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Carl
Are you really buying a car online on Autotrader right now?
Melissa
Really?
Carl
At a playground?
Melissa
Yeah, really. Look at these listings from dealers. Wow.
Carl
Your search can really get that specific.
Melissa
Really?
Carl
And you just put in your info and boom. Cars in your budget.
Bert
Mom needs a second. Honey, you can really have it delivered.
Melissa
Really? Or I can pick it up at the dealership. One sec, sweetie.
Bert
Mommy's buying a car.
Carl
Mommy, look. I think kid is walking up the slide.
Melissa
Kyle again?
Carl
Really?
Melissa
Auto trader. Buy your car online? Really?
Bert
The Bird show yesterday, me and Lyndall and producer Sean were all sitting in the studio. Carl, hang out for this one here. And they were saying yesterday how impressed they were with Jen Hobby for coming strong to Sean William Scott.
Carl
Okay.
Bert
How she has all this game and stuff.
Melissa
Asking him out.
Bert
Asking him out.
Melissa
Okay.
Bert
And not to put you down or anything. And I said, you know what? Game is relative. Like Sean Williams, Scott has seen Jen Hobby before. And he even said yesterday, thought she was hot. Thought she was a. Remembered her and remembered her. Yes. So game is relative. She didn't. When you're hot, you don't need to have game. You just need to be hot or. And that's it.
Melissa
I don't necessarily agree.
Bert
I'm gonna try to explain this to you from a guy's standpoint here, Carl. So we went on to.
Lindell
Because the girls are woman first.
Melissa
Like, Jeff is out. Carl, I need.
Bert
Carl, I need some testosterone.
Melissa
Jeff is out today.
Bert
If I am the symbol of testosterone in the studio today, we're in trouble.
Lindell
Got your back, bro.
Bert
So a woman really doesn't need to have any game at all. At least at first. All you gotta do is say hi, and that's it. If you're hot, that's all a guy needs to hear.
Lindell
We just want you to speak to us. That's it.
Carl
That's it.
Bert
You don't need game. So the conversation sort of evolved and. And Lindell said that her boyfriend had once told her that hot will get you through the first date, but that's about it. And I stopped Lindell and I said, I don't necessarily agree. With that. Either that a guy will stay in a relationship with somebody that is hot and somebody that is good in important areas before state 30.
Carl
Yes.
Bert
If you know what I'm talking about. Yes. Way longer than you think he can.
Lindell
Way longer.
Bert
And this is what I want to ask guys this morning to prove my point. How long have you stayed in a relationship with a woman that you weren't mentally into at all? In fact, she bugged you. You wanted. You wanted out of the relationship. You were sort of just waiting to get out of the relationship, but she was so hot. And that part of the relationship, wink, wink. You know what I'm talking about, Was so good that you stayed. You stayed way longer than you thought you were going to. Are we talking about days? Are we talking about weeks? Or are we talking about, in my case with Chandra, an entire year? Wow. One year. We will stay in those relationships or until the.
Lindell
The woman actually tells you to leave. Like, all right, you're getting on my nerves. I'm hanging around.
Melissa
See, I don't think that women would have the staying power, because there are, you know, I mean, there are certainly guys that are hot enough that you could date for a while and be like, just shh. Don't talk.
Bert
Right?
Melissa
Just shh. Sit right there and just look good. Just don't talk. But I think that women could only do that for maybe a month.
Carl
Unless he's rich. Unless he's rich. Oh, women will stay if he's rich.
Bert
Well, that's true, you guys. I mean, we've talked about this switch that you all have.
Melissa
Young women will be able to do
Bert
that that you guys have that guys don't have, because maybe this does go both ways. Now, I think about it. I think you're right, that that gear that y' all have to be with Hugh Hefner, that you're not attracted to in any way, shape, or form, but the dude is worth a billion dollars. So you will, just, when the lights are off, do what you got to do just to get to that cash.
Lindell
I didn't know that y' all had that in you.
Bert
Women have it in them.
Carl
Yeah, women for sure.
Bert
Look at all these dudes walking around town that are all.
Carl
Look how ugly some of the men are out there that women are with. It's not. It's not because.
Lindell
But women are so emotional. They just seem to fall in love with the guy. So sweet.
Melissa
When a guy makes a girl comfortable, it doesn't matter.
Bert
It's all Texas exact.
Carl
That's what we tell you to make you destroy your ego.
Bert
But today, Today I want to. Today I want to educate the women. Like this. This does go both ways, because guys will stay in a relationship and they are so annoyed by you, they don't like you anymore. But you're so hot. And that part of the relationship is so good, we're gonna stick around longer than you think we can. Hey, Nick. Good Morning. You're on Q100.
Caller Male 1
Hey, how's it going?
Bert
Good, how are you?
Caller Male 1
Good.
Caller Female 1
Yeah.
Caller Male 1
Four months.
Bert
Four months. She started driving you crazy. How long into that? Four months?
Caller Male 1
Weeks.
Bert
Couple weeks. Two or three weeks.
Caller Male 1
She was so hot. And my friends just adored me for just having that.
Carl
That's where the.
Caller Male 1
I let her walk all over me for four months.
Carl
That's when he. Because I thought that when Bert said about him, you know, her being hot
Melissa
or whatever, I thought.
Carl
Because it's bragging rights for the guy,
Melissa
and the women know it, too. There's a Beyonce song called Upgrade you. She's like, let me upgrade you.
Bert
Right?
Caller Female 1
Yeah.
Melissa
Women know it.
Bert
Women know that guys are bugged by you, but they're keeping you around just because you're hot.
Melissa
Well, women will. They'll know if they are upgrading their guy.
Lindell
Right. You all make us look better.
Bert
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Lindell
If it's a trophy type of woman,
Melissa
you're like the upgrade for the dude, for the bad looking dude. Right. Like, I know all your friends are going, how in the hell did you score that?
Bert
Yeah, I know. My friends are still saying that about my wife.
Melissa
Right.
Lindell
That's another few more years right there.
Melissa
They're saying that about Stacy and Jessica for years.
Bert
I've been doing it for 11 years. Good morning, Lauren. You're on Q100.
Caller Female 2
Yes. I've actually been with mine for seven months now.
Carl
Seven months now.
Bert
This is from a woman. And you're not attracted to him at all?
Caller Female 2
No, I am very attracted, but he's just so dumb. I mean, everything is great. It's just there's these times when I'm like, why am I with him?
Caller Female 1
Why?
Caller Female 2
And really, the only reason is because he is.
Caller Male 2
Yeah.
Bert
You think that's good? Guys, can we. They can crush you.
Lindell
Oh, yeah.
Bert
Scott, good morning.
Caller Male 1
Yeah, good morning.
Bert
Hey, how long are we talking about here?
Caller Male 1
Three and a half years.
Bert
And you started to get annoyed by her? How long into the relationship?
Caller Male 1
I'm gonna say two to three months into it.
Melissa
How can you stay with her?
Bert
I don't get it.
Caller Male 1
She was a freak.
Caller Female 1
And she was freaky.
Melissa
Dicky guys are weird.
Bert
That is a combination. Freaky, freaky hot will keep us around
Melissa
for a long time.
Lindell
That's all we need. That's all we want.
Melissa
Melissa, do you think I can say what I wrote?
Carl
Yeah, you can.
Bert
What I want to know.
Melissa
I have a couple girlfriends who would say girls can stick around for size too.
Bert
Oh, really?
Lindell
Yeah. I've heard women talk about, like, things like that.
Melissa
True story. Like, I should have left a while
Bert
ago, but he was so.
Melissa
A couple marriages that made the relationship last a little bit longer.
Carl
Take a picture and put it in a frame. There he is.
Bert
Isn't the difference here, though, between women and men, especially in the case that you just said, like, you don't have to be with that guy to keep going back to that where a guy, I think, feels like we gotta hold on to it because she's not gonna keep giving us that one area that we really dig a lot.
Melissa
I don't know.
Lindell
We never wanna give ours up, though. You know, you're mine. Like, if. If I were with you, you're gonna be mine to the next at least few years till I get another one in my mind.
Bert
And you're looking for a better combination.
Lindell
Exactly.
Bert
Of hot and freaky.
Lindell
Freaky.
Bert
And sometimes it takes you four years to get there. Good morning, Mike, here on Q100I.
Caller Male 2
Hey, good morning, guys.
Bert
Go ahead. What's happening, man?
Caller Male 2
Hey, man. Four and a half years.
Bert
Four and a half years.
Carl
That's how they say it. He sounds miserable.
Bert
Miserable.
Caller Male 2
It was awesome times, but at the end, it wasn't. It wasn't true.
Bert
And I'll tell you what. You're in that relationship and it's so bad. You feel. You feel like you're in jail. It's. It's like Shishank, and you can't get out. You're in Shishank and you're looking for a way out. But she's so hot and she's so freaky deaky. The warden won't let you out.
Caller Male 2
I mean, you got to stick around. Like I always say, bragging rights. And definitely the extras that came along with it. Definitely worth it. I gotta find some truth.
Carl
I'm sure women would want to know now what it. What makes. Like, what's the difference in the women that you propose to?
Caller Male 2
The biggest difference actually has to be no looks. Like, not. Not so much the looks and not so much the extras, but just the time and the connection between the two. You know, the time that y' all have. And y' all really have to have some kind of chemistry. For that to work. But there's no way that. There's no way that I feel that anybody could get together with somebody just because of looks and just because of the extras and be in a relationship for, you know, 50 years.
Bert
Now, how long Did I gotta ask you the same question? Cause you said this was, what, four and a half years? How long into the relationship she starts just annoying you to no end?
Caller Male 2
It was definitely within the first six months. It definitely ain't no way.
Bert
First six months.
Melissa
Can you just not go out and find another hot chick?
Bert
Sometimes they're so hot and so freaky, you just think, you know what? I'm gonna ride. I can't do any better right now.
Melissa
Another one. There's one. There's gotta be another one.
Lindell
You know what? I've heard guys talk like that. Something that's gauged, that gauges them to ask the woman to marry them is how long it takes for them to irk the nerves. Like a partner of mine, it took.
Carl
He's.
Lindell
He's mentioned that it's taken his girl, his wife, now about two years into the relationship before he was really irked, he knew she was the one. As opposed to two months.
Melissa
Marry that one.
Carl
She gets on my nerves now, but it's been two years, so. Here's the ring, baby.
Bert
All right. Women want in on this also. Go ahead, Amy. You're on the voice disguiser.
Caller Female 1
Okay, this is awful, but I've been married for 14 years. About a year after we got married. Oh, God, I could have cut this guy loose. But he is hot, he makes good money, and he's really good in bed.
Bert
And you're how many years in the relationship?
Caller Female 1
14.
Carl
14.
Melissa
Well, see, I think there's something right there. If you still think he's hot and you still think he's good in the bedroom after 14 years.
Caller Female 1
I mean, that's the thing. We work opposite schedules, so we don't really see each other a lot, but when we do see each other a
Bert
lot, it's really hard.
Carl
That's probably why y' all are still good. Yeah.
Melissa
You don't have to have conversations.
Bert
Just take it off.
Caller Female 1
We don't need a lot of conversation. We don't have a lot of time for conversation. But, oh, my God, he drives me crazy sometimes.
Bert
Meg, you're on Q100. Good morning.
Caller Female 1
Hello.
Bert
Yeah, go ahead.
Caller Female 2
Oh, I was just going to tell Jim. She's so right. Because my friends have a saying. Once you go big, you never go back.
Bert
Wow.
Melissa
My friends have another saying, but we
Bert
can't say it on the air. The thing is with women, though, you guys can. You don't need to be in the relationship. If he's getting that, you can come back as much as you want.
Caller Female 2
Exactly. Just keep them around.
Bert
That's all it takes.
Lindell
We don't care.
Bert
I just wanted that education to happen for women. You heard a guy say he was in a relationship with a woman for four and a half years, but she was so hot and so freaky, he was annoyed after six months. But he didn't go anywhere.
Lindell
And if you cannot irritate that dude for at least two years, you might have a ring on your finger.
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Select homes only. All right, Emily needs some help here. Good morning, Emily.
Caller Female 1
Hi there. How are you?
Bert
Good. You're on the voice disguiser.
Caller Female 1
Fantastic.
Bert
How are you today?
Caller Female 1
I'm great.
Bert
What's up?
Caller Female 1
So the reason that I was calling in was because I gave birth to my first baby about six months ago. And since then, congrat, by the way.
Carl
Absolutely. Congratulations.
Caller Female 1
Thank you very much. But since then, my husband has not wanted to have sex. And actually it's been a little bit longer than that. It's been about nine to 10 months since the second trimester, really, of the pregnancy. So I was calling to find out if you might be able to help me out as to why, you know, why that's the case. He told me that he's just, you know, we have a new baby he's been very tired, and neither of us have really, really wanted to have sex. You know what? Towards the end of the pregnancy, when I was very big and uncomfortable. But now that. Now that the baby's here, he just, he's, you know, he's been saying, I'm really tired. Things will change after a while, you know, and it's just been a lot of excuses. And I. I was talking to a coworker recently who. Who asked me if he. If my husband watched the birth of the baby. And I told her that he had. And she said, well, you know, for some guys, that just will completely turn them off. So my question is, I'm wondering if he's traumatized by that and if, you know, I mean, it's kind of awful to say, but if that's the case, then I don't know what I can do to sort of take that back. I don't really know what can be done if that's the case.
Bert
404-741-Q100. Well, I can answer. I can speak to two of those things.
Caller Female 1
Okay.
Bert
When my wife was pregnant with our kids, also, those last couple of months, there just. Yeah. She didn't want me to touch her. And I. I know a lot of guys really dig the pregnancy intimacy thing. And I just. If I have to be totally honest with you, I wouldn't really into it. She wouldn't.
Melissa
Was just uncomfortable by it.
Bert
Yeah, it was freaking me out.
Melissa
Like there was a baby in there.
Bert
Yeah.
Melissa
Yeah.
Bert
The angles are odd.
Melissa
Yeah.
Bert
I'm not good at it to begin with, and that was the advanced course.
Caller Female 1
It can be very painful.
Bert
So. Yeah, we just. Yeah, we sort of gave up on the whole thing towards the end of it. And I watched the delivery of our baby also, and it didn't have an effect on me at all. I was fascinated by the whole thing. And once both of them were born, I was ready to go. But I can tell you that one of my best friends in California was going through the same thing you are, is they talked about it over and over and over again. And his wife said, look, I know this kind of thing freaks you out. Look, you can't even watch House, you know, you can't even watch Grey's Anatomy. So go ahead, be in the delivery room. Just don't look.
Melissa
Stand up by her head.
Bert
Stand by her head. Yeah. There's plenty of ways you can avoid it if you want to. Right. So he gets into the delivery room and he starts to get all curious, and he goes down there in the catcher stance right there with the doctor, and he watches the whole thing happen. And for about six months after that, when they had the baby, he was the same way. He couldn't shake the image out of his head. And that part for him just became anything but sexual. And he couldn't shake it. He just couldn't shake it.
Melissa
For how long?
Bert
It was about six months also.
Caller Female 1
But he.
Bert
Eventually, you have to suck it up. There's only one thing, you know, you just gotta get back on the horse. Right.
Caller Female 1
Have you heard any statistics that say this will change after, you know, this initial period?
Bert
I haven't. I don't know. I don't know. Good morning, Ashley. You're on Q100.
Caller Female 2
Hey, how are y'?
Bert
All? Good. How are you?
Caller Female 1
Good.
Caller Female 2
I got advice for the caller. My daughter is 9 now, but I went through the same thing when she was born. I gained a lot of weight through the pregnancy, and we didn't have, you know, relations after, you know, before the baby was born, and we sure definitely didn't have them afterwards. And I asked him, I said, you know, what's the deal? Why haven't we, you know? And he said, because all he kept doing was visualizing it. And it was really, really hard because, you know, even though relationship is not based on that, it helps, you know, you have to have those intimate times together. And I think that she really needs to talk to her husband because even though my. My labor was pretty bad, you know, there could be other reasons why. And I think that she, you know, needs to open up to her husband and ask him why.
Bert
Yeah. So many things happen in that delivery room that can really jack you up.
Caller Female 1
I mean, you know, and that's the thing. And I've been playing it through in my mind, you know, thinking, gosh, was it this? Was that?
Melissa
But he's your husband. You should be able to talk to him about this.
Bert
Absolutely. You guys got to talk about it for sure.
Caller Female 1
Do you think it's time for that?
Bert
Yeah, Scott, it's better to talk to him than us. Hey, Scott. Good Morning. You're on Q100. Hi.
Caller Male 1
Yeah, hey. My wife and I had a baby just about 13 months ago and went through exactly what you went through as well. Be patient. He saw things he shouldn't have seen die. It's gonna take a little while. He's traumatized. It'll be all right, I promise.
Melissa
Can you tell us why it's so traumatizing or maybe help us get into the male mentality a little bit more?
Caller Female 1
Okay.
Caller Male 1
It was all okay. When I was patting her on the head, telling her everything was going to be alright and everything. And then when the wet nurse said, oh, come down here and look, and I went down and saw things I had never even considered seeing before. It stuck in my head for a long time. So be patient with him. He'll come around and everything will be
Caller Female 1
all right, I promise.
Bert
I mean, up until that point. And to be totally honest with you, also the woman's breasts, that area down there. And the breasts are sexual for guys, right? They are sexual indeed, indeed. So to see it in a way that we haven't seen it before, like that.
Melissa
Functional.
Bert
Functional. And yeah, there for what it's supposed to be there for. It's a little bit tough to shake some of those images.
Melissa
Is it the head crowning, the baby head crowning?
Bert
There's a little head in there.
Carl
There's a lot of.
Bert
There's a lot of stuff going on. Did you.
Melissa
But don't you watch videos and go to Lamaze classes and stuff like that where you see that before your actual wife?
Bert
It's so different. I mean, it's the difference between watching a football game and being in the football game.
Carl
Well, I was grossed out in health class, I mean, by the whole. Did you see any high school stuff that's gross. You know, it's magical and it's wonderful, but it's gross.
Melissa
I'm not attracted to it anyway. So to me, it's like all biology. You know what I mean? It's all a biology class. It's not like a. The same thing the way that you guys see it.
Bert
I'll tell you the funny thing that happened with Stacy and I is when Hayden was born, I was fascinated by it. And I was the same as my friend in California. Like, maybe I'll watch, maybe I won't. And then I got down there and I'm like, wow, look at all of this going on down here. And I was like a little kid, you know, and I'm like, stacy. Cause at that point we thought we were only gonna have Hayden. I said, look, you've gotta check out what's going on down here. Cause we're only doing Hayden here, so you gotta at least take a look at it. So she was reluctant. She's like, I don't wanna see it. I don't. Please don't. I'm like, no, you gotta see this. This is coming outta your body. So she's like, all right. So over at Northside, they have these rolling windows that you can bring Right over. And you can angle it. The mirrors. Yeah. So the woman can see what's going on. She took one look at it, and she's like, get that thing out of my face. I hated it.
Melissa
I'm trying.
Carl
This is a new. A new thing. Like you. I'm trying to figure out when they allowed the husbands or boyfriends to come into the delivery room, because they didn't used to do that. You see old school shows. They were in the waiting room with the cigars, waiting for the nurse to
Bert
come out and go, it's a boy.
Carl
I'm curious how. I mean, it's only been, you know, in one generation that this has been allowed. So it's good that we're talking about.
Bert
It's a crazy rule. Hey, Miranda, Good Morning. You're on Q100. Hi.
Caller Female 1
Hi.
Caller Female 2
Good morning. I had a baby at the end of July, and my husband had the same thought process. A lot of his friends had told him, don't look, don't look. You'll be really grossed out. And when we got in there, kind of the same situation, you know, as Bert, you want to look. I mean, it's a beautiful thing. Your baby's being brought into the world. And, I mean, we had no problems at all. My advice to the caller is just to, I mean, talk to your husband. There's probably another reason. It's probably the fact that you guys have a baby and he's probably overwhelmed with being the new dad. I mean, there's probably a lot of things other than the fact that it's just, you know, he has these images in his head because, you know, that in itself is probably not the reason why.
Bert
And he's got nobody to talk to about this, really. I mean, most guys are pretty closed when it comes to talking about anything that they're insecure about or emotions. You go to another guy and you tell him that I'm not having sex with my wife and it's because of me. A lot of guys can't do that. So the only person he has to talk to is you.
Caller Female 1
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
Carl
But the good thing is everybody that's called Bert's friend, the guys that have called that said, if that is the issue, they get over it, you know? So it's not like this is going to be a permanent thing.
Bert
Yeah, guys can really work around almost anything in order to get sex, just so you know. So it'll take some time, but eventually he'll be like, it'll go away. Yeah. Well, the thing that I'm hearing, like Melissa said, the common theme with everybody here is it does go away. You know, that he's going to get over this. But I think probably sitting him down in a very sort of like, nurturing way and talking with them about it to where he's feeling comfortable, I think is the only way to go.
Caller Female 1
Great. Yeah, that needs to happen.
Melissa
And maybe a trip to Victoria's Secret.
Bert
That's always good. Who cares about the economy? You can spend whatever you want at Victoria's Secret. All right, Good luck. All right.
Carl
Congratulations again on your children.
Caller Female 1
Thanks, guys. Take care.
Bert
Let me give guys this advice also. If it's the weight issue that you're having with your wife when she's pregnant and that's turning you off, you better take that to the damn grave with you. You better never share that. Never, never, never. You may be tempted to tell her in a kind, nurturing way, don't do it.
Carl
No, never do that. And I think it's sad that guys, like. It's like they can't adapt to the image they think is a. Is perfect woman. You know what I mean? So I think it's also sad that guys have that or some guys.
Bert
Some guys do. And it's. If that's you we're speaking to, there's nothing you can do about that because that's how you're built. But you better take. Take that to the grave. There is no. What did you say? Gentle and nurturing. No.
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Melissa
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Bert
You think you'll say, you know what? I can, I can kindly and peacefully tell her this. Don't believe women when they say they want 100% honesty. That is a lie right there. Yeah, you can lie there.
Melissa
Yeah, we want you to lie about our bodies and say that they're great.
Bert
Lie, gentlemen. Lie. The bird show.
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Podcast: The Bert Show
Date: March 6, 2026
Episode Focus: Relationships, Attraction, and Postpartum Intimacy
Main Cast: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, Lindell, Carl, Melissa
This episode of The Bert Show dives deep into the complexities of romantic relationships—specifically focusing on why people stay in relationships with partners they may no longer like but still find attractive or sexually satisfying. The hosts and callers discuss the gender differences in enduring unsatisfying relationships for physical reasons, the bragging rights that come from dating someone conventionally "hot," and how this dynamic plays out differently for men and women. In the latter half, the conversation pivots to intimacy in marriage after childbirth, exploring the effects of witnessing childbirth on sexual desire and discussing open communication between partners.
[01:00-10:12]
[13:13–24:15]
This candid, humor-laden episode of The Bert Show offers a no-holds-barred look at why people stay in unfulfilling relationships—be it for looks, sex, status, or money—and how these decisions differ by gender. It also explores the rarely discussed reality of lost sexual desire after childbirth, advocating for honest spousal communication, patience, and, sometimes, strategic white lies. As always, the Bert Show keeps it real and relatable, with plenty of zingers and genuine listener stories.