Full Show PT 2: Friday, October 31 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show – Full Show PT 2: Friday, October 31 [Vault]

Original Air Date: October 31, 2025
Host: Bert & The Bert Show Cast (Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy & more)
Notable Guests: Jay Z, Mariah Carey

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Episode Overview

This episode weaves together the Bert Show's signature mix of offbeat real-life drama, celebrity interviews, and candid conversations. The highlights include two very raw "second date update" segments in which callers dissect their failed dating experiences on-air; an in-studio appearance by Jay Z reflecting on his career, fame, and origins; and an open, vulnerable chat with Mariah Carey about navigating celebrity and misconceptions. The cast maintains their playful, authentic energy throughout, bringing listeners laughter, perspective, and a front-row seat to moments both awkward and moving.

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Key Segments and Timelines

1. Real-Life Dating Drama: “Second Date Update”

[02:15–08:18]

Denise and Matt: Awkward Honesty & Racial Dynamics

• Background: Denise wants to know why her date, Matt, hasn't called her back—though she admits she wasn’t really into him either.
• Matt’s Admission: Matt reveals he’d never dated a black woman before, was “experimenting,” and after the date, decided he “just didn’t like it”.
  • Matt: “I have never been out with a black chick before, and I tried it, and I just didn’t like it. ...It’s not that I’m racist or anything.” (04:11)
• Denise’s Pushback: Denise calls Matt out for treating her as an experiment and suggests he’s afraid to admit he maybe enjoyed it.
• Bert (Host): Pushes Matt to articulate what, exactly, felt so different—Matt can’t answer meaningfully, eventually defaulting to “maybe [Denise] is just a little too aggressive” (06:22).
• Exchange ends: Both agree the date was “far from terrific” and bid each other a curt “how do you do” (08:11).

Notable Moment:

• This segment is a frank, uncomfortable exploration of race, dating, and honesty, with the cast not shying away from calling out problematic attitudes.

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2. Interview: Jay Z in the Q100 Studio

[08:18–18:23]

Growing Up in Marcy Projects & Making It Big

• Jay Z’s reflections on Atlanta and his upbringing:
  • "I'm from Marcy Projects. Brooklyn, New York is like, the hood of the hood." (09:33)
  • Describes living in cramped conditions: “It’s like a box. ...So many people on top of each other.” (10:30)
  • Returns to Marcy for a “60 Minutes” piece—now sees his name planted in grass there (11:01).

Success, Fame, and Surreal Moments

• Celebrity Life: Shares about roller skating parties, eating at Waffle House with Beyoncé, and adjusting to the surrealism of fame.
• Vacations & Networking: Describes a lavish holiday with celebrity encounters.
  • “I went to south of France. ...I met Bono over in London. Him and Quincy Jones, they called my room, told me, come downstairs, have drinks.” (12:36)
  • “For the next two weeks, [Bono] was like my concierge service. ...Every day I woke up in a new place.” (13:48)
  • Vivid depiction of extravagant yacht parties and how different “money” looks at certain levels: “Their money is different. ...Boats, 300 foot yachts, homie.” (14:49)

Artistry and Career

• On retiring: The ‘Black Album’ will be his last. “I just want it to be no artwork, just an album. ...If you hear some samba on there, some calypso...anything I want to do, I’m going to just do it.” (11:56)
• On staying motivated: Jay Z’s friends offer tough love; he cites a friend who called “Hard Knock Life” the worst song ever (17:49).
• On recognition as greatest rapper: “I think all rappers believe they the greatest rapper. We arrogant...you need an edge, you know?” (16:10)
• Collaborators on latest album include Lenny Kravitz (17:37).

Notable Quotes:

• “I stayed up the first night I got the boat...drinking wine, like, what am I doing here?” (15:09)
• “You just start to see different levels. Like their money is different...Boats, 300 foot yachts, homie.” (14:49)

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3. Second Date Update: Lindsay and KB

[20:49–24:21]

Bar-Hopping to Ghosting

• Story: Lindsay describes a great date with KB, followed by silence for two weeks.
• Confrontation on Air: When asked why he didn’t call back, KB suddenly insults Lindsay, saying, “It would sure be a hell of a lot easier for a girl to get another date if Lindsay wasn’t such a slut.” (22:16)
• The Cast Reacts: The group is shocked; Lindsay denies any wrongdoing—“I have no idea what he means.”
• KB backpedals: Refuses to elaborate.
• Resolution: The show and Lindsay agree KB is “a total idiot,” and praise Lindsay for seeking better (23:58).

Notable Moment:

• This segment highlights the risks of public shaming and the double standard in dating expectations, while offering support to the wronged party.

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4. Celebrity Interview: Mariah Carey

[24:23–36:26]

Life as Mariah: Fame, Privacy, and Self-Care

• Arrival & Self-Awareness: Mariah jokes about needing sunglasses due to little sleep: “I’m trying not to be rude and not have ‘em on, but then it’s like the light. I’m like a night creature.” (24:47)
• Daily Life: Shares loving to swim, efforts to sneak in downtime with minimal entourage, and how even quiet moments attract fans: “First person I walk onto the beach, [says] ‘Hey, Mariah, right? Our son's over there. He's in eighth grade. Can he come swim with you?’” (26:16)
• Difficulty Saying No: Admits to always being a “crowd pleaser” and feeling pressure to be accommodating (26:47).
• Always In The Spotlight: Describes the constant cameras, how every action feels amplified, and the need to always be “on,” even during downtime (27:25).

Navigating the Media and Misconceptions

• On being misrepresented: Expresses that even reputable papers published untruths:
  • “I would be reading stuff in credible papers and go…‘This is actually completely fabricated. ...My friends would be there with me, like, ‘You and me were together. This did not occur.’” (31:28)
• On September 11th’s impact in New York: “People became very friendly, like, almost like, ‘Whoa, you know, we are all in this together.’” (29:50)
• On breakdown rumors: “Don’t believe this. Suicide attempts and blah, blah, blah. I’m just not that type of person. ...No matter what, I always go to the positive.” (35:15)

Authenticity and Music as Salvation

• Discusses New Single “Through The Rain”: Written to inspire others and herself, affirming she’s always offered hopeful messages in music.
  • “The point of the song ‘Through the Rain’ is you can make it no matter what happens, if you have faith and truly believe that you can.” (36:16)
• On Living in New York: Reflects on changes post-9/11, her custom-designed apartment, and the pain of losing the Twin Towers from her view (29:15).

Closing Thoughts:

• On misconceptions: “Even we could have this talk and you could be like, ‘Yeah, she was alright.’ …Until you know somebody for a long time, you don’t really know them. ...I’m just grateful I get to sing and write songs and make music.” (34:33)

Memorable Mariah Moments:

• “I let my license expire. ...People in general are better off with me not behind the wheel.” (27:55)
• On tabloids: “You get a lot better ratings saying, ‘Mariah Carey had her 93rd breakdown today…’ than you do saying, ‘Oh, we heard Mariah was out with her friends, smiling and having a nice day.” (30:34)
• “Would you like to inspect my wrist? You can take a magnifying glass. ...You can look back at any of my music and...it’s like, be hopeful, get through it, have faith. That’s what I’m about.” (35:36)

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Notable Quotes

• Jay Z: “I think all rappers believe they the greatest rapper. We arrogant...as far as recording. Like, you know, in real life, I'm just a cool, regular person, but when I'm recording...you need an edge, you know?” (16:10)
• Mariah Carey: “You get better ratings saying, ‘Mariah Carey had her 93rd breakdown today...’ than ...‘Mariah was out with her friends, smiling...’” (30:34)
• Bert (on dating honesty): “This is why guys are so confused, right? Here you say you want total honesty, right?” (03:03)
• Denise: “I think you were more afraid that you did like it.” (05:24)

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Episode Mood and Takeaways

The Bert Show’s signature warmth, candor, and sometimes-uncomfortable directness set the tone. The chats with Jay Z and Mariah Carey bring depth and humor, touching on the realities and absurdities of massive fame. The dating segments spark real discussion about race, gender, and expectations, with the hosts holding participants (and each other) accountable. Listeners walk away both entertained and challenged to think about authenticity—in relationships, in art, and in public life.

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For fans of candid radio, pop culture, and celebrity insight, this episode is a prime example of how The Bert Show’s “real and funny” approach draws out the stories behind the headlines—and the lives behind the microphones.

Transcript

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[Bert]

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[Bert]

The Birch show in this second date update, she didn't even want to go out with this guy on a second date. But her ego gets in the way and she had to find out why he hasn't called for a second date. Hey, Denise.

[Lindsay]

Hey, what's up?

[Bert]

What's going on with you?

[Lindsay]

Well, you know, last Saturday I had a date. You know, we went to the clubhouse. It was nice, okay? And we kind of went to the mall and we did a few bars. We started talking, you know, it wasn't like the worst date I ever had, you know, but it was nice. Now I haven't even heard from this guy.

[Bert]

You know what this sounds like? You went on a date and it wasn't really good at all, but this guy hasn't called you for a follow up date, so you're feeling like, wait a second.

[Lindsay]

I did everything right.

[Bert]

If anybody's blowing anybody off, he said, I did everything right, I should be blowing him off. So you don't even. You don't even really want a second date with this guy, do you?

[Lindsay]

That's really the truth.

[Bert]

This is why guys are so confused, right? Here you say you want total honesty, right? Well, here's a guy that can't be honest with you, but at least he's telling you, look, I don't want to go out with you anymore. I'm not calling you back.

[Mariah Carey]

But she's going to overanalyze the situation until she gets some kind of an answer from.

[Lindsay]

I wouldn't mind that if you said, you know, you know, I had a nice time, but I don't think that we're compatible or whatever, you know, why.

[Bert]

Do you need an answer if you're not even interested in going out with this guy again?

[Lindsay]

It's a chick thing.

[Bert]

Okay. Good morning, Matt.

[Lindsay]

Hello.

[Bert]

How are you? This is Bert and Lindsey and Melissa and Jeff and Jen Hobby and the rest of Atlanta in the studios at Q100 this morning.

[Lindsay]

Hey, what's up?

[Bert]

How are you?

[Lindsay]

I'm good, I'm good.

[Bert]

Hey, man, we have Denise on the phone with you. You want to say hi, Denise?

[Lindsay]

Hi, Matt. Oh, hey.

[Bert]

She said you guys went out last Saturday and she had a really great time at the mall, but she can't figure out why there's been no call back and she's a little bit upset that there's been no second date. Right.

[Lindsay]

Denise, the real story Is that I just know what really is going on. You know, for once, I want a guy to be honest. All right. You really want to know? Mm, I really want to know. All right, look, I have never been out with a black chick before, and I tried it, and I just didn't like it. Excuse me? Look, it's not that I'm racist or anything. It's just that, you know, I just have only dated white girls before, and. Yeah, you're the first black woman that I've ever been out with. And I. You know, you're a very, very nice person, but I just. I just wasn't into it. So I was actually an experiment? Well, I mean, experiments, kind of. Oh, so. And you didn't like it? No. I'm sorry.

[Bert]

What's the difference between dating a black woman and a white woman that you didn't like?

[Lindsay]

Exactly. I kind of having trouble putting it into words. I don't know. It's just not that I, you know, I don't like. It's funny that you say that now. It's funny you say that now, but when we were walking in the mall and we were, you know, hanging at the bar, you didn't act as if it was something so different that you were. You didn't know what to do. You made all the same moves you would have made if I was a white girl.

[Jay Z]

Yeah.

[Lindsay]

I mean, but that was part of the whole. You know, it was part of the whole thing. Oh, it was all part of the lie. It wasn't a lie. It was just sort of a. See, because at the end of the day, I wasn't the one that was trying to put my tongue down your throat. It was you. Yeah, I know. Yeah. You know, but at the same time, you know what? I know guys like you, okay? You think you're gonna experiment and find out what the other side is like. Okay, but let me tell you something. I think you were more afraid that you did like it. No, you know what? It was just. You know what? Listen, you were the one that asked for honesty. It was. Excuse me. It just wasn't my thing.

[Bert]

Hey, Matt, does it even matter that this was Denise? Or were you just looking to try and date a black woman for the first time?

[Lindsay]

I don't know. Hard to say. I guess it was a little of both.

[Bert]

I just don't understand what she did as a black woman that turned you off so much. What did she do that a white woman wouldn't have done on a date?

[Lindsay]

I don't know. Maybe. Maybe you're just a little too aggressive.

[Bert]

Maybe that's a Denise thing.

[Lindsay]

What did he say?

[Bert]

Maybe you were too aggressive. Wait a minute.

[Mariah Carey]

Weren't you the one that kissed Denise?

[Lindsay]

That's what I'm trying to say. I think that's garbage. Oh, was that you just wanted to feel what a black woman felt like or tasted like? Wow. Is that why? All the way? Even till the end? Well, I can't lie. You know, you're asking me to be honest here. I can't lie and say yeah, okay, since you're being so honest, I'm gonna be honest, too. I thought you were very tired. Okay, first of all, you're gonna take a grown woman to the mall. Okay, I'm just humoring your butt. You know what? You know what? I don't have to stand for this. Listen, this whole thing is just weird. You're asking me to be honest. I've been honest. You know, I just. The way I see it, you just don't like the truth. You just can't handle it. Because you're not the only one that has patent on honesty. I'll be honest, too. I've been with many white men, okay? And I don't have the same overview that you have. But you in particular, were not a stellar date. Well, what can I say then? That's why I didn't call you back. It wasn't great, so what's the big deal? That's why you didn't call me back? Because it wasn't a stellar date. You didn't call me back because I was a black woman and you decided you didn't like that. Well, you know what? It was. It was there. Both was true. What's. So just. Let's just leave it alone. Wasn't a big deal. You know, we went out, you know, it wasn't terrific. Are you trying to say that it was terrific?

[Bert]

You didn't say it was terrific.

[Lindsay]

No, far from terrific. Let's just, you know, let's say how do you do, and then just move on, you know? How do you do? How do you do? Please, I have no problem moving on. I just wanted to know what he was.

[Bert]

He just became too white for. All right, man. We're just gonna bid you. How do you do right now, bubba.

[Lindsay]

Okay. How do you do?

[Bert]

The Burt Show. This guy has been hailed the newest, greatest rap star in America. It's Jay Z. And he stopped by the Q100 studios to hang out with the Burt show for a little while. Jay Z, good to have you in studio man, thank you.

[Jay Z]

Thank you.

[Bert]

Well, welcome to Atlanta. This is obviously not your first time here.

[Jay Z]

No, I love Atlanta.

[Bert]

Yeah.

[Jay Z]

Been coming in for years.

[Bert]

What is it about Atlanta specifically that you dig so much?

[Jay Z]

Women. Women and more women.

[Bert]

Now, you can't be talking about women, women, women if you got Beyonce on one arm. Now.

[Jay Z]

I'm grown, man.

[Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Jay Z]

Last time, was it.

[Bert]

The last time you were here, you.

[Lindsay]

Were doing the big old roller skating thing for the birthday party or something?

[Jay Z]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I did a couple of things that night. And Waffle House? You come from Waffle House? Waffle House thing is in People magazine.

[Bert]

Yeah.

[Jay Z]

It was a big deal that Jay.

[Lindsay]

Z and Beyonce went to Waffle House. You're not allowed to be normal.

[Bert]

You're a celebrity. You can't go to Waffle House like.

[Lindsay]

Every other drunk person in Atlanta.

[Bert]

Do you find, like, if you weren't the rap star, you know, the way that you have to live your life right now and the way that. I mean, your success has brought you so many new and different and great things that money brings. Do you ever look at it and just go, I just can't believe this is my life. This isn't me.

[Jay Z]

It's amazing, like from where I come from, you know what I'm saying? I'm from Marcy Projects. Brooklyn, New York is like the hood.

[Lindsay]

The hood of the hood.

[Jay Z]

The hood, exactly. The hood of the hood.

[Bert]

What is the one thing, I guess I should ask you where you said, I have got to get away from this. I have got to build a life so I never have to come back here again.

[Jay Z]

So many things. And then when you're in that situation, every day is a test, you know what I'm saying? It's almost like you walking on eggshells. Like, you know, anything can happen at any given time every day. That's too much tension as to for a person to live with their whole life. I mean, it's great days and it's, you know, it's fun out there. And it's, you know, the Johnny Pump open. We call it Johnny Pump, the hydrant when you wet people and jump rope and basket. It's fun days. But overall it's just tough situation because everybody, you, you gotta figure this is how you live. You have a person next to you, on top of you, on the side of you. It's like a box. Like there's so many different personalities that you gotta tend with every day. And everyone's so close that they on top of each other all the time. It's so many. It's six floors and four families on each floor. And it's three buildings that's connected, and those three buildings is about 100 of them. You know what I'm saying? There's so many people on top of each other. When was the last time you were back in your building? I did a 60 Minutes piece, so I was over there, like, maybe two, three weeks ago.

[Lindsay]

So you walk in there and are you just, like, blown away what you have now, what you had then?

[Jay Z]

And, I mean, you gotta. They had my name in, like, the Unsworn planted a garden, and they had my name in the grass. I think that was cool.

[Bert]

Wow. That is really awesome.

[Jay Z]

Yeah.

[Bert]

You're in Atlanta doing the principal for the day thing here today.

[Jay Z]

Yeah. Now I'm somebody's principal. Could you believe that?

[Bert]

Do you ever talk to any of the people that you went to high school with?

[Jay Z]

Yeah, I mean, you know, me and Big and Busta Rhymes went to the same high school.

[Bert]

Oh, is that right? All at the same time?

[Mariah Carey]

Yeah.

[Bert]

Oh, wow.

[Jay Z]

Yeah.

[Bert]

Did you. Were you guys doing music together in high school?

[Jay Z]

Nah, we ain't really. We just was, like, passing friends. Like, you know, we knew each other and we knew each. You know, we all knew that we rapped.

[Mariah Carey]

Mm.

[Jay Z]

But we ain't really know each other like that. How long are you gonna do music for?

[Lindsay]

Like, if you picked a date where.

[Jay Z]

You'Re gonna say, you know what?

[Lindsay]

I made my money.

[Jay Z]

Whenever you hear the Black Album is out, that's. When is the last one. I want to rap it out. That's the name of the last album.

[Bert]

You already know that.

[Jay Z]

The Black Album? Yeah.

[Bert]

You seriously already know that?

[Jay Z]

Yeah.

[Bert]

Why that name?

[Jay Z]

I just, like. I just want it to be no artwork, just an album. Just blank. Like. No, I just want to make music to make it. The last one is going to be just because I wanted to make it. Like, if you hear some Sambo on there, some calypso. Anything I want to do, I'm going to just do it. I wouldn't worry about it.

[Bert]

It's just going to be Jay Z bluegrass, whatever.

[Jay Z]

There you go. That music from. What's that?

[Lindsay]

Mov.

[Bert]

The George Clooney movie.

[Jay Z]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lindsay]

JV rapping over that.

[Bert]

You've put out, like, seven albums since 1999.

[Jay Z]

96.

[Bert]

96.

[Jay Z]

Whoa. 99.

[Bert]

And you're still not burned out.

[Jay Z]

Yeah.

[Bert]

Although I heard you just took your first vacation ever.

[Jay Z]

Yeah, I needed that one, though.

[Lindsay]

Where'd you go?

[Jay Z]

I went to south of France. Matter of fact, I landed in Rome, I took a helicopter to Capri. I stayed in Capri four days. I went to London for Wimbledon. I came back, I met Bono over in London. Him and Quincy Jones, they called my room, told me, come downstairs, have drinks.

[Lindsay]

How does Bono call your room?

[Jay Z]

How does Bono register? Bono, That's Bono. They gonna give him the name? It don't even matter. I don't want that guy. He give him your room. He give him the key to your room.

[Bert]

Anything Bono west, man.

[Jay Z]

Yeah.

[Mariah Carey]

Yeah.

[Bert]

So that wasn't the only stuff. Okay, so you're hanging out with Quincy Jones, you're having drinks with Bono.

[Lindsay]

What else?

[Jay Z]

Yeah, Bono says, you know, oh, we going back to Nice. I got a house out there. Come to my house. He actually wanted me to come on a plane with him, but I had a couple people with me, so I was like, I'm not gonna crowd the plane up. You got. I'll call you when I get there. I get there, I pick up a boat. I take a boat to his house, the guy's house, we go. It's a gate to get in his town, into Bonneville. You understand what I'm saying?

[Bert]

Bono town.

[Jay Z]

Like, to get in the province. It's a gate. Like, we had to put a thing just to drive down Main Street. So we put the code. He called, get the code. He go down. We go over to his house, we had lunch.

[Bert]

You're really killing my buzz.

[Lindsay]

For the road trip to Nashville I was gonna take.

[Jay Z]

For the next two weeks. He was like my concierge service. Like, he gave me the layout for every place in the south of France. Where to go, where to eat, what, the nightlife. So every day I woke up in a new place. I sleep in Sardinia. And I woke up, I was in Corsica. Go to sleep. I woke up, I was in San Tropez. I was in San Tropez, and I was. Give me Portofino.

[Bert]

Unreal, man.

[Jay Z]

I needed it, I bet.

[Bert]

I heard that you were hanging out with the Williams sisters, too, over at Wimbledon.

[Jay Z]

Yeah, I was at Wimbledon, yeah.

[Bert]

I mean, what a trip, man. There was one report that you and a bunch of your friends were down in like $20,000 bottles of Cristal.

[Jay Z]

Now, that was. The prince was one of them princes from. He had a bottle of champagne that might have been up to that sign right there. It's the world's biggest bottle of Cristal ever. They came on a boat. It was 300 foot yacht. It had a discotheque on the top.

[Bert]

I mean, sometimes this is Just too large. Even if you're like, this is too much.

[Jay Z]

Yeah. I ain't want to go over there by that table. Then he goes over there and he.

[Lindsay]

Looks around that he goes, okay, now this really.

[Jay Z]

Money ain't a thing here. Yeah, yeah. It's different levels. Exactly. Like, you just start to see different levels. Like their money is different. They ain't not concerned with rims on a car. Boats, 300 foot yachts, homie.

[Bert]

Man, you just must look at this and just. I mean, there must be times you're like, this is. This can't be.

[Jay Z]

Yeah. I actually stayed up the first night I got the boat. I stayed up that night. Like, I stayed up to the morning, I seen the sun come up. I was just sitting on the back of the boat drinking wine. Like, what am I doing here? Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Bert]

Sure.

[Jay Z]

Wow.

[Bert]

Well, I don't know what you're saying, but I can live it.

[Jay Z]

They call my number, man.

[Bert]

Tell us about Blueprint, too. Because, I mean, you talk about just unbelievably unfortunate bad timing with the first blueprint coming out on 9 11.

[Jay Z]

Yeah.

[Bert]

Because you're thinking there's the last thing on people's minds here is buying CDs, right. And sure enough, you still sold about a half a million.

[Jay Z]

Yeah. Amazing.

[Bert]

That's just. And how about Blueprint 2 now?

[Jay Z]

Numbers come out next week, but it looks good. Like, I'm number one CD in America.

[Bert]

The AJC has some incredible things to say about it. The first thing here says, with Blueprint, he became arguably the greatest living rapper.

[Jay Z]

Wow. Yeah. Appreciate that.

[Bert]

That's something else, huh?

[Jay Z]

Yeah.

[Bert]

Do you look at your life and say, yeah, that's probably accurate? I probably am.

[Jay Z]

I mean, I'm a rapper. I think all rappers believe they the greatest rapper. We arrogant, like, you know, as far as recording. Like, you know, in real life, I'm just a cool, regular person, but when I'm recording is, you know, it's rap, it's competitive. You have to be cocky. You need an edge, you know?

[Bert]

The recently released follow UP, the Blueprint 2, the Gift and the Curse, doesn't just pick up where the last album left off. It suggests new directions for Jay Z's music and largely pleasing results.

[Jay Z]

Wow.

[Bert]

Many tracks, it says, have a live feel and it's great. They go on to talk about how you worked with Lenny Kravitz on this CD also. That's pretty cool.

[Jay Z]

Yeah. Yeah. The guy, he does everything. He writes, produces, arranges, and plays every instrument on all his Albums. I had to work with him.

[Bert]

Yeah, that guy, to me, is the coolest guy ever. I mean, he can say anything and do anything, and people are just like, whatever. He says the coolest thing ever.

[Jay Z]

I don't understand it, but I better. You feel like you missing something if you don't even understand what Lenny Kravitz is doing, right?

[Bert]

But despite offering a flurry of great songs, Blueprint 2 isn't as cohesive as the predecessor. Nevertheless, the set's musical diversity suggests great things for the future.

[Jay Z]

I believe that, too. I said that in the beginning. I said that. It's not your typical Jay Z album. Because, you know, a Jay Z album is a theme. Like, you could just play it and just let it go. Like, with the Blueprint, you just knew. Just soul music. You know what I'm saying? But I just wanted to go with so many different directions on this one. It's hard to make it cohesive. When you go and you got Lenny Kravitz on one track and Mop on.

[Bert]

The next one, is there somebody that says to you, looking over your shoulder, going, okay, this isn't working, or this is working, or you have complete 100% control?

[Jay Z]

Yeah, my friends. I have friends. You know what I'm saying? We need tough love. They offer their opinion. They say anything to me. Somebody told me Hard Knock Life was. Leo. Told me that I'm telling on him. Told me that Hard Knock Life was the worst song he ever heard. Good thing I ain't listening to him. That would have been right. Yeah.

[Bert]

What's the harshest? I mean, is that the harshest thing.

[Jay Z]

Anybody'S ever heard song he's ever heard?

[Bert]

It gets no worse than that, man.

[Lindsay]

It can't get much harder than that.

[Jay Z]

I laughed at him. I said, watch this one work.

[Bert]

Well, welcome back to Atlanta. Thanks for stopping by. Q100. Whenever you're in town, please come on back.

[Jay Z]

My man.

[Bert]

All right, J.C. thanks, man.

[Jay Z]

Cool.

[Bert]

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[Mariah Carey]

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[Bert]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. Now through November 4th. Shop the annual beauty event and save $5 when you spend $25 on select beauty products. Shop in store or online for items like Dove Body Wash Native Body Wash, Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser, Dr. Squatch body wash, Neutrogena Hydro Boost Water Gel, Dial Liquid Hand Soap, and Olay Body wash. And say, $5 when you spend $25 or more. Offer ends Nov. 4. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details. Some people handle their 15 minutes of fame on the Burt Show a lot better than others. This guy choked, all right? Lindsay had a date with a guy named KB they went out and they went bar hopping, had a great time. And then you guys hooked up with friends or you just happened to run into each other at Music Midtown?

[Lindsay]

Yeah, we met some friends at Music Midtown. You know, there were just a lot of people there from school.

[Bert]

Okay, so you guys hooked up there, spent the whole day together and all?

[Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Bert]

And things went great.

[Lindsay]

Yeah, we had a really good time.

[Bert]

Everything seemed to be going fine. And then for two weeks now, he hasn't called you back?

[Lindsay]

No.

[Bert]

Nothing?

[Lindsay]

Not at all.

[Mariah Carey]

Have you run into him at all?

[Lindsay]

No, I haven't.

[Bert]

All Right. So we're gonna give him a call, and we'll ask him for total honesty.

[Lindsay]

Okay, great.

[Bert]

So at least if this relationship doesn't move on, at least you'll know why, right?

[Lindsay]

Yeah, definitely. And, Lindsay, I hope everything works out well, like it did last week.

[Mariah Carey]

K.B.

[Bert]

Is his name.

[Jay Z]

K.B.

[Bert]

K.B. I like guys who have initials for names. K.B.J.B. pretty much all I got.

[Mariah Carey]

J.R. j.R.

[Bert]

There you go. J.W.

[Lindsay]

The bird show.

[Bert]

K.B.

[Lindsay]

The Bert show.

[Bert]

K.B. is a listener.

[Jay Z]

How cool.

[Bert]

How are you?

[Lindsay]

The Bert Show.

[Bert]

KB You've been listening to everything going.

[Lindsay]

On the Burt Show. All right.

[Bert]

Okay, we got that. KB we got Lindsey here with us. Hey, Lindsay, you want to say hi?

[Mariah Carey]

Hi.

[Lindsay]

How's it going? The Bird show.

[Bert]

Oh, God.

[Mariah Carey]

K.B. come on.

[Bert]

K.B. what's going on, man? Lindsay wants to know why there's been no second date.

[Lindsay]

It would sure be a hell of a lot easier for a girl to get another date if Lindsay wasn't such a slut.

[Mariah Carey]

What? Oh, dude.

[Lindsay]

KB I don't know what he's talking about. I have no idea what he's talking about.

[Bert]

That's a pretty strong allegation, my friend.

[Lindsay]

Albert, Joe.

[Bert]

Do you know something we don't know there?

[Lindsay]

KB The Birch Show.

[Mariah Carey]

What's going on?

[Bert]

I love this guy.

[Mariah Carey]

KB why did you call her that?

[Lindsay]

The Bird Show.

[Bert]

We're gonna hit nothing at her.

[Mariah Carey]

Yeah.

[Bert]

Hey, Lindsay, do you have a relationship with one of his friends or something?

[Lindsay]

No, I don't. I don't know what he's talking about. I'm just a friendly person. I really. I. I have no idea. I have no idea what he means. KB the virtual.

[Mariah Carey]

Look, if you're gonna make out. If you're gonna say that about. About a woman, you gotta. You gotta back it up.

[Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Jay Z]

Did she have sex with the Birch Show?

[Lindsay]

The Bird Show.

[Bert]

This all. We're gonna get out of here. KB you know something about this girl we don't know.

[Lindsay]

Exactly. The Bert Show. The Bert Show.

[Bert]

All right. Not gonna.

[Jay Z]

I'm bored.

[Bert]

He's not gonna play. All right, KB we're gonna let you go.

[Lindsay]

Bird Show. Talking to you.

[Mariah Carey]

Yeah. Oh, he's man enough to say that she's a slut, but he's not man.

[Bert]

Enough to say anything else. Lindsay, you don't want any part of this guy anyway.

[Lindsay]

Yeah, I don't. You know what? After that, I don't even care to see him again.

[Jay Z]

Yeah.

[Bert]

What an idiot.

[Lindsay]

I'm looking for somebody better manners, more polite. And who has more to say than.

[Jay Z]

Just the Bird Show.

[Lindsay]

Yeah. Well, I mean, very articulate.

[Bert]

He is a listener, so he's got that going for him. Well, guy sounds like an idiot.

[Lindsay]

Yeah, he's a loser.

[Bert]

Total idiot. Hold on One second. Morning. Q100.

[Lindsay]

Hey, Bert. Hey, this is April. I just wanted to say that Lindsay's much better off without kb. He sounded like a Rain man knockoff.

[Bert]

All right, see you, April.

[Lindsay]

All right, bye.

[Jay Z]

Bye.

[Bert]

There's. You know what? There's no reason to go on. You know what? You had a great time with the guy once or twice and now let it go.

[Lindsay]

I will.

[Bert]

All right, Lindsay. All right.

[Lindsay]

Thanks a lot, guys.

[Bert]

We'll see you.

[Lindsay]

Have a great day.

[Bert]

The third show, on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being very calm and 10 being just completely shook up and nervous. When Mariah Carey came to the studio, we were all scared about it. Cuz the first time we talked to her, we had to hang up on her. Well, the second time, things were way different. Thanks again for coming in.

[Mariah Carey]

No, it's good to be here. Does any. Will anyone think I'm rude if I put my sunglasses on? Because those are so bright and we didn't have much sleep. Do it?

[Bert]

Not at all.

[Mariah Carey]

I'm trying not to be rude and not have a mom. But then it's like the light. I'm like a night creature.

[Bert]

Like, what is like the typical. What is like the typical day and night for Mariah Carey? Like, like what was yesterday?

[Mariah Carey]

Yesterday I was in Miami and what were we doing? Meeting. I did like a fan event. I met a bunch of different fans that were contest winners, which was really nice. And they came and listened to a couple songs from the album and, you know, they gave me little books and stuff like that. And then I actually got to go swimming, which was a nice thing because that's like my favorite thing. And I had this hotel room totally overlooking the ocean. I was like, if I don't go in that water, I'm gonna hate myself. So I made sure I got up early and went in for a little bit and then I went to the studio and came, stayed up and came here.

[Bert]

How many, like, minutes out of the day does Mariah get to hang out with? Just Mariah.

[Mariah Carey]

Just me.

[Bert]

Just you. Just doing whatever.

[Mariah Carey]

It is more fun when someone else is there.

[Bert]

I don't know what it is that you like to do just to get away from everything, to balance everything out.

[Mariah Carey]

Actually, that's what I was saying. The swimming thing was really fun.

[Bert]

Is that it?

[Mariah Carey]

But then it became like, you know, people knew that I was there. And it became a different thing because then you got to be like, if they want to take a picture of something and your hair is, like, wetting in your eyes and, you know there's seaweed floating.

[Bert]

Yeah.

[Mariah Carey]

It's not like a cute moment, but it was all right.

[Bert]

Are you so nice? Are you, like, self conscious all the time that people are taking pictures of you and it's gonna end up in some magazine and you just can't be yourself on a beach?

[Mariah Carey]

Well, I mean, it's like you go to a crowded beach and people want to take. Usually, like yesterday, I tried to tone it on down and, like, not have, like, an entourage. Just went with my friend and a girl who was there working with me. And then, like, had the. Had the security kind of like front and back where you couldn't really tell. But I guess it ended up that you could tell because the first person I walk onto the beach, I'm like, hey, Mariah, right? Our son's over there. He's in eighth grade. Can he come swim with you? I'm like, hey, whatever, sure. So we had a good time.

[Bert]

Is there a time that you can say no to people? Or is that the time where you feel like the one time you say no, somebody's gonna be calling up a radio station and saying, mariah Carey said.

[Mariah Carey]

No to me today, rather than it being like, someone calling a radio station? I personally don't. I'm not good with saying no to people. Like, I usually try to be little miss, you know, crowd pleaser.

[Bert]

See, like, I'm watching you eat your sandwich and I'm watching you drink your Coke and you get the sunglasses on and everything. And I'm wondering, here's the thing about being Mariah Carey, that a guy or a girl like us is never gonna be able to feel like. Is every second of your day calculated? Like, you have to watch what you eat because you have to keep your figure. You have to watch what pictures you're taking because you never know what kind of magazine it's gonna end up in. Is there it always feel it must feel so calculated to you?

[Mariah Carey]

It doesn't. It's not that it feels calculated. It's just that, like, just picture this. Like, you walk in somewhere and there's a video camera on you and you're not expecting it, so you're like, oh, okay, are we filming? And there's a still camera on you and you're like, alrighty, are we taking a photo? And it's all fine. I just like, if they Let me know, then I'll be in that mode. As opposed to I'm relaxed, hanging out, going to the station and.

[Lindsay]

Yeah, well, I told him not to bring the camera.

[Jay Z]

I was like, give it a break.

[Mariah Carey]

But it's fine.

[Lindsay]

Are you ever driving around and you drive past like, a Wendy's or a.

[Jay Z]

Pizza Hut or something and you go.

[Lindsay]

Man, I want that. But I got a video tomorrow or I got a photo shoot next week.

[Mariah Carey]

I'm never driving around because I let my license expire. And basically, I think people in general are better off with me not behind the wheel because I'm like. With the radio stations, changing the radio station and the lip gloss and the soda. Oh, look at that cute outfit in the store. I'm better off as a passenger, you.

[Jay Z]

Know what I mean?

[Lindsay]

When's the last time you fully drove yourself around? Like, totally.

[Mariah Carey]

Like, what year is this? 2002. Yeah, I would say, like, 97.

[Bert]

Is that right?

[Mariah Carey]

Yeah, like, right around the butterfly era, when I used to live up in a place where they were. See, I live in New York, so you don't really drive in New York. People do. But you don't want to drive in New York, right? Like, the cab drivers and everybody. It's like, there's no rules on the road. You just basically like renegade car style, you know, messengers on bikes running you over, things of that sort.

[Bert]

G100 with Mariah Carey. Do you. Do you still enjoy living in New York even after September 11th last year, even though the city's changed? Of course, a lot?

[Mariah Carey]

Well, I'm, you know, being born and raised in New York, that was like, of course, for the world, it was a tragic day. But for me, just personally, it's very strange. Like, I look out my window and my view was the Twin Towers. One of my. I mean, I built the place was like, the apartment where I live was just concrete. It was nothing there. And I kind of designed it with my decorator and figured out what I wanted to do.

[Bert]

I think we've seen it on cribs.

[Mariah Carey]

You may have seen it there. And so the bathroom was put, you know, so you could see I could lie in the tub. And my big thing is, like, I love taking baths. And not that that's not standard. Most people like to bathe, but whatever.

[Bert]

Not the way Mariah Carey.

[Mariah Carey]

But the view is really beautiful. And now when I look out there, it's just really sad because, I mean, there was nothing there. Just looking out and I was seeing just the firemen there for, like, almost a year. You know, still trying to hose it down and all that.

[Bert]

Does the city feel different to you now since that happened, or is it your same old New York City?

[Mariah Carey]

It felt different at first. People were actually nicer. You know, I think it got, you know, everyone always has a stereotypical thing about New Yorkers. Don't say hello to you on the street. You're kind of taught, like when you. I mean, I was taught don't look people in the eye when you're walking down the street, when you're in Manhattan alone. Because I was on my own, living as like a 16 year old, you know, backup singer. Walking around, I would look down, wouldn't look people in the face, you know, mind your own business. And at that point after September 11th, people became very friendly, like, almost like, whoa, you know, we are all in this together. Like something majorly tragic just happened to our city.

[Bert]

Sure. So on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being completely fair and 1 being not fair at all.

[Mariah Carey]

Yes.

[Bert]

How has the media treated you?

[Mariah Carey]

Oh, well, I have a thing with the media where I don't hate the media. I don't group the media together. I don't lump the press together. Everybody has to sell papers and they have to. It's all about ratings. And you get a lot better ratings saying, Mariah Carey had her 93rd breakdown today, went to 23 fat farms and, you know, beat some guy up on the street than you do saying, oh, we heard Mariah was out with her friends, smiling and having a nice day and sitting and having lunch at a bistro and, you know, calmly talking to her best friend. Like, I understand and I get it. Do I feel it? I feel I was caught up in a domino effect that, where it was like one person said something, the next person said something, and it all. That's the way it happens with stories. And I have a different perspective on it now. I realize that it's like, I look at real publications like that aren't tabloids, like one step above a tabloid?

[Bert]

Is that right?

[Mariah Carey]

Because I would be reading stuff, incredible papers, and go, wait a minute. I used to think that this was actually, you know, they had to fact check and stuff. And I would look and see stuff that was completely untrue about myself and go, wow, this is amazing to me. Like, this actually is completely fabricated. And my friends would be there with me, like, wait a minute, you and me were together. This did not occur. Why are you not suing these people? And I was like, you know what? Cause it's not worth it. And it'll pass. And, like, let it go.

[Lindsay]

Have you ever been out at a.

[Jay Z]

Club or something or anything and said and done something and then in the.

[Lindsay]

Next thought, ben, this is gonna end up in the tabloids. That sucks.

[Mariah Carey]

No, because it didn't used to happen like that to me. Like, I don't know. This year was a totally different thing. There didn't used to be people hiding in bushes and taking pictures of me. I mean, I would have things that happen, but it was never, like, to the degree that this was. And I think once something steamrolls into a big story because they never really had anything to say about. My main downfall is that I work, like, too much. I have this work ethic because I grew up without money, and I never wanted to feel like the rug could be pulled out from under me. And then I worked even harder when different personal changes happened in my life and I just worked myself in the ground. Like, we were talking about eating properly and sleeping. Like, you know, Basically, I work 20 hour days for two months straight, and nobody can do that. I don't care who you are. So people think, you know, they see you on TV and you're smiling and you look, you know, yippee. This is an easy life. And, you know, even just from being in radio, it's not all. You have to be like, hey, how you doing? 24 hours a day. You're not always happy when you walk in here. You might be in a bad mood, but actually, you guys can get away with being like, I'm in a freaking bad mood today. I can't go on TV and say that. Otherwise, we, like, Mariah was having a breakdown on tv.

[Bert]

Yeah. What's the biggest misconception about Mariah Carey then? I mean, what's the.

[Mariah Carey]

Oh, there are so many. I don't know.

[Bert]

What's the one that just gets underneath your skin?

[Lindsay]

I thought you were a lot taller.

[Mariah Carey]

You thought I was taller than I am?

[Jay Z]

Mm.

[Lindsay]

You can't. Yeah, I had you at, like, 7:12.

[Mariah Carey]

Everybody always tells me they think. I'm sorry, are you wearing heels? Well, they're not that high.

[Lindsay]

How tall are you without your heels?

[Mariah Carey]

Five, eight. How tall are you?

[Lindsay]

Five, ten and a half.

[Mariah Carey]

Well, sometimes I'm five' ten and a half.

[Bert]

Is there. What's the one thing that just drives you?

[Mariah Carey]

It just drives you crazy. None of it does. Cause you know what I cannot control? What? People's misunderstanding. When you don't know somebody, right, you watch somebody on tv, you might be like, oh, I don't like this person. And I'm guilty of it too. Like, I remember before I became a whatever, celebrity, whatever you want to call it, I'd be watching TV and see some celebrity talking about their woes and I'd be like, yeah, whatever, you're rich and change the channel. You know what I mean? It's like, you know, if you don't know somebody, just look at them on television, or especially if you just see them singing a song, you're not going to know their innermost thoughts or their soul or who they are. So, you know, there's always going to be misconceptions because even we could have this talk and you could be like, yeah, she was alright. But, you know, I mean, until you know somebody for a long time, you don't really know them. So there will always be misconceptions. And basically I get to sing and write songs and make music and do things that I love for a living. So I'm just grateful for that.

[Bert]

Mariah Carey on the Burt show on Q100. Well, let's talk about reality then. The new CD and the new single. Tell us all about it.

[Mariah Carey]

Yes, Dee Dee. Okay, well, my new single is called through the Rain, which was inspired. I kind of. I wrote it when I was in between making decisions about what label I was gonna go to, where I was gonna be, and I just had to separate myself from that whole thing. And I said, let me just go and immerse myself in writing and singing, which has always been my saving grace. Always been the thing that got me through everything from the time I was a baby. So I wrote it and I wrote it kind of to inspire other people to get through stuff that they were going through, you know what I mean? Because despite how highly dramatized my own stuff was, just the fact that it was being highly dramatized was having an effect on me, as it would anybody.

[Bert]

Sure.

[Mariah Carey]

So I was getting a lot. You know, my. My fans were like, oh, you know, nervous and worried about me. And I totally appreciate that because I have this relationship with my fans that's really important to me. And I wanted them to know, like, okay, this is the same person who's always tried to give you hopeful lyrics and this and that. Don't believe this. Suicide attempts and blah, blah, blah. I'm just not that type of person.

[Bert]

So that stuff's not true. Oh, not true.

[Mariah Carey]

Would you like to inspect my wrist? You can take a magnifying glass. It's like, I am just not that type of person. No matter what. I always go to the positive. And you can look back at any of my music and look at any of the songs where it's like, be hopeful, get through it, have faith. That's what I'm about. And you can't be that. You know, I couldn't be that much of a contradiction. That's how I've gotten through my life. You know what I mean? I've gone through a lot worse stuff when I was 12 years old. And I've been through, you know, at this point in my life. So it's really not that deep. But the point of the song through the Rain is you can make it no matter what happens, if you have faith and truly believe that you can. So that's. I've had a lot of really good reaction from fans and people who have just told me that it's already helped them, you know, get through whatever they're going through.

[Bert]

And we will play that next on Q100. Mariah, thank you for coming in. Thank you. Thank you so much for stopping by.

[Mariah Carey]

I enjoyed all of you profusely.

[Bert]

Now go enjoy the rest of your sandwich.

[Mariah Carey]

Okay, thanks.

[Bert]

See ya. Get it the Bird Show.

[Jay Z]

Morning, Zoe.

[Bert]

Got donuts.

[Mariah Carey]

Jeff Bridges, why are you still living above our garage?

[Bert]

Well, I dig the mattress and I want to be in a T mobile commercial like you teach me. So Dana.

[Mariah Carey]

Oh no, I'm not really prepared.

[Bert]

I couldn't possibly at T Mobile get.

[Mariah Carey]

The new iPhone 17 Pro on them.

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[Mariah Carey]

Iphone yet and has the ultimate pro camera system.

[Bert]

Wow, impressive. Let me try.

[Jay Z]

T mobile is the best place to.

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[Mariah Carey]

Nice. Jeffrey, you heard them.

[Bert]

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[Mariah Carey]

Dude, my work here is done.

[Bert]

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[Jay Z]

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[Mariah Carey]

Here's a show that we recommend.

[Jay Z]

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[Jay Z]

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[Jay Z]

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