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Host (Bert)
The Bird show so Melissa, this promiscuity poll, I mean, shocking stuff. I thought on Friday maybe I was the only one really shocked because I have a kid and it's scaring me so much.
Melissa
No, I, I am shocked too because I think parents, I don't know, I just, for some reason I just feel like parents nowadays, like the baby boomer generation, for some reason I thought would be a little more enlightened than like my parents had me a little older, so they were more of the, you know, generation before that. So I expected them to be kind of naive to what's going on. But not parents today. But there was a new research done where they took 100 teenagers and put them in a, they took 100 parents and put them in the room. They weren't necessarily related to one another, but it's just teenagers and parents. They asked them questions about intimate questions about what teenagers were doing today. And the answers that you got from the teenagers and the answers you got from the parents were so different from one another, which shows that parents have no idea what their kids are doing.
Host (Bert)
Yeah. If you want to get in on this, 404-741-1005 and I will give this warning out again that generally we do like the adult material here after 8:30, but this specifically has to do with teens. So we're going to talk about sex. And if you don't want this conversation brought up in the car while you're cruising with your kids, then we'll see you back in a couple of minutes. But the most shocking stuff from Friday, just to recap, I think was probably the stuff that the one question was about receiving oral where the teenagers answered that 61% of them had at one point or another received. And the parents thought that that number would be about 10%. Not even close. Then there was the performed one and 51%. Half of the teens survey said yes, they've performed that act. And only 1% of the parents thought that their teens had actually done that. So not my little girl, she would never do that.
Jen
It's more than half of them on both accounts giving and receiving.
Host (Bert)
Yes.
Jen
Yeah.
Host (Bert)
But the parents on both ends were just so not even in the same ballpark. You know, I guess that's hard to think about as your kid, you know that this, your kid is capable of doing that. Right.
Melissa
But it's a young adult. I mean that's, I mean they're eventually going to do it. It's eventually what you evolve into.
Jeff
Well, right after you're married.
Host (Bert)
I'm never letting Hayden out of the house. Never.
Melissa
Then I will never, ever do it in my life.
Host (Bert)
Continuing on with the survey, one of the questions was have you ever taken a shower with someone in the nude? 27% of the teens said, yeah, of course. And the parents, duh, who hasn't? Come on. Parents said 6% had sexual conversations with a stranger on the Internet. Only 25% of the teens, one in four said yes. This is pretty, I mean, this is very, very telling here. The parents answered 3%.
Jen
That is shocking. The one in four having sexual conversations with a stranger online. I think that's scarier than any of the other stuff they're doing with each other.
Host (Bert)
We're so skewed by what we see on tv, though. Like, you would imagine that every teenager at one point or another. Like, I thought that number was gonna be that 25% was low. Really? Everything I watch on TV just seems like these conversations are happening every six minutes.
Jeff
If you watch Dateline, you would think that. That, that's. That's as common as going to the mall.
Jen
Yeah, that's so scary to me. Cause teenagers making out and you know it. Exploring each other's bodies and, you know, figuring each other out or whatever, like, their little relationships scare me a lot less than that.
Host (Bert)
Had sex with somebody younger than 16. One in four. The teen said yes, they had. And remember, the test group here are teens between the ages of 13 and 18. So had sex with someone younger than 16. 25% said yes, their parents answered 5%. Had sex while on drugs or alcohol. The teens answered 24%, the parents answered 15%. Bought porn. Teen answered 21%. Parents answered 4%.
Jen
So I wonder how they can buy it, though, because aren't you supposed to be carded for that?
Host (Bert)
Can't you get it on the Internet by just, like, putting the date of birth on? Maybe.
Melissa
Well, and also, you can't rule out older siblings.
Jen
That's true.
Melissa
That's how.
Jeff
Or buying it from somebody in high school, like, doesn't have to be a sibling. You know, somebody brings it in or can steals or dads.
Melissa
But usually. But usually it's a sibling of somebody, you know, like, that's usually how it works.
Jeff
Not for me, thank God. Jason Watson's dad was a huge.
Melissa
Oh, God.
Host (Bert)
And he knew exactly where the drawer was. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You parents have to know the first time you go away for a weekend. We are so going through all your stuff.
Jeff
It's like CSI.
Host (Bert)
Yeah. Watched others having sex. The teens answered 18% said yes. The parents answered 2%. That's a nasty one to think about right there of your teen. Jeff, I'm going to need the voice disguiser for this, please. Good morning, Michelle. You're on Q100.
Anna
Hey, how are y' all doing this morning?
Host (Bert)
Good, thank you. You were on the voice disguiser.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
Awesome.
Anna
Well, I'm not a parent. I'm a hairstylist. But I have a client. I do her and her teenage daughter. She's a really nice lady, but I can't believe that there's somebody out there so naive. Her daughter is in high school and is a lesbian. We're talking buzz haircut talk. You Would never know that this girl was a girl. Like when she came in for a haircut, I had to ask if she was a men's cut or women's cut. Anyway, her girlfriend lives with them.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
The other.
Anna
The penis daughter's girlfriend lives with them, stays in the room with her. But her mother is just helping this girl out while she's going through a hard time. And they're just best friends, but in.
Host (Bert)
Reality they're girlfriends and they're living right there in the same room, and the parent has no idea what is going on.
Anna
And I, you know, I've even questioned, you know, thrown out little things, trying to figure out if this woman really has any idea. She doesn't.
Melissa
Mm.
Jen
Is that. That she doesn't know or she just chooses not to see it?
Anna
See, that's what I was trying to figure out. I really don't think she could ever think her daughter with, you know, that lifestyle.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
I just.
Anna
This is, you know, good suburban mom, stays at home, you know, middle class. I just.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
I don't.
Anna
I don't know if she doesn't accept it or she just really has no idea.
Melissa
I don't think moms are. I don't think moms are stupid. But I do think, like Jen said, sometimes I think that that's not a scenario that they could ever. They don't want. And so they maybe push it outside of their minds. But it's gnawing at her a little bit. But I. Yeah, but having a woman, if she had any question and she has somebody. No, no.
Host (Bert)
Hey, Rebecca, hold on one sec. Okay.
Anna
All right.
Host (Bert)
Had sex on your parents bed. Oh. 16% of the. The teen said yes. The parents, 1%. There's no way my child would have sex on my bed. No way. You're wrong. In 16% of the cases, taking pictures during sex or sexual activity, 15% of the teens said yes. They had parents answered 1%. Again, not even in the same ballpark. Hey, Rebecca.
Anna
Hey.
Host (Bert)
What's up?
Anna
No, I was just calling to say that I definitely don't think parents have any idea. Like, me and my friends, we get away with so much because our parents are completely oblivious to what's going on.
Host (Bert)
In what way?
Anna
Like any kind of ways. In, like partying and sexual ways. Like, my mom has no idea.
Host (Bert)
Like, what are you doing? And you're on the voice disguiser. What are you doing that your mom has no idea about? And how old are you?
Anna
I'm 16.
Host (Bert)
Okay, so what are you doing your parents have no clue about?
Anna
I've done Everything. I've had a boyfriend for two years and we've done everything. So my mom. And my mom has no idea that we've done. Like, she thinks that we've made out and that's about it.
Jen
Do you guys do anything for protection?
Anna
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Jen
Do you always use condoms?
Anna
Uh huh.
Host (Bert)
You've been having sex with this guy since you were 14?
Anna
No, we just started having sex last summer.
Melissa
Okay.
Host (Bert)
And your parents have absolutely no idea. You're their angel. You could never do this.
Anna
Definitely, like, no idea.
Jen
Now are you going to a doctor? Because usually when you start becoming sexually active, girls need to go to the gynecologist for the first time.
Anna
No.
Melissa
Let me ask you a question, Jer.
Jen
And not talking to your mom about.
Melissa
It, you know, if your mom was. Okay.
Anna
That's why, like, here's the thing. Like, I feel like the parents can't relate. Like, if I felt like that my mom would be understanding and, like, be able to relate to me, I think that I would talk to her about it, but she would, like, completely go off the wall.
Host (Bert)
So I think this is a great phone call for parents to be listening to right now. I think you're a great example. And I'm so happ. You called.
Melissa
Yeah, because that was my question. If your mom came to you to talk about it in a comfortable, you're not going to get in trouble environment, you would tell her everything?
Anna
Probably. I don't know if I would tell her everything, but I would tell her more than.
Host (Bert)
What do you think her reaction would be if you told her the truth?
Anna
Oh, she. She wouldn't even believe it. Like, I honestly think that she would, like, I can like, joke around and say stuff and we would just laugh about him. She would be like, yeah, right.
Jen
Is it hard to keep that from your mom?
Anna
Not really. Just because I know how much, like. And it's not even like, trouble. It's like disappointment too.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
But what.
Jen
I mean, is it hard for you to keep that secret? Is it something kind of bubbling up inside of you, like, kind of stresses you out?
Anna
Not really.
Jen
No.
Host (Bert)
Does she even know that you have this boyfriend?
Anna
Yeah. Oh, she does.
Host (Bert)
Okay.
Anna
He comes over all the time and everything.
Jeff
But have you guys ever done it in the house while they're home?
Anna
My. Let me think. Well, my grandma lives in the basement and we done it while she's been home.
Melissa
I was just keyed in on something she said for, like, you talk about parents listening. Like, it's not just getting in trouble, but the disappointment. Because I think parents have to realize, I mean, and I'm not saying it's not hard, but you're the parent. You're the parent and this is your job. And your job is to know that your child is going to end up being an adult and that you can't be disappointed when they become an adult.
Jen
Would it be a huge relief for you to tell your mom?
Anna
I think that it would make us like closer. I think that like, if I could share that with her, I would. But.
Host (Bert)
That total disconnect, like on a day to day, do you guys have like daily talks or are you just going your way and she's going her other way and that's.
Anna
Oh no, me and my mom are really close. Like we like, we do stuff all the. Like we do stuff together all the time. Like I went and ran errands with her the other day.
Host (Bert)
So it's not a case where you guys are totally disconnected from each other. And Jen's kind of like shaking her head yes.
Jen
Yeah, that's like the big secret that you feel like you have to keep from them. And it's so hard because your parents for the longest time, I think, still see you as a kid when you really are becoming a young adult. And it's that, it's that borderline. It's like them, you know, it's them crossing that threshold of seeing you as an adult and you want them to treat you as an adult, but you're still living in their home as their kid. So you have to still follow their rules. It's such a struggle. It's such a difficult time. I think it was the hardest time in my life was being a teenager, like from junior year until I went to college. It's just difficult, you know.
Host (Bert)
Hey Rebecca, thanks for calling. Really appreciate it. All right, great call. Thanks. Tell grandma we said hi now. I kind of like checked out for a second. Did she say she had sex in the house while grandma was there?
Jen
Yeah. Grandma lives in the basement.
Leah
Right?
Jeff
You didn't check out. You remembered you had a kid and.
Host (Bert)
You just chose to write Selective hearing.
Jeff
Right.
Host (Bert)
More of this. Undressed somebody. The teen said 56% of them said, yes, I've undressed somebody. What do you think the parents said 2%. 2% was 11%. 11.
Melissa
Wow.
Jen
Okay.
Host (Bert)
The basic question. Had sexual intercourse? Half of the teens had. Over half. 55% of them had. The parents were at a 26% clip. Experienced sexual activity while in bed with someone. 51% parents said 16% watched an X rated movie with a member of the opposite sex. 46 of the teens said yes. Only 9% of the parents and had sexual intercourse without a condom. 29 of the teens said, yeah, we've done that. 1 in 3 parents, 1%.
Melissa
Now I find it fast. It's too bad we don't know who the parents are because it's like, okay, have you talked to your children about condoms? You know, like, if they haven't talked to their kids about condoms, but yet they assume, well, there's no way they have sex without condoms, then. Well, of course. I mean, again, the line of communication has to be open.
Jen
Yeah.
Host (Bert)
And I said this on Friday too, and I think I feel even more strongly about it today is that I think because of the way that I grew up, I am going to assume he's doing more wrong than he probably is. Like, I'll err on the other side.
Jeff
I thought of that when you were doing the survey and you talking about how many people you know just had had sex and 26% of the parents said they thought their kid did. What percentage of those parents were wrong, like their kid wasn't doing it? Oh, yeah, I definitely, I wouldn't say if this wasn't an animal survey. My daughter's got a slut.
Anna
I know it.
Host (Bert)
Hey, Charity, Good morning. You're on Q100.
Anna
Good morning, Burt show.
Host (Bert)
Hi.
Anna
I started listening Friday morning because I write in every morning with you guys to work.
Jen
Oh, thank you.
Anna
And I have an 11 year old and it's really funny because Thursday night we had to have the tongue kiss, question and answer conversation because she saw her girlfriend at school kissing her boyfriend with tongue. And I remember, you know, I'm a young parent, so it's not like it's past that long. You know, from what I remember what my friends were doing, and I think because of that I'm able to talk to her. But I asked her, I said, what do you think so and so has told her mom and what else are her and her little boyfriend doing? And the conversation went somewhere I never expected it to go for an 11 year old.
Host (Bert)
11 year old, where did it go? 11 years old, where did it go?
Anna
He has fondled her little friend's brats. And I mean, there's been what you would call heavy petting going on between the two of them. And we saw the boy girl movie last year in fifth grade. That was mandatory before entering junior high school. And so there was some great conversation between me and my little person, but that was just something I was completely unprepared for. At 11 years old.
Host (Bert)
Yeah. It's just getting younger and younger and younger. There was a time where parents were like, I can't believe kids are doing this at 17.
Jen
Right now we're down to 11 for having that conversation.
Anna
But it's very scary.
Leah
It's.
Anna
Now, you don't expect to have that.
Host (Bert)
No doubt.
Melissa
Do you think that you're. Now, I'm not saying this about your daughter, but do you think your daughter presents it as if her friend's doing it when she's trying to open the conversation about her?
Anna
I was a little bit scared of that, but because of the dialogue that her and I have together. And I know that she's not currently seeing or crushing anybody, as she calls it, just because we moved here. She hasn't met a lot of friends yet. And I've been very involved at school and getting her settled because we are so new to the area. She's not had an opportunity to meet any little people. And I'm just hoping that by being very honest and open with her that I can encourage her to keep talking to me about things like this.
Jeff
Took her playing a game of the. The Sims.
Host (Bert)
What's that? The little people.
Melissa
My little person hasn't made friends with.
Jeff
Any other little people.
Melissa
Her little boyfriend.
Host (Bert)
You know, I'm wondering if I'm gonna play a couple of commercials here. I'm wondering if, when we come back, if we can find somebody that is a parent that has not had the quote unquote, talk with their kids yet to call us up. We'll talk to you a little bit and then you go home today or tonight and have the talk and then come back with us tomorrow morning and let us know how it went. Because there has to be some reason why you've been reluctant to do it. And I'm really curious if after 24 hours, if you're glad you did it, was it uncomfortable? Did it go the way you thought it was gonna go?
Jen
Or like her, Your perception before the talk and after the talk is much different on what your child's already doing.
Host (Bert)
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Host (Bert)
Tanya, how old is your child?
Anna
He is 11.
Host (Bert)
He is 11. So your son is 11 years old?
Sandra (Private Investigator)
Yes, like I was. And I have tried to have a talk with him, but he is so shy and passive that he just complete. You could see it in his face. He just freaks out. And I know that he's just getting to that age. He's gonna, you know where he's gonna start doing stuff and that Just stresses me out big time. So I really don't know. I'm trying to approach it in every which way I can, but he's just, he just backs out. He just stresses out on it.
Host (Bert)
Like, I don't, I don't even know where you start the conversation. You sit him down, you go, there's something serious I gotta talk to you about.
Jeff
He started in the kitchen. By yourself with about three beers?
Sandra (Private Investigator)
Yeah. Really? No, he, he came home the other day and he said, mom, I'm. I'm done with girlfriend number two. I'm on girlfriend number three. And I'm like, what, what are you talking about? And then, you know, and yet he won't talk to me about, you know, sex. So it's starting to really worry me because like you said, I have no idea what he's doing at school during recess or, you know.
Host (Bert)
Right.
Melissa
Well, if your initial reaction is what, then maybe that might.
Host (Bert)
Yeah, that's, that's gonna be uncomfortable. But it's way more comfortable than him coming home saying, hey, I got somebody another 12 year old or a 13 year old pregnant. So.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
Yeah, well, no, I didn't freak out when he told me about the girlfriend thing. Trust me, I had the poker face, but inside I was like, oh, you little pervert. You know, But I just, I mean, I, to, to approach it, you know, as best I can.
Host (Bert)
Right.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
But you know, like I said, I definitely, I mean, listening to that stuff this morning, I just don't, you know, I got pregnant when I was young and I just don't want him to have to deal with that also, you know.
Jen
So what is it that you think he knows about already? And what is it that you guys are going to talk about tonight?
Sandra (Private Investigator)
I don't know. He did ask me about girls periods the other day so that I could maybe start off with that little conversation.
Leah
I don't know.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
But I mean, it's, it's better than nothing. So. But as far as, you know, oral and intercourse and all that, I really, I couldn't tell you how, how far in depth he knows. I mean, he may know more than I think he does.
Host (Bert)
You know, it may be one of those things where, I mean, and we're going back quite a way, so I don't really recall what I knew or didn't know at 11, but I like new rumors of things, you know.
Anna
Right.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
Like I think what I'm saying, I was trying to think about his age and how much I knew and you know, I don't want him to get ideas from other kids in school, you know, like, you can get pregnant standing up, that kind of stuff, you know? But I just, you know, it worries me just like any other parent out there, you just. You don't want to be a young grandparent. You don't want to mess their lives up, so you try to do the best you can, you know?
Host (Bert)
Yeah. These are the ages where you can get it all twisted. I think we've talked about this on the show before, where one parent was telling his teen or his preteen daughter, like when she was 11 years old that she could get pregnant by just sitting on a guy's lap because he saw his daughter on the lap of a guy at the mall. So he didn't want that to happen anymore. And she went. She went who knows how long, really thinking that was the truth, you know?
Sandra (Private Investigator)
No, I'm pretty laid back. I'm not embarrassed at all talking about it, not one bit. But he's one that just, I think is more uncomfortable with me approaching him. I don't know, maybe I can get my fiance to do it. I mean, maybe he.
Melissa
No, that's your job. And it may be uncomfortable, but it has to be done. I think that's the reason so many parents avoid the conversation. But I mean, you know, and I would say this even if I was a parent. That is your job, that you are a parent. You made the conscious decision to have a child. So you have to make these tough. You have to have these conversations to make the tough choices.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
I totally agree. Totally agree. But I will when I get off of work tonight, try to pry him away from wrestling, have that important conversation, and I get back with you guys tomorrow and see what he says.
Host (Bert)
Okay.
Jeff
Did we find out how old did we get that?
Host (Bert)
Yeah, he's 11.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
Yeah, he's 11.
Host (Bert)
All right, Tanya, hold on one second. Would love to talk to you again tomorrow morning. Okay.
Anna
Okay.
Host (Bert)
All right. You'll be our test group. And Leah, also willing to have the talk tonight? Leah, how old is yours? It a son or daughter we're talking about?
Leah
She is 11.
Host (Bert)
11 years old. And you haven't had the need to have the talk with her yet?
Sandra (Private Investigator)
No.
Leah
You know, I've been thinking about it, and then over the weekend, a couple of things have come up that I've decided I definitely need to. One is her best friend told her what explained the oral sex was to her.
Melissa
Okay.
Leah
Which was really upsetting that she wasn't real thrilled that she found that out already. But then this morning, she showed me and diamond earrings that her 11 year old little crush boyfriend gave her. And you know, I think it's kind of inappropriate for 11 year old to be giving diamond earrings to somebody, you know, that's typically. Why did you. What would you have done to deserve diamond earrings?
Host (Bert)
They can't be real diamonds, right?
Leah
So I took them from her. You know, I told her we talk about it tonight and they're in a freedman's little box. Like they're actually real. So I'm not real sure if he took them or if he actually got them for her.
Host (Bert)
If they're really. I'm guessing he didn't.
Jen
Wow.
Melissa
Higher than they used to be.
Host (Bert)
I know, right?
Jeff
Melissa wants to date that guy.
Host (Bert)
Those are the tactics that I'm employing to get something. So you haven't had the talk yet and I'm curious, is the talk between mother and daughter way different than the talk with mother and son?
Leah
Well, I have an 8 year old son, so I'll let you know.
Host (Bert)
That's coming up.
Leah
And I am a single mother, so I'll be doing the talk for both. Yeah, you know, I think it's probably is going to be easier to talk to my daughter than it will be my son.
Melissa
There has to be like a. I don't know, I would assume there probably is a little more of an embarrassment if it's a son having your mom talk to you about this or if a dad's trying to talk to the daughter about this, then it would be the other way.
Leah
Oh yeah, I can imagine. When I was younger, my dad tried to talk to me. I couldn't even get him to go to the store, you know, for tampons.
Melissa
Right.
Host (Bert)
Well, at least you're hearing the signs, you know, I mean, you heard her say that a friend was talking to her about this, so now is the time to, to have the talk.
Leah
Yeah, yeah. You know, they, they want to go to the park. And you see that when we have. You know, my kids are very involved in sports because I try to keep them away from things. And you know, so she plays softball and cheerleading and basketball and. But in between, you see all the boys just crowd around watching. You know, I noticed all the football players are in a group around the cheerleaders now, paying more attention to them than they are to their own game. She's 11. She's 11. She will be 12 in December. All of her friends are already turning 12. They've all started their periods. My daughter has not. And I can tell, you know, the ones that have are just their Behavior is getting a lot more progressive than I, you know, I would like to see. I. I don't think when I was 11 and 12, that was what was on my mind.
Host (Bert)
I'm curious how you feel like you're going to approach the conversation.
Leah
Well, she and I like to. To walk. You know, we go to the park and walk. So I'm thinking that might be a good place because there won't be other people around. We don't have to worry about her brother embarrassing her. You know, we can just kind of do our little own thing and chat while we're walking. You know, I'm gonna start with of course. Why. I'd like to know why she got diamond earrings.
Jen
Well, I wouldn't. I don't know if I'd start that way because that already puts her on the defense for getting in trouble.
Leah
Right? Yeah. And, you know, I'm not mad at her. She wasn't in trouble this morning. I just. I told her we probably just should talk about it tonight, and she's probably.
Melissa
Gonna stress about that all day. I think Jen's right. Like, you know, the child. Child. I guess not children. Now, the kid we talked to earlier was talking about how she would be more open to her mom if she knew that one she wasn't getting trouble, but one. She what her mom was not disappointed in her.
Leah
Yeah. Now, Casey, my daughter would not feel that way. I don't think we are very close. Very open. And I mean, I've always told her that, you know, as long as I can remember, to be very open with anything. You know, I'm always going to listen to her. And her friends would actually probably come to me before they go to their own parents.
Jeff
Should we, like for her. Who's going to have the conversation tonight? Should we find a parent who had the conversation to guide her? Because we're sitting here telling. Well, I don't think you should say that about the diamond earrings. But what do we know? We've never.
Host (Bert)
The only. The only calls that are coming in are from people telling you that there are two books that you can actually do. Some, like a crash test study tonight. You can cram for your. Your conversation tonight. Hey, Ann.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
Hi.
Host (Bert)
Good morning.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
I love you guys.
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Host (Bert)
Thank you for calling.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
And actually, the books are not for the parents.
Leah
The books are for the kids.
Host (Bert)
Okay?
Sandra (Private Investigator)
They were given to me. I gave them to my kids. One of them is called Where Did I Come From? Which tells you in plain, simple English where babies come from. There's cute little cartoon drawings. Nothing Too graphic. Tells you what happens after you get pregnant. Right on to when the baby's born. And then what's happening to me. Talks about the changes both in boys bodies and in girls bodies. Again with the same kind of cartoon drawings. They're wonderful. I gave them to my kids, said, here, I want you to look at these. After you look at them, we'll talk if you have questions.
Host (Bert)
They're impactful. I was telling these guys that the only conversation that I think I ever had with my mom about this is I remember her breaking out some kind of sketchbook back in the day. They were like stick figures doing it. But I mean, I still kind of remember the pictures in my head. So it is impactful, you know.
Melissa
Well, I mean, so many women, you know, are so grateful to Judy Blume for all her books because I don't.
Host (Bert)
Have where they are.
Melissa
I remember those I just had.
Jen
Where? Where?
Melissa
You know, where are you, God? It's me, Margaret. Margaret and forever. And that's how I learned about periods and sex and all that stuff.
Host (Bert)
All right, Leah, let's check back with you tomorrow morning after you have the talk with your 11 year old daughter.
Leah
Okay, I'll do that.
Host (Bert)
All right, thanks a lot and hold on one sec. Good luck. Bye. Bye. Yeah, good luck.
Leah
Okay.
Host (Bert)
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Host (Bert)
We all have one in our past dating Antichrist. This is the person that you completely sold out for. Doesn't matter how abusive they were in the relationship, how bad the relationship was, how many times they figuratively slapped you in the face. You went back time and time again and sold out time and time again.
Melissa
I thought, I, I thought earlier, it is like in elementary school, the bully that takes your lunch money, that's who you dated and you kept giving the lunch money and then eventually you felt bad about yourself. But because you, you kept giving him the money and he never stopped. And then they ended up leaving you.
Host (Bert)
We make the offer to you guys. That's how it always ends too, right? The final slap in the face as they take off. So we make the offer to you guys. If you have like this morbid curiosity just to know what's going on in their life, give us a call. We will turn it over to our private investigator, who is Sandra over at Machex, that you guys can use personally also. And she will find this person and we will tell you exactly how they're doing on Friday. We talked to Tina and this was her story and her dating Antichrist story. Hey, Tina.
Anna
Hi.
Host (Bert)
How long was the relationship?
Anna
It was only a year and a half.
Host (Bert)
Give us some examples of why this guy is absolutely your dating Antichrist.
Anna
He was definitely verbally abusive. I was really tiny, maybe £100. We went on vacation one time and he kicked me across the room because I was talking to people that he met in a bar and then in Atlanta. We lived in Atlanta and my friends and I were out one night and he got really, really upset that we were out. And he kept saying, come home, come home. He caused this huge scene in the bar and said, if you don't come home, I'm bringing my gun down there and I'm gonna Get you back out of that bar. Everything you can imagine that a psycho would do to you, that's what he did.
Host (Bert)
This guy literally put a gun to your head.
Anna
Well, I mean, if you want the real crazy part of the story, yes. And I finally was like, just do it. It's better than being with you.
Host (Bert)
Oh, wow.
Anna
And so my roommate called the cops and this person was not supposed to have a gun. And he freaked out because I found out later on in the relationship that he was a convicted felon.
Host (Bert)
Oh God. So chances are pretty good. I mean, a guy like this doesn't generally turn it around and become a priest, you know. So I have a feeling we're not going to find out. Great information here. Jeff, can you turn the voice disguiser on?
Jeff
Indeed.
Host (Bert)
This is Tina's mom, actually. Ann. Hey, Ann. Good morning.
Anna
Good morning.
Host (Bert)
There's probably more at stake here for you than there is your daughter.
Anna
Tina called in because I asked her to. I've always been terrified of this man because he is evil. And for the 18 months she dated him, every time the phone rang, my heart would stop. I thought this would be the call that she was dead.
Host (Bert)
Really?
Anna
Yeah, he was really bad. And two, our family wasn't equipped to handle this type person. Her dad and I had never run across anybody like this. And Gwenha was so strong minded, we just couldn't understand how he had taken over control of her. Her first was leave me alone. You know, And I just. It was unbearable because the child he threatened to rape at that time was seven months old. Oh God.
Melissa
Oh no.
Anna
That he was gonna have rape with seven months old.
Host (Bert)
Okay.
Anna
And so he is a sleaze. I wish I had an extra service that if he's still alive and affected on the young lavish, I could just have him exterminated. He doesn't need to be walking the face of the earth. But really Tina did this for me because I've always worried and now my granddaughter is 12 and you know, I worry about her being out there and him still doing something that crazy, just slipping back in town because after they broke up he would actually, we would actually see him in the neighborhood chasing our house. So she did this for my peace of mind because I would really like to know he was in jail and that he hadn't hurt anybody else.
Host (Bert)
Yeah, this kind of fear can't really go away when you know you're dealing with this kind of evil. Like I, I don't know how you can ever like really tie up loose ends unless you know that the guy is in jail. You know, that's.
Anna
And like I say, when he kicked her across the room, he was a black belt kickboxing champion.
Host (Bert)
Good God, this guy. You talk about evil.
Melissa
My God.
Anna
And then the other problem, you know, is my husband and his friends were always plotting how they could do a man. You know, the fight was, you can't do that. But because he'll win. He might be dead, but you'll be doing time in jail. You can't do that. And we had to be there for Glenna. We actually had a team that when she would call and say, okay, I'm moving out, we had friends that would show up and help us move around.
Host (Bert)
Was there anything.
Jeff
Let's go. Like, some people have that when they get married. He proposed. Okay, let's go. And then all the girls entered the house, and they're playing and everything. They've got the same thing, though, but for the end of the relationship.
Host (Bert)
Let's go.
Jeff
You get the furniture. You pack up her clothes.
Host (Bert)
Is it the kind of thing like, you just used to get, like, mad at her time and time again when she used to go back? Because not only is she putting herself in harm's way, but, I mean, you're talking about the whole family.
Anna
But he had a control over her, and we did know that he had. That he was evil. He had a badge that he would flash to the policeman. The night that he pulled the gun on her, she actually, he. The police were on his side.
Host (Bert)
Whoa. That's how the dating Antichrist works. You can get the police to work on your side also.
Anna
Okay. You mean I forgot to get into work? I got set up for a meeting.
Host (Bert)
Okay.
Anna
But thank you for doing this for her.
Melissa
Thank you, Anne. Sorry. I hope we have works out.
Host (Bert)
Yeah. I hope we have good news for you.
Anna
All right, thank you.
Host (Bert)
For whatever reason, we had Tina on the phone, but I think her phone has dropped out.
Jen
Okay.
Host (Bert)
So we're waiting to get her back on, but in the meantime, let's get Sandra from mate check back on.
Anna
Hello.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
Good morning.
Host (Bert)
Good morning. How are you?
Sandra (Private Investigator)
I'm just fine. How is Atlanta, Georgia, doing?
Host (Bert)
Doing okay. Hopefully you're gonna tell us it's a little bit of a safer place here in a couple of minutes. Sandra, while we're getting Tina back on the phone, for those that haven't heard this segment before, tell them exactly what it is that mate check does.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
MateCheck Private Investigations, which you can reach me at matecheckpi.com does do these kind of background searches. And after hearing this Story and finding out the information that I have found out on this person. I recommend that Atlanta, Georgia, everybody that you're seeing dating online, met at a bar, met through a friend, get a background search done. I mean, this could have saved Tina all this misery, her family, all this misery years ago if they would have known what kind of character he was or if somebody happened to be dating this character now, you'd certainly want to know what kind of person he is and what he has done, which he'd probably be capable of doing it again. So even though I do video surveillance and covert decoy work, I find people skip tracing, but I always mention to all my clients, get a background search. If you are dating somebody or met somebody, because you never know. And you can ask Tina who they're.
Host (Bert)
Going to be now you can hire mate, Check yourself. And we have linked on over to mate. Check from our website at all the hits q100.com Someone's responding to being on our website.
Melissa
They're calling her right now.
Host (Bert)
Yeah, I'm just curious, like, how long does a background check generally take you to do to get that kind of peace of mind for somebody you're going out with?
Sandra (Private Investigator)
Usually between three to five days. It all depends. It's a complete national background search. So it takes a while to run their social, which I can get. If the person doesn't have it, I really only need a little bit of information. A name, state they're in, a date of birth or approximate date. And then I have to pull up their social, run their social, and then it has to run through all counties and all courts and you'll get everything, traffic tickets, DUIs, registered sex offender, criminal, civil bankruptcies, liens, all the information that you want to know about a person that you're seeing.
Host (Bert)
Do you find that generally, like, let's say somebody's going out with a guy, right, and they really don't have anything, I mean, to be curious about. Like, guy seems like a straight up guy, but they go ahead, they hire you out. You find some really nasty stuff out about this guy that happened 15 years ago. Do you find that generally, what is it? A leopard doesn't change at spots?
Sandra (Private Investigator)
Well, absolutely, because if you will see the pattern in my background searches, if you'll see the past, now they're calling, like some people call and say, you know, this is not right, he's doing this and that and you know, the pattern is reoccurring. I had one case that this background came out that he had domestic violence, but it was some Years ago. And my client, the female client, said, well, that's okay. He seems nice to me and my son. And anyways, he ended up beating her so bad, she was in ICU and barely made it out of the hospital.
Host (Bert)
Oh, she's horrible. Awful, awful stories, man. All right, Sandra, I'm gonna put you on the voice disguise. Or only because I have to put Tina on the voice disguise. Or years now since she's gone out with the guy, yet she still has to protect her identity.
Melissa
Right.
Host (Bert)
Because she's still freaked out by this guy. Of course. Yeah. And you can totally understand it.
Jeff
Once you have a gun pulled on you, you're gonna be nervous for a while.
Anna
Right?
Jen
Understandable.
Host (Bert)
Hey, Tina.
Anna
Hey.
Host (Bert)
How are you doing?
Anna
Good.
Host (Bert)
What was it like for you to listen to your mom kind of tell about the time that you were going out with this guy?
Anna
Well, I think it makes me feel bad because obviously it was more traumatic for her. Like, I mean, it's bad for me, but I'm one of those people that I'm like, whatever, I got over it. I love my life now, so that's good for me. But, you know, it sucks that I hurt my parents like that.
Melissa
Yeah.
Host (Bert)
I mean, the whole family goes through something like that. And like you said, you just kind of lose yourself. Even your mom said you're this strong willed person, but somehow, some way, the dating Antichrist comes around and you just change your personality.
Anna
Right.
Host (Bert)
Some kind of grip on you. All right, Sandra, do you want to tell Tina here what you have found out about her dating Antichrist? And once again, Tina, this was how long ago that you dated this guy?
Anna
It was like 14 years ago.
Host (Bert)
Okay, so it was quite a while ago.
Anna
Hi, Tina. Sandy. Hi. Well, don't feel bad or, you know, tell your mother not to feel bad as well, because this type of person that you were dating can only overpower you and brainwash you because he is a very bad person. So take that, you know into consideration that it wasn't because you're weak or, you know, you never had a very, very bad person. So the reason why you had so many problems with him and kicking across the room and holding a gun to your head is because his charges he was in prison for was criminal interference with government property, and he possessed a firearm, a dangerous weapon. And these were all convicted felons that was convicted for. He was driving with a suspended, revoked license. He had simple battery. And also, like you said, he was impersonating an officer and also got convicted of felony of that as well.
Host (Bert)
Wow.
Jen
Is that all before she dated him or after?
Anna
This is probably. I don't say date, but this is probably during. Around the time. Okay, during, like, during or right before? I didn't know all those things. Right. Also, he was also charged with concealed weapon, of course, because he had his weapon concealed. So anyways, then he went to prison and got out of prison and then broke his probation, went back. Oh, my God, I didn't know any of this. Right. And so he was in and out of prison, you know, probation, back in jail. And then the latest thing that he had was disorderly conduct.
Host (Bert)
Was a what?
Melissa
Disorderly.
Host (Bert)
Oh, disorderly conduct.
Anna
Yes.
Host (Bert)
The timing of that jail that you're talking about, Sandra.
Anna
Yes.
Host (Bert)
Now, Tina has told us that that was about 14 years ago that she dated this guy. She said that 14 years ago. How long ago was he in jail and did he get out?
Anna
I don't want to say exact times and dates, but it was around that area that time. It was like he was. I know he was there for a couple of years at least, right?
Host (Bert)
Oh, yeah.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
Well, one sentence alone was.
Anna
He was convicted for three years, 16 months, 12 years, and they were all served concurrent, so. Meaning you have to serve them together, so. Yes.
Jen
Wow.
Host (Bert)
Is there anything on that record recently?
Anna
The only thing I said was recently was a disorderly conduct.
Jeff
And is that like just a ticket or is that jail time or.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
On his case, it was probably jail.
Anna
Time because of his record.
Host (Bert)
The one thing that was gonna give Tina and her mom some peace of mind is knowing that this guy isn't anywhere near them in Atlanta. Were you able to find out that information?
Anna
Yes, and appears he is not in Atlanta.
Jen
Is he in the state of Georgia?
Anna
No, he is not.
Host (Bert)
Oh, good. Good.
Melissa
So Tina's mom's going to feel a lot better. Yes.
Jen
How many states away could you. Like, how far?
Anna
I think I know. I think I know what state he's probably in, so I'd rather not say. Okay, Right. She's probably right. It's not far enough away. Right.
Host (Bert)
It would have to be continents to.
Anna
Be in a person like this. I don't know if any. Anything can be far enough away. It's just. It's very good that you got out safe and, like, you should recommend to anybody that, you know that's dating to get this background check first, because if you would have known this, you could have avoided all that pain and suffering up until this day.
Leah
So.
Anna
So is he not married, like, anything.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
You know, does he do the same.
Anna
Thing now that he used to do kids, you know? Yeah.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
Nope.
Anna
None of that. None of that. So probably the same thing over and over again. Well, you know, once you have this criminal record, finding a job is, like, zero. So, you know, a job for this person wouldn't be in his future unless he's working under the table. Some auto mechanic, something probably working, you know, under the table.
Host (Bert)
There's no indication that he got married or like you said, he's got a current job now that he owns a house. Nothing like that.
Leah
No.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
No property.
Host (Bert)
So loser across the board.
Anna
No vehicles either. But like I said, where is he.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
Gonna get a job?
Anna
I mean, you know, most jobs do a background search, and with this type of record, it's almost impossible.
Host (Bert)
So, Tina, you can walk away with this with your family knowing at least he's a safe distance away. He hasn't changed at all. Same guy. You didn't make a mistake, that's for sure. Breaking up with this guy, that was.
Anna
Never even a question in my mind. And the police were not on his side. It's just that he had a fake badge and he was impersonating an officer.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
Which he did go to prison for.
Anna
That was one of his. He did get sentenced for that. So, you know, they weren't on his side. He just had a fake badge. Right.
Host (Bert)
The hits just keep on coming.
Jeff
Yeah, well, if you're going down, go down hard.
Host (Bert)
Say that again, Tina.
Anna
My mom actually reminded me of that. She's like, did you ever tell me how to fake badge? And I was like, no, I totally forgot about that part. There's so many.
Host (Bert)
That's what we like to do, is bring up all the pleasant memories. All right, Tina, we'll let you go. You got the information that you want. You can have some peace of mind that the dude's nowhere near you anymore, and he's still as big a loser today as he was then.
Anna
He didn't lose anything.
Host (Bert)
He didn't lose anything.
Anna
Thank God. Right?
Host (Bert)
Right.
Anna
Thanks.
Host (Bert)
All right, Tina.
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Bye.
Anna
Thanks, Tina.
Host (Bert)
We could lose the voice disguiser. Okay, Sandra, once again, for those that want to hire you, the most controversial thing that Sandra does is she will actually go out and make sure your man is being loyal to you. Tell him how you do that.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
Well, how that works is that's a covert decoy. And if you feel that you want to know if your husband, boyfriend, or fiance, which I recommend, we want to find out if he would pick up on another woman if the opportunity was there, we have decoys that will wire themselves up, go to where he Will be working out at the gym, coming off of work, you know, wherever, golf and just approach yourself. Nothing sexual, just hi, how are you doing? I'm out of town, you know, where's the closest restaurant? And just see if he'll pick up on the decoy, what he will say if he'll ask the decoy out to lunch or dinner. And then it would be your choice if you'd want to see if he'd follow through with that and see what he would do if he did have the opportunity.
Host (Bert)
I'm curious because every time we talk to you, we talk about that service. I'm curious if there are any women in Atlanta that have hired you for that service since we've had you on.
Leah
Oh, of course I want to know.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
You know, it's funny because I was driving for the address and looking around, I look up, oh my God, the bird show.
Jeff
And what is the can you tell us if anybody has been busted yet in Atlanta.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
There? I have had some results. I've had some good background searches that I've done in Atlanta and saved some people like Tina before it has happened. And yeah, I've had some business Atlanta definitely and I have prevailed.
Jen
So I want to know who gets hired as the COVID decoy.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
Well, usually I do or I have other people that you know in different states and counties depending on where they're at or who they want. I'm just a 12 year veteran of decoys, so I kind of know how to get in and get it done.
Host (Bert)
So either you fly into Atlanta or you have a bank of people that you know here, a bank of hotties that'll go out and actually do the investigation for you.
Jeff
Yes, I have a certificate of deposit with the bank of hotties.
Anna
Yes.
Host (Bert)
All right, Sandra, once again it's May check. And we have linked right on over to her website from allthehitsq100.com thank you, Sandra.
Sandra (Private Investigator)
Well, thank you for having me on. You guys have a good week.
Host (Bert)
Appreciate it. Good work. Thank you. The Bert Show.
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Host: Bert
Cast: Melissa, Jen, Jeff, Anna, Leah, Sandra (Private Investigator)
Date: November 19, 2025
This episode dives into two core topics: young people's sexual behavior versus parental awareness, and a follow-up on a recurring "Dating Antichrist" segment where listeners investigate dangerous ex-partners. The hosts blend humor, candor, and real-life experiences with listener call-ins, creating honest discussion around difficult, often taboo, topics.
Segment Start: [01:33]
Memorable Quote:
"So not my little girl, she would never do that." – Bert ([02:24])
A 16-year-old caller (“Rebecca”/Anna) shares her secret sexual relationship, hidden from her close, but ultimately unapproachable, mother ([08:53] onward).
The difficulty of bridging the parent-teen communication gap is repeatedly underscored.
Segment Start: [20:38]
Segment Start: [32:39]
The episode balances humor and frankness, blending laughter about "the bank of hotties" and relatable parental anxiety with sobering stories of abuse and deep family concern. Candid, occasionally irreverent, but always authentic.
This episode of The Bert Show is an eye-opening, deeply relatable exploration of modern parenting in an age of rapid social change. Startling new stats reveal a dramatic gap between what teens are doing sexually and what their parents believe. Real teens—and candid parents—offer blunt truth about communication barriers. In parallel, a harrowing "Dating Antichrist" story warns listeners about abusive partners, with a private investigator driving home the value of vigilance and background checks.
Whether you’re a parent, former teen, or someone simply seeking entertaining, authentic conversation, this episode illustrates how vital—if often awkward—open communication and awareness truly are.