Full Show PT 1: Tuesday, May 19 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show – Full Show PT 1: Tuesday, May 19 [Vault]

Original Air Date: May 19, 2026
Hosts: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, Wendy, Melissa, Jen, and listeners
Podcast Theme: Relatable, humorous morning radio show blending entertainment news, personal drama, listener call-ins, and pop culture.

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Episode Overview

This episode features classic Bert Show banter, listener drama, real talk about lifestyle struggles (lateness, weight loss), cultural commentary (the Pledge of Allegiance protest), and light-hearted segments including a deep dive into failed relationships and budget Thanksgiving. The cast’s comedic relatability shines as they riff on each other, field listeners’ calls, and include special guests (Atlanta chefs) with practical, down-to-earth advice.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Wendy’s Celebrity Assignment & Taylor Lautner Name Debate

(Starts ~01:31)

• Wendy gears up to cover a red carpet event in Knoxville, with an assignment to interview Taylor Lautner and maybe even get a photo.
• Banter about Lautner’s name pronunciation:
  • Melissa: “You gotta tell him he’s pronouncing his last name incorrectly.” (01:49)
  • Wendy reveals nerves about the assignment, overthinking outfit choices and what to say.
• The crew coaches Wendy to maintain composure among the competitive press, drawing on prior aggressive American Idol coverage experience.
• The gang jokes about getting a “legal touching” (photo-hug) with Taylor and not embarrassing themselves like an overexcited fan in a viral trailer reaction clip.
• Memorable moment:
  • Dramatic reenactment of the “wolf” scene from a movie trailer, with exaggerated fangirl reactions.
  • Jen (re: pedophilia joke, notably outdated humor): “Remember, kids, if you’re gonna commit pedophilia, document it.” (04:00)

2. Kid Resists the Pledge of Allegiance

(Starts ~06:22)

• Conversation pivots to Will Phillips, a 10-year-old who refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, citing the phrase “liberty and justice for all” as inaccurate due to ongoing discrimination against LGBTQ+ people and others.
• Will, age 10:
  • “There really isn’t liberty and justice for all. There’s gays and lesbians that can’t marry. There’s still a lot of racism and sexism in the world.” (07:23)
  • Shares he wants to be a lawyer and is bullied (called a ‘gay wad’—which he doesn’t fully understand).
  • “For there to truly be liberty and justice for all... That entails everyone being able to marry.” (10:15)
• The crew admires his outspokenness and imagines his future as a relentless courtroom advocate.
• Wendy: “I want him representing me now.” (08:25)

3. Struggles of Chronic Lateness

(Starts ~13:01)

• Wendy confesses chronic lateness frustrates her and wonders if it’s self-sabotage or a control issue.
• The team debates whether lateness is forgivable (Melissa says 10 minutes is fine; Jen is stricter).
• Wendy: “It’s almost like there is this mental sabotage you put upon yourself to make sure you don’t get there on time. Isn’t it weird? There’s some sort of strange psychology in it.” (15:06)
• Listeners call in with their own hacks (like giving a chronically late person an earlier fake start time) and theories (lateness as subconscious control).
• Listener Meredith: “My son’s birthday invitation says 5:30 for them, everyone else’s says 6.” (20:17)
• The group reflects on guilt, lost time, and possible solutions (changing clocks, calendar tricks, self-discipline).

4. Relationship Report Card—Born Again Virgin Debate

(Starts ~25:51)

• “Amanda” volunteers for the Relationship Report Card: ex-boyfriends call in to explain why things didn’t work out.
  • Previous pattern: Amanda starts relationships partying, then dials it back, leading to conflict with younger, wilder boyfriends.
• Eric’s story:
  • Dated Amanda six months, same age group.
  • Fun trip together, but after, she announces her New Year’s resolution: to become a “born again virgin” until she’s sure she’s marrying the right person.
  • Eric is blindsided; tried for a month before breaking it off.
  • Eric: “I thought I was being punished for something... It was a real bad mind game for me.” (33:33)
• The team debates whether one can ever be “born again” after sex; Wendy worries this reflects unnecessary shame for women.
• Melissa: “There’s no such thing. Once that’s gone, it is gone. You can’t will it to be again.” (32:48)
• Listener “Christine” pushes back, emphasizing the spiritual/religious angle and defending Amanda’s right to make that choice.
  • Christine: “God is wiping away your sexual sins from the past night. Don’t agree with that... But [it’s] what it’s called in the Christian faith.” (36:42)
• The hosts clarify their issues are mostly with the semantics—not the personal choice.

Listeners’ Theories on Amanda’s Patterns

• Several suggest Amanda self-sabotages or subconsciously torpedoes relationships when they get close, either by abstaining physically or withdrawing from shared interests.
• The psychology and gender dynamics of sexual “resetting” are explored, with some wondering why only women claim this label.
• Wendy: “It’s fascinating that Amanda is attracted to men of such seemingly opposite characteristics as she has... almost as if she’s setting herself up for failure.” (40:48)

5. Budget Thanksgiving—Cooking for 12 Under $50

(Starts ~45:02)

• Chefs G (Four Seasons) & Hopkins (Restaurant Eugene) join to prove you can serve Thanksgiving dinner for 12 people for under $50.
• Chef Hopkins:
  • Advocates “focus on a few simple, high-quality ingredients... not a buffet with 12 items.” (47:26)
  • His menu: turkey thigh roulade with cornbread stuffing, radish and bacon salad, butternut squash soup. Under $40 for 12.
• Chef G:
  • Turkey meatloaf (mix of breast and dark meat with mushrooms), whole roasted pumpkin with sweet potato stuffing, pumpkin moon pie.
  • Spent $49.97 for everything.
• Advice for holiday cooking:
  • Brine turkey overnight: “1 cup of salt to 3 quarts of water.” (52:04)
  • Thaw turkey in the fridge for three days, never at room temp.
• Pro Tip: “If you don’t want to cook, stop by the Four Seasons—they’ll make the turkey, you get the credit!” (53:04)
• All recipes available online.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Taylor Lautner’s name:
  • “He says it Lautner... but we’ve been saying Lautner. Let’s hear how he pronounces it. He’s messing it all up.” – Melissa (01:53)
• On Will Phillips’ protest:
  • “For there to truly be liberty and justice for all... That entails everyone being able to marry.” – Will Phillips, age 10 (10:15)
• On lateness:
  • “It’s almost like there is this mental sabotage you put upon yourself... some sort of strange psychology.” – Wendy (15:06)
• On “born again virginity”:
  • “There’s no such thing. Once that’s gone, it is gone. You can’t will it to be again.” – Melissa (32:48)
  • “God is wiping away your sexual sins from the past night. Don’t agree with that.” – Caller Christine (36:54)
• On practical Thanksgiving cooking:
  • “Focus on a few simple ingredients that are high-quality as opposed to trying to build a buffet or a table with 12 different items.” – Chef Hopkins (47:26)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Wendy’s Red Carpet Assignment & Taylor Lautner Banter: 01:31–06:21
• Pledge of Allegiance Protest Kid (Will Phillips): 06:22–10:56
• Late People—Is It Ever Fixable?: 13:01–23:12
• Relationship Report Card—The “Born Again Virgin” Debate: 25:51–43:31
• Thanksgiving on a Budget—Chefs’ Tips: 45:02–54:17

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Tone & Language

• Conversational, witty, and self-deprecating throughout.
• Deep dives into pop culture and relationships, but never too heavy—humor rules, but the team is always “real” about personal and social issues.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode is a snapshot of classic Bert Show energy: playful, honest, and a bit irreverent but always grounded in empathy. You’ll laugh at their stories (and their listeners’), get nostalgic for red carpet Twilight mania, feel a tug from a 10-year-old’s activism, and walk away with both culinary tips and mini life-lessons on relationships and lateness. Fun, fast-paced radio comfort food.

Transcript

[Bert]

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[Jen]

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[Bert]

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[Jen]

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[Melissa]

Wendy's gonna be ducking out of here a little early. She is on assignment for the next 24 hours.

[Wendy]

On assignment to Knoxville, Tennessee, where Taylor Lautner. Lautner and Kristen Stewart are going to be doing a red carpet thing. And I have the assignment of going to get the Taylor Lautner interview and make out session.

[Melissa]

Yeah, the first thing you got to do is tell him that he's pronouncing his last name incorrectly.

[Wendy]

Yeah, he says it Lautner on the interview we just had with him. But we've been saying Lautner.

[Melissa]

Let's hear how he pronounces it. He's messing it all up.

[Caller]

Q100 and the bird show. Hey, what's up? It's Taylor Lautner.

[Wendy]

Playing so I got to tell him he's saying his name wrong. Yeah, yeah, it's Lautner.

[Bert]

That's the first thing.

[Melissa]

That's your first impression right there. So yeah, they're, they're going to be up in Knoxville. So you've got, you got to be able to control yourself tonight here because you're all excited about Lautner and all that, but you got an assignment you need to bring back. You speaking, you're doing an interview with Taylor.

[Wendy]

I think I can handle it. I'm a little nervous right now because, I mean, the drive up there, all I'm gonna be thinking, what do I ask? What do I ask? What do I do when I see him? How am I gonna do my hair? How's my outfit gonna look? I hope I look alright. Is he gonna come to me? I don't know.

[Jen]

You should just sing him. You belong with me.

[Wendy]

Oh, I mean, bring my guitar and be Taylor Swift.

[Melissa]

Or this one, just sing him a little Justin Bieber.

[Caller]

No.

[Wendy]

I'm so excited.

[Melissa]

Say, Taylor, this is my ringtone for you. The thing about these red carpet deals also here, Wendy, that you're gonna have to keep in mind is that it gets really competitive. I mean, you gotta keep in mind there's a whole bunch of people that, that are gonna be jockeying for any words at all that they can bring back to their TV station or a radio station. You're gonna have to somehow, some way muscle your way up to the front of that line and it gets vicious in some of the, it does get pretty aggressive.

[Wendy]

Wendy and I both experienced it at American Idol. Yeah, me and Jen did American Idol and we were pretty aggressive there.

[Bert]

Got some good interviews.

[Wendy]

But yeah, I'm gonna be aggressive with this one if this is my one. To be this close to Taylor Lautner, it's gonna happen. Yeah, definitely.

[Melissa]

And we can't forget that Kristen Stewart's gonna be up there also.

[Jen]

Yes. You know who that is, right, Wendy?

[Melissa]

Yes.

[Wendy]

She's dating Robert Pattinson or she's not

[Bert]

dating, but dating, so.

[Jen]

And also, I mean, I think you have to try to get a picture with Lautner because that. Lautner, Lautner.

[Wendy]

Oh, absolutely.

[Jen]

You have to try to get a picture with him because I mean that

[Wendy]

right there, that way you touch, that is legal touching. If you take a picture, you slide your hand around, you can feel the rippling muscles in his back. Try out an ab. Yes. Yeah. Legal touching during the show.

[Jen]

You know what Bert always says at the end of every show, as soon as we get off the Air. Remember, kids, if you're gonna commit pedophilia, document it.

[Caller]

What?

[Jen]

So that's what you need to do. Just take a picture.

[Wendy]

Exactly.

[Melissa]

Yeah. And then we all, like, put our hands on top of each other like we're in a huddle and.

[Jen]

Yeah, we know this man.

[Wendy]

The hell is. Anyway, Wendy, I have total faith that you are gonna get this interview with Taylor Lautner and you're gonna get a picture with him.

[Melissa]

Let me give you an example of what you don't wanna sound like tonight, okay? This is you. Remember we played this for you a couple of months ago. This is the woman in England that was watching the new movie trailer for the very first time. It had just come out. She opens up her laptop, she turns the camera on, and then she starts watching the trailer and she just loses her mind. This is how you don't want to sound like this tonight, okay?

[Jen]

Oh, my God. I can't wait. I can't wait.

[Caller]

I almost. I almost don't want to watch it so that I can, you know, watch it again later.

[Bert]

Deep breath.

[Caller]

Okay, Here we go. Play the beach. Oh, my God.

[Jen]

Oh, my God.

[Caller]

I need to pause it right there.

[Jen]

Oh, my God. What the f. Has Taylor done to himself?

[Caller]

Oh, my God, he's so hot.

[Jen]

I don't even care if he's, like, 17.

[Bert]

I don't give.

[Caller]

He's hot, okay? The boy is hot.

[Jen]

She needs to take the pair of dice out of her mouth.

[Caller]

And the wolf.

[Jen]

The wolf. It's a proper wolf. It's like a poof and it's a wolf.

[Caller]

It's a proper wolf.

[Jen]

It's not a little wolf.

[Caller]

It's a wolf. Should I say that? I'm gonna say that.

[Melissa]

Okay? Try not to sound like that. Your bar is set very low for that.

[Bert]

I can definitely achieve more than that.

[Wendy]

I will get the interview. Getting the picture. Go get it. Profile picture.

[Melissa]

Go get Taylor. Go get Kristen. Come back.

[Wendy]

No hyperventilating. No.

[Bert]

There will be no heavy breathing.

[Jen]

The bird show.

[Melissa]

Have you heard about this kid that's 7 years old that has refused to recite the Pledge of Allegiance at school?

[Wendy]

Why seven?

[Melissa]

10 years old. 10. He's gonna tell you about it. He was on CNN yesterday, and at 10 years old, he started listening to the words of the Pledge of Allegiance and he's like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Something doesn't quite make sense here. And until something's done about it, I'm not gonna recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

[Jen]

Joining us now in an exclusive interview are Will Phillips and His father, Jay. They're in West Fork, Arkansas for us this morning. When did you decide that you weren't going to stand up and recite the pledge?

[Caller]

I decided that I was going to do that the weekend before when I did it. I was analyzing the meanings of it because I want to be a lawyer.

[Jen]

All right, so what did you decide in analyzing the meanings of it that caused you not to stand up and recite the pledge?

[Caller]

Well, I looked at the end and it said, with liberty and justice for all. And there really isn't liberty and justice for all. There's gays and lesbians can't marry. There's still a lot of racism and sexism in the world. Yeah.

[Jen]

So your teacher, who was a substitute teacher at the time, was giving you some grief about not standing up, and this went on for a few days. What did you eventually say to that teacher?

[Caller]

I eventually, very solemnly, with a little bit of malice in my voice, said, ma', am, with all due respect, you

[Bert]

can go jump off a bridge.

[Wendy]

Oh, my God. With all due respect.

[Melissa]

Wow. 10 years old.

[Jen]

10 or 7?

[Melissa]

10. 10 years old.

[Jen]

Wow. With all due respect and a little

[Melissa]

bit of malice, you want that kid representing you in about 10 years? Oh, my God.

[Wendy]

I want him representing me now.

[Jen]

Yeah.

[Melissa]

So he's sitting on cnn. He's got his dad there with him also.

[Jen]

Is dad laughing like his dad laughs?

[Melissa]

No. Dad puts his, his face in his hands and he's like, oh, here we go. And he's, you know, he's sort of recalling the whole thing over and over and over again. So this is Dad's response on national tv.

[Jen]

Well, my initial response was measured and considered, thoughtful and was, he's dead.

[Melissa]

That's it.

[Jen]

He's doomed. However, when I got home and I talked to him, the more I heard from him, the more it became apparent that this wasn't a typical act of juvenile delinquency. This was a very atypical act of juvenile delinquency.

[Melissa]

So here you have this 10 year old that's not going to recite the words to the Pledge of Allegiance because he doesn't think, you know, that the words are accurate. So how did the other kids in school react to him not reciting the Pledge of Allegiance?

[Caller]

Not very good. They've taken from what I said an assumption that I'm gay. And the halls and the cafeteria, I've been repeatedly called a gay wad.

[Jen]

A gay wad. What's a gay wad?

[Wendy]

Don't ask that question.

[Caller]

I really don't know. It's a discriminatory name for homosexuals.

[Jen]

Okay. All right, Will, as we prepare to leave you here, we what will it take for you to stand up and say the Pledge of allegiance? And I asked this question based on, you know, what we saw in the off year election Just a couple of weeks ago, a same sex marriage initiative was put to the test, put to the voters in the state of Maine and every state across the nation where it has been put to the voters, it has gone down to defeat. So the democratic process is taking place here. Seems to be something that voters at large do not support. So what will it take for you to return to saying the pledge of

[Caller]

for there to truly be liberty and justice for all.

[Jen]

And what does that entail?

[Caller]

That entails everyone being able to marry.

[Melissa]

All right, a 10 years old kid taking a stand.

[Jen]

Man. Wow.

[Wendy]

Smart little kid.

[Melissa]

That impressive or love that kid.

[Wendy]

He's gonna get beaten up a lot. But I know

[Jen]

no he's not. Because somebody comes at him to bully him and he is gonna talk that person dizzy.

[Melissa]

He's ready to sue.

[Jen]

Now he's gonna be like with no prejudice and a little bit of malice, but if you strike me, I will take you before a high court and sue you for every penny that your parents are worth. All right, dude, just go ahead, get it.

[Bert]

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[Jen]

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[Bert]

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[Melissa]

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[Jen]

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[Wendy]

stuff about yourself that drives you nuts?

[Melissa]

Not one thing because I love it all.

[Wendy]

Yeah, I'm perfect. I irritate myself in a But I irritate myself most often because I am little miss 10 minutes late to everything. Like five to 10 minutes late for my life. And I cannot figure out how not to be late anymore. Like it just drives me every morning coming into work. I'm like hauling butt so that I'm not, you know, the 10 minutes late and I'm just running. If I had five more minutes, everything else would be so much better.

[Jen]

Now what would happen though, if you got up five minutes earlier, you'd still

[Melissa]

be five minutes late?

[Wendy]

I'd still be five minutes late because instead of getting out the door, I'd like wash the coffee pot. So then when I, you know what I'm saying? Like, for whatever reason, it just drives me crazy. And I don't know if anybody has gone through this and like been a reformed I'm always late person to now a punctual on time person. But I can't, I can't ever do it. Like here's a for instance, some of my friends, this couple I know well, just got married and bought a new house, right? So they're so excited and they're like newlyweds, they're in love. Bought this new beautiful home. So I'm going over there the other night and I buy wine to bring with me. I'm leaving. I have plenty of time to get to their home in time to be there. Dinner starts at seven, you know, but on the way, I think in my mind, I'm like, you know what? Wine is nice, but I should really bring a potted plant. And I should really bring a card that says, congratulations on your new home. So instead of getting there at seven, I pull off the highway, go to the Publix, get the. Get the plant, the potted plant, and the card. And then I check out, and then I get back in the car and I gotta sign the card and I gotta go, dah, dah, dah. And then I'm 15 minutes late. Like, why do I do it every single time? I drive myself nuts with it every day. Is it 10 every day?

[Melissa]

10 minutes late is still socially acceptable to me. It's not an annoyance. Zero friends really doesn't bother me at all.

[Jen]

Late is not acceptable. I'm guilty of it too.

[Wendy]

It's one of my biggest pet peeves. And I'm trying to figure out if any of the people I know that are always late, none of them have ever changed. And it's almost like, I wonder if it's this mental thing, because they always throw in an extra. Like, they know they have to. Yeah, they know they have to be somewhere, but somehow they purposely throw in the coffee pot that needs to be washed, which it really doesn't, to get you to work on time. The wine, you didn't need to get the potted plant in the card and sign the card and make sure the card was right and everything before you. So it's almost like there is this. This mental sabotage you put upon yourself to make sure that you don't get there on time. Isn't it weird there's some sort of strange psychology in it? Because I cannot figure it out.

[Melissa]

I'm on the other end of this. Like, if you're 10 minutes late to me, no problem. I would rather have you 10 minutes late than 10 minutes early.

[Wendy]

Like, if I was coming over to your house for dinner or meeting you at a restaurant. What if I was, like, meeting you at a restaurant and we said 6:30, and I show up by 6:40, I'm cool with that.

[Melissa]

10 minutes is fine after that. Then we're starting to get a little bit touchy. But after 10 minutes.

[Wendy]

But if you see each other every once in a while and you're hanging out. But if you're friends, or if it was Stacy that was always late, would that not drive you nuts?

[Melissa]

I think we both have a problem, probably with that, with being Late.

[Wendy]

See, you're on my boat, so you're not as critical.

[Jen]

Well, I'm on your boat too and it drives me nuts because to me, if you're supposed to be somewhere at 7 o' clock and you show up at 7:15, then you have just said my time, what I am doing, is more valuable than the plans you have made.

[Melissa]

Yeah. And for whatever reason, for me 15 minutes is a world of difference than

[Jen]

10 minutes or 10 minutes even.

[Melissa]

I don't know why they're doing.

[Wendy]

But for the person that's on time or early, like that's 20, like you 15 minutes late. The person who's gonna be on time more than likely got there about five minutes early. So you're talking 20 minutes of their time that they're just sitting, waiting on you.

[Melissa]

Right.

[Wendy]

And that's all they're doing. They could have been doing something. They could have been doing something. So it's kind of like what Jeff's saying. I think the irritation with people is in their mind, it's like, well why, why, why is everything catered to you? Why, you know, why can't you reward the people that got there early? You know what I'm saying? But that's not what. But that's not what you're asking. You're asking how to, how to fix it, how to get that, you know, just to pull that right. Like I've considered, like last week I actually considered maybe I will change every clock that I own.

[Jen]

Don't do it. Cause then you just do the math.

[Wendy]

And the one in my house. And I was even trying to figure out if I could change the BlackBerry, but I don't think I can. Cause that's such a reason you can.

[Jen]

Uh huh. But the problem is you do the math. If you set the alerts, you know that 15 minutes. Yeah.

[Wendy]

You know, somebody else would have to do it without you knowing.

[Melissa]

You start to give yourself a grace period. Yeah, that's really. Melissa, I think nailed it. Someone else has to fix everything else

[Wendy]

to change it for you.

[Melissa]

That's right. Without you knowing.

[Wendy]

Because people lie to you now. And I know it's. Yeah. I just. For whatever reason. And then of course in Atlanta you can always kind of try to blame it on traffic, but you, everybody has to plan ahead on traffic in this town. Do your friends lie to you about what time something starts? Because it gets to that point where you lie purposely. 15 minutes. Well they should, because 50. Kidding. But I mean you end up lying about to the person. Why?

[Jen]

If you have friends that you're consistently late with.

[Wendy]

Yeah.

[Jen]

Then I guarantee you if they want you there at 7:15.

[Wendy]

Yeah.

[Jen]

They will tell you that it starts at 7:00'.

[Melissa]

Clock.

[Jen]

They know. They'll never admit it to you, but they know that you're the one who's always 15 minutes late and they adjust it. And like I said, Jessica and I are just as that way.

[Wendy]

They're not waiting on you. They know you're not gonna show up at 7:15 so they're not sitting there, you know, getting anxious.

[Jen]

And that's what makes us feel terrible every time we're going somewhere where we know we're gonna be late because we do that to people.

[Wendy]

Do you have any ideas on how to fix it?

[Jen]

No. Cause I would have done it already.

[Wendy]

Really? But no matter what I said, I wish I was hopeful. Because a lot of my friends, my sister's this way. We tease about my sister, about how we're gonna hide her body and make her late to her own funeral if she dies before us. Because she's notoriously late. How late is she? I mean she's. It varies. It's not just a five or 10, it just varies within the hour. So sometimes it's five and sometimes it's over 30.

[Melissa]

There's so much comfort in it. It is so much more relaxing that the very few times that I've actually left the house early and didn't have to worry about the traffic cause I've left that buffer. It's so relaxing.

[Wendy]

Yeah, it's no stress.

[Melissa]

It really is no stress at all. And it's actually enjoyable. You're on the phone, if you make a wrong turn, there's no problem. But I can't train myself to do it consistently.

[Jen]

Is there anything worse than when you're pulling in? Like, remember I met you last week at Taco Mac and I was five minutes late and I felt like crap because even five minutes makes me feel like crap. You were 10 minutes late or 10 minutes late, however long I was. And I sent you. I knew when I was leaving because I can't remember what I was doing, but I knew I was gonna be late and I sent you the text message or whatever and then I got into that parking lot and there were no spots. And then the panic really starts to set in.

[Melissa]

Then everything irritates you. Yes, everything is irritating.

[Caller]

You move, move.

[Jen]

You know there's a 72 year old one legged man trying to put his wheelchair in the back of the car.

[Caller]

Oh, come on.

[Melissa]

There's a guy going 80 on 285.

[Caller]

Like can't you speed it up?

[Wendy]

Yeah, but it's a subconscious thing. I don't. I mean, obviously you're not meaning to do it, but there's something subconscious that.

[Caller]

Is there?

[Wendy]

Sabotage.

[Melissa]

Hey, Kee. Good morning. You're part of the Burt Show. Hi.

[Caller]

Hey. Good morning. I was just listening when she said that she tells her sister to be early. She always tells her the wrong time. My brother and my sister in law are constantly late for everything. So even when we send them a formal invitation, theirs has a different time on it.

[Wendy]

Really?

[Caller]

My son's birthday is next week. His party. Their invitation says it starts at 5:30. Everybody else's says it starts at 6.

[Melissa]

And they don't know that. So they can't adjust the time.

[Caller]

Nope. I don't know.

[Wendy]

That's hilarious.

[Jen]

You know what it. I had somebody years ago say that it's a control thing. If you're always late, then you control the start time of the event.

[Wendy]

I've heard that before.

[Jen]

That you are the one. And it's a subconscious control thing where you cannot let someone else be in control. So that means if you get somewhere at 7 o' clock or 6:55, that starts at 7 and the other person doesn't show up at 7, you subconsciously feel out of control. Because the start time was 7 o'. Clock. But now it's not gonna start until they get there. If I'd gotten here after 10.

[Wendy]

Gives them the control position.

[Melissa]

Yeah. Josh is saying he saw a Dr. Phil exactly like this. He just made this message to me and it said. He said it was a selfish thing. You could be on time, but instead you need to be more important than the other person. So you make yourself subconsciously late.

[Wendy]

God, what a diva.

[Melissa]

You suck, Jen.

[Wendy]

God, Jen. Well then why do I irritate myself so much with.

[Jen]

Because you can't let go of the control. It's a subconscious thing because you know it's wrong on the surface. You know it's wrong. Do you feel guilty?

[Wendy]

That's way too.

[Melissa]

Hey, Meredith. Good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller]

Hey, Bert. Hi, everybody. You guys are wonderful.

[Melissa]

Thank you.

[Caller]

Just won a holiday gift card yesterday for $500. Thank you very much, Brittany. But anyway, I'll get to the point, Jen, and I'm sure you are so sweet and you're a wonderful person. But what I would recommend, because I used to do this all the time, is. Yeah, you have got to set your clock back like 40 minutes before the hour. Then you need to write whatever Appointment you have on the calendar, let's say it's for 6:30. You need to write it. And I don't mean to sound rude, but you need to write it down that it's six o' clock drinks with Burt or whatever. And even if it's like 6:30 and then thirdly, you gotta follow it and you just got itself discipline. It's not, you know, it's not about, you gotta say, okay, even though I'm gonna be bored as hell waiting there 40 minutes early, I've got to do this. Because you know what? On the other side, it's really annoying.

[Melissa]

Who's got the time to be.

[Jen]

But changing all the times and writing appointments down, pointless because you will just look the clock in my bedroom because

[Wendy]

you know that it's changed. I think though, writing the appointment down because we have so many different ones,

[Jen]

you'll forget what time the real starts.

[Wendy]

Forget what time the start is because I'll put stuff, I mean, I'll put, you know, drinks with a friend I haven't seen in three weeks. It's on my calendar for three weeks from now. So if we're supposed to be sitting.

[Jen]

But if you consistently do it, if

[Wendy]

you consistently do it at 6, then

[Jen]

you'll know it's 6:30.

[Wendy]

Yeah, but I think three weeks out, I would forget.

[Jen]

Not if you're doing it with all of your appointments.

[Wendy]

You just have to stop trying to be the most important person in the room.

[Melissa]

Jen, is there another option that's difficult

[Wendy]

to do in here?

[Jen]

The bird show.

[Bert]

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[Jen]

N the Birch show here's what we

[Melissa]

know about Amanda so far. We know that she's 33 years old. We know we talked to her on Friday and she agreed to do Relationship Report Card where we line up a different dude every day and he details exactly why the relationship hasn't worked out. And in day one, John came on, said, look, we went out with each other in College. It was 13 years ago. I was drinking and partying and she was too for about a couple of months. And then she got real serious about the books and she wanted me to stay home all the time and I was 21 so it didn't work out. Then yesterday we talked to Nathan and he told US he was 21 while they were dating when she was 30.

[Wendy]

30. 30.

[Melissa]

30 years old. Same scenario there. He wanted to Party and do it up. He was 21 years old. He was going clubbing. He's going to the bars. And she's like, I am past this man. She started off hot, like, she was going out with him and drinking. And then a couple of months later, she didn't want to do it anymore, so she stayed home, and he kept going out, and that was the end of their relationship. So we do have that tie together. Today it is Eric who wants to be on the Voice Disguiser. Morning, Eric.

[Caller]

Hey, guys. How are you?

[Jen]

Good.

[Melissa]

How are you today?

[Caller]

I'm doing okay.

[Melissa]

How long ago did you date Amanda?

[Caller]

Well, we. We dated two years ago.

[Melissa]

Okay.

[Caller]

And we were together, like, really almost exactly six months.

[Melissa]

Okay, six months. Okay. And you're how old?

[Caller]

I'll be 35 in May.

[Melissa]

Okay. Somebody my own age got you a little older.

[Caller]

Two years older, I mean, but, you know, pretty similar in friends and age.

[Melissa]

And so Amanda for sure is listening right now, and she probably hasn't heard your voice in a while. So give us a snapshot, a description of the time that you guys spent together and started off, you know, with all the good stuff that happened in the beginning, and then just tell us where you started to see some red flags and then how it deteriorated for you.

[Caller]

Okay. Well. Well, we met through mutual friends, and I remember we hit it off right away. It was nice because we didn't meet, like, you know, we weren't fixed up. We were just out, and we really connected, and it seemed, like, really cool. And she's great. You know, she's. You know, my memory of our relationship is that we had a good time, but she's pretty serious about her career and work, and I like that. Like, I thought that was great. And, you know, we weren't kids, so this was, like, someone who I started looking at as, you know, possibly someone to hang out. So I think we were on the same wavelength in terms of where we were at in our lives for hanging out and maybe pursuing something long term. And I won't give you tons of details, but, like, here's what really happened. We went away on a vacation, and we had the best time. We just, you know, like one of those weak packages, and it was just, like, amazing. And she's a lot of fun, you know, and she. She's not like a party girl, but she was, like, really a lot of fun and sort of partied on the same level that I do. Like, like, you know, enough fun, but not crazy. But here's the wildest part. So. And this Is this is why. This is where it started to go downhill. We got back from the vacation and it was right after. It was like around the New Year's resolution time. And I'm not a big resolution guy, but I remember her saying, I'm going to make some resolutions this year. And I said, great, amazing. And you have to keep in mind that this is right after the vacation where we had a really good time and we're not kids.

[Jen]

Alrighty.

[Caller]

So she says, I've decided I want to become a born again virgin. No, no, no, no, no, no. Like, I'm not kidding you. And I thought she was kidding.

[Wendy]

Did you laugh?

[Caller]

What'd you say?

[Wendy]

Did you laugh right away?

[Caller]

Yeah, I just said, you're kidding. Like I said, you know, there's I want to lose 10 pounds and there's I want to quit smoking, and then there's, I want to become a born again virgin.

[Wendy]

So did that mean that she wanted to stay a virgin and that means no money how.

[Caller]

It was explained to me. And she just said, you know, I've. And I don't remember her being religious. I mean, I think that her family, they may be observant and they may observe holidays and whatnot, but I just remember her saying, this sort of came to me and I've reflected on this and this is like an incredibly important thing I want to do in my life. I just want to abstain from sex and I really want to sort of claim myself. I mean, that's the phrase she used, a born again virgin. And I want to do this until I'm really, really, really certain that you're me or anyone. But I certainly thought it was me because we were together, that you're the one that I'm going to marry and have children with. I mean, I didn't hear a lot beyond, I want to become a born again person.

[Melissa]

That's all you need to hear after that. Yeah, I can't. I mean, if I'm the guy and I'm the dude that's been intimate with my girlfriend now for six months and she all of a sudden says she doesn't want to do that anymore, I can't help but take that personally.

[Caller]

Yeah. And this was like at five months, and so I hung out, like, I thought. I thought, okay, this isn't gonna last. Who can? And really, like, we went like. I remember we went like a month and I couldn't handle it.

[Wendy]

Yeah.

[Melissa]

Oh, sure. You're gonna get a lot of support here.

[Wendy]

Yeah, I. Different conversation for a different time. I Just. I've never heard a guy say that they were gonna do that.

[Melissa]

To be a born again version. Yeah.

[Wendy]

I just wonder where that comes from. Why she did decided, like, up and

[Jen]

decided that a really bad vacation of lovemaking.

[Melissa]

Did she say why?

[Caller]

And then I thought, is it me? Like, is it, like, I really thought, like, is she trying to sort of, like, not say, you're not doing it for me? Like, I had. No. I. You know, it played a lot of games with my mind.

[Melissa]

Was she reading some kind of book or something? Which all of a sudden, she's making all these changes. Some kind of.

[Caller]

Well, you know, as I said, it was around. It was. You know, it was around the new year time. And, like, you know, she just. I guess she was, like, reflecting on what she wants to. What she wanted to do and give up and do with her life. And, you know, it was. We weren't living together, so, like, you know, we were dating, but. So I can't tell you what went on, like, in the privacy of her own thoughts about it. But. Yeah. And then things just got tense for me then. I was always in my head about. Of course. Yeah. I could never really. You know. And then it was, like. Then it was, like, really frustrating because we would, like, you know, fool around, but, like, really, like, we kiss and we, you know, we cuddle, and it just wasn't enough.

[Melissa]

I applaud you for sticking around for four weeks. I think you said it was a month I'd have been gone Right at the virgin part.

[Wendy]

Hey, Bert, joke.

[Melissa]

Weird, because I'm breaking up with you. And just as a sidebar here, and we've talked about this before, there is no such thing. Once that's gone, it is gone. You can't will it to be again. It is gone.

[Wendy]

It disturbs me that women feel so guilty about it. You know, it concerns me when we talk to Amanda on Friday that women feel. Yeah. That there's some shame in what they've done in the past.

[Melissa]

I just. I struggle with just the name of it. Rephrase it or something, because it's just a big old lie.

[Caller]

It's.

[Jen]

What, the born again virgin thing?

[Melissa]

Yeah. You got one shot at that.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Melissa]

Okay. So that was really it. Everything's going fine, and then all of a sudden, she decides, no more of this. And then you're out of there at that point.

[Wendy]

Okay.

[Melissa]

Easy stuff.

[Caller]

And, you know, when you're a guy, I hate to say it, like, it's. In some respects, it felt like I was being punished for something or That I would. And then I thought, wow, did I offend you in some way? Like, it was just really. It was a real bad mind game for me.

[Melissa]

I gotcha. Mm. Okay, cool. I'm sure she's listening right now. We are not putting her back on today to debate it or.

[Wendy]

Although she's screaming right now at the radio. But it's getting longer. Huh? What is it?

[Caller]

I have to say one thing.

[Jen]

Sure. Oh, no.

[Caller]

She's a great gal and, And, And. And, like, really terrific person. And. And I really enjoyed her. But that, you know, maybe in retrospect, she. I hope she'll understand, but it just. That wasn't cool with me. That's all.

[Melissa]

So had she not made that announcement or that life decision, then the relationship would have continued on, you know, as

[Caller]

far as I was concerned, I really thought, like, things were going great and we were having a great time. So I can't tell you, like, if two years later we'd still be together, But I know that I would. I had every interest in staying with her at that point. And. But that. But that part of a relationship is important to me.

[Melissa]

Okay, cool. I'm sure she'll have something to say about that when we talk to her again, but we got it, man. Thank you very much. Appreciate it, Eric. Thanks. Bye.

[Jen]

Bye.

[Wendy]

She is sabotaging herself. You know, Like, I just wonder where that came from. There had to be something going on. Things were going on. Trip, that's her.

[Melissa]

And she certainly wasn't enjoying that part of their relationship because if that's going great, you just don't give that part

[Wendy]

up unless she's just. Yeah. The first thought I have is that things are going well. So she messed it up, you know?

[Melissa]

Is this Kristen?

[Caller]

Christine?

[Melissa]

Hey, Christine. Good morning.

[Caller]

Hey. First of all, I just want to say I've been listening to you guys for over a year, and I absolutely love your show, but I am so, so upset and disappointed by your reaction to this whole thing.

[Melissa]

Why is that?

[Caller]

Okay, okay. First of all, you guys think that it's ridiculous that she, you know, wants to be a born again virgin and that it's a lie and that it's stupid and that she shouldn't feel guilty, you know, if she has decided to turn her life over to living, you know, in a Christian way that she feels like God wants her to do, you know, that's something very personal for anyone to experience. And, you know, even if you don't particularly understand it, that religious side of it, that can be a very, very important and personal Part of someone's life,

[Jen]

but we don't know if it's religious. He may have just sucked in bed.

[Melissa]

Well, and let me say this also because I don't want you to twist my words around. I don't have any problem at all with the fact that for whatever reason, a woman wants to give up that part of a relationship. That part really doesn't bother me. The more superficial part of that that really annoys me is calling it what people call it. There is no such thing as a born again Virginia. It's done, it happened, it's over.

[Wendy]

All of a sudden, say that you're going to now practice abstinence, but you're

[Melissa]

not a born again virgin.

[Wendy]

Reclaim that part.

[Caller]

So it's to do with the physical aspect. Obviously. Physically, you can never be a virgin again.

[Melissa]

Everyone knows that.

[Caller]

But on the religious, spiritual side of it, that is what it's called in the Christian faith. Because you are becoming a new person spiritually. That's why they call it born again. They don't mean literally physically, you're going

[Jen]

to be a virgin, that's fine, but

[Caller]

God is wiping away your sexual sins from the past night. Don't agree with that.

[Wendy]

That's what I. I'm the one that said it was silly and had a problem with it.

[Melissa]

This is where Melissa and you will disagree.

[Wendy]

Yeah, I mean, and we just have to agree to disagree. But I find it disturbing that a woman in her own mind feels so guilty about and shameful about her past that she feels the need to. To do this for herself. And that's why I said earlier that I would be interested to hear a guy say that I'm a born again virgin because it seems like I only hear women say this. And I'm just always concerned about a woman being ashamed of her sexuality.

[Caller]

Okay, well, like I said, it is a religious and spiritual thing. And if it's not something that you personally believe in, then you're not going to understand it. And that's not my problem. I don't expect for you guys to feel the same everyone else. But what bothers me is how you criticize it. I mean, as soon as he said, hey, she decided she wanted to be a born again virgin, all of you guys started moaning. Oh, gosh. Well, that just ruins the whole thing. And maybe it does ruin it for him, because if he doesn't feel the same way about, you know, that religious side of it or whatever, then I can understand why maybe that was a problem for him. But just the fact that you guys Acted like, oh, yeah, that is a huge problem. I can't believe she did that.

[Jen]

But if it is a huge problem for each one of us, why wouldn't we be allowed to say that? Just like you're calling up saying it's not a big problem for you, but being all defensive, like, wouldn't it be better just to call up and say, hey, you know what? I understand where she's coming from. Like, you're mad at us for feeling like that's not the proper choice for us and expecting us to completely understand your side of things.

[Caller]

No, but you guys have to realize that you have listeners from all different backgrounds and things. You know, it's one thing.

[Jen]

Yeah. So call up.

[Caller]

And I don't agree with that. I don't think, you know, I would never do that with my life. But to actually sit there and act like, you know, she's this crazy weird person for doing that.

[Melissa]

Hey, Christine, I don't want to be. I don't want to be rude to you. I don't want to be rude to you, but I think we're just saying the same things over and over and over again. So I'm going to move on to another caller, but we get you and we hear you.

[Caller]

Thank you.

[Melissa]

Okay, bye. Bye.

[Jen]

I hate you guys.

[Caller]

Oh, yeah, she's not happy.

[Jen]

Yeah.

[Wendy]

Do you think she was a born again virgin? I don't think so.

[Jen]

If she was, she needs to have sex.

[Melissa]

I think she's a born again. Steven, Vicky, listener at this point. She'd be listening to us tomorrow.

[Jen]

She need. She needs you just to get. Go out and just ask God to forgive her for one night and get real freaky.

[Melissa]

Hey, Mike, good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller]

Hey, how are you guys?

[Melissa]

What's going on, Nate?

[Caller]

First off, that lady before me would not shut up.

[Jen]

It was kind of amusing.

[Melissa]

Okay, let's move on past that.

[Jen]

I didn't notice.

[Caller]

I'm agnostic, so I'm gonna give you guys a non religious point of view from here.

[Wendy]

Okay.

[Caller]

I think the, it's like the mindset

[Jen]

born again virgin thing is kind of okay, but you can never have, you know, down.

[Caller]

Your body will never become a virgin again.

[Melissa]

Right.

[Caller]

But the girl. I'm going on the girl subject here. I'm going to talk about the girl. I think she tries to seem appealing to the guys at first, but once she thinks she's in the relationship far

[Jen]

enough where either they're tied down or

[Caller]

she settled down enough with the relationship and content, I think she kind of shows her who she really is in a way. But like, with the born again virgin thing, I think she was just. She didn't want to be like that person anymore, so she wanted to change who she was. And it seems different with every guy.

[Melissa]

So she seems to be, like, kind of doing something.

[Wendy]

The guys at first, maybe, right?

[Melissa]

And then becoming just the opposite of what they want. Maybe purposely breaking. I mean, breaking up with them without breaking up with them, because the two guys before her, big part of their life is going out and drinking, right? All right. They're getting their drink on. So she says, that's not part of my life anymore. So they bail. This guy's having a great time on vacation. Let's assume they're getting intimate. They're having a great time over and over and over again. As soon as the vacation's over, she's like, I'm pulling that part of the relationship out of it.

[Wendy]

It's fascinating that Amanda is attracted to men of such seemingly opposite characteristics as she has. You know, I mean, so that's why I keep saying that it's almost as if she's setting herself up for failure because she's not seeking out guys that she really has a lot in common with, or it's a control issue that when she does and she's settled into it, then all of a sudden she's putting in these strict parameters for them. Well, I also think maybe she's attracted to these guys because they're more exciting than she is, and so she feels like, oh, you know, I'll do what they like to do, and I'll sort of, you know, change who I am to be with them. But then after time, she comes back to herself, which may be somebody that doesn't want to be intimate or doesn't want to go out and party, which is fine. It's just hard. Why? Trying to figure out why Amanda's not attracted to men that are like, you know, like that.

[Melissa]

Hey, Stephanie, good morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller]

Hey, good morning, guys. I love your show.

[Melissa]

Thank you.

[Caller]

Well, I just think that, I mean, maybe she just doesn't really doesn't want to be in a relationship because she keeps figuring out a way to torpedo these relationships.

[Wendy]

Right.

[Caller]

I mean, with this last caller, it seemed like everything was just going along so well. They had this fabulous vacation. He said they were totally in sync. And when she got. When they got back home, she hits him with I want to be a born again version. I mean, nothing's going to make a guy run faster in the other direction than to say something like that.

[Melissa]

And she's hitting them right at the things that are most important to them at the time. The drinking with the guys that were 21 was huge for them, and she pulls that away.

[Jen]

She's almost like a torturous control freak. Exactly what the guy wants. She rocks, grabs it from it. Hey, the Bird Show.

[Bert]

Okay, can we talk about how confusing weight loss has become? Like, one minute it's carbs are bad and then the next it's no, actually, carbs are fine, but only if you walk 10,000 steps and drink a green juice. And honestly, it's just a lot. And then even if you do lose the weight, keeping it off is a whole different story. If you're struggling and want something that fits your real life, hers can help. It's designed to support you in reaching your goals in a way that actually fits your life. That's why weight loss by hers is is getting so much attention right now. Hers connects you with licensed medical providers who create doctor developed treatment plans tailored to you. They offer access to an affordable range of FDA approved GLP1 medications, including the Wegovy pill and the Wegovi pen. It helps regulate your appetite so you eat less and keep the weight off. If you're ready to reach your goals and want to try something new, visit for hers.com Bert to get personalized affordable care that gets you that's F O-R-H-E R S.com Borhers.com Bird weight loss by hers is not available in all 50 states, but go via the registered trademark of Novo Nordisk A s Get started and learn more, including important safety information with Gobi clinical study information and restrictions. Visit borhears.com

[Jen]

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[Bert]

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[Jen]

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[Melissa]

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[Melissa]

Here's the reality of Thanksgiving at this point, right? Is that maybe you're in a home where Thanksgiving, that big meal every single year, right? Everybody comes on over to your house, and you love cooking, you love doing it. But the truth of the matter is, it's expensive. You got 10 people coming over, you've got 12 people coming over, you've got 15 people coming over. While you love sort of the hectic nature of the whole thing, you just love feeding the family, right? The reality of it this year is that it was expensive two years ago, and now it feels way worse now because of the recession.

[Wendy]

And you don't want to invite less family members over or less friends who maybe don't have family in town. You want everybody to be able to come over, but you got to be able to feed them all, you know?

[Melissa]

And here's where the problem starts here. It's just that you want all these people over. You just don't want to have to call them up and say, hey, I know we've done this at my house for the last 10 years. I just can't do it this year. So we have Chef G from the Four Seasons and Chef Hopkins from Restaurant Eugene in this morning. These are two of Atlanta's finest, finest chefs.

[Wendy]

Absolutely. Hey, guys.

[Melissa]

Hey, guys. What's going on, you guys, welcome back.

[Jen]

Good morning.

[Melissa]

Thanks for coming in again. It's almost unbelievable because both of these guys claim that you guys can serve Thanksgiving dinner for 12 for under $50. And they're not talking about their restaurants. They're talking about these are recipes that you guys can do at your house, and you can serve for 12 people for under 50 bucks. So where do we even start?

[Jen]

Well, the focus that we were looking at was just trying to incorporate the traditional accompaniments. It doesn't have to be necessarily the big old bird on the table, but there are the components. The pumpkin, the sweet potato, the turkey, the cranberry and that's really what we did when we looked at it. And I think there's a lot of ways that you can do that. I was kind of surprised, and it was kind of fun to go to a grocery store and do this exercise, because in the industry, we typically get our purveyors to do that, and we get some lower pricing that you typically get at a grocery store. But these are grocery store prices, and we tried to make it fun at the same time.

[Melissa]

How can people try to trim the fat if it was going to cost them $120? Last year good chef line, I said, quote, unquote. I knew it was a cheesy pun. What can they do this year to save some money yet not lose quality on the food?

[Jen]

I think focus on few simple ingredients that are high quality as opposed to trying to build a buffet or a table with 12 different items. This exercise was building three items, have them in harmony with each other, and look at those economical things. Luckily, Thanksgiving is traditionally an economical meal. It's things in season. Pumpkin's not expensive. Turkey is really not that expensive per pound. That's really the focus. And just try to prepare it very simply and really not overwhelm yourself. A lot of people get scared.

[Wendy]

Chef Hopkins, what was your menu? Which one did you make?

[Jen]

We have a roulade of a turkey thigh, which we boned out and rolled with a cornbread stuffing. And we just cook that nice and slow. And I think the thigh is the juiciest part and one that you tend not to overcook. And most people buy just the breast all year, so the thighs are very cheap, you know, under $1.50 a pound. Then we have a salad with radish and bacon, a little homemade sour cream, and a citrus vinaigrette, and then a butternut squash soup. And the whole meal that I brought was under $40.

[Melissa]

And it can serve how many?

[Jen]

12 people.

[Wendy]

12 people.

[Jen]

So you've got the turkey, the stuffing, the salad, and the soup. Right. And you could add, you know, potatoes and green bean casserole and still hit your budget. That is awesome.

[Melissa]

Now we will have delicious.

[Wendy]

It tastes awesome.

[Melissa]

We'll have these recipes on how to make them and everything up online. Also, you have all of them already have them, so they'll be up online at q100atlanta.com so that's 12 people for 40 bucks right there. When's the last time you just made yourself a grilled cheese sandwich?

[Jen]

Oh, I have two kids. So grilled cheese and little egg sandwiches in the morning before school.

[Melissa]

Okay.

[Jen]

All the time.

[Melissa]

He just makes everything sound so five star.

[Wendy]

But I guarantee that his. Even his peanut butter and jelly sandwiches will taste 10 times better than anything I could try.

[Jen]

But I could tell you peanut butter with this. Like, how cool. What is this again? The roula Hoo. It's a hula hoop of turkey. Yeah. It's a roulade with cornbread stuffing. Just very simple. So, like, how cool is it if you have your in laws over, you know, and you're like a new wife or something? You're like, oh, yes, I've made a roulade of turkey with cornbread stuffing. Like. And they're like, whoa. They have no idea that it costs. Came down to 40 bucks.

[Melissa]

Now, is this something? Is this a meal for both of you guys? Are both of these meals suitable for somebody that's trying this for the very first time, or is this a little bit more advanced?

[Jen]

The meal that I made was a turkey meatloaf. I think many people are familiar with meatloaf. And the key is to get both breast meat and dark meat ground and mix that together. And we put mushrooms in there for the moisture, lots of mushrooms. So that you get that juiciness when comes to it when it bakes. And we did a pumpkin that was roasted whole and we stuffed it with sweet potatoes and stuffing. So you're going to get a lot of holiday flavor out of that and a lot of filling in your stomach. And the pumpkin soup, too is topped with a little bit of crouton, a little crispy bread tossed with maple syrup. And it's really easy to make. And these things, when we looked at it, looked in the pantry, what you would typically have in the house, anyways. And then we made a little pumpkin moon pie, which is very simple but really tasty. I think I really love those little moon pies.

[Melissa]

And how much does this whole plate cost?

[Jen]

This one is for the 12 people. I spent $49.97. You just won the champion showdown. I was gonna make a gravy, but I ended up using the pan juices that the meatloaf was producing. But we're right on that budget sipling. Yes.

[Wendy]

And it is awesome.

[Melissa]

I mean, come on.

[Wendy]

Yeah. I do find it fascinating that both talking about dark meat, because I do think you're right when you think about Thanksgiving, most people probably go for the turkey breast and the fact that you both incorporated dark meat in your meals, which is cheaper and juicier. And juicier.

[Jen]

Sometimes I think much more flavorful. Oh, it's better.

[Melissa]

This is just off the charts. It's so good.

[Wendy]

It tastes amazing.

[Bert]

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[Wendy]

My face.

[Jen]

We made the definite right call canceling the meeting today.

[Melissa]

No kidding. We're gonna be out like a light by 10 o' clock today.

[Jen]

And there's a lot of extra out there.

[Melissa]

Is there?

[Wendy]

Nice.

[Melissa]

Okay.

[Wendy]

All of Q100 just cheered like

[Melissa]

Chef G from the Four Seasons and Chef Hopkins from restaurant Eugene outside of this. And again, all of these recipes and how to make them and everything will be up online at q100atlanta.com so you can feed people 12 people for under 50 bucks. Wendy is cooking for the very first time for her entire family. Thanksgiving dinner. What sort of advice can you give to first time chefs on that day?

[Jen]

Do you want to go first, Linton? I'll follow the biggest thing again, keep it simple. Brine your turkey. I don't know if anyone here knows about brining at all, but if you want that breast meat to be flavorful, 1 cup of salt to 3 quarts of water, mix that up and just soak your turkey in it overnight. And then before you roast it, just dry it off. And that'll help the moisture inside. And actually the seasoning gets inside the meat and you have a tendency not to overcook it.

[Wendy]

And how long do you have to thaw the turkey? Because that is one of the biggest rookie mistakes is if you leave it in the freezer too long. Right.

[Jen]

Get it three days ahead.

[Wendy]

Three days.

[Jen]

Put it in your fridge and let it defrost in the fridge. Don't just put it on the back porch or in the sink, because that's when you're going to get that. Just put an illness, put it in the sun. Sometimes I put it in my warm car.

[Wendy]

No, just leave it in there for three days.

[Jen]

If you don't want to cook, though, you can come by and we do turkey to go at the hotel. So it's. If you don't want to cook at the Four Seasons.

[Melissa]

Yeah, great.

[Wendy]

I might just do that and just say, I made it.

[Melissa]

I would totally do that.

[Jen]

Don't watch it.

[Wendy]

I don't have to worry about the stress. I can just go.

[Jen]

Why don't you get outside and grab one of these wooly things?

[Melissa]

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. If they are well fed that day and they're happy and they leave, they.

[Caller]

They don't.

[Melissa]

The story doesn't matter.

[Wendy]

I'm just gonna go put a couple of plates of what I have in the freezer and then just open them

[Caller]

up, put them in the microwave.

[Melissa]

Totally. Okay.

[Jen]

You just gotta make sure that you take like any park 75 wrapping or receipts and throw it away in your neighbor's garbage because that's the last thing you want is them opening a garbage can.

[Wendy]

Be like, what is this restaurant, Eugene?

[Melissa]

Chef Hoppins. What do you have going on at the restaurant for. For Thanksgiving?

[Jen]

Well, we're closed for our staff at Eugene and Holman Finch, which is good. But I just wanted to shout out that I'm all on board on this hotline thing.

[Melissa]

Are you good?

[Jen]

I'm a native Atlantan, so I don't care if you're from California or Rhode Island. It's a bad thing.

[Melissa]

Okay. So you know that you have a responsibility now. When somebody comes, this is an ethical duty. Okay. Thank you. All the recipes up online Q100 Atlanta do and the Four Seasons wants you to know. Look, if you don't want to do the cooking yourself, just stop by there. They'll make the turkey for you. You get credit. That's awesome. Thanks for coming in, guys. Appreciate it.

[Jen]

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