Full Show PT 2: Friday, July 10 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show – Full Show PT 2: Friday, July 10 [Vault]

Date: July 10, 2026
Cast: Melissa Carter, Katie Jo, Janet Jackson (guest), Bianca (intern), and callers

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Overview

This episode of The Bert Show moves from playful and candid advice about flirting to intimate, honest discussions about fertility, family, and supernatural experiences. The show also features a warm, revealing interview with Janet Jackson, covering her career, family dynamics, and personal philosophies. Listeners and the cast share authentic perspectives, blending laughter, vulnerability, and creative energy throughout the episode.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Flirting and Confidence: The “Commando” Secret

[01:31–09:43]

• Topic Introduction: Melissa Carter and co-hosts introduce advice from the Rachael Ray show: to boost flirtation and confidence, women should try going commando (panty-free) when out.
  • “There seems to be, like, a gift that some women have... she’s so engaging that it really makes you sort of feel good about yourself.” — Melissa Carter [02:09]
• The Secret Weapon: The group discusses that this small, private act can create a shift in energy and offer a sexier, more confident presence.
  • “Apparently, if you do this one thing before you go out, it’s going to give you the confidence and this energy that exudes from you.” — Co-host [02:30]
• Playful Anecdotes and Real Talk:
  • Jokes fly about adopting “the commando brand” [04:31].
  • Some express skepticism; others admit to making it part of their routine.
  • A women’s health nurse practitioner calls in, affirming that “letting her breathe” (skipping underwear) is genuinely healthier:
    • “Women should not wear underwear on a regular basis anyway... it needs to breathe. So don’t put any underwear on.” — Caller [06:15]
  • Another caller shares how wearing thigh-highs and a garter belt in formal settings gave her secret confidence:
    • “I gave the most confident training... it was just something that I knew, that if they knew, they’d pay even better attention to me.” — Caller [08:09]
• Group Reflection: The group agrees the secret builds a personal sense of power and shifts focus away from nervousness. They muse on whether secrets like this can change power dynamics in flirting.
• Memorable Quote:
  • “Sometimes I think maybe the secrecy of it gives you a sense of power... if you have a secret going on, then you feel like, well, you know, that you’ve got the power back.” — Katie Jo [08:20]

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2. IVF, Fertility, and Emotional Resilience

[12:23–20:57]

• Melissa Opens Up: She asks Katie Jo about her recent experiences undergoing IVF and freezing embryos in Atlanta.
  • “Let’s see how real we want to get with this whole thing. Because up until this point... you’ve been kind of nervous around kids.” — Melissa Carter [12:51]
• Katie Jo Shares:
  • She explains her background: always the youngest, rarely around kids.
  • Details her IVF journey, emphasizing the drawn-out emotional and financial process—counseling, hormone treatments, and waiting stages.
  • Discusses the emotional toll IVF takes not just on hopeful parents but also on relationships:
    • “There’s just so much heartache that goes along with the celebrations... I’ve witnessed in the past two years... all these sad... honestly, sad couples.” — Katie Jo [13:57]
• Listener Responses:
  • Not all are supportive—some offer “cautious congratulations,” echoing the struggles and letdowns common in infertility.
  • Katie Jo focuses on celebrating small milestones:
    • “I’m proud of these four embryos that if they don’t make it, I don’t care. Like, I’m happy right now with how far we’ve come because it took so much effort.” — Katie Jo [18:25]
  • She talks about planning for children with her partner, Katie, and being open to adoption:
    • “We’re open to adoption. We’re open to all that.” — Katie Jo [19:37]
• Reflective Moment: Discusses desire for legacy and meaning:
  • “In 50 years, in 100 years, in 200 years, nobody’s gonna remember who we were. Even though we strive to have some kind of public image... But your family always tries to find out who you are... That’s my biggest motivation.” — Katie Jo [20:30]

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3. Supernatural Experiences and Premonitions

[23:30–33:38]

• Bianca’s Story: Intern Bianca recounts her family’s tradition and experiences with “smelling death” and other supernatural phenomena when a loved one passed away in Guyana.
  • “It smells like death. I was like, okay, how does death smell? And she's like, it smells like it did at my cousin’s funeral.” — Bianca [23:52]
  • Her family believes in spiritual signs, and her sister’s premonition proved tragically accurate.
• Listeners Call-In:
  • Many share their own stories of prophetic dreams or sensations foretelling death or tragedy.
    • “I had a dream that I saw a person dead... and then he died, like, within two days after my dream.” — Jennifer [27:23]
    • “I knew my brother was going to be shot, and he was shot... but no matter what you say or do, it’s not a gift to me. It’s not a gift.” — Wendy [31:01]
• Ethics and Emotional Weight:
  • The team discusses whether people with such experiences are “blessed” or “burdened,” and whether it’s their responsibility to warn others.
  • “What’s the purpose in the visions, you know?” — Katie Jo [33:25]
  • “That’s why I don’t want the vision.” — Caller [33:27]
• Cultural Roots & Sensitivity:
  • The cast explores the idea that cultural beliefs may heighten sensitivity to these phenomena, especially in families from the Caribbean or West Indies.
    • “Is it a case that there’s a lot of activity that goes on in that area of the world? Because so many people from Guyana, from the West Indies... not only have sensitivity to it, but they really read the signs.” — Katie Jo [29:08]

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4. Janet Jackson: In Her Own Words

[35:55–41:53]

• Interview Focus: A casual yet insightful conversation with Janet Jackson covers personal projects, privacy, and her approach to family and fame.
• Work & Rest:
  • “I’m always on the move, always doing something. So the minute I have a few days to just take a breather, I seize the moment.” — Janet Jackson [36:27]
• Rumors & Reunion Tours:
  • Dispels rumors about a Jackson family reunion tour:
    • “No one’s asked me about being involved with a reunion tour so that I know nothing of...” — Janet Jackson [37:17]
  • She would consider it, but implies fans would rather see “them” (the brothers):
    • “I think people want to see them and not necessarily their little sister tagging along with them.” — Janet Jackson [38:04]
• Acting & Advice:
  • Talks about her new film Why Did I Get Married Too? and the overlap between her character (a psychologist) and her real-life role as confidante to friends:
    • “Some of my friends call me their therapist... and I’m sitting here thinking, okay, I’ve been married twice and divorced twice. Why do you want me to be your therapist?” — Janet Jackson [39:16]
• Philosophy of Love and Family:
  • On marriage and fate:
    • “If it’s God’s plan for me... then it’s gonna happen. And that’s the way I see having a family. If it's in my cards, it’s gonna happen.” — Janet Jackson [40:05]
• Relationship with Jermaine Dupri:
  • Warmly details their continued close friendship:
    • “We never stop loving one another. I adore, adore, adore him... I will hope that he will always allow me to be in his life.” — Janet Jackson [41:08]
• Affirmation from The Bert Show:
  • “You may not know this. You’re Janet Jackson.” — Melissa Carter [41:42]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the commando secret:

  • "If you go commando, it puts you in a completely different state of mind. You exude a different kind of energy and a different kind of confidence when you’re in the presence of men." — Co-host [04:01]

• On fertility challenges:

  • "There’s so much heartache that goes along with the celebrations... so much effort and I’m still going through the..." — Katie Jo [18:25]

• On supernatural senses:

  • "It is a burden because there’s nothing you can seem to do about it, no matter what you say or do. It’s not a gift to me. It’s not a gift." — Wendy (Caller) [31:01]

• Janet Jackson on love and fate:

  • "If it’s God’s plan for me... then it’s gonna happen. And that’s the way I see having a family." — Janet Jackson [40:05]
  • "We never stop loving one another. I adore, adore, adore him..." — Janet Jackson about Jermaine Dupri [41:08]

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Timestamps – Important Segments

• Flirting/Commando Advice: 01:31–09:43
• IVF & Fertility Struggles: 12:23–20:57
• Supernatural Experiences (Bianca & Listeners): 23:30–33:38
• Janet Jackson Interview: 35:55–41:53

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Summary Takeaways

Listeners are invited into the authentic, wide-ranging world of The Bert Show: one part playful advice for living with confidence, another part real conversation on personal challenges, intimate relationships, and the mysteries of life and family. The tone is candid, warm, irreverent, and supportive—with the episode’s heart found in the lived experiences, vulnerability, and humor of both the cast and its audience. Janet Jackson’s interview caps the show with grace, wisdom, and humility, reminding everyone to let life unfold as it will—and to recognize the power of simply being authentic.

Transcript

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[Melissa Carter]

The Bert show all right, so Jen Hobby's got advice that can change you as a flirt today. Right now.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Absolutely. You know how there's women who are just naturally good at flirting? They know how to talk to men and it just seems that for whatever reason, all the guys flock to them.

[Melissa Carter]

There's a confidence.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah. If you're in a sports bar or you're out at EastEnders over the weekend or you're wherever. There's just some women that attract a lot of men and just have this sort of energy about them and there's other women that struggle with it and they kind of clam up around guys. They get kind of nervous or they turn into their girlfriends and they giggle and so. And they're the ones that don't, like, quite have the. Have the mojo with the guys.

[Melissa Carter]

There seems to be, like, a gift that some women have that without being too overt about it, sort of as a guy, makes you feel like you really have a shot here without it really even being anything about, like, a sexual conversation. But she's so engaging that it really makes you sort of feel good about yourself.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, I think that there's something about the confidence and, you know, being able to engage a guy in conversation or while you're having a conversation, you know, some sort of, like, friendly touch of the arm or something like that or, you know, whatever it is. Some women are better than others at it. But this is going to level the playing field because apparently, if you do this one thing before you go out, it's going to give you the confidence and sort of this energy that exudes from you that nobody has to know about, that you've done this before you go out, and every single person can do it. This is from the Rachael Ray show. This is a dating advisor who gives you this piece of advice. You ready for this, ladies? Everybody can do it.

[Flirting Advice Host]

We're gonna retire to the ladies room for a minute for the ultimate solution to keep yourself happy and hot. It'll be our little secret. I'm scared. Yeah. Something happens when you go commando, when you're flirting, you know, panty free.

[Janet Jackson]

Hu.

[Melissa Carter]

I have.

[Katie Jo]

Oh, my God.

[Flirting Advice Host]

You know the secret?

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah.

[Flirting Advice Host]

It's ancient. It's been passed down generation to generation, sister to sister.

[Caller/Guest]

I did whisper to mama Gina, I can't believe I'm gonna say this in public.

[Flirting Advice Host]

I've never gone commando in my life. Not ever?

[Caller/Guest]

No, that's not.

[Katie Jo]

I was shocked.

[Caller/Guest]

You said I was a little girl. Maybe when I was three. That's the last time that switch went on.

[Commentator]

Stop yelling.

[Flirting Advice Host]

Well, it's just. See, it's your little secret. Our little secret. Nobody knows. But it gives you, like, just, like a very fun feeling.

[Caller/Guest]

I don't know. I might try it on date night

[Katie Jo]

just to say, I did it. I was in it to win it.

[Co-host/Commentator]

So this can go for any women, Whether you're single, whether you're married, whether you're in a serious relationship. Apparently, if you go commando, it puts you in a completely different state of mind. You exude a different kind of energy and a different kind of confidence when you're in the presence of men. But they don't even have to know that you did it.

[Melissa Carter]

Is there anybody in here that would like to comment on that? Anybody?

[Katie Jo]

She Said in the presence of men

[Melissa Carter]

or if you're attracted to women.

[Janet Jackson]

Yeah.

[Melissa Carter]

I mean, I think someone in here goes commando every day.

[Katie Jo]

I said this.

[Co-host/Commentator]

How many years ago can Wendy and I both say, not it right now?

[Melissa Carter]

I mean, you sort of have a brand at this point. Yeah.

[Katie Jo]

Have a brand. Have the commando brand. That's the ad I should do. Yeah. Well, I think that if you're not used to doing it especially, and then you do it. There is a difference. Yeah, there's a definite. Definitely difference. And it's always. Because what I think it does is it takes the nervousness away. There's a distraction. Like. Yeah, it's just. Yeah. Because I think a lot of times if you're so in your own head, like you said, with women who are nervous around guys, and then they tap into that nervousness and they get obsessed about being nervous, and then it just gets worse and worse, and that's when they just kind of lose it. Where I think that if you have something like this that you know is going on and you kind of feel different because you haven't done it before, and then that's enough of a distraction that's not gonna let your head go into that nervous insecure. Oh, my God, I can't. Is he judging me right now?

[Commentator]

Place.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You know, and I think, too, you're kind of, like, secretly being bad. Like, there's kind of, like, something secretly exciting about that, but nobody else has to know about it. But you've got this sort of, I

[Katie Jo]

don't know, different thing going on.

[Commentator]

That's how I felt when I was wearing my Spanx.

[Katie Jo]

Save that. Some bad jokes.

[Commentator]

I was secretly being bad.

[Melissa Carter]

Here's Michelle. Good morning, Michelle. You're on Q100. Hi.

[Caller/Guest]

Hi, guys. How are you doing?

[Melissa Carter]

Good. Okay. The advice that Rachel Ray gave the other day is, like, if you want to be sexy, like in conversations when you're talking to dudes and you want to, like, automatically make yourself a little bit more flirty without thinking about it too much, just. Just go commando.

[Caller/Guest]

I'm a women's health nurse practitioner. I have. We are taught in school that women should not wear underwear on a regular basis anyway.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Really?

[Caller/Guest]

Yes. That is the only part of your body that stays covered all the time, 24 7. And it needs to breathe. So don't put any underwear on.

[Katie Jo]

Amen, sister.

[Caller/Guest]

And it is such a routine for me. When I do put on underwear, my husband's like, where you going with those underwear on? What you doing? Because it is an everyday thing. I am commando as we speak, ladies,

[Katie Jo]

That's gonna be the tagline for my ads. If I do these ads, like, let her breathe.

[Melissa Carter]

But if you do this every day, though, like you said, I think that it takes away from the sexiness because then you're used to doing it.

[Katie Jo]

I think you have to switch it up.

[Melissa Carter]

You do it from time to time. If your intention is just to get your flirt and get your sexy.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Commentator]

If you're going out this weekend and you know you're gonna be wearing, like, your cute designer jeans and your cute shoes and your, you know, your cute top out, just go commando in those jeans and, like, see if it makes you a little bit, like, flirtier privately. And you don't have to tell everyone. And certainly after a couple of drinks,

[Katie Jo]

don't start telling everyone.

[Janet Jackson]

I mean, that's a.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Keep it to yourself.

[Katie Jo]

I guarantee, though, that if you walk up to a guy drunk and say, I'm going commando, he's going to talk to you.

[Co-host/Commentator]

But you don't want that. No, you don't want commando. This is for you to keep to yourself. This is your own little secret.

[Melissa Carter]

Here's Marie. Good morning. You're part of the Burt Show. Hi.

[Caller/Guest]

I just wanted to let you know that years ago, I used to work for a company. It was a nationwide company, and I did the training. And the men that I was training, when I would go to these different cities or the people I was training was always meant. And one, on one trip, I didn't have. I. Before I left, I didn't have any pantyhose, and all I had were thigh highs. So I just grabbed the thigh highs and the garter belt and I took it. And I found that when I wore the thigh highs and garter belt under my business suit, I gave the most confident training.

[Melissa Carter]

Really.

[Co-host/Commentator]

So it does work, I'm telling you.

[Caller/Guest]

And I started doing it every time I left to leave for training, because it was just something like, I knew that they didn't know and something that I knew that if they knew, they'd pay even better attention to me.

[Katie Jo]

Sometimes I think maybe the secrecy of it gives you a sense of power, because I think that it comes. There's always a power struggle when it comes to flirting or relationships or whatever. And maybe when you get intimidated because you feel the guy has power over you somehow, and if you have a secret going on, then you feel like, well, you know, that you've got the power back.

[Melissa Carter]

Didn't we do this once before where some women called up and said that if they knew that they were going to be in a situation, the following day, they're going to be on a first date. It made them feel sexier on the date if they slept naked the night before.

[Katie Jo]

Yeah, we've talked to women.

[Melissa Carter]

Did women call up and say that also? So here's the advice from the Rachael Ray show about flirting. You want to get your flirt on right here. Then this is the way to do it. This weekend we're going to retire to

[Flirting Advice Host]

the ladies room for a minute for the ultimate solution to keep yourself happy and hot. It'll be our little secret. I'm scared hot. Something happens when you go commando when you're flirting, you know, Panty free.

[Janet Jackson]

Huh?

[Flirting Advice Host]

I have.

[Katie Jo]

Oh, my God.

[Flirting Advice Host]

You know the secret.

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah.

[Flirting Advice Host]

It's ancient. It's been passed down generation to generation, sister to sister. I did whisper to mom with Gina.

[Caller/Guest]

I can't believe I'm gonna say this in public.

[Flirting Advice Host]

I've never gone commando in my life.

[Caller/Guest]

Not ever. No, that's not.

[Melissa Carter]

I was shocked.

[Caller/Guest]

I said I was a little girl. Maybe when I was three. That's the last time that switch went on.

[Melissa Carter]

So that's your advice going into the weekend right there. You want to feel sexy, you know, go commando.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Go commando.

[Commentator]

Mentally and visually, I'm so happy that I'm hearing that on the Rachael Ray show and not on Paula Deen.

[Melissa Carter]

Hey, the bird show.

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[Melissa Carter]

I'm Melissa Carter. I want to get real with you for a second, okay. And I don't want you to think that I have been judging because I have not.

[Katie Jo]

Okay.

[Melissa Carter]

But I, I, and I may have made an observation that I'm just way off base on.

[Commentator]

Okay.

[Melissa Carter]

Okay. And it has you becoming a mom and the whole egg thing that you've been doing lately and all that.

[Katie Jo]

My embryos are frozen in a freezer here in Atlanta. I had gone through IVF treatments where I went through IVF for like half of the process and at the process where they take the eggs out and fertilize them, then I had them placed into a freezer rather than back into my womb.

[Melissa Carter]

All right, let's see how real we want to get with this whole thing. Because up until this point, for as long as I've known you now for nine Years. You've been kind of nervous around kids. Yeah, like, you know, a little. Not, I don't want to say hands off, but just haven't really, I don't know, embraced the idea of children.

[Katie Jo]

Well, I had talked on the air. I'm the youngest. I never was around kids growing up, so I was awkward. I was youngest by far, so I don't have nieces and nephews. My, you know, a lot of my closest friends don't have kids. I mean, you know, one of my closest friends in Knoxville has children, and I'm not around children often at all. So I do. I don't. I don't have this. I'm not the one that runs up to him and picks them up and hugs them and kisses them, you know. But, you know, I don't necessarily think that that would make me a bad mom just because I don't deal with strangers kids. But I. I've seen you with my

[Melissa Carter]

kids and you've been great.

[Katie Jo]

Yeah, I just. Yeah, I just. It's a matter of the way I grew up. I just was never around children, you know.

[Melissa Carter]

So now you're going through this whole process and I hear you talking about it, and I hear you talking about it with Katie Jo and stuff, but I'm wondering if you're more excited about this whole process for Katie Jo than you are for yourself.

[Katie Jo]

No, that's not necessarily.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Good question, though.

[Katie Jo]

That's not necessarily the case. I think that the reason I'm a little more reserved about it, because with ivf, you have to celebrate the stages, you know, because if you talk. Because this introduced me to a whole new world of couples who have fertility issues. And I just have witnessed in the past two years, because this conversation started two years ago, and my conversation with the clinic started two years ago, and us going through, not only you have to go through counseling, you have to go through financial counseling. Like, there's a whole stages of things you have to do just before you ever get to the process of starting to take the hormones and get. So it took two years for me to get these eggs in the freezer. And in those two years, just the environment I've been a part of, there's so much heartache that goes along with the celebrations. We've had friends that we've discovered since then that have gone through IVF that we did not realize was going through unsuccessful IVF treatments. And, you know, basically what it is is a huge amount of expense, a huge amount of self reflection, because for a lot of straight couples, for Katie and I, we did not go into it with fertility issues. We went into it with biological. Like we gotta figure out an alternative way to have children because we can't do it the way straight people can do it. But for a lot of straight couples that go into it, there is this sense of insecurity because they dreamed of having children. And then one of them finds out that they have an inability or something is going on where they have a struggle having children. And so I think for me, the focus I have right now is on the embryos because the children, we don't plan on having children for a couple years. And I think that it has certainly accelerated the conversations about children because now we actually have living things in a freezer that could be if we wanted them to be. But I think for me, it's just this observation of all these sad. I mean, honestly, sad couples that sit in that waiting room and they're depressed.

[Melissa Carter]

The emotional toll. I've had friends that have gone through this for years. The emotional toll it takes on everybo in the relationship is so intense.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I know couples that haven't made it through that.

[Melissa Carter]

Yeah, really, that have split up through

[Commentator]

that process during the process.

[Co-host/Commentator]

So stressful. And there's so much pressure and stress. I think that they have a harder time with getting pregnant because of the pressure and stress.

[Melissa Carter]

Then there are other couples that I know also that have gone years trying and trying and trying and going by the book, and it becomes so pressure filled that they're just like, you know what? Let's just put this on the shelf for a couple of years. And then they have sex and they get pregnant.

[Katie Jo]

And they get pregnant. Yeah, well, it's a combination because I'm going to answer your question with that. Plus, I'm naturally not a very. It's not that I'm not an emotional person. I just don't show my emotions as much as other people. I don't show them as much as Katie does, you know? You know, one of the things that makes Katie and my relationship so strong is we are so different from each other. And I think there's an. There's an appreciation for each other because it's something new, like it's something we're learning about. And then it. It also shows us about ourselves and one of the things that we know about each other. She's far more expressive than I am. You know, she's. She is. She gets so excited about things and she's. She. The thought of being a mother is so exciting to her. But we've had the conversation where since we started this process. She laughs, thinking, you know what, that we may be misunderstanding each other. So answering your question, she thinks I'm actually going to be this great mom

[Caller/Guest]

because

[Katie Jo]

that I have this outward appearance, that I'm very reserved and have this thick skin. But she says, you know, but you'll get children and you'll be the mothering one and the nurturing one and that she, she'll end up being the disciplinarian, even though on the outside she exerts this fun loving energy. So we've actually had that conversation which surprised me because she said you'll end up being the kid, the go to for the kids for their nurturing, which I never thought about. So I think the combination of both is I'm trying not to be too excited too soon because I'm celebrating the success of the eggs because going on and not to go too long about this, but the IVF thing. Listeners response to my sharing this has also been surprising because so listeners have had this spice of negativity, you know, like their congratulations, but just know that those eggs may not take. Oh, fantastic for you, Melissa.

[Melissa Carter]

But just know because they've had this kind of.

[Katie Jo]

And so there was a part of me at first I was offended, like why in the world would you express something negative when I'm trying to celebrate and just celebrate with me, you know. So I, you know.

[Melissa Carter]

But they're trying to be cautious, but for what reason?

[Katie Jo]

I'm proud of these four embryos that if they don't make it, I don't care. Like I'm happy right now with how far we've come because it took so much effort and I'm still going through the. Because once you take the eggs out, my body's not adjusted yet. I have been jacked up with hormones for six weeks that my body has been. I've been probably had a harder time after the eggs were taken out last week than I did before. So I've been struggling the past week with just changes in my body and trying to adjust to it, you know, so it's a whole process. So I'm enjoying. You know, we put the picture of the embryos on the mantle. We had a picture, one picture of the embryo on the door. Yeah, I mean it's, yeah, it's part of me that I'm not thinking about stage six because I'm still in stage four.

[Melissa Carter]

If you, if you guys never had children, would that bother you?

[Co-host/Commentator]

I.

[Katie Jo]

Yes, I, it would bother me because

[Melissa Carter]

I think could you have said that two years ago.

[Katie Jo]

Yes, I have said that probably since my transplant.

[Melissa Carter]

Okay.

[Katie Jo]

I just never was. I was not with the person, you know, I needed to be with someone who I knew was gonna be the mother of my children. Right.

[Bianca]

Well.

[Co-host/Commentator]

And I think, too, like, even if the IVF doesn't work, like, there's a lot of ways to become parents. You know what I'm saying?

[Katie Jo]

We're open to adoption. We're open to all that.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Absolutely. I mean, it's all expensive, but there's a lot of ways to become moms.

[Katie Jo]

Yes. It's not that expensive.

[Melissa Carter]

You could have Hollis tomorrow.

[Katie Jo]

You're right. But the adoption thing for a gay couple is a little more than first. Right.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Couples have gay couple friends who've adopted, and it's not easy, but it can be done.

[Melissa Carter]

But you are genuinely excited about it.

[Katie Jo]

I'm genuinely excited, yeah. You can't help but think about. And the reason I said that for the transplant is because, you know, we work in an industry of vanity and of attention. I mean, we all, in this room would not be here if we didn't want attention on some level. We all would not be working in this room if we didn't need. We need somebody to tell us that we're great or need somebody to tell us that we're good. You know, it's like we obviously have some lacking of doing it ourselves, but in 50 years, in 100 years, in 200 years, nobody's gonna remember who we were. Even though we strive to have some kind of public image.

[Melissa Carter]

I'm pretty sure we'll still be here.

[Katie Jo]

But I don't feel like I've been

[Commentator]

here that long this morning.

[Katie Jo]

But seriously. But your family always tries to find out who you are. Like you've brought ancestry.com people are always trying to find who they're connected to, family wise. And so that's my biggest motivation, is, yes, if I end my life having not reproduced, I would be regretful. Yes, I can say that.

[Melissa Carter]

Honestly, you gotta worry about that because it's about to happen.

[Katie Jo]

I got four ice cubes and the freezer.

[Melissa Carter]

The Birch show.

[Podcast Host]

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[Melissa Carter]

The Bird Show Intern Bianca here got a freaky story to tell. You know, I know anytime that we bring in like the Atlanta Ghost hun, there's always that freaky factor of, like, there are things amongst us. If you want to believe it or not, they're here. And Bianca sort of raising the level on a talk like that, right?

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[Melissa Carter]

This is you and your sister?

[Bianca]

Yeah, my sister.

[Melissa Carter]

Okay. What happened?

[Bianca]

Well, okay. Back in oh, two, my stepfather died. But the day before he died, my sister, she woke up and she was walking to my. Their room, and she stopped at the door and she said, do you smell that? I said, no, I don't smell nothing. She was like, it smells like death. I was like, okay, how does death smell? And she's like, it smells like it did at my cousin's funeral. And I was like, okay, I don't know what you're talking about, but that's serious. So she went and told my parents, and my mother, she got scared. She's like, don't say that. You know, but my parents, I mean, my family, they're Caribbean, so they. They believe in all of that stuff, so. So she told them. She was like, it's real strong, and it's coming right in front of your room. And my mother was like, oh, Lord. So the whole day, you know, everyone was spooked, whatever. And then by the next day, you know, we brushed it off, but that. Okay. Like around noon the next day, my stepfather, he woke up and he said he has a headache. And we just thought it was a regular headache. So he was walking around, he went downstairs and he laid on the couch, and I was. I went downstairs with him, you know, see what was going on. And he was crying. I never, ever in. Like, I've been with him since I was a baby. I never seen him crying. So I was, okay, this is pretty weird. So he was like, my head is killing me. And I was like, oh. He's like, he could give me some Advil. So I went to get him some Advil, and he said, tell your mother, take me to the hospital. I said, okay. So I told my mother, she rushed, and he died on. On the way in the car. So.

[Katie Jo]

I'm so sorry.

[Melissa Carter]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Bianca]

So emotional.

[Katie Jo]

I'm sorry. Of course it is. No doubt, because I would assume that with your, you know, your sister, Right, the one that. That if you have something where you have a sensitivity to something like that, because she noticed it, two different places. It's one of those things. It goes back to my thought of people who have this ability, usually not the ones selling it on tv because it's probably something they don't want to have. You know what I mean? They don't want to be able to predict things or sense things, you know, So, I mean, I just could see where it would be a burden more so than a blessing. You know what I mean?

[Melissa Carter]

I wonder if there are. If we've got Birch show listeners that have had the same kind of experience where they either smelled death before it happened or had a vision of somebody dying before it happened and they kept it to themselves. Because you're like, this is crazy, right? It's not gonna. I mean, it's crazy. I'm not gonna tell anybody about it. But then the next day, like, your vision comes true. Freaks you right out.

[Katie Jo]

Yeah.

[Melissa Carter]

Because eventually, if you do have that gift, if you want to call it a gift, you have to find out the first time, and that's gotta be the most painful.

[Commentator]

And then you don't believe the first time.

[Melissa Carter]

Yeah.

[Commentator]

So then you gotta wait for it to happen again, and then you're like, oh.

[Melissa Carter]

And every time you have a vision or you smell that, smell that? Your sister said, then you have to tell. Is that the only time she's ever experienced that?

[Bianca]

Well, she said when she was young, she used to see ghosts. And my mother and my grandmother said she was born with this veil over her head. Like, in. In Guyana. Where my family started is, like, when people are born like that, that means they can see ghosts and stuff, so. So I guess it's true. And my mother had some. An experience like that when my cousin died. The morning 2am, one of the birds fell and broke, and it shattered into all these pieces, she said.

[Katie Jo]

And, like a ceramic bird in the house?

[Bianca]

Yeah, like, and it. And it just fell out of nowhere. And the funny thing is, she died an hour later. We got a call, she died, whatever. And we flew to Guyana. And the day after her funeral, a bird came in the room and sat on the. On the bed. It would not move. Would not move.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That is really freaky.

[Melissa Carter]

404-741-Q100. Hey, Jennifer.

[Caller/Guest]

Hey. I was calling in because that same thing happened to me twice when I was in high school. I had a dream that I saw one of. I saw a person dead. And my dad had been taking care of our sick cousin. He died, like, within two days after my dream. And then I had another dream within like the same month. And my aunt was dead, dried up dead in the middle of a dinner party. Everybody else was alive having fun, and she was the only person. She was like a gray color. And she died within like two or three days.

[Melissa Carter]

Wow. Don't they say that, like, Little kids are more sensitive to this kind of thing than adults are. Because you get so jaded as an adult and you don't want to believe because you get so freaked out. You got like a three or four year old around the house who's talking to ghosts and stuff like that. And they don't know any different, right?

[Katie Jo]

And also it seems so authentic, not freaky to them.

[Caller/Guest]

Right? And it's so weird. I was that kid. I always saw weird shadows around the house. And my mom's like, oh, you're just seeing things. It's nothing. It's the lampshade or something. But I always kept having that feeling. And my dad got a dream book. Cause he was like, your dreams keep coming true. This is weirding me out. I need to figure out what's going on.

[Bianca]

Yeah.

[Melissa Carter]

Stacy and I had this thought last week. Cause we were sitting in the way our house is set up. It goes kitchen and then counter and then a little eating area. And then from that eating area, there's a window and you can see into our backyard. And Hayden last week said to us, did you see what. You see that guy just run across the yard? I'm not lying to you guys. And we looked around and there was nothing, you know, and then five minutes later, he said the same thing. He didn't even say it was a person. He said that flash run across the backyard. So we opened up the door to think maybe our neighbor Mike's dog was in the yard and there was nothing there. But we sort of just dismissed it. But who knows?

[Katie Jo]

Who knows?

[Melissa Carter]

You just never know.

[Co-host/Commentator]

It could be Kahuna.

[Melissa Carter]

Could be Kahuna. Please come back, Kahuna. We're having problems with pancakes.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Kahuna's still hanging out with us.

[Melissa Carter]

Please give me some guidance with this new dog.

[Katie Jo]

I'm also fascinated too. One of my good friends, her family's from the West Indies. And is it a case that there is a lot of activity that goes on in that area of the world? Because so many people from, you say Guyana, from the West Indies, from, you know, that not only has sensitivity to it, but this beliefs, you know, that they really read the signs. Is which comes first, the fact that they pay attention to it and so they sense more of it, or is there just more activity there and more people from that area blessed, you know what I'm saying?

[Bianca]

I think both, because my mother, you can call her up, she'll tell you a lot of stories. And all the, like Caribbean people, they have these weird stories. So I think it's more of the beliefs and all the signs come true. Everything they sense. It does happen. So I don't. It's. It's like a. It's not a blessing, but it just happens.

[Janet Jackson]

Yeah.

[Melissa Carter]

Hey, Yana, good morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller/Guest]

Good morning. Not the day that my grandpa died. I was actually. We live in Woodsak, and he's in Ukraine, and we're all from Ukraine. And the day that he died, I was cleaning my house, and I was downstairs, and my sister was upstairs, and I just felt like we didn't know that he died yet. And I just felt like a strong presence then, and I didn't know what it was. I was, like, 11. I had no idea what it was. But my grandpa, every time he would see me, like, when we were still in Ukraine, he would, like, play with my hair a lot. And I just felt like somebody was, like, playing with my hair. And that night we went out to dinner, and when we came back, we got a message that he died.

[Commentator]

Wow.

[Melissa Carter]

I'll freak you out. That'll keep you nice and freaked out for a while there. I could tell she was from the Ukraine before she said it right.

[Katie Jo]

She just didn't, you know, give you a chance to tell her.

[Melissa Carter]

Ukraine City, Good morning.

[Katie Jo]

That's the spring break destination up there.

[Melissa Carter]

Good morning, Wendy. You're on Q100.

[Caller/Guest]

Yes. I have the same experience, too, where I was able to tell my brother I knew he was going to be shot, and he was shot. I've had experiences where I was in Florida, and I envisioned that he would have a bad car accident with another brother, and he did have a bad car accident. I called him and tried to warn him. So it is a burden because there's nothing you can seem to do about it, no matter what you say or do. It's not a gift to me. It's not a gift.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Is it a vision while you're awake, or is it a dream while you're sleeping?

[Caller/Guest]

It's a dream while I'm sleeping.

[Melissa Carter]

So what are you drinking?

[Caller/Guest]

I also have seen ghosts, too, as well, which I thought I was crazy. In a house that we own, I would see this male and female, and I. They would bother me, to actually wake me up and come to find out they were murdered in the house.

[Janet Jackson]

Damn.

[Katie Jo]

Oh, God.

[Melissa Carter]

When you say you have these visions and there's nothing you can do about it, why can't you. Like, if you see someone's gonna get shot, why can't you call them up and say you don't want to be at this place at this time, because you can change that.

[Caller/Guest]

I mean, but the thing is that the details are like, even with the car accident, I knew it was going to have a car accident. I knew they was going to go in a ditch. I don't know exactly what street. I don't know exactly what. So I knew he was going to be shot. I knew he was going to be shot by a bad. A drug dealer, in fact. And. But I didn't know what day. And I told him, I said, you need to stop doing this. And I know I can. I could see it. I knew it. I. I told him it was going to be near a big truck and what have you, but. But nothing happens. He still was shot and murdered.

[Commentator]

And it might be a situation where if she has something, it's like it's gonna happen in the lobby of the Q100 building. And she says, don't ever go to the Q100 building. Then the circumstances change. Because if it's. If she's having the dream, it might just be meant to be. So then he won't go into the Q100 building, but he might end up getting run over two blocks away.

[Melissa Carter]

So at that point, you just got to keep the information to yourself then. Right. Because if it's inevitable, it doesn't do you any good to tell him. Because then it's like playing life roulette.

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah. And just recently, I dreamt that my mother died during surgery. And she's scheduled to have surgery. So she doesn't want to have the surgery. And normally I've been saying, go ahead, have the surgery. You'll feel better. So now I just say, I want you to do what you want to do.

[Melissa Carter]

So when is this.

[Caller/Guest]

I don't want to tell her that. Right.

[Melissa Carter]

When is the surgery scheduled for?

[Caller/Guest]

Well, she has not scheduled it. She's nervous about having it. So now I just say, I want you to do what you want to do. And all along I've been telling her, go ahead, have the surgery, mama. You'll feel better. Wow.

[Melissa Carter]

That's what I'm saying. I don't know if you're. If your responsibility is to tell or if your responsibility is to not say anything.

[Caller/Guest]

Right.

[Katie Jo]

Like, what's the purpose in the visions? You know?

[Caller/Guest]

Exactly. Exactly. That's why I don't want the vision.

[Katie Jo]

Yeah, right. And you said the same thing, like your family, like, when they would. Something always seemed to happen after a sign came.

[Caller/Guest]

Wow.

[Janet Jackson]

Yeah.

[Melissa Carter]

I'd rather have my gift with the telling where the accents is and something like that. I mean this is one that I can share the world and makes everybody happy.

[Commentator]

What if you guess someone's accident? They get it wrong and you get it wrong and they die. What if you found out that that's

[Melissa Carter]

the curse the Bird show okay, can

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[Melissa Carter]

The Bird Show. Janet Jackson.

[Janet Jackson]

Hello.

[Melissa Carter]

How are you, Janet Jackson?

[Janet Jackson]

I'm well, thank you. How are you doing?

[Melissa Carter]

Really good. We love talking to you.

[Caller/Guest]

Well, thank you.

[Janet Jackson]

That's very sweet. I enjoy talking to you, too.

[Melissa Carter]

Been a couple months, but yeah. What's been going on? You got a lot of stuff going on, actually.

[Caller/Guest]

Film, book,

[Janet Jackson]

theme song for the movie, nothing.

[Melissa Carter]

If people really knew what Janet Jackson's life was, would they say, oh, my God, it's so exciting, or, oh, my God, it's so boring?

[Janet Jackson]

I don't think it's. Well, it's not boring for me. It might be boring for them, but I'm always on the move, always doing something. So the minute I have a few days to just take a breather, I seize the moment.

[Melissa Carter]

And when you have those brief times where you just take a breather, what do you do?

[Janet Jackson]

If I can get away, I do. I love the ocean. That's my thing. I love humidity, heat, warm weather. I love the beach. And if I can't, it's about being with my friends, being with my family, playing games. I love reading. I love watching. Going to the movies or watching black and white films, old films.

[Melissa Carter]

You brought up the family and every day it seems like there's a different rumor about what's going on with the tour here. Is there gonna be a Jackson reunion tour? Are you involved with it? Are you not involved with it? Every day there's a different rumor.

[Janet Jackson]

No one's asked me about being involved with a reunion tour so that I know nothing of. I wish I had a different answer, but that's all that I can really say. I haven't discussed. None of my brothers have discussed with me about doing a reunion tour.

[Podcast Host]

Would you be open to doing a tour?

[Janet Jackson]

I'd have to really give it a great deal of thought. I think they should for sure do a reunion tour. For sure.

[Caller/Guest]

Them.

[Janet Jackson]

I think people have been dying to see them for a very, very long time and really miss their energy on stage. And I think it would be great.

[Melissa Carter]

Now, I heard very distinctly they're almost bolded and underlined and italicized them. They should do a reunion tour. Why would you be reluctant to jump on that?

[Janet Jackson]

Because it's not really being that reluctant. I just think people want to see them and not necessarily their little sister tagging along with them. Who knows? But when I think about the Jacksons, I want to see them perform. I don't think about wanting to see me perform with them, but that's me

[Caller/Guest]

As a fan, let's talk about the

[Janet Jackson]

movie why Did I Get Married Too? It's about four couples that have been friends since college, and they go on an annual vacation and they revisit the question, why did I get married? So it brings up a lot of things. There's a. They're shot in the Bahamas, then the Bahamas vacationing, and it's paradise. And then a lot of drama happens while they're in paradise. And it's about forgiveness, about trust, about communication, about healing, about not healing. It's very funny, Very funny at times, and I think it's very dramatic at times.

[Katie Jo]

Now, Janet, I saw the first movie and I thought it was fantastic. And do you find. Because your character is. Is she a psychologist? Is that her profession to. Because I wondered if now, in your private life, if people come to you for relationship advice, because they seem to be doing that in the movie.

[Janet Jackson]

It's always. It was that way before the movie. That's one of the things that I connected with the character Patricia, because some of my friends call me their therapist, actually. And this was before the film. And I'm sitting here thinking, okay, I've been married twice and divorced twice. Why do you want me to be your therapist? I'm still trying to figure this out for myself. But they do. And obviously I get. I guess I'm giving okay, advice, and I. I know I'm a wonderful listener because that I can do. But they keep coming back. So I'm. I'm always helping people with their issues. And I used to like Patricia, not deal with my own. With my own would come about. So that's where I related to her in those two. Those two areas.

[Co-host/Commentator]

After doing these two movies and like you said, getting married and divorced twice, are you open to marriage ever again in your personal life?

[Janet Jackson]

You know, if it's God's plan for me, and that's really not a cop out, then it's gonna happen. And that's the way that I see that. That's the way that I see having a family. If it's in my cards, it's gonna happen.

[Melissa Carter]

And you did a. The lead song for the soundtrack also. You and Jermaine worked on this together, right?

[Janet Jackson]

Yes, we wrote it together. We produced it together. It's called Nothing. And it was really inspired from the characters in the movie. That was the true inspiration for it. And it's available on itunes. And I'm really happy because people have been listening to this song and really, really taken to it. They've really been enjoying it. And really respond to. So I'm glad they're liking it.

[Melissa Carter]

You know, we're here in Atlanta, so we have to ask. I think everybody is sort of like, fascinated with the relationship with you and Jermaine. Cause you guys have both been such adults about it. And I think when people go through the same kind of things you guys have gone through, you usually go separate ways. But you guys have formed this beautiful relationship, and it seems to be seamless.

[Janet Jackson]

We never stop loving one another. I adore, adore, adore him. He is such a good man and such. Has such a wonderful heart. And I'm so thankful that he's allowing me to still be in his life and that we're such good friends. We speak every single day. I just. I adore Jermaine and I will, I will hope that he will always allow me to be in his life.

[Melissa Carter]

Well, good luck with the song and good luck with the movie. And I know from an outsider's perspective, I would love to see you part of that tour. So.

[Bianca]

Yeah.

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah.

[Katie Jo]

You wouldn't be just a little sister. Yeah, right.

[Melissa Carter]

You're not just a little sister. You may not know this. You're Janet Jackson.

[Janet Jackson]

I'm not just little sister tagging along.

[Katie Jo]

No Janet.

[Melissa Carter]

All right, Janet. Thanks a lot for the time.

[Janet Jackson]

Thank you.

[Melissa Carter]

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