Full Show PT 2: Tuesday, October 28 [Vault]

Summary

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The Bert Show – Full Show PT 2: Tuesday, October 28 [Vault]

Date: October 28, 2025
Podcast Host: Pionaire Podcasting
Primary Hosts/Voices: Bert (Adam), Kristin (Lindsey), Jeff, Cassie, Tommy, Tracy, Knox, Christian
Special Guest: Cher

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Episode Overview

This vibrant and comedic episode of The Bert Show brings listeners a mix of deeply personal stories, dramatic listener moments, playful dating banter, and a star-powered guest interview with Cher. The cast’s authentic, conversational style immerses the audience in everything from "War of the Roses" relationship drama to surprisingly candid medical anecdotes, a heartfelt discussion with Cher about her music, life, family, and legacy, and some classic Bert Show dating dilemmas with intern Tracy.

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Key Segments & Highlights

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1. War of the Roses: Cheating Drama with a Family Twist (01:44–05:56)

• Summary:
  The classic “War of the Roses” segment: Autumn suspects her boyfriend Christian of cheating and sets up a flower delivery test live on air. The twist? Christian sends the roses to April—Autumn’s 18-year-old sister.
• Key Moments & Quotes:
  • Lindsey (posing as florist): "Who would you like to send the roses to?"
  • Christian: "Let me send it to April." (02:52)
  • Autumn’s confrontation is raw and emotional, exposing a jaw-dropping betrayal.
  • Autumn: "That is my 18 year old sister. A guy who's practically half your age … you should have just told me about this. You didn't have to go by my back. And my sister." (03:40)
  • Christian: "It's over, Christian, in case you hadn't noticed." (04:21)
  • Host’s empathy:
    • Adam: "Sometimes, just… closure, you know, will help you out." (05:25)
    • Christian: "It's better to know who you can trust and who you can't. So this is a hard lesson" (05:34)
• Takeaway:
  A shocking segment balancing radio drama with real emotional fallout, ending with empathy and some awkward humor.

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2. Unfiltered Medical Confessions: The "Booty Region" Anxiety (05:58–11:15)

• Summary:
  Adam confides in the team about his anxiety over getting prostate exams, tracing his discomfort back to a childhood medical issue (rectal atresia).
• Key Moments & Quotes:
  • Adam: "Mine happens to be thy whole booty region ... I have to go in for the full on check up again today." (05:58)
  • Adam’s childhood ordeal: "I was born with a really, really teeny rosebud and my dad had to stretch it with his pinky every night when I was a kid in order for me to poop." (06:29)
  • The team offers comic relief, joking about the gender differences in medical exams:
    • Jeff: "It's because women don't have prostates." (06:22)
    • Lindsey: "Gynecological exams are probably the most painful there is … They crank it all open ... the jaws of life inside you." (08:12–08:24)
  • The story becomes a group riff, leaning into the show's trademark balance of cringe, laughter, and group support.
• Notable Quote:
  • Jeff: "I think you can make the promise never to mock someone until they share the story of their dad's digit in your ass." (10:21)

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3. Cher Interview: Fame, Family, and Fierce Individuality (11:15–21:49)

(Segment starts with Jeff’s introduction and spans a range of personal and career topics)

Key Discussion Points & Insights

• Cher’s Early Years

  • Story of her wedding band: Found by chance, leading to a fan returning it to her.
    • Christian: "It was in the dirt ... he picked it up and threw it in his pocket." (11:49–12:17)

• Meeting Sonny Bono

  • Dispels rumors: Sonny was not a meat delivery man when they met, but a music promoter.
  • First impression: "I have to say, I was just mesmerized. He had a Caesar haircut … and beetle boots on. … I just was fascinated with him." (13:28–13:56)

• Sonny Bono’s Death and Eulogy

  • Cher reflects on the grief and her lack of experience with loss:
    • Christian: "I was completely unprepared for it, and I'd never had that feeling before." (14:01)

• Enduring Fame & Reinvention

  • Discusses longevity in show business:
    • Christian: "I think it's luck. I don't have any answers … sometimes people, you've just been around for so long, and people just know everything about you." (16:02)

• Media Scrutiny and Privacy

  • Christian: "Sometimes it's, like, about the tabloids that they won't leave me alone...sometimes I just go away, and you don't hear about me...then when I'm ready, I come back." (16:41–17:04)

• Candid Discussion on Daughter Chastity (Chaz) Coming Out

  • Cher describes the challenge of learning her child was gay and surprising herself with her initial reaction, despite lifelong LGBT support.
    • Christian: "You really are called to believe what you...you really have to know that you believe what you say you believe. … It took me a while ... honestly." (18:26)
  • Advice for others:
    • Christian: "For the kids, I would break it to the person in your family that you think is going to be the most receptive and then work backwards." (19:12)
    • Christian: "For parents ... you have to remember that you really love your children, and they are basically the same people, and they really need your support." (19:35–20:09)

• Cher and the Gay Community

  • Christian: "Gay guys either like you or they don't. … there's something else that happens. … I'm not so sure that's enough." (20:12 – 20:35)

• Rapid-Fire “True or False” and Career Reflections

  • Thelma and Louise: Was offered the film, but turned it down:
    • Christian: "Yeah, I actually turned it down because I didn't like the ending. So that was really stupid." (20:38)
  • Dyslexia: Confirmed, but managed thanks to a photographic memory.
    • Christian: "I have to read really slowly. But once I read something, I pretty much can commit it to memory." (20:51–21:10)
  • Napster: Bad for the industry; felt like “the rug pulled out from under you.” (21:13–21:14)

• Still Thrilled by Hearing Her Songs on Radio

  • Christian: "I'm always thrilled. I mean, I always get excited when I hear a song on the radio." (21:37)

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4. Dating Segment: Tracy's Band Guy Crush (22:19–30:22)

• Summary:
  Intern Tracy reveals her long-standing crush on a guy in a band. The segment mixes advice, playful teasing, and dating strategy.
• Key Moments & Quotes:
  • Adam’s sports analogy: "This is like the super bowl of dating for her." (23:27)
  • Tracy on her attraction: “She will not look at a guy unless he has a guitar in his hand. Drumsticks ... that'll work too.” (22:57 – 22:59)
  • The big letdown: The long-awaited date is postponed because the guy claims to have the flu, though he proposes future plans.
  • Host’s advice:
    • Adam: "I think what you have to do is ignore him. I think you have to totally keep him on his toes and make him chase you." (29:12)
    • Tracy: "I'm totally into games. ... I'm not gonna call you back every time you call me, and I don't call guys. Usually they have to call me, keep them on his toes." (30:03–30:14)
    • The crew humorously discusses playing “hard to get” and even joke about ego-boosting for radio personalities.
• Takeaway:
  A lighthearted, relatable exploration of modern dating dynamics, delivered with trademark Bert Show wit and teasing.

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Notable Quotes (With Timestamps)

• "That's your sister?"
  — Adam, in shock as Christian names his girlfriend’s sister for the flowers. (03:38)

• "It's better to know who you can trust and who you can't. So this is a hard lesson, but..."
  — Christian (the scorned girlfriend), reflecting on being cheated on. (05:34)

• "I was born with a really, really teeny rosebud and my dad had to stretch it with his pinky every night when I was a kid in order for me to poop."
  — Adam, on why he dreads prostate exams. (06:29)

• "I was just mesmerized ... he had beetle boots on ... I just was fascinated with him."
  — Cher (Christian), on meeting Sonny Bono. (13:28–13:56)

• "You really are called to believe what you...you really have to know that you believe what you say you believe. ... it took me a while, honestly."
  — Cher (Christian) on accepting her child coming out. (18:26)

• "For parents ... you have to remember that you really love your children ... they really need your support."
  — Cher (Christian), on advice for parents. (19:35)

• "I think it's luck. I don't have any answers for that because I'm amazed myself."
  — Cher (Christian), on sustaining her career. (16:02)

• "Gay guys either like you or they don't … There's something else that happens."
  — Cher (Christian), on her gay icon status. (20:12)

• "She will not look at a guy unless he has a guitar in his hand. Drumsticks ... that'll work too."
  — Adam & Tracy, on Tracy’s dating type. (22:57-22:59)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:44–05:56 – War of the Roses: Infidelity scandal and aftermath
• 05:58–11:15 – Adam’s medical confession/prostate anxiety story
• 11:15–21:49 – Interview with Cher: her career, relationships, family, and industry insight
• 22:19–30:22 – Tracy’s dating woes and advice segment

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Tone & Style

The Bert Show’s trademark blend of realness and goofiness runs through the whole episode, balancing dramatic revelations, candor, and humor. The interview with Cher is respectful and probing yet maintains a conversational and playful style. The camaraderie among the hosts is warm but laden with tease and comic relief—even in moments of sincere vulnerability or heartache.

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Summary Takeaways

• Dramatic Listener Stories: War of the Roses delivers a jaw-dropping cheating twist that is both shocking and oddly cathartic for everyone involved.
• Vulnerability as Comedy: Adam’s medical woes are aired unfiltered, allowing humor to diffuse embarrassment and foster connection.
• Celebrity Depth: Cher’s interview covers everything from love and loss to the intricacies of public and private identity, offering sage advice on acceptance and survival in the spotlight.
• Everyday Dating Dramas: Tracy’s dilemma is a familiar, light-hearted tale of crushes, delays, and how to be (or not to be) "hard to get."

This episode encapsulates why The Bert Show is so beloved: real stories, celebrity access, and genuine laughs, always inviting listeners into their irreverent, supportive world.

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Transcript

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[Adam]

Hey, the Birch show in this War of the Roses again, she's trying to catch her man cheating on her, so she calls him on the air. Frankly, I don't know why you guys do this, but I sure am glad you do. And the conclusion to this one we never saw coming.

[Lindsey]

Hello, may I please speak with Christian?

[Christian]

Speaking.

[Lindsey]

Christian, hi, this is Lindsey from the Petal Posse. How are you?

[Christian]

Hey how are you?

[Lindsey]

I'm good. Actually, we're a new flower shop in the area and your name came up in our database. So we are giving you free flowers and you can send them to someone. Are you interested in receiving free flowers?

[Christian]

Oh, that's free.

[Lindsey]

Yeah, totally free. It's actually a dozen long stem red roses. And like I said, we're a brand new shop in the area. We're just looking for more business. So hopefully, you know, you might recommend us if you do. If you don't, it's no big deal. We're just trying to get our name out there.

[Christian]

Hey, sure, why not? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lindsey]

Wonderful. Okay, first I need to fill out a card. Christian, first of all, who would you like to send the roses to?

[Christian]

Oh, okay. Yeah, let me send it to April.

[Lindsey]

April. Okay. And Christian, what would you like the card to say?

[Christian]

Thoughts of you. Thinking of you.

[Lindsey]

Thoughts of you. Thinking of you. Okay.

[Christian]

Yeah, just thinking of you, Christian.

[Lindsey]

Thinking of you, Christian.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Lindsey]

Gotcha.

[Adam]

Hey, Christian.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Hi, this is bert calling from Q100 radio.

[Christian]

Okay.

[Adam]

Hey, how you doing?

[Christian]

Good. How you doing?

[Adam]

Good, man. We have Autumn on the line with us.

[Christian]

You. You're going to send my sister flowers? Hello, Christian. I know what you've been up to. Now, you.

[Adam]

That's your sister?

[Christian]

That is my 18 year old sister. A guy who's practically half your age. Christian, you know, you should have just told me about this. You didn't have to go by my back. And my sister.

[Adam]

Hey, Chris. Hey, Christian. Yeah, Autumn kind of thought that there was something going on with you and somebody else. She didn't know who it was. And she sent you these roses hoping that you would send them back to her. And you just sent them to her sister and she's been listening to the whole thing.

[Christian]

I can't believe you.

[Adam]

The reason why you're sending them to her sister?

[Christian]

I don't know. I know. No, it's over, Christian, in case you hadn't noticed.

[Adam]

Autumn, are you there?

[Christian]

Yeah, I'm here. I've been better. But I tell you what.

[Adam]

You know, I am so sorry.

[Lindsey]

I'm so sorry, Adam.

[Christian]

Me too. You know what? My sister. Oh, she gonna have some explaining to do. I tell you what.

[Adam]

When has he met your sister?

[Christian]

Well, you know, we've been together for nine months. We went to Christmas dinner with everybody and New Year's Eve, we all went out. You know, she's a kid. We took her out with us. Got our fake ID and everything. It was really unbelievable.

[Adam]

How old is he?

[Christian]

He's 30. 4 years old.

[Adam]

Oh, man, that's so not good.

[Christian]

I thought this was the one. Well, I guess it's good to know that.

[Adam]

I am so sorry. That really, really sucks.

[Lindsey]

That's probably the worst news you can get.

[Christian]

Well, I tell you what, guys. You have really brightened my day. At least I know we're not to be going, so thanks very much.

[Adam]

Sometimes, you know, just you've had that feeling, so. God, maybe some somehow the closure, you know, will help you out.

[Co-host/Guest]

It's better to know.

[Christian]

It's better to know, you know. It's better to know who you can trust and who you can't. So this is a hard lesson, but.

[Adam]

I'll tell you what we. I'll tell you what we are gonna do. I know this is it. This is very small, but we're gonna go ahead and turn around and we're gonna send you the roses from Kroger.

[Christian]

Okay, thanks. Thanks very much, Adam.

[Lindsey]

You stay strong, okay?

[Christian]

I will.

[Adam]

Sorry.

[Christian]

Okay, Have a good one.

[Adam]

Talk to you later.

[Christian]

Bye. Bye.

[Adam]

Hey, the bird show. Everybody has their insecurities. Mine happens to be thy whole booty region. And with good reason. I have to go in for the full on check up again today.

[Jeff]

You get the bum touch.

[Adam]

That means you go on it and. Yep.

[Co-host/Guest]

I have never.

[Adam]

Booty test.

[Co-host/Guest]

It was the booty test because, you know, I've had physicals before and I've never had to have anybody insert anything up my.

[Adam]

It sucks.

[Jeff]

Well, it's because women don't have prostates.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, it's. It says the prostate test. Okay.

[Lindsey]

You are gonna enjoy that test.

[Adam]

I told. I told these guys before and they promised not to make fun of me, that that whole region is very sensitive to me because when I was much younger. Much younger, Jeff. Like almost an infant. 18. No, that I was born with a really, really teeny rosebud and my dad had to stretch it with his pinky every night when I was a kid in order for me to poop. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I told this story before, so now I hate any. I hate anything associated with that region. Man. Are you sure he had to do it? Yeah. That's not something you volunteer for.

[Jeff]

Well, I'm saying somebody really.

[Hers Medication Rep]

Hey.

[Jeff]

Stretch your son's rose.

[Adam]

Yeah, they tried enemas for a while. They weren't working and all that, so. Yeah, he had to vast. Yeah, it was hard to.

[Lindsey]

Orson Welles film.

[Adam]

You're standing at Backstreet all the time.

[Jeff]

I don't know.

[Adam]

It's awful.

[Lindsey]

Awful.

[Jeff]

Now your dad having to do it is A stretch because I have seen her head.

[Tracy]

She said stretch.

[Jeff]

Because. Because I have seen the ads in the back of Creative Loafing, and there are plenty of people who would do that.

[Adam]

Awful. Awful. I mean, it happened when I was, like, seriously, like, infant to three. It was like, three years. And I still remember the. I can remember the panic.

[Co-host/Guest]

So you're first gonna say to the doctor, no, daddy, don't today.

[Jeff]

You know what? You know, women are always talking about how bad they got it with the pregnancy and, you know, the monthly thing and all that and the mood swings. But you know what? Don't you think God was playing a pretty mean joke when he took the prostate and put it inside your ass?

[Tracy]

Well, you know, what, do you want.

[Adam]

It on top of your forehead?

[Jeff]

Well, you know, it could be anywhere more convenient. Why couldn't it be under your tongue?

[Co-host/Guest]

How often do you have to do the prostate?

[Adam]

Prostate check once a year for a physical.

[Co-host/Guest]

So that's kind of equal to the gynecological exam there, Jeff.

[Lindsey]

Yeah, and don't. Let's not. Let's not. Come on. Gynecological exams are probably the most painful there is. No, there is a call something called a pap smear. That's not fun.

[Co-host/Guest]

What is it that you call the.

[Lindsey]

Aren't the things where they crank it all open. Yeah, Wrench. And the jaws of life inside of you. You have to get a gynecological exam. Yeah, they.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, they stretch out.

[Adam]

Yeah, I know. I already know the feeling. I already.

[Jeff]

He had it happen to him in 12 months.

[Adam]

There is no more panic for me than. Because I think it's a yearly check where they do it. Maybe it's not because I knew it is. I know that there are certain times where I'll go into the doctor's office and I'm unsure if they're gonna do it or not. And the doctor knows ahead if he's gonna have to perform that. So when I open up the doctor's door, you know, you get out of the lobby and he brings you over to the little examining room, and you have to sit there and, you know, think about it for an hour before he comes in there. When you open up the door, generally they have, like, a big pile of KY on. On a paper towel. And once you see that, and there's a rubber glove right next to it, and once you see that, you know, game on. And that's when the panic just upset.

[Jeff]

Man, you know what?

[Adam]

I would hate it.

[Lindsey]

I would try to enjoy it the next time you get it. Done.

[Jeff]

Oh, yeah. Put on some mood music and light a candle.

[Adam]

It sucks, man.

[Jeff]

Light a candle. Where?

[Adam]

Stacy, my wife, to this day has still not seen my booty. I am so sensitive to that whole region. He said whole morning. Yes, hello.

[Knox]

Hello.

[Christian]

I'm just coming off of work from Earthlink, and we're getting on 285, and I'm hearing you talk about your father, who's Pinky, and you're. Oh, my God. I can't believe he said that on radio. Can't believe it.

[Adam]

Well, I only said it because they made a promise that they would never make fun of me because I shared something so embarrassing.

[Christian]

Whatever. I'm laughing at you right now.

[Adam]

All bets are off.

[Jeff]

You know, I think you can make the promise never to mock someone until they share the story of their dad's digit in your ass. And then, like, I don't think there's.

[Adam]

Any way you think, like, my kids will express it that way, too. Daddy, tell me the digit in the ass story again.

[Jeff]

That's a new sitcom on Fox. Do you think maybe that has a reason that there's tension between you and your father?

[Adam]

There's far more than that, but I think it's probably where it started. I remember my mom came in with these big red enema bags. Man, to this day.

[Jeff]

Were they like the big Acme size?

[Adam]

It felt like it, you know. Cause at three years old, I mean, they look like they were, you know, like the size of a satellite. Oh, my God.

[Jeff]

Every night you said infant.

[Adam]

Not until three.

[Knox]

Three years.

[Jeff]

Stretching your ass at age three years.

[Adam]

Now you know why I hate going in and getting that test. I'm so sensitive to that area.

[Jeff]

Is that the average time to stretch out a rectum? 36 months?

[Adam]

I don't know. Go to google.com. the first show. Here's a woman that's been generating music in four different decades. She's constantly in the media spotlight. She's been nominated for Oscars, she's won Grammys. And now she's reached the apex. She joined the Burt Show. This is Cher on Q100. Hey, Cher.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Thank you for joining us. We missed you on Friday.

[Christian]

I know. I'm sorry.

[Jeff]

I remember talking to you at another radio station a couple years ago and hearing a great story about. Was it your wedding band and Rick D's?

[Christian]

Oh, that's right. I was on the show, and people were calling in, and this woman called in and she said, I think I have your original wedding band. And I thought, oh, you know, how could that Possibly be. And then we met, and her husband had found it. He had been doing some work at our old house. Sonny actually was remodeling. I didn't live there anymore. And he found it out by a dumpster. It was, like, in the dirt. And he picked it up and threw it in his pocket.

[Adam]

Wow.

[Jeff]

And how did she know it was yours? Was it engraved?

[Christian]

Oh, no, it said Sonny on it. Because when Sonny and I were first, I had a ring that said Sonny. He had a ring that said Cher, and they were in silver. Then later we got them in gold. We just put them then in a box, and somehow this woman's husband found it. It got ripped out under the carpet, and the guys just threw it away because, you know, it was just kind of a funky silver ring.

[Adam]

Is it true that when you met Sonny, he was a meat delivery man?

[Christian]

No, he had been. When I met him, he was a promotion man. He worked for Phil Spector. He had hauled meat, you know, the freeways to Disneyland. But of course, you wouldn't know the freeways to. But he had helped pull out some of the freeways to Disneyland with Clint Eastwood.

[Adam]

Oh, no. Is that right?

[Jeff]

That's wild.

[Adam]

What was your first impression when you laid eyes on him? Because at looking at you two as a couple, I'm telling you, it wouldn't be a couple that you would think would be together physically.

[Christian]

Let's see. I was at a radio station. I was downstairs from a radio station called kfwb. Sonny walked in. I was sitting with some promotion people and a guy named Wink Martindale, who was a jockey on kfwb.

[Adam]

Tic tac toe. I remember him in his T roll.

[Christian]

Son walked in and everybody said, oh, look, there's Sonny. There's Sonny. And I turned around and looked at him, and I just was. I have to say, I was just mesmerized because he didn't have really long hair, but he had ridiculously strange long hair for the time. He had a Caesar haircut, which was, like, pointy coming down on his face. And he had beetle boots on. And I'd never even heard of the Beatles. And he had. I mean, he just was dressed like no one I'd ever seen. And I just was fascinated with him.

[Adam]

Would it be safe to say that one of the most painful days that you've ever had was the day that Sonny died?

[Christian]

I actually had. I've never been. I was never really that close to anyone who died. I mean, I haven't had that many deaths around me. And so I was completely unprepared for it, and I'd never had that feeling before.

[Co-host/Guest]

That was a fantastic eulogy you gave at his service, by the way.

[Christian]

Thanks.

[Co-host/Guest]

I think a lot of people were in touch with that, but of course, because of course, when you think of Sonny, you think of Cher.

[Christian]

You kind of do.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah. I mean, even though you live separate lives, you know, at that point, I think that people still find the memories of the two of you together to be, you know, quite charming.

[Christian]

On Valentine's Day, I went to this thing for Bono. It was a huge gathering, couple of, I mean, maybe 5,000 people. And it was to honor him for the Heart Association. When I got there, the guys from REM Said, come backstage. And when I went backstage, they were all sitting around with guitars and they said, okay, this is what we're going to do. We're going to sing I Got yout Babe for him. And I said, well, you know, I've never really sung I Got yout Babe with anyone but Sonny. I said, well, you know, once with Beavis and Butthead, but that was a cartoon.

[Adam]

I wasn't, like, doing it.

[Christian]

So I said, I'm not sure I'd be able to do it. They went, no, no, you'll be able to do it. And then they told me this story about one time Bono was in an elevator, and there was this guy in the elevator and neither one of them looked at each other. And then elevator opened and the guy got off and he turned around and he looked at him and he went, you pronounce it Bono. And it was sunny. That story was so charming. I said, okay, I'll do it. So we sang I Got you babe to Bono. And it was really great.

[Adam]

What is really the secret behind being a Cher or a Madonna, somebody that can generate hits and generate talk? I mean, we're talking about four or five decades now where you're in an industry of so many one hit wonders and so many Fly By Night musicians. You've been able to somehow evolve and capture people and their attention for so long. Is that a gift you have or is that the product of good marketing? What do you contribute that to?

[Christian]

I think it's luck. I don't have any answers for that because I'm amazed myself. I mean, for a while, you know, I went off into another part of my career where I just, you know, start acting. And I think that made people interested for, you know, that made them kind of. I mean, look, we went from music to tv and then I went to acting and I Don't know. I think sometimes people. You've just been around so long, and people just know everything about you. And, you know, I've been around for. I mean, if you had come to the Believe concert, you would have seen, like, old grandmothers and kids 3 years old. It was kind of amazing to me.

[Lindsey]

Has there ever been a point, though, when you've said, all right, I'm sick of the public knowing about my private life, Everything?

[Christian]

Well, yeah, I mean, I've gotten to that point millions of times, and it's not so much about. It's not really so much about the public. Sometimes it's, like, about the tabloids that they won't leave me alone, or they. You know, I've had boyfriends that they just hounded us and said horrible things. And if you've noticed, sometimes I just go away and just. You don't hear about me for, you know, a year or two. And then I. Then when I'm ready, I come back.

[Jeff]

Get it?

[Adam]

The Bird Show. When we talked to Cher, she pretty much gave us exactly what we were looking for. She was down to earth, open about everything in her life, and is embarrassed about nothing. This is Cher on the Burt show on Q100. I was on the Internet yesterday doing a little research on what was going on in your life, and I ran into what I consider a fantastic article by your daughter, Chastity. And she was interviewing you for the Advocate.

[Christian]

Right.

[Adam]

As honest an interview as I have ever read. And you were so incredibly honest with her about your feelings when she first told you that she was a lesbian. I just felt, reading the thing, that you two were so connected. But then. And I came in and I told the guys about it this morning, and they said that maybe they thought that you guys were estranged again. And I said, that can't be.

[Christian]

No, I mean. And also, that article was. It was so strange to be interviewed by your daughter because there's no way you can lie, first of all. You just don't do it. You know, you try not to. I always try to tell the truth in interviews. But with Chaz, it was especially, you know, like, she knew the right questions and, you know, and she has been there for the whole time. So.

[Adam]

So for those of you that don't know when. When you found out that your daughter was a lesbian and I guess it was one of the tabloids that really called her out. Right?

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Adam]

You had a different reaction than you thought you might, right?

[Christian]

Oh, I had kind of. As I said, I had a very unchair like, reaction because I have so many gay friends. But I think it's different. You really are called to believe what you. You know, like, you really have to know that you believe what you say you believe. And it took me a while, you know, to really get to that point, honestly, to say, you know, this is. This doesn't bother me. I'm fine with it. And I thought that that would have been something that would have just happened immediately, but it really didn't. So Jas thought it was really important, too, for other parents. So that's why we really did that article.

[Adam]

Cher, if you had to give advice to the parents of not even suspecting now that their children are going to tell them this weekend that they're gay, what advice would you give to the parents, and what advice would you give to the kids, how they should break it to their folks?

[Christian]

Well, first, for the kids, I would break it to the person in your family that you think is going to be the most receptive and then work backwards. If you have an uncle or a brother or a sister, someone that you think is really going to be the most receptive, because it's such a hard thing to tell anyone that you have to try to pick someone who's going to at least be the most on your side. And then for parents, you know, it's a difficult thing. But you have to remember that you really love your children, and they are basically the same people, and that they really need your support. So, you know, you have to take a deep breath and kind of sit back and go slowly and try not to overreact. I mean, which is what I must say I did. The rough thing for me was that everyone in. And my family had known about it, and I was the last person. So I think a lot of it for me, too, was not being in the. In the loop, so to speak.

[Adam]

Hey, Cher, why has the. The gay community embraced you so?

[Christian]

Well, gay guys either like you or they don't. I don't know if you can really tell. Why? It's just something that, you know, they just either bond with you or they don't.

[Co-host/Guest]

She's got fabulous clothes, a fabulous attitude, and fabulous songs. So that's why they.

[Christian]

I'm not so sure that's enough. You know, there's something else that happens. I mean, it doesn't hurt for sure. I think that it's not exactly. It's not exactly enough.

[Co-host/Guest]

Right.

[Adam]

True or false? You were supposed to be in Thelma and Louise.

[Christian]

Yeah, I actually turned it down because I didn't like the ending. So that was really stupid. But if they belong to you, they come to you, and if not, they don't. So obviously that just didn't.

[Adam]

True or false you have dyslexia?

[Christian]

True.

[Adam]

True. That's gotta be tough.

[Co-host/Guest]

How frustrating is that when you have to read a script or something?

[Christian]

I also have kind of a photographic memory. I get confused when I'm dialing long distance because I always transfer the numbers I have to read really slowly. But once I read something, I pretty much can commit it to memory. So scripts are kind of easy for me.

[Adam]

Was Napster a good thing or a bad thing for people in your industry?

[Christian]

It was a bad thing.

[Adam]

Really bad thing.

[Christian]

Yeah, it was kind of rough because it's like other people get paid for their work. Everyone. I mean, you do a job and you get paid for it. Napster kind of just pulled a rug right out from under you.

[Adam]

Is it still cool, like, I mean, when you're driving down the road and you hear Song for the Lonely, your new single after all these years is it still a blast to hear yourself on the radio or is it just, ho hum, I'll change to another station now?

[Christian]

I don't. I think kind of, the more you go, especially after your kind of sell by date, you know, it gets more amazing to you. And I'm always thrilled. I mean, I always get excited when I hear a song on the radio.

[Adam]

Cher. Totally awesome talking to you this morning. It was well worth the Friday.

[Christian]

I'm glad I got back to you guys. And I'm sorry about Friday.

[Adam]

It's okay. Thanks so much, Sharon. Good luck with the new cd. Bye. Now you're on the Birch. You know how when you're dating you look for Mr. Or Mrs. Right? Everybody has characteristics that you're looking for in somebody else. Well, our intern, Tracy, is attracted to one type of guy and one type of guy only. You have to be in a band. Tracy, the intern?

[Tracy]

Yep.

[Adam]

Yesterday told us that she has been kind. She has been watching a guy for about three and a half years.

[Tracy]

I'm not stalking him.

[Adam]

Not stalking, but just from afar.

[Tracy]

Yeah, I've known him for three and a half years. I went out with his roommate, like, twice. And then I developed this huge crush on him. But he's always had a girlfriend, so we're not gonna mention any names. He doesn't anymore, but just in case.

[Jeff]

Can you tell us what band he's in?

[Adam]

Well, that would give it away, wouldn't it?

[Tracy]

Yeah, that would probably give it away too. But he is In a band, so.

[Adam]

Of course he is.

[Co-host/Guest]

Of course.

[Jeff]

Oh, really? There was a chance he dated somebody who's not in a band.

[Tracy]

Most of the guys I have dated seriously weren't in bands. It's just the ones I met.

[Jeff]

Well, they were roadies. And you were just hoping to get into a dressing room.

[Adam]

Okay, Tracy will not look at a guy unless he has a guitar in his hand.

[Tracy]

Drumsticks.

[Adam]

Drumsticks, whatever.

[Tracy]

That'll work too.

[Jeff]

But if you carry speakers for a big enough band, she'll look at you too.

[Adam]

So for three years, you've been watching this guy. You're thinking, oh, he's so hot. He's so cute.

[Tracy]

I mean, I didn't see him all the time. Like, I would see him every couple of months and then hope that, you know, a couple months had passed and they had broken up, but they never had. So I saw him Tuesday night. I hung out with him because he played. So I went down there and I was supposed to hang out with him last night. But instead of having a story, I need advice.

[Adam]

Okay. It was supposed to be a big deal yesterday because she came in here and she said how excited she was. This is like the super bowl of dating for her. Yeah. She's been waiting for this guy for three and a half years, and it.

[Tracy]

Was finally gonna happen.

[Adam]

And I couldn't wait to hear about the date. This is it.

[Tracy]

It was gonna be huge.

[Adam]

Kickoff. Last night was supposed to be at 8 o' clock and it never even happened.

[Tracy]

Well, here's what happened, okay?

[Adam]

It all comes down to a sports analogy for a guy. You know that, right? I love it.

[Tracy]

So I showed up Tuesday night and he was all excited to see me. And, I mean, all of his friends were there, but he paid more attention to me than he did to anybody else. Came up, gave me a huge hug, was standing there talking to me, got on stage, played. Soon as he got off stage, I was the first person he came and talked to. Stood there, went around, said hi to everybody else, felt great and came right.

[Adam]

Came right.

[Tracy]

What are you making fun of me?

[Jeff]

He's still stage sweaty and he's talking to me.

[Adam]

That was the first one.

[Lindsey]

It's stage sweat.

[Tracy]

It's different than normal sweat.

[Jeff]

Did he give you his pick? Hey, baby. Thank you for coming out to the show. Excuse me one minute.

[Tracy]

I need to go towel on the story.

[Adam]

Then I was on tonight, wasn't I, darling? And I'll tell you why. Cause I played a little extra hard. Cause I saw you in the front row.

[Christian]

Okay?

[Tracy]

I'm done with my story now.

[Jeff]

Did you go to this concert alone?

[Tracy]

No, my friend Tara went with you.

[Adam]

She had a wingman with her.

[Jeff]

Did you do the.

[Tracy]

You can't go by herself.

[Jeff]

He came down off stage, and he was toweling himself off, and he flicked his pics out to the audience. Here you go. And then you saw him coming at you, and you say, tara, go away.

[Adam]

Go, go, go. Go away.

[Co-host/Guest]

Go away.

[Adam]

Go away.

[Christian]

Go, go.

[Adam]

Did he give you the sweaty ha. Oh, rock and roll hair.

[Tracy]

Okay, you guys, 1986. You guys are the biggest nerds. She's not dating someone from Kiss. She has a hairband.

[Jeff]

At any point during the show, did he say, I wrote this one for you? In point down to the. You know, the gaggle of groupy women down in the front corner of the stage. I wrote this one just for you. And you guys all at the same time went.

[Tracy]

It broke into a Journey cover.

[Jeff]

Every rose has its doubts.

[Co-host/Guest]

No.

[Adam]

So he comes off stage, and you're the first group he comes to. Does he know? I mean, first girl he comes to, right?

[Tracy]

He says hi to everybody else, and he comes right back to me. And my friend Tara's like, yeah, he likes you. And like I said, three years ago, I went out with his roommate twice. And then he mentioned to me that this person is now getting married, which was really shocking to all of us. And he said, yeah, we all just assumed I would be the first one to get married. So I was like, well, yeah, because, you know, you have a girlfriend. You always have. And he's like, well, you haven't talked to me in a while. So then I was all excited.

[Adam]

Green light, big time green light right there.

[Tracy]

Doesn't have a girlfriend anymore.

[Lindsey]

Tracy rips off her shirt, starts rubbing her chest.

[Jeff]

She elbows the four other groupies off him, and she's like, I'm ready to go.

[Tracy]

No. And then he starts asking me. He's like, well, what about you? Who are you seeing?

[Knox]

You.

[Adam]

I am seeing you. And I have been for three years. You just don't know it. We have no lives. Hey, tell this morning here I've been dating you. Look at all the pictures that I've altered digitally.

[Jeff]

Look.

[Co-host/Guest]

And I've already set the wedding date. I hope you don't mind.

[Adam]

Okay, go on.

[Tracy]

So then he starts asking me who I was dating. And I was like, nobody. And then, so, yeah, so he got a little bit more flirty, and he asked me what I was doing Monday night. And I said, I don't know why he's like, well, do you want to hang out Monday night? And I was like, yeah. He's like, really? You want to.

[Adam]

Was he playing a gig or was it just like you and him going out?

[Tracy]

He was just coming to town.

[Jeff]

Me and the guys are getting together to work out a new sound, and I was thinking maybe you'd want to combine. Just hang out.

[Adam]

You want to sit in on a jam session. Okay, so you made plans to go out last night. I'm sure he's going to take you to Fud Ruckers or whatever.

[Jeff]

To pick him up after he finishes waitering at Chili's.

[Christian]

He's not.

[Tracy]

He doesn't.

[Lindsey]

No.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Lindsey]

Poor Tracy.

[Tracy]

Anyhow, okay, so that was Tuesday night. And he said that he would call me within the next few days just to make sure that, you know, that he was definitely coming to town and we were gonna hang out Monday night.

[Adam]

I'll give you a jingle, baby. Ciao.

[Tracy]

So I'm thinking you guys are making this so much worse than today.

[Jeff]

Any chance you had of actually having a date with him has now been completely crushed.

[Adam]

He didn't listen to us. He's far too hip for us.

[Tracy]

Yeah, exactly. So Saturday, he calls me and I got a message and he said, you know, hey, I'm coming to Atlanta. I'm gonna hang out with some friends. Just wanted to know what you're up to. So maybe I'll call you later. But either way, I just wanna say that Monday night's awesome for me. I hope it'll work for you. And then I didn't call him back that night. Cause I figured he's leaving. I'm not gonna be able to get in touch with him. So I called him the next day and I was just like, hey, it's me. I'm calling you back. Give me a call. And then I got an email yesterday saying he has the flu and he wasn't coming to town afterwards. Oh, man. But he did give me rattle off a list of all of these days he was gonna be here and hopefully sometime in between. And he still really wants to hang out.

[Adam]

Well, I mean, you've given the guy three and a half years. You can certainly give him another couple of weeks.

[Tracy]

I know, but it sounds like he must like me, right? Like, why would he go in okay, now?

[Adam]

Oh, yeah, definitely. He's so into you.

[Lindsey]

No, he seems pretty insane. Well, then why would.

[Tracy]

But why would he even bother saying let's hang out to begin with? And why would he have called me Saturday night?

[Adam]

Yes, he could. Very Much. I think he likes you. So why don't you email him back today and go, you know, I'm working at Q100. I'm a really big deal, and I have a lot of events coming up, so why don't we try to, you know, pigeonhole a date right now?

[Tracy]

So you'll make me out to be a bigger deal when you meet him?

[Adam]

Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. This is gonna be the Tracy show. We're gonna have jingles made and everything.

[Tracy]

For real?

[Adam]

Yeah, sure, Tracy.

[Lindsey]

We will.

[Adam]

Obviously.

[Jeff]

We'll get her in that.

[Lindsey]

You look so good. Not that you don't look good. We will make you look so flat.

[Tracy]

Okay, so if I pull the radio card, you'll totally back me up on it?

[Adam]

Oh, sure. Here's the thing. I think with a guy. Cause again, you know, I really believe that dating is a ch. And as much as we say that we want pure honesty from the start, I think that's crap. I think there's a certain amount of head games that goes into every bit of dating, at least in the first couple of weeks. You know, I think with a guy that's in a rock band, I think what you have to do is ignore him. I think you have to totally keep him on his toes and make him chase you. So I think you call him back and you say something like, yeah, not a big deal. Just call me when you get around to it.

[Hers Medication Rep]

Well, that's right.

[Tracy]

Well, I didn't even call him. I just emailed him back, and I'm like, okay, yeah, no problem. Just let me know when you're in town.

[Adam]

Yeah, that's cool. Play Totally live. It's like, it's not a big deal.

[Jeff]

I definitely think you're on the right track. When you had the business cards made up that said executive assistant to Leslie Pran, I definitely think that's two steps in the right direction with him.

[Adam]

In fact, I think the next time you guys make a date, I think you call him and you go, I'm not gonna be able to make it.

[Lindsey]

I'm sorry.

[Tracy]

Yes.

[Lindsey]

Yes.

[Adam]

I mean, that's a great yes. Yes.

[Lindsey]

Always play hard to get with the boys.

[Tracy]

I'm totally into games. I mean, that's so bad to say, but yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna call you back. Every time you call me, and I don't call guys, usually they have to call me, Keep them on his toast.

[Adam]

Keep them running for you.

[Tracy]

So it's okay that, like, I superimpose my head on your headshots?

[Adam]

Do whatever you gotta do to get this guy. We totally condone that.

[Jeff]

It'll be very interesting to see which one of the four of us you take off though.

[Adam]

Listen, it's the vert show.

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[Adam]

You look the same.

[Jeff]

But with this camera everything looks better. Especially me.

[Adam]

You haven't changed your hair in 15 years.

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