna plan to do a stakeout this weekend and find out if it's just a Monday through Friday or whatever. And I'm gonna find out about the house and everything else, and hopefully I'll have more information for you guys when that gets done.
Bert Weiss
So he goes to this townhouse community and, like, lays in the weeds for a weekend.
Melissa
I love how Frankie got so into this. It's almost like it was a personal. I don't know quest for him to figure this out.
Bert Weiss
It's ridiculous how invested we all are in this thing. But we need answers now. Good morning, Debbie. You are on the Burt Show. Hello.
Colin
Hello.
Whitney
How are you?
Bert Weiss
Good. How are you?
Colin
Good.
Whitney
I think this guy is totally playing you guys. I think that there is probably a perfectly logical explanation of why he's there. I don't know why, but I think he heard you on the radio and
Colin
that's why he did the U turn
Whitney
that first morning and he never showed up.
Colin
He did the U turn in the
Whitney
parking lot just to make sure it was him. And now it's just plain all of you.
Wendy
Well, she's been seeing for four months now, like, we just started this three weeks ago.
Jeff
Even if he is jacking with us,
Colin
he heard himself on the radio.
Melissa
Have you heard the whole. Are you completely cut her?
Colin
I've been following. I listen every morning. I've heard the whole deal. I think he's probably a security guy
Whitney
or maybe a real estate agent.
Jeff
Yeah, even if he's playing us, that's still four months of why was he there?
Bert Weiss
And even based on what you heard yesterday late in the show, you still think he's a security guard?
Colin
I think he's a security guard or
Whitney
real estate agent or something along those
Colin
lines, but I think he's just playing everybody.
Bert Weiss
All right, well, we still have four segments to play from you. Remember, this has taken place over three weeks now, and we're trying to get you guys up to speed. So save the theories until we're done playing the segments here. So here's the part where we're at.
Wendy
Now.
Bert Weiss
Whitney calls us up. There's a guy in the townhouse community shows up every single day for five minutes, walks behind the townhomes, goes into one every single day, then he leaves. We send Frankie down there to confront the guy. On day number one, the dude turns right around, doesn't do his normal routine for the first time in four months.
Melissa
Right.
Bert Weiss
Second day, Frankie goes down there and confronts the guy. Starts asking him, like, real estate questions and stuff like that. And the dude is sort of vague a little bit.
Melissa
Yeah, a little bit. And then Frankie decides he's gonna do a stakeout. He's gonna find exactly what's going on.
Bert Weiss
Look, you gotta give us a little credit. You guys come to us in the assignment. We go over the top to get you guys answers.
Colin
Absolutely.
Bert Weiss
So Frankie, yeah. Decides that he's gonna go on a stakeout and he's gonna watch this place all weekend long. He comes back into Q100 on Monday morning and gives us a report.
Frankie
All right. So we went in and we hid behind the wall.
Jeff
Are you in a car or.
Bert Weiss
Well, we got out of the car
Frankie
to walk around to see if we saw his car.
Jeff
Okay.
Frankie
We didn't. We didn't see his car at all.
Melissa
Did you dress all in black and like shimmy down the wall?
Frankie
I didn't want to be. I didn't want to be that covert about it because then the other neighbors looking out the window are like, what is this?
Melissa
That's true.
Jeff
91 1.
Frankie
Yeah, so we, we looked at the house and there was a TV on.
Jeff
Now what time are you there?
Frankie
This is around 9:00am or p.m. no,
Melissa
it's p.m. thursday night at 9.
Frankie
Yeah, just check them out. And there was no.
Jeff
Now, we don't know your sister. Were you using her as bait? Like, is she hot?
Frankie
She just come along, we talked about it because it bothered me that I couldn't figure out who this guy was.
Jeff
All right?
Frankie
So I, you know, I talked to a bunch of people about what they thought and I got all types of different stories, like, he's a murderer, blah, blah, blah, blah. But so we went. There was a TV on.
Jeff
Get your sister to join you for that.
Frankie
Yeah, well, she wanted to. So that was the sick part. So there was a TV on all night and that was it. No movement, nothing.
Melissa
You didn't see anybody in the.
Frankie
Not at all. So, you know, I got really frustrated and went and got the address and because I'm connected, I went and looked up on the FMLS website and found out who the real estate agent lady was.
Wendy
What is the fmls?
Frankie
It's multi listing real estate.
Jeff
It's like if you're gonna buy a house and you in and you can tell your real estate agent, I want to buy a house that costs $100,000 that's in this zip code. And then they can type that information in and it shows you every one of the houses. Here's 10 houses to choose from, right?
Frankie
Yeah. And it gives you the active listing, all the information about real estate agents, everything like that. So did that and got her number and found out that she is the owner. And what really bothers me the most is the guy never said anything to me about, oh yeah, well, this house is for sale and it is an active listing.
Jeff
But he said you asked him specifically, are there any houses for sale?
Frankie
And he didn't bring. He didn't say anything about, oh, I'm a real estate agent, or he did not say, well, this house is for sale. Nothing like that. He totally just walked away from all of that.
Bert Weiss
Okay, so then a few days later, Frankie back in studio. And at this point, I think he's contacted the actual real estate agent, Right. To try to get some answers on that house that this dude is ducking into every single day.
Frankie
Okay, but here's. Here's the weird part. Like, I don't. I'm not really sure if he actually goes in the house. Cause the way Whitney's house is, is you can't really see if he goes inside the house. You just see that he walks behind the houses.
Jeff
Okay.
Frankie
So I went and got the real estate agent's name, and I called her and real nice lady, and she was like, oh, are you talking about the guy in the silver BMW? I was like, yeah, that's him.
Jeff
She's like, now, how did that conversation go? Did you tell her that you're with Colin from the bird show?
Frankie
No. First I called and asked about the house, and then she said, we just took it off the market because of some other townhomes down the street. They're waiting for them to sell out.
Jeff
Okay.
Frankie
So. And then I asked her, then I said, you know, I'm calling for a friend who lives in the neighborhood and sees this guy every morning. And we're just wondering, you know, what the deal is with that. And she said that, you know, are you talking about the guy with the silver BMW? I'm like, yeah. And she said, you know, I think he goes behind the house and feeds the feral cats.
Jeff
No, he does. And he deals drugs.
Frankie
Oh, he's a serial feral cat feeder.
Jeff
Come on.
Bert Weiss
That's it.
Melissa
Really?
Colin
He feeds cats?
Frankie
I really. I don't believe it. She said she was gonna ask him straight out. And when I walked behind the house the first time when I was.
Jeff
Did you explain to her that we've been doing this on the radio for two weeks?
Colin
No.
Frankie
No, I did not. She doesn't know anything.
Jeff
Well, you're gonna need to tell her to come up with a better story.
Bert Weiss
Have you established if anybody lives in the house?
Frankie
Nobody lives in the house. The real estate agent owns the house,
Bert Weiss
so he's going randomly and filling up a bowl of cat food for random cats in the neighborhood.
Frankie
Now, I've walked around the back of the house, and I have not seen any bowl or any cat food or anything like that. And when I walk behind the house to see. The first time I saw him walk, I did not see him down anywhere. So I'm not buying it.
Bert Weiss
Okay, only two clips left here. Then we're up to speed. Okay, so Frankie has the idea of let's get a spy camera and just set it up for the weekend. And we have some really good friends that we work with@bigdaddyspy.com and this was the follow up, because Frankie now is going out and he's getting a spy camera to put in this guy's backyard to see if we can capture some pictures.
Whitney
Yeah.
Colin
Bigdaddyspy.com and I got a infrared, heat sensitive, and motion sensitive birdhouse. Birdhouse.
Wendy
That's funny.
Jeff
Awesome.
Bert Weiss
Did you install the birdhouse over the weekend?
Colin
Yeah, I think it'll go well with my cat uniform.
Jeff
When does the birdhouse go in?
Colin
I'll put it up probably sometime today.
Bert Weiss
Okay.
Colin
If not, after I get off work.
Bert Weiss
All right, so here's the update that we got from Frankie yesterday. So he puts the birdhouse in place, starts getting some pictures, and now things are really gonna get bizarre.
Melissa
Mm.
Bert Weiss
We thought we were gonna get real close here. I mean, how do you mess this up? You got a spy camera. We'll have pictures over the weekend. And it just got more and more bizarre. Yesterday.
Colin
I got a couple updates with this. You guys are gonna love this.
Bert Weiss
All right, bring it on, man.
Colin
All right, so I put the birdhous and I went and looked at the footage, and it shows the only thing I got. It shows one cat, you know, jumping across the camera during the day. But because it shows the garage door of the last house in question open up, dog comes running out, and there's a car in the garage. And now a car never pulled up. So the car's obviously been in there. And five minutes later, the dog comes walking back in the garage door closed, and no guy.
Jeff
So there's a. And what time of day did the garage door open and close?
Colin
This was about 1:30.
Jeff
In the afternoon.
Colin
In the afternoon. And it picked Nothing up at 9:30 or when the guy shows up for that day.
Jeff
So are you 100% sure that that's the house he's going to?
Colin
If I'm positive, I'm positive that's the house in question. Now, the reason why I say that is because I went there personally, because, you know, this is kind of frustrating to me. I went there and I put the birdhouse up again. I put the card back in the birdhouse, and I saw the guy pull up, and I walked around the side, waited for him, and when he walked around, he stopped, and he flipped out when he saw the Birdhouse, for some reason, just stopped in his tracks and started looking around. And he turned and he saw me. And I'm pretending I'm on my phone at this time talking to the real estate agent about the house and pretending that I'm waiting for her to come. So, you know, I'm talking kind of loud so he can hear me. So he thought nothing of it. And the guy does not go into the house.
Wendy
Okay, so what does he do?
Colin
He walk. And he walks back into the woods.
Melissa
He walks into the woods.
Colin
He walks into the back of the woods. Now, before he showed up that day, I went just to see if anything was back there and I walked back. The trail in the woods behind the houses, it leads to a fence with a hole underneath it for maybe a cat to get through. And that's it. It does not lead anywhere else.
Melissa
Okay, the dude did not go in the house because he saw you in the birdhouse. So he went into the woods.
Colin
Right? He does not go into the house. The real estate agent was not lying. She does own the house. And he does not go anywhere near the house or in the house.
Bert Weiss
Okay, so every day. So he didn't go into the woods because he saw you. You think his routine every day is to go behind the townhouses and then walk into the woods and not go into a house?
Colin
Yeah, he does not go into a house.
Melissa
Oh, so the woods is his destination?
Wendy
Yes.
Colin
So he goes into the woods. Now I walk the trail and it leads to nowhere.
Melissa
Did you. Did you notice all the plants along the trail? Did you see any pointed plants?
Colin
No, no, I looked. I looked. Trust me, I looked. But anyway, it's all ivy and it's a Little Trail about 3 inches wide that you can walk through. And it leads to the back of the fence and then nowhere else.
Bert Weiss
And there's just a little hole in the bottom of the fence that only like an animal as small as a small dog or a cat or a squirrel could get underneath.
Colin
Yeah, that's it.
Jeff
Or an item can be passed through.
Colin
Or an item. Right, okay. Or an item. So I'm more. I'm more confused now and curious than ever.
Bert Weiss
What?
Colin
So I think, well, you're gonna have to come straight out and ask him.
Jeff
You're gonna have to. No, I would go. I would dress like a woodland sprite. Like just wear like a toga esque thing made of ivy. And I think you should just dance and frolic in the woods like you belong there and just observe him.
Melissa
What are you doing back there?
Bert Weiss
There were two different levels to this. You lost me. Sort of. In the beginning when you said the photo from the birdhouse showed a dog coming out of the garage, but you didn't see any person open the garage?
Colin
Nope. No person at all. And it had the clear view of the house and the garage.
Melissa
It sounds like somebody lives there.
Colin
The real estate agent apparently still owns the house.
Bert Weiss
And there's a dog living in the house. And maybe they just hit the garage remotely from upstairs or something so the dog can let itself out.
Colin
Well, I think the real estate agents probably just parked out from the house, walked up, went through the front of the house, came down, opened up the garage, let the dog out, and then when the dog came back in, that was it.
Melissa
Well, dogs aren't gonna live in an empty home. I mean, like somebody said it's not
Colin
empty, that the garage had a car in it and there was stuff in it. Like it's been lived in.
Melissa
Yeah. Okay, so that's it. So we don't care about the house anymore. We care about the dude going in the woods. Okay, the house is irrelevant now. So the dude goes into the woods
Wendy
to do what for five minutes?
Melissa
Well, now you gotta move the birdhouse into the woods.
Jeff
Well, you can't, because then he's gotta know something's up. So you have to get out.
Colin
He already saw the birdhouse.
Jeff
You have to find a different type of camera. Like you have to get a non.
Bert Weiss
It's a rock camera.
Jeff
Yeah.
Colin
Can you hide?
Melissa
Frankie, can you hide out in the woods?
Wendy
Is there anywhere to hide back there?
Colin
Totally.
Whitney
Listen, it's.
Melissa
You could hide in the woods and wait for him and see what he does. Well, he's coming in 20 minutes, right?
Wendy
What if he's getting rid of evidence
Melissa
from a crime little by little?
Colin
That's what I was thinking. Cause I looked around and the only thing I saw with like almost a kind of new New Balance shoe just hanging out.
Bert Weiss
Say that one more time.
Colin
A New Balance sneaker. Just one. And it's kind of new. It's not old and not weathered yet.
Jeff
So you're looking for a one legged man.
Colin
Yeah. You're looking for somebody buried.
Bert Weiss
Wait, I'm starting. I'm starting to get lost here. So you saw him take a New Balance shoe back into the. Into the woods and didn't know before.
Colin
He didn't have anything in his hands, nothing in his pockets. So the whole feral cat thing is. Is. Is out the window. Okay. When I went back there before he showed up, just to, you know, see what was going on Back there, all that was back there was just a New Balance shoe that wasn't weathered yet. It was kind of new.
Bert Weiss
Watch. Somebody watch one of the neighbors call the cops on Frankie.
Melissa
Frankie, this weird dude is putting up a birdhouse.
Colin
I wasn't. I wasn't going to tell you this, but now that you bring that up, when I went to go put the birdhouse up the night I did get pulled over and I did get searched for being in that. In the neighborhood.
Bert Weiss
Really, Somebody.
Colin
Somebody apparently called the police on me and was wondering what I was doing back there.
Bert Weiss
Seriously?
Wendy
Oh, wow.
Colin
Yeah, seriously.
Bert Weiss
Okay, so wait a second.
Melissa
Like, so I'm working for Q100 in the bird show.
Colin
I, you know, I just said I was putting up a birdhouse for a friend, and I know it's late, but I just got off work. I didn't say anything about the radio.
Bert Weiss
Okay, so that's where we are at this point. You guys are all caught up now on this storyline that generally takes place between, like, 9:30 and 10. So if you have any answers, please share them with us because we are more confused today than when we started this thing three weeks ago.
Melissa
It's the field. The field threw a whole different wrench into it.
Wendy
And the shoe.
Melissa
And the New Balance shoe.
Bert Weiss
Bizarre dude.
Jeff
One legged man.
Bert Weiss
Hey, Kevin, what's going on, man?
Colin
Hey, guys. It seems pretty clear to me this is either an elaborate April Fool's joke on us or on you guys.
Bert Weiss
I promise you, we're not behind it. Yeah, I promise you we're not behind it.
Colin
But then somebody. Have you considered somebody might be trying to pull something on you?
Bert Weiss
Well, I can tell you why I don't think that they are. Because there's a relative of Whitney that approached me about this that I know as a. In my personal life that wouldn't be capable of doing this. Like, it's not some stranger. This is not just, quote unquote, a random listener. This is somebody in my life that presented me with this story.
Jeff
And I think. I do think it's plausible that Whitney
Melissa
would have to be in on it.
Jeff
I'm gonna use all the words that they use on Mythbusters. It's plausible that the guy is on to us and is jacking with us at this point by doing funny stuff like going into the woods or whatever. And if that's the case, I say kudos to him. But that doesn't lessen the mystery of before he started jacking with us, why is he pulling up to the house every day at 9:45 so there's still a mystery to be solved. If he's toying with us a little bit, then I'll give him some credit for that. I almost think that's like.
Melissa
Unless Whitney's in on it because she's the one that is. That's the only way.
Bert Weiss
She's not.
Melissa
She's told us four months.
Bert Weiss
I'm telling you, I can. I can almost guarantee you that that family is not in on it. If it's an April Fool's show. Hey, Bailey. Good Morning. You're on Q100.
Whitney
Hey, did you guys ever think maybe
Colin
on the other side of the fence might be the house of one of his exes or something and it's his pet that he's trying to visit without her knowing?
Wendy
Kind of.
Melissa
Is it his pet?
Colin
Yeah. Maybe they had a pet together and then they broke up and she kept the pet. And maybe he's trying to visit with the pet or something.
Melissa
Or it's a tragic story of a child that comes to the fence to talk to daddy every day.
Jeff
A one legged child who can only afford New Balance sneakers.
Colin
Only one.
Wendy
One.
Jeff
One New Balance. Well, he's one legged.
Bert Weiss
Mandy, good morning. You have a theory?
Whitney
Hey, Good morning. Listening to y' all every morning.
Bert Weiss
Thank you.
Whitney
Okay. My idea is that he maybe has some family, maybe his wife or some kids, and something bad happens to him. So that's his place to come by and remember every morning.
Colin
But it's just too hard for him to live there.
Jeff
Could be. Well, that'll go over swimmingly if we ever get to him.
Bert Weiss
Could be.
Wendy
No theory is a wrong theory at this point, Tiffany.
Jeff
Some are bad.
Bert Weiss
You're on Q100. Hi.
Colin
Hey.
Whitney
Hey.
Colin
Yeah, I was originally, before I heard the last clips, I was gonna say that, you know, I thought he could have possibly had somebody locked up in
Whitney
the house and he was going and
Colin
taking food and water or something like
Whitney
that to make sure, you know, that they lived.
Colin
But now, I don't know, like he could be going back in the woods and smoking a joint every day before he goes to work.
Bert Weiss
That came up yesterday.
Wendy
Didn't.
Melissa
That came up yesterday. But yeah, I mean, I get. Because it is illegal. Nobody should do it. Just seems like that's. Yeah. The same time every morning. And it just seems like that's a lot of effort to do that. A lot of going out of your way.
Bert Weiss
And we can eliminate that somebody locked in the house theory because the guy doesn't go into the house. We found out.
Wendy
Goes into the woods.
Bert Weiss
Goes into the woods. He doesn't actually go into the house every day.
Jeff
What if they're keeping a one legged man prison in that house and they don't let him have anything? And the only thing that he could throw to safety was one shoe that he wasn't wearing because they've covered the floor in glass. So that's what it is. The floor of the townhome is covered in broken glass and the one legged man couldn't take off his other shoe to write a note on it and throw it. So he threw the only. That's why it was missing.
Melissa
I started daydreaming about 30 seconds ago.
Bert Weiss
So our next step here is that Frankie is. Bigdaddyspy.com gave us some different cameras, small cameras around the forest and just for
Jeff
the record, the woods. We're not calling. Bigdaddyspy.com is a real company. It's not Frankie's nickname now.
Bert Weiss
No.
Jeff
Hey, it's Big Daddy Spy.
Bert Weiss
They do all these really cool different spyware type things like little itty bitty cameras and stuff like that. So they're giving us a bunch that we're gonna put up in the woods for the next couple of days and see if we can again capture some pictures. And if not, we're just. I think we're gonna just end up hiring a private investigator.
Melissa
Gonna have to.
Bert Weiss
So we're working for you, Whitney. We're working hard, girl. The bird show.
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Bert Weiss
See Terms the Birch show all right, Wendy, I want you to put your money where your mouth is, girl.
Melissa
I do too.
Bert Weiss
I want you to put your money where your mouth is. We were just talking about Dancing with the Stars. I didn't see the show last night, but Wendy watches every week, right? And she was disgusted by the effort that Kate Gosling put in last night.
Wendy
The effort that Kate Gosselin put forth was none. It was absolutely zero. And I understand, I understand she has no background in entertainment. I don't have a background in entertainment, but I could still look like I'm having fun. And actually to rise. She didn't even look like she was trying to do the dance. Like she had been taught for a week how to do this jive dance. Pretty simple because he kept it simple because she's not a performer and she would like the even from the leg movements from her. She just stood there and was like looking around, not trying to put any of the steps together and he was like dragging her around the dance floor.
Bert Weiss
What were the exact, exact words, Melissa that Wendy used during commercials?
Wendy
I could do. I'll Say it. I could do a better job in one week on a jive than Kate Gosselin did.
Bert Weiss
Booyah.
Melissa
You have to do the same routine.
Jeff
It would just be a jive.
Wendy
Someone's gotta.
Melissa
Somebody's gotta learn that routine and help teach Wendy that routine for one week. Then she's gonna. We're gonna record her doing that with a partner, and then we're gonna post it online and determine whether she did better than Kay Gosling.
Bert Weiss
Here's my idea, is that we will post the Kate Gosselin dance, and then we'll post yours, and we'll have an online vote. And if you beat Kate Gosling, I'll give you 100 bucks.
Whitney
Okay.
Bert Weiss
Okay.
Wendy
I mean, I'm totally up for that.
Jeff
And if you can make your dance instructor storm out, I'll also give you 100 bucks.
Wendy
No, because I'll actually enjoy what I'm doing. It's just for fun. I mean, this is fun. She is getting paid to be on that show just to put in a little bit of effort, a little bit of smile.
Melissa
You said you could do the dance better.
Wendy
I could do the dance.
Bert Weiss
Okay, so what we need is a dance instructor, professional dance instructor to train you. And you only have one week. So that means from the time that you and the instructor agree, which I'm hoping will be sometime over the next 24 hours, you have seven days to get that video posted online. Because Kate Gosselin had a week, right?
Melissa
Yes, one week. And then she had to perform it live. So you get one shot to. When you were doing it on camera, you get one shot. You can't do a retake because Kate couldn't do a retake last night. Right. And they. And you have to do. I'm like, if the instructor saw the show last night or watches the show and can do a similar routine, hopefully the same, but, you know, close to it. Then we put you up there.
Wendy
I am totally down. No, I mean, I will put forth at least more effort and have fun with it. And she did not have fun. Have you seen. You need to watch the video, Bert.
Melissa
Like.
Wendy
Cause it is insanely bad.
Bert Weiss
I watched about four minutes of the show last night, but it wasn't her part, so I didn't see it.
Jeff
Yes, it's dancing, Bert. They just want to have fun because,
Melissa
I mean, Kevin Bacon. Everybody's argument is the fact that she's the only one that is not a former athlete and not a former performer. So I do find that even Katie, who cannot see Kate Gosselin, gives her A little bit of wiggle room, because she doesn't have any background in doing anything like this.
Bert Weiss
Do you have any dance background at all?
Wendy
I've just flipped flags during halftime, which includes a little bit of dance, but not anything technical or step related or in heels.
Bert Weiss
All right, so you're pretty much in the same category. Hey, Kim. Good Morning. You're on Q100.
Colin
Hello. I just wanted to tell you, Bert,
Whitney
that you better get your $100 ready.
Colin
You'll definitely be paying.
Bert Weiss
Wendy, did she really suck last night? Was she that bad?
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It was just.
Wendy
No, it was not that. I mean, I'm so glad she got out and tried. I'm so. Give her. Give her points for trying.
Bert Weiss
But it's very parental of you.
Jeff
You know what? Did you have fun, Kate? Did you try your hardest?
Wendy
She didn't.
Jeff
Well, that's all that matters.
Wendy
She got out there, but I didn't think the effort was there. There was no, like, fun in it. I mean, it's a fun show, and you're supposed to have fun with your partner.
Bert Weiss
So you think that if you start tomorrow, just the fact that you're gonna have fun doing it will make you
Wendy
have fun and better dancer.
Bert Weiss
You'll have a better routine.
Wendy
Try the steps. I mean, even if you do something wrong, just act like you're having fun. She had a miserable look on her face.
Melissa
It's not about fun. It's about you being a better dancer.
Wendy
Thank you.
Jeff
I think you can do it, Wendy. I think you're fine.
Wendy
Thanks, Jeff.
Bert Weiss
Good morning, Burchell.
Whitney
Good morning. How are you guys?
Bert Weiss
Great.
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How are you?
Colin
Good. I just wanted to say Kate was a hot mess last night, but you can only give Wendy four days, because I do believe they only have four days to practice, not seven.
Bert Weiss
Okay.
Colin
All right, so let's make it fair.
Jeff
So if she starts, but she has
Wendy
been with her partner for three and
Jeff
a half weeks, so you get an extra. So you get five days. So you start on five days. You find the dance instructor.
Bert Weiss
I think we've got one.
Melissa
Okay.
Jeff
And then you could start this week and have this week in the weekend. And then a week from today, you do it. So you would start, what, Thursday this week? And you'd have all week. Thursday, Friday, all weekend, and Monday and Tuesday. Bang. You do it.
Bert Weiss
Goes up online.
Wendy
I'm ready.
Bert Weiss
Hey, Lisa. Good Morning. You're on Q100.
Whitney
Good morning, guys.
Colin
Now, I am a professional ballroom dancer. Now, the one thing that I do know is that, yes, they only have
Whitney
four days, but they have eight Hours a day to practice, so she should
Colin
have a little bit longer. But I can get you going. I can get you a male dancer, and we can practice for a week and make you look fabulous, because I
Whitney
think that you're right.
Colin
And as long as you're having fun and learn the steps, you'll do much better.
Bert Weiss
Where is your studio? What's the name of it?
Colin
I teach at a dance studio up in Duluth. Now we can go to another studio into downtown, which is not a problem.
Whitney
I teach at Southern Dance Connection, and
Colin
my father in law also is a
Whitney
professional dancer and he has a studio up in Duluth. So we can get her going.
Wendy
Let's do it. I'm so ready to do this. I think it looks like fun. I love Dancing with the stars anyway, but just I can do dance tons better than Kate.
Bert Weiss
We will take you up on this. Lisa, can I put you on hold?
Colin
You sure can.
Bert Weiss
Okay, so now we have our instructor.
Wendy
All right, let's see. Kate gets eight hours a day. I don't have eight hours to devote.
Bert Weiss
Well, I mean, you could, but you've got an extra day, too.
Wendy
Okay. So five days.
Bert Weiss
So whatever you gotta do.
Whitney
All right.
Bert Weiss
Did we agree that next Tuesday.
Jeff
Tuesday you do it.
Bert Weiss
So you can start goes up.
Wendy
I need to start Thursday.
Jeff
Yeah. Well, you can start earlier than that because you have 32 hours. Four times eight is 32. So if you want to do six hours a day for five days, there's your 30 hours.
Bert Weiss
It all depends on your commitment.
Wendy
I'm ready to do it.
Bert Weiss
100 bucks as you can be. I think it's hours logged.
Jeff
Yeah. I think it's fair to give her a week. If she goes a few under, a few over, so be it. But.
Melissa
But the dancer will keep track of the hours logged.
Wendy
Cool.
Bert Weiss
And many people are calling up saying you have to almost like, pick the same sort of outfit that she did. Also, like, you have to wear the heel.
Melissa
You have to mimic the exact thing that happened last night.
Wendy
I'm ready.
Bert Weiss
You're down.
Wendy
I'm down. Let's do it.
Bert Weiss
Put the video up online. One week from today, the Birch Show. All right, here's the an audio of a woman that obviously hasn't learned what you've learned. All right. And that's. There's a limit before you're gonna feel really nasty and be safe about it. This is a woman that calls 911 and reports herself drinking and driving.
Wendy
Oh, boy.
Colin
I'm sorry.
Whitney
I think I went the wrong way.
Colin
Do you need nasty?
Whitney
Yeah.
Colin
Really?
Whitney
Kind of, yeah.
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Colin
Yeah, I do, actually. Okay. Why don't you tell me what's going on? Are you intoxicated?
Whitney
Absolutely.
Colin
I'm gonna tell you right now. Are you driving? Yeah. Pull in the parking lot so you can. Because you're not. Shouldn't be driving while you're talking on the phone. Pull into a parking lot and let's talk for a minute. Okay. Driving. Yeah, I know, I know. I'm coming to help you so you don't go to jail. You know what though, hon? I. I would not have called you unless I was concerned with myself. I. I know. And I was concerned about you, and I tried to get you to pull over. I know. I don't want to hurt nobody else. Can I tell you something? Can I tell you something? Yeah, I know. I lost. I lost my mom to a drunk driver. That's what I want you to pull over.
Whitney
I know.
Colin
Okay.
Bert Weiss
Okay.
Colin
So I got sad.
Bert Weiss
That's like rock bottom. I think if you're a drinker, because that's all, that audio is being played everywhere today, you know, and yesterday. And if you're that woman, you're like, I'm quitting.
Colin
That's it.
Bert Weiss
That's it for me.
Melissa
If you call in yourself.
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Melissa
Time to stop.
Bert Weiss
Hey, the bird show.
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Pick up fees may apply. The bird show. I don't know if you guys will find it. There's anything in here that's meaty or not, but it's the 30 things every woman should quit doing by 30. Okay, see if there's anything here for you guys. Making out with her BFFs at bars for attention.
Melissa
Oh, Jesus.
Wendy
Oh, yeah. Never do that.
Bert Weiss
Guilty. No, never.
Wendy
Never.
Bert Weiss
Jen.
Melissa
No, never. Well, not in my 30s. Okay. Why didn't you ask me? Just kidding.
Jeff
Well, you have to quit doing it by your 30s. So it happened before then?
Melissa
Yeah.
Colin
Yeah.
Wendy
Oh, yeah.
Bert Weiss
Okay. Joanna, how old are you?
Wendy
I am 20. I'll be 26 on Monday.
Bert Weiss
26.
Jeff
Happy early birthday.
Bert Weiss
Alright, you've got four years to continue making out with your best friends at bars.
Wendy
Alright, great.
Bert Weiss
Making out with your boyfriend at bars for attention.
Wendy
Yeah, I stopped doing that a couple years ago. For attention or just for fun?
Bert Weiss
Attention.
Wendy
I think you should stop. Yeah, for attention.
Melissa
It's the same thing.
Bert Weiss
I could never see Jason being one of those guys.
Wendy
He tried to on our first date and I said no, but I think it's definitely. You hit a point where you're like, no more being that girl that's making out at the bar.
Bert Weiss
Mm. 30 things every woman should quit doing by 30. Filling her bed with stuffed animals.
Wendy
Oh, GROSS.
Melissa
Oh, it's 20.
Jeff
If you take stuffed animals with you to college, you got a problem.
Melissa
Yeah.
Bert Weiss
That is such a red flag for a dude. If he shows up to your apartment and you've got stuffed animals on your bed. That is instant U turn. Right there.
Whitney
Yeah.
Wendy
That's got to be about, like.
Melissa
What does it say about the girl?
Bert Weiss
It's. It's almost in the crazy cat category.
Jeff
Yes. Really?
Bert Weiss
Yeah.
Melissa
She's gonna be psycho or grow up too much of a little girl.
Bert Weiss
Yeah.
Whitney
Yeah.
Bert Weiss
Skipping regular gyno exams.
Melissa
Oh, you can't do that.
Wendy
Oh, no.
Bert Weiss
All right. That's one thing that every woman should quit doing by 30. Calling her father daddy.
Melissa
Oh, I still do that.
Bert Weiss
Do you?
Jeff
Yeah, I think that's fine.
Bert Weiss
Forever, Joanna. I bet you call your dad daddy.
Wendy
No, I call him Poppy.
Bert Weiss
Poppy.
Wendy
So I call my dad dad.
Bert Weiss
Engaging in sibling rivalry should be done by the time you hit 30 years old. Melissa Carter, that happened.
Melissa
Happen the rest of your life. That doesn't change.
Bert Weiss
That never goes away. Living paycheck to paycheck, by the time you're 30, you should be past that.
Frankie
Right?
Melissa
If you can. I mean, I guess it's an odd time right now, but. Yeah. I think by the time you're 30, you should have a little bit together.
Wendy
I do think. Absolutely. Before you're 30, you need to learn how to start saving and how to put away for retirement and how to have something, a cushion of some sort. I definitely think that that's a goal for every woman.
Bert Weiss
You said your dad, like, started teaching you that way early, right?
Wendy
I remember as a kid, like three,
Bert Weiss
your dad's like, you need to learn how to write a check and go to the money machine.
Wendy
My dad opened my bank account for me when I was 14 years old. You know, I had a Bank account at 14. I knew how to use a debit card. Am I good at it now? Not so much.
Bert Weiss
But he did teach me that one thing that every woman should quit doing by 30 is using MySpace to pick up guys.
Wendy
Yeah, well, MySpace. Well, Facebook now. I mean, just go to Facebook. MySpace is dead.
Jeff
Well, I think it applies to Facebook. This just might be an older list. Who uses MySpace right now? It's not a comedian or band.
Bert Weiss
Measuring her self worth by a number on the scale.
Wendy
Oh, man.
Bert Weiss
We've talked to you guys enough to say I don't know that any woman had ever.
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I think you do.
Melissa
That doesn't change. I mean, it gets worse as you get older. Because I think for a lot of women, it's harder to keep weight off the older they get. Yeah. So it gets worse.
Bert Weiss
Blaming her mother for all of her issues. Gotta stop doing that by the time you're 30 years old. Definitely. And being cheap.
Wendy
What does that mean?
Melissa
Why are you looking at me? Let me tell you. No, no, no, Bert Weiss, let me tell you, if you want me to be a saver on that list, then I gotta be cheap.
Jeff
Melissa will squeeze a dollar until George Washington screams.
Melissa
I swear.
Jeff
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Bert Weiss
The Bird Show.
Wendy
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Bert Weiss
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Colin
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Colin
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Date: July 9, 2026
Hosts/Cast: Bert Weiss, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, Wendy, Melissa, Jeff, Colin, Frankie, Whitney
This episode captures the signature Bert Show mix: hilarious banter, engaging listener stories, and a touch of personal challenge, all woven through a three-week-long neighborhood mystery. The show dives deep into a listener-submitted case of a mysterious man’s daily five-minute visits to a Decatur townhouse complex, crowd-sourcing theories in classic Bert Show fashion. Later, a lively discussion arises as Wendy accepts a dance-off challenge inspired by “Dancing with the Stars.” Rounding out the hour are rapid-fire observations on “thirty things every woman should quit by thirty” and snippets of trending audio.
Timestamps: 01:23–33:56
Timestamps: 36:02–42:30
Wendy: “I could do a better job in one week on a jive than Kate Gosselin did.” (36:55)
Melissa: “You have to do the same routine.” (37:02)
Bert: “I’ll give you $100 if you beat Kate Gosselin.” (37:15)
Wendy: “I will put forth at least more effort and have fun with it. And she did not have fun.” (38:19)
A professional ballroom instructor calls in, offers to donate training time. Plan is set for Wendy’s one-week jive blitz, studio arranged, logistics compared to “Dancing With the Stars” protocol, with actual dance hours tracked.
Timestamps: 46:07–50:53
Cast reacts to a Buzzfeed-style list of things to “quit by 30,” riffing on the items:
The show seamlessly blends a quirky real-life mystery with playful personal bets and audience participation, maintaining its lively, conversational tone. Real-time caller input, improvisational theorizing, and cast camaraderie make the episode compelling even for newcomers.