Full Show PT 3: Monday, March 16 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show — Full Show PT 3: Monday, March 16 [Vault]

Date: March 16, 2026
Hosts: Bert, Jeff Bird, Jeff Dahl, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, Producer Tracy
Episode Focus: Relationship drama, navigating childbirth support, and a long-lost love story reunion

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Bert Show kicks off with lively banter and two central, interweaving storylines: a heated debate about a dad’s place during childbirth, and a vulnerable update on a listener’s quest to reconnect with a high school sweetheart after 17 years. Throughout, the hosts balance playful teasing, earnest advice, and audience interaction, keeping the tone candid and humorous while diving deep into relationship dynamics.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Should Fathers Have a Choice in the Delivery Room? (00:29–14:03)

Background

• Main Characters: Brian (expectant father), Producer Tracy (pregnant), Brian's wife, Jessica, Tracy's husband Scott
• Issue: Brian expressed to his pregnant wife that he didn’t want to be in the delivery room, describing the experience as “gross and disgusting.” This prompted a backlash both from his wife and the show’s cast.

Key Moments & Insights

• Origins of the Debate (00:29–01:27)
  • Jeff Dahl raises the question: Should being in the delivery room be an option for dads, given that it wasn’t always common?
  • “Some guys might have weak stomachs or not want to see their wives in that state... So, I mean, busy labor can take 24 hours or longer.” — Jeff Dahl (00:42)
• Escalation & Advice (01:51–03:30)
  • Tracy asks her husband if he wants to be in the delivery room, causing tension. Brian tries to take gentler advice by involving his wife's sister, bringing her flowers to ease the discussion.
  • “She basically cut me off and just said, 'Don’t worry about it.'" — Brian (03:30)
  • “You don’t want to be in the delivery room? Fine. Stay in the waiting room.” — Brian’s wife (reported by Brian at 03:30)
• Control vs. Choice (04:08–07:51)
  • Brian laments the lack of control: He only wanted it to be his choice to be in the waiting room, not something he was told to do.
  • “I wanted to be in the waiting room, but I want it to be my choice to be in the waiting room.” — Brian (05:17)
  • Hosts and callers point out the contradiction and control issues at play.
  • Jeff Bird sharply concludes: “You got issues, man.” (05:42)
• Listener/Call-In Responses (07:46–13:09)
  • Judy (caller): “I just can’t even believe this idiot... He's going to be paying for this for the rest of his life, not only with his own guilt, but she is never going to forgive him.” (07:47)
  • Kimberly (caller, doula): Advocates for hiring professional support so the dad can step in or out as needed, recounts stories of dads fainting during labor.
• Hosts’ Final Takeaways
  • Bert summarizes, “I think the whole issue... was the fact of having control. Having an option for the man to be able to say what he wants to do and be able to do it. And so he didn’t get what he wanted.” (13:33)
  • The team concludes the debate is now more about “control issues” than the logistics of childbirth.

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2. “The One That Got Away”: Craig Looks for Heather (14:57–21:15)

Backstory

• Craig, a musician, shares that he’s been unable to forget Heather, his high school sweetheart, despite 17 years, a marriage, and children of his own.

Key Moments & Insights

• Craig Shares His Story (14:57–16:37)
  • “I don’t think a day has gone by where I haven’t thought about her. I’m still in love.” — Craig (15:16)
  • He’s tried to find her on social media for years without success.
• Reflecting on Lost Love
  • “I always wondered, you know, I think everybody has that one, and she was mine.” — Craig (16:26)
  • Hosts and Tracy suggest this will be cathartic, allowing Craig to move fully forward in his life.
• The Search for Heather (17:44–18:53)
  • Producer Tracy and Blue Dog Investigations successfully track down Heather's contact.
  • “She said, 'Oh my gosh. Wow, small world. Yes, I did date him.'” — Producer Tracy (18:55)
• Heather’s Side and Next Steps (19:37–21:15)
  • Tracy explains Heather’s busy schedule may keep her from calling in live, but she agrees to answer Craig’s questions by email or possibly join the show later.
  • “At this point, you got zero to lose, right? Zero.” — Jeff Bird (21:03)
  • Craig, nervous but hopeful, is eager for closure or a new beginning.
• Emotional Payoff
  • The segment sets up a future episode for Craig and Heather’s possible on-air reunion and resolution.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “His exact quote was, ‘It’s gross and disgusting,’ which might not have been the tact... probably not the proper maneuver, but I think it’s recoverable.” — Jeff Dahl (02:04)
• “It’s just, I’m just constantly being told what to do here... None of this is my choice.” — Brian (04:12)
• “You don’t want to be in the delivery room? Fine. Stay in the waiting room. That’s great. Just do what you want.” — Jeff Bird (06:59)
• “If you take my advice, you’re more [foolish than you think].” — Jeff Dahl, laughing at himself (08:06)
• “I don’t think a day has gone by where I haven’t thought about her. I’m still in love.” — Craig (15:16)
• “The nostalgia of the whole thing could make it more romantic and intense than it could be maybe today.” — Brian (16:59)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:29–14:03 — Delivery room debate: Control, communication, and caller reactions
• 07:46–13:09 — Listener call-ins (Judy, Kimberly) and closing arguments on the childbirth debate
• 14:57–21:15 — Craig’s unresolved love story, the search for Heather, and plans for re-connection

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Episode Takeaways

• Navigating Control in Relationships: The team humorously exposes how wanting choice and control, even in moments meant for support, can backfire. The importance of empathy, communication, and timing surfaces repeatedly.
• Long-Lost Love and Closure: Craig’s vulnerable story resonates as a universal human experience, inviting the audience to reflect on “the one that got away” while promising more to come.

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Episode Tone & Style

Candid, playful, and occasionally blunt, the hosts balance real talk with laughter and listener interaction. No topic is too awkward or personal, and the “family” feel encourages both tough love and genuine empathy.

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For listeners who missed the show, this episode delivers comedic relief and serious insights into modern relationships, all while setting the stage for a heartfelt romantic reunion.

Transcript

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[Jeff Dahl]

I just threw it out there. He's the one he decided to follow. I wouldn't follow my own advice if I didn't.

[Jeff Bird]

In fact, Jessica's already told him that you're not allowed to follow your own advice if she gets pregnant.

[Jeff Dahl]

Right. And my big thing was, you know, with guys in the delivery room that years ago they weren't allowed in there, and now they are allowed in there. And there was never an option presented. It was just like, oh, you can come in now. And some guys might have weak stomachs or not want to see their wives in that state or have other things to do. So, I mean, busy labor can take busy, busy, busy 24 hours or longer, some cases. You know what I mean? So what's a guy just going to stop his life?

[Brian]

Like, you know, stats to check online, ESPN, Google.

[Jeff Dahl]

So a lot of videos on break.com I have not seen yet.

[Brian]

True.

[Jeff Dahl]

So I wonder if I could bring my laptop in.

[Jeff Bird]

You could do anything you want. Just know that you're not going to have a wife to go back to work.

[Jeff Dahl]

Right, Right.

[Bert]

So alone after that day, but just

[Jeff Dahl]

kind of talking about this. And we were talking about it. Jessica, my wife is not pregnant, but our producer Tracy is. And, you know, I did tell her to go ask her husband Scott if he wanted to be in the delivery room. And he was so offended, they got in an argument like, I couldn't believe you asked me that.

[Jeff Bird]

Of course, of course. Jeff is just saying it should be an option.

[Bert]

So you started two arguments in two separate relationships. One in Tracy's with Scott and second with Brian and his wife.

[Jeff Dahl]

Yeah.

[Jeff Bird]

Feels good for you, doesn't it?

[Jeff Dahl]

So Brian, Brian did the same thing. You know, Tracy went and said, hey, do you really want to be in there? And then Brian did the opposite thing. It went to his pregnant wife and said, hey, I really don't want to be in there. His exact Quote was, it's gross and disgusting, which might not have been the tact. That might not have been the approach, the invasion plan I would have executed before playing Risk. You know, that's probably not the proper maneuver, but I think it's recoverable. And we gave him some suggestions yesterday, and Bert was very helpful, too, so.

[Jeff Bird]

Morning. Q100A.

[Jeff Dahl]

Brian Gags.

[Jeff Bird]

Gags.

[Scott]

Good morning, guys.

[Bert]

Good morning.

[Brian]

Let's gag me with.

[Jeff Dahl]

Seriously.

[Jeff Bird]

Wow. Goes along with the repertoire. I think we had a couple.

[Brian]

Wait a second.

[Jeff Dahl]

Somebody's up to some tomfoolery.

[Bert]

You brought up Archie Bunker earlier.

[Jeff Dahl]

Jeff Dahl, who's involved in shenanigans around here.

[Bert]

Old school.

[Jeff Bird]

Brian's back here. All right, Brian. So you tried a re. Approach last night with your pregnant wife?

[Scott]

I did. I went out and I got the flowers, and I went and, you know, talked to her, and I took you guys advice and was basically going to suggest that her sister, who already has a kid, being there with her, since she has experience and she's done this before, and it didn't really go as well as I'd hoped.

[Bert]

Really?

[Brian]

Yeah.

[Jeff Bird]

No way. I never saw it again. Never saw this.

[Jeff Dahl]

Hey, hold on.

[Brian]

So you took Jeff's advice.

[Jeff Dahl]

Listen to what he's saying.

[Scott]

Well, what wound up happening was, is I brought her the flowers, and I could kind of tell that they really weren't working at all. And I kind of plowed ahead anyways, and she basically cut me off and just said, don't worry about it. And I hadn't even had a chance to talk to her sister, but she had already talked to her sister and. Or rather her sister, and she had already talked to her sister and basically said, you know what? She's gonna be in the delivery with me. You don't have to be here at all. You can wait in the waiting room, and we'll just call you when it's done. And she's still mad at me.

[Jeff Bird]

Yeah, of course she is.

[Jeff Dahl]

Well, no, but you got what you wanted.

[Jeff Bird]

No, he didn't. No, he didn't.

[Scott]

I mean, now it's. I mean, that's another situation where, like, I don't want to be in the waiting room, but now even if I did, I can't be in there. It's just basically. I mean, I may as well just, you know, stand somewhere and hold her suitcases for. I'm just being. I'm just constantly being told what to do here, like you.

[Jeff Bird]

So now you don't want to be

[Scott]

in the waiting room. Get the waiting room. Don't be in the waiting room. It's just I have no say in

[Jeff Dahl]

it,

[Scott]

you know, if I don't want to be in the waiting room. If I said yes, waiting or delivery, or rather in the delivery room.

[Jeff Bird]

Okay, If.

[Scott]

If I was supposed to be in the delivery, if I wanted to be in delivery room, if I said yes to being in the living room, I was only gonna be there because she told me to, and now I'm being told to wait in the waiting room. And, I mean, it's just. I'm Just. None of this is my choice.

[Jeff Bird]

Well, what else. Where else do you want to be?

[Jeff Dahl]

I mean, he wants the option.

[Jeff Bird]

You said you didn't want to be in the delivery room, so where else do you want to be?

[Jeff Dahl]

But she took away the option from him.

[Scott]

I wanted to be in the waiting room, but I want it to be my choice to be in the waiting room.

[Jeff Bird]

What?

[Brian]

What?

[Producer Tracy]

She just gave you your choice? That was it.

[Bert]

That's the problem. She gave me.

[Scott]

No, she didn't give me my choice. She told me to. Basically, I'm not allowed in the delivery.

[Bert]

She had a control. So he didn't know that's what you want.

[Jeff Bird]

You didn't want to be in the living room, right?

[Scott]

In a way, yeah. But, I mean, you know, I just. I'd like it for. I'd like to actually have some say in it.

[Jeff Bird]

You got issues, man.

[Craig]

How long have y' all been there?

[Scott]

Even if I wanted to be in the. In the living room, I'm not allowed.

[Jeff Bird]

What?

[Brian]

You're just. You got.

[Jeff Bird]

You got control, big time. Control issues, whatever.

[Scott]

Well, I mean, not only that, but her sister's got a kid. I mean, yeah, the kid's not bad, but, you know, like you guys said, you know, sometimes labor takes about, you know, 24 hours, which I hope it doesn't take that long for her sake as well as mine, but I've got a babysitter kid in the waiting room the entire time.

[Jeff Bird]

Hold on one second. At this point, this guy's jacking with us, right?

[Brian]

I'm just confused on what even his point is about having a choice or making the decision. I don't even know what he's saying.

[Bert]

Jeff, you're his leader.

[Jeff Bird]

At this point.

[Jeff Dahl]

I know exactly what he's saying. He didn't want to be in the delivery room, right? So he goes and he tells his wife, and so she takes that option away from him, okay? And now he's just panicked because he doesn't have an option.

[Jeff Bird]

That's the most ridiculous Thing I've ever heard.

[Brian]

It doesn't make sense to me.

[Jeff Bird]

He doesn't want to be controlled at all. He wants to do what? He wants to do this. He wants it to be his choice

[Brian]

if he wanted to.

[Jeff Dahl]

Right now he's afraid that if he's in the waiting room and he's like, well, I want to be a part of this. And he goes to walk in, his wife and her sister are both going to be like, you blew it. Get out.

[Brian]

Well, that's what they're already saying, right? I mean, she's already so mad at him, she doesn't want him in there anymore.

[Jeff Bird]

And I'm sure the conversation was something like, okay, you don't want to be in the delivery room, fine. Stay in the way. That's great. Just do what you want to do. And now he's got it. But she didn't say it in a way that he really believes she's accepting.

[Jeff Dahl]

Exactly.

[Jeff Bird]

So he's not.

[Jeff Dahl]

She did the equivalent of, all right, fine, if you're not gonna move your car into the garage, I'll do it. And then you feel guilty for the rest of the night because you know what I mean?

[Brian]

Gotcha. So he wanted her to somehow be like, oh, sweetie, that's just fine. You do whatever you do. I just love you, and that's gonna be fine. Whatever you wanna do. Lazy.

[Jeff Bird]

Yeah. You know what, Brian? You're right. It is gross and it is disgusting.

[Brian]

Is that what he wanted?

[Jeff Bird]

And I. You made me realize how disgusting it is. So go ahead. If you really need to be in the waiting room, go ahead. That's what he wanted to hear. What a tool.

[Producer Tracy]

What a jerk.

[Jeff Bird]

Judy, you're on Q100.

[Caller (Female)]

Oh, I just can't even believe this idiot. Oh, my God. I mean, what is wrong with him? He goes home yesterday to apologize and thinks she's going to accept his apology. And, I mean, he's going to be paying for this for the rest of his life, not only with his own guilt, but she is never going to forgive him.

[Bert]

Way to go, Jeff.

[Jeff Dahl]

Hey, I. I just put it out there. I wouldn't take. Like I said, I. If you take my advice, you're more.

[Jeff Bird]

Now, we've had a lot of people save that.

[Bert]

Yes. We've had a lot of people who said we were being too hard on Brian. So I just want to give the challenge to those.

[Jeff Bird]

They're still coming.

[Bert]

Okay. All right, here's one.

[Jeff Bird]

Kimberly, call up.

[Caller (Female)]

Hello?

[Jeff Bird]

Hello?

[Producer Tracy]

Hello?

[Caller (Female)]

Good morning.

[Jeff Bird]

Yeah, you tell us.

[Caller (Female)]

Well, look, this guy definitely made A mistake. He. By telling his wife. I mean, if she's scared too, she can't leave. She has to be there. But the solution to all of it, they need to hire a doula. Get a doula in the room so he can go in and out if he needs to. I have caught many a man who have passed out in the delivery room.

[Jeff Dahl]

Do you work in a delivery room or do you just creepily hang out there?

[Caller (Female)]

I'm a certified doula. I'm a professional labor supporter.

[Jeff Bird]

I've never even heard of that phrase before. What is that?

[Caller (Female)]

A professional labor support?

[Brian]

Oh, yeah, it's like. What was the former term of it?

[Caller (Female)]

Well, a lot of people compare it to midwifery. Yes, except we do not do any of the medical. The midwives come and do all the checks and the tests and all that. We're there as professional support.

[Jeff Dahl]

Is it midwifery or midwifery?

[Scott]

What?

[Jeff Bird]

Either way, tomato, tomato.

[Brian]

Yeah, but I've heard of. I've heard of a lot of successful natural births with doulas.

[Jeff Bird]

I just don't. I don't think it's a doula issue. I think it's a him now just feeling like he's being controlled issue, like it didn't matter one way or the other. Ryan.

[Scott]

Yes, guys, you're right. I mean, I do have control issues because I have no control on this. It's just I'm being told, stay out. I'm being told, get in. I'm being told, stay out.

[Brian]

And it's, well, you started this. You're not being told anything. You went to your wife and you started this saying, hey, I don't wanna start this.

[Scott]

I told her I didn't want to

[Brian]

be in there, which means you started it.

[Scott]

She was telling me I had to be in there.

[Jeff Bird]

You got what you wanted. You didn't want to be in the delivery room. She gave you that. But not in the way that you wanted it to be given.

[Scott]

Because now I'm being told I can't be in there.

[Jeff Bird]

So what? Ideally, when you walked in there, what did you want her to say? I can't believe how pissed I'm getting. What did you want her to say?

[Brian]

I know.

[Scott]

Basically, I wanted to realize that having her sister in there would be a better idea, and it would be a better idea. It would be good if I were in the waiting room. And now, basically, she's looking at as being a good thing. I'm in the waiting room. She's looking at as a bad thing, me being in the delivery Room. And it's just, you know, you go here, you go, there you go. Where I tell you to go.

[Jeff Bird]

Where you can go.

[Jeff Dahl]

Bet.

[Jeff Bird]

Hey, Jennifer, you're on Q100.

[Caller (Female)]

I cannot believe this guy. First he doesn't want to be in there. Now he wants to be in there. Whatever. My husband, he didn't really like that yucky stuff. But, you know, I talked to another day, and he said he doesn't remember any of it. You don't realize when you're looking at it that, you know, that's what you're seeing. You just see the baby, and you totally forget about it. So he just needs to suck it up and deal with it and be in there. And you know what? You're gonna regret it. Dude. You are totally gonna regret it.

[Jeff Bird]

You are gonna regret it.

[Brian]

This is such a sad way to start the life of your child. You know what I mean? It's like all of your life is gonna completely change. This is your first baby together, and. And when you become parents, it completely changes your life. You aren't the important one anymore. And this is how. This is the first step in that whole parenting process. She's going to deliver the child with her sister alone and not trust you to be there and doesn't even want you to be there now.

[Jeff Bird]

And at this point, it's not even reversible. I mean, what you've done already, the last 48 hours with her is the memory that she's gonna have going into the delivery. It's not even reversible now. I mean, the only thing I think.

[Jeff Dahl]

I think he. I think you need to talk to your wife tonight and explain that that child is yours.

[Bert]

See, what Following Jeff has put you where it's put you thus far.

[Jeff Dahl]

I've been very quiet during the second.

[Bert]

Yes.

[Jeff Bird]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dahl]

Sometimes my wife.

[Brian]

In the beginning, you came strong.

[Jeff Dahl]

Yeah.

[Brian]

And now you're like, oh, no, I

[Jeff Bird]

gotta take one more call because it's from Jenna, who totally agrees with him. Okay, Jenna, go ahead.

[Caller (Female)]

Good morning, Bircho. I have to admit that I lied. I don't agree with him at all. But I do. I just wanted to ask him if this is their first child they're having.

[Scott]

Yeah, this is the first one.

[Caller (Female)]

First one, Brian. Okay.

[Brian]

Do you.

[Caller (Female)]

Do you know how scared your wife probably is?

[Scott]

Well, I think she's more mad at me than scared of anything else. I know it's a gigantic ordeal, but, I mean, like, they said that this is the first ordeal. This is the first thing in the child's life, and it's a bad example. Well, what kind of example is it if the first thing our child's life, the example we set is just have the dad go do whatever the mom tells him to do? I mean, well, what's going to happen later on?

[Caller (Female)]

But see, Brian, that's not what this is about. You getting told what to do.

[Scott]

I'm not going to be given an option.

[Jeff Bird]

Yeah, no one is going to say anything here to make you feel better about it. And your wife is not even capable of saying anything now to make you feel better about it. So whatever. I don't know what to tell you. She's not going to give you what you want. She's not going to be okay with you not being in the delivery room. So you got what you want. She did the best she could. Go ahead. You don't want to be in here. You got my permission. Go. You got what you wanted. That's as good as it's going to get.

[Bert]

But I don't think that's what he wanted. I think the whole issue when Jeff first started was the fact of having control, having an option for the man to be able to say what he wants to do and be able to do it. And so he didn't get what he wanted.

[Jeff Bird]

Yeah, this is not being, this is, I don't think, an issue about either being in the delivery room or not anymore. It's a total control issue.

[Brian]

And I'm sure it's not about gross and disgusting.

[Jeff Bird]

And I'm sure if we were in your house like every day, this would be the real issue that's going on in your house. Yeah, Brian, I'm leaving. Bye bye.

[Scott]

Goodbye.

[Jeff Dahl]

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[Craig]

I'm a musician. I've been in bands since I was 16. I had a high school sweetheart, and we used to play Extreme all the time. My band played it with our song. Yeah, Anytime that comes on, it just kills me. And we broke up when I was 17. I'm 34 now. I don't think a day has gone by where I haven't think about her. I'm still in love.

[Jeff Bird]

Oh, I've tried to find her a

[Craig]

million times on MySpace and Facebook and all that stuff, and I can't never, ever find her.

[Jeff Bird]

God, we are hopeless romantics right now.

[Producer Tracy]

Mine's so sweet, though.

[Brian]

I felt the same way hearing it again. It was like the first time.

[Jeff Bird]

Hey, Craig. Good morning.

[Craig]

Good morning.

[Jeff Bird]

Hey. Welcome back.

[Craig]

A little nervous this morning.

[Jeff Bird]

Well, I mean, 17 years ago, you and Heather. And it's accurate to say that you have thought about her every single day for 17 years?

[Craig]

Yeah, pretty much. Even if it was just the second or. She was my. The person that I measured everyone up to.

[Brian]

Why do you think you haven't been able to let her go?

[Craig]

It was my fault in the circumstances of our breakup and everything. And then I was young, I was decided to go into the military, and I think that was. That intensified it a little bit because I was alone. I was in Europe, and, you know, the last real girlfriend that I had ended like that. I had a lot of time to think.

[Jeff Bird]

Now, you've been married since then.

[Scott]

Yes.

[Jeff Bird]

You've had children. A totally different life. I mean, obviously over the last 17 years, your life goes in one direction, her life goes in another direction. But you write in your email that through all that stuff, every single day, you've thought about her.

[Craig]

Yeah, I never obsessed about it or anything, but I always thought about her. Even when my kids were born and everything. I always wondered, you know, I think everybody has that one, and she was mine.

[Producer Tracy]

Do you secretly hope that she's still available?

[Scott]

It wouldn't be bad.

[Bert]

I do think this will be good for you because I would so hate for if, you know, as the mother of your children, for you to wonder about having the children with someone else or being with somebody else. So I think this would be good for you either way. Either you can pursue it with her or actually 100% pursue it with somebody else instead of always measuring them up to her.

[Brian]

And you realize the nostalgia of the whole thing could make it more romantic and intense than it could be maybe today.

[Craig]

You know, neither One of us are those people anymore. You always retain a part of that. If the circumstances were that she was available and, you know, didn't. Didn't still hate me, then, yeah, I would love to hear again you say still hate me.

[Jeff Bird]

Was the breakup a really bad one?

[Craig]

I think so. She'll tell you, I was devastated. You know, it was my fault, but I was still the one that was devastated. So, you know, I tried and tried and tried and begged and to get her back, and she just wasn't hearing it. You retain a part of that person that you were. But, you know, I mean, throughout my experiences and everything that I've been through,

[Scott]

I'm obviously a completely different person.

[Jeff Dahl]

Right.

[Jeff Bird]

So let me ask you this. And I know we got your name, and we got her name a while ago, and Blue Dog Investigations and producer Tracy have been working very hard and trying to get in touch with her. So, Trace, where are we right now?

[Producer Tracy]

Well, Blue Dog found an address for me, so we knew exactly where she was. And then I did a little more research, too, based on that information and found an email address for her. I wasn't sure if it was the right girl, so I emailed her and just kind of said, you know, hey, did you go to this high school? Did you live in this area? And it turned out to be her, and she was very, very nice. I have not asked her if she's been married because, you know, I didn't exactly get into the whole reason Craig was looking for her. However, I can say that her last name hasn't changed. So she either didn't get married or

[Jeff Dahl]

she's one of them independent women.

[Producer Tracy]

She kept her last name, and I asked her if she would come on the air with us. All I've told her at this point was that, you know, first I said somebody from your past was looking for you. I explained who we were, and then she wanted a little bit more information. So, you know, I did tell her it was Craig. And based on an email I had gotten from Craig, I didn't seem to think that that would be a problem with him because he had given me a message to relay to her.

[Jeff Bird]

He's ready to put it out there.

[Producer Tracy]

So she said, oh, my gosh. Wow, small world. Yes, I did date him. You know, I asked her if she'd be willing to come on the air with us just because this is the kind of thing that we do. And she said she. She wanted to talk to me further about it, like, on the phone rather than via email, but she said she Was willing. She just wanted the information up front. And then that was over Christmas break. And then I hadn't heard from her for like, several weeks, so I was getting nervous that she might have backed out. Finally yesterday, she got back in touch with me and said, so sorry, I've been out of town for work. She's really, really busy. Apparently she has a full time job and she teaches. So we're just trying to line up schedules at this point to try and find a time that works for her that she can talk to me first and then get her on the radio.

[Jeff Bird]

So we can. We can do this one of a couple of different ways, depending on what she's most comfortable with, is we get the 10 questions that you want most to ask her, we'll get them from you, and we can either ask them to her on the air or we will send her a list of those 10 questions. She will answer them, and then we will read them to you as she answered them on the air.

[Bert]

It just depends on her schedule.

[Jeff Bird]

It all depends on what she wants to do.

[Producer Tracy]

She did, because I gave her that option when I thought that she wasn't getting back in touch with me. And she did ask to do it that way, only because of her schedule. But then I tried to convince her to come on the air. So I think. I'm not sure which one she's gonna do.

[Jeff Bird]

Well, producer Tracy can be very persuasive.

[Producer Tracy]

What I haven't done, I'm finding her,

[Brian]

by the way, she's awesome.

[Bert]

She sounds sweet on air, but tr. She has her way.

[Producer Tracy]

What I haven't done, though, is told her why Craig has been looking for and how much Craig has been thinking about her for the past 17 years.

[Jeff Bird]

Good. That's good. I think that's really good.

[Jeff Dahl]

She's not local, right?

[Producer Tracy]

She is not local.

[Jeff Dahl]

Okay.

[Bert]

Okay.

[Jeff Bird]

So we're gonna see how this plays out over the next couple of days. We'll see if she wants to come on with us, and if not, then we'll get her answers. And sometime over the next 48 hours, we'll have those 10 answers that you sent to her. Will have the. I should say the questions that you sent. We'll have the answers. So chew on this for 24 hours and we'll see what kind of reaction we can get from out of her. I mean, and ideally, she comes on and she answers the 10 questions, right?

[Scott]

Oh, my God.

[Craig]

A little nervous.

[Jeff Bird]

Yeah. Well, at this point, you got zero to lose, right? Zero.

[Craig]

Well, I know it's been something I'VE been thinking about for so long that now that communicate with her, talk to her.

[Scott]

It's just surreal.

[Jeff Bird]

All right, well, give us a couple days and we'll put it all together and we'll see how it all pans out.

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