Jeff (1:30)

We have a listener on hold, have our expertise on right now and his name, the name we're going to call him is Brad.

Melissa (1:36)

Okay.

Jeff (1:37)

And Brad is going to share his story with us and then need some guidance from the Birch show listeners. Brad, the floor is yours.

Elf Drew Ski (1:45)

Yeah, I got a question. My wife went out for I guess a ladies night, girls night out. And she came in really, really late and I was already in bed sleeping. And when she came in, I woke up and you know, she got ready for bed and everything and then, you know, I just asked her, you know, did she have a good time? She said, yeah, I had a good time. And then she turned over and went to bed and kind of thought that was weird.

Melissa (2:18)

And Then aware that your wife was a woman. A few words.

Jeff (2:22)

Yeah, I can understand that.

Elf Drew Ski (2:29)

And then the next day, I noticed a hickey on her neck. And she had told me, she had told me that she had seen her girlfriend who has a five month old baby, and she said the baby had given her a hickey.

Jen (2:53)

The baby gave her a hickey.

Melissa (2:54)

And where was it?

Elf Drew Ski (2:55)

Well, she gave her the mark that was on her neck.

Melissa (2:58)

Okay, so it was this hickey. Because if the baby did, it'd still be a hickey. Right. Is on her neck.

Elf Drew Ski (3:06)

So I got a question. There's two questions. I was like, is it possible for a baby to give you a hickey in that kind of way? And the second part is, should I believe her?

Jen (3:17)

Mm. Weird.

Melissa (3:20)

I can just tell for. Tell you from my experience, friends who've had children that age and older who have. I've had children sit in my lap and, you know, and babysat in high school, and I've never had the experience of a child like, beelining into my neck to suckle.

Jen (3:41)

Yeah, they usually want your keys. They want to put your keys. You put your car keys in their mouth, your cell phone goes in their mouth, but not your neck.

Melissa (3:49)

And naturally, I mean, even with a child with its own mother, I mean, they are putting something in their mouth. So it's not. I don't know how common it is for a child just to have a place of skin and just start.

Jen (3:59)

And you know, I have heard of other women saying that babies who are nursing will go for another woman's breast because they're kind of used to that. And maybe if they're hungry, they're going to start leaning in that direction. Like, I have heard of that before.

Melissa (4:11)

But I'm not a neck, which is natural, but, but. And then like in even fingers, you know, like. But again, it's something you're putting. The baby is, you know, just mechanically putting something in its mouth. So I. I honestly don't think that that is a truthful story.

Jen (4:26)

Maybe we can get some help from moms who have experienced this or not experienced it. I don't know.

Melissa (4:31)

And that is the most unique excuse I've ever heard for Hickey.

Jeff (4:35)

She at least gets a point for that creativity. Hey, Vicky.

Kimber (4:40)

Yes.

Jeff (4:40)

Hey. How are you?

Jen (4:41)

Hey.

Kimber (4:41)

I'm great.

Jeff (4:42)

Good.

Kimber (4:43)

I had. When my little baby, when you hold him, you know, know, like up against.

Sean (4:46)

Your shoulder, you've got to speak up.

Jeff (4:48)

A lot for us.

Melissa (4:48)

Yeah.

Kimber (4:48)

When you hold them up against your shoulder, they can do that. I've had them left it almost kind of like, like a line shape.

Jen (4:54)

A line on your shoulder.

Kimber (4:56)

Yeah.

Jen (4:56)

Okay.

Kimber (4:56)

When they want to pass you or something.

Jen (4:58)

Okay.

Melissa (4:58)

Okay. Now was.

Jen (4:59)

What was.

Melissa (5:00)

What did the mark look like on your wife's neck? Brad. Brad.

Jeff (5:04)

Hey, Brad.

Elf Drew Ski (5:05)

Yeah?

Melissa (5:06)

What? What did the mark look like on your wife's neck? Was it like a line or was it a circle?

Elf Drew Ski (5:11)

It's more of a circle.

Jen (5:13)

Okay.

Jeff (5:13)

Like a hickey.

Melissa (5:14)

Yeah.

Elf Drew Ski (5:15)

Yeah.

Jeff (5:15)

Hey. Hey, Marian.

Elf Drew Ski (5:17)

Hey.

Kimber (5:17)

Hey. I actually, my ex sister in law used to let babies give her hickeys on the chin because she liked to let them suck her chin. So it can be done, but it's gonna. Yeah, whatever.

Melissa (5:27)

Yeah.

Kimber (5:27)

I divorced out of the family, so I'm just like, whatever. But okay.

Melissa (5:31)

Random information the whole day, the whole.

Jen (5:33)

Side of the family.

Kimber (5:34)

But anyway, yeah, it can be done. But I don't know about on the neck. I don't know how you would have to position the baby to do it or whatever.

Elf Drew Ski (5:41)

That would.

Melissa (5:41)

And that would just be odd. Like, you know what I'm all for, you know, my, my neck being manipulated, but not by a five month old.

Kimber (5:49)

Yeah.

Melissa (5:52)

I just, I really think even if the baby started. Started doing that, which I still don't think a baby would, on your neck, I would pull it away. Like she has to leave it there long enough for that to mark to be made right. And a baby doesn't have the suction that some men would.

Jen (6:07)

Well, the other, the other question, I think, Brad, is that you said your wife kind of like wasn't really talkative with you or intimate with you after girls night, that she had just gone immediately to be like, her behavior is also suspect. You know, if she had come home and said, oh my God, this, I was talking to Mary and her baby was sucking the side of my face. Can you believe this? Check this out. Can you believe that the baby left this mark? If she had been up front with you, I think it'd be less something to worry about. But since she was kind of secretive, I mean, I know when I come home from girls night, my husband is very excited to see me because I've had some things to drink and I want to talk and interact and do.

Melissa (6:44)

All kinds of things.

Jen (6:45)

Interact and interact.

Melissa (6:47)

Interact with that with very few words. Right.

Jen (6:50)

But I, you know, I think it's more suspect that she just like turned off the lights and went. Rolled over and went right to bed, you know.

Melissa (6:58)

I mean, now would she normally. Now you know your wife better than we do. Would she normally come home and be talkative? I mean, Is she a talkative person?

Elf Drew Ski (7:05)

Um, yeah. She wouldn't do what she did the other. She wouldn't do that.

Melissa (7:10)

Okay.

Elf Drew Ski (7:11)

So that was the other night. She would say something because I asked her did she have fun? And then she said yeah. And then she kind of like, I'm tired. And I says, I'm really tired. And she just went to bed.

Melissa (7:20)

So it's kind of out of the ordinary.

Jeff (7:21)

Hey, T.C. you're on.

Elf Drew Ski (7:22)

Hey, how's it going?

Jeff (7:23)

Hey, how are you?

Elf Drew Ski (7:24)

Hey. All right, first, the first question he had about the baby. I know that babies when teething, I know they can leave a hickey or leave a mark. So I can see where that coming from. But on the second half, I think you should reserve judgment and see if it happens again because if she is out doing something with somebody else, she's gonna repeat it. You know, it. I don't think it will be a one time deal. So, you know, just kind of you. You know your wife better than anybody else, so kind of feel her out.

Melissa (8:00)

Maybe don't let TC go. Yeah. I want to ask a question. First of all, tc, when you say that baby make these marks, whatever, where exactly on someone's body have you seen these marks been made by a child?

Elf Drew Ski (8:12)

Like right at the collarbone, right at the base of the neck, you know, where they can get something that they could bite onto.

Melissa (8:21)

Okay.

Elf Drew Ski (8:21)

But not like high up behind the ear or something like that. No.

Melissa (8:24)

Okay.

Jeff (8:25)

We'd be doing a whole different subject. Small of the back.

Melissa (8:30)

Now also, like if she. Let's say that she is having an affair of some kind of. So she comes home and she turns over. Now obviously she was busted because she. She realized there was a mark on her neck. And like Jen said, let's say her actions are suspect and she just turned over, do you really think that a hickey is going to re. Emerge? Like it's almost as if she saw. Oh, you know, she won't let that happen again. I mean, tc, do you really think that he needs to wait for more evidence or. I mean, in a marriage, shouldn't you be. Shouldn't you be honest about a concern? Like instead of being accusatory, just, you know, being, I don't know, like shouldn't be honest with each other?

Elf Drew Ski (9:06)

Well, I don't. I don't mean for him not to communicate his concern.

Melissa (9:08)

Uh huh.

Elf Drew Ski (9:09)

But if she's bold enough to do it in the first place, for the most part, a lot of cheaters will cheat until they're caught.

Jen (9:17)

Right.

Melissa (9:17)

Okay.

Elf Drew Ski (9:18)

You know, so I Mean, confront her on it. Talk to her about it. Express your concerns and just reserve judgment and watch her pattern. See if it happens again.

Jeff (9:28)

Thanks for the call, T.C.

Melissa (9:29)

Thanks, T.C.

Jeff (9:30)

Hey, bird show.

Kimber (9:31)

Hey, this is Kim. And she is lying, lying, lying, lying, period.

Jeff (9:36)

Do you think she's telling the truth.

Melissa (9:40)

Now? What exactly?

Kimber (9:41)

Let me tell you how I really feel.

Melissa (9:42)

Yeah, exactly. So what? You know why?

Kimber (9:45)

You know, I breastfed both of my children. And I have been around all my friends, everybody I've been around, everybody has breastfed their children. And one of the key things that everybody is saying about how the children have possibly given somebody else a hickey when. When not nursing. It's a protruding part of the body. Okay. Maybe a child's gonna suck on your thumb. I could possibly. Maybe. See the shoulder, collarbone.

Melissa (10:11)

There's something going in its mouth.

Jen (10:13)

Exactly.

Kimber (10:13)

Something that's protruding the neck. There's no way. There's no way you're just gonna have a baby just come up and start sucking on your neck.

Melissa (10:20)

Unless it. Unless it's starting that.

Kimber (10:22)

Name me one person in their right mind that's gonna let a baby do that.

Melissa (10:25)

It's not like that'd be weird.

Kimber (10:27)

It's very weird. Not to mention the fact that everybody's saying. Also the thing with the whole teething issue, especially if the child's got teeth, they bite, Right?

Melissa (10:36)

Yeah. That's a good.

Jen (10:37)

Well, we did have a chin sucker.

Jeff (10:38)

Call earlier who doesn't get those.

Jen (10:42)

Yeah.

Kimber (10:42)

You know, my child did that all the time.

Melissa (10:44)

Yeah. I'm fascinated by people. Chin sucker family. She's totally lying now, Brad, exactly where on her neck was the mark? Like, we haven't asked you that.

Elf Drew Ski (10:54)

It's sort of like in. Up from the collarbone.

Jeff (10:59)

So it's not like on the corner of the bone or the shoulder?

Melissa (11:02)

No, it's kind of midway on the.

Elf Drew Ski (11:04)

Neck or a little bit below.

Melissa (11:06)

A little bit below. Sorry, Brad. Yeah, I know. Yeah. When did this happen? When did this party happen?

Elf Drew Ski (11:14)

Two nights ago.

Melissa (11:15)

Two nights ago. Okay.

Jen (11:17)

Are you. Well, I guess. See, the little inspector Gadget in me wants to go, like, you know, do some recon and, like, I was wondering if you're friends with any of the women on girls night or if you're friends with any of the girls, husbands, and kind of find out, like, were they really at girls night?

Elf Drew Ski (11:33)

You mean, ask one of her friends?

Jen (11:34)

Ask one of her friends or the.

Elf Drew Ski (11:36)

Husband, wouldn't they be suspect?

Melissa (11:38)

See, I. I really think you need to ask your wife. I mean, because you're just gonna make it worse. By going behind her back to her friends and asking them. I really think this is a marriage and you've got to be, you know, got to communicate. And so I think you should voice your concern to your wife with an open mind, you know, and let her and just. And like the other caller said, just watch her reaction and watch your actions and. And make your decision from there. I'm sorry, though, that you're so upset.

Jen (12:06)

I'm sorry.

Jeff (12:06)

That kind of sucks, huh? All right, thanks, Br.

Elf Drew Ski (12:10)

All right, thanks.

Melissa (12:12)

That kind of sucks, dude. Way to go, Jeff.

Elf Drew Ski (12:14)

Didn't even mean to say that.

Jeff (12:17)

It's. I feel so bad because people. You know what?

Melissa (12:19)

You feel bad.

Jeff (12:20)

Yeah. Because here's people who come on our show either want resolution to a matter and we end up 50. 50.

Melissa (12:25)

Right.

Jeff (12:25)

Or they just want confirmation of what they already know is the truth.

Jen (12:29)

Right.

Jeff (12:29)

Like, they've got like one grain of them coming on and like the calls are going to be filled with. No, it happens all the time. Covered in hickeys. I go like a slut.

Melissa (12:36)

I got so many hickeys.

Kimber (12:37)

It's nuts.

Jeff (12:38)

And it never turns out.

Melissa (12:40)

But I. That, that is a first, though. I have never, ever heard a woman who has a big, you know, like dime sized, you know, blood mark on her neck say that that was caused from a baby.

Jeff (12:51)

The blood mark. I've got the mark of the blood. The Birch show.

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Sean (15:24)

Anybody see Desperate Housewives last night or Sunday night?

Melissa (15:26)

I should say, no, I missed it.

Jen (15:27)

Yes.

Sean (15:28)

I love that show.

Jen (15:29)

I'm obsessed.

Commercial Announcer (15:29)

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Jen (15:30)

And I've gotten my husband obsessed about it too. Like, I was like, oh, it's Sunday, Desperate Housewives. And he l said, oh, yay. And I was like, did you say oh yay about Desperate Housewives? He's like, oh, I did, didn't I?

Sean (15:44)

See, I can't tell if it's a really good show or we're desperate for a show that is anything like Sex and the City.

Jeff (15:50)

No, it's a good show.

Sean (15:51)

Is it a good show?

Jen (15:52)

Yes, it's a really good show. You know, I was reading this morning that more than double the people were watching Desperate Housewives on Sunday night, then were watching Teri Hatcher win her award at the Golden Globes for Desperate Housewives Sunday night. They put the Golden Globes up against it and it did terrible. The ratings in comparison, it was like, I think the rating was like an 11 point something for desperate housewives and like 5 point something for the Golden Globes.

Sean (16:16)

Well, Desperate Housewives on Sunday night, I thought they took a really interesting avenue. And I want to get your guys opinion on this. When we're all going through high school, we are all like, I just can't wait to get through high school. Get away from the cliques, get away from all the judgments and just be ourselves, you know. And in Desperate Housewives on Sunday, they made the observation that high school never really ends. And just to set this click up for you or this clip up for you, the deal is this, that Teri Hatcher's got herself into some, some real big problems here with another character on the show, Edie, and she's really starting to kiss her butt. And in this scene right here, Teri Hatcher and Edie are on the side of the road while Edie's car, that the tire went flat on it. And she starts to look at Teri Hatcher like, look, you didn't like me before, so I know you're up to something. Why are you being so nice to me now? This is very similar to what used to happen to me in high school. And she makes a pretty interesting observation. I want to see if you guys think it's true.

Kimber (17:18)

Bet you were a cheerleader in high school, weren't you?

Mrs. Claus's Sister (17:21)

My junior year. How'd you know?

Kimber (17:23)

Girls like you are always cheerleaders. Clear skin, nonerald popular.

Jen (17:29)

In high school, I was the girl.

Kimber (17:31)

That hung out with the freaks from the loading dock and smoked. Everyone hated us. Well, you know high school.

Mrs. Claus's Sister (17:38)

Thank God we leave that behind.

Kimber (17:41)

See, I don't think we do. I'm still the outsider that doesn't get invited to the cool parties. And you're still the perky cheerleader who thinks that she can pull the wool over everyone's eyes. What? You came on this trip, paid for the gas, and look at you. You're changing this flat when you know I have auto club. You want something from me. I just know Mrs. Hoover's death's been hard on you. I want to help. That's a lie.

Mrs. Claus's Sister (18:10)

Why would you think I was lying?

Kimber (18:12)

Because we're still in high school. The old rules apply.

Sean (18:15)

Okay, so is that true? Like do we ever really leave high school? Like the Persona that you have in high school if you're the cheerleader that just had to, you know, basically crack a smile and pretty much got what you want, does that ever change? Throughout life, if you were the jock and you got special treatment when you're out of high school and you become an adult, do you go to another clique or do you still remain in the jock clique as an adult?

Jen (18:37)

Well, see, I think it depends on what happens to you. Because I think if the popular cheerleader girl gets pregnant at 18 and ends up having a whole bunch of kids real early on in life, like, she's not going to have the same life that she did in high school. And if the really popular jock guy gets big and fat and bald, then he's not gonna have the same privileges. You know what I mean?

Jeff (18:58)

Like, that's always the hard on him.

Jen (19:02)

But that's always the cliche of when you go back to your, what, 20 year high school reunion, that everything is different at that point and we focus.

Melissa (19:08)

On the cheerleader, the jock. Like in that clip, Edie was the one talking, correct?

Sean (19:13)

Right.

Melissa (19:13)

And she was the one on the dock, like she said, smoking. You know, the thing is, she's still stuck in the same mode of not trusting anybody and everybody is getting more than she is. So, like, she's just as guilty as she is claiming Teri Hatcher to be. So it's not just the jocks and the cheerleaders. I think a lot of times the ones who were left out of the cliques in high school may still live that life as an adult. I don't think it's everybody. I think, you know, I think, you know, if you hated what you were going through, you adjust it to something that works. But if you were cheerleader and jock and really enjoyed that lifestyle, I do think you try to keep that going as long as you can.

Sean (19:47)

I think you do too. 404-741-1005 Good morning, Sean. You're on the Burt show on all the hits. Q100.

Elf Drew Ski (19:54)

Hey, what's up, Burt? Hey, man, how's it going?

Sean (19:57)

It's going good. Just wondering if, like, do we ever really leave, like the cliques that we had in high school or do we remain the same person throughout our whole lives?

Elf Drew Ski (20:06)

I'm gonna have to say, I guess it would kind of depend on the person, but me personally, I did. I'll shoot you straight up. I was pretty dorky in high school and now, like, I got out of high school, started hanging out at the clubs a little more, you know, got into dance and stuff like that and became like really pretty, pop a lot of friends. So, yeah, I would have to say it can possibly change. Yeah.

Sean (20:27)

Do you Find yourself, though, as the guy that was dorky in high school and has made the transition to cool guy. Do you find yourself letting everybody know how cool you are now because you're still trying to hide the dorky Persona from, from high school?

Elf Drew Ski (20:40)

Really? No, because I basically act the same. It's just, it's more accepted now than it was back then.

Jen (20:45)

It's like Little John. Have you seen that picture of Little John when he was in high school? It's the dorkiest thing you have ever seen. We've got to find that. I think it was in Blender magazine last month and it is the dorkiest picture you have ever seen. And Lil Jon's like super cool guy now.

Jeff (21:01)

He's super crunk.

Jen (21:02)

He's super crunk.

Sean (21:03)

Good morning, Jenny. You're on all the hits.

Kimber (21:05)

Q100 hi bird. I just wanted to let you know I think you have it right to a good degree. I think people can change like their last caller said. But I work in a company that has a lot of sales people and the absolute best salespeople are the jocks. And the ones you can tell are like the popular girls and the cheerleaders because they have that whole schmoozing personality and they know how to kiss up better than anybody.

Melissa (21:27)

That's almost a good observation. You can look at a sales department and see you can kind of guess who the old jocks and cheerleaders were.

Kimber (21:34)

Oh, you totally can tell. They're so obvious. So I think like the last caller, I think I've changed so much from high school and fit into the mainstream a little bit. But you can tell the ones you've stuck to their personalities.

Jen (21:44)

Do you think it's the social skills? Do you think that they became the cheerleaders and the jocks and stuff in high school or the popular crowd because they had better social skills than the other people?

Kimber (21:53)

I think somewhat, I think a lot of that stuff, personally, I believe it stems from insecurity too. Yeah, like a big old cocky jock and you know, then all of a sudden you get treated like one.

Elf Drew Ski (22:01)

But I think, I think it has.

Sean (22:03)

Very, very little to do with your personality. And I think it has to do with your, in this case, athletic ability and how good looking you are. Like, I can already see, like when I go to pick up Hayden from daycare, I can already see how adults treat the good looking kids differently than they treat the kids that aren't as good looking. I could already see it happening.

Jen (22:23)

Like really.

Melissa (22:24)

And I think in my school it was not only. And it wasn't always looks because not, you know, for me, not every cheerleader was. I mean there were non cheerleaders who are better looking physically, but also money where they came from. In my high school it was the, the kids who lived in the better neighborhoods ended up being the ones who were. They evolved into those circles.

Sean (22:43)

Hey, Diane, do we ever truly leave high school?

Kimber (22:46)

You know, I think we do. I recently went to my high school reunion, 30 years. And my small school on the Gulf coast was very cliquish, extremely cliquish. And I was not part of that group. I was shy and I was raised on a farm and I just totally wasn't the cheerleader type. Very studious. And when I walked in the door of this place, it was, it wasn't like going back 30 years. It was like meeting whole new friends. I mean the whole group. My boyfriend was with me and he said, gosh, I didn't realize that you were so popular in school. And I said, I wasn't. I totally wasn't. It was awful. Was awful. So, you know, I don't know if the clicks were in my head or if those people just changed, but they're now some of my best friends. I mean, they're awesome.

Sean (23:39)

So I think adulthood just brings dorkiness. And as you get older, everybody has the common factor of we're all dorky.

Melissa (23:45)

You embrace him, you embrace it. At that point you reach your inner dorkiness. When you're in control and can, you know, move where you want to and take whatever job you want to, then, yeah, you're a little more comfortable with it.

Sean (23:55)

I will say at the 10 year high school reunion, still same cliques. Everybody that was hanging out in their cliques, at least in my school, was hanging out at the 10 year high school reunion in the same clique.

Melissa (24:04)

And my 10 years. Kind of interesting how the people who were at the head table, the people who were the most personality and organized everything, were the people that stayed in my little small hometown who were not the cheerleaders and jocks. And it was almost as if they were able to be the big shots at this reunion. So it almost was reversal at the tenure. Yeah, it was interesting.

Sean (24:32)

Good morning Sam. You're on the Bird show. All the hits. Q100.

Kimber (24:35)

Hi. Yeah, I'm. I mean I'm young and I can't tell you about people who are like 40 and how things go down when they're 40, but people like pretty much between almost about 30 years old, I can say that it carries with them, even the kids that really. People who didn't really have clicks and who didn't really have, like, to be. Who weren't like, I guess, as you guys would call it, the jocks and the cheerleaders and stuff, it carries on with them because I can just. I work in a restaurant, so I work with a lot of people that are older as well, and they kind of. I don't want to say it. I mean, they're not. They're not real. Like me and a couple of my friends, like, we. I guess we dress kind of like we were those kids in high school, and they. They totally treat us with disrespect. Like, it carries on with us.

Melissa (25:16)

Who were you in high school?

Kimber (25:18)

I did. I was not a cheerleader by any means. I mean, I had a lot of friends.

Jen (25:22)

But you were in the popular crowd.

Kimber (25:24)

I mean, I guess. I guess. But I wasn't. I don't.

Jen (25:28)

I don't know.

Melissa (25:28)

I wasn't really. Maybe you'd have to know where you were in high school to know whether or not you're in it as an adult.

Kimber (25:36)

I don't know. I don't know. But I just see people that I work with that kind of hate on the people that dress like that, and they're not very nice, and it carries on with them. They're bitter.

Melissa (25:43)

Well, I'm sure if I dress. If I dressed the way I dressed in high school, I'm sure that I would be ostracized too.

Sean (25:48)

There you are in your Styx tour jacket.

Melissa (25:51)

I got my tight jeans that, you know, they're tight at the ankle. Little High waters got. What else did I wear? Direct jeans and the big sweatshirts. The two sweatshirts. One that I cut designs in over another color with the belt that hangs down beneath my waist. I think I get laughed at if I.

Jen (26:08)

If I busted out my starter jacket.

Melissa (26:11)

I'd be in a lot of trouble. Members only wear.

Sean (26:15)

Yeah, no, I have my choose life T shirt on today. Frankie says I'm wearing that one tomorrow.

Melissa (26:23)

And I've got. Yeah, I got my hair all permed and jacked up. Yeah.

Sean (26:26)

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Jeff (28:41)

I have a question for Jen and Melissa and actually all the women in the room can answer this. So I have a question for everyone except for Phil.

Melissa (28:49)

Yeah, don't feel excluded or anything.

Jeff (28:52)

What is the proper protocol? Is it like. I guess I'm asking you. Is this why you would break Would you break up with a guy over this, or would you stand your ground? This is a true story. A woman I know has been dating a guy for a few months, and he has a baby with another woman. And he's a good dad. And he sees his kid, like, every weekend or whatever. And he normally picks up and drops off the baby with the mother's parent or the mother, the grandparents. His grandparents. But because of holiday schedules and everything, a week or two ago, when he dropped off the kid, the mother was actually there. And they have a pretty. They have an okay relationship, but there's still a lot of, you know, anger. I guess he. I think he cheated on her and that's why the relationship ended. So he drops off the baby and the mother's there, and they have one of those conversations like, how have you been? I mean, good. How have you been? Good. You know, like, tension. And she asked the question, are you dating anyone? You know, so. So you back in a relationship now? And he says, actually, yes, I'm dating. And he tells the person who says who he's dating, and somehow it's within the realm of acquaintances. So she knows who this girl is, and she goes, oh, that's. Oh, that's real cool. Well, make sure, you know, next time, make sure you tell her that next time I see her out anywhere, I'm gonna beat her ass.

Jen (30:17)

Oh, my gosh. Serious baby mama trauma, right?

Jeff (30:22)

So he's like, yeah, whatever. He goes back, and then he tells his current girlfriend that story, and he kind of laughs it off. The problem is the current girlfriend doesn't really think she was kidding. Like, thinks this girl is nuts enough to maybe do it.

Jen (30:38)

So I gotta rewind. First of all, why is she dating a guy who ruined his marriage by cheating on his wife? And I don't think that really makes him a good daddy.

Jeff (30:46)

Right.

Jen (30:46)

Even if he does see the kid.

Jeff (30:48)

Every weekend, and I might be mistaken, I'm assuming. You know, in his defense, I don't know if that's why. I know the reason they broke up. It was his call. Like, he decided to break up with this woman, so she's mad at him, and I'm assuming that he did something wrong. Maybe he's just. Maybe she's just nuts. But he broke up. He ended the relationship with her, and they.

Jen (31:08)

And your friend has been dating this.

Jeff (31:10)

Guy for just a couple months, like four months now.

Jen (31:11)

I say get out. Yeah, because I don't think.

Jeff (31:16)

Does that make you look like a coward?

Jen (31:17)

No, I don't think that a situation after four months is serious enough to. To like worry about risking it. And then the other thing is, if this is how it is after four months, what's it going to be like if she's with this guy forever? Like I'm thinking four years down the road she becomes stepmom and then real mom is this crazy psycho.

Melissa (31:37)

I think that obviously his issues with the ex have not been resolved to. I mean I'm not saying that you obviously have to be best friends with an ex, but there, you know, are some exes where you know what, it's just. They let it be. It ha. You know, their relationships in the past. And I think that if there is enough tension between them in just a casual like him dropping a child off to the point that she's gonna threaten physical harm or whatever, there's still beat her ass, there's still passionate emotions going on there that if I'm in a casual relationship thinking about making this go further, I would back out because I don't want that. I don't want that.

Jeff (32:15)

But you of all people, Melissa, like wouldn't you stand your ground and go, I am not gonna let this woman who I don't even know dictate who I am dating.

Melissa (32:23)

You can't separate. I can't separate a couple. Like I. Because I also. Who is being honest in here? I mean like he relayed the story to you, right, Jeff?

Jeff (32:34)

No, the girlfriend did. The girl who.

Melissa (32:37)

But she got a. She got a description of what happened through him. Yeah, two sides to every story. You know, he obviously was like, you know, all I said was, hey, yeah, I'm fine, I'm dating. So and so she went off, you know, and that conversations don't happen like that. You know, both people contribute to the drama. And I think that I would after four, like Jen said, after four months I think is crucial. And I would be like that would. That I would really consider leaving. Absolutely.

Jeff (33:04)

Hey Kim.

Kimber (33:05)

Hey.

Jeff (33:05)

Hey. Go ahead.

Kimber (33:06)

I was gonna say, unless the girl is totally in love with him and wants to do the rest of. Wants to be with him the rest of her life, she should get out of it. Cuz it's kind of a scary situation to be in, right?

Jeff (33:16)

Aren't all girls. Doesn't it only take about 4 months for you guys to fall completely in love and decide you can't live without the guy?

Kimber (33:21)

Yeah, I doubt that.

Jeff (33:22)

Isn't that what it takes? Four months? No, 120 days.

Jen (33:26)

Whatever. Jeff.

Melissa (33:26)

And Jeff, I know you said like, you know, I am certainly not afraid to Stand my ground. But I think at this part of my life, if I was, in all honesty, if I was getting with a woman now and four months from now, her ex girlfriend is going to beat my ass. That's too immature for me.

Jeff (33:40)

Hey, Michelle.

Kimber (33:41)

Hey, how are you? I'm doing fine. Yeah.

Jen (33:43)

This morning, either immature or white trash. One of the two.

Jeff (33:46)

Go ahead, Michelle.

Kimber (33:48)

I really, I totally agree with Jan. She's only in it for four months. She needs to get out because, you know, this girl's always going to be in their life because, you know, they have a child together. You know, there's always going to be some kind of drama.

Melissa (34:01)

That's true.

Jeff (34:01)

Hold on. Another Michelle weighing in. Thank you for the call, Michelle. Number two.

Kimber (34:05)

Yeah, I think that it's pretty obvious that he's still sleeping with the baby's mama. For her to be so jealous like that, there's got to be something still going on.

Jen (34:16)

Could be.

Jeff (34:17)

Couldn't she just be crazy, though?

Kimber (34:19)

She could be, but for him to still have contact with her like that, he must like it for some reason and.

Melissa (34:25)

Yeah. Is she crazy, though? Sometimes I wonder if that's just some way to, you know, what for him. For him to call his ex wife or ex girlfriend or ex wife. I can't remember what you said.

Jeff (34:36)

Ex girlfriend.

Melissa (34:37)

Ex girlfriend. The mother of the child. For him to say, oh, if he said, oh, she's just crazy, that would make me question him. Like, come on now. You're not completely innocent in the relationship, you know.

Jeff (34:47)

Hey, Laura.

Kimber (34:47)

Yeah, go on. If you're in a situation and it could be on a Jerry Springer show, you've got to get out.

Jen (34:55)

Very good point.

Kimber (34:56)

After four months, I don't think people see clearly enough. They're still in love.

Jeff (35:01)

Save that because that could be word. That's words of advice from Laura. So save that. If you are in a situation that could be on the Jerry Springer show, you need to get out. We can go back to that again and again. Thanks, Laura.

Melissa (35:11)

I want to go back to the caller who thinks that the parents are still sleeping together.

Jen (35:16)

Yeah, that's a good point, too.

Melissa (35:17)

Do you think that they may still be some kind of relationship for her to go off like that?

Jeff (35:23)

I don't know. Some women are. You know, my point of view. Women are nuts.

Jen (35:27)

You don't think that he could still be sleeping with her? You know these people.

Jeff (35:30)

Yeah, he may. I don't know him that well. He may or may not, but I think women can just be crazy.

Jen (35:35)

Hey, Chad, with or without the sex.

Elf Drew Ski (35:38)

Hey, Jeff, I agree with you. I believe women are crazy. I say don't be a pushover. Go there and beat her ass first before she gets to you.

Jeff (35:44)

Thanks for the call.

Elf Drew Ski (35:45)

Thank you.

Jeff (35:46)

Thanks.

Melissa (35:46)

Now, Jen, was that white trash or immature?

Jen (35:50)

It could be a little bit of both. Anytime anybody uses the P word, I shut down.

Melissa (35:54)

And then I'm gonna go beat your ass before you beat mine.

Jeff (35:57)

I'll go get you. I'm gonna get. I'm gonna find you. I'm gonna get you. Hey, Lisa.

Melissa (36:00)

But it's okay if you're a Rams fan and a Falcons fan.

Sean (36:02)

It's okay.

Jeff (36:03)

That's right. If you were talking about football, Chad, it's okay. We would have let that go. You would have been all set.

Jen (36:07)

But.

Jeff (36:08)

Hey, Lisa, you're up.

Kimber (36:09)

Yeah, I just disagree because I've been in the same situation and he's now my husband and we have two kids together, and she said the exact same thing and she never did anything. And matter of fact, now we're. I mean, we get along now.

Melissa (36:23)

What happened to make you get along? I'm curious.

Kimber (36:26)

I mean, it took a while, but I mean, she just eventually just realized that we were going to be together.

Elf Drew Ski (36:30)

She.

Kimber (36:31)

The girl's obviously just jealous and. Because my husband left her, too, and now we're married and we have two kids together and been married for a while, so.

Jeff (36:40)

You say they get along. Does he have a kid with her or something?

Kimber (36:43)

Yeah, he has. He has a kid with her. And now he's my stepson, and he lives with us Monday through Friday and goes over there on the weekends. And she is perfectly fine with it. I mean, we took him to his open house for school together. I mean, it's okay now.

Jeff (36:59)

You know, the rule on the bird show is unless they have a kid together, no friends with the exes. Unless you're Phil Tyranno.

Kimber (37:04)

I mean, I wouldn't say we're buddy buddy that we go out all the time, but, I mean, we can have a decent conversation without arguing.

Melissa (37:10)

Right?

Jeff (37:11)

Thanks for the call.

Kimber (37:12)

Okay.

Jeff (37:12)

All right, last call from Hope.

Kimber (37:14)

Hey, I had a comment in regards to the fact that the parents might still be sleeping together. I don't think that's the case. I was in a similar situation. My ex husband started dating someone, and it wasn't so much that I still had feelings for him as much as it was that it was the first significant other after a serious breakup. And anytime there's kids around, I think people get a little more possessive or territorial as far as what kind of people are going to be around their kids.

Melissa (37:40)

Well, I agree. I think that there is, you know, a different set of tension when your ex starts a new relationship with somebody else. But I mean, this person actually said she would seek out and be, you know, physically harm somebody.

Kimber (37:56)

Right. Well, being in a similar situation, and I'm not bashing men here or anything, but I believe that he said something to drive her to that point. You see what I'm saying?

Melissa (38:05)

Oh yeah.

Jeff (38:05)

Melissa or James said that.

Melissa (38:07)

I said that. Yeah. Nobody goes off like that, so to speak, without it takes too to have a conversation like that, you know. And I just. I think the way he conveyed it was. Yeah, all I said was this. And she just all said went crazy, you know. And yeah, she. He said. He said or appeared to feel something, you know.

Jen (38:26)

Right.

Jeff (38:26)

Definitely poked her with the stick sitting there, just bugging her like this.

Melissa (38:30)

Like you do with us.

Jeff (38:31)

Right from time to time.

Elf Drew Ski (38:33)

The bird Show.

Kimber (38:37)

Hola.

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