Full Show PT 2: Wednesday, June 10 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show – Full Show PT 2: Wednesday, June 10 [Vault]

Original Airdate: June 10, 2026
Cast: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, and the Bert Show team

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Bert Show explores a range of authentic, real-life topics with humor and candor. The two major conversations in this segment are:

• The complexities of female friendship and insecurity, especially around comparison and competition.
• An entertaining local urban legend segment covering "house humping."
• Listener-involved workplace drama over a raise.
• A revealing discussion about dating, expectations, and judgmental attitudes among devout Christian singles.
  Callers, cast members, and even a mom weigh in on issues of self-image, jealousy, career ambition, religion, and relationship standards.

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1. Female Competition, Insecurity, and Friendship

Timestamps: 01:01 – 16:37

Key Discussion Points

• Melissa's Insecurity: Melissa confesses feeling competitive and insecure around a female friend who "has it all": looks, career, and security. Her feelings are self-acknowledged, despite the friend never doing anything overtly negative.
• Group Reactions:
  • Jen questions why Melissa can't just be happy for her friend and objects to the stereotype that all women act this way.
  • Joanna offers an alternative: rather than feeling threatened, learn from people who seem better off.
  • Burt points out that even men compete with each other but sometimes see it as an opportunity for growth.
  • Jeff pushes Melissa to admit her own strengths.

Notable Quotes

• "I've just never encountered someone who I feel has everything going for them, you know, and that's just insecurity I have." — Melissa (01:51)
• "Why can't you be happy for her?" — Joanna (02:15)
• "I'm not that mean of a person. But, you know, if she got invited, I don't go out of my way..." — Melissa (11:04)
• "We may all have insecurities about ourselves, but I certainly don't walk around my life comparing myself to other women. And I certainly wouldn't exclude someone from my group because I thought she was talented or beautiful or smart or funny." — Jen (05:12)

Callers’ Perspectives

• Christian Woman Caller expresses frustration:
  "This is the reason why I don't have a lot of girlfriends. It's just these insecurities. Just be happy for her...it makes you ugly, sweetheart. And you're not." (07:27)
• Aubrey reflects on how maturity changes one's perception of female competition and envy (11:54).

Memorable Moment

Joanna’s mom joins and provides heartfelt motherly advice:

• "Outside looks...doesn't mean anything, all right? I want you to stop worrying about that...everybody have insecurities, okay? It's not just you...You're gonna be what you're gonna be." (13:35–15:15)

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2. Workplace Drama: The Failed Raise Revolt

Timestamps: 18:51 – 29:33

Key Discussion Points

• Sally and Jenny’s Dilemma: Two coworkers, upset that a third coworker received a raise, planned to confront their boss together. The boss outsmarts them, offering a raise to only one and putting them in direct competition.
• On-air Pitch: Each had to argue their case on the radio. Sally's plea goes negative, attacking working moms and coworkers.
• Result: The listeners overwhelmingly select Jenny for the raise (85% to 15%).

Notable Quotes

• "Within four days, you got one on air calling the other one a whore." — Burt (23:13)
• "I give 110%, 90% of the time." — Sally/Jen/Jeff, mocking an unintentionally nonsensical brag (24:00 ff.)
• "If you think it's fair or not, you got smoked." — Burt (27:50)

Memorable Moment

After losing, Sally considers escalating the matter:

• "I'll go to his boss, then...it's completely not justified that she would get a raise." — Sally (27:19)

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3. Local Urban Legends: “House Humping”

Timestamps: 31:33 – 40:13

Key Discussion Points

• “House Humping” Explained: The term refers to couples (sometimes aided by realtors) having sex in model homes, empty houses for sale, or even apartment models for the thrill.
• Real Callers Step Forward:
  • Jay: "Me and my wife...would actually get the numbers to the drop boxes to get inside the homes...kitchen counter, different parts of the home." (36:12)
  • Donna: "Our hobby...on nice days, weekends, we'll go out and house hunt even though we've owned our house for two years...and we'll just hop around to each house." (38:41)
  • Ashley: "When my husband and I bought our house, we were the first one on the street. And we had sex in all the other houses before everybody moved in." (39:46)

Notable Quotes

• "It's almost like a fetishy type thing...you house hump from...house to house." — Burt (35:09)
• "I am a house humper." — Jay, with group in stitches (36:12)
• "Been in your bedroom, and your laundry room...your kitchen." — Jen (40:04)

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4. Christian Dating and Judgment: Are Devout Christians Too Picky?

Timestamps: 42:19 – end

Key Discussion Points

• Listener Lainey’s Email: She claims "Christian guys are the pickiest, harshest judges of women," expecting unattainable perfection.
• Roundtable Debate:
  • The cast discusses whether devout Christian men (and women) have unrealistic standards in dating when abstinence until marriage is the goal.
  • Personal stories highlight the pressure of aligning with familial, church, and cultural expectations.
  • Several callers confirm that involvement in a church community can create high, sometimes double, standards or judgmental attitudes—sometimes leading to women feeling like "chopped liver."
• Counterpoints:
  • Some listeners assert it's unfair to judge all Christian men by the actions of a few.

Notable Quotes

• "If you were going to withhold sex until marriage, you have this extreme expectation. You have one shot at finding a partner. So you're gonna try to pick the cream of the crop." — Joanna (45:43)
• "Christian men definitely, definitely are very strict when it comes to what they're looking for in a girl. Almost...definitely unrealistic." — Will (caller) (49:45)

Memorable Moments

• Emotional confessions about family struggles with interfaith dating.
• Lively debate between callers with different experiences in church communities.

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5. Other Notables & Humor

• Comic Relief: Throughout, the banter remains light, mixing self-deprecating jokes with earnest advice, like riffs on Melissa’s mic technique and the made-up term "Doing the Harry Norman" for house humping.
• Motherly Wisdom: Joanna’s mom brings warmth and grounding perspective amidst the show's playful teasing.

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Additional Resources

• Weight Loss Advertisements and Lean Supplement Discussion: (Omitted from summary as per instructions.)

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Summary Table of Key Segments

| Segment | Start Time | Topics/Highlights | |-----------------------------|------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Female Insecurity/Friendship| 01:01 | Competing with other women, insecurity, group opinions, caller feedback | | Workplace Drama | 18:51 | Coworkers demand raise, boss’s challenge, on-air competition, fallout | | House Humping Legends | 31:33 | Atlanta urban legend, "confessions" from real listeners, comic new terminology| | Christian Dating | 42:19 | Listener email, single life, judgmentalism, interfaith dating, caller stories |

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The Bert Show delivers its signature blend: examining real personal issues and workplace drama with authenticity and humor, inviting listeners into the conversation while keeping things lively and relatable.

Transcript

[Podcast Host]

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[Burt]

you weren't here last week when Jen Hobby actually on the air was starting to get mad at producer Joanna.

[Joanna]

Okay.

[Burt]

She really was. You don't see about what you don't see. Jen lose it quite often, but she was. She was she on the borderline.

[Jen]

I was teetering, yeah. Because I just didn't quite understand it. Joanna was talking about this girl who they are friends with and how she felt like she was in kind of constant competition with her. Right.

[Burt]

Remember they were supposed to go to the lake or something?

[Joanna]

Yeah, the one that she disinvites to things.

[Melissa]

I don't disinvite her. I just don't extend the invitation to her.

[Joanna]

She doesn't invite him. I guess that means that you would have initially invited her. I see. Semantics anyway, and I just didn't quite

[Jen]

understand what they were competing over because they both have boyfriends and Joanna's in love with her boyfriend Jason and they're gonna get married and they both have, you know, great careers going on and they aren't going after the same job.

[Melissa]

No, but I just think that, you know, I have insecurities like every other girl. And this girl just really touches on a lot of my insecurities, and I've just never encountered someone who I feel has everything going for them, you know, and that's just. That's just insecurity that I have.

[Burt]

And again, she has never done anything to make you feel insecure. She's never been mean, never said a nasty word.

[Joanna]

So why can't you be happy for her?

[Melissa]

I am. No, I'm totally happy for her. But inside, I'm insecure when I'm around her.

[Joanna]

Okay.

[Melissa]

Yes.

[Joanna]

Okay.

[Burt]

Because she really. She's, like, physically, she thinks that she's better looking than Joanna. She thinks that career wise, she's already set in her career, so she's got everything Joanna wants.

[Joanna's Mom]

Okay.

[Melissa]

Got that going.

[Burt]

And she's got better mic technique than Joanna.

[Melissa]

Yeah. Sorry. I didn't realize it was falling apart.

[Joanna]

Okay, so. And so.

[Melissa]

And so this past weekend, we went snowboarding, and I was a little hesitant to go snowboard snowboarding because we were going to be hanging out with her all weekends. And I just knew that, you know, all of my insecurities were going to just be there all weekend long. I was gonna be constantly comparing myself to her. I think she's beautiful. I think she's funny. I think she's smart, and I think she's smart.

[Jeff]

And you think all of those things about yourself, too.

[Melissa]

Not necessarily.

[Jeff]

Yes, you do.

[Melissa]

I mean, I think I'm a cute girl, and I think I'm pretty funny. I make people laugh every now and again.

[Joanna]

It's okay to be confident. You can tell Jeff. Yes, I think I'm beautiful. I think I'm smart.

[Burt]

But she's not the one with that. She's at a different level. She's totally different level in all of these categories. You come in second.

[Melissa]

Yes, absolutely. Second place, definitely. But anyway, so we went snowboarding, and I was really nervous and I didn't want to go, but we went and I had a good time. I mean, you know, the first day we were snowboarding together, and it was fun because she was snowboarding and she's not very good at it. So it was fun because we were all on the ground and we were all falling and I had a good time. But the second day, she was skiing and I was snowboarding, and she's really good at skiing. And I was so mad because I was like, I want to ski now because I want to be good like her. So it's like, again, she's better than me in skiing. And it really got to me. I'm just very competitive.

[Joanna]

What is Fascinating to me about just the observation because I mean, I assume that when Jen said she didn't understand because I don't see, I don't look at women that way. My friends don't look at women that way. So I'm assuming it's. Most women don't do this with each other. However, I want to say in your case, what fascinates me is if there is a guy who. There are guys are jealous of other guys for sure and hate them. But then there's this opportunity that some guys want to hang out with people that are more successful than them so that they learn something from them. So I wonder if you can kind of convert that into she seems more talented, in your perception, she seems more talented, then maybe you could learn something from her rather than be kind of self deprecating about her.

[Melissa]

Well, absolutely, yeah. And I completely agree with you. I think that you should surround yourself with successful people because I think that that's going to help you in the long run. You know, you are who you are surrounded by in a sense. But I guess what I didn't understand is that I, I have insecurities. I guess what I didn't understand with Jen was why were you were getting so angry with me? Because I think we all have insecurities. I'm just being vocal.

[Jen]

I think I was getting angry with you. I was getting angry with the sentiment in the room that all women do this. That was the part that was frustrating to me is like, we may all have insecurities about ourselves, but I certainly don't walk around my life comparing myself to other women. And I certainly wouldn't exclude someone from my group because I thought she was talented or beautiful or smart or funny or all of those things. I would be like, that's somebody I wanna hang out with. That's somebody I wanna be around. So I think the sentiment in the room with the guys especially sort of your side, like, oh, all women feel this way. And I just.

[Burt]

Well, it's not the first time we've heard. I like, I think, I don't, I don't agree.

[Jen]

I don't think all women feel that way.

[Burt]

I think it was Jeff that said one week and that, that was Jessica that she walked into like a mall, right. And she walks by a woman really quickly and she wanted you to like check her butt out to see if she compared.

[Jeff]

Yeah, it's. That's not. We. I can't remember why we were talking about that, but that's not. It was when we were on vacation but that's. I think that's two totally different things. I think. Because Jessica didn't know that woman, but

[Burt]

she still saw a woman that she perceived to be better looking than she was, and she walked up to her, made you check both of their booties to make sure hers looked better.

[Jeff]

Yeah, But I think. And I'm not trying to put words in Jen's mouth, which is true, she did that. But I think it's different to have somebody in your circle that you consider a friend or potential friend, but have her be an enemy. I'd like to create the word frenemy.

[Burt]

You've got this thing with somebody here in the office also. Like, you are in competition with somebody here in the office, and they don't even know that you're in competition with them.

[Melissa]

No, that one's different. It's not somebody in the office. It's this girl that I went to high school with, and I call her my arch nemesis, because everything she goes after and I go after, she gets over me. So I was. It was a joke. I mean, it's just so funny because we went to high school together, and we both went after, like, the Miss North Gwinnett pageant, and she won. And then, you know, she was like, homecoming queen and I wasn't. And then we both went after this Georgia lottery thing, and she won it over me. And then now she works in this office, and I'm like, I swear I can't get away from this girl.

[Burt]

Hey, Lisa. Good morning. You're on Q and A. Hi.

[Joanna's Mom]

Good morning.

[Caller (Christian Woman)]

Just real quick. Joanna, you're so beautiful. I'm so frustrated with you right now. This is the reason why I don't have a lot of girlfriends. Who cares what she looks like? Who cares if she's better? Get over it. You're so beautiful. This is why a lot of. I don't have a lot of girlfriends because of that. It's just these insecurities. Just be happy for her, and if she's a good friend to you, then be her friend. This is. This is why I have so many guy friends, because girls.

[Joanna]

But you've reiterated that you don't have many girlfriends. Do you think that all girls act like this?

[Joanna's Mom]

Just about.

[Caller (Christian Woman)]

I mean, I have, like, a handful of good girlfriends that are not jealous of me. I'm not jealous of them. I'm not jealous of any girl. You know, I guess because I'm just secure within myself. But it's just. It's so frustrating to hear girls do this to themselves, you know? And that's why you should never be, like, jealous of somebody else, because you just never know what's going on in their heads. Just like right now. I mean, I look at Joanna, I'm like, oh, my gosh, she's so gorgeous. But look at her insecurities. It makes you ugly, sweetheart. And you're not. You're not an ugly person. Please stop that, Please.

[Joanna]

I mean, the comment I have to make is. Because I've never had that situation. I've never been jealous of another girl. I've never. None of my girlfriends and I from junior high all the way to now have never, you know, been this way. But I'm not the traditional, like, pretty girl who would go for a North Georgia pageant or go for, you know, any of these things. So I'm curious if this has to do with women who traditionally, and, you know, tell me if I'm right or wrong, traditionally focus on their looks only because, you know, most of my friends are not the beauty queens. They're not the ones that want to be the beauty queens. And, you know, it's not that they're not beautiful, but the thing is, I think what makes a woman beautiful is all parts of a woman. And I think that to me, the less attractive women are the ones that only focus on their looks and only focus on their status in society. And it seems that this happens with women like that.

[Burt]

Joanna, do you put more value into looks? Your looks, do you think then other women put into their looks? No, I get a lot of your self worth from your looks.

[Melissa]

No, I think initially, you know, people look at you and they're like, oh, she's a pretty girl. But I think. I definitely think that your personality and how you treat other people and things like that and, you know, whether you have a good sense of humor and all that goes into it, I think that holds more value.

[Joanna]

But what are you jealous of? Of this other girl? I mean, I'm just. Seems that everybody talks about beauty and I just. And I'm wondering if when you focus on beauty, it becomes the shallow thing that causes this drama.

[Melissa]

I guess I'm jealous of her because she went to college and she has a degree. I'm jealous of her because she has a great paying job. You know, she's not struggling. Like I struggle, which I know this because I've talked to her. She doesn't struggle every day like I do. She. And I hate getting upset about it because it's stupid to get upset about it.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Burt]

Why are you breaking up about it?

[Melissa]

Because I Just because that's my insecurity. I didn't go to college. I didn't get a four year degree. I don't have a backup in case this doesn't work out. This girl does. She has a backup if tomorrow her boyfriend leaves her. And it goes back to, you know, months ago when I talked about my insecurity with Jason. Like, I guess I'm jealous of that security. I have not had security in so long and it frustrates me. And that girl does. She has it. She has a diploma that she can hang on her wall. And if tomorrow it all falls apart, she has that diploma to go back on.

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

And it's not just about.

[Melissa]

I mean, yeah, she's a beautiful girl and that helps. It helps to be beautiful, smart and funny. I mean, come on.

[Burt]

But it's really more about security for

[Melissa]

you than it is all this security that I feel like she has around her. And I hate to say that I would. I don't exclude her from my group of friends. I would never do that. I'm not that mean of a person. But we don't really extend invitations to her. No. And I mean, but if she got invited, I mean, I don't like, go out of my way to say, hey, come out with us. Plus she lives in another state now, so it's a little different.

[Burt]

But like, when her name comes up, you'll be like, oh, she's really gotta go.

[Melissa]

No, I mean, kind of, I guess.

[Joanna]

Understand.

[Melissa]

Yeah, I mean, it's just. It's hard to be around someone who you feel like just has it all.

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

But you have the same things. It's just different things than she has. I mean, you have a great job, you have great friends, a great family. So if you ever, if you ever fell back, you have a family. You have Jason to rely on too.

[Melissa]

You're absolutely right. And just.

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

Just different things. She could be jealous of you in a completely different thing.

[Burt]

Hey, Aubrey, good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller (Aubrey)]

Good morning.

[Burt]

Hey.

[Sally]

Hey.

[Caller (Aubrey)]

I was just going to say, at first I was kind of getting a little frustrated as well with some of the other callers, but then I remembered I'm in my 30s, and when I was in my 20s, I remember feeling this way about a lot of girls I was friends with. And then as I've matured and grown up and had some life experience, I've realized it's different things that may define you. And there was one particular girl in college that's kind of like Joanna's describing that right out of college, got married, had a husband, had a great career, started having kids. I was single. I didn't really follow the same path, and I was really insecure about that. And I had followed up with her, and now she's staying home with the children. Has been for quite some time. And I was talking to her recently, and she was just talking about kind of being a little bit jealous of me because I do have a career, and I've had a lot of life experience separate from her husband and the life that I used to envy when I was in my 20s.

[Burt]

Everybody needs to realize that the grass is brown everywhere.

[Melissa]

Well, and I think.

[Joanna]

I mean, I think that for women who do do this, I mean, obviously there's some. Because they're calling up, you know, Even though. Agree with Jen that I never experienced this. But I do think it's sad, because insecurity, you know, you punish yourself, and you punish opportunities around you because of it. I mean, I know it sounds cliche to be confident in yourself, but there is something to that, you know? Like. You know, just because her, like the last caller, just because she may end up being unhappy eventually in her life still does not solve the problem. I mean, you know? You know what I mean? Like, this girl has nothing to do with your insecurity. It's your insecurity. She just happens to touch upon it, you know, and it's, here's Joanna's mom.

[Burt]

Let's get her.

[Joanna]

Okay.

[Burt]

Hey, Joanna's mom. Good morning.

[Joanna's Mom]

Good morning. How are you, everybody?

[Burt]

Good morning. Buenos dias.

[Joanna's Mom]

Buenos dias. Joanna. Joanna.

[Melissa]

Yes.

[Joanna's Mom]

I think part of this is my fault about her insecurities, because I'm always told my daughter, she was the most beautiful girl in the world. Then when she went out to the world and she found out there's more people there, they're more beautiful than you are. But the outside looks. Joanna, doesn't mean anything, all right? I want you to stop worrying about that. I don't know what's going on in your. In your little brain now, but you are beautiful.

[Jeff]

Your brain's not little.

[Burt]

She's gonna obsess over that all day today.

[Joanna's Mom]

You are just. I mean, I have. I'm so proud of my children. I mean, every time Joanna comes to visit me at work, I just take her every. All over the school because I want people to see. See her because she is beautiful. She's gorgeous. Not just outside. Inside, you are a beautiful girl inside. Joanna.

[Melissa]

Thank you.

[Joanna's Mom]

You don't need to be. Everybody have insecurities, okay? It's not just you. Everybody does.

[Ad Voice]

Jeff does not.

[Burt]

He's the only one.

[Joanna's Mom]

You know, even men does have insecurities. All right? And you're gonna make me cry now because I don't want you to be unhappy because you are my life, baby. I want you to be happy. I want you to be a strong woman. And about college degree. You have a. We can solve that problem. Go back to college, get your degree. I got married young. I didn't get a college degree. Then when I was in my 40s, I turned around and did something about that. And you can do it, but you don't need to be worrying about other people being more successful. You're gonna be what you're gonna be. Okay.

[Melissa]

Okay?

[Joanna's Mom]

And you cannot compare yourself to anybody.

[Burt]

And again, I would submit that your mom is wiser than other women because she has an accent.

[Joanna's Mom]

I mean, Joanna, you just. I don't know what's wrong with you, baby. Maybe because you are, what, 25, 5 inches shorter than she is.

[Burt]

I feel that I'm jealous for her, too.

[Jen]

Thank you.

[Joanna's Mom]

I don't like to hear you talking about it like that because it made me sad and I thought I'd make up, but it made me say, you don't want to see your children being secure. You want to be. You want to see your children be happy.

[Jeff]

Have you seen a picture of this girl that she's talking about?

[Joanna's Mom]

Yes. She is a very pretty girl, but she. I mean, don't take. I don't want to be one of those moms, you know, but she is a pretty girl.

[Burt]

Is she prettier than Joanne?

[Joanna]

Oh, stop now. Stop this. This is exactly what I was talking about.

[Joanna's Mom]

Normal, pretty girl. She is just always. She always look good because she always got makeup on it. All right? And then she makes sure that she has the makeup on when they take her pictures.

[Joanna]

That is such a mother thing.

[Joanna's Mom]

She show it to me.

[Joanna]

I could never walk into my mother's house without makeup on.

[Melissa]

Thank you, Mom.

[Joanna]

Yeah, I just want to see more teamwork amongst women, you know, like, instead of this jealousy. So when a girl says, I don't have any girlfriends, red flag.

[Melissa]

But I do.

[Joanna]

I was talking about that call.

[Melissa]

Okay. No, my friends are beautiful. Thank you. I don't want anybody to think I'm, like, this mean person who doesn't have girlfriends. I have lots of girlfriends, but.

[Jeff]

Yes, but all of them are ugly. The Bird show.

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[Burt]

Melissa, this started about a week ago when Sally called us initially and her idea was to go into the boss's office with her coworker and they were both gonna demand a raise.

[Joanna]

I do remember that one of my

[Sally]

coworkers had mentioned that she's buying a house and when asked how she's Able to do that. She mentioned that she just got a raise. And my other co worker and I. She and I did not get a raise. And so, you know, we were out in the parking lot and we devised a plan that we're gonna go into the boss's office today and demand a raise.

[Burt]

So they did that. They walked in there hand in hand. And were you here when the boss broke them up? Basically. Okay. So Sally and the co worker, who we found out later his name was Jenny, walk into the boss's office and they demand their raise. And the boss says, well, you know what, guys? You're half right. I've got money, but I only have money for one of you guys. So he says, why don't you guys, you know, come up with, you know, I'll interview both of you guys in a couple of days and we'll see who gets the job. Smart. And I think it's really smart.

[Jeff]

And I think it's just the boss jacking with them. Like he fully knew that, you know, what was going on. So.

[Joanna]

But that's a great response.

[Burt]

Brilliant.

[Joanna]

Broke him up immediately.

[Jen]

So then they come in Monday to individually pitch for the jobs, and that's when he found out she had been on the radio.

[Burt]

Yes. So Jenny goes in for her interview first, and then Sally walks in with the boss, and the boss says, hey, before we start this whole interview thing, have you been on Q100 talking about this? Because Jenny sold her out. And Sally had to say, yeah, yeah, I've been on the radio. So the boss says, you know what? Rather than us do the interview, why don't you just, you know, forget about this today? So Sally leaves his office and she's all insecure. She has no idea what's going on. And he calls us and says this.

[Mark]

She seemed like she was having so much fun with this. I thought I would try to appeal to Atlanta. My idea was that both of the girls would appeal to your listeners on the radio and then have your listeners decide who gets the race.

[Joanna]

That's great.

[Burt]

So we were totally into that.

[Joanna]

That's great.

[Jen]

He was like, you're gonna have fun with the radio. No, I'm gonna have fun with the radio.

[Joanna]

I'm still the boss.

[Burt]

So Sally comes on and she makes a plea and she just totally hacks it in her on air interview. She hacked it. She ripped on single moms. She ripped on smokers.

[Melissa]

What?

[Burt]

And, yeah, what does that have to

[Joanna]

do with the job?

[Jeff]

Ginny, the girl she's competing with, has kids. So Sally starts off Strong, like once or twice, you know, one or two good lines where she's like, there are people in the office who will vouch that I've contributed to making the company money by supporting them with blah, blah, blah. So that's good. And then about 90 seconds into it, she goes, and Ginny has kids and I don't. And there's such a big distraction to her at work.

[Jen]

And then from talking about her, she's like, well, I don't take sick days because I don't have kids that are out sick, and I don't talk to

[Burt]

my kids on the phone.

[Jen]

Oh, wow. And we asked her how much time she spent on Facebook and, you know, social networking sites and all that kind of stuff.

[Melissa]

It got ugly.

[Jen]

She hacked it bad.

[Burt]

So she comes on and she messes it up. And then Jenny comes on the next day and does. Okay, she didn't do all that much better.

[Joanna]

Did she rip on Sally?

[Jen]

A little.

[Joanna]

A little bit. I mean, yeah, that's kind of uncool to rip on the other candidate, but

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

all Jenny had to do was say hi. Like, she didn't even have to do

[Joanna]

anything to sound that bad.

[Burt]

Less was definitely more. Right. But by the time she got off the phone, it was almost unanimous. Virtual listeners calling up saying, nobody deserves a raise and they ought to fire the boss because this is totally unprofessional. So we haven't talked to the boss about it, but we do have results. So we put the poll up online, and people have been voting all weekend long. Hey, Sally.

[Sally]

Hi. Good morning.

[Burt]

How are you?

[Sally]

I'm good. I'm good, you know, Glad to get back to work.

[Burt]

Are you feeling good about your pitch last week, and what did you think when you heard Jenny on with us?

[Sally]

I just thought she was ridiculous and, you know, I mean, we'll see what she says, but she sounded awful, and she even admitted that it's not her priority.

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

Have you two spoke? Have you guys spoken since you both were on the radio?

[Sally]

No, not really.

[Joanna]

I love how this united front has

[Burt]

turned into a war. I mean, within four days. Yeah, they walked into the boss's office together because they knew that there were strength in numbers. And within four days, you got one on the air calling the other one a whore.

[Joanna]

That's horrible.

[Burt]

You know, Anyway, totally broken at this point. All right, so are you fairly confident, insecure, or think that Jenny's gonna get the job at this point?

[Sally]

Well, I'm pretty confident only because, you know, like, she admitted that it's not our priority, and here I am, like I said, an employee that gives 110%, you know, 90% of the time. So that's, I think. I mean, I think it's pretty clear that I deserve it.

[Jeff]

So you give 100%, 90% of the time.

[Sally]

I give 110%. 90% of the time.

[Jeff]

And what do you give the other 10%?

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

Well, good thing this is not your salary.

[Joanna]

You know what?

[Jen]

That's inspirational. I'm going to put that on a T shirt. We should put that on a plaque.

[Jeff]

I give 110%, 90% of the time. So when you average it out, give 100%, 100% of the time. So that's good. It was brilliant.

[Jen]

Wow.

[Burt]

All right, now, and do I have this a little twisted. One of you gets the raise. That doesn't necessarily mean the other one is leaving the job. Right?

[Jen]

Right.

[Sally]

Yeah, he didn't.

[Jeff]

Nobody's getting fired.

[Sally]

No one's getting fired.

[Joanna]

Now does. What does whoever gets the job, does the other one have to answer directly to you or her?

[Caller (Aubrey)]

You know what I mean?

[Sally]

It's a raise. It's not.

[Joanna]

Oh. It's not a promotion. It's just choice. Okay, that's right.

[Burt]

That's right. Okay. They'll have to walk, you know, work side by side next to each other, knowing that the other one is making $5,000 more than the other.

[Sally]

Yeah, I mean, it's pretty much the same thing, except like I said, I do more work, but whatever.

[Burt]

I think pretty much the person that gets the raise will stay and the other one eventually here pretty quickly will quit.

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

Right.

[Joanna]

Because the fact it's a work environment, I mean, the boss has been on in on this, but it's not a

[Jen]

great job market to be quitting anything.

[Burt]

Right.

[Jen]

You know, Totally. Might want to just hang on to it.

[Burt]

Okay. You want the official results?

[Sally]

Okay. Yeah, I do.

[Jen]

All right.

[Burt]

After all weekend long in voting. Well, I will tell you this. It wasn't even close. The final online poll was 85% to 15%.

[Sally]

Okay. Yeah.

[Burt]

And Jenny won.

[Jeff]

What?

[Jen]

Shocking.

[Joanna]

I don't.

[Melissa]

I don't see why.

[Sally]

How could she won? I think that's ridiculous.

[Burt]

It wasn't even close.

[Jeff]

You knew you weren't gonna win. You knew you weren't gonna win this.

[Sally]

Hey, I just built a strong case. And hopefully my father will be smart enough to not even pay attention to these results.

[Joanna]

But that's what.

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

But that's what he was basing his decision on. So you're not getting a raise.

[Jeff]

You're not surprised.

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

You cannot be Shocked by the results.

[Burt]

And I will say our listeners gave 110% in this voting, at least 90% of the weekend.

[Sally]

Hey, I have to tell you. No, I think it's ridiculous because what makes this official? Who did the counting of this? I mean, I mean, come on. How do I know that you guys didn't do something funny with this?

[Burt]

So you think we have something personal against you and that's why we manipulated the results for Jenny to win?

[Sally]

Yeah, I think you got a little defended about, Defensive about, you know, some of my comments. And like I said, all I was doing was building a stronger, stronger case that I'm a better worker.

[Burt]

Yeah, you lost.

[Jen]

Yeah. Better worker or not, she's getting paid more.

[Joanna]

Yeah, we don't care enough to spend the time to manipulate them.

[Sally]

You know, I have to say, I honestly, I don't think my boss is going to follow through with listening to these results. I just don't. I just don't think there's any. You know, how can he not back it up officially?

[Burt]

Yeah, this was his idea.

[Jeff]

Yeah. How can he not?

[Sally]

Because, I mean, I'll go to his boss then and just say that it's completely not justified that she would get a raise. She even. How can somebody come in and just say, I really don't care two, you know, bits about this job, that my priority is something else and somewhere else. And then here I'm saying, you know, I'm a better employee, fully, obviously, and. And then she gets more money for doing less of a job, and it's ridiculous.

[Burt]

Your debate is inconsequential at this point. I mean, your boss said, put the poll up. We did that. You made your pitch. She made her pitch. If you think it's fair or not, you got smoked.

[Sally]

Well, I think maybe your poll might be inconsequential to, at this point, to this day.

[Joanna]

Okay, Desperate.

[Jen]

Okay.

[Burt]

I'm on painkillers and I don't really care.

[Joanna]

What I find fascinating is that you start. What I find fascinating is that you're defending your job performance when that's all you had to do in the beginning by yourself is walk in and tell the boss that in order to get a race, you started this drama by trying to take somebody else in.

[Sally]

We did it together.

[Joanna]

And then you turned on her viciously and thus you lost the pole.

[Sally]

I was just building myself a stronger case. And actually she's the one that kind of got very.

[Joanna]

Of course, nothing is your fault.

[Sally]

Right.

[Burt]

We got to get your boss back on, but you got to take it up with him. I mean, because at this point, we played by the rules that he gave us and you lost, and so you didn't get the rules.

[Sally]

I'll take it out with his boss.

[Burt]

Okay, you do that.

[Jen]

Good luck. 90% of the time, Jen.

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

But she does give 110%.

[Jen]

90% of the time.

[Burt]

Okay, Sally, good luck.

[Sally]

Thank you. Fine. Thank you.

[Burt]

All right.

[Jay]

Bye.

[Burt]

Bye.

[Jeff]

I think she knew that was coming.

[Burt]

She knew that was coming.

[Jeff]

I think that was coming.

[Joanna]

I'll go to his boss, then. I'll go to his boss.

[Burt]

She never really even had a chance based on. I mean, she was on the radio for three days before Jenny, so people disliked her. Even before the post, she never even had a chance.

[Jeff]

But I think her angry reaction or whatever, she knew that she would have to react that way. How? Like, I mean, any friend of hers is going to say, yeah, you're a tool.

[Jen]

I'm not sure she has friends.

[Burt]

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Visit borheart.com the Bird show all right, we have a local Snopes to run by you guys this morning. Now, Snopes is a website that is dedicated to either proving or disproving different theories that you might hear urban legends. Urban legends. Yeah.

[Jen]

You know, like that email about the guy who had the pictures under the seat at the wedding.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Jen]

You know, it's always a friend of a friend of a friend that heard that. Well, Snopes would like actually go in and investigate that and tell you, you know what, that's an urban legend story that's not really real. Or yeah, there's some truth to it and here's where it came from.

[Burt]

So from time to time, we'll do a local version and we'll ask any of you guys that might have any information to either call us up and tell us, no, it's totally not true, or yes, it is true. Like in the past, the first and

[Jeff]

the biggest one we did was that there's a city at the bottom of Lake Lanier.

[Joanna]

Right.

[Jeff]

And this happened, we talked about this two summers ago when we were at the height of the drought because everybody started to say, the steeple's about to show. You got to be careful if you're boating on Lanier because you're going to hit the steeple, the church steeple, with your boat. And so we talked about that. And then people, I mean, people were the most passionate about this one. They were calling up, saying it is there. And then if you swim down, you can see the cemetery next to the church. You can see it. If you swim, if you scuba dive down there, you can see it. And so that was the biggest one we've done. But there's just been other random things that come up.

[Burt]

There was a restaurant that the rumor was that they lined up all the girls Cause it's a restaurant where the waitresses wear really skimpy clothing. And the rumor was that the owner of this establishment lined all the women up and said to them, too fat. You need to take about £6 off. You look okay, you're good, you're too fat. So we asked on the air if that was true. And what did we find out? We found out that wasn't true.

[Jeff]

Well, that was. Depends on who you asked.

[Burt]

That was 50. 50.

[Jeff]

That one had the gray areas. But that's the idea that if there's something going on. And the one that we're going to discuss today could, could be a national epidemic, but we don't care about anywhere else other than Atlanta.

[Burt]

We're hearing the word house humping thrown around quite a bit.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

What is house humping, Jeff?

[Burt]

You can give the better definition because you're a pro.

[Jeff]

The idea behind house humping, and this is somebody who emailed us and the person who emailed us was a realtor and a realtor, if you listen to the commercials, real tour. And this real estate agent had finished showing a home one weekend and was just doing a final walk through to make sure all the blinds were drawn and the doors were locked and stumbled across a couple doing it in one of the empty rooms of the house. And so kind of like, I don't know how they handled it, but like that person, they ended up leaving, you know, that couple. And so this real auteur started telling all of their friends about this crazy story. And their other real estate agent friends said, oh yeah, that's called house humping. And it happens all the time. There's real estate agents who will bring their significant others to empty houses. There are landlords who are renting houses who between tenants will do it. There are people who look at houses who when they think that nobody's around, will go in there and do it.

[Jen]

Like they just go to like an open house on Sunday from 2 to 5.

[Jeff]

Yes, ma'.

[Mark]

Am.

[Burt]

And is this something that they do every weekend or is this just.

[Jeff]

It's. I don't know if it's, I don't know if it's a one time thrill thing. I would.

[Burt]

Because what I've heard is like, it's almost like a fetishy type thing. Oh really? You look up the open houses and each weekend you would go to one and yeah, you house hump from. You hump from house to house.

[Joanna]

So it's like a hobby.

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

Is it a hobby or like, what's the point?

[Joanna]

Well, you could Take a map out, and you could tack all the neighborhoods,

[Jeff]

what counties, and you could do costs.

[Burt]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Like, you could do a house that's worth less than 100 grand. A house that's worth between 150. You could go. You could join the quarter million club. You could do it in a house that's worth more than a quarter million dollars. Booyah.

[Burt]

4 7, 4, 1. Q100. And I don't think we're looking for the people that were just happened to be looking legitimately for a house. And spontaneously this idea came up. I think we're looking at house humping. Means you do this regularly.

[Joanna]

Seek it out.

[Burt]

Right.

[Jeff]

You have to call yourself a house humper.

[Jen]

Hello, I am a house humper. That's what you have to say.

[Jeff]

Save that.

[Burt]

Save that

[Jeff]

beginning.

[Jen]

Dang it.

[Burt]

Good morning, jay. You're on Q100.

[Jay]

Yes, my name is Jay, and I am a house humper.

[Burt]

Hi, Jay.

[Jeff]

Hi, Jay.

[Burt]

All right, so this is a one time thing, or is this something that you do regularly?

[Jay]

It's been multiple times. Me and my wife, we have a friend who's a realtor, and she would actually give us the numbers to the drop boxes to get inside the homes, check them out, and, you know, one thing leads to another. Kitchen counter, different parts of the home.

[Jeff]

What's the thrill of it?

[Jay]

Just being in a new area and the possibility of getting called again.

[Burt]

I get it.

[Joanna]

Okay.

[Jen]

I think it's even. I think it's even cooler that it's with his wife.

[Burt]

Yeah.

[Jen]

How long have you guys been married?

[Jay]

About three years now.

[Burt]

Oh, okay. Boy, I can't wait to talk to you guys in another 15 years.

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

And are these in, like, empty houses or are these furnished houses?

[Jay]

No, absolutely empty. Completely.

[Burt]

Oh, really?

[Joanna]

Okay.

[Burt]

I thought these were like the demo houses or something. So they'd already be.

[Jay]

That would actually kind of like, freak me out, like invading privacy as well. I guess we're still invading privacy, but, like, you know, doing it on somebody else.

[Jeff]

See, that'd be my concern. If I ever put my place up for sale. You know, when people. When you show it, it's still furnished. So I would be concerned that, you know, people would be giving me reason to buy a black light.

[Burt]

It doesn't necessarily have to be house humping. It can be apartment humping. Hey, Mark. Good morning. You're on the voice disguise.

[Jay]

Wow, man, Nice segue. Yeah. My name is Mark and I am an apartment humper.

[Jen]

Hi, Mark.

[Jay]

Yes, my wife and I have been married.

[Mark]

Well, I don't want to Give too much away.

[Jay]

But when we first had got married and we didn't have kids, we, you know, I worked for an apartment complex. I'm the maintenance guy. And we would go in either the model and christened. Good. Or we would go in like the vacant apartment after they were freshly cleaned and everything. And, you know, do the.

[Burt]

Do I got you.

[Joanna]

I love it. And again, a husband and his wife.

[Burt]

I like the model apartment things because if you ever go into a model apartment or a model house, the furniture is awesome, it's decorated nicely.

[Jen]

I could get really, really start pretending that you're living there.

[Joanna]

It's great.

[Burt]

Here is Donna. She wants to be on the Voice Disguiser. Hi, Donna.

[Sally]

Hi.

[Burt]

Hi.

[Sally]

Voice disguiser, right?

[Burt]

Yes.

[Jay]

Okay.

[Sally]

It's weird because our hobby is actually during, like, nice days, weekends, we'll go out and house hunt even though we've owned our house for two years. And it just so happens that we'll stumble into the subdivisions where there's nobody there. The houses are all open, you know, 10, 20, 30 houses, whatever. And we'll just hop around to each house.

[Burt]

Really.

[Mark]

Wow.

[Jeff]

That's good. Stamina.

[Sally]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jen]

And what is it at the beginning of the call, though?

[Joanna]

I know.

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

No.

[Burt]

And what's the thrill of it? The thrill of it for you is what?

[Sally]

New environment? Who knows? I mean, I don't know. It just started one time. I don't even know why we go and look at houses. Because we own a house.

[Joanna]

That's awesome.

[Burt]

So it's just for new environment.

[Jeff]

I think this should be. This should have a name and it should be called Doing the Harry Norman.

[Joanna]

Oh, my God.

[Burt]

We're just doing Harry Norman.

[Jeff]

And that's what it's called. Like, I'm going to go give her a Harry Norman.

[Joanna]

Oh, my God.

[Jeff]

What?

[Burt]

Hey, Ashley.

[Joanna's Mom]

Good morning.

[Jen]

Or finding ReMax.

[Burt]

Hi.

[Sally]

When my husband and I bought our house, we were the first one on the street. And we had sex in all the other houses before everybody moved in.

[Joanna]

Oh, my God.

[Burt]

All right, so this is legit. House humping is absolutely legit.

[Jen]

People are doing it.

[Burt]

People are doing it.

[Joanna]

Literally.

[Jen]

And now she can look at all of her neighbors and go, yep. Been in your bedroom.

[Joanna]

In your bedroom and your laundry room.

[Burt]

Been in your kitchen.

[Jen]

Your kitchen.

[Melissa]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

You know, where you're cutting your vegetables. I gave her the Harry Norman right there.

[Burt]

Hey, the bird show.

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[Burt]

right, so this is the email that I got last Thursday. Melissa, you need to know the back history on this, huh? So we talked to this dude Jesse last week and he comes on with us. This is early in the Burt show and he says, look, I'm about a 4. If I look at myself critically, I could say, you know what, I'd rank Myself at about a four. And there's a girl in my class that's a 15. She's hot. Okay, so how do I ask her out? So we give him some advice, and he comes on the next day, and he ends up bagging the date with, like, this 15.

[Jen]

Right.

[Joanna]

Okay.

[Burt]

But while he's out with her, he realizes that, yeah, she's pretty and all, but she's got nothing else. She's cynical, she's not a lot of fun to be around, and he claims they don't have chemistry. So at the end of the date, he says that. He said to her, look, this isn't working out. Let's just be friends.

[Joanna]

Good for him.

[Burt]

That's his story.

[Jen]

Well, yeah, they weren't really buying the story, but then as we asked him, more like she might have brought up something that would have sparked him to have that conversation, right?

[Burt]

Yeah, but Jeff and I weren't really buying the story. Because you didn't think you were out with her or. Well, no. If you're with somebody that hot and they're annoying, then chances are pretty good because she's so hot, you'd give her two, three, four, five other chances.

[Jen]

Okay.

[Burt]

So you could hook up with her.

[Joanna]

So you thought that he just. He ended it too soon. If it really happened.

[Jen]

He was real clear and the hot part didn't matter to him. And what he explained to Burt and Jeff was that he's not looking to have any sex before marriage. So he wasn't interested in the physical. He wanted their personalities to connect.

[Jeff]

He's one of them.

[Burt]

He used the word good Christian. He's a good Christian. So, you know, the looks part of it's nice, but he's looking for something deeper. So we talked about that for a little bit. Then I got this email later on in the day, which I was really surprised by. It says Bert Show Team. I had to write in because I totally buy Jesse's story, and I want to explain why Jeff and I didn't believe it.

[Joanna]

Okay.

[Burt]

Christian guys are the pickiest, harshest judges of women I've ever known. As a Christian woman, let me tell you more. My theory is that these men are waiting for this angel that they've had in their head. They believe that they will remain pure and be intentional and God will deliver them a perfect physical specimen. I actually heard my pastor admit that he used to believe if he waited to have sex until he was married, he'd be awarded with, quote, unquote, mind blowing. You know, his point was that God doesn't work that way. They are looking for someone who smiles and nods, votes Republican, teaches kindergarten, and it is so, so, so annoying. She writes, I'm 26 years old, I'm a Christian, and looking for a Christian guy. However, I am not a turkey and white bread girl. I have a little personality on me. I like a glass of wine. Some would say, I'm witty, I want a career. Your man Jesse would take me to the melting pot and after a few dips into the cheese, he'd break it off with me. So, yes, I buy it. These alleged good guys are still out there, and they are making Christian women feel like chopped liver. Wtf. Love the show, Lainey.

[Joanna]

And then I don't think.

[Jeff]

You can't say, if you're a Christian, you can't say wtf, right?

[Joanna]

Well, I think we probably should specify devout Christian men, because, I mean, I mean, there's so many levels. But of the devout Christian men that I've known in my life, I could see where she's coming from.

[Jen]

Really?

[Joanna]

Because, Yeah, I think that there is a expectation.

[Joanna's Mom]

A.

[Joanna]

Yeah. Because her female makes sense.

[Jen]

Holds itself to that same expectation. Or you think it's a double standard expectation?

[Joanna]

Well, I just wonder if it's just. I don't know if it's just a male Christian thing or a female devout Christian thing. If you were going to withhold sex until marriage, you have this extreme expectation. You have one shot at finding a partner. So you're gonna try to pick the cream of the crop or at least what you think that is. And that's why you're over picky and over judgmental, maybe about a partner, but like I said, that's like, to me, that defines, like a very devout church is like the number one thing in your life Christian. Not just, you know, not every single Christian out there. Because there's a lot.

[Jen]

Not just that you were baptized in. You go on the high.

[Melissa]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

And you go on the holidays. Yeah. You go. You go on Eastern Christmas.

[Burt]

You guys don't specifically date with a religion in mind, right?

[Jen]

Not in mind, but it's important.

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

It is kind of a big deal.

[Burt]

Yeah.

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

Same religious views. Yeah. Because then that could cause major arguments.

[Burt]

How long would you give a guy that was a different religion?

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

I don't know. Because I'm struggling with that about going out with this one guy who's not Christian.

[Burt]

Well, yeah, right now.

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

Right now. Because he's Jewish. So I don't know how much time to devote to somebody who. I don't know if I could ever Convert to. But why do you have to convert?

[Jeff]

Is he devout Jewish?

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

Yeah, I would say devout Jewish. From what I know right now, I might. I might not have all the pieces

[Jen]

together, but that's a big deal.

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

I mean, I think about marriage. You have to think about the church you want to go to and what, you want to get married.

[Jeff]

Don't ever say that to the guy, ever.

[Joanna]

See, I'm trying to think about. I would have to think about my parents, because the family would have a hard time with that, too.

[Burt]

I think I shared this with you guys when Stacy and I first started going out. I'm Jewish, and Stacy's not, and her mom is hardcore Christian.

[Jen]

Catholic.

[Burt]

Catholic.

[Jen]

That's a whole different breed.

[Jeff]

Yes.

[Burt]

She cried when Stacy told her she was dating a Jewish guy. George Ann told me years later. Yeah, she cried that. Oh, my God.

[Jeff]

But did she know you?

[Burt]

No. And she cried more after she got to know me. Hey, Christy, Good morning. You're on Q100.

[Sally]

Good morning.

[Burt]

Good morning.

[Caller (Aubrey)]

How are y'?

[Joanna's Mom]

All?

[Burt]

Good. Is there any truth to this email that Lainey sends, basically saying, look, Christian guys are the pickiest, harshest judges of women she's ever known?

[Caller (Aubrey)]

It is so true.

[Caller (Christian Woman)]

I actually just broke up with a guy. He was Catholic, and I'm a Christian woman. And just if I didn't smile and nod and was completely perfect to a T the Christian woman, then I got, like, almost the snub nose looked down on, and I was like, you can't judge me.

[Joanna]

Was he real involved in the church?

[Caller (Christian Woman)]

Yes, very, very much so.

[Joanna]

Because a lot of times I find that if someone is real involved in their church community, then that is their extended family, and that's who is giving them feedback on who they date. So I think that, you know, the crossing your T's and dotting your I's, you know, as a good Christian woman or man, in that situation, you're trying to impress the church.

[Jen]

Supposed to be one of the most important accepting environments, but it usually doesn't end up being that way. So it seems to be a really judgmental environment.

[Joanna]

Well, I think that most denominations are a group of people who are very much alike, just like little small towns. So if somebody comes in, that's different. As a culture, we seem to not embrace that.

[Burt]

And you can draw a lot of generalities by dating one guy and having one bad experience with one guy. Like, she'll never date a Christian guy ever again based on this one experience.

[Jeff]

We've talked about that before with occupations. People who have one bad Police officer. Never date one again.

[Burt]

Hey, Ashley. Good morning. You're part of the Burt Show.

[Caller (Christian Woman)]

Good morning. I just think that that statement's completely unfair to all Christian men.

[Sally]

I mean, come on, you can't judge

[Caller (Christian Woman)]

on just a few men. The whole population of Christian men. It's not fair.

[Jen]

I agree with you. I mean, I don't think you can judge anybody on one person's behavior, but.

[Caller (Aubrey)]

Right.

[Burt]

I mean, she's getting upset with them

[Caller (Aubrey)]

for judging her, but then she wants

[Caller (Christian Woman)]

to judge all of them because that one guy.

[Burt]

That's just ridiculous. She's judging a very judgmental guy.

[Caller (Religious Perspective)]

Well, it sounds like she's a couple of Christians. Yeah, I mean, it's just her experiences. She's sounds like she's been with a couple. More than one.

[Burt]

Here's Will. Hey, Will.

[Mark]

Hey. I actually waited till I was married to have sex. I'm a Christian. And. But. But I will say this. Christian men definitely, definitely are very strict when it comes to what they're looking for in a girl. Almost. I won't say almost. Real unrealistic. Definitely unrealistic. Because they want to. They want someone that's perfect and. But that. It's just not reality.

[Burt]

Well, can't you say this about.

[Mark]

Forget that we're human?

[Burt]

Can't you say this to anybody that's passionate about their own religion or anything or anything? Like if you're a passionate Jewish guy

[Jeff]

or a vegetarian, like anything that you surround yourself, you build your life around. You know what I mean? If you try to date and you're different than that, you're gonna. There's gonna be struggles.

[Burt]

What's the patron shot look there for Jen?

[Jen]

Well, I think that there's more. I understand what Jeff's saying about somebody that's a vegetarian or something. That is the way they live their life and sort of putting that impression upon other people. But I think that there's a specific goal of perfection. And it's not just in one little area, like not eating meat. It's in all areas. So these men are expecting their women to be perfect in every single way. But the look was. Because, I mean, that's why we're all Christians and ask for forgiveness for our sins, because we're all sinners. So it's kind of. I don't know, it just seems like this juxtaposition of both things. That's why you belong to the church and that's why you go there. But then once. Once you're there and admitting that you're a sinner, then all Of a sudden you have to become perfect. I don't know.

[Burt]

Hey Mark, good morning. You're on the birth show.

[Mark]

Yeah, actually in a lot of ways I actually do sadly agree with that, with that email, which is like before I met my wife I would actually date when, you know, take them out on dates to actually encourage them because of at and my wife, when she first, you know, became a Christian, she first joined the church. She really didn't, she didn't get all, she didn't go on a lot of things. You know, she's from New Orleans and you know, I don't drink but you know, she drinks on occasion and you know, she likes to dance. I mean, dude, she's from New Orleans. Like that's part of their culture, like.

[Melissa]

Right.

[Mark]

You know, but they have more, you know, Christians from New Orleans and people kind of, they kind of, you know, kind of look down on her. You know, she's a career minded woman. She's, you know, now she's a stay at home mom. But you know, back, you know, when she was single, she was a career minded woman and she wasn't your necessarily cookie cutter Christian woman. Now the staff looked at her as, wow, she's a go getter. She's the next person on staff. But a lot of the Christian men, they either A, were intimidated by her or B, they just looked down on her. So it's really true.

[Joanna]

Well, and I, and I want to say that I have a friend whose brother's really involved in the church and I'm just trying to think about, because not every relationship seems to last and it usually ends up being him breaking up with her because something disappointed him, you know, and that's normal for any relationship. But now I'm thinking, is that the reason why? Because in a church, normally in a church, in most churches, the, you know, the attendees are older, you know, like churches aren't really attracting young people anymore. Some churches are, most aren't. And if you're in that environment as a young man, you've got a hen house of older women who, their idea of a perfect woman is from the 1950s, you know what I mean?

[Jen]

It's very different.

[Joanna]

So I think that, yeah, I think a young man's getting conflicting ideas of what is realistic, you know, in the church.

[Burt]

The bird show.