Full Show PT 2: Thursday, March 19 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show – Full Show PT 2: Thursday, March 19 [Vault] (March 19, 2026)

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Bert Show features a blend of celebrity interviews, listener call-ins with personal dilemmas, comedic banter, and everyday life observations. The main highlight is an in-studio appearance by the band The Fray, who give an intimate performance and candidly discuss band life, writing music, family, and the realities of the music industry. The rest of the episode includes a lively debate about a listener's moral quandary regarding family loyalty, a comedic take on online dating, and a segment on questionable personalized license plates.

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The Fray: Special In-Studio Interview & Performance

Introduction & Band Background

• Hosts express excitement about the private, VIP performance by The Fray for contest-winning listeners (01:31).
• The Fray is described as a "clean-cut" band that "stick to the basics," with little rumor or gossip surrounding them (01:58).
• Hosts joke about not knowing what to ask such drama-free guests (02:16).

Touring, Family, and Band Dynamics

• Discussion about touring life and its toll on family (05:25–07:58):

  • Touring is more frequent due to the changing music industry.
  • Joe King: “...the state of the industry is kind of freaky just from our standpoint, tour wise and all that. Gas prices may go up or whatever, but...people have always listened to music. People will always listen to music...” (05:37).
  • Ben Wysocki: “Oh, well, definitely the first two years when we're slumming it and having to ask for a loan to pay your bills, that's when it gets a little hard… but now we can say, well, we're going to go for three weeks and then come back for a week or two weeks...” (06:07).

• Struggles and support from spouses:

  • Joe King: “I wish I was single, as weird as that sounds, because you wouldn’t have anybody to miss, you know. But then at the same time, we wouldn’t have anybody to go home to...” (07:38).
  • Ben Wysocki: “I’m happy, though.” (07:54)

Memorable Gigs and Band Origins

• Live show highs/lows (04:08–04:39):

  • Joe King recalls a memorable Red Rocks show in the rain: “...we all just clicked and we actually had to cover the instruments so that Dave and Joe didn’t get shocked to death. It might have been a funner show for me than them, but I felt like we had synergy that night.” (04:08)

• Band formation and early days:

  • Mention of band members joining from rival high school bands “out of necessity” (02:34).

• How they review performances:

  • Used to videotape shows for self-assessment, but “Nobody wants to watch a 2am show on the bus” (04:49–05:21).

Writing Hits & Songwriting Process

• ‘How to Save a Life’ and vulnerability:

  • Joe King: “It’s still uncomfortable just because...you're like, being vulnerable in front of a bunch of people. ...It's like imagining walking into a Starbucks and being like, hello, everyone. I'd like to tell you all about the things that I don't know. So that's hard.” (12:36)
  • Host asks if they know a hit when they're making it (12:15).

• How songs are written:

  • “We have a bunch of little snippets and it's like a junkyard… walk around and...put things together.” (13:24).
  • On disagreements: “We are in perfect unison.” (sarcasm, 14:12). In reality, “We vote, actually… Over time, we’re surprisingly diplomatic about things. I think we talk through it till everybody feels comfortable.” (14:25–14:32)

• Album naming (14:42):

  • Chose self-titled on their producer's suggestion after brainstorming 8–10 options.

Getting Signed: Record Deal Stories

• Comparison to sports prospects (15:04):

  • Ben Wysocki: “It’s scary and extremely exciting at the same time. The free dinners are really good.” (15:31)
  • Joe King shares a tense story about last-minute label offers and the chaos of almost signing to a different label (16:03–16:59).

• Is it fun or just stress?

  • “It was very stressful.” (17:11)

Playing Live: Exclusive Performances

• Live renditions of hits including:
  • “You Found Me” (08:25–12:15)
  • “Never Say Never” (17:48–21:48)

Life as “The Fray” & Relationships

• Valentine’s Day expectations as musicians (21:54–22:59):

  • Joe King shares a self-deprecating story: “The first time I met my wife...I played this, like, breakup song for my ex-girlfriend…She stood up and walked away...I must have this woman.”
  • “For Valentine's and stuff, we just have to be home. I think that makes all the difference.” (22:14)

• Award show nerves and surreal celebrity encounters (23:14):

  • Joe King on performing with Stevie Wonder and John Legend: “Thank God Stevie couldn’t see me. But...your mic was not even turned on. You are so white.” (23:28)

The New Album: Artistic Growth and Release (24:17–27:03)

• Ben Wysocki: “There’s dynamics on this record that we didn’t have on the last record. The softer songs are more delicate and the high energy songs are more intense…we still have that Fray stamp on it.” (24:23)
• On the finality of releasing an album: “Feels like it won’t quite be done until Tuesday when it comes out...well, can’t change it now because you just bought it.” (25:15)
• They record about 14–15 tracks, narrowing to 10 (25:55).
• Joe King's album release tradition: goes to buy the album himself, “...and the guy was like, will there be anything else? And I was like, no, just this. And I went to breakfast with my wife and just waited for the texts to come in.” (26:44)

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Listener Dilemma: Family Loyalty vs. Friendship

Paige’s Story (29:40–39:23)

• Caller Paige is torn between loyalty to her brother and her best friend (who is married to her brother) (29:40).

• Paige’s best friend is deceiving her husband (Paige’s brother) by continuing to eat out and keep a housekeeper, against what they agreed upon to save money—a secret Paige is keeping.

• Debate: Should Paige tell her brother, confront her best friend, or stay out of it?

• Callers and hosts are divided:

  • One camp: Stay out of marital issues, but stop enabling by going to lunch (33:28, 33:48).
  • Another: Loyalty lies with family—should at least be stern with her best friend or help her brother (35:14, 36:50, 37:48).
  • “You’re just being rude about it. You’re an enabler.” (37:32)
  • Paige, after much debate: “I will agree that I have not done what I could be doing, but that’s where I’m sitting.” (37:48)

• Consensus: Majority says to cut the lunches and “stay out of it” regarding the marriage, even though it is difficult and emotionally fraught (38:23–38:57).

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Online Dating: Is It Only for the Desperate? (41:02–47:14)

• Phone screener Shawn was challenged to give online dating a real try.
• After a dull first date, tried matching by actual compatibility for her second (42:32).
• Shawn reports a low-key, positive experience, but little chemistry: “I could see myself hanging out with him a lot and just being friends.” (45:33)
• Her attitude toward online dating remains skeptical: “I still think it’s desperate.” (46:13)
• Hosts tease her about stubbornness and possibly being proven wrong (47:00): “She’s starting to be proven wrong, so she’s a little thrown...” (47:31).

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Odd News & Everyday Observations

Controversial Personalized License Plates (48:20–52:03)

• Host shares a story about spotting a potentially inappropriate personalized license plate referencing the South Carolina Gamecocks (49:01–51:59).
• There’s debate over how such plates slip through DMV checks and how context changes their interpretation: “If I can’t say it on the air, the license plate can’t be legal, right?” (49:35)
• Humor about the unintended social implications of having such a plate and how it could deter friends from borrowing your car (52:03).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On vulnerability in songwriting:
  Joe King (12:36):
  “It's like imagining walking into a Starbucks and being like, hello, everyone. I'd like to tell you all about the things that I don't know. So that's hard.”

• On making music in a changing industry:
  Joe King (05:37):
  “People have always listened to music. People will always listen to music. And the way they get it’s changing, and it's gonna be okay, everyone.”

• On work-life-musician balance:
  Joe King (07:38):
  “I wish I was single, as weird as that sounds, because you wouldn’t have anybody to miss, you know? But then at the same time, we wouldn’t have anybody to go home to…”

• Listener advice consensus:
  Caller Panel (38:21):
  “Neither one. Just cut the lunches...stay out of it.”

• On personalized plates:
  Bert Show Host (49:35):
  “If I can’t say it on the air, the license plate can’t be legal, right?”

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Key Timestamps

• Fray interview/performance begins: 01:00
• Red Rocks story: 04:08
• On marriages & touring: 05:25–07:58
• “You Found Me” live: 08:25
• On songwriting/vulnerability: 12:15–14:32
• Getting signed stories: 15:04–17:14
• “Never Say Never” live: 17:48
• Valentine’s Day stories: 21:54
• On the new album: 24:17–27:03
• Listener Paige dilemma begins: 29:40
• Listener calls/advice: 33:28–39:23
• Online dating discussion: 41:02–47:14
• Personalized license plate story: 48:20–52:03

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Tone & Style

Playful, authentic, and conversational; hosts and guests oscillate between humor and heartfelt honesty, fostering a relaxed atmosphere filled with banter and sharply observed commentary.

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Summary

This episode shines with its mix of a heartfelt artist interview and distinctly relatable listener call segments. The Fray provide insights into the realities of being a band in today’s music landscape—balancing vulnerability, creativity, and family—while the hosts and callers keep the tone lively, discuss personal dilemmas, online dating cynicism, and the quirks of everyday life. The show embodies the promise of making mornings bearable, mixing laughs, stories, and performances for radio that feels both big-hearted and real.

Transcript

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[Burt Show Host]

the Bird Show. You guys know the Fray. This is what the phrase sounds like with hit songs.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Right? Here

[Burt Show Host]

we are in our in home studio. I was just telling these guys it's funny that there are people in the building that won't say hi to us in the halls, but when we have the Fray in, man, hey, I love

[Fray Band Member (Singer)]

the Bird show, man. I'm gonna be in there for that.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Gonna be here today. Is that true?

[Burt Show Host]

The Frey should be walking in here any second now. Yeah.

[Burt Show Panelist]

So we're in a separate room from the regular studio that is all decked out as a performance space. And we've got some Burt show and Q100 listeners in here to enjoy this special performance, this private VIP performance of the Fray.

[Burt Show Host]

Yeah, they've been. They've been winning over the last couple of days. And the Fray should be walking in here any couple of minutes. Jen and I were talking earlier, like, the Fray is one of these bands that you just don't read. Like there's just not a lot of rumor. Paparazzi not following them around. It's just not like what they are. They're about music.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Yeah. They really are dedicated to the music and I think their fans follow them because of that. But you're right. There's not a whole lot of ups and downs or crazy rumors or TMZ is not following them everywhere. So pretty clean cut band. And, you know, stick to the basics.

[Burt Show Host]

Yeah. No one's dating a celebrity. You don't see them throwing up in the middle of the night, stuff like that.

[Burt Show Panelist]

They're all married, too.

[Burt Show Host]

Yeah.

[Caller or Listener]

So.

[Burt Show Host]

So I don't even know what we're going to talk to them about.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Well, I think there's a lot to

explore there about, you know, I mean, the music industry is in a different place right now. Bands are having to tour a lot more to be able to make money, and so they're out on tour a lot more. I wonder how their wives are feeling about that. So I have to ask them.

[Burt Show Host]

I think I read yesterday also, although you never know what you read on the Internet, that two of the guys were in, like, rival high school bands. They didn't even like each other for a while, and then out of necessity, they kind of came together and, like, hey, this works pretty well. I like you now.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Hey, you're kind of good at this.

[Burt Show Host]

Yeah. Let's make money.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Yeah.

[Burt Show Host]

So. All right. The Fray, we ready to go. Let's bring them on in. Here they are. The fray. The Q100 studio is walking in right now. Isaac and Joe, Dave, Ben. The fray at Q100.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Welcome.

[Burt Show Host]

That is the. There are four guys in here that have the. Damn. We played late last night. I can't believe we gotta be up early to do this, but we're glad you guys came. How you guys doing this morning?

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Good, man.

[Burt Show Host]

Thanks a lot for coming on in. You guys played a Variety playhouse last night?

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Yes, sir.

[Burt Show Host]

Yeah. How'd it go?

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Good.

[Burt Show Host]

Actually.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

It was a really good show.

[Burt Show Host]

Are there times where you guys. I think a lot like our show also. There are some days where we come in studio, and there are some days we're all clicking, and there are just some days that we just all suck.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Right.

[Burt Show Host]

What's that today? Today? It's too early to tell. I'll let you know over the next 15 minutes. So do any, like, live performances stand out where you guys just all rocked it one night and another one where you guys just all just sucked?

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

This one might be one of those. Hopefully it's. Hopefully it's a good one.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

It's gonna be one of the.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

It's gonna be one or the other. It's gonna go either way.

[Burt Show Host]

Anytime in touring where, like, one night just stands out, where you're like, yeah, that was. That's what we got to remember, and that's what we want to do every night.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Yeah. Actually, there's a venue in Denver called red rocks, and U2 recorded under a blood red sky there, and a lot of famous bands played there. Beatles played there and stuff. And we had a show there that it rained at, and everybody stayed. Actually, probably some of the dudes left, but for the most part, everybody stayed. And I don't know we all just clicked and we actually had to like cover the instruments so that Dave and Joe didn't get shocked to death. It might have been a funner show for me than them, but I felt like we had synergy that night.

[Burt Show Host]

Do you guess after, like, after a show, like, sit down and go, okay, this is what worked and this is what didn't work? Or you just, you know, we'll do it again tomorrow night?

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Yeah, we used to. We used to videotape each show and

[Burt Show Host]

then go back and look at it.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Go back?

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Yeah. Well, it kind of works. But you'd end up, you know, you're on tour and you videotape a show and then you get on the bus and by that time it's like 2am in the morning or 3am who wants to watch the show? And then Ben was usually the guy watching from the couch for maybe the first couple songs. Then you'd come in and get, you know, water or something and he just passed out. Show's not that boring.

[Burt Show Host]

Bored by it at that point. It's the fray on the Burt show on Q100 this morning.

[Burt Show Panelist]

We were talking about this before you guys came in and we were wondering about. With the state of the music industry, bands touring a lot more now to support themselves. How are all of your wives feeling about you guys being out on the road?

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Good. I think the state of the industry doesn't really affect them. We're leaving whether it's going to be good money or bad money. The state of the industry is kind of freaky just from our standpoint, tour wise and all that. Gas prices may go up or whatever, but I think for the most part, people have always listened to music. People will always listen to music. And the way they get. It's changing and it's gonna be okay, everyone.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Is it affecting your families at all because you guys are out out more? Are they used to it by now?

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Oh, well, definitely the first two years when we're slumming it and having to ask for a loan to pay your bills, that's when it gets a little hard because they're like, I need to buy some groceries. And you're out. You're gone for like, you know, a month at a time. We just, you know, you had to. We had to like, put in the time to break the band and do the thing and. And it's a little easier now because we can say, well, we're going to go for three weeks and then come back for a week or two weeks. So we kind of have like time frames now.

[Burt Show Host]

So is the mentality of what was going to be your future wise. More like, look, this is a band. This is what we're signing up for. So it's not going to be so shocking. If they're on the road that many weeks, it sort of knew what they were getting into.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Yeah. Like, I think we've. We've learned how to do it healthy now. So. Yeah, it's just. It's a different dynamic than it. Than it was the first couple years, but I don't. We didn't know what we signed up for.

[Burt Show Host]

Yeah.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

I don't think they could anticipate anything.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Do they ever travel with you guys? Do you bring them on the road?

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Yeah, yeah. They come out. It's. It kind of sucks because your life comes to a screeching halt when you come on the road and we have stuff to do, which is cool, but they just sort of sit around and check out the local museum or something, so it's kind of boring for them. But they come out every couple weeks.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Yeah.

[Burt Show Host]

Could you pinpoint a time where they were used to be really excited to be out on the road with you? Was there one specific city where they're like, you know what? I'm done with this. I'm so sick of this.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Yeah.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

No, no, no.

[Burt Show Host]

I heard a yeah in there somewhere.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

No, they're so supportive, man. I don't think we could do this without them. And it sucks because on one hand, like, I wish I was single, as weird as that sounds, because you wouldn't have anybody to miss, you know?

[Burt Show Host]

Yeah.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

But then at the same time, we wouldn't have anybody to go home to either, so it's like, it sucks on either side.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

I'm happy, though.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Oh, you're happy. We're happy.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

We're happy.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Sorry, man. You asked me in two hours. I'm totally developed.

[Burt Show Host]

Well, we'll talk more to the Fray here in just a couple of minutes, but we want to hear some stuff off the. The new album, which comes out February 3rd. Is that right? Yeah, I get that, right?

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Yes, sir.

[Burt Show Host]

Well, let's do what you want to do, guys. It's your time. The Fray on.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Keep clicking, you guys. You guys on. We're good.

[Burt Show Host]

I'm feeling it. All right. A definite energy going on.

[Fray Band Member (Singer)]

I found God on the corner of first and I must die where the west was all but one all alone Smoking his last cigarette I said, where you been? He said asking anything where. Never came to the corner of the stand I missed out lost and insecure you found me, you found me? I know? Surrounded, surrounded? Why do you have to wait? When were you? When were you? Just a little late? You found me, you found me. In the end every moment I belong

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

lo

[Fray Band Member (Singer)]

the only one who's ever known who I am, who I'm not, who I wanna be? Knowing to know how long she will be next to me. Lost, insecure? You found me? You found me? Lying on the floor? Surrounded, surrounded? Why you have to wa. Where were you? Where were you? Just a little late? You found me, you found me? Early morning city breaks? I've been crawling years and years and years and years? You never left me no messages, never sent me no letters? You got so cat on there taking all I want? Lost and insecure? You found me, you found me Lying on the floor? Where were you? Where were you? Lost and insecure? You found me? You found me? Lying on the floor? Surrounded, surrounded by 2/2 away? Where were you? Where were you? Just a little late? You found me, you found me? Why you hopped away to find me.

[Burt Show Host]

On Q100. Can you guys feel a hit when you're in the studio? I mean, you guys had over my Head and how to Save a Life, specifically with those two songs. Was there something special about those two? Where you were there in studio, going, okay, all right, Those are a little different. That might be a hit right there.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

We're not very good at the whole what's gonna work at radio thing, but the. I remember the first time recording how to Save Life, it was. It was like, right on the edge of, like, what we understood and what we knew, kind of, like what we were comfortable with. And I'd love to, like, sing about stuff we figured out years ago. And you're like, let me tell you my wisdom. And that stuff's, like, right on the border. So it's kind of uncomfortable to sing sing about that stuff. It's still uncomfortable just because, you know, you're, like, being vulnerable in front of a bunch of people. I mean, you guys seem nice, but I never met you before. It's like imagining walking into a Starbucks and being like, hello, everyone. I'd like to tell you all about the things that I don't know. So that's hard. But I think that was. That was a theme. If there was any about. About those first two songs. They're both really vulnerable.

[Burt Show Panelist]

How do you guys write songs as a band?

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

We get them on this website. It's like kids dot com. It's probably a real radio ra. Which format would you like to succeed in? Now we just. We have a bunch of little snippets and it's like a junkyard kind of back home. We just walk around and we're like, this looks like a good piece of bumper or something, you know? And then we sort of put things together.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Do you guys all write the lyric? Do you write the lyrics? And then the band helps put together the music. How does it come together?

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Everybody's good at something different. So we all sort of like bring it together. Some of us write first and then bring it to other guys. And it's kind of. It's kind of a weird process. We haven't really figured it out yet. So we'll get back to you as soon as we figure it out. Nailed down.

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Yeah.

[Burt Show Host]

You guys ever bump heads? Like, one guy is sure we should go in this direction another guy.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

No, no, no.

[Burt Show Host]

We're liars.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

We are in perfect unison.

[Burt Show Host]

Liar.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Like four swans.

[Burt Show Host]

Absolutely lying, man. What do you do when there's a stalemate? That should have been. That should have been the question. What do you do when there's like one guy thinks you should go in one way, another guy thinks you should go a different direction?

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

We vote, actually.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Call our manager.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

He's like my guitar line.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Paper, rock, scissors.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Always actually, over time, we're surprisingly diplomatic about things. I think we talk through it till everybody feels comfortable.

[Burt Show Host]

Yeah.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Who picked the name of this new album?

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Actually, our producer suggested we. We written a list of probably 8, 10 different options and nothing was sticking. And he's like, self titled. You should. You should think about self titled. So it started brewing us and then it made sense. Like, you know what? Why not? Yeah, let's just self title it.

[Burt Show Host]

So I want you guys to bring us back to that time. You know, you were talking about how you weren't even sure the Fray was really going to be the Fray eventually. I want to talk about that time where you guys weren't the Fray yet and you were just about to be signed. I'm always a little bit curious about this. Like, is it a little bit like a hot high school football prospect that's being scouted by college colleges and you're getting calls all the time from different labels going, we want you, we want you. We want you. Talk to us about what that time is like.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

You know, it's scary and extremely exciting at the same time. The free dinners are really good.

[Burt Show Host]

That's against NCAA rules.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

We literally. Yeah, well, ncw.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

We literally.

[Burt Show Panelist]

You threw them off.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

You do that thing.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Do you remember? Do you remember when we had the deal, like, ready to go, and we hadn't signed anything yet, but I said, do you remember there was this time when I do remember.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Isaac, that's funny that you mentioned.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

You go ahead and tell that story. We go with Sony, and there's another label that, like, jumped in fourth quarter, and they're like, we need you. We're flying a man out tonight, so

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

we're gonna sign you.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

We got this phone call, and the guy's like, I'm at the hotel. Where do you guys want to meet?

[Fray Band Member (Singer)]

And we're like, call you back.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

So we called our manager, and he's like, do not, under any circumstances, go to dinner with that man.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

No, but the big thing the night before, because I knew he was coming out and everything. You might have not.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

I was in the dark, but Dave was like.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

I called Dave because Dave's our food guy. And if you don't know, he does, like, reviews on restaurants and all this. He's pretty big deal. He's a big deal. Big deal. So I asked him the night before. I was like, so, where should we go to dinner tomorrow night? What's a good spot that we haven't been to yet? And he told me, like, some Kevin Taylor in Denver. So we were planning on just having a great dinner, free and not so much signing a deal. But the guy didn't know that. If you're out there.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Yeah. The guy's like, that was freaking me, anyways. Yeah. It's a very tumultuous time.

[Burt Show Host]

Yeah. But an exciting one. You look back at it like, that was. That was pretty cool time. Or was it more stressful than anything else?

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

More stressful?

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Yeah, it was very stressful. Yeah.

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Because, I mean, you're like, picking. It's like a marriage or something, you know? You're picking who you're gonna be with

[Burt Show Host]

for the rest of your life.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Yeah, something like that. But, yeah, it was. It was super scary sometimes. Yeah.

[Burt Show Host]

Let's hear some more stuff off the. The new CD here. It's the Fray live on the bert show and Q100.

[Fray Band Member (Singer)]

Some things we don't talk about Rather do without. Just hold the smile Falling in and out of love Ashamed and proud of together all the while. You can never say never While we don't know when and time again Younger now than we were before. Don't let me go, don't let me go don't let me go, don't let me go don't let me go, don't let me go Fix queen of everything far as the eye can see. Under your command, I will be your guardian. When all is crumbling Steady our hand. You can never sing. Never. While we don't know when Silence. Time and time Younger now than we were before. Don't let me go don't let me go don't let me go don't let me go don't let me go don't let me go. Together again and again but we won't let. Together, we pull it together. Sam. Don't let me go don't let me go don't let me go don't let me go don't let me go don't let me go don't let me go don't let me go don't let me go.

[Burt Show Host]

That's the fray, G100 and the birch show in studio this morning.

[Burt Show Panelist]

So we were talking earlier this morning about Valentine's Day. So I'm wondering what you guys have in store for Valentine's Day, because I would think, being the Fray, all you have to do is write a song for your woman, be like, la, la,

la, la, la, la.

[Listener or Caller]

I love you, baby.

[Burt Show Panelist]

I love you, baby. And that's it. So I'm just wondering what you guys do.

[Burt Show Host]

The bar must be set pretty high for you guys.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Yeah.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

The first time I met my wife, actually like, three hours into it, I was at a friend's house, and I was playing piano, because that's what I did. And she was watching me, and I was like, hey, can I play a song? She's like, sure, whatever. So I played. I played this, like, breakup song for my ex girlfriend, and I finished the last note, and I was like. She stood up and walked away. Didn't say that. And I was like, I must have this woman. So, yeah, I think. I think to some extent, they're. They see. They see past the music and all that, and to. To our faults, straight to them. So I think, you know, for. For. For Valentine's and stuff, we just have to be home. I think that that makes all the difference.

[Burt Show Host]

So the bar isn't set high. It's pretty low.

[Fray Band Member (Singer)]

It's pretty low, actually, just to be

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

there would be enough succeeding.

[Burt Show Panelist]

You established that early on.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Yeah. Yeah, we made sure that was gonna happen.

[Burt Show Host]

Just show up. I was watching some. Some footage last night of you guys performing live. I think it was the American Music Awards. Is that in November?

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Yeah.

[Burt Show Host]

I'm curious because, you know, the producers strategically put, like, the biggest stars in the first couple of rows there for TV purposes. I'm wondering if you guys have Ever done an award show like that and looked out and then, oh, my God, there's blank, blank, blank, blank. I've been a little bit nervous about the performance.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Yeah, yeah. There was one thing, like Tony Bennett was there and Stevie Wonder. Stevie Wonder. All these crazy people. Actually, the weirdest moment I had was this Yamaha gig that I did, and it was like five artists. And then the surprise artist was Stevie Wonder. Everyone's like, oh, my gosh, Stevie Wonder. And then they handed all of us mics and they're like, go sing with him. And I didn't know the song, so I was like, standing, and it was me and John Legend, and John was like, wailing and doing his little Marvin Gaye dance. And I was like, oh, I could do that. So I started doing this, like, chicken dance. Thank God Stevie couldn't see me. But I found out later, I was like. I asked Ben because Ben was there. I was like, dude, did you hear me? Was it okay? And he's like, your mic was not even turned on. You are so white.

[Burt Show Host]

Tell us about the new album. Like I said, it comes out February 3rd. So what to expect from it?

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Yeah, I think. I think it's. I mean, we feel good artistically about it. Like, it's the next step. There's dynamics on this record that we didn't have on the last record. There's like, the softer songs are more delicate and the high energy songs are more intense and have more energy. Yeah. And I think we're just overall just proud of it as a collective and we still have that fray stamp on it.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

So.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Yeah.

[Burt Show Host]

So February 3rd, is there an absolute finality to making a new album? Like, when you hit the last chord, the last note of the last song, do you guys realize, okay, it's done now. Let's party. Or is that really not the end?

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Wow. I wish. When was that last chord? I think we all had. Oh, you bought, like, Captain Nelson's. What was that?

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Something. Yeah, I remember something mildly amusing story about that, John. Yeah, I remember playing the last note on my. On my pianos and stuff like that. And we was at the studio in Denver and I hit it and I went home and I was, like, breathing deep and I thought it was gonna be over. And then there was, like, six months of mixing and mastering. We wrote this other song that everybody freaked out. Like, that's a hit and it didn't make the record, so. So maybe we should have put it on there. But, yeah, it feels like it won't quite be done until Tuesday when it comes out, it's like, well, can't change it now because you just bought it.

[Burt Show Panelist]

So how many songs do you record and then how many make the album?

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Well, we narrowed it down. I mean, we had. We recorded probably like 20, some, like, rough demos and just kind of sketching stuff out. And then actually in the studio was like, probably 14 songs or 15. So I narrowed it down to about 10. And all of those that didn't make it were horrible. Not horrible, but there was just. Some fell apart, like, in the studio, didn't come out the way you wanted it to. So, yeah, just. You just kind of narrow it down.

[Burt Show Host]

If the album comes out Tuesday morning, do you guys sleep Monday night because you're so excited? It doesn't matter anymore. You're very Zen with it. Or is that a day that you track how many sales? Or that's just not important, you guys.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Yeah, I think we're doing a morning show at 4am so we'll be up. Yeah, my tour manager just got so tired just then.

[Burt Show Host]

He's like, when will it end?

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

No, last. Last record. I went into Best Buy or something and picked it up, and the guy was like, will there be anything else? And I was like, no, just this. And I went to breakfast with my wife and just waited for the texts to come in.

[Burt Show Host]

You see Soundscan, there's one sale, and it was yours.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Ye.

[Burt Show Host]

Hey, good luck on Tuesday, guys. I hope it goes great. And thanks to the Fray for coming on in. They played last night at Variety Playhouse and woke up this morning and came in, hung out with you guys at Q100. So thanks a lot, guys.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Thank you.

[Burt Show Host]

Thanks for having me, and good luck on Tuesday.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Thank you.

[Burt Show Host]

The Fray Birch Show. Q100. The Birch Show.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Can you grab one more thing?

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

I'll come back up for you.

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[Fray Band Member (Singer)]

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[Burt Show Co-Host]

So we have a debate that I don't know how much I'll be able to weigh in on because, I mean, I'll have an opinion, obviously, but everyone in this room has a sibling except for me, so. And Paige. Paige has a sibling related issue.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Okay.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

So I may. I'll offer up an opinion, but this is going to be yours and then callers to help out.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Okay.

[Amica Insurance Announcer]

You said that.

[Burt Show Panelist]

So sad.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

I know.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Just me.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Oh, he's not sad that he was. He got all the attention and all the goodies and all the booty.

Yeah, no, hand me downs.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

All the what?

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Booty.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Yeah.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

How kind of family did you grow up in?

[Burt Show Panelist]

No, like, pirate booty, dude. But yeah.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

So just so you know, I didn't grow up on the high seas. Hey, Paige. Welcome to the show.

[Caller or Listener]

Hi.

[Caller (Paige)]

How are you?

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

Good.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

How are you?

[Caller (Paige)]

I'm okay.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

So we're having some loyalty issues.

[Caller (Paige)]

Yes.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Okay.

[Caller (Paige)]

I really need your help.

[Caller or Listener]

All right.

[Burt Show Host]

What's going on?

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Your brother versus your best friend.

[Caller (Paige)]

Exactly.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Tell us the story.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Okay.

[Caller (Paige)]

Well, she's been my best friend since middle school. We've been friends for a very long time. I love her. She's like my sister. And she is my sister because she's married to my brother.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

So that's cool.

[Burt Show Panelist]

So they're married. Okay. Gotcha, Gotcha.

All right.

[Caller (Paige)]

So my brother had to take on an extra job. The economy is affecting everyone and it's affecting his family. Well, not an extra job. He took an extra shift where he works.

[Amica Insurance Announcer]

Okay.

[Caller (Paige)]

And he had this agreement with my best friend, his wife, to cut back on going out to eat and shopping. And they have this, a housekeeper coming in and clean. And they agreed that they would stop with that. And my best friend, she does the financing for the household.

[Caller or Listener]

Right.

[Caller (Paige)]

And she. She still goes out to lunch with me all the time. She still goes shopping, and she kept the housekeeper, so she has this Housekeeper come in and clean the whole house, and then she tells my brother that she cleans it. So she's lying to him about this.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Okay.

[Caller (Paige)]

I see how tired and exhausted he is when he comes home. I see how this is affecting him. And he wouldn't have to work this extra shift if my girlfriend had stopped doing the things they had agreed on stopping.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Right. It seems like such a clear cut decision to me, but go ahead. I wonder where the, where the confusion comes in.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Do you tell. The question is, do you tell your brother what his wife is doing?

[Caller or Listener]

Right?

[Caller (Paige)]

Because if she were married to anyone else in the world, I wouldn't care. I still get to go out to lunch with my best friend. You know what I mean?

[Burt Show Panelist]

So if your best friend seriously was not married to your brother and she was doing all these things that made her life so easy and he was busting his butt and exhausted, thinking that he needed to do that to support the family, you wouldn't say anything to your best friend?

[Caller (Paige)]

I wouldn't say anything to her husband.

[Caller or Listener]

Right.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Well, I mean, have you said something to your best friend about how this is kind of. This is wrong.

[Caller (Paige)]

Yes, I have made little. I can't believe, you know, are you sure we can be doing this, or do you want me to pay for lunch today and things like that? I don't come out and say, hey, you know, my. My brother's working extra hard for you. I haven't. I have not sat down with her and done that.

[Caller or Listener]

No.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Well, it seems like that's number one to me because I do think. I mean, in this situation, you know, I do believe in family. And so I have to say that even though my best friend since middle school, he's been my brother since, you know, forever. And the fact that he is. It's just, he's being deceived and he is working so hard. And y' all are going to lunch together. I mean, it sounds like you're just very flippant about, oh, and I get to still have my lunches and whatever.

I actually disagree. I say stay out of it. I mean, this is a married couple, right? And this is, you know, their business. It's the way they want to handle their life. And, you know, I just think that you need to keep your nose out of your.

I'd say stop going to lunch with you, though.

I mean, you could definitely do that.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Then the brother will be mad at you, too, for enabling it. But who told you about the finances? Because guys generally won't talk about, hey, this is what I'm doing. So if your brother found out that you were still going to lunch with her, would he be mad at you? Like, does he know that you're not supposed to be. She's not dining out.

[Caller (Paige)]

Probably would. He would probably say something to me.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Hey, Bailey. Welcome to the bird show.

[Caller (Paige)]

Hi.

[Caller or Listener]

I think she should definitely stay out of it and just talk to her best friend and tell her why she's not going to go to lunch with her. I mean, it's crazy.

[Caller (Paige)]

You're going to lose both of them, honey, if you.

[Caller or Listener]

If you get involved with this, they're gonna both be mad.

[Caller (Paige)]

Right?

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Hey, Stacy, welcome to the show.

[Caller (Paige)]

Hi.

[Caller or Listener]

I just wanted to agree with the

[Caller (Paige)]

other caller and say, stay out of it.

[Caller or Listener]

It is none of your business whatsoever,

[Caller (Paige)]

and no good can come from it.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Hey, Asia, welcome to the show.

[Caller or Listener]

Hi. I want to say on one note, stay out of it. You know, it's none of your business, but you're just as guilty. Like, how you, you know, you're concerned about your brother and him working hard, but you're not stop. You're not stopping the lunches, though. You're still going.

[Burt Show Panelist]

That'd be offensive to me.

[Caller (Paige)]

I try to pay for it every time.

[Caller or Listener]

I mean. But yeah, that really is a kind of like, you know, okay. You're still condoning, like, okay, well, cool.

[Caller (Paige)]

You sure we could do this?

[Caller or Listener]

And if she says, yeah, you're like, all right, I'm with it. But my brother is really working hard.

[Burt Show Panelist]

I'm just. I'm saying I have been to lunches and dinners with friends where it's like, you pay for it.

[Listener or Caller]

I pay.

[Burt Show Panelist]

There are ways to actually pay for a meal. And not because I, you know her going, well, I try to pay for it. No, there are ways you can do it. It just seems like, I don't know, I just a little offended by how just the fact that he is working so hard and she is still doing these things and you're participating in it. Just. I don't know.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

What would the conversation sound like, Melissa, with your brother? Like, how would you tell him?

[Burt Show Panelist]

I do agree that. Not to go behind her back and tell the bro. I get where people are coming from, but I do think I would be a lot more stern with my best friend because it's my brother. This is your family, and I can't go to lunch with you anymore, and I can't do this, and I can't endorse your housekeeper if he's busting his butt. I would totally give my full opinion because she knows you're his sister.

[Caller (Paige)]

Right?

[Burt Show Panelist]

So I don't know. I don't think you're fighting hard enough.

[Caller (Paige)]

Yeah, you're probably right. I. I just can't see myself starting a big fight with her. I've never had a fight with her.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Then don't start a fight with her. But you're going to lunch with her, and you're spending his money that he doesn't realize is being spent on this.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Hey, Nancy. Welcome to the show.

[Caller or Listener]

Hi, Jeff and everybody. My best friend was married to my brother for seven years, and I had all these same issues, but not to the extent that she does, but it's just best to stay out of it because now they're divorced, and she was hiding bills from him, which I actually didn't know about, but it's just really ugly to the point that I can't speak to either one of them because she was deceiving my brother, and it was. It's terrible.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Now that. Now that they're divorced, do you regret not saying something to him?

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah, I did. And I said something to her when she got engaged to him. I said, you know, you're making a mistake. This is because I knew that the two of them weren't right for each other, but I never said it to him because he was just, you know, madly in love with her. But I. I wish I could go back now, but. And, you know, have warned him that she was the way that she was, and. And now there's kids involved, and it's. It's just horrible.

[Burt Show Panelist]

It's easy to say looking back on it, though, once it's already over. Oh, I knew that was never gonna

[Burt Show Co-Host]

work, you know, and then if the. But if they worked out great. I knew from the moment you guys met each other, it was, you're compatible forever.

[Burt Show Panelist]

It's kind of like me saying that I knew Tracy was pregnant before she told us she was pregnant.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Right.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Like, unless you say it back then, you don't really get credit for it now to say, oh, they'll never work.

Mm.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Hey, Patty. Welcome to the show.

[Caller or Listener]

Thank you. Yeah, I just wanted to comment. You know, I have a brother, and he was dating my best friend at one time, and something was going on I found out about, and I'd let my brother know about it because of my loyalty to my brother, because he is blood first. And, yeah, he was really upset with me for a long time. But, you know, she. If she's really this girl's friend, if she wants to be a friend, then she should be Offering to go over and help her clean her house and have lunch at home and not going out.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Agreed.

[Caller or Listener]

That's how you support your friends.

[Burt Show Panelist]

To say that you see your brother exhausted when he comes home, and. I don't know. I. That's why I just. I don't know. I feel like you're.

[Burt Show Host]

You.

[Burt Show Panelist]

You're just being rude about it. You're an enabler. Yeah, absolutely. I just. I could not imagine seeing my brother so exhausted and me actually spending his money behind his back and him not knowing it and feeling. I don't know. I just think that's so bad.

[Caller (Paige)]

I understand what you're saying. And I should not go out to eat with her, and I should not do the things that I'm doing. It's not like I'm doing it every day. And I have cut back. I have. Have said no. I'm not. I'm not completely the enabler that I think I'm coming off as being. But, yes, I. I am. I. I will agree that I have not done what I could be doing, but that's the. That's where I'm sitting. That's why I'm so. I don't know what to do. I don't know who to. To go to. And say, listen, neither one.

[Burt Show Panelist]

I said neither one.

Neither.

Just cut the lunches.

Yeah.

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

Yeah.

[Burt Show Panelist]

There's not helping. Stay out of it.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Yeah. There's not. A lot of times that we do topics on the show, like advice type topics, where the results are unanimous, at

[Burt Show Panelist]

least majority, because usually it's 50. 50 split on what you should do, but.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

And everybody says you deal with your best friend, but for the most part, you stay out of the conflict, and that means you can't say anything to your brother.

[Caller (Paige)]

Yeah.

[Caller or Listener]

Okay.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Good luck with that.

[Caller (Paige)]

Thank you. Yeah, thank you. I really appreciate your help.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

And, you know, feel comfort in the fact that, you know, it was a majority rule, which never happens on Q100.

[Burt Show Panelist]

It's true.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

So you should be okay.

[Burt Show Panelist]

She's relieved. I think you're relieved.

[Caller (Paige)]

Yeah, I am. I am. I. It's gonna be very difficult for me to stay out of it, but I'll just. I'll just say no to the lunches. That'll help.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Say no to lunch.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Coaching her way through it, she's like, just.

Yeah. I don't believe that she's gonna be able to do it, but she's trying to lunches.

Just say no to the lunch.

[Caller (Paige)]

No to lunch and no to shopping and. No, no, no.

[Amica Insurance Announcer]

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[Burt Show Co-Host]

Good. Good luck, Paige.

[Caller (Paige)]

Thank you so much.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Take care.

[Burt Show Host]

The Birch Show

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[Burt Show Host]

So here she is. Phone screener Shawn has been telling us now for weeks and weeks and weeks. It's online dating thing. It's for desperate people. It doesn't work. It's stupid.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Your alternative is to have Jessica set you up with someone.

[Burt Show Host]

I think I'd go with match if I were guys.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Stay online.

[Burt Show Host]

So if you weren't listening, a couple of weeks ago, we sort of challenged. Sean said, okay, look, you haven't even tried the thing. You're making a judgment about online dating, but you've never actually gone on a date date after you've met somebody online. So she did a few weeks ago and it didn't go great. And when I say great, it. It sucked.

[Listener or Caller]

It was boring, it was dull. And I was talking the whole time. He just sat there, was very nervous.

[Burt Show Host]

Part of that was your fault though.

[Caller (Paige)]

How?

[Burt Show Host]

Because you just picked a guy randomly instead of doing what you should do when you go online and that is like fill out the whole questionnaire. They match you with somebody that has like interests of you. And then you go on the date with somebody that you have something in common. You just randomly picked one.

[Listener or Caller]

It's fun in his pictures.

[Burt Show Panelist]

You gotta. Can't tell by pictures.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

I guess everybody can look fun in a picture.

[Listener or Caller]

Which, at the end of the day, he didn't want to wind up taking a picture with me. So that just.

[Burt Show Host]

I can't put that on.

[Listener or Caller]

That was weird.

[Burt Show Host]

I'm putting that one on you.

[Amica Insurance Announcer]

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[Burt Show Panelist]

Did he look fun in this picture? Because his mouth was open.

Are you bitter enough?

You're having the best time ever.

[Listener or Caller]

He actually did in one.

[Burt Show Host]

He did?

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah.

[Burt Show Panelist]

See, you look fun.

[Burt Show Host]

The little mento smile. So we said, all right, let's do this the right way. Go ahead, go online, fill out the questionnaire. Find somebody that you have something in common with. 70%, 80%, 90% commonality. So that was her homework assignment.

[Listener or Caller]

Yes.

[Burt Show Host]

And it happened this weekend?

[Listener or Caller]

It did. We had a lot of the same interest in music, and so we would talk about that a lot. And he asked me to go out on a date with him, and we went to the Plaza Theater, which I've never been to, but it was a really cool place.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

I can't believe you found someone that you're compatible with. Like birth said, who's not in jail or therapy.

[Listener or Caller]

Not that I know. And so we went there and we

[Burt Show Host]

said furlough, and it just wasn't his time for his session.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Or he could be like that. What was that guy's name? Special K or whatever that weekend. Jail.

[Burt Show Host]

Yeah. It's a furlough type deal.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Yeah.

[Listener or Caller]

Somebody find him for me.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

He only has to go in Monday through Friday or something.

[Burt Show Host]

How many times did you talk to him online or did you speak to him on the phone before? He said, hey, let's meet up this weekend.

[Listener or Caller]

He was one of the first ones to actually send me a message. So probably, I guess, a week and a half as long as I had the profile. We just went back and forth. He sent me, like, a whole page. Now I respond a paragraph because I didn't want to give away too much. I'm gonna leave a little mystery.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Sure.

[Burt Show Host]

What was in his profile that made you think, okay, this guy, this guy that this might work out with.

[Listener or Caller]

It was kind of actually like mine. Just kind of random little spurts of, I like this and this and that. And his music taste was really good. And so we went to see the Blues Brothers, which I've never seen, and that was just a hilarious movie. We didn't do much talking because. Because in a Movie, you can't really talk. But we talked about 15 minutes before and after.

[Burt Show Host]

And the original Blues Brothers movie.

[Listener or Caller]

I guess so.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Yeah.

[Burt Show Host]

From back in the day.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Yeah, they're screening it.

[Burt Show Host]

Oh, are they? All right, so you go there, you talk to him for about 15 minutes. You go into the theater, you come out. Do you guys do anything after that?

[Listener or Caller]

No. Cause it was like 10:30 and I get up early. I'm an old lady on the weekend. Oh, no, it was Thursday night.

[Burt Show Host]

Oh, okay.

[Listener or Caller]

Yes.

[Burt Show Host]

Okay. Okay.

[Listener or Caller]

And usually, typically, movie dates are pretty lame, but that was a different sort of approach to it.

[Burt Show Host]

Isn't that kind of a cop out? If a guy tells you he's taking you to a movie for the very first time, doesn't it seem too easy?

[Burt Show Panelist]

I think just, yeah, movie dates in general, as a first date is a bad idea.

[Burt Show Host]

Sounds very eighth grade to me. Yeah, it's not a bad idea.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Not if you're going to a classic movie. Like, it's different. It's not like you're going to see Blart.

[Burt Show Host]

Sort of a different angle.

[Burt Show Panelist]

It's kind of creative. It's a little bit different. And I think. Think when you're total strangers, because it's basically a blind date, you know what I mean? Then it's kind of nice to have that buffer in there. You know? If it was somebody that you had met through a friend and you'd already had conversations, stuff, you knew them already, then maybe the first date would be the cop out. But it sounds like it was the right thing.

Yeah.

[Listener or Caller]

He even mentioned that it was probably pretty lame at first, but it was a good idea, I thought. And creative. He works at a college bookstore. That's what he does for a living. So he's pretty chill, indie looking. And he looked different from the pictures.

[Burt Show Host]

Better when you saw him.

[Listener or Caller]

Better or worse? His hair just had this thing going on, but I guess worse. Worse, but wasn't. You know, he was average looking.

[Burt Show Host]

He was better looking in his picture online than he is in person. Well, imagine that. That's usually how it happens.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Did you feel any sort of, like, chemistry with him? Like, was it.

[Listener or Caller]

I think it might be more of a friend. Like, I could see myself hanging out with him a lot and just being friends. Yeah. But he does want to go out again this week.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

There's something different about this guy because the first guy you railed on, he had no problem. And now it feels like we're pulling teeth to get information out of here. Like, yeah, he was good looking.

[Listener or Caller]

Well, I don't know, I liked his style and he was cute, but I don't know.

[Burt Show Host]

At least you're giving him another chance, so something must have gone right.

[Caller (Paige)]

Yeah.

[Burt Show Panelist]

You're not supposed to.

[Listener or Caller]

Losing the buck. You might go out with him again.

[Burt Show Panelist]

You're not supposed to know after the

[Listener or Caller]

first date, you know, and we only talked about 30 minutes altogether, so.

[Burt Show Host]

Has it changed your mind at all about online dating?

[Listener or Caller]

No. That may be what is still, you know, keeping me far away because I still think it's desperate.

[Burt Show Host]

So just so you're thinking, like, the story that you might have to tell eventually that you guys met on an online date is keeping you from actually hanging out with the guy more.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Yeah.

[Listener or Caller]

Your soulmate. You're supposed to, you know, find them. Not online, not narrow searches down.

[Burt Show Panelist]

I understand her point. I don't necessarily agree, but I understand where you're coming from.

[Listener or Caller]

I think Jen should make a profile.

[Burt Show Host]

Oh, she's doing fine. You don't got to worry about.

[Burt Show Panelist]

I'm avoiding Facebook. I'm not going on online dating.

[Burt Show Host]

You don't got to worry about that. Okay, well, keep us posted. Sounds like nothing really has changed. Your attitude is still the same about it?

[Burt Show Panelist]

Nope.

[Listener or Caller]

I mean, there's some decent people on there, I'll give you that.

[Fray Band Member (Singer)]

Okay.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Are you exchanging emails with other people?

[Listener or Caller]

I haven't checked it since I went out with him, so he might be thinking I'm avoiding it because I found the one.

[Burt Show Host]

It does feel like you're holding back, honestly.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Yeah, you totally are. Something's going on.

[Burt Show Host]

Nothing.

[Listener or Caller]

No. Liar.

[Caller (Paige)]

No.

[Listener or Caller]

No.

[Burt Show Host]

Did he spend the night at your house?

[Listener or Caller]

Maybe. Did I spend the night at his.

[Burt Show Host]

Did you spend the night at his house?

[Listener or Caller]

No.

[Burt Show Host]

Something's up. I don't know. It is like pulling teeth to get any info out of you. Something up?

[Listener or Caller]

Well, I mean, there wasn't much to. I guess there's not much to. Of a story to it just because we didn't spend too much time, you know, here's.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Here's what it is. It's. She's starting to be proven wrong. So she's, you know, a little thrown by the fact that she came so strongly and said. Came so strong and said, I will die.

[Caller or Listener]

Like dating.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

I'll never find anyone. Then she goes out with this dude who's actually kind of cute and fun. He likes music and took her to a quirky movie and probably talk about, you know, ways to hide a body and other stuff that it is wrong. So she's like, huh, you're getting close

[Burt Show Host]

to having to labor Yourself desperate. If you continue to go out with this guy. Yes, you will.

[Listener or Caller]

Oh, no, I'm always right. I will never be wrong. It's desperate.

[Burt Show Host]

Well, there's one right there. You're wrong right there. You're on the Burt Show.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Listen, it's the Burt show, so I have to. I was out yesterday running around Sandy Springs, and I took a picture of something, and. And I don't know if we can talk about it on the air.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Okay.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

But I'm gonna show it to you guys.

[Burt Show Panelist]

It's not the Alcoholics Anonymous building, is it?

[Burt Show Host]

No, that wasn't yesterday.

[Burt Show Panelist]

No, that was me.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Sorry.

[Burt Show Panelist]

It's not the arson fires.

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[Burt Show Co-Host]

No, no. I was at the Jason's Deli in Sandy Springs.

[Burt Show Panelist]

I want some potato salad.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

And as I was leaving, I saw a car with a personalized license plate.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Okay.

[Howie Mandel]

Oh, did you see this?

[Burt Show Co-Host]

No, you haven't seen it yet.

[Burt Show Panelist]

I saw this.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Okay, so we're automatically. Do we automatically pass a little bit of judgment on people with personalized plates?

[Burt Show Panelist]

Yes.

[Caller (Paige)]

Yeah.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Okay. I saw a car with.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Even though I've been tempted before.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

But no, I saw a car with a personalized plate.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Okay.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

And so I swung around to see what it said because it's a long story, but I have a contest going on with someone about personalized plate.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Okay.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

That story is zero. Contest or bet contest. Okay, that part's irrelevant. What's relevant is what the license plate said.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Okay?

[Burt Show Co-Host]

So, Wendy, you've seen it. Melissa, come over here. Anybody who has not seen it, come around here. Okay, I don't know if I can reveal. Even say what this said on the air.

[Burt Show Panelist]

I don't think you can.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

I don't think this.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Oh, really?

[Burt Show Co-Host]

I don't think this license plate should be legal.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Okay.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Like, if I can't say it on the air, the license plate can't be legal, right?

[Caller or Listener]

I don't know. You think?

[Burt Show Panelist]

Oh, oh, I know what it is for.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

I know what it's for, too.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Well, when you go to get your personalized tags, they ask you the meaning of it. Like, so if you have something that's suggestive, they'll make you explain exactly what it means.

[Fray Band Member (Singer)]

Right?

[Burt Show Co-Host]

But still, that's.

[Burt Show Panelist]

That's a South Carolina fan, right?

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Yeah, but that's still not so.

[Burt Show Panelist]

If anybody's familiar with South Carolina's College Scott mascot, then you are the game.

[Burt Show Host]

Right?

[Burt Show Panelist]

But.

So you have to condense it, Right?

[Caller or Listener]

And you can't.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

You can't fit Gamecocks on a license plate, Right?

[Burt Show Panelist]

And they're fan.

So if you shorten it. Yes, say blank fan.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

But if you're in the car. If you're in the car with your child.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Yeah.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

And you're behind this Jeep, see?

[Burt Show Panelist]

Well, that Jeep, they knew. I mean, they got away with it because I'm surprised that it was allowed. The DMV allowed that to happen because. Yeah, they're usually really strict about profanity,

cuss words or anything.

Right, right. And there are certain, you know, that's what they say. South Carolina, I'm telling you, it's the University of South Carolina. And then they laugh because they got away with something.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

But there was a case or a thing that made it into the newspaper that I remember where a couple was no longer allowed to keep their personalized plates because her name was Harriet and his name was Donald. And the state that they were in, that had a little emblem in the middle. So the first three. First part of the license plate would be on the left side of the emblem. The second part, so she would use the first three letters of her name and the first three letters of his name. Then they changed the design of the license plate and they put the little emblem on the other side. So then it just became one word. So the first three letters of Harriet and the first three letters of Donald, even though there's a good reason for it, it still not an acceptable. Still not an acceptable word.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Took me a second to put it to together.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

So that being said, I mean, I. I don't care, but I'm.

[Burt Show Panelist]

I would be shocked if I saw that because I'd be.

[Fray Band Member (Joe King)]

What?

[Burt Show Co-Host]

The best part about is I called the person, I'm like, you know the contest we're having about the plates, I won.

[Burt Show Panelist]

But if you're. Yeah, but if you're not a college football fan, then you don't recognize what they. What reason they used for that plate. And I'll tell you, it can't be anything else.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Is there any better way to convince all of your straight guys that, no, they can't borrow your car because I wouldn't drive that guy's car.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Right.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

And I don't know a lot of guys that would.

[Burt Show Panelist]

I wonder. Yeah. Wonder if it would be a homosexual male who's also a South Carolina student.

Right. There's a pride. There's a lot of guys are South Carolina fans with their hats, even though they have no. They don't care about South Carolina.

[Caller (Paige)]

Gotcha.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Sounds a PI In Oregon. A lot of lesbians love Oregon State.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Hey, look it up.

[Caller (Paige)]

Yeah.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Hey, Q. Hey.

[Caller or Listener]

What's up?

[Burt Show Co-Host]

What's up?

[Caller or Listener]

Nothing much. How you guys doing this morning? Good. Love the show. I saw that. I saw it on your Facebook yesterday. And it is. I think it should be legal, but. However, I totally agree with you. I would not borrow that car under any circumstances.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Yes, that is a great way. You know how people always. If you got an suv, people like, hey, want to help me move?

[Burt Show Panelist]

Move.

Right.

[Burt Show Co-Host]

Not this guy.

[Burt Show Host]

Listen, it's the Birch show.

[Burt Show Panelist]

Can you grab one more thing?

[Fray Band Member (Ben Wysocki)]

I'll come back up for you.

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