Full Show PT 3: Monday, April 6 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show – Full Show PT 3: Monday, April 6 [Vault]

Date: April 6, 2026
Cast: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy & the entire Bert Show Cast
Sections Summarized: 00:00–47:32

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Episode Overview

In this vault episode, The Bert Show crew dives into hilarious personal mishaps, awkward confessions, and intense listener drama. The main themes revolve around sharing embarrassing home improvement injuries, navigating complex friend relationships, and a gripping true confession involving long-term company fraud. With a blend of real talk, laughter, and judgment, the cast and their listeners create a lively, often chaotic morning show atmosphere.

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Segment 1: DIY Disasters & Bee Removal Fiascoes

[01:31–10:32]

Key Discussion Points

• Jeff recounts his recent "bee problem" (01:31) – His partner Jessica warns him about an apparent bee infestation making the house inaccessible.
• Initial panic gives way to DIY bravado as Jeff manages to exterminate what turns out to be thousands of bees, all without getting stung.
  • Jeff: "Do you know how many times I got stung? Zero." (02:35)
• The saga escalates when Jeff attempts to seal up the hive with expanding foam insulation.
  • Ignoring label warnings, Jeff ends up gluing his own fingers together and suffers chemical burns after using acetone to clean up.
  • Jeff: "It says on the website, if you get this on your skin, don't use acetone because it will dissolve the product, causing it to sink into the first layer of your skin." (09:02)
  • Ellie: "Did you save a flake of skin for me?" (10:04)

Notable Quotes/Moments

• Jeff (about Jessica): "I just wanted to make sure she was aware that there was a level of danger... sacrifice me!" (04:11)
• Group: Roasts Jeff over his DIY mishap, sharing similar injury stories from listeners, including falling through ceilings and using unsafe substitutes for ladders.

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Segment 2: Listeners’ Dumbest Injury Stories

[10:12–13:38]

Key Discussion Points

• Callers share their own clumsy or dangerous home improvement anecdotes:
  • Laura recounts her father falling halfway through the attic and accumulating various other injuries.
    • "He's not allowed on the roof of the house at all." (12:30)
  • Adam and Joseph recall electrical shocks and near-misses on ladders.

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Segment 3: Listener Drama—Best Friend’s Mom Dilemma

[15:16–23:30]

Key Discussion Points

• Ellie (Guest) returns with an update about her friend wanting to ask out his best friend’s mom—a saga previously discussed on the show.
  • Ellie: "I decided to let him know how I felt...he absolutely refused to back down from asking his friend’s mom out." (16:56–17:12)
• Ellie's anxiety about her friend’s possible mistake, and the show’s suspicions that jealousy is at play.
  • Jen: "She’s already peed on him...she was mad that somebody else was gonna have him." (16:00)
• The drama escalates: When her friend storms off at dinner, Ellie sends a rogue text from his phone to his friend—"Hey dude, would it be cool if I asked your mom out?" (19:15)
  • Ellie admits it was wrong, but at the time, "it felt right."
• The cast reacts strongly, calling out Ellie for sabotaging the friendship out of lingering feelings.

Notable Quotes

• Jen: "By trying to save your friend's friendship with his best friend, you ruined your friendship with him." (20:50)
• Joseph (caller): "To take such drastic actions as to actually send the other person a text...she is totally cock blocking." (22:17)

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Segment 4: “How Often Do You Wash Your Bra?” Debate

[25:08–30:32]

Key Discussion Points

• Jeff poses a question to the women: How frequently do you wash your bras?
• Varied responses:
  • Most say every few wears—never after every wear.
  • Sports bras get washed immediately—but regular bras may go a week or longer.
• Discuss bras’ price, the importance of rotation to prevent wear, and the embarrassment of old, discolored favorites.
  • Jen: "You get a three-pack of T-shirts for, what, $10? But a bra is at least $40 to $50 for a good one." (27:51)

Memorable Moment

• The group laughs about “emergency bras” at the bottom of the drawer—the ones you hope no one sees you wear on a first date.

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Segment 5: Payroll Fraud Confession—Brandi’s Case

[30:36–47:06]

Key Discussion Points

• Recap: Brandi had called in previously, admitting to keeping paychecks meant for a new hire who never started. Over nearly two years, she managed to misdirect about $60,000 in payments.
  • Jen: "She's collecting a salary that's not hers...making this probably a felony." (31:50)
• Brandi details her attempt to make things right after years of denial—aided by her mother, who drains savings to help repay $35,000 up front.
  • She meets with her company, confesses, and resigns.
  • The company, led by a forgiving owner, accepts her repayment and affidavit, promising not to press charges but expects full restitution.
• Callers call out Brandi’s privilege and lack of awareness; many criticize her for relying on her mother instead of owning up alone.
  • Providencia (caller): "You are a bad person...for your mother to have to go into her savings account, that is disgusting." (41:32)
  • Brandi: "My mom is always there for me, and I am really embarrassed, and I’m not proud of what I did, and I’m humiliated." (44:18)
• Discussion about potential IRS and credit fallout for the unintended victim of the fraud, skepticism from callers, and debate over whether Brandi truly understands accountability.

Notable Quotes

• Jeff: "Only now...reality has hit her over the top of the head." (44:50)
• Jen: "I mean, people make mistakes. I mean, it's a calculated one. It's a really bad one. And it could still send her to prison." (46:52)
• Brandi: "All you’ve got to do...is take steps to make it right, you know...and figure out what got you here to this place." (46:25)

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Memorable Moments and Tone

• The mix of self-deprecating humor, group teasing, and harsh real talk creates an atmosphere both lighthearted and confrontational.
• Injury stories are met with laughter and empathy, while the ethical lines in the listener dramas are robustly debated—often with pointed, sometimes uncomfortable honesty.
• The tone swings from comedic (adults falling through ceilings, sticky foam mishaps) to soap-opera dramatic (rogue texts and fraud confessions).

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Key Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | Notable Moment | |-----------|-------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------| | 01:31 | Bee problem/home repair injuries | Jeff’s DIY story and gluing his fingers | | 10:12 | Listeners’ injury stories | Callers' own accidents—falling through ceiling | | 15:16 | Best friend’s mom drama | Ellie admits sending rogue text as sabotage | | 25:08 | “How often do you wash your bra?” | Group laughs over bra-washing confessions | | 30:36 | Payroll fraud confession | Brandi details her theft, repayment, and fallout |

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Conclusion

This episode delivers classic Bert Show energy: a patchwork of real-life disaster stories, controversial listener confessions, and frank, sometimes judgmental conversation. Whether laughing at mishaps or navigating tough moral dilemmas, the cast and callers bring honesty, empathy, and a little chaos to the morning radio experience.

Transcript

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[Jeff]

Listen, it's the bird show. I told you guys a couple weeks ago about the weird call that Jessica or the text message that Jessica sent me about the B problem.

[Ellie]

Yes.

[Jeff]

She's like, we got a B issue. She goes, don't worry about it right now, but we've got a serious B issue to the point where people can't get near our house. So. Oh, yeah, it was bad. Well, after doing some more research, it wasn't really that bad. And I was able to exterminate the bees successfully and I showed you guys. I'm gonna try to get this video fixed. Very. Thank you. Danger.

[Melissa]

Did you wear one of those masks,

[Jeff]

full on white thing, the nets and the khakis? So I fully took care of the bee hive or Nest or whatever it's called.

[Ellie]

That video though?

[Jeff]

Yeah, if I can get that edited properly, I'll put it online. It was pretty insane, but I killed them all. Right, so then fast forward one week. I just wanted to make sure that it was completely dead. And I went back and I looked at the space. There was a little hole in the ceiling where they were kind of getting between the Ceiling. The porch ceiling. And the floor.

[Ellie]

I mean, gotta talk about manta, the swarm.

[Jeff]

Oh, yeah.

[Ellie]

We're bleeding out of the hole. Yeah.

[Jeff]

Do you know how many times I got stung? Zero.

[Jen]

How many bees do you estimate? Thousands.

[Jeff]

Not kidding.

[Jen]

Thousands.

[Jeff]

Yes.

[Ellie]

We saw the video yesterday.

[Jeff]

It's ridiculous.

[Ellie]

Pouring, pouring.

[Jeff]

I thought for a minute I was gonna be that person on the news where they cut away a chunk of the wall and there's, like, the big, giant hive underneath there.

[Ellie]

Because that just happened to a woman where there were so many bees in her wall that honey was running down her windows.

[Jeff]

So I appreciate the applause for successfully exterminating the hive of bees.

[Jen]

Awesome.

[Jeff]

Without one sting.

[Melissa]

Nicely done.

[Jeff]

So I went to the hardware store, and I said, look, I got this situation, and here's. There's a hole and there's a beehive, and blah, blah, blah. I want it next week. I want to patch it up. What should I do? And I got a couple suggestions. One of them was this stuff was to fill the space with this expanding foam. It's basically like an insulation foam. You would put it around a pipe. You would use it to seal cracks in your house.

[Brandi]

And.

[Jeff]

And it comes through. It looks like hair. Like a real thick, heavy hair mousse. But then as it dries, it expands into a very hard Styrofoamy sealant.

[Jen]

I've seen that stuff before.

[Jeff]

Yes. And it's yellow. Like, I'm sure you've seen it if you have a crawl space in your house or whatever. And I was like, that's the best idea, because I'll just shove the nozzle up in there and fill it all up. So I get Jessica to back me up. I'm like, look, you just stand at the bottom of the ladder. Wait, because I'm still.

[Ellie]

That's funny. Just to start with. Honey, can you back me up?

[Jeff]

You gotta support me in this. And I'll be honest. I'm gonna little real talk right now.

[Ellie]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

I knew there were no bees left in there, but I wanted to make sure she was aware that there was a level of danger to what I was doing. So I asked her, you were trying

[Ellie]

to turn her on a little bit.

[Jeff]

I asked her to stand at the bottom of the ladder with the can of bug spray. I'm like, look, if any bees come out, sacrifice. God, I'm such a tool. I can't believe I actually said this. I said, sacrifice me. I'll go wash it off. Just start spraying.

[Joseph]

Oh, my God. I'll take the hit.

[Jeff]

You guys shoot me if you gotta shoot me, but don't let any bees escape.

[Melissa]

It's like a sickle.

[Ellie]

Leave me behind, honey. Just leave me behind.

[Jen]

Reality TV show. Cause this is great. Okay, I'm sorry.

[Jeff]

So I'm up on the ladder. Your goal, please, for my sake, is to find an injury that's more stupid than the one I'm about to tell you about.

[Ellie]

You tell this injury story. And can we tell a retro injury story of yours?

[Jeff]

Literally, too. I shoved the. If you're talking about when I fell through the ceiling, it didn't get hurt. So I shoved the.

[Ellie]

He fell through a ceiling.

[Jen]

Yeah. True story.

[Ellie]

He fell through his own ceiling. Anyway, I'm sorry. Go ahead.

[Jen]

Let's finish this one.

[Jeff]

I shoved the nozzle, one at a time, up in the. Up in the. Where the nest was, and I start filling it up. And Jessica's down at the bottom, and she says, you know, how do you know? I mean, that's a whole giant porch ceiling. Like, you can't fill that whole thing. My gosh. Is an expanding foam. So I remove. So I remove the nozzle, and I. You know, like how you would do with hair mousse. I squirt some in my hand, and I hold it out, and it starts to, you know, expand in my hand. I'm like, see? See how that works?

[Ellie]

Like, the blob?

[Jeff]

And she's like, oh, yeah.

[Brandi]

Okay.

[Jeff]

So I fill that in. Then there's another space over there. So I fill that in. Meanwhile, I don't want to take this goop of stuff to, you know, and throw it down on the ground because it's a cement patio, and I don't know how it's.

[Ellie]

That's in your hand.

[Jeff]

So now I'm on a ladder. In my right hand, I've got an aerosol can of expanding foam. In my left hand, I'm holding a ball of this expanding foam.

[Jen]

Your sample?

[Jeff]

Yep. Balanced on the. Yes, balanced on the ladder. And then I fill it all up, and then it starts to come out the hole, and everything's good, right? So things are good. So I walk over to, like, a plastic bag that we had on the porch, and I scrape off the ball of. You know, it's like a greasy, gooey, Like. I don't know. It's just gooey, greasy, gross. And. And I scrape it off into a plastic bag. Jessica goes upstairs. I go into the sink in the downstairs bathroom. I get the soap out. I start to wash my hands. My fingers are glued together.

[Jen]

Oh, no.

[Melissa]

Oh, my. Wow.

[Jeff]

And I'm like, huh, this stuff's really sticky. So then I use my right hand to actually attempt to force the fingers of my left hand apart, and they won't open.

[Jen]

You're kidding.

[Jeff]

So then I decide, well, I need to go get the can of foam to find out. What do I gotta do? Paint thinner, gasoline. How am I gonna do this? What takes this stuff off on the can? It says, do not use this without gloves. Do not. Do not.

[Jen]

Cause you're a man, you don't need

[Ellie]

gloves to do this.

[Jeff]

Now allow this to come in contact with bare sk.

[Brandi]

Oh, no.

[Jen]

What does the warning say after that?

[Jeff]

If you do come in contact with bare skin, visit the hospital as soon as possible, or you will have to wait for the stuff to completely dry and then break off one by one, which according to them, takes up to 72 hours. But then down below that, it says, if you spill it on any covered surfaces, use acetone. Right. To get it off. So I said to Jess, at this point, I have now called Jessica and I have confessed that I've actually glued my hand together.

[Jen]

All your manliness points just got wiped away.

[Ellie]

In your octave level goes a little honey.

[Jeff]

So I.

[Ellie]

Can you come here for a second?

[Jeff]

So I went and got a. So I asked Jessica, I'm like, can you go in the closet and see if we have any acetone? Thinking it's like a painting thinner thing. She goes, that's what you use to move nail polish remover. She goes, that's no problem. So she goes and gets nail polish remover that she has and pours it in a bowl for me. And I stick my entire hand in the bowl. And I don't know if you've ever gotten acetone into an open cut, but it is horrible. It's the equivalent of holding your eyeball open and then holding a lighter to your eye. So I suffered through that. I was literally sweating.

[Ellie]

So you had a cut on your hand?

[Jeff]

Yes. So I was literally sweating, but I had to get this stuff off.

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[Jeff]

It was like getting all goopy, but it wasn't working. So Jessica goes. And that was like an acetone blend. She goes to get 100% acetone. So she has now left for CVS with my good hand. I Google this stuff to find out what it is. I still haven't told Jessica this, but it says on the website, if you get this on your skin, don't use acetone because it will dissolve the product, causing it to sink into the first layer of your skin.

[Jen]

Oh, no.

[Jeff]

And the only way to remove it is for the first layer of your skin to flake and fall off, which will happen over the next 24 hours.

[Jen]

Oh.

[Jeff]

So if you look at my hand.

[Ellie]

Oh, yes.

[Jeff]

I have got no layer of skin on the four fingers of my left hand because I was trying to show Jessica what a ball of expanding foam looked like.

[Melissa]

Are they still glued together?

[Jeff]

No, they're apart. Look, Nanu nanu or whatever.

[Ellie]

That's how long and prosper.

[Jeff]

I am almost regretting what I did this today because then as you continue to read on the Internet, you're supposed to get a pumice stone. You know what those are? Apparently it's a big girl thing, but use them on your feet and use it to scrape the dead skin off your hand, which I did this morning in the shower. You guys all turned on.

[Ellie]

Did you save a flake of skin for me?

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[Jen]

It looks really raw.

[Jeff]

I'll sprinkle it in your coffee. Hey, Crystal.

[Laura]

So I'm sitting on the couch watching

[Brandi]

tv, you know, just chilling. And my dad, who was a big guy, he's like six four.

[Laura]

You know, he's heavy. He's a big guy. He's upstairs in the attic moving stuff

[Joseph]

or I don't even know what he's doing. He's just up there messing around.

[Brandi]

And all of a sudden, this large

[Joseph]

body and pair of legs is, like, dangling right over top of my head with the sheetrock and, you know, the insulation, like, all falling down on top of me.

[Laura]

He actually caught himself with his arms,

[Joseph]

but his legs are, like, all lower bodies hanging out of our, like, giant feeling.

[Ellie]

So, Jeff, do you have any related story to her dad?

[Jeff]

They.

[Ellie]

At least he caught himself with his arms.

[Jeff]

Yeah, I did the same thing right when I moved into my house. I misstepped. I went right through two beams in the ceiling, and I fell into our guest bed.

[Ellie]

Oh, it could have been so much more dangerous than that, though.

[Jen]

The entire floor.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Melissa]

I'm glad there was a bed.

[Ellie]

Hey, Scott landed where he did.

[Jeff]

Scott, welcome to the show.

[Ellie]

Oh, Scott.

[Jeff]

Scott also fell through the ceiling.

[Ellie]

Hey, we've had enough of those stories. I don't need to out myself right now.

[Jeff]

Hey, Laura, welcome to the show.

[Ellie (Guest)]

Hi.

[Jeff]

What's going on?

[Laura]

Oh, nothing. I just. My dad really, really taught. He just takes the cake. He doesn't have one story. He has multiple.

[Jeff]

Okay, what's the best one?

[Laura]

Well, one of them, he knocked a hole in his head the size of a quarter while chopping wood.

[Brandi]

Oh.

[Laura]

Underneath the parachute and got the ax Clothes caught in the parachute to yank on it until it came down and hit him in the head.

[Melissa]

Oh, that's not.

[Laura]

You know those cement things that catches like the water like at the bottom of a gutter.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Joseph]

Right.

[Jeff]

And spits it out in a different direction.

[Laura]

Yeah. He dropped one on his foot and was on crutches for a while.

[Ellie]

Oh.

[Laura]

He used a 10 speed as a step ladder to get his fishing rod in the basement before we were on our way. Panama City. So he's hemorrhaging all over. All over the house. There's bloody footprints everywhere. He doesn't go to the hospital to get stitches. No. His solution was to go ahead and go to Panama city. He proceeds to walk into the ocean, stick his hand in the salt water because the salt water will heal it nice. That's the hole in his head. Had something to do with that one. That decision making skill. So yeah, that's just the ones that I remember off the top of my head. He's not allowed on the roof of

[Brandi]

the house at all.

[Jeff]

Oh, Laura, thank you.

[Ellie]

I love the danger of getting on something with wheels in order to be your support to grab something that has a hook on it.

[Jeff]

And you know what, here's the thing. Laura's gone but I bet if we asked her, I bet the ladder was only six feet away from the 10 speed but there's a box in front of it. I'm not gonna move that box. I can use the ten speed. Hey, Adam.

[Ellie (Guest)]

Hey.

[Jeff]

What's going on?

[Joseph]

How's it going?

[Ellie]

Good.

[Jeff]

I'm starting to feel better.

[Joseph]

Okay. I'm gonna try to help you out a little bit.

[Jeff]

Thank you.

[Joseph]

Alright. So I'm standing. I do the side job for Aaron's Reynolds and I'm tying in a ballast for a light. I'm standing up there. I know the thing's hot. I'm standing on the ladder propped up against the wall and I go to strip a wire, grab the hot wire. My wire strippers in my right hand. Reach up there with my left hand and touch the metal on the wire strippers. Shocked crap out of myself. About fell off the ladder and I yelled, stopped. Everybody in the middle of the Aaron Reynolds. They all stood up and looked at me.

[Jeff]

And then you gotta. If you're a guy you gotta play it off like it's cool.

[Joseph]

It's like I'm good. It's all good.

[Jeff]

Totally silent, totally solid.

[Ellie]

Really didn't hurt.

[Jeff]

Listen, it's the birch show.

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[Jeff]

If you remember Ellie, Ellie called us up for the why do we want to talk to you on Monday segment. And here's a quick recap of Ellie's appearance on the bir.

[Ellie (Guest)]

This friend of mine saw him the other night and he was telling me about this woman that he met and he's crazy about her. And one of his friends from school, it's. His mom is single and available, but

[Brandi]

that doesn't make it right.

[Ellie (Guest)]

He hasn't told his friend that he's crazy about his mom. He's totally flirted with the mom. The mom flirted back a little, and he's thinking of asking her out. And it's like a train wreck about to happen. I don't know what to do.

[Jeff]

So we did ask her. I think Jen had one good question, poignant question for her.

[Jen]

What? I had. What?

[Ellie]

No, I'm just kidding.

[Jen]

Yeah. Well, because she had dated the guy, right? So a long time ago, she and the guy had dated then. He was the one that was gonna ask out his best friend's mom. So I think that she still had feelings for the guy. And I think she was even more freaked out that it was weird because she still wanted him and didn't want him to be with the mom. So, yeah, she's, like, already peed on him, and so she was mad that somebody. That somebody else was gonna have him. You know what I'm saying?

[Jeff]

She had already marked her territory.

[Ellie]

Territory.

[Jen]

Right. Exactly.

[Jeff]

Hey, Ellie. Welcome back to the bird show, Frankie.

[Ellie]

Well, we don't know that, Jen. We don't know what they did. We don't know what they like.

[Jeff]

It depends on how. It depends on how close they were.

[Ellie]

Yes, they.

[Jeff]

Ellie, welcome to the bird show.

[Ellie (Guest)]

Thank you.

[Jeff]

How are you?

[Ellie (Guest)]

I'm good. Thanks for having me back.

[Jeff]

No problem. Thank you for agreeing to join us. So bring us up to speed. How did the weekend pan out for you?

[Ellie (Guest)]

Well, you know, I listened to what you guys had to say. I didn't necessarily agree with everything, and I ended up going to dinner with my friend on Friday night, and I just decided to let him know how I felt. I thought that was the fairest thing to do.

[Ellie]

Okay.

[Ellie (Guest)]

And he absolutely refused to, like, take a moment and back down from asking his friend's mom out immediately.

[Ellie]

Right.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Ellie (Guest)]

Understand why I thought that was a bad idea. He couldn't understand why I thought, like, maybe he should tell his friend first. Like, I just could not make how this, you know, could ruined his friendship.

[Brandi]

He just didn't think it was going to be a problem.

[Ellie (Guest)]

He didn't want to have anything to do with what I was saying.

[Jeff]

Did you feel any. I guess. Did it strike a nerve at all when Jen pointed out that maybe you were a little bit jealous? Like, did that maybe. Was that in the back of your mind at all?

[Brandi]

No. I thought about it after she said

[Ellie (Guest)]

it, and honestly, of course, I still have feelings. I care about him, which is why I think. I don't think he should do something stupid. But I don't. I don't know that I'm carrying a torch for him still.

[Ellie]

Has he dated anybody? I mean, has he dated anybody seriously, between you and now?

[Ellie (Guest)]

Not seriously, but he's dated other girls, and I've known about it and, you know, it didn't bother me. I've kind of seen other people, too. It's just, you know, you care about someone and you don't want to see them do something stupid. And this friend is a good friend of his, and, you know, you know, guys don't think. They don't think things through.

[Jen]

Yeah, I can see what you're. I can see what you're saying. I mean, if you really don't carry a torch for him anymore and you're just afraid he's going to Screw up his friendship. I get that, but he said he wasn't even going to be willing to talk to his best friend before asking out the mom.

[Ellie (Guest)]

No, he actually kind of got really mad at me that I would even continue to talk about it, and he stormed off to the bathroom. And then I did something.

[Ellie]

What did you do?

[Jeff]

What did you do?

[Ellie (Guest)]

Well, he left his phone.

[Jen]

Oh, no, no.

[Ellie (Guest)]

Yeah.

[Melissa]

No, please, please.

[Ellie]

No, no. Everybody stop talking. What did you do?

[Ellie (Guest)]

It felt right at the moment.

[Ellie]

What did you do?

[Ellie (Guest)]

His cell phone. And I sent his friend a text and just a really quick, hey, dude, would it be cool if I asked your mom out?

[Melissa]

Oh, no, you didn't.

[Jeff]

No, you didn't.

[Ellie]

Oh, my God.

[Jen]

Are you being serious?

[Ellie (Guest)]

I was trying to let him know you are jealous.

[Melissa]

Girly.

[Ellie (Guest)]

Greasy as you think it is, it

[Brandi]

is a big deal.

[Ellie (Guest)]

I wanted his friend to call him back and be pissed at him, and I wanted him to understand, but that's on him.

[Melissa]

That's not on you.

[Jeff]

That's on him before we move on. You understand that was wrong, right?

[Ellie]

No, she doesn't.

[Brandi]

Well,

[Ellie (Guest)]

I voted was wrong. I don't think I did the right thing.

[Ellie]

So he comes back from the bathroom.

[Ellie (Guest)]

He has no idea.

[Ellie]

No idea. You just texted his friend?

[Ellie (Guest)]

I dropped the subject. We finished our dinner. That was Friday night. I have not heard from him all weekend.

[Ellie]

Oh, I wonder why.

[Jeff]

So you don't have an update? You don't know if his friend. The friend call back?

[Ellie (Guest)]

I have not heard from him. I left him one message on Sunday. I just thought I'd put out a little olive branch, and I haven't heard.

[Melissa]

And I think he knows what you did.

[Jeff]

Do you think his friend called him back?

[Ellie]

Of course.

[Melissa]

Or he saw the text. I mean, he looked in his sent box and there it was.

[Jen]

And he knows he didn't send it. He knows she sent it.

[Jeff]

Well, I'm sad that we don't have closure on.

[Ellie]

No, I think we get closure asking.

[Jeff]

But I am happy at the end in the undercover texting. That is brilliant.

[Jen]

By trying to save your friend's friendship with his best friend, you ruined your friendship with him.

[Ellie]

She probably ruined everything.

[Jen]

It's over.

[Melissa]

Like, he doesn't want to be your friend anymore.

[Jen]

I feel like that's what you're wanted in the first place, is you wanted to be all up in everybody's business.

[Ellie]

Well, she. Well, it goes back to what Jen said is the fact that friends, if Jeff and I, we're big buddies, we're friends, boy, girl, and then he's going to do something that I think is crazy. I'm like, dude, are you serious? That is so stupid. But he says you. I really want to do it. Okay, fine, whatever. I'll be there for you. But I think you're making a mistake. That's the extent of the conversation. And then we follow through together.

[Jen]

Right?

[Ellie]

You have not approached this that way at all. So I totally agree with Jen that you have been hanging around because you. You're still got strong feelings for him.

[Jeff]

Hey, Joseph. Welcome to the bird show. How are you?

[Joseph]

Joseph, what's going on?

[Jeff]

Hey, Ellie can hear you. You got any thoughts for her?

[Joseph]

Yeah, I mean that's. How old are y'?

[Brandi]

All?

[Jen]

Sorry, just out of college.

[Jeff]

Ellie, how old are you guys?

[Ellie (Guest)]

I'm like 21.

[Joseph]

Yeah, I mean that's like. That's like middle school, high school stuff, isn't it? I mean, you just need to let your friend do whatever he's doing.

[Jeff]

I love the. Isn't that very something? If they had text messaging when Heather's was big movie.

[Jen]

Oh yeah.

[Jeff]

Something would totally happen in Heather's. Hey tc, thank you as always for being part of the bird show.

[Joseph]

Hey tc, look, I mean she's trying to beat around the bush. First of all, she is dead wrong. Second of all, she knows she still has feelings for the dude. I mean to take such drastic actions as to actually send the other person to text. She is totally cock blocking.

[Jen]

Yep, I agree.

[Jeff]

Love it.

[Jen]

I agree.

[Jeff]

Thank you so much, tc.

[Jen]

I think you're sick. And to you need knows where it

[Jeff]

doesn't need to be TC cutting right to the chase. And then he's gone.

[Jen]

He's in and out. I like it.

[Jeff]

Hey Ellie, good luck with this. If you happen to get anything new or hear anything new, will you please email Tracy and let her know?

[Ellie (Guest)]

I will.

[Jeff]

All right. Good luck with everything and thank you on your friendship. Yeah, and thank you so much for being a great radio guest.

[Brandi]

Bye.

[Jeff]

Take care. Bye. Bye. It's 9:30. This is the bircho. You don't like What?

[Jen]

I don't like her. That's a jerk move.

[Ellie]

She loves him and she's trying. She was trying to sabotage all that and it worked.

[Jeff]

And think about it. They're at dinner. She's probably got a couple glasses of wine in her system. She thinks it's a brilliant idea.

[Jen]

Who does that?

[Melissa]

And then she just ruined her friendship with Dude.

[Jeff]

She should have changed his Facebook status while she was in there. If she had his phone gone. Made it complicated or something.

[Ellie]

So I know Ellie's like, oh, you're right, Jeff.

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[Jeff]

So I have a question for the ladies in the room, and there's a lot of them.

[Ellie]

Something surrounded?

[Jeff]

Yes. Something I just. Just now learned.

[Ellie]

Okay. Just now, this minute?

[Joseph]

Nope.

[Jeff]

In the past couple days. Okay, so you guys all have bras, right?

[Ellie]

Yeah, but most of them don't fit.

[Jeff]

How often you wash those things?

[Jen]

Well, how often are you supposed to. Or how often do you actually.

[Ellie]

Not as often as underwear.

[Jeff]

If you're asking that question, then the answer is gonna gross me out, isn't it?

[Jen]

I don't think it's gonna gross you out. I don't know.

[Ellie]

Well, I mean, bras are. Yeah, I mean, like I just said, I mean, I think, like, with underwear, you tend to throw that after one wear. But bras, it's not after one wear. But it's not.

[Jeff]

So it's every other wear?

[Jen]

No, for me, it's three or four.

[Ellie]

Yeah.

[Brandi]

Mm.

[Ellie]

After about a week.

[Melissa]

Like a sports bra that goes. Yes, right away.

[Ellie]

Sports bras immediately stink. But a bra, maybe a week, you'd

[Jeff]

wear it for a week.

[Jen]

Well, you're supposed to trade them off like you're not supposed to wear the same one back to back because it's stretches them out because there's more than

[Jeff]

the bra or the boobs.

[Jen]

The bra?

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Ellie]

Wear more than one.

[Jen]

Yeah. Seriously, Rotate them. Yeah. So you do like bra A, then bra B, then A, then B, then A, then we throw in C. And then you get down to where you're like, okay, I really got to do laundry now because I don't like any of the ones left.

[Jeff]

So you only own two or three bras?

[Jen]

No, not necessarily. I mean, I have favorites though. Yeah, you definitely have favorites.

[Ellie]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Now why is it just you seem fascinated.

[Ellie]

But I will say though that the women that you know, don't wash them as often as others, they're, you know, it starts to discolor a little bit so they like, oh, well, I'll throw that in there.

[Jeff]

What do you mean? Like from sweat color?

[Ellie]

Well, like, like I've seen like I, Yeah, I've seen somebody's that was not, not, not anybody I know now and not anybody I was with. But like, you know, maybe, you know, a sister or something at one point was like, yeah, you know, you needed to talk like white bras years ago.

[Jen]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

So like it goes from white to

[Ellie]

a gray when all bras were white. Yeah, just that kind of underwire area tends to.

[Jeff]

So why is it, and I'm just asking, exploratory if you will, why is it that every other article of clothing that goes directly on your skin that would be considered like an intimate wear, like even if for a guy it would be a T shirt and of course underwear. And same for women, I guess would be underwear and a bra. Why is that the exception?

[Jen]

I don't know. I don't think because you have as many of them.

[Jeff]

And why don't you have as many?

[Melissa]

Because they're expensive.

[Jen]

Really expensive.

[Ellie]

Why are you surprised? And you just brought up shirts, like guy shirts, like a T shirt. You don't wash your shirt every day.

[Jen]

You get three pack of T shirts for what, 10 bucks? Yeah, but a bra is at least 40 to 50 bucks for a good one.

[Jeff]

$50 for a bra?

[Jen]

Yes, for a good one. And that's a cheap bra. The one I'm wearing right now is like over $100.

[Jeff]

No, it's not.

[Ellie]

Yes.

[Jeff]

Is it made out of gold?

[Jen]

No.

[Ellie]

You'd think you would think so. But guys don't watch. You don't watch those T shirts every time you wear them.

[Brandi]

I do.

[Ellie]

You do?

[Joseph]

Uh huh.

[Jeff]

Like if I wear a T shirt, like I Mean, I rarely wear a dress shirt, you know, but like, if I have to wear a T shirt under a dress shirt, like in the summer or if for whatever reason I would have a T shirt on, it only gets worn once.

[Ellie]

But in the wintertime. Do you do it too? Because I get it in the summertime.

[Jeff]

Yeah, every time. Like anything that's considered underwear.

[Ellie]

I don't think that I probably wash my bras more in the summertime more frequently than in the wintertime.

[Jeff]

Well, it's. Cause you're sweating.

[Ellie]

Right?

[Jeff]

I was just fascinated. I know it's a weird conversation or

[Ellie]

whatever, but what made you think about women's bras?

[Jeff]

I overheard a conversation and she was like, I totally gotta wash this. You know, had commented to it, I'm totally embarrassed because they oddly were talking about being in a dressing room together. And she's like, I'm totally embarrassed that you saw it. That I seriously probably haven't washed it in a month.

[Ellie]

Because there's some worn out. There's some bras that they'll let you know. There's some women have their worn out bras that they still will put on.

[Jen]

Yeah, you gotta hang on to those because it's like when you haven't had time to do laundry and you get at the bottom of the pile, those. The ones that come back to bat and then you. And then you feel bad because you

[Ellie]

forgot that you had a doctor's appointment the day that you wear that one.

[Jeff]

Is that the one that you wear when you go out on a first date and you don't want to make

[Ellie]

sure that you don't do it to

[Jeff]

make sure you don't hook up with the guy?

[Jen]

Yeah, those. Yeah, those are the ones that come out. Those in the granny panties.

[Ellie]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Fascinating. For whatever reason, I just thought the bra came off, went in the washing machine every time.

[Jen]

No. Cause you'll wear them out that way too. Because with the straps and the, you know, each side has the adjustable straps and then you got the clips and stuff. Like, unless you put them in a little lingerie bag or whatever and take good care of them, when you wash them, they'll wear out really fast, by the way. All those hence back to it being

[Jeff]

expensive straps and clasps and all that stuff. Women will never. Well, maybe Melissa will. No, you won't. Because you are used to bras, but like, you will never understand the pressure a man feels when it gets to be bra time.

[Ellie]

Really. But you. Years ago that we had some odd competition in studio between you and Bert and you Got that bra off in a second.

[Jeff]

Booyah. Now I believe it was hobbies bra. Now I'm all grossed out. I want to go burn my hand because probably hasn't been washed in. Okay, well, thank you for the clarification.

[Ellie]

Did you feel a little. Little debris on your fingers when you. No, I'm just kidding. Some flakes.

[Jeff]

It was damp. It was odd.

[Joseph]

It was gross.

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[Jeff]

This is a quick little recap of Brandy joining the Birch show. Last week on Q100.

[Brandi]

I worked for a company in human resources. And a couple years ago, this guy interviewed and he was about to be hired. And he filled out all the paperwork. He was set to come on board. He decided at the last minute he wasn't going to take the job. But all the paperwork was submitted. I processed the paperwork already and like 14 days later, his first paycheck came into human resources department and landed on my death. I know this is wrong, but I really needed the money. For the past two years, I've actually been having his payroll check direct deposited in my account because of the economy. The VP is meeting with all the heads and I have been called into a meeting with him tomorrow. They're gonna eliminate certain positions and I'm just terrified.

[Jeff]

So let me make sure I have this correct. It's still a little foggy. She hires the guy, he turns down the job, but his paperwork's already done and his paychecks are rolling in. She keeps them for herself and manages to get them in a bank account.

[Jen]

She direct deposits them into her account rather than into his.

[Jeff]

So she's got that all set up and that's happening for almost two years.

[Jen]

Two years she's collecting a salary that's

[Jeff]

not hers and now they're doing some sort of audit and she knows she's gonna get busted.

[Jen]

No. Well, not necessarily an audit. An audit would come if they were investigating him. The guy whose Social Security number is actually getting the checks right, which he'll discover once the IRS figures out that it doesn't line up with what he's reporting. Cuz he doesn't know this salary for two years is reporting. What's happening at her company is they're downsizing. So the heads of the company are coming in and they're saying which employees are most important and which aren't. Which salaries can we get rid of? Which ones do we need to keep? And she feels like that's when it's all going to come to a head because she's been asked to join that meeting. Or was asked to join that meeting. I think it already happened.

[Jeff]

So, Brandy, welcome to the Burch show again. How are you?

[Brandi]

Hi, guys.

[Ellie (Guest)]

Good.

[Brandi]

How are you?

[Jeff]

We are doing a lot better to

[Jen]

find out what's going on with you.

[Ellie]

I'm trying to interpret that the way you sound right now.

[Jeff]

Well, I think what was shocking, at least for me, and I think even Brandi, too, is when we had her on with us last week, we just had it on as an interesting call. And then one of you guys pointed out that it's 650 bucks a week, which is what Brandi said the income was, times almost two years. You're looking at tens of thousands of dollars making this probably a felony.

[Ellie]

Well, I mean, it's. Yeah, it's fraud. It's company fraud, and she. Identity theft, and, I mean, all kinds of things that are piled up against her.

[Jeff]

It could result in jail. So I think it kind of dawned on Brandi at the same time dawned on me as you guys are saying it, like, oh, this is serious.

[Ellie]

I know you say that, but I think it's dumb that it only dawned on you two years after. Not you, Jeff. I'm talking about Brandi. But you're dumb, Jeff. No, I'm talking about Brandi. I mean, you were bold enough to do this, and so for you to act shocked two years after the fact. My point was that she's just upset because she's going to get caught. She had no problem taking the money.

[Jeff]

So take us in. From the time you got off the phone with us up until today, what happened?

[Brandi]

Well, after I got on the phone with you guys, I was really, like, scared and freaked out. And you're right. I should have been before, you know, I guess I was just, like, in denial for the two years, but I didn't know what to do. And I'm like. I was terrified. I guess I didn't think of it like a felony until then. But I went home and told my mom because I really didn't know what to do. And my mom, she's always been there for me, and she just went into total mother mode. And she's like, we're gonna take care of this. And she helped me to come up with what I was gonna do. So she told me I have to tell the company I work for. And she. We figured out it was over $60,000 that I took in, and she cleared out her entire savings. And I had a little bit saved, too, but not much. And we were both able to come up with around $35,000. And my mother told me I had to go tell my boss and stuff, so I went first. I called in sick for a couple of days. So I missed that meeting with the about the employees and stuff. And I went down there and my mom and I got a cashier's check for like, it was around 35,000 that we had. My mom went with me and I met with like, my supervisor and told them what happened. And I was obviously like crying, really upset and.

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[Jeff]

You obviously gave them the $35,000. Yeah, immediately.

[Brandi]

That's why I brought the cashier's check. I gave them 35,000. I told them what I had done, and I.

[Jeff]

Now, just a technical question. When you met with your supervisors and confessed what you did and gave them this check, was your mom in there with you?

[Brandi]

Yeah, my mom came with me because I just was a mess and I was crying and I really just couldn't pull together.

[Ellie]

How old are you, by the way? How old are you?

[Brandi]

25.

[Ellie]

All right, go on. Well, yeah, go ahead. I'll save my comments to later. Go ahead.

[Jen]

Wow.

[Brandi]

I mean, I know it doesn't look like I'm a good person, but I am a good person, and I don't know.

[Ellie]

So what? I know. Okay, so the company. So, so your mom is in there with. Your mom's upset in there, and then you give them the money and what happens?

[Jen]

Are you just hysterical?

[Ellie (Guest)]

My super.

[Jeff]

I'm going to guess. Yes,

[Brandi]

go ahead. Like, he was like, I sorry. Thank you for bringing this away. I can make no further comments on this matter, and we will be in contact with you in the next day or so. We need to contact. You need to contact the owner of the company and the attorneys and stuff. And so I was even more freaked out then because he didn't tell me what was going to happen. And I told him I. They saw it was 35,000 and I said it was. I know they know it was more. So I promised to get them back the money and stuff.

[Ellie (Guest)]

So.

[Jeff]

So they took the 35,000?

[Brandi]

Yeah. And they said he said he'd be in contact with me the next day or his attorney. So.

[Jen]

Well, I'm sure they can't make any sort of comments. They're. I mean, they're having to tow the

[Jeff]

company and they're the attorneys and they're liable, too, right? Because.

[Laura]

Have you.

[Ellie]

Have you. Has the attorneys called you yet?

[Brandi]

Yeah, they called me back the next day, actually. The owner of the company called me directly. And I told God, he's like, he's a.

[Ellie]

Now you think? Javon, go ahead.

[Brandi]

He's a Christian and he's a very forgiving man. And he said he thought I was doing the right thing by telling them. And I brought back the $35,000 that I had. And he knows that it was from my mom's savings and from a little savings I had. And they said that they were going. They had me sign like, a statement or affidavit or something stating what happened that had been drawn up by their attorneys and that I would. He made that. I'm promising to repay them the money that I took from them, and they weren't going to press charges. And I was just so happy. I was so scared I was going to go to, too. So it's still like a person. I know. I know it doesn't look like it, but it just seemed like, I don't know. I didn't hurt anybody. I know I did steal, like, thousands of dollars, but I know I was wrong. And he. I just. I'm so lucky that he's giving me a chance, and I don't know how I'm Going to pay them back. Cuz right now obviously I resigned when I initially had walked in. Obviously when I gave him back the money, I.

[Jeff]

Did you get a reference letter?

[Brandi]

Anyway, but I resigned. I just don't know how I'm gonna get the money back. My mom helped me too.

[Ellie]

Well, I'm sure the company is gonna help clear the guy's name too, that you know in his Social Security number. But I just, I am infuriated because, I mean, of course she went into mommy mode, which again is such a generic term. But she saved your ass, you know, and she took the money that her account that she has saved up for and earned because know what? You're 25. So she's done her time and here she has to come and bail you out again. So what is your plan to pay her back as well as the company? Cuz you're gonna have to give her her money back because she earned that money.

[Brandi]

I'm grateful to my mother for helping.

[Ellie]

How are you gonna pay her back?

[Brandi]

I don't know. I didn't think about that yet. I'm just like super over, like I will definitely pay her back. Of course I want to pay back my, you know, my, my. My former boss and stuff.

[Jen]

Hey, I cannot believe they're not pressing charges against that guy.

[Melissa]

Still can because the mom was in there crying his whole Social Security and IRS is gonna be screwed for two years and that's still on the book.

[Jeff]

I would assume that they can probably back that up and go, this is a clerical error and they probably got to send him letters to show the IRS and stuff, I'm assuming. Hey, Bonnie. Welcome to the Burt Show. Bonnie, thank you for the joining us while we're out in la. How are you?

[Brandi]

I'm great.

[Ellie (Guest)]

Hey, I'm just really aggravated because her

[Brandi]

mother didn't cover for her and helped her make it nice. Her mother is the one that has

[Ellie (Guest)]

enabled her to keep on taking responsibility

[Brandi]

for her daughter's actions. Her daughter needs to stand on her

[Ellie (Guest)]

own two feet and understand there's consequences to her own behavior.

[Jeff]

Hey, is it Providencia or Providencia? Welcome. How do I say your name?

[Laura]

Providence here. Good morning, Birch Show. I am so furious with this girl. How dare you. You say I'm not a bad person. No, you are a bad person. You are a c. And for your mother to have to go into her savings account, that is disgusting. And you should be ashamed of yourself. I feel the same way Melissa and Jen feel. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. This guy's like, it's ruined because someone stole my identity and it took two years to clear it up. So something like this is probably going to take four years because companies don't check and they don't go over stuff. She is disgusting. She should cry. She should do everything because she.

[Ellie]

She should stop crying and suck up and try to figure out how she's going to pay everybody back. Suck it up.

[Brandi]

Responsibility.

[Jeff]

Somebody made a good point.

[Ellie]

5.

[Jeff]

Somebody made a good point via email about the thing with. If he was attached to her bank account, you know, and all the direct deposits were going in and there were any checks that didn't clear or credit cards that used that account as a reference or anything like that that also goes on his credit report, which affects him if he's trying to get a car note or a mortgage or whatever. Hey, Robbie. Welcome to the bird show.

[Joseph]

Good morning, Bircho. How y' all guys?

[Ellie]

Good morning.

[Jeff]

We're good. How are you, Robbie?

[Joseph]

I'm doing good, man. I've been listening to y' all shows since y' all started. And, mom, thanks for being. I think this girl is full of BS. I think she's got more than her 15 minutes of fame. I think it's all crap, because when you steal from the government and they find out they're not gonna bargain with you, they're gonna come get you and take you to jail. I think it's just a girl or a lady who made up a story.

[Laura]

Story.

[Joseph]

And when she finally gets off the phone with everybody, she sets back and goes, oh, I was on the radio and I've got. I'm scammed, everybody. I just think she's full of it. I think it's just all. All apart to get on the radio.

[Jen]

Well, she didn't get confronted by the government.

[Jeff]

Yeah, the government.

[Jen]

Her company, the government has been after.

[Ellie]

Yeah, government don't know yet.

[Jeff]

Which. I mean, she can negotiate it with. She can negotiate. Negotiate it with her company to have there be no problem. And she can even negotiate it with the other guy.

[Ellie]

She doesn't sound like she can negotiate.

[Jeff]

It's still a crime.

[Ellie]

Sorry.

[Jeff]

Her representation, her mom. Hey, just a couple more phone calls because they're all going in the same direction. What's up, Tracy? How are you? Hey, Tracy. Welcome to the show. Hello.

[Ellie]

Tracy's so mad.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Ellie]

Can't even talk.

[Jeff]

Hey, what's up, Lucy? Welcome to the show. How are you, Lucy?

[Laura]

Hi.

[Brandi]

I would just be curious to know what else her mother has bailed her out of in her life. How else she's enabled her for the rest of her life.

[Jen]

Can you admit that?

[Brandi]

Brandy, My mom is always there for me, and I am really embarrassed, and I'm not proud of what I did, and I'm humiliated. I just feel like I made a big mistake. I think a lot of colors. The lady's right. Like, I'm. I'm wrong. I am a bad person. Maybe she's right.

[Jen]

Well, I mean, I understand why she's emotional about it. I mean, I also understand why you're pissed off at her. But I. I just. I mean, I understand why she's crying, why she's emotional, and I don't.

[Ellie]

She's done it for two years. She's stolen money for two years, and now all of a sudden, she's gonna get emotional about it?

[Jen]

Well, I think she wasn't in reality, and now reality has hit her over the top of the head. But I don't disagree with you on that. But I also understand. Understand why she's crying. And if she's made a mistake, and she's gonna make it right with her company, her mom, do her time, whatever. I mean, people make mistakes. I mean, it's a calculated one. It's a really bad one. And it's one that could still send her to prison, but as it should.

[Jeff]

And I can't fault Bonnie for going to her mom, because if you have somebody who always backs you up no matter what and helps you out, then

[Jen]

you get Brandy or.

[Jeff]

Brandy. I'm sorry.

[Ellie]

I would never allow my parents to take out of their savings to cover my fraudulent Bud.

[Jeff]

Well, my parents never would.

[Melissa]

I'm just wondering what the affidavit said that she signed, because I'm sure she did.

[Jeff]

You have a lawyer look that over Brandi, or did you just sign it? You and your mom just sign it, or you sign it?

[Brandi]

My mom didn't sign it, but she read it, and I just was willing to do whatever they would let me. I don't want to go to jail, you guys. Like, you're blaming my. You're mad at my mom? You think my mom wants me to go to jail? Even if I did?

[Ellie]

No, I'm mad at you.

[Melissa]

You still can. Yeah, the government can come after you. I mean, there's only so much attorneys can do.

[Brandi]

Well, I don't know. I'm just. Right now, I'm okay with the company, and they said they are not going to the authorities or pressing charges. And the owner company, and he wants me to go to church with him and help me make my life better. And maybe I'M going with him to his church on Sunday.

[Jen]

You should pray. You should.

[Jeff]

Yes. Praying would be a very good thing right now, Brandi. And you are very lucky that you work for a company like that.

[Brandi]

I know. I know.

[Jeff]

Everyone's mad at me.

[Brandi]

I'm embarrassed.

[Jen]

Of course you are. I mean, I think all you've got to do at this point is to take steps to make it right, you know, take steps to make it right. And take steps to look at yourself and look inside and figure out what got you here to this place. You know, what? Like, what inside of you made you entitled to that money? Why did you think that that money should be be yours just because you needed it and you didn't work for it? And you know what I'm saying? Like, what's on the inside, stuff that's getting you to that point?

[Brandi]

I know it's wrong now, but, like, honestly, at the time, I was like,

[Jen]

I just make a difference for you.

[Jeff]

It was just greed. And now it's over. And good luck with it. Okay?

[Brandi]

Okay. Thank you.

[Jen]

Good luck.

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