Full Show PT 3: Friday, March 6 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show - Full Show PT 3: Friday, March 6 [Vault]

Main Theme / Purpose:
This episode is a quintessential Bert Show mix of humor, real-life dilemmas, and engaging debates. The show deep-dives into three major segments: holding a caller accountable for repaying debt to his ex, a married listener’s moral quandary about an upcoming “girls trip” to Vegas, and the ethics (and opinions) around “racial profiling” in dating setups. The tone is laid-back, teasing, and sometimes contentious, with open dialogue among the hosts, listeners, and callers.

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1. Segment One: Holding “Nick” Accountable for Owed Money

Summary:
Nick, a previous caller, owes his ex-girlfriend $4,300 which he took and never returned. The Bert Show arranged a repayment plan, with a unique twist: if Nick misses or is late on payments, pieces of his photo will be posted online, Jigsaw-puzzle style, inching toward doxxing as a deterrent. Tensions rise when Nick makes a late payment, and the show debates whether to post his first puzzle piece.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

• Repayment Plan Details

  • Nick agreed to pay back $800 upfront, then $150 every paycheck (every two weeks).
  • If late, a puzzle piece of his face appears online, escalating toward full reveal and potentially his phone number.

• The Late Payment

  • Nick’s first $800 and next $150 were on time.
  • His subsequent payment was four days late, allegedly due to an emergency work trip (03:23–04:00).
  • Debate: Should exceptions be made for “life happens” moments, or should the precedent remain strict?

• Accountability vs. Empathy

  • Melissa: “If we give him three days this time…do we give him, then all of a sudden, we’ve created a pattern or whatever, that three days is acceptable.” (07:06)
  • Jeff: Argues for some flexibility, recognizing that life can get in the way once or twice (06:38).
  • Bert: “Bottom line…you’re the one that did this years ago…it’s $4,300 that you told you took from her years ago. If we're going to set a precedent here, that we're serious, then…some of that picture’s gotta go up.” (07:53)

• The Group Vote

  • Team votes on whether to post the first puzzle piece. Melissa, Bert, and Wendy say “put it up”; Krista and Jeff are against. (13:20)
  • Decision: First piece (an unidentifiable part—like “a shoulder”) will be posted. (08:47)

• Notable Quotes

  • Bert: “If we’re going to set a precedent here, that we’re serious about it, then it doesn’t matter what the circumstance is. Some of that picture’s gotta go up.” (08:17)
  • Jeff: “What’s his motivation to continue paying her back? And we want, ultimately, for her to get paid back.” (12:20)
  • Nick: “All right, let me slide this time. Next—there won’t be a next time. But should there be? Then do two squares.” (08:19)

Important Timestamps:

• [01:05] Nick reveals amount owed
• [03:23] Payment details and breach
• [07:06] Discussion: precedent and consequences
• [13:20] On-air vote for puzzle piece
• [14:36] Final thoughts and posting decision

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2. Segment Two: Listener “Amy” Faces Vegas Morality Dilemma

Summary:
“Amy” calls in (voice disguised), stressed about an upcoming trip to Vegas with childhood friends—all married, some with children. The trip, initially “harmless fun,” has evolved into plans by some of the group to “act single” and potentially hook up. Amy is torn between loyalty to lifelong friends and her values, unsure whether to go, confront them, or bail.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

• Amy’s Situation

  • Foursome of married women planning a Vegas trip.
  • Jokes about “whatever happens in Vegas” have become apparently genuine intentions to cheat (17:22, 18:28).
  • Amy: “I definitely do not want to be a part of that…I love my husband. I don’t want to do anything to damage our relationship, but I don’t even want to witness what they’re going to do because it’s just going to change everything.” (19:31)

• Hosts’ Advice and Listener Call-Ins

  • General consensus: risky business. “If you have any doubts, don’t do it. Find an excuse and back out.” – Caller Michelle (20:18)
  • Bert: “While things may not happen with you and somebody in Vegas, what you see in Vegas may change your relationship with not only your friends, then it’s gonna change the relationship with your friends’ husbands also. I wouldn’t even go.” (21:57)
  • Krista raises the fear of being guilty by association, especially if husbands ever find out (22:17, 24:42).
  • Wendy: Stresses honesty with friends—“I don’t see a problem if these are your sisters to say, I’m not comfortable with that. I don’t want to be a part of it. I don’t want to witness anything, so I’m just not going.” (23:46, 25:51)

• Moral Responsibility & Friendship

  • Is it better to be honest, or to make an excuse?
  • Will Amy lose her friends if she confronts them or doesn’t go?
  • Distinct differences between “women’s world” and “man’s world” friendships discussed humorously by Bert and Wendy (25:28–26:17).

• Notable Quotes

  • Amy: “I think I’m gonna lose these girlfriends because it’s gotten to the point where it’s like a pact.” (25:13)
  • Bert: “It seems to me there’s more risk in going than not. So why even put yourself in that position?” (23:29)

Important Timestamps:

• [17:22] Amy introduces her predicament
• [19:31] Amy’s dilemma deepens
• [20:12] Callers offer advice (“When in doubt, do without.”)
• [21:57] Bert advises not to go
• [25:13] Amy fears loss of friendship
• [26:26] Show promises to follow up post-trip

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3. Segment Three: Is “Racial Profiling” Okay in Dating Set-Ups?

Summary:
An irreverent debate erupts when Bert is accused (mainly by Melissa, jokingly) of being a “dating racial profiler.” He wants to set up a mutual friend who insists she’ll only marry an Indian man, but isn’t sure if his prospective match is of Indian descent. Is it okay to play Cupid based on ethnicity?

Key Discussion Points & Insights

• The Setup Dilemma

  • Bert struggles with determining the man’s ethnicity without offending him or coming off as awkward (28:24–29:17).
  • Melissa and Jeff argue this is definitional “profiling”—even if it matches the stated preference.
  • Wendy analogizes: “When I was single...people would set me up with the only other lesbian they knew.” (32:31)

• Ethics and Humor

  • The conversation pokes fun at superficial matchmaker logic (“If I meet a mid-20s Booshi, then I'm like, hey, he might be into Wendy. Whatever.” – Melissa, 29:46).
  • Hosts and callers agree there’s a difference between respecting someone’s preference and reducing people to only that trait.

• How to Find Out ("Is he Indian?")

  • Callers suggest using the last name, or letting the interested friend meet him and decide for herself (34:27–35:52).
  • Amusing solution: “Maybe you should take him to a deli…then at the end of the meal, go, let's have lunch next week, but we'll go to one of your restaurants.” (36:15)

• Notable Quotes

  • Melissa: “The only basis you have for setting those two people up is their nationality.” (31:16)
  • Bert: “You’re not gonna marry everybody you date.” (33:41)
  • Wendy: “Don’t bogart all the dudes.” (34:10)
  • Caller Amanda: “I have grandparents who are from very many backgrounds…I’m very proud of my background. You’d have to be pretty shallow not to be proud…so ask him, I’m sure he wouldn’t care…” (34:29)

Important Timestamps:

• [28:24] Bert explains his predicament
• [29:46] Melissa gives an example
• [32:31] Wendy’s analogy
• [35:52] Caller suggests friend can tell by the name
• [36:15] Deli joke
• [36:23] Segment wraps with laughs

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• The Puzzle Piece Threat: The creative and slightly menacing “puzzle piece” system for Nick’s debt accountability is one of the episode's most unique concepts.
• Amy’s Emotional Honesty: “I love my husband. I don’t want to do anything to damage our relationship, but I don’t even want to witness what they’re going to do…” (19:31)
• Profiled for Love: “Maybe you should take him to a deli…” – the show’s ability to keep thorny debates light and funny (36:15).

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Overall Tone and Takeaways

• Relentlessly real—banter is direct, sometimes blunt, but always with empathy and wit.
• Listeners will take away the importance of personal boundaries, accountability, and the value of honest, tough conversations—whether about money, friendship, or love.

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Listen to Important Segments:

• Debt Accountability & Puzzle Piece Debate: [01:05–14:39]
• Vegas Girls’ Weekend Dilemma: [16:31–26:32]
• Dating “Profiling” Ethics: [28:05–36:23]

Cast: Bert, Melissa, Wendy, Krista, Jeff, callers Amy and others

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Transcript

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We've earned our place in the fight for our nation's future. We are marines. We were made for this. Hey, the Birch Show. Let's try to recap this because it was a while ago, but Nick called us up and at the heartbeat of the closure call for him was that he. He kind of just left town on her. Remember this? He's going out with a girl for a while. Kind of took some money from her as well. Nick, how much money was.

[Nick]

Was $4,300.

[Bert]

$4,300. Never paid it back. And with our closure call, what we do is we give the ex the opportunity to come on and get the closure that they never got. So we got his ex girlfriend, but she didn't want to talk to him at all. She's like, I don't want anything to do with him. Took all that cash from me. I'm just past it.

[Caller Amy]

And.

[Jeff]

And because he wanted her to kind of tee off on him and maybe feel better about it and somehow at that stage, exonerate him from, you know, the sort of crimes he committed in their relationship.

[Bert]

It was years ago, and now he's just a different guy, and he's like, you know, what I could do to make this right is I could just make the payments to her. I can pay the money that I ripped her off of years ago. So we made that agreement, like you heard in the clip a couple of minutes ago. We said, look, if you're late on a payment or you miss a payment, here's what we're going to do. Give us a picture of yourself, which he has done. And every time you miss or you're late on a payment, we are just going to use it like it's a jigsaw puzzle and there'll be another piece to your picture up online and we'll start giving your phone number out as well. And he agreed to that?

[Wendy]

That's right.

[Bert]

He said yes. Okay.

[Jeff]

And at first did a Good job.

[Bert]

Yeah, Jeff, you're on. You're in on the logistics more than I am. So the first couple of payments were made on time, correct?

[Melissa]

Yep. I have them right here. Hold on. His first payment of $800 was paid on September 29, which is what he promised he was originally on the phone. That's a biggie. And then he was going to pay $150 with every paycheck, and he gets paid every other week, so $150 every two weeks after that. His first payment of $150 arrived on the 13th, no problem. But his payment of $150, that was scheduled on the 27th, which was last Monday, was not there. Tracy waited today. It still didn't come in. That's when she told you, Bert, we scheduled to come in on the show, but the payment actually didn't arrive until after we got off the air on Thursday. So he made the payment. So he's made all of his payments. The first one was $4, four days late. So the debate that we have amongst ourselves and with Nick on the phone is his agreement was every Monday because he gets paid on Friday, every other Friday. So the following Monday, the payment will be here. And Tracy did give him a one day. Whatever it's called cushion didn't work out. He's four full days late. Do we still put a piece of his face up online?

[Bert]

So an important piece of this for me is we called him to remind him that the payment was late, then he sent it. Or had he sent it before we called?

[Melissa]

He sent, well, he'll explain to you. But apparently he was traveling and just couldn't. Couldn't get it into us. But we didn't know ahead of time that he was traveling.

[Bert]

Hey, Nick, are you there? Yeah, hold on one second. Hey, Nick. Hold on one second.

[Wendy]

Hey, Nick, hold on.

[Bert]

Let me try this again. Are you there, Nick? Oh, no, we're having some problems with our phone.

[Wendy]

Hold on.

[Melissa]

Tracy to call him right back.

[Bert]

Yeah, let's try that might be something on my board here, Nikki there. Yeah, hold on.

[Jeff]

It just sound really far away.

[Bert]

Yeah, there's no way we can do a whole segment like that.

[Melissa]

We'll call him right back. So anyways, the debate is his argument is going to be. When we talk to him, his argument will be, well, I paid it. I paid it, but I was traveling and I didn't. It was unexpected trip and whatever, blah, blah, blah. But our argument is, well, we called you on Tuesday afternoon and said, hey, I think we actually call him on Wednesday during the show and said, hey, whatever. We need you to come on the air today because you didn't make your payment, and then all of a sudden, it shows up on Thursday. So my. My feeling is, this soon into it, it's his. Technically only his second scheduled payment, third schedule payment. Maybe we should show him we're serious.

[Krista]

But, I mean, it's in. I mean, he made the payment, but you gotta give somebody, like, a little bit of, like, what if something happened?

[Melissa]

Well, we'll find out from him if it did.

[Wendy]

Yeah, I'm curious to talk to him, too, because I'm like, much like Bird. I want to know how. What was the motivation to the payment based on we had to prod you or if it was, you know, you initiated it yourself.

[Melissa]

And I don't think Tracy would have even made an issue about it if he called her on, like, the day he was leaving and said, hey, my Monday payment won't be until Thursday. Then it wouldn't even be an issue because it's still a scheduled payment. Still would have. Come in.

[Bert]

Nick, you there?

[Nick]

I'm here.

[Bert]

All right, so the payment was late. We call to remind you, and then two days later, we get it into the studio.

[Nick]

That's right. I've got a. Basically, what happened on Saturday? My boss calls me, says he needs me out of town for an emergency thing that I had to go to. You know, it was last night. I just didn't think to call you guys because, you know, frankly, I was getting prepped and going out of town. So, you know, the minute I got back, I drove the check over to you, and, you know, I'm up to date right now. And, you know, when's my next payment? November 10th. You know, you're gonna have it right on time, just like normal. So I don't see what the big deal is, really.

[Wendy]

So you.

[Bert]

So waiting for 7 4, 1Q100.

[Wendy]

So you.

[Jeff]

We.

[Wendy]

We didn't call you before you drove the payment over. You brought it yourself as soon as you got back from town.

[Bert]

Okay, but you had. But Tracy left a message for you saying that I'm getting the timing of it wrong. So the phone. The message comes in from Tracy. Even though you're on the road, you realize that you hadn't sent the payment. And then as soon as you get home, you drive the payment here, right?

[Nick]

That's right.

[Bert]

So he did get a message.

[Jeff]

So he did get a reminder in order to do it. I don't know. I tend to lean with Wendy and cut him a Break. Because, I don't know, I try to be flexible with people in my life that have to reschedule things, whatever appointments or yada, yada. Cause life gets in the way. But.

[Melissa]

But using his argument, he does have some leeway. Like the. The square of the picture. You've seen it, right, Melissa? Like, the segment of the picture that would go online doesn't reveal anything.

[Bert]

It's not his face yet. I mean, it's just his face.

[Melissa]

And I think that's. I think if we're gonna stick to it, because if we give him three days this time, and I'm sorry to be hard on you, but if we give him three days this time because he went out of town, then do we give him. Then all of a sudden we've created a. A pattern or whatever, that three days is acceptable. So if he's ever three days late again, he could say, well, last time he didn't put my face up. So I think we just put it up.

[Krista]

But sometimes things just happen. Like, that just happened. Like, did you have an opportunity to go to a mailbox and drop something off before you went out of town? Like, after you got the message, was there a chance for you to go drop it off?

[Nick]

I mean, again, it was like Saturday afternoon. So I guess I could have.

[Caller Amy]

Sure.

[Nick]

But still wouldn't have arrived there on Monday. There's no service on Sunday, you know, which is why I've been bringing it over personally to drop it off.

[Bert]

I'm with Jeff. I feel like being hard guy on this whole thing.

[Melissa]

I mean, I don't think it's being hard.

[Bert]

Well, I mean, the bottom line really is. I mean, you're the one that did this years ago. And I think there was a. Yeah, I mean, it was. It's $4,300 that you told you took from her years ago. The picture that we're gonna put up today, or the part of the picture doesn't reveal who you are, but it's certainly. I mean, the next one might. And I think if we're gonna set a precedent here, that we're serious about it, then it doesn't matter what the circumstance is. Some of that picture's gotta go up. That's the agreement we made.

[Nick]

All right, let me slide this time. Next. There won't be a next time. But should there be? Then do two squares.

[Bert]

It's not the agreement we made.

[Melissa]

I think we put one square up this time, and then you will ensure that there won't be a next time. Because, I mean, the picture doesn't show anything, right, Melissa, Even if you knew that guy.

[Wendy]

It's a puzzle piece. It's one of the. If you were doing a puzz puzzles, the puzzle piece, you're like, where does this go? So dark. I don't understand this. So I think it's like a shoulder.

[Bert]

So it doesn't reveal anything. So not putting one up now doesn't effectively do anything more than just putting this one that we have up. Except we are closer to it. Good morning, Q100.

[Caller Amy]

Hey, good morning.

[Bert]

Good morning.

[Melissa]

What kind of work does this guy do that his boss will call him up on a Saturday, say, look, man, I need to go out of town

[Caller Amy]

with that prior notice?

[Bert]

Nick, what do you do?

[Nick]

Business, actually.

[Melissa]

What? What kind of business?

[Wendy]

You said it's none of your business.

[Bert]

It's none of your business.

[Melissa]

Okay, see, there you go.

[Caller]

He's lying.

[Caller Amy]

You don't have to. Okay, well, he's lying, dude.

[Nick]

I'll just say it's sales related. And as in a lot of sales jobs, you know, things will come up where you gotta go meet clients.

[Bert]

Good morning. Anna, you're on Q100.

[Caller]

Hey, I just wanted to say I do collections for a doctor's office. This all the way into it. We would never let this happen. If he was making consecutive payments for maybe six months, then it would be a different story. But not deserved payments.

[Jeff]

This would be a sliding scale for you.

[Caller]

Absolutely. I mean, that makes sense.

[Melissa]

We don't really have a pattern that he's reliable yet. Like, I agree with her. I would have a different attitude. If we were 10 weeks into it and he was three days late. Then you're like, okay, cool, you've made $1,500 more than that $2,300 worth of payments. And now you're late on 150, no problem. But with this one, your second scheduled payment, that's tough.

[Bert]

And I think it sends a message. I think it really sends a message that if you're a late, doesn't matter why that picture's going up, even though this. And I like it. Especially because the first piece going up doesn't reveal at all who he is.

[Melissa]

And it just shows him that we're not going to accept that type of behavior. Like, pick up the phone and call Tracy, leave her a voicemail and go, I just got like, on your way to the airport, make the call. Call the front desk of the radio station, ask for a voicemail, Leave a message. This isn't an issue. He couldn't even do that.

[Caller]

Go ahead Krista, I think you guys are being way too hard on this guy. I mean, he's got his payment in. I think that you guys are just being way too hard on him. I mean, stuff happens. And, you know, if he was really traveling, I think you guys should give him the benefit of the doubt. Let him go this time. If it happens again, then you can do it. But, I mean, I think you guys are just being way too rough on him.

[Melissa]

I think Wendy and I had the same thought at the same time.

[Krista]

Well, no, I agree. I agree with her, though.

[Melissa]

Okay, well, then why don't you. Will you fax Tracy within the hour the printout from the airline that shows that you traveled?

[Nick]

Yeah, I can do that.

[Bert]

Okay.

[Melissa]

And if it doesn't come to me, it's still inconsequential.

[Krista]

I mean, I get why he doesn't want to reveal his job, because that may reveal who he is, just if it's a different job. But, like, he did make the. Like he got the payment in. I. I think if he wouldn't have answered the phone or if he didn't send a payment in at all, or he just ignored calls, then I think that was a different deal. But he did send in the payment. He is answering the phone calls, and he did schedule to come on the show. So, I mean, he's showing effort, and he still got it in. So, I mean, cut him. I'm.

[Wendy]

I don't know.

[Bert]

This is.

[Krista]

I'd want to be cut.

[Melissa]

What if it was your money?

[Krista]

Well, I mean, you gotta give people the benefit of the doubt, though. I'd want to be cut a break just if something happened.

[Melissa]

No, what if it was your money and this guy has $4,300 of your money that you are owed that he took from you and he is promised again. How many times has he probably promised the original girl that he'd pay it back and we made a promise to her? I mean, all we're doing is upholding our end of the bargain. We're not doing anything bad. We're just upholding our end of the bargain.

[Nick]

And I'm trying to uphold, not upend, but uphold mine.

[Jeff]

If we go ahead and post this picture, I mean, obviously what's on the line here is just a portion of the picture.

[Melissa]

But.

[Jeff]

But if his picture is posted, then what's his motivation to continue paying her back? And we want ultimately for her to get paid back.

[Bert]

Because this doesn't reveal. I mean, the first picture doesn't reveal anything.

[Melissa]

I think it just.

[Bert]

He doesn't Want to.

[Wendy]

This is a puzzle piece.

[Bert]

So it's a puzzle piece.

[Wendy]

What will happen next time is more if he never makes a payment again, then his whole picture goes up.

[Bert]

And he certainly doesn't want to be walking around Atlanta and everybody know who he is.

[Melissa]

This is all you're going to see. That's the picture that goes out.

[Bert]

Yeah, I mean, it's his. The bottom right part or left part of his chin.

[Jeff]

Yeah. You won't see.

[Bert]

You can't tell anything there. All right, tomorrow is the election, so let's do this democratically. How are you casting your vote, Jeff? Ours is public. It's a public vote.

[Melissa]

If we're doing it, like, tomorrow, I would really prefer to stand in line for three and a half hours first. And do you have any stickers for me?

[Bert]

I can make a sticker for you.

[Melissa]

Okay, then I would.

[Wendy]

You can't wear a sticker tomorrow, though, can you?

[Melissa]

Then I would vote to put it up.

[Bert]

Put it up.

[Melissa]

That would be. My vote would be to post the one picture.

[Bert]

Wendy.

[Krista]

I say don't, don't.

[Bert]

I say put it up, Melissa.

[Wendy]

Well, I mean, if I'm gonna just stay with within, you know, what I would normally do, it'd be to put it up, because you have to, you know, the deadline and, you know, you just put it up.

[Melissa]

If you want the picture up, put your hands up.

[Jeff]

In the spirit of tomorrow, I'd like to vote for change. No, I think that we should not put it up because he did make the payment.

[Nick]

I'm also gonna vote to not put it up.

[Bert]

Yeah, you don't get a vote. It was three to two to put the picture up. So the picture is part of the picture goes up today.

[Melissa]

Actually, Jen has 120 electoral college books.

[Bert]

Wendy's new to the social. She's like Vermont, as opposed to you.

[Melissa]

You only got six.

[Bert]

Yeah, that's three to two. So part of that picture is going up today. And also the. The first phone number is going up as well.

[Melissa]

Online.

[Jeff]

First number.

[Melissa]

It's just the area code.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Krista]

So bad.

[Bert]

Sorry.

[Krista]

Because he did make it. He did make the payment.

[Jeff]

I just don't want him to bail on us and not pay this girl back, because I think she.

[Bert]

Well, then the whole picture goes up. That's his motivation not to. And he's. He said, I mean, forget about the radio thing. He's motivated and passionate about paying the money back. So they should be inconsequential right now. There's no harm in it.

[Melissa]

Well, if he bails on us, the whole picture goes up.

[Bert]

The whole picture goes up. Yeah.

[Wendy]

I think what Jen's saying is, but she didn't get any money.

[Bert]

No, she wouldn't get the money. All right, Nick.

[Nick]

All right. Well, see you on the den.

[Bert]

Okay.

[Melissa]

Don't be late.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Melissa]

Bye.

[Bert]

Bye. Hey, the bird show.

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[Bert]

Amy wants to be on the voice disguiser. She and a bunch of her girlfriends are going to Vegas for the weekend. And it's a bunch of married girlfriends. I don't know if they have kids or not, but I do think that changes things.

[Jeff]

Mm.

[Bert]

I've always felt like it said the scariest people at these parties are going out on a girls night out or a guy's night out. Honestly, it's the parents, it's the married guys like me. I get a lot of time out, so it's really not my situation. But most dads and most moms, man, they're in the house all the time, taking care of the kids or whatever. You just don't have a lot of free time. So when you get 2448, 72 or whatever to let loose. Those are the wild ones.

[Jeff]

And you don't have a tolerance built up anymore?

[Bert]

No.

[Jeff]

Drinking tolerance is real low. Two drinks, right?

[Bert]

Good morning, Amy, you're on the voice disguiser.

[Caller Amy]

Good morning.

[Bert]

Good morning. How are you?

[Caller Amy]

I'm okay.

[Bert]

You sound pretty stressed out.

[Caller Amy]

Well, I am. I'm not. I honestly just don't know what to do about this. I've been friends with these girls for years, since like middle school. And we're all married. Three of us have children. One is working on it. And we decided that we were going to take this girl's into Vegas and kind of joked like, whatever happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. And then the joking kind of led to other things. And I think that they're thinking that we're going to be doing other things than just drinking and staying out late. And I'm worried about what's going to happen and how it's going to change things. And I just don't think I want to be a part of it anymore.

[Wendy]

So you're saying that you're married, friends may hook up?

[Caller Amy]

I think so. That's what it seems like.

[Bert]

What were these other things? I think we'd need a definition of that.

[Caller Amy]

Well, we're definitely going to drink and party. We're really good girls, so we didn't do a whole lot of that. Like we drank a little bit in high school, but that was like as bad as we ever got. And I've only been with my husband and that's the same thing for like two of the other girls have only been with their husbands. And I think a couple of them are pretty serious about finding someone there.

[Melissa]

So the intention of this trip is that the four of you are gonna go and act like single girls?

[Caller Amy]

Well, I guess so, but that's not how it started. It was supposed to just be a

[Melissa]

weekend away, but that's how it is right now.

[Bert]

Right? How it started is inconsequential, I think for what we're talking about now. The trip sounds like this girl's wild weekend, where you already know that there are girls that are motivated when they get to Vegas to meet a guy and hook up for the weekend. Is that what I'm hearing?

[Caller Amy]

Yeah.

[Wendy]

Okay.

[Melissa]

And you agreed to be a part of that?

[Caller Amy]

I agreed originally when I thought that it was just going to be harmless fun. I definitely do not want to be a part of that. I love my husband. I don't want to do anything to damage our relationship, but I don't even want to witness what they're going to do because it's just going to change everything. But by me not going, it's also going to change everything. And I don't know what. I don't really know how to go about it because these are my sisters. I mean, we, you know, we do everything together.

[Bert]

Good morning, Michelle, you're on Q100.

[Caller]

Hey, I was just gonna tell that caller, first of all, Burt show.

[Caller Amy]

I love you guys.

[Caller]

I listen to y' all every morning.

[Wendy]

Thank you.

[Caller]

But I was just gonna tell her, when in doubt, do without. If you have any doubts, don't do it. Find an excuse and back out.

[Jeff]

Do you think she could just confront her friends? She thinks they're gonna screw around.

[Caller]

Yeah. But even if she does, when she gets there, she never knows what's gonna. You never know what's gonna happen.

[Melissa]

What I'm reading between the lines is it' confronting the friends. I think the plan was made that we were going to go to Vegas, the four of us. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, and we're acting like single girls.

[Bert]

Does that sound accurate?

[Caller Amy]

Yeah.

[Melissa]

And you and you were part of that planning. And now it's.

[Wendy]

Some are going to take it further than she will.

[Melissa]

No, I think they all. I'm reading the.

[Bert]

Well, let's ask her.

[Melissa]

Yeah.

[Bert]

So is it. Were you, were you one of the girls sort of saying, yeah, let's go to Vegas, I'm totally going to hook up. And now you're like, oh, I didn't realize he took me serious.

[Caller Amy]

No, the hooking up honestly started in, in joking, like we were talking about how wild we're going to be because it's funny because we're so lame. We're not wild at all. And we're, you know, saying how it's, you know, we're going to be experiencing new things and blah, blah. And then we jokingly started the whole hooking up thing. And yes, I definitely joked about it. And then I think a couple girls were like, oh, I could really do this. This would be an opportunity.

[Krista]

Do you think your friends are actually going to go through with it? Like, would they actually hook up?

[Bert]

Yeah, you know, if these are long term girlfriends of yours and you know them better than anybody else, so do you think that they are capable of that or is this some kind of fantasy going on?

[Caller Amy]

I think that two of them are definitely capable and I think all three of them want to. And now the conversation has changed and they're serious about it.

[Bert]

I wouldn't even go, I gotta be Honest with you, I wouldn't even go, because while things may not happen with you and somebody in Vegas, what you see in Vegas may change your relationship with not only your friends, then it's gonna change the relationship with your friends, husbands also. I wouldn't even go because if it

[Wendy]

comes an issue later on in their marriages, then you knew the whole time

[Bert]

I would just completely stay out of harm's way.

[Krista]

You're gonna be questioned, too, by your husband if he ever finds out that they did anything, because then he's just automatically gonna assume that you did something right.

[Bert]

She goes, good morning, Catherine. You're on Q100. Hi.

[Caller Amy]

Hi there.

[Bert]

Hi.

[Caller]

I wanted to comment about what she should do in Vegas.

[Bert]

Yeah, now's a good time.

[Caller]

So I think that she should definitely confront her friends. I just feel like that's the definition of friendship, is that you have to have hard conversations.

[Jeff]

And what would you say if this were your friend?

[Caller Amy]

I would say, hey, I feel very

[Caller]

uncomfortable about what I hear you girls talking about. I'm curious to know if you guys are serious about this, because let's talk about what's gonna happen and what's not gonna happen. It's weird. I wasn't expecting that.

[Bert]

I don't know, man. Here's the thing about. Here's the thing about Vegas, too, because they may say something like, no, that's just crazy talk.

[Melissa]

They put some. They pump oxygen into the casinos there, but makes people do crazy stuff.

[Bert]

But they've sort of already told you what their intentions are. So then they get to Vegas and they got all this stimuli going on. And you do see things that you're

[Wendy]

not supposed to see.

[Bert]

I just don't see if you're balancing it all out. It seems to me there's more risk in going than not. So why even put yourself in that position? It's one weekend. You'll have other weekends.

[Jeff]

If she doesn't go, her girlfriends are gonna be mad at her.

[Bert]

You know, she's got kids. That's what they're there for. You can put the blame on them. I just.

[Wendy]

But now I disagree. I disagree because I think that these. She called. These are her sisters. This is her. I mean, any woman that has a group of friends, you can't play off something and actually think that it's never gonna come up or that you'll never have to tell the truth. I mean, I think that, yeah, I don't see a problem if these are your sisters to say. I'm not comfortable with that. I don't want to be a part of it. I don't want to witness anything, so I'm just not going. If this is what y' all want to do, I'm not going. And be honest about why you're not going.

[Bert]

Well, then I would tell a little white lie.

[Melissa]

But I think. And you guys know girls better than Burt and I do, but I think the agreement would be. They'd be like, don't worry about it. We're not. We were just joking about that. But then you get there.

[Jeff]

They would.

[Wendy]

They would keep it from her. Like, I think some girls would if they know that she had a huge problem with it, was still doing it. They would keep it more away from her after she said something than they would before it.

[Melissa]

That's a good point.

[Bert]

They may not even want around at that point.

[Wendy]

Maybe not.

[Bert]

Good morning.

[Melissa]

She could go there and end up hooking with six different guys.

[Bert]

Hey, Ashley, you're on Q100. Go ahead.

[Caller]

Hey, guys. I just want to say I love your show.

[Bert]

Thank you.

[Caller]

Well, my opinion on this is that she should not go at all. Because no matter what, if she goes there and doesn't do anything but witnesses her friends doing it, then she's gonna be a guilty party no matter what, because she was there and didn't stop it.

[Bert]

So you have to make this decision pretty quickly. When are you guys taking off?

[Caller Amy]

Next weekend.

[Bert]

Next weekend.

[Nick]

This.

[Caller Amy]

Wait, this weekend.

[Bert]

This weekend. It's happening.

[Caller Amy]

Yeah.

[Bert]

So you got to do something either tonight or tomorrow. Yeah, they're taking off tomorrow.

[Wendy]

Okay.

[Caller Amy]

Either way, I think I'm gonna lose these girlfriends, because it's gotten to the point where it's like a pact.

[Krista]

If they're your sisters, seriously, you should be able to talk about anything. They're not gonna go anywhere, but I would definitely express concern. Or you're just gonna be a guilty party in the whole thing.

[Bert]

See, a woman's world is so different than in a guy's world, because in a guy's world, I would never sit down with my boys and go, look, here's the deal. And be honest in this way. I would just lie. I would just say, look.

[Wendy]

But that's how guys communicate with each other.

[Bert]

I would just say, look, Hayden's not feeling great, and Hollis isn't great, and Stacy's not great, so I got to stick around this weekend.

[Melissa]

Sorry.

[Bert]

Bye. Bye. Whereas it's different in your world, I

[Wendy]

guess you can't say that. And they go, okay, well, why is that? Well, why can't you do this? What did you do? What's really wrong. I don't understand.

[Bert]

Guys won't do that.

[Wendy]

No. Women's relationships are completely different. So I think that you'll have to be honest with them. I don't understand why you would lose them. Because it's not like what you're standing for is something that I don't know. Like the fact that you're uncomfortable with it. I don't understand why that is a bad thing. And I don't understand why they would judge you completely on it. It may be uncomfortable. It may be that y' all see eye to eye anymore as friends, and that would be why you would lose the friendship. But if they're truly your gang of sisters, I just don't understand why you can't be honest with them.

[Bert]

Let's do this. Let's talk to you if we can, tomorrow, and if not tomorrow, then on Monday and find out exactly what you did.

[Caller Amy]

Okay. Thanks, guys.

[Bert]

I think we gave you a whole bunch of different things to chew on, though.

[Caller Amy]

Yeah, definitely. Thank you.

[Bert]

Okay, good luck. Bye bye. The Bird Show

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Terms and conditions apply. I did a little thinking yesterday because Jeff made. Oh, Jeff made a statement to me yesterday. I sort of found a little on the offensive side.

[Melissa]

Oh, just one?

[Bert]

Well, this is the one that stood out yesterday.

[Melissa]

All right.

[Bert]

Called me a dating racial profiler.

[Melissa]

Oh, totally.

[Bert]

No, it's not.

[Melissa]

Yes, it is.

[Krista]

What does that mean? When did it happen?

[Jeff]

No, there's a difference in what Bert was doing.

[Bert]

Thank you. Here's the deal, all right? We all have a professional friend here that we know that will date any guy, but she has made it known that she is going to marry a man of Indian descent.

[Melissa]

Right?

[Bert]

That's what she has clearly said. I'll date anybody. Bring it on. I'm here to have a good time, right? But when it comes to married, I'm only marrying an Indian guy, period. That's the guy I'm gonna get serious with. So I have made a new business friend. The problem here is I'm not sure he's Indian or not.

[Jeff]

Well, that's how the conversation started yesterday, is you were trying to figure out if this man was Indian.

[Bert]

I'm here to send him a text yesterday to explain it, and then I stopped it because it's.

[Melissa]

I.

[Bert]

There's no way to politely ask him what his background is without it being offensive.

[Melissa]

And therein lies the crux of my statement.

[Bert]

I don't see how.

[Melissa]

Because you are setting normally when you set two people up. If I was gonna set up Wendy with someone, right? So I know what Wendy's about. I've worked with Wendy for a while. I know she's 23 years old. Kind of got an idea of what kind of guy she likes. So if I meet a guy, spiky

[Jeff]

hair, pop collar, right?

[Krista]

Booshi.

[Melissa]

Right Booshi.

[Jeff]

Perfect.

[Melissa]

If I meet a mid-20s Booshi, then I'm like, hey, he might be into Wendy. Whatever. You know what I mean? So, like, I might set them up. You don't know this other guy. You spent 30 minutes with him, and all you know is that he may or may not be Indian.

[Bert]

He made such an impression on me that I thought, this guy. This is somebody that I think. And I would tell the person that we're talking about that I would be setting up the date. I don't know this guy all that well, but he seems like a pretty decent guy. But. And he's an Indian dude.

[Melissa]

But your only basis Possibly your only basis on setting the two of them up is the fact that they're both Indian.

[Bert]

It is to me it is rating. It is dating, profiling, racial dating, profiling. If she never made that statement at all. But she's the one that came straight out and said I'm only going to

[Jeff]

marry the only reason a well known thing about her.

[Melissa]

Right. But let's take, let's take the Indian that race, you know, angle out of it, the nationality angle out of it. Right?

[Bert]

You can.

[Melissa]

And yeah, let's just eliminate it. You wouldn't set those two people up.

[Bert]

If Wendy came to me and she said she only dates guys that are five foot seven, white guys that are five foot seven.

[Melissa]

Right.

[Bert]

And I knew a guy that was five foot seven and white, I would set her up with him because she has already told me that's what she wants to marry. So it's not.

[Jeff]

Profiling is so much more narrowed at that point.

[Melissa]

But I don't think you would do it after only spending 30 minutes with him. And if you did, then I still think that's profiling. The only basis you have for setting those two people up is their nationality.

[Bert]

And the, like you said, the hour that I've spent with the guy where I thought he was pretty cool dude.

[Melissa]

And that's racial, that's profiling.

[Bert]

I don't think it is. I mean, yeah, I guess it would be because he's one of the few maybe Indian people I know, but seems like he's a good looking guy, he's got it together, he owns his own company and sitting down with him for an hour, I was impressed with the guy. So why not just gotta find out if he's Indian?

[Melissa]

Well then you obviously don't know him that well and he doesn't own the company.

[Krista]

You should set him up anyway. Set him up anyways because she dates anybody so she can find out, which is a problem.

[Bert]

That which is another problem for her girlfriends.

[Wendy]

This is just a random thing. We're talking about profiling. Anyway, so are you confused if he's Indian based on his looks or his name?

[Bert]

Both. Okay, both. And there's no way anyways, there's no way really finding out.

[Wendy]

Let her find out.

[Jeff]

Yeah, maybe set them up and let them find out. Yeah.

[Bert]

Like do you think if I ran her name or his name by her she would know if it was an Indian name or not?

[Jeff]

Maybe. Is this guy really hot?

[Bert]

I think he's a good looking dude.

[Jeff]

Yeah? Yeah. Okay, then it's worth all of this, right? Right. You know what I'm saying? It's worth all this drama or asking her, setting them up or having her figure it out or whatever else.

[Melissa]

Is he really hot on an everybody scale or really hot on an Indian scale?

[Wendy]

Funny you say that. Funny you say that.

[Jeff]

Because I was single, if he is cool.

[Wendy]

And when I was single and somebody knew one lesb and they knew me, they would thought it'd be really cool to set me up with that one lesbian they know simply because we were lesbians. And regardless of everything else, can you

[Melissa]

imagine if you thought somebody was a lesbian? You're like, I am pretty sure that this girl here is a lesbian. Hey, Melissa, why don't you come over here and meet my friend Amanda, who may or may not like the penis.

[Bert]

Hey, Kimber, you're on Q100, huh?

[Caller]

Well, I. I was gonna say, if she said she would date anybody, go ahead and set him up and let

[Caller Amy]

her figure out if he's Indian or not.

[Bert]

That is perfect. That is perfect.

[Melissa]

But it's a clear. It is a clear. You're making a clear racial statement when you do that.

[Bert]

But I think you.

[Jeff]

But it also keeps her away from

[Bert]

all the other guys, which has been a problem in her group.

[Jeff]

Her girlfriends want to date.

[Melissa]

Right, but that's. That's.

[Jeff]

Yeah, cuz her girlfriends are like, dude, you're not gonna marry him. Back off and like give him to everybody else.

[Bert]

So this woman is notorious for like calling dibs on guys in bars and she's super hot.

[Wendy]

Why can'. You're not gonna marry everybody you date.

[Jeff]

No, but she will. She will call dibs and then like capture the hearts or the attention of the hotties in the room.

[Bert]

The non Indian dudes.

[Jeff]

The non Indian dudes. And her girlfriends are like, back off.

[Melissa]

Like, cast them around a little bit.

[Wendy]

Okay, but she can, like, she can have whoever she wants.

[Bert]

Oh, yeah, right.

[Jeff]

Oh, yeah. But that's why, I mean, her non

[Bert]

Indian friends are like, wait, can you back off a little bit? Because maybe you'll date this guy for a couple of months, but I'm still in. I've got a world of marriage possibilities ahead of me and you're blocking me here. You're v blocking me.

[Wendy]

I don't see any problem with her dating whoever she wants to date.

[Jeff]

Oh, no, I say date whoever she wants to date. Just spread it around for the rest

[Melissa]

of us a little bit.

[Jeff]

Honey, don't bogart all the dudes.

[Melissa]

Just take the Indian guys. Yeah, look, if I see an Indian guy, you can have them Don't Bogart the hookah.

[Caller Amy]

Yeah.

[Bert]

Good morning, Amanda. You're on Q100. Hi.

[Krista]

Hey.

[Caller]

I was. I have a couple comments. One, if they want to know what race is, go ahead and ask them. I am. So. I have grandparents who are from very many backgrounds. I have. I have a Cherokee. Part Cherokee Indian, part Polish, part German. And the other, I guess, is redneck.

[Wendy]

But I don't know which on DNA

[Caller]

test is classified exactly. So, I mean, I'm very proud of my background. And you'd have to be pretty shallow not to be proud of your background. It's who you are. So ask him. I'm sure he wouldn't care. But then again, if you're willing to date anybody, what happens if you fall in love with somebody? Well, that he's not Indian.

[Bert]

That I can't speak to because. Yeah.

[Jeff]

I don't know.

[Melissa]

That's a decision that's important to her, so.

[Bert]

Right.

[Melissa]

That's a different debate.

[Bert]

Cindy says there's a way to look it up. Hey, Cindy.

[Melissa]

Hey.

[Caller]

Not only can you tell if he's Indian by his name. I have a friend who's Indian. She can tell you exactly where he's from in India. It's very simple.

[Bert]

Is it a little bit like me in the accents, where I can tell

[Melissa]

exactly where you're from?

[Wendy]

Not really.

[Bert]

It's just.

[Caller]

I mean, if it's just usually just by last name and even sometimes by first name, she can tell you exactly if he's Indian, if he's Hindi, if he's Muslim, if he's. And what region he's from. It's very, very simple.

[Bert]

So your suggestion would be that if my friend is so into the Indian culture, I could tell her his name and she would know instantly if he was or not.

[Caller Amy]

Absolutely.

[Bert]

Okay, cool. That's a good suggestion right there.

[Jeff]

But you're still racially profiling. That's where the whole conversation.

[Melissa]

I mean, it's cool if you're co with that. Then go for it, Bert. I mean, that's all right.

[Bert]

I'm just.

[Melissa]

You know what?

[Bert]

I am bridging the gap for love, man. I'm a loving bastard.

[Melissa]

Maybe what you should do is maybe you should. You know, maybe you should take him to a deli. Like a true kosher deli.

[Caller Amy]

Oh, no.

[Melissa]

And you go to lunch one time, you know, because you're Jewish, and then at the end of the meal, go, let's have lunch next week, but we'll go to one of your restaurants.

[Bert]

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