Full Show PT 1: Thursday, March 5 [Vault]

Summary

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The Bert Show: Full Show PT 1 – Thursday, March 5 [Vault]

Episode Date: March 5, 2026
Featured Guests: Bert Show cast: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, et al. | Guest: Divorce Attorney Evan Summerstein

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Bert Show centers around two main topics:

1. Divorce and legal advice for listeners in tough situations, featuring live Q&A with divorce attorney Evan Summerstein.
2. Social frustrations and ethics—especially misuse of handicap parking spaces—with contributions from both the Bert Show team and listeners.

In between, the show also touches on real-life family drama about navigating opposing political views during family gatherings.

The episode stays true to the show’s trademark style—authentic, funny, and deeply empathetic, blending real talk, expert insight, and listener stories.

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Key Segment 1: Divorce Advice Live with Evan Summerstein

Opening Discussion – The Economic Impact on Divorce

[01:06–02:20]

• Bert and co-hosts introduce Evan Summerstein, emphasizing how daunting divorce can feel, especially when finances make people hesitate to split even if unhappy.
• Bert reflects: “I read yesterday that most people at this point, like with the economy so bad … even if they have the thought of getting into divorce, they're holding out right now.”
  (Bert, 01:40)
• Evan: “It’s one of the great things about my job. It’s economy proof ... People don’t like each other when they have money or when they don’t have money.”
  (Evan Summerstein, 01:53)

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Listener Q&A with Attorney Evan Summerstein

1. Restraining Orders for Non-Physical Abuse

Caller: Michelle
[02:30–04:33]

• Michelle shares her experience: her husband threatened to take their kids, withdrew money, and harasses her without physical violence.
• Evan confirms she can file for a restraining order if there's serious harassment:
  • “You can definitely request a restraining order ... go to the magistrate court in whatever county you live in ... apply for a restraining order.” (Evan, 03:20)
• Michelle describes emotional abuse and her child’s distress:
  • “He wants to make me mad. He wants me to fight with him ... My son looked at me, he goes, ‘Mommy, please don’t fight with Daddy.’” (Michelle, 04:12)

2. Child Support Disputes for Unmarried Parents

Caller: [Name Disguised]
[05:11–07:04]

• Caller receives fluctuating voluntary payments from ex, who now refuses to pay after remarrying.
• Evan advises:
  • “File for child support through a private attorney or the Child Support Enforcement Office … courts will enter an order based on the Georgia Child Support Guidelines.” (Evan, 05:57, 06:12)
• On back child support:
  • “They will not do a retroactive child support order … But if you can come to court with expenses he hasn't helped contribute to, they will make him contribute to those.” (Evan, 06:37)
• Notable caller reaction: all-business tone is observed by Bert and co-hosts, who note the dichotomy of emotional vs. transactional cases.

3. Paying Legal Fees When Money Runs Out

Caller: Rebecca
[07:36–09:08]

• Caller in a drawn-out, costly divorce against better-resourced spouse.
• Evan:
  • “The court can make him pay your attorney's fees … common in situations where only one spouse has money.” (Evan, 08:17)
  • Recommends requesting a temporary hearing during the proceedings.

4. Divorce Timelines and Prolonged Cases

[09:41–10:11]

• Evan shares: a year and a half is average for a contested divorce; the longest case he saw lasted two and a half years.

5. House Ownership After Divorce

Caller: Rhonda
[10:14–11:34]

• Rhonda’s ex-husband was awarded the house, but her name is still on the deed.
• Evan:
  • “If he has a court order that gives him the house, yes, the house is his. You're a renter who’s not having to pay rent.” (Evan, 10:58)
  • On proceeds if the house is sold: “If [the court order] just says he gets the house, then … the money would be his.” (Evan, 11:21)

6. Changing Lawyers Mid-Divorce

Caller: Jerrell
[12:07–13:49]

• Jerrell’s divorce is entangled in legal delays; wants to know if she can switch attorneys.
• Evan:
  • “You always have the right to get a new attorney … But it’s expensive. Try to have a heart-to-heart with your current attorney before making the jump.” (Evan, 13:18–13:49)

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Key Quotes from the Divorce Segment

• “People don’t like each other when they have money or when they don’t have money.”
  – Evan Summerstein (01:53)
• “He wants to make me mad. He wants me to fight with him.”
  – Michelle (04:12)
• “Some people five years later still have exactly as much anger as they had at the start of it.”
  – Evan Summerstein (07:28)
• “You’re a renter who’s not having to pay rent.”
  – Evan Summerstein (11:02)
• “Try to have a heart-to-heart talk with [your attorney] … But if not, you may want to consider changing attorneys.”
  – Evan Summerstein (13:18–13:49)

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Key Segment 2: Handicap Parking Pet Peeves & Social Ethics

Confessions and Outrage about Misusing Handicap Spots

[15:24–24:35]

• Bert admits to once using his mother-in-law's handicap sticker during knee rehab:
  • “I borrowed my mother-in-law’s handicap [placard]. I was driving her truck because it had more leg room … I justified it by saying, ‘There are fifteen handicap spots here and they’re not going to miss one. Plus, I got a bum knee.’”
    (Bert, 16:01–17:16)
• Co-hosts debate the gray areas; some admit constant temptation but refuse because of “karma.” Humor interspersed.

CBS 46 Sting on Handicap Spot Abusers

[17:36–19:55]

• Discussion about a news segment busting people who abuse handicap spots, includes an audio clip of an aggressive confrontation:
  • “Well, you were doing the wrong thing.” (CBS 46 reporter, 18:31)
  • “That’s my dad’s sticker… Well, I see people park here all the time without a handicap sticker at all.”
    (Confronted Parkers, 19:26 & 19:29)
  • “Do you think it’s fair to use someone else’s sticker?”
    (CBS 46, 19:27)

Listener Contributions and Online Shaming

[20:43–21:43]

• Discussion of website handicappedfraud.org where people can post offenders’ photos.
• Listener “Desiree” complains: “My aunt is constantly stealing my grandmother’s handicap parking spot … It really irks me.”
  (Desiree, 21:03-21:18)

Police and Handicap Parking Loopholes

[21:29–22:38]

• Co-hosts debate whether police should be called out for parking illegally (in access lanes); mixed opinions:
  • “He might have rushed in for official business and gets a pass.” (Bert, 22:02)
  • “But this guy was running an errand to the post office and parked right there.” (Co-host Male, 22:17)

“My Kids Aren’t a Handicap, They’re a Gift”: Daycare Story

Caller: Patty
[22:57–24:03]

• Patty recounts confronting a daycare parent abusing a handicap spot:
  • “My children are not a handicap. They're a gift.” (Patty, 23:25)
• She ensures the parent gets a ticket after being cussed out.

On Punishments for Offenders (Jokingly)

[24:09–24:29]

• “They should cut off one of your legs if you park in a handicap spot. … But then they don’t give you a sticker. That’s your punishment.”
  (Co-host Male, 24:09)

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Key Segment 3: Family Drama – Politics and Dinner Tables

Election-Eve Family Tensions

[25:41–33:02]

• Erica, a listener, seeks advice: her parents (McCain supporters) and her boyfriend’s parents (Obama supporters) are meeting for the first time.
• She tries to avoid political talk, but her father confronts her boyfriend’s parents after dinner:
  • “So I hear you guys are Obama supporters.” (Erica’s dad, recounted at 28:12)
  • Boyfriend’s parents try to avoid the topic; Erica’s dad presses: “Why don’t you want to talk about it? You don’t know enough about it?” (Paraphrased, 28:50–28:57)
• Erica and her boyfriend cut the evening short. She’s frustrated:
  • “My dad, like, totally disrespected my boyfriend's family. … That was totally disrespectful.” (Erica, 32:06)
• Hosts discuss how political conversations are often avoided in families to sidestep conflict. They recommend laying low until after the election.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You’re a renter who’s not having to pay rent. So I guess that’s a good situation for you.”
  – Evan Summerstein (11:02)
• “My children are not a handicap. They’re a gift.”
  – Patty (23:25)
• “I think they should cut off one of your legs if you park in a handicap spot. … But then they don’t give you a sticker.”
  – Co-host Male (24:09)
• “There’s so much at stake. I mean, if you’re passionate about your candidate ... you really feel like the country will be going in the right direction if your candidate is elected.”
  – Bert (31:52)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Divorce Advice with Evan Summerstein: 01:06–14:01
• Handicap Parking Pet Peeves: 15:24–24:35
• Family Political Drama (Erica’s Story): 25:41–33:02

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Episode Takeaways

• The Bert Show’s blend of empathy, legal expertise, and humor shines as callers get practical advice and emotional support for fraught divorce situations.
• The cast and listeners get candid (and comedic) about pet peeves—especially around handicap parking—offering a modern twist on citizen accountability.
• The episode closes with a vivid slice of life: families navigating the minefield of politics at the dinner table, showcasing emotional honesty and the struggle to maintain peace amid deep disagreements.

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Transcript

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[Co-host or Producer]

Nobody knows where to start.

[Host Bert]

Or if you're in the middle of it, you probably don't ever really totally feel satisfied you're getting what you think you're supposed to get. Well, Evan can help you out with that and we'll take your calls. Morning, Evan.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

Good morning.

[Host Bert]

How are you today?

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

I am doing great. How are you guys?

[Co-host Female]

Good.

[Host Bert]

I've read yesterday that most people at this point, like with the economy so bad in the middle of a recession, even if they have the thought of getting into divorce, they're holding out right now.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

It is. It's one of the great things about my job. It's economy proof and doesn't seem to affect it too much.

[Host Bert]

So people still are. I mean, you're getting as many calls now as you were before this economy turned.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

Oh yeah. People don't like each other when they have money or when they don't have money.

[Co-host Male]

Broker rich I still think you're an

[Host Bert]

a hole if you're in the middle of a divorce or you're just starting out. Evan here can answer your questions from Hunter, Weinstein and Summerstein.

[Co-host or Producer]

Oftentimes we get calls, too. If you need advice for your quote, unquote finger, quote friend.

[Host Bert]

Right.

[Co-host or Producer]

Maybe you feel more comfortable calling and asking in that way. That's cool, too.

[Host Bert]

And we can put you on the voice disguiser if you want. That's fine. Good morning, Michelle. You are on Q100. Hi.

[Caller or Guest]

Good morning. I had filed for a divorce towards the beginning of the year. He freaked out on me and scared me into actually staying. And things have gone bad again and I want to get out of it, but he's threatened to take my kids. He withdrew the money out of our accounts and, you know, just going to make it hard for me to live. So what I'm trying to find out is, is there a college just being in my face screaming at me, you know, just putting my kids through stuff that they don't need to be put through. But what I'm trying to find out is she has not been physically violent with me. Is there any kind of a restraining order or something that I can get put to keep him away from me until this divorce is done?

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

Yeah, you can definitely request a restraining order if. I mean, if there's serious, like, hard harassment like that, and he's getting in your face and actually in your feet, you know, creating fear of kind of violence or something like that. And you can go to the magistrate court in whatever county you live in and actually have forms there that you can fill out to apply for a restraining order.

[Host Bert]

Michelle, what kind of things is he saying to you that are making you have that fear?

[Caller or Guest]

He just threatens to leave with the kids. Tells me I'll never see him again. Like I say, he'll get in my face and he won't actually hit me, but he'll, like, slap his hands in front of my face. He'll keep me. Just like the other night we had a fight. He felt like four hours. I mean, and I try. I'm like, look, I got to get up and go to work in the morning. Can you please just stop? He's like, not asking to stop. He'll just keep on and get worse. And if I don't talk to him about it, he'll just keep on and

keep on and keep on.

It's like he wants to. He wants to make me mad. He wants me to fight with him. And, you know, just doing that. And then, like, whenever I got out of the vehicle, my son had turned out and looked at me. Whenever he had started running his mouth at me, he looked at me, he goes, mommy, please don't fight with Daddy.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

I mean, it sounds to me especially that, you know, with him slapping his hands and all that it definitely wouldn't. Would justify getting a restraining order.

[Caller or Guest]

Okay.

Thank you.

[Host Bert]

All right. Thank you for calling. Sorry about your pain right now. I say this every time we have Evan on and we take a call like this. It always strikes me that at one point, she and he looked at each other in the eyes on their wedding day with such loving eyes, and everything he said was funny to her. Everything she said, he thought was the most outstanding thing ever, you know, and they were gonna be with each other for the rest of their lives. And then you fast forward to today, and this is what has happened, you know?

[Co-host or Producer]

Yeah.

[Co-host Female]

I mean, how is it.

[Host Bert]

How do you get from A to B, you know? Good morning, Pam. You are on Q100. Hi.

[Caller or Guest]

Hey.

I have a question.

I was never married, but I have a daughter.

My ex was paying a certain amount every month, and then he decided to change it once he got married. Then he decided he wasn't gonna pay anything at all because he has her almost half of the time.

[Co-host Male]

She has what? We didn't hear the end of that.

[Host Bert]

I had to put her on the voice disguiser. Go ahead.

[Caller or Guest]

He has her.

Like, we split the time, like, 60, 40, 60%. She's with me.

[Co-host or Producer]

Okay.

[Caller or Guest]

Okay. So, like, he was paying something for years, and then he got married and decided, you know, well, I do have her, you know, a lot, so I don't think I should pay anything.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

Do you have a court order in place already, or was he just paying voluntarily?

[Caller or Guest]

He was just paying voluntarily.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

Okay. What you definitely need to do is file for child support. And you can either do that through a private attorney, or the state has agencies that will do that in every county called the Child Support Enforcement Office.

[Caller or Guest]

Okay.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

And they will go ahead and set an amount based on. We have what's called the Georgia Child Support Guidelines. So it's going to be based on your income and his income, and there's, like, a calculated formula that they'll apply that to and come up with a set number, and they'll enter a court order, and he'll be required to pay that amount every month.

[Caller or Guest]

Okay, and then what about back child support? Because he's given, like, not a penny for the last year, they will not

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

do what's called a retroactive child support order, which is him paying a set amount each month. But if you can come to court and prove expenses he's had in the past that he hasn't helped contribute to pay for, they will make him contribute to those.

[Caller or Guest]

Okay. Like health insurance.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

I'm sorry, say that again.

[Caller or Guest]

Like health insurance.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

Things like health insurance. Just normal day to day costs. Right.

[Caller or Guest]

Okay, well, thank you for your time.

[Host Bert]

Thank you for calling. Bye.

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Bye.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

Bye.

[Co-host or Producer]

You can tell she's in a different place with it. She was all business.

[Host Bert]

Yeah. She's emotionally energetic.

[Co-host Male]

A, B, C, D. What else do I have to cross off my list? Thank you.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

And people that come into the office are usually one or the other. It's usually totally full of emotion or it's just a business transaction, one of the two.

[Host Bert]

And that doesn't have anything to do with the amount of time that the divorce has gone on?

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

Yeah, you would think it does. Some people 5 years later still have exactly as much anger as they had at the start of it.

[Host Bert]

Good morning, Rebecca. You're on Q100.

[Caller or Guest]

Hey, I'm in the middle of divorce, but it's been going on for about a year and a half. And we both have good attorneys. Only he has more money than me. I'm a single mom, two children, and he has no children. So he can continue to, you know. And I have full custody too. Well, you know, I have the kids mostly most of the time. Obviously nothing settled yet. So he's able to work and pay for his lawyer and I'm working. But obviously it's a little harder to dish out the money for the lawyer. So I'm wondering what, what do I do when I run out of money? Because I'm just about there. You can see a year and a half with a good lawyer. I've used up my resources.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

Sure. One of the, one of the things that the courts can do for you is the courts can make him pay your attorney's fees. And it's real common in a situation like yours where one. One spouse is kind of the money as opposed to the other one for you to go to court and ask the judge to make him contribute to your. To your costs.

[Caller or Guest]

But do you go to court alone or do you continue getting, you know what I mean, the charge it on your credit cards and then hope that that happens or you see, because they can't really go alone.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

You can actually do that in the middle of your case and have your lawyer and talk to your lawyer about that. You can do a temporary hearing in the middle of a divorce case to ask that he be contributing to your attorney's fees. The money that he's earning while the divorce is going on is still marital property. So he's spending marital property to pay his lawyer. He should be spending marital property to pay your lawyer also.

[Caller or Guest]

Okay.

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[Co-host or Producer]

And Evan, does it make a difference on who won't settle? Like if he's the one that's making this last longer, will that make a difference to the judge?

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

Definitely makes a difference to the judge. Go in and show that the reason the case has been going on for a year and a half is he's refusing to give up documents or he won't go to meetings or he's not entering into meaningful settlement discussions. The court will definitely kind of punish him for that.

[Host Bert]

When she said she'd been going through this for a year and a half,

[Co-host or Producer]

you went, I can't imagine it that

[Host Bert]

kind of stressed for that long the day to day.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

Although I'll say a year and a half is probably about average time it takes to finalize a contested divorce.

[Host Bert]

A year and a half?

[Co-host or Producer]

Well, that's when it's contested. When you don't agree on going back

[Co-host Female]

and forth and trying to settle.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

The quickest you can do it In Georgia is 31 days.

[Host Bert]

I mean, we saw Jen come in here all torn up for. For what us felt like a short amount of time, but for a year and a half to be going through that.

[Co-host or Producer]

Well, what was. What did you tell me before Evan was your longest.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

The longest was about two and a half years.

[Host Bert]

Wow. Good morning, Rhonda. You're on Q100.

[Caller or Guest]

Good morning.

I was actually calling up and divorced for six years. And in 2002, when I got a divorce, the judge gave my ex husband a house. Well, we never left each other alone. And in February of this year was two. Two years that I moved back in the house where he does not live. And I was just wondering. I've always thought about it, my name. We did a quick date before I even got married. Now could he still actually just come in and say, well, I want you to get out and I have to leave with my name on the deed. And I've been here after the divorce. I've been here two years. Could he just actually come and say I want you to leave or do you know what happens in that matter? If he ever just said I want you to leave when you have an

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

actual court order that gives him the house. Yes, the house is his.

[Caller or Guest]

You are.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

You're a renter who's not having to pay rent. So I guess that's a good situation for. Yeah man. That you leave at any time.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah. Okay, so what about that? If he were to sell the house and my name is on the deed Then I would get a. You know, he'd have to sell and give me something out of it.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

Well, the court order typically says something about who's going to get the equity in the house. If it doesn't, and it just says he gets the house, then he'd get the equity in the house.

[Caller or Guest]

That's all it says is he gets

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

the house, then that would include any value in the house. So if he sold it, the money would be his.

[Caller or Guest]

It was all go to him, really. Okay.

[Host Bert]

You hear the disappointment? Yeah. Wait a second. His name's on it and he gets the money.

[Co-host Male]

If I call back and change my name, will you give me a different answer?

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

But the good part is living rent free.

[Host Bert]

So let me take one more call for you. Seriously, when we have Evan on, we could do this for an hour, hour and a half. Let me take one more. Are you gonna say Jeff?

[Co-host or Producer]

Nothing.

[Host Bert]

Are you gonna say something? Jerrell, go ahead. You're on Q100.

[Caller or Guest]

Thank you. I'm calling because I filed for divorce back in oh3 on my own. I tried to do it on my own and then in oh six they dismissed it because they kept saying I didn't verify my address because he lives in New York and I'm here. So in March of last year, I paid for a lawyer to take care of the case and I'm still going through it and I just feel like he's dragging his feet and I want to know if I can get another lawyer because what happened originally when I paid him in March, he didn't file the papers until May. And at this point, my soon to be ex husband hopefully was waiting for the divorce papers and he never got them. So he went and got a lawyer and filed and. Well, so now there's two cases pending in the court system and I just, I need relief. I mean, roll age is not going to get it at this point and I'm just bugging out. I can't take it anymore. It's just bananas. So I just want to see if I can get another lawyer without feeling like my old lawyer is going to do something to damage the case or whatever.

Not at all.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

You always have the right to get a new attorney and to change attorneys if you're not happy with the attorney in the case. I will tell you, though, I tell everyone it's expensive to hire a new attorney in the middle case. So first and foremost, sit down with your attorney and see if you can fix things. Have a heart to heart, talk with them. I'm not happy with the representation and see if in speaking to them, you can get them to kind of get on board and make you feel better about it. But if it's at a point where you feel like not listening to you or you're not getting any action from the attorney, then at that point, you really may want to consider attorneys.

[Host Bert]

Evan's website at Hunter, Weinstein and Summerstein. Like I said, every time we have Evan on, phone lines light up. We could do this for Sue. Seriously, three straight days. All right, Evan, great stuff. Thank you very much for your time. Appreciate it.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

Thank you, guys. Y' all have a great morning.

[Host Bert]

You too.

[Co-host or Producer]

Bye now.

[Co-host Male]

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[Host Bert]

CBS 46 has the same pet peeve that one of our listeners, Allison, has as well.

[Co-host Female]

Okay?

[Host Bert]

And I think we have all seen it. And I gotta be totally honest with you, I've done it before also. Not often, but at least one time. I was guilty of doing this.

[Co-host Male]

I can never, ever do it. Yeah, it's like it's karma to me.

[Host Bert]

I can't even remember what my excuse was in my head for doing it, but I borrowed my mother in law's handicap.

[Co-host or Producer]

I remember. And she was mad at you when

[Co-host Female]

she wasn't in the car with me.

[Host Bert]

She wasn't in the car with me.

[Co-host Female]

What was I using that for?

[Co-host Male]

Was it Christmas shopping at the mall or something?

[Caller or Guest]

Parking at an arena?

[Host Bert]

No, it wasn't that.

[Co-host Male]

See, I've never borrowed anyone's sticker. But I'll never. I will never. Even if. And it bugs me because the post office near my house has three handicap spots right in front of it that are always open. And then for whatever reason, it's a huge pain in the butt to get to any other. Like all the other parking spots are way down the aisle. And I'm tempted every time, but I can't do it because it's almost like karma, right? And they're always empty. They're consistently empty. And they're the ones that have the two handicap spots with the big. I think it's for the van, you know what I mean? Like a van has a wheelchair lift. They have the big striped box in between each spot. And I've even thought about just pulling into that box because technically I'm not.

[Host Bert]

But I'm like, no, I remember what the circumstance was now. It was during my knee rehabilitation. Do you remember that? And I was driving around my mother in law's truck because it had more leg room. I couldn't get into my 3/5, so I had the crutches in the back. And I was late for one of my rehab appointments. And at Northside, they have. Or Northside, they have a whole bunch of those handicaps. You ended in a hospital. I did, I did, man. And I justified it by saying, look, are 15 handicap spots here and they're not going to miss one. Plus I got a bum knee. So technically right now it was wrong.

[Co-host Male]

Now the bum knee, I just.

[Host Bert]

I hung up.

[Co-host or Producer]

Say you do get more points for

[Host Bert]

the bum a little bit, but not a little bit.

[Co-host or Producer]

But not totally.

[Host Bert]

Not much.

[Co-host or Producer]

No, no, it's a slightly more under. No, no, you're right, I don't, I don't.

[Co-host Male]

But I mean, you probably.

[Host Bert]

Gray area, but not much.

[Co-host Male]

You probably could have gotten your own.

[Host Bert]

Yes, I could have.

[Co-host Male]

Because of your knee.

[Host Bert]

CBS 46. Tell me about this, Jeff, because they are doing a feature on this very thing, right?

[Co-host Male]

Yeah. They had one of their reporters go out and bus people who are parking in handicap spots without any identification. And then they pop out. Like I kind of imagine them hiding behind some shrubs. Then they pop up with the camera and did Lyndall give you some of the audio? I hope it prints on the air. I haven't watched it. But the descriptions that came with the video that Lyndall or the audio that Lyndell gave us were like girls flipping off the camera and guys like getting violent. Like one guy got into the CBS 46 van or something and refused to get out. Threatened to call the cops on them even though he was the one parked in the handicap spot.

[Host Bert]

Here's a clip from CBS 46. This is supposed to Run tonight, I think.

[Caller or Guest]

Can you tell me why you're parked

[Commercial Announcer]

in a handicapped parking place without a

[Caller or Guest]

sticker and my partner handicapped. But don't put that on the news, please.

[Commercial Announcer]

Well, you were doing the wrong thing.

[Caller or Guest]

Okay, but let me ask you a question.

[Host Bert]

Is this your car?

[Caller or Guest]

Please don't open my car.

Okay, but.

[Host Bert]

I'm sorry.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

Don't push me.

[Caller or Guest]

Put your hands on me.

[Commercial Announcer]

Don't put your hands on the car.

[Caller or Guest]

Please call 91 1. Call them please too, because I want to. I want to report your harassment.

We're looking at people that are parking

[Commercial Announcer]

in handicapped parking places without a.

[Caller or Guest]

A sticker.

[Commercial Announcer]

Can you tell me why you don't have a sticker?

[Caller or Guest]

How you don't have a sticker?

You want to show it to me?

I'm a car dealer. Do you know I have a sticker or not?

[Commercial Announcer]

I don't see one displayed. You can get a ticket for not having it.

[Caller or Guest]

It's $500.

You know my name?

[Host Bert]

Sure.

[Commercial Announcer]

What is it?

[Caller or Guest]

Okay, that's what I thought.

[Host Bert]

So I guess he was. It sounded like he was reaching into the van or something like that to open up the CVS 46 van or the car that she was in.

[Co-host Female]

See, if I make her feel guilty, if I confuse her, then I'm responsible for what I did.

[Host Bert]

I mind shook her right there. Here's a handicap parking. Someone parking in the spot and I think she ends up flipping off the camera.

[Commercial Announcer]

Is your name Walter?

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah, it is.

[Commercial Announcer]

You're born in 1936.

[Caller or Guest]

That's my dad's sticker.

[Commercial Announcer]

Do you think it's fair to use someone else's sticker?

[Caller or Guest]

Really? Well, I see people park here all the time without a handicap sticker at all.

[Commercial Announcer]

What if there's someone that really is handicapped that can't, you know.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah, I may. I made a store run for him, so.

[Commercial Announcer]

Thank you. Is it fair to those that really need.

[Caller or Guest]

What about the people who park here with no handicapped sticker at all?

What about you?

[Commercial Announcer]

What about that, though?

[Caller or Guest]

But what about you?

[Commercial Announcer]

Is it fair for you to park in a place when you don't really need it?

[Caller or Guest]

It's not your sticker.

Excuse me.

Is that fair?

Yeah, I believe it is, actually.

Thank you.

[Host Bert]

And then she gets the finger, I think right there.

[Co-host Male]

Like the logic is fascinating.

[Host Bert]

You can justify. That's what I did. I justified it. I knew it was wrong.

[Co-host Male]

But you had a bum need. The justification is I'm making a store run for him. It doesn't matter. You're still healthy.

[Co-host Female]

I think most people, when they're busted for something, then they'd rather come up with an excus.

[Host Bert]

You know what?

[Co-host Female]

You're right. I was wrong.

[Co-host Male]

At some point, you just gotta go, busted.

[Host Bert]

I did the wrong thing.

[Co-host Female]

If a TV camera's in my face and I had done that, knowing that I did something, I'd be like, you got me?

[Host Bert]

Who you gonna believe here in the tape? Who are you gonna believe? Who you gonna believe? Allison yesterday wrote us just by coincidence. Cause she has this very same pet peeve. She works at a hospital, and she watches people every single day that are perfectly able to walk 100 yards into the hospital, park in spots.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

And.

[Host Bert]

And she wrote and she said that there's actually a website where you can call out these people called Handicapped fraud dot org. You can put pictures up. You can put their driver's license up. The date of the offense and the place where it happened also.

[Co-host or Producer]

Really?

[Host Bert]

And started nailing people on it. Hey, desiree, you're on Q100.

[Caller or Guest]

Hey. I just want to say my aunt is constantly stealing my grandmother's handicapped bark

parking spot to just get, you know,

like you said, like 100ft or 100 yards so she doesn't have to walk. And it's really. It really.

It really irks me.

[Co-host or Producer]

It's gonna get worse over the holidays. I bet that website you were just talking about, Bert, is going to be full of new pictures and information over the holidays.

[Host Bert]

It's handicapped fraud dot org.

[Co-host Male]

Let me ask you a question, because I got this photograph from a listener, and I don't know if it's worth calling the person out for. Bert says there's some gray area because of this person's occupation and where they place the car, but I almost think they should be called out.

[Host Bert]

Yeah. This one doesn't bother me at all, though. It's not a handicap spot. It's a police officer that is parked in between two handicapped spots in that sort of striped spot in between that Jeff was talking about.

[Co-host Male]

And if you look carefully, his car's directly in front of the cutout on the curb, so the wheelchair can't go up.

[Host Bert]

Yeah, I think probably as a police officer, you get that.

[Co-host Male]

I think that pass.

[Host Bert]

Because you don't know what's going in. He might have rushed in.

[Co-host or Producer]

Yeah.

[Host Bert]

Yeah, he did.

[Co-host or Producer]

If he was showing up in a hurry.

[Co-host Male]

Yeah, he rushed in to get in line at the post office.

[Host Bert]

Oh, is that what it was?

[Co-host Male]

There's no official business with this.

[Co-host or Producer]

Yeah.

[Co-host Female]

If you rush into a place, usually the cop car is, like, parallel with the.

[Co-host Male]

And the lights will Be on. Yeah, but this guy was running an errand to the post office and parked right there. Blocking.

[Co-host Female]

That's a whole other topic about how cops sometimes will abuse the law because they can. Because they're cops.

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

Man.

[Host Bert]

If I was, I'd be going through those intersections with my light on and not get any of those stuff. I'd go, too.

[Co-host Female]

The light comes on, and you're going through a red light, and then your light goes off and you keep going. You're not chasing it. Okay, Went through the red light.

[Co-host Male]

I would do the same thing.

[Host Bert]

Hey, Patty, you're on Q100. Good morning.

[Co-host Male]

Job Perkins.

[Host Bert]

Hey, guys.

[Co-host Female]

Hey.

[Caller or Guest]

I've got a great story. My children are grown now, but years ago, the daycare center that I used was next door to a senior citizen center. But the director of the daycare was exasperated because she posted signs. She did everything. She talked to them personally. Please don't park in the handicap spots. There was three at the front door. You know, can't do it. So I said to her, I'll take care of it. I pull in one afternoon, there's a woman in a Mercedes loading her kids.

And I said, excuse me, did you

know that's a handicap spot? Spot? Well, she cussed me out and told me I must not have young children. And I was like, I'm at a daycare. And let me just tell you, my children are not a handicap. They're a gift. So the next day, I get ready to leave work, and I call a friend of mine who's a cop in the city, and I said, look, I'm going to pick up my kids. Please go there. I pull in, and guess who is getting a ticket. This Mercedes is getting a ticket. Crying, being dramatic. She did not know. That's kind of said, sister, you cussed me out yesterday. I said, dig out your $500 and handle it.

[Co-host Male]

Is that. Is that what the fine is? 500 bucks?

[Co-host or Producer]

Yeah, it should be at least that.

[Host Bert]

Sometimes it's posted. It's even more than that.

[Co-host Male]

I think they should cut off one of your legs if you park in a handicap spot. They should remove your leg, but then you'll.

[Co-host Female]

Then you'll finally get your sticker.

[Co-host Male]

No, but then they don't. But they don't give you a sticker. That's your punishment. They do that thing that the woman I'm Misery did. They put the log between your. Yeah, yeah. And they whack, whack. And then they're like, all right, well, can I get a sticker?

[Host Bert]

And you're like uh, you really need help. The bird show.

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[Caller or Guest]

Well, we've been going out for about three years now.

[Host Bert]

Okay, so is this the first time the parents are meeting each other?

[Caller or Guest]

Yes, my parents are McCain supporters. His parents are huge Obama supporters.

[Co-host or Producer]

Okay.

[Co-host Female]

Are they going into the weekend knowing that they're from different political views?

[Caller or Guest]

No.

[Host Bert]

Can't you guys like say, look, let's just not talk politics tonight?

[Caller or Guest]

If it was that easy. But my dad is a bit. It's not gonna go that way unless we just have a really interesting conversation for two hours. But he feels like his. His mentality is, this is going on in the world. What else can we possibly talk about?

[Host Bert]

And I think we said this on Friday also. You're just like, we are a week away from the election here and there are a lot of families that are lying to each other about who they're voting for to stay out of conflict. There's a lot of people that aren't talking about it at all. Right? Yeah.

[Co-host or Producer]

Not talking about it with each other, just trying to avoid it and because you just don't want it to ruin relationships.

[Host Bert]

Aren't your parents in that situation where,

[Co-host or Producer]

I mean, the mom's not really talking to my dad about who she's voting for?

[Host Bert]

Is she not talking or is she completely Lying.

[Co-host or Producer]

She's just not talking about it.

[Host Bert]

Does your dad think she's voting one way? Is he sure she's voting one way?

[Co-host or Producer]

I don't know. I just know that she's not really telling him.

[Co-host Female]

It's not really lying if you don't say anything.

[Host Bert]

Hey, Erica.

[Caller or Guest]

Hello.

[Host Bert]

Good morning. How are you?

[Caller or Guest]

I'm finding yourself.

[Host Bert]

Good.

[Co-host or Producer]

Now, I had it mixed up this morning earlier when we talked about you. Your parents are the McCain supporters.

[Caller or Guest]

Right.

[Co-host or Producer]

And then boyfriend's parents are the Barack Obama supporters. Right, Got it.

[Co-host Female]

I'm trying to figure out if your voice is sarcastic and like, oh, I'm fine, how are you? Or if you really had a good weekend.

[Caller or Guest]

That doesn't sound good.

[Co-host Female]

So what happened?

[Caller or Guest]

Well, let me tell you what happened.

[Host Bert]

Okay.

[Caller or Guest]

His parents came and picked me and him up from his apartment. We drove over to my parents house. They saw the sign on the yard and they totally blew it off. You know, so we ate dinner, got in the house, we ate dinner and everything went fine. During the dinner we had really good conversation until the end. My dad is like, oh, so I hear you guys are Obama supporters.

[Host Bert]

So you did have the talk with your dad before. The first time he knew this was when he saw the sign.

[Caller or Guest]

Say that again.

[Host Bert]

We had said on Friday we had sort of like gave you the advice to have the talk with your dad before he got to the house to see the Obama sign. So did you do that or was the first.

[Caller or Guest]

No, I did, I did. My mom knew and they were, they acted as if they weren't going to say anything.

[Host Bert]

Okay.

[Caller or Guest]

So my dad starts this conversation and my boyfriend's parents are like, yeah, we are, but you know, we're not going to talk about that right now.

[Co-host or Producer]

Okay.

[Caller or Guest]

You know, or whatever. And then my dad goes on and is like, well, why don't you want

[Evan Summerstein (Divorce Attorney)]

to talk about it?

[Caller or Guest]

You don't know enough about it.

[Host Bert]

All right, so let me put.

[Caller or Guest]

And then he had the nerve to say, well, you know, things are going to get worse if Obama, you know, gets in on and on and on.

[Host Bert]

Now did your boyfriend have the same talk with his dad that you had with yours? That, look, they're McCain supporters, we're just going to avoid it during dinner. Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer]

Okay.

[Co-host Female]

And let me get this close. This is at your parents house.

[Caller or Guest]

Right.

[Co-host Female]

Okay. Because I mean, that also plays a role because since it's in their own house, they feel comfortable enough to challenge their territorial boy. But if he was the guest and doing that. Right.

[Host Bert]

Okay.

[Co-host Male]

Right.

[Caller or Guest]

So I, I got up and I just ended It. I was like, we're going to catch a movie. We have to go, you know, And I just asked his parents to drop us off.

[Host Bert]

So you cut the dinner?

[Caller or Guest]

I haven't talked to my dad at all.

[Host Bert]

So you cut the dinner short and said, we're gonna go see a movie instead of finishing the dinner out?

[Caller or Guest]

No, we had finished the dinner.

[Co-host Female]

It was at the end of the dinner.

[Caller or Guest]

That's why I was like, you're so random. Like, why? It was just. He's just horrible. I don't even know why he did that, why he pulled that. It was almost purposeful because we had just finished dinner.

[Co-host Female]

So you said that. Now, did you ever have a conversation with your dad? Because I know you said you're not. He haven't talked to him. Did you ever have the. I don't know. Did he ever explain himself or.

[Caller or Guest]

No, I haven't talked to him since Saturday.

[Co-host Male]

You don't need an explanation. Like, everybody is hardcore for one person or the other thinks that they can talk to talk anyone else into voting for that. He's just one of those people, no offense, had to let it. He's just one of those passionate people.

[Host Bert]

Couldn't let it go. Couldn't let it go. We should have said this also on Friday, too. In a dinner like this, I hope there wasn't any wine or alcohol being served at all, because normally you want to do that just to settle everybody down a little bit, but in a case like this, it just stirs up the juices.

[Caller or Guest]

Right. We did have a little wine, though.

[Co-host Female]

And this week's gonna be bad.

[Host Bert]

Yeah.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah. So.

[Host Bert]

So now there's this lingering tension between the families now,

[Caller or Guest]

kind of sort of. His parents were just like, wow. I don't know if they have tension, but they were just like, wow, that was kind of awkward.

[Host Bert]

So his family sort of just took the high road on the whole thing. Said, we're not gonna talk about it.

[Caller or Guest]

Right.

[Co-host or Producer]

I wonder if anything will change after the election, if it'll be more tense between them or less.

[Co-host Female]

Maybe you guys should have dinner on

[Co-host Male]

Tuesday or not, and you can all watch the results come in together.

[Co-host Female]

Yeah, that'd be really fun activity. No, I think they need to cool it off even after the election, because I remember the last election, people were pumping their fist, you know, at the results of the last one. And if you weren't happy with the last one, then that was a little resentful. And that happened a day after.

[Host Bert]

There's so much at stake. I mean, if you're passionate about your candidate. You really feel like the country will be going in the right direction if your candidate is elected. And it's going right into the. Into the wrong direction if it's not. You know?

[Caller or Guest]

But I think it went to a whole nother level. My dad, like, totally disrespected my boyfriend's family. What do you not know enough about it? Like, that was totally disrespectful.

[Co-host Female]

Have you talked. I mean, has your boyfriend, like, treated you any differently after that? Because sometimes, you know, it may. I don't know. Hopefully he's.

[Co-host Male]

Or is he not blaming you for

[Caller or Guest]

what you want to deal with? My. Was my dad. Which is understandable.

[Host Bert]

That's why I say there's gonna be this lingering tension between the two. Because, yeah, actually, what he did was pretty disrespectful.

[Co-host Male]

And I would also avoid the parents between now and then. Cause the last thing you need is your dad saying to your boyfriend, so, who are you voting for? Or his parents saying that to you? Like, just stay away. It's only next Tuesday. Or a week. In a day or a week.

[Host Bert]

Yes. Let it go.

[Co-host Male]

Lay low. And on Wednesday, it doesn't matter.

[Host Bert]

Right? All right, Erica, thanks for sharing with us.

[Caller or Guest]

Thank you.

[Host Bert]

Talk to you later. Bye. Bye.

[Caller or Guest]

All right, bye.

[Host Bert]

The Birch Show.

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