Full Show PT 2: Friday, June 26 [Vault]

Summary

Podcast Summary – The Bert Show, Full Show PT 2: Friday, June 26 [Vault]

Episode Overview

This episode of The Bert Show blends signature group banter and genuine listener engagement, as the crew and callers address common, sometimes awkward parts of life. Topics range from the embarrassment of snoring, generational hoarding habits, reality TV dreams, accidental intimate texts, and anxieties over sudden kindness from a difficult boss. The tone is candid, self-deprecating, and playful, with the cast inviting feedback and calls throughout.

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1. The Snoring Conversation

[01:05 – 12:06]

Key Discussion Points:

• Wendy is confronted by the team and listeners about her alleged snoring, which she’s unaware of.
• Snoring as a “deal-breaker” in relationships—true for some women and men alike.
• Listeners (including sleep center workers) call in to share personal snoring stories and solutions.
• The double standard: snoring is less accepted in women, but equally, men get judged for it.
• Remedies discussed: Breathe Right strips, surgery, sleep studies, and the realization some causes are out of one’s control (alcohol, illness, pregnancy, body mass).
• Emotional effects: One caller describes being traumatized after her boyfriend compared her snore to a "bull elephant" ([08:11]).

Notable Quotes and Moments:

• “People who snore have no idea that they do.” — Jeff [02:25]
• “If it comes to be known that I'm a snorer, I will buy snore strips. I will go get a surgery done.” — Wendy [04:49]
• “I have women that snore much louder than men... You would think they pulled the paint off the wall.” — Stephanie, Sleep Center Worker [08:01]
• “You can't help it if you snore.” — Melissa [09:48]
• “Sexy Breathe Right strips — that’s Wendy’s claim to fame.” — Jeff [11:58]

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2. Generational Hoarding & Sentimental Stuff

[12:52 – 19:42]

Key Discussion Points:

• Jeff opens up about his parents’ reluctance to throw away outdated, rarely-used items (like an ancient tube TV).
• Melissa explains this is a generational habit, stemming from Depression-era scarcity carried into their lives.
• Both share tales of excess—stacks of National Geographics, dental floss, and other oddities saved “just in case.”
• Callers affirm the universality of old family members’ tendency to “never throw anything away” ([18:59]).

Notable Quotes/Moments:

• “You never know when you’re going to need it again.” — Melissa, channeling her dad [16:31]
• “He sold a boat engine...I didn't even know we had a boat for a boat under there.” — Jeff [17:14]

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3. Reality Show Auditions & Behind-the-Scenes

[19:42 – 24:03]

Key Discussion Points:

• Joanna reveals she’s participating in filming for a reality wedding show—she applied pre-engagement at the urge of a friend.
• Her fiancé will appear but “not a speaking role” due to his on-camera shyness.
• She shares the experience is exciting, but there’s no guarantee it’ll air.
• The group jokes about representing the Bert Show on TV before show host Burt himself gets a shot.

Notable Quotes/Moments:

• “He will be on it, but not a speaking role.” — Joanna [21:02]
• “I am taping a reality show today just based on the fact that someone I know is.” — Jeff [23:41]

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4. Accidental Texting: When "Hey Baby" Goes to the Wrong Jeff

[24:03 – 27:57]

Key Discussion Points:

• Joanna once sent an affectionate “Hey, baby, everyone loves my ring, I love you” text to coworker Jeff instead of fiancé Jason.
• The group riff on the awkwardness of misdirected affectionate texts and share past mishaps.
• They joke about pet names, sexting, and the perils of contact list placement.

Notable Quotes/Moments:

• “I was so embarrassed when I realized...I always double check, because it’s happened to me in the past..." — Joanna [25:10]
• “Crap. Why couldn’t I have gotten her a ring, too?” — Jeff [26:15]

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5. Hot Husbands: Redbook’s National Search

[27:57 – 32:12]

Key Discussion Points:

• Listener Suzanne calls in to campaign for her husband Zach, a finalist in Redbook’s “hottest husband” contest.
• Suzanne describes the nomination process and the ensuing family excitement.
• Melissa notes the healthy confidence it takes for a wife to enter her husband in such a contest and not feel threatened by attention.
• Voting logistics and potential prize (a trip to Antigua) are detailed.

Notable Quotes:

• “A lot of people have always told me how attractive Zach is, so I thought, you know, why not?” — Suzanne [28:29]
• “He doesn’t really take a bad picture.” — Suzanne [30:15]

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6. Boss Behavior: When Being Nice Means You Might Get Fired

[32:12 – 43:47]

Key Discussion Points:

• Mindy, on the voice modulator, suspects her boss’s abrupt shift from difficult to charming (gifts, coffee, help) signals something’s up.
• The group weighs whether it’s the prelude to termination, sexual harassment, promotion—or just misplaced guilt.
• Several listeners call in, sharing similar experiences or warning of possible underlying motives.
• Advice flows: Should Mindy confront her boss? Go above him? Get documentation? Wait it out?

Notable Quotes/Moments:

• “The coffee or Starbucks chip was like a Judas scone.” — Jeff [34:30]
• “It’s just the 180 of behavior...he’s like, asking her, is there anything I can help you with?” — Caller [40:44]
• “If you can get it in writing...then you have a better case than a he said, she said kind of thing.” — Melissa [41:31]

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Memorable Show Moments & Tone

• The group dynamic is warm, quick-witted, and supportive, setting a relatable, “hang with your friends” mood.
• Listener engagement is high—callers’ real stories amplify and ground each segment.
• There’s a recurring playfulness around embarrassment, with cast and callers comfortable poking fun at themselves.

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Notable Quotes Collection

| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------------------|----------------| | 02:25 | “People who snore have no idea that they do.” | Jeff | | 04:49 | “If it comes to be known that I'm a snorer...surgery done.” | Wendy | | 08:01 | “I have women that snore much louder than men...” | Stephanie | | 16:31 | “You never know when you’re going to need it again.” | Melissa | | 21:02 | “He will be on it, but not a speaking role.” | Joanna | | 26:15 | “Crap. Why couldn’t I have gotten her a ring, too?” | Jeff | | 34:30 | “Like the coffee...was like a Judas scone.” | Jeff | | 40:44 | “It’s just the 180 of behavior...anything I can help you with?”| Caller | | 41:31 | “If you can get it in writing...than a he said, she said.” | Melissa |

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Final Thoughts

If you missed the episode, you missed the Bert team at their best: unguarded, entertaining, and honestly reflecting real-life moments everyone can relate to—whether that’s snoring, saving junk, chasing a bit of fame, or deciphering a boss’s motives. Listener calls elevate each segment, proving embarrassment is often best faced with humor—and a little help from friends.

Transcript

[Wendy]

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[Caller/Listener]

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[Melissa]

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[Jeff]

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[Melissa]

Aww.

[Wendy]

I don't really know if I do or not.

[Jeff]

You do.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, no.

[Wendy]

Well, she did this because I was. I was your studio and I passed out on the couch because it was a long night before because I didn't get much sleep. I wasn't feeling well. Ended up having a huge sinus infection because went to the doctor after I left here, but I was on the couch and had to be on antibiotics.

[Melissa]

Jeff, why are you being so mean?

[Wendy]

Jeff is so sweet and trusting and caring in this nest of comfort that we work in.

[Melissa]

Our father figure on the show, Jeff Dollar.

[Wendy]

Yeah, he decided to. He decided to record it and play it on the air, which sounded really sexy. Got me a lot of dates. But no. A couple of weekends ago we went out, went out with a girlfriend of mine and came over, back over to her place and crashed out. Spent the night. The next morning, wake up, she was like, girl, you were snoring bad. I was like, what? Because I at this point didn't realize that I snored.

[Melissa]

I thought you don't know if. Nobody knows if unless somebody else tells them.

[Wendy]

I think I'm a peaceful sleeper at night. I don't.

[Jeff]

The weirdest thing about snoring because I haven't slept downstairs in our master bedroom with Jessica since getting back from Burt's Big Adventure because I know that when I am sick, especially when I'm plugged, I sound like a bear getting attacked. Like I am not.

[Melissa]

Oh, is anybody recording you snoring now?

[Caller/Listener]

She has.

[Melissa]

Oh, she has cause we need to play that to be fair.

[Jeff]

And so I don't even subject her to that. Cause she's a. Not a super sound sleeper. But the thing is, when that happens, she wakes me up and I fight her. Because for me, everything was fine. If there's that much noise in a room to wake someone up, I should be hearing it. But people who snore have no idea that they do.

[Melissa]

Right.

[Wendy]

Well, that night, I was spending the night with my friend. We had been drinking, and I think when you drink, your nasal passages get clogged up anyway. So I think that drinking had something to do with it. So maybe I need to do an experiment during the week and, like, record myself, because I don't think I'm a snorer. I think it's just on those occasions, like when you're sick or you had a long night out that I snore.

[Melissa]

But I don't.

[Wendy]

Oh, God, I hope I'm not a snorer. Because I got so annoyed with my dad growing up because that's all he did was snore. And I could not sleep to save my life because he was snoring.

[Jeff]

Do you think there are women who are listening to this show who do not. Who have not entered into a relationship with a man because they know they snore?

[Melissa]

Yes. Jen Hobby actually said that she would never date a guy who snored.

[Jeff]

No.

[Melissa]

Is that what you're talking about?

[Jeff]

A woman snores?

[Melissa]

Oh, yeah, There's. You know what? Because I think you always associate snoring with men. Because it's usually louder with men. I don't know very many women. Because both my mother and father snore. My father was the all the neighbors could hear him snore kind of guy. Mom was the very. Yeah, it was always the little. You know, just little. Little dainty snore. But still something. She still makes noise, you know. Sorry. Are you okay? She collapsed his sinus.

[Jeff]

If you're going to record yourself, I think you. I mean, in order to be fair, you have to do it when you're healthy.

[Melissa]

Yeah, agreed.

[Jeff]

But I do think it's important to do it after you've had a couple drinks because you want to try to recreate the scenario where you would end up at a guy's house. Cause that would be your big concern. Right.

[Melissa]

So what you're saying is a woman who's not entered a relationship because she's afraid that she snores, she's gonna turn the guy off.

[Jeff]

She knows that she snores so she puts off whatever she.

[Melissa]

So, Wendy, you can never date again.

[Wendy]

I know.

[Joanna]

I don't even want to go over

[Wendy]

to a guy's house and just, like, you know, like, maybe fall asleep, like, nap style and just fall asleep on the couch and end up snoring away and he's just hanging out. He's like, huh. I'm not gonna call this girl back.

[Jeff]

I have to tell you, I do think it would be. I mean, I would like to encourage you and say it's no big deal, but I do think it would be

[Melissa]

a deal breaker for you if a woman snores.

[Jeff]

It'd be weird.

[Melissa]

Really?

[Joanna]

It is weird.

[Wendy]

If it comes to be known that I'm a snorer, I will buy snore strips. I will go get a surgery done.

[Melissa]

You can't help it. You can.

[Wendy]

You don't get, like. Can't you get a nose job or, like, sinus cleaning out?

[Melissa]

Well, they scrape, like, the. For the snore things.

[Jeff]

Okay, Scrape is not a word that we're going to use on the show.

[Melissa]

That's a word. That's a word that's used in the procedure. So I don't think that's. I mean.

[Wendy]

Well, I'll go have my sinus scraped if that. If it comes to be known that

[Melissa]

I am a snorer.

[Wendy]

Yeah, I said it's just. It's not cute. It's not attractive.

[Jeff]

Hey, Matt. Welcome to the show.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, guys.

[Jeff]

What's going on?

[Caller/Listener]

My wife is a 39 week, 39 weeks pregnant right now, and she snores so loud. I've actually, like, had to sleep in another room for a couple of. Couple of nights, but now.

[Jeff]

Wendy, are you pregnant?

[Wendy]

No, I'm not pregnant.

[Melissa]

Didn't Burt say that about Stacey when she's pregnant with both Hayden and Hollis?

[Jeff]

I don't think it's fair, though. I don't think that's an equal because it's temporary snoring. And a pregnant woman can get away with anything.

[Wendy]

She can do whatever she wants.

[Melissa]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Hey, Brandon. Welcome to the show.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, Jeff. Hey, guys.

[Jeff]

What's going on?

[Caller/Listener]

I just wanted to tell y', all, man. You know the butterfly thing for your nose that opens it up? Man, I don't know how I ever slept without it. My wife snored so bad. Put those on. She sleeps like a baby.

[Melissa]

Really? Okay, so it does work.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes, 100%.

[Jeff]

Now, from a guy's point of view, let's say your wife is not your wife. She's a girl that you've been dating for a few weeks, and you guys are out, and you decide that that's gonna be the night, that she spends the night for the first time at your place, and she steps into the restroom at some point, you know, y' all are getting romantic and comes back out with one of those breathe strips on her nose. What is the bigger turnoff?

[Caller/Listener]

The snoring.

[Jeff]

The sleep strip is more acceptable than the snoring.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

Because, I mean, to wake up and look at that woman as she's going.

[Melissa]

Her mouth open.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, mouth open, drool on it. You know, I want to sleep through that.

[Melissa]

Now, isn't there a little bit of a double standard going on here? Because men. Because, I mean, Jen. Jen has said before that if a guy ended up being a snorer, that she. That would be a deal breaker for her. Because men snoring, men sneezing, men being heavy breathers. I mean, no offense, because I think it's because men just. I mean, I'm just going on the, you know, men being kind of bigger. Bigger body mass, bulkier, but it just is louder. And it just always. Like, a woman sneezing and a man sneezing are, like, two completely different things.

[Jeff]

Nothing weirds me out more than a man who's got those silent sneezes where you look at him and he's like, dude, what just happened? He's like, I just sneezed. And I'm like, no, you didn't.

[Melissa]

That's dangerous if a guy does that.

[Jeff]

Right? Hey, Stephanie, welcome to the show. Hey, Stephanie.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey. Hey.

[Jeff]

How are you?

[Caller/Listener]

I'm good. How are you?

[Jeff]

Good. How long have you been snoring?

[Caller/Listener]

I haven't. I work in a sleep center.

[Wendy]

Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

And I was coming on Melissa's comment about it being a male. More men.

[Jeff]

Right.

[Caller/Listener]

I've had women that snore 10 times worse than men.

[Melissa]

I don't know. I didn't say that more men snore, because I do think plenty of women, so I just think they. They're louder.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh. I have women that snore much louder than men.

[Melissa]

Really?

[Caller/Listener]

You would think they pulled the paint off the wall. Yes.

[Melissa]

And I love how she says, I don't snore. I work at a sleep center. I don't snore.

[Jeff]

Hey, Mary.

[Melissa]

Don't snore.

[Jeff]

Hey, Mary. Welcome to the show.

[Mindy]

Hey.

[Melissa]

Hey.

[Caller/Listener]

When my sister was in college, he's never had a lack of dates. Very attractive, Constantly being asked out. She got intimate with a guy, and she said the next morning, he told her. Hey, do you know that you snore like a bull elephant?

[Wendy]

Oh.

[Caller/Listener]

And she was so offended. That drastically changed how she thought about herself, the idea of sleeping with someone, and she said it kind of scarred her for life. And she's always been paranoid about it. And eventually she got her adenoids taken out. But she says she always remembers being told she snored like a bull elephant and never felt sexy again.

[Melissa]

What's an adenoid?

[Caller/Listener]

Something in your nose. Your nose.

[Melissa]

The part they scrape out.

[Jeff]

Was she offended at all that she had been intimate with a guy who obviously has been intimate with a bull elephant? Hey, Teresa. Welcome to the show.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, guys.

[Jeff]

What's up?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, you know, you asked a little bit ago if anybody had not gotten into relationships because they snore.

[Jeff]

Right?

[Caller/Listener]

And I snore awful. And I purposely stay out of relationships with different people once I find out that they're light sleepers or that snoring actually bothers them.

[Jeff]

How did you. How did you learn that you were a bad snorer?

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, my kids, they. We went on a trip, and they told me that, mom, you're ridiculous. You snore in octaves. They said, it is so sad. We cannot even sleep in the same room with you.

[Melissa]

Oh, well, can't help it. I just feel bad that everybody. You can't help it if you snore.

[Jeff]

Hey, Lisa. Welcome to the show.

[Caller/Listener]

Hi.

[Mindy]

Hi.

[Caller/Listener]

Hi. I love your show. I work at a sleep center also, and I just want to tell you that snoring doesn't always come through your nose. It comes through your throat. So it's a matter of which way it comes through. And it could actually be more something like apnea. And the Breathe right strips don't always work, so. And weight does play a part of it.

[Jeff]

Q100, here's Wendy. Q100, here's Wendy.

[Melissa]

Or producer. Natalie's running the board now, and she didn't like what that woman just said.

[Jeff]

Yes. No, it always comes through your nose.

[Joanna]

You know what?

[Melissa]

But I see what you're saying, that if you are snore through your throat, that the Breathe Right strips won't work. I got it. She's so offensive.

[Jeff]

She's gone.

[Melissa]

She's like, that was just rude. I used to listen to your show.

[Jeff]

Hey, Trisha. Welcome to the show.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, good morning. Love your show, guys.

[Mindy]

Thank you.

[Caller/Listener]

Hi. I have been dating a guy for two years, and several months after we started dating, we tried to have a nice romantic weekend, and I ended up not sleeping for 48 hours because of his snoring. So in the last 18 months, we've never slept together again.

[Melissa]

Oh, honey.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, it's been hard, but I mean, he just goes home, you know, that's.

[Melissa]

You know, it's to the point that you're together, but then when it's time to sleep, you just sleep separately.

[Caller/Listener]

That's correct.

[Jeff]

Well, we did learn. We did learn that it is more attractive to put the. The strip on the low breathe rate thing from one guy.

[Wendy]

I'm not.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, it's not just that he snores, but he quits breathing, so it's a matter of. I mean, he has a bad sleep apnea. So I'm up all night making him breathe again.

[Melissa]

Resuscitating him bad.

[Jeff]

Details.

[Melissa]

You know what the solution is? Let him sleep by himself. And if he doesn't wake up.

[Jeff]

Hey, listen, it's not my fault. I was in the other room. Maybe they make those strips in pink

[Wendy]

or something cute or clear, like nude color so they match your skin color.

[Jeff]

That's how you're gonna get rich. Wendy.

[Wendy]

Invent that foundation looking nose strips.

[Jeff]

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[Melissa]

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[Wendy]

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[Melissa]

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[Mindy]

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[Wendy]

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[Joanna]

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[Suzanne]

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[Wendy]

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[Melissa]

But you can also switch back and

[Wendy]

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[Melissa]

the AI gives you. Nope.

[Wendy]

I mean, the results are pretty nice, but you can jump in and mess with whatever. Oh, that's neat. Try it for [e-mail] Harmony.

[Jeff]

This is the Birch Show. Melissa, I have a question. Are you about your mom?

[Melissa]

Yes.

[Jeff]

Because I need to know if your mom's like my parents.

[Melissa]

Yes.

[Jeff]

Because here's the dilemma that I have run into.

[Melissa]

Okay.

[Jeff]

I think my parents are hoarders.

[Wendy]

Okay.

[Melissa]

Why is that?

[Jeff]

Because we go back to visit and they have stuff that they don't like. And I'll give you a perfect example.

[Melissa]

Well, first, their age. Like, age range.

[Jeff]

My dad's in his early 70s. My mom's in her mid-60s.

[Melissa]

I think that's very important.

[Jeff]

And my dad, who has the problem. And I have seen it develop with me. I'VE seen. I have the tendencies. So I'm trying to break those and I'm trying to help my parents break those habits as well. But I will give you the perfect example. We were up there visiting a couple weeks ago for the weekend. And it was Valentine's weekend and my parents had a TV that was, I don't know how old, but the color had gotten so faded that it was like everything was kind of brownish, right? And it was just big old like old school tv.

[Melissa]

Like tube TV where it's big box.

[Jeff]

Yep, old school tv. Well, so I was at their house and I saw an ad in the local paper for a flat screen TV that would fit within their thing that was on sale for like half off, discontinued, whatever that floor model, something like that. It was an incredible deal. And I said, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna buy that for my parents and I'm just gonna bring it over and I'm gonna take the old one out and put the new one in. So I did that. It was great, right? So then I say to my dad, cause I don't want him carrying the big old tv. I'm like, hey, do you wanna pull the car out and put this in the trunk and then you can take it to wherever and donate it or do whatever. And he goes, no, put it in the basement.

[Wendy]

What?

[Suzanne]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

And I go, why do you want me to put it in the basement? Because if I carry it down, you have to carry it up and I don't want you carrying stuff up the stairs. It's a heavy tv. And he goes, well, what am I going to do with it in the car? And I said, well, do anything. Drive to a church, drive to a, you know, whatever they're called. You know those shops where you like the Goodwill? Goodwill store. Thank you. Yeah, something like that. I said, take it to a pawn store and they'll give you 10 bucks for it. Whatever, just put it in the car. And he goes, just get rid of it. No, no, no, no. Put it in the basement. And I could not talk him out of keeping that television. And it's now in the basement, literally in a corner of junk now, you

[Melissa]

know, because my mom, Millie Peach, she's 80 now, so about the same age, a little older than your parents, but yes, I think that is a generational thing. The reason I asked their age is because you have to remember these are the people of the Depression, the children of the Depression, not the adults. These are the children of those that went through the stock market Crash. So at the time of the stock market crash, everybody was having to keep stuff because they were running out of things. So you never knew when you're gonna get the next whatever, right? So my mother and father were that way their entire lives. Like, my father has passed away, so hopefully he's not gonna, like, haunt me because of this telling the story. But we would foster him because he. It was so bad that we would be on a road trip and he would, like, if. I don't know, he'd use dental floss or whatever. He would save the thread of dental floss that he had used to use it for later. Like, he wouldn't throw away the string of dental floss that he had just used. Because it's almost like we're like, dad, there's plenty. There's plenty of dental floss in the drugstores and in the grocery stores. You don't have to save that piece. But it's that mentality of, like, you never know when you're gonna need it. Your father's like, you know what? That's a good tv. It still works.

[Jeff]

It's not a good tv.

[Melissa]

Everything is worked, but it worked in his mind. He's like, you never know when you're going to need it again. And then here. Here we are in our generation that we just. I think we, you know, waste a lot of stuff. So we're like the complete opposite of them. But, yeah, Mom's the same way. I think it was just when my father passed away. I think we finally. She moved from one house to the other. And so I think that move was a good way for us, her three children, to say, you've got to get rid of all this stuff.

[Jeff]

And was she okay with getting rid of it?

[Melissa]

No, I think that it was. I mean, because you talk about magazines like National Geographics. What are you going to do with all those National. Did you even read?

[Mindy]

Yes.

[Melissa]

My parents saved National Geographics Digest. What do you need this Reader's Digest for? The read on the toilet.

[Jeff]

The best was.

[Wendy]

That's where they always sat in my house.

[Melissa]

Yes. Digesting the back of the toilet. Yeah.

[Jeff]

The best was the. My dad calls me a couple years ago. Well, I sold that old boat engine. They go, what? They're like, yeah, the boat engine that was under the stairs in the basement. I'm like, I didn't even know we had a boat for a boat under there. And he goes, yep, sold it to a guy. And he was all proud of himself because he sold it to a guy who had an antique boat, you know, and this engine was like the original engine for the boat. So he sold it to him. So then he realized that, like, he could start cleaning. So I thought he's like, so I'm gonna start cleaning stuff out. I thought he was cleaning things out, you know, like, stuff he wasn't. He's like, he's selling metal for scrap and stuff. Like, he's not selling anything worthwhile or getting rid of anything that could be useful. Like if a screwdriver handle broke off and he kept the metal part.

[Melissa]

But he learned that from his parents. Because that's what they did back then and now. I mean, for our listeners. I mean. Cause Jeff and my parents were older, so.

[Wendy]

But you.

[Melissa]

I mean, go to your grandparents or your great grandparents, if they're still living their home. And you will see there is some. The basement, a guest room. Under the bed, in the closet, there is a stack of something just random that they won't get rid of. Like, mom would always keep different types of materials in case she was gonna, you know, make a quilt or something. It's like, well, you don't have to. I mean, we don't live in the mountains where you have to make the quilt. And that's the only blanket we'll ever have.

[Jeff]

Deep stuffing the quilt with old pairs of jeans. We gotta stay warm, Melissa. We're gonna freeze, Mom. There's a mal. Walking distance. You can't well know what might happen.

[Caller/Listener]

You never know.

[Jeff]

It can't be just us, Melissa, because everybody's calling up like, I. Good morning, Ivory. Hey, how are you?

[Caller/Listener]

I am great, man.

[Jeff]

Same issue, dude, the worst.

[Caller/Listener]

My mom is from North Carolina. And I mean, she literally has a 10 by 10 square foot kitchen that has two tables in it with a set of chairs around each table.

[Melissa]

Because you never know.

[Jeff]

You never know when you might have company. You never know when those people might come over. It's the Birch Show. So one Birch show member is chasing reality TV dreams. Another bird show member, not talking about Burt, is holding it in her bosom.

[Melissa]

Oh, Bert is chasing another one. Is.

[Jeff]

Has it right there.

[Melissa]

Has it there.

[Jeff]

Is hugging it.

[Joanna]

He's holding it and squeezing it.

[Jeff]

So I know you have to be vague about it, but Joanna has an exciting adventure today. A reality TV show adventure.

[Joanna]

Yeah. So few weeks. No, probably a few months ago. And I feel really stupid saying this. Cause this was prior to my engagement, but my best friend was shopping for a wedding gown. And the place that she bought her wedding gown for was holding auditions for a Reality show for people who are engaged. And I filled out an application even though I wasn't engaged at the time.

[Melissa]

So you didn't have to tell us that part. But that's funny.

[Joanna]

But it.

[Jeff]

But we sure are glad you did.

[Melissa]

I'm glad you did.

[Joanna]

I know what makes good radio. And if I told you that I did it after I got engaged, it wouldn't be as interesting.

[Jeff]

Right.

[Joanna]

So anyways, they called me and they told me that they would like to do the reality show. And it's filming today. I can't say what it is yet because it's still in the works and I'm really excited about it.

[Wendy]

Very cool.

[Jeff]

So is it a reality show that involves you and your new fiance, Jason, or is it just something that you are gonna participate in?

[Joanna]

No, he will be, because you've told

[Jeff]

us before that he's gonna be really bad on tv if he ever gets on tv.

[Joanna]

Yeah, There'll just be pictures of him, which is great cause he's a good looking guy, but he doesn't need to talk because he doesn't do very good on the camera. He's a great guy. I love him and he has a great personality, but not on camera. So, yes, he will be on it, but not a speaking role.

[Wendy]

Going back, applying for it before you were engaged, how far in advance did you apply for this show?

[Joanna]

Probably a few weeks before it happened.

[Wendy]

So in January?

[Joanna]

Yes, sometime in January.

[Melissa]

And they did ask me because like six months ago.

[Joanna]

They did call me last year.

[Caller/Listener]

No.

[Joanna]

And they did call me and they asked me, you know, are you engaged? And I said, not yet. And they said, well, if you are not engaged and we do pick you for. For this reality show, then will your boyfriend be upset? And I said, well, I'm not sure if he'd be upset, but he lives two hours away, so it'll take him a little while to get up here to try and stop me from doing it. So it's today at 1. I'm really excited about it. Some of my bridesmaids are gonna be there, my mom is gonna be there. So it's like a cool family thing now.

[Melissa]

When will we be able to know what it is?

[Joanna]

Hopefully in the fall.

[Melissa]

Okay. All right. So it's a little while.

[Jeff]

So are you guaranteed gonna be on tv?

[Joanna]

That's what I don't know. I don't know if it's one of those things. A whole bunch of different takes and then decide which ones they want to use for the actual show. So I'm going in and thinking it's a really cool experience, hoping to get out of it, what. What the purpose of the show is. And if I get on, you know, tv, that's gonna be awesome. But I don't. I don't want to get my hopes up. You know, like, I don't wanna get my hopes up and think it's gonna happen and then it not.

[Melissa]

Okay. But at least you're at the point where they're filming you guys and. And hopefully maybe get on TV in the fall.

[Joanna]

Yes.

[Jeff]

Will you be able to tell us what it is after it tapes, or do you have to wait until it airs?

[Joanna]

I actually spoke with the producer, and I told her that I work for a radio show in Atlanta, and I would love to be able to talk about it, and she said she'd be looking into it.

[Suzanne]

Okay.

[Joanna]

So that if I can talk about it before it actually airs.

[Jeff]

Have you told Bert this about the show?

[Joanna]

Yeah, he found out yesterday.

[Jeff]

Because you're filming a reality show before he is.

[Mindy]

Yeah.

[Melissa]

I think it'd be funny if hers airs before his does.

[Jeff]

Oh, that's funny. And you're not gonna wear that, right?

[Joanna]

No, actually, I purposely didn't put makeup on because I'm gonna rush home and actually put makeup on and get ready for. Because it's at 1:00'.

[Melissa]

Clock.

[Jeff]

Okay, good.

[Joanna]

Yes.

[Melissa]

You didn't have to answer or justify to him, but by just making sure,

[Jeff]

I mean, we're gonna be represented on tv, you want to make sure everybody's looking good.

[Caller/Listener]

We?

[Jeff]

Yeah, the show.

[Mindy]

Okay.

[Jeff]

We.

[Mindy]

Okay.

[Wendy]

You're part of a team.

[Melissa]

Is that what you're saying to Burt, too? Just like we. I'm a part of two reality shows.

[Jeff]

Yeah. I am going to tell people today that I am taping a reality show today just based on the fact that someone I know is. Well, good luck and break a leg.

[Suzanne]

Yeah.

[Melissa]

Thank you, Joanna. Congratulations.

[Caller/Listener]

It's awesome.

[Jeff]

That's it. Do you get paid?

[Joanna]

No, no, unfortunately, I get paid for that.

[Wendy]

You have to pay for it.

[Jeff]

Well, we need to talk to someone about that because we need to be making some money off this.

[Joanna]

I know I'm a great talent in this town, and they really need to know that.

[Melissa]

Isn't that what you said a few months ago, Jeff?

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

You're on the vert show. The Burt Show. Oddly enough, when we were in Disney for Burt's Big Adventure, I was the recipient of an incorrectly placed text message from our very own Joanna. And she corrected it very quickly, but the reaction, like, I. It didn't process. That she sent it to the wrong person. At first, like, I thought it was an inside joke that I had missed, but. And I deleted it as soon as I deleted it. I regret. Well, I remember what it said. It was a text message. And it was like, hey, baby, everybody loves my ring. I love you. And I was like. And I saw it come in from Joanna, so I figured it was work related. And then it says, hey, baby, everybody loves my ring, I love you. And I'm like, I don't get the joke.

[Melissa]

But Jason, Jeff, I mean, I can sit where they're.

[Jeff]

Apparently Joanna needs some more friends whose name started with J, A, J, B, JC or jd.

[Melissa]

Right.

[Joanna]

I was so embarrassed when I realized, because I always double check, because it's happened to me in the past where I go to send Jason a text and I've accidentally scrolled down one too far because you're right below him. And I realize, oh, no, no, no, not Jeff, but Jason. So I go back and I fix it. Well, this time I didn't. And when I went look at my phone to see if Jason had written back and it says Jeff$, I was like, oh, my gosh, I feel like such an idiot.

[Jeff]

Well, it was only a couple minutes. It's later.

[Wendy]

Because I was actually, like, dirty talk, sexting. Nothing like that.

[Joanna]

And that's what I was afraid of because I was like, I'm not. You know, let's. You know, we've sent text messages like that in the past, so.

[Melissa]

Like pictures.

[Joanna]

Yeah, me and Jason.

[Wendy]

It wasn't a photo or anything like that.

[Jeff]

I sent them to Joanna, but she never responds.

[Melissa]

Right.

[Jeff]

She must just. She must just assume that they're for other people or. But I was like, I'm staring at it, going, I don't get the joke.

[Melissa]

Well, if it's a sexed message, then Jeff would have totally said it's for me and not Jason. So it's, you know, the ring thing. At least you can't claim that.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Crap. Why couldn't I have gotten her a ring, too? Then I could have saved it and pretended she loved me. But then, like two minutes later, she wrote, oh, my God, so sorry. That was.

[Melissa]

Well, I mean, it came up because Katie accidentally sent a message to a former lover. To a former. Well, yeah. And so. But it was totally resolved. But, yeah, she was so embarrassed because it wasn't to me. It was just to a friend. But the way it was worded to the friend, it was, hey, miss you. When can I see you again? To her college buddy. But Then when it ended up being somebody in the phone that, you know

[Jeff]

she had a past encounter with.

[Melissa]

She had a past encounter with. Then, yeah. Then it had a totally different context, you know?

[Jeff]

So, Joanna, I'm glad everybody likes your ring and I'd love you to.

[Joanna]

Thank you. I wanted him to know that people were complimenting me on my ring. I want him to know he did a good job. And then I felt like an idiot when I sent it to Jeff.

[Melissa]

I love you, Jeff. Everybody loves my.

[Mindy]

Hey, baby J.

[Melissa]

Hey, baby.

[Wendy]

Hi, baby.

[Jeff]

I forgot. Crap. I was gonna call you baby all day today and I forgot.

[Joanna]

I'm glad I didn't call him call you by his new little pet name. That would have been really.

[Melissa]

Don't.

[Joanna]

I'm not gonna say it on the air, but I'm saying you would have really given me crap for that.

[Jeff]

Do you know what it is?

[Melissa]

No, I don't. I'm just saying that Jason, I'm sure, does not want her to say it on him.

[Jeff]

Little pookie.

[Melissa]

Woo.

[Jeff]

How's my little monster hug, my smarty pants military man?

[Wendy]

My fiance wants it.

[Jeff]

It's all right. Well, thanks, baby.

[Mindy]

Bye.

[Wendy]

Bye. Love you.

[Jeff]

Love you. Bye bye. Bye. Love you.

[Melissa]

Sexual harassment.

[Jeff]

She won't say it. She started it. I have the text message to prove it. The Bird Show.

[Suzanne]

So Suzanne here is taking us up on our offer, and she wants to use our show to get some notoriety for her husband, who is in a competition to be, like, the nation's hottest husband. And a lot of women, I think, would be insecure by that. Like, I don't know.

[Melissa]

Yeah, she's already landed him. That's her man.

[Suzanne]

That's how she's feeling.

[Melissa]

Hey, Suzanne.

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning. How are you?

[Suzanne]

Good, how are you?

[Caller/Listener]

I'm good, thank you.

[Suzanne]

All right, now, you and your husband live in the cula here?

[Caller/Listener]

We do.

[Suzanne]

Okay. And how did he get nominated for hottest husband? Did you do the nominating or did somebody do it for you?

[Caller/Listener]

Actually, I did it. I was flipping through the magazine and I saw the little tidbit and I thought, well, you know, a lot of people have always told me how attractive Zach is, and so I thought, you know, why not? So I entered in the contest, and a couple weeks ago, they called and let us know that he was kind of a finalist and awesome. And I know I had to answer a bunch of questions and send in some pictures. And then actually on his birthday, they called to tell us that he made the top 22.

[Suzanne]

Wow. So he was up there for a while. With like 50 other guys and they've made their first cuts.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, they. I think it was like a national wide search, and then they. I think they cut it down to. I'm not sure exactly how many. They just, when they originally called, just said, you know, we are making the final selections and he's one of them. So just give us as much information as you can and send in some more pictures. And then from there, they picked the top 22.

[Melissa]

Have we talked about what magazine it is?

[Suzanne]

Not yet.

[Melissa]

Okay. All right.

[Mindy]

You can.

[Melissa]

Yeah. Which magazine is it actually?

[Caller/Listener]

Red Book.

[Wendy]

Red Book.

[Melissa]

Okay. Awesome.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah. So. And we're very excited. He's. He's a little taken back, I think, by it at first. I didn't tell him when I did it, and when they called originally, I thought, well, maybe I should mess up and see how he feels. And he was a little like. You did? What?

[Suzanne]

Is he a guy that knows he's good looking or is he one of these guys? Like, I don't see it. I have no idea.

[Caller/Listener]

No, I mean, you know, he takes it in stride. He's just not one of those guys that's like, I'm so hot, you know, And I think he knows he's a good guy, he's an attractive guy, but he doesn't flaunt it. You know, he's not one of those

[Suzanne]

guys, so you'll flaunt it for him.

[Melissa]

So what was the process like going through to pick out what picture to send in? Because if you didn't tell him, he obviously didn't pose for, like, super hot pictures or anything. You just had to pick ones you already had.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

And, you know, it's. It's funny because it's like you said, you know, as you're talking about earlier, you know, the insecurity. Zach is so photogenic. It's really hard. Like, he doesn't really take a bad picture. So it was kind of like just going through family shots and, you know, sending in pictures with the girls or sending pictures in with me and then, you know, just cropping, you know, down to just him.

[Melissa]

So you said the girls. You guys have daughters?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, we have two girls, Madison and Kendall. They're eight and five and they are big time daddy girls. They love their dad.

[Suzanne]

This is so different from the conversation we had a couple of months ago with that one guy that was calling up saying that there were no pictures of him anywhere in the house.

[Melissa]

Yes.

[Suzanne]

The wife was taking him down because she didn't think he was good looking, Right?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah. No, It's. It's not that way at all. I mean, actually, Zach and Madison. Madison, my oldest, they are. They love photos. I mean, if you see a camera, like, they're posing and take the picture, and Kendall and I are always like, okay, let's take your picture. So we take. Kind of stay behind the scenes and do our thing.

[Suzanne]

So at the end of the day, what do you guys get if he wins?

[Caller/Listener]

We get a vacation package. I think it's to Antigua. So we're very, you know, really kind of excited about the possibility of doing that. We didn't really go on a, like, vacation honeymoon. So this is kind of going to be a nice little treat if we actually get to go.

[Jeff]

Have you talked to him? Will he take you?

[Caller/Listener]

No. My dad's joked several times like, hey, your mom and I have never been there. And I'm like, well, you'll get a week with your kids, your grandkids.

[Suzanne]

Well, you can help these guys out because we have a link right on up to his voting [e-mail]. So when does the voting go through?

[Caller/Listener]

It is through March 19, so if you guys can vote, vote, vote, that'd be great.

[Suzanne]

All right, so we've got some time here to remind people. But, yeah, you can go up online. You can go to our website right now, q100atlanta.com click on the Burt show. One of the first things you'll see up there is dude's photo, and you can vote right for him. And his name again is Zack Miller. Zach. All right, good luck.

[Melissa]

Yes.

[Caller/Listener]

All right, thanks so much, guys.

[Suzanne]

Thanks, Suzanne.

[Caller/Listener]

Bye.

[Suzanne]

Bye.

[Jeff]

The bird show. The bird show. And now we have to talk to Mindy. Okay, the problem with Mindy is there's too much good news from happening in her world. So Mindy needs to be on the voice disguiser. So make sure you're turned up.

[Caller/Listener]

Good.

[Jeff]

How are you, Mindy?

[Mindy]

I'm good. How are you?

[Caller/Listener]

Good.

[Jeff]

So too much good things. Too many good things happening at work, huh?

[Mindy]

Yeah, what's happening is I'm a little bit afraid that I'm gonna be fired

[Melissa]

in a few days because your boss is being nice.

[Mindy]

Yeah, well, see, the thing is, he's never. He's never like this.

[Melissa]

Okay.

[Mindy]

He's the kind of guy who makes everything harder than it needs to to be, you know, like, for example, we have this area where projects feel. It's like an inbox, and it's right by his desk, and he will literally walk, like, 10ft to where my desk is just to give Me, papers and projects and things to go put in the box. And, you know, and then he'll do things like where he'll email somebody or. I'm sorry, he'll have me email somebody when it'd be so much easier for him just to do it himself. You know, he's not. He's not productive, and he's just. He's just overall just kind of an annoying guy. You know, he's one of those guys who just really takes advantage of his power, and he never acts like this, but lately he's been, like, completely over the top, really considerate, really cool to me. Twice last week, he brought me Starbucks, and he always comes in every day, you know, with Starbucks for himself. But he. The first time he asked me what I wanted, and I ordered a chai and some scones. And then the next, you know, I guess it was a couple of days later, he brought in the same thing, remembered what I like, you know, and, you know, normally I would think he was just being really nice, and it's great. And don't get me wrong, it's been a pleasure to work with him. But the reason I'm concerned is because this happened before to somebody else in her office, and like, you know, two or three weeks after this all started happening, she was fired.

[Melissa]

So you've seen him behave this way to somebody else, and it didn't end well.

[Jeff]

So it's like the. Like the coffee or the Starbucks chip was like a Judas scone.

[Melissa]

Like, you did, too, Brute. Yeah, well, I mean, because I think it's just a change of behavior. Maybe he's feeling. Maybe with that other employee. Just felt guilty about it, and I don't know. It could end up a promotion. But I told Jeff off air that I would. I mean, it's. I mean, Bert certainly is not the kind of boss like you described your boss as being, you know, but. But if he was, like, overly nice to me, like, in paying a lot of attention to me, it would weird me out, like, you know, I don't know, because there's a change in behavior, you know, what does this mean? Why are you doing this? Yeah.

[Wendy]

Are any other employees getting Starbucks orders in their coffee?

[Mindy]

No. Which is really weird. I mean, I am his assistant, you know, and we work very closely together, but it just. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't add up to me, you know, why all of a sudden now,

[Jeff]

now, outside of that, you said, like, the stuff that he does normally, like, email you to email people that he can email himself that Type of thing.

[Suzanne]

Right.

[Mindy]

Which.

[Jeff]

Is he still doing that or is he started doing that himself?

[Mindy]

That I haven't noticed as much.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Mindy]

But I would say. I would say there has been a change, kind of in that department as well, but more so. It's just like being overly nice. Like, hey, can I help you out with anything? You know, just offering. Offering to do a lot to make my life easier.

[Jeff]

Because I would be worried if he was starting to take you out of the loop of doing your job. He may have just had some sort of weird epiphany where he's not nice enough to you, and he's like, I gotta start treating her better, because, boy, does she really make my life easier. Or is he a married guy? Single guy?

[Mindy]

No, he's married.

[Melissa]

Well, also, the. The other employee that got fired when he was nice to her, what did she do? What do you mean?

[Mindy]

What did she do?

[Melissa]

Like, her job title? Like. Yes.

[Suzanne]

For.

[Melissa]

Because I'm curious if you're all in the same type of position or does she work another part of the company?

[Caller/Listener]

No, she.

[Mindy]

She had my job before I got there. I was working in. In. In the office in a different position.

[Melissa]

So he fired her. So he fired her as his assistant this way. Then you got the job, and now he's treating you this way.

[Wendy]

Well, is there any reason for him to fire you? Have you done anything? Because then I can't figure out a reason why he would fire you.

[Mindy]

I mean, I don't think so. I haven't really been with the company for very long, and. I know. I mean, I'm worried just in general, because of the fact that, number one, you know, I don't have that seniority. Number two, because I've seen this happen before. But, you know, but I do. I do believe I am very good at my job. And I do believe that I'm valuable to the company. So it scares me, you know. But you can understand my concern being that, you know, I saw this happen.

[Melissa]

Well, absolutely. And now nowadays, with budget. I mean, budget cuts and companies not doing as well as they try to show that they're doing, there's a lot of people losing their job, you know.

[Jeff]

Hey, Elizabeth has some advice for you. Good morning. Elizabeth. Hang on one second.

[Caller/Listener]

I was gonna say you should just go into work and go in there and be like, the past few weeks

[Mindy]

have been so great.

[Caller/Listener]

I've had such a great time working for you. Maybe even say I was.

[Mindy]

Things were getting bad, and you've just really changed that. So he'll feel too Bad to fire you.

[Melissa]

So kill him with kindness, too.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes.

[Jeff]

So set him up with pre guilt. Like, make him guilty before he even let you go.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, I mean, he can't do it

[Melissa]

because I wonder if the reason he's being nice again is that he's having a hard time. Because regardless of how mean a boss you are, it's got to be hard to fire somebody. You know, the.

[Jeff]

Sometimes we overlook the obvious. Hey, Hannah.

[Mindy]

Hey.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey.

[Jeff]

Welcome to the show.

[Caller/Listener]

Thank you. I was going to say that a lot of times it could be that the girl before her, that the boss had liked her or something and approached her for extra office activities and fired her maybe because, you know, she didn't do it. It could be the same thing. He's coming on to her, that he's hitting on her.

[Melissa]

Do you feel that? Do you feel Mindy? Do you feel that vibe?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Mindy]

You know, that's something that I have considered, you know, but the fact that he's married just makes me want to believe that that's not the case,

[Wendy]

you

[Mindy]

know, and I'm single.

[Caller/Listener]

But.

[Mindy]

But it definitely has crossed my mind that that could be it.

[Melissa]

But do you feel that, though? Because, I mean, if I. If you're getting hit on by somebody, you kind of. You can kind of sense it. It's more than just being nice, you know?

[Mindy]

Yeah. I think it's more so just in my mind playing tricks on me, you know, because I'm worried and I'm trying to entertain every option. You know, I don't. I don't think so. I don't think that's the case.

[Melissa]

Okay.

[Mindy]

But I have thought about it. I have thought that might be the case.

[Wendy]

I just don't. I think if you haven't done anything wrong, there's no real reason for concern. I just say do your job and do the best that you can at it and just not worry about it as much as you can.

[Jeff]

Hey, Megan. Welcome to the show.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey.

[Melissa]

Hi.

[Caller/Listener]

I just wanted to say to the caller, you know, you. You've seen a pattern here. I would get in contact with the former secretary and find out exactly what happened, because it sounds to me like this is like the very beginning of I'm being nice to you, and the sexual harassment is about to start. And then, you know, a lot of times in the corporate world, we're left with the choice of, it's my word against theirs, leave the job quietly or, you know, say whatever you want. They're not going to believe you. Like you said, you're new to the job. And, you know, for. For a complete 180, like, that just sounds to me like there's a sex. Like. Like this is the beginning of a sexual harassment suit.

[Melissa]

I don't think at this point. You're hot now and not sexual harassment. Because he brought her coffee.

[Jeff]

Yeah, that seems that,

[Caller/Listener]

you know, it's just the 180 of behavior. It's not just that he's bringing her coffee. He. She said that, you know, he's like, asking her, is there anything I can help you with? Is there anything I can do to help you with your job?

[Melissa]

How is the.

[Jeff]

Yeah, that seems very extreme, don't you think?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, Yeah, I really think that that's the way it starts.

[Melissa]

Sexual harassment's more like if you, you know, do this, and then I'll get you this.

[Jeff]

Right.

[Melissa]

You know, like, in a sexual way.

[Jeff]

You know what? I'm not gonna harass any of you, so. Not even gonna.

[Melissa]

But you're not my boss.

[Jeff]

Not even gonna ask if any of you need help ever.

[Melissa]

Mindy, you're not the boss of me. How long have you been working for this guy?

[Caller/Listener]

Not long.

[Mindy]

Only about. Gosh, I guess about a year and a half. Maybe two years at most.

[Melissa]

That's a while. Well, I mean, yeah, I think Wendy's right. I mean, there's nothing you can do about it right now. But, you know, I do think that if it does go into a case of where it gets inappropriate, like listeners, you know, some listeners think it may be going. Do the best you can to get things in writing. I always think that if you can get it in writing so that somebody else can see it, then you have a better case than a he said, she said kind of thing.

[Jeff]

Hey, Ashley. You'll be our very last phone call.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes, I actually had the same thing happen to me. I worked at a pretty big company with. In Atlanta here, and my boss was, like, really, really nice, and I did end up getting fired.

[Melissa]

Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

Turned out the reason why he was so nice is waste. He was about to get fired.

[Melissa]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

So it was just a down.

[Caller/Listener]

It might be because he's trying to make himself look better. So, you know, yes, you do need to be wary, because when they do change like that, that means that something is on them. That means they have a problem with whatever it is that's going on with them. And I do agree with previous caller that said, you need to go above him, because I probably wouldn't have lost my job had I gone above him.

[Melissa]

What do you mean, go above him?

[Caller/Listener]

I'll go to his supervisor and ask, okay, look, this is. I'm feeling a little uncomfortable because you are feeling uncomfortable. And you should say this is not his normal behavior. Is there something I should be aware of? Because you don't feel comfortable enough to talk to him about it. You definitely need to talk to someone, and that's just the next person above him.

[Melissa]

I always disagree with going to the boss. If you have not said anything to him, don't go to his boss.

[Jeff]

Because if nothing is wrong.

[Melissa]

Yeah. I mean, yeah, because I just think that that's. And I would if I was the. If I let's. For instance, I'm Jeff's boss.

[Jeff]

What's up?

[Melissa]

And Jeff is Wendy's boss. So Wendy comes to me about something with Jeff, and she's not said anything to Jeff. The red flag on me is on Wendy. You know what I mean?

[Jeff]

And then you'll bring it to me, and then it just gets weird.

[Melissa]

Then you get five for sure.

[Mindy]

I feel like it's a little bit unprofessional to do that.

[Suzanne]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Well, we're going to check in with you in a few days and find out if you're still employed.

[Mindy]

Okay, great.

[Melissa]

Good luck. If it does get inappropriate writing, get it in writing.

[Mindy]

Okay, great. Thank you guys so much.

[Jeff]

We'll talk to you in a few days. Hey, the bird show.