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Jeff
the bird show.
Jessica
Everyone's doing a lot. Obviously doing a lot of holiday travel, and obviously I did take a plane trip this weekend. And we need to go ahead and make some rules for airplane etiquette because I ran into a couple of trouble spots on my airplane.
Jeff
People are getting more rude, I think, on planes now.
Jessica
Yeah. Not even. Yeah, just inconsiderate. I don't. Yeah, very inconsiderate. Can I go ahead and just start the rules?
Radio Host
Sure.
Katie
Let's all.
Jeff
Let's all try to contribute to these, because I think we all have these kind of gripes.
Katie
Chime in a couple of.
Jessica
All right, rule number one, Use your indoor voice. Nobody needs to hear your whole conversation from the front of the plane.
Melissa
Oh, my God.
Katie
Who did you have? That was like. That was drunk.
Jessica
No, she wasn't even drunk. She just wanted everyone to hear her life story and how great of a marathon runner she was. She was just terrific.
Katie
And you were like, shut.
Ashley
I could care less about your running skills.
Jessica
I could care less. But you could literally, like, she was like, rose behind me. And you could hear this entire conversation. How she spoke Spanish or she was trying to speak Spanish, but she was a great runner.
Jeff
Now, was she speaking to somebody next to her or was she on her
Jessica
cell phone speaking to someone next to her?
Jeff
Okay. Because I know the cell phone. Loud talkers are even worse on a plane.
Jessica
Also just someone next to her. So indoor voices.
Melissa
Can I expand upon that? Because as long as we're talking about talking, right, you need to learn to read the signs of the person next to you, the stranger next to you. And if they are not willing to engage, stop trying.
Jeff
Yeah. Hands folded the way Jeffs are right now. Reading when you get to your seat. We're reading. We're not really Reading. We're looking at the magazine to indicate to you that we don't wan.
Melissa
Right. I'm trying to memorize the picture.
Katie
If my ipod earbuds are in my ear, that means don't chat.
Jeff
Don't chat.
Jessica
Absolutely.
Melissa
When I was flying back from Los Angeles, I forgot my ipod.
Jeff
Oh.
Melissa
But I wore the headphones.
Katie
Tragic.
Jessica
Did you plug them into the side of the side of the arm?
Melissa
I had them. I had my bag on the floor and I just had them go into the bag. I put the zipper tight around it and I just leaned that back and left them in.
Ashley
If I'm not giving you eye contact, that means I don't want you to talk to me.
Jeff
Read the signs.
Ashley
Yeah.
Jessica
Okay. And rule number two, actually going to San Antonio, I had a seat near the front of the plane and needed to move because the family needed to sit together. Blah. That was fine. So I moved to the back of the plane and sat on an aisle seat. Well, there's two larger people next to me, so I'm literally off the seat the entire time. So just be considerate of the person sitting next to you.
Katie
Were they like hogging the armrest and all that stuff?
Jessica
He didn't want to put the armrest down.
Melissa
He needed the room.
Jeff
You can't do that.
Jessica
And I had no room. So I'm like, literally half my butt is off the seat the entire plane trip. That's a two and a half hour trip.
Katie
That's not cool.
Jessica
Maybe like offer me a window. I don't know.
Ashley
So, so you're saying is that the, the plane. The plane's responsibility? Cause I mean, obviously if he was a larger person, you're saying that he couldn't have done anything about.
Jessica
Well, he could ask to put like the armrest down or if I was comfortable, if I. I don't know.
Jeff
You gotta set that border. The armrest always has to be down unless it's mutually agreed upon. That's rude.
Katie
And then if they, if he can't put it down, then you should have called a flight attendant and just said,
Ashley
listen, that's my concern. That he could not physically have that armrest.
Jessica
Yeah, yeah.
Jeff
This was a debate for a while there. Also that if people are. Are so large that they can't fit in one seat and they're sort of like they're taking up two seats. Should they have to pay for two seats on a plane so you don't have to go through that?
Katie
I would say yes to that if all the airplane seats were the same size. But you can't tell. Sometimes, I mean, sometimes you're on a plane, you that feels like you got plenty of room and other times I feel squished and sweaty.
Ashley
Agreed.
Katie
And I don't feel like I'm overweight at all. So as someone that is, I mean, I know you'd be squished into some of those.
Melissa
You know, Canadian courts just ruled that airlines have to give obese passengers two seats and only charge them for one.
Jeff
Is that right?
Jessica
Really? Wow, that's a good idea.
Katie
I think that another rule needs to be common courtesy for older people, for elderly people. It drives me crazy when I see like a young man, like maybe in his mid-30s, whatever, just in a hustle to try to get out and not helping, like a 70 something year old woman get her suitcase down from the overhead bin and she's obviously either struggling to get it up there or struggling to get it down. Like zero chivalry. Like, I actually like stepped in front of a guy on my flight back from Tampa to help this woman get her suitcase down. Like, excuse me, get out of the way. Like, I'm sorry you're in such a rush you can't be bothered to help this woman out. But she's obviously struggling.
Ashley
I think that infuriates me. I think this is society wide. I think young guys are less and less likely to do that.
Katie
Oh my gosh, that just made me so mad. I was like, you're an able bodied person. Help her.
Jeff
It's the same with the train on the way to the plane. Also, like if you're sitting down and somebody over the age, like, I don't know, 70, 70, you can just tell by looking at them, they need your seat, man.
Katie
Get us, let them sit down. Or I even say people with children. I always get up for people who have kids or they're struggling with strollers and toddlers and babies and all that stuff. It's like here you need more se space to sit or whatever.
Jeff
You know, there's some deep planing etiquette that people seem to like, not pay attention to anymore. Also there's a reason why the aisles go 1 through 30. And when we're getting off the plane, this is how it goes. One gets to go out before two.
Katie
Yeah.
Jeff
You know, row two gets to go out before three, three gets to go out before four. If you're in seven, you're not allowed to skip up to four.
Melissa
Actually, I don't, I don't really agree with that.
Katie
Why?
Jeff
I think you're thinking connecting flights.
Melissa
If it's your final destination. I think you hang, hang back. If the person next to you, like, if Jessica and I are like center and window and we're in Atlanta, we'll let most of the people go.
Jeff
I can agree with that.
Melissa
Until there's a big gap because I've been that person who's got 30 minutes to connect on a flight and I'm not familiar with the airport and it could be some crap place like freaking Dallas, who makes you get on a helicopter to go to a freaking different part of the airport because that airport sucks my butt. So it could be that airport, but so I will always hang back because there's nothing, I feel, I feel panicked for the people that I see running.
Jeff
I think that's the part of the etiquette also. If this is your final destination, you do, you, you do got to hang out.
Ashley
But those don't take advantage of that. I think that a lot of times the plane, you know, sometimes the pilots do know that they have passengers that are running short and been on plenty of planes where they made the announcement for, you know, these people to be able to go through. But don't do it just because you want to get. You're trying to get to the, you know, get to your car or get to whatever and you're ready to get home. Yeah, you're ready to get home.
Jessica
Who cares?
Jeff
Grey's anatomy starts today.
Ashley
10 minutes just to. Yes. Sit there for a second.
Melissa
Hey, Angela, get home for gray.
Jeff
Good morning, Angela. You're on Q100.
Caller
Hey, good morning. First, if you're traveling with children, you should be willing to Benadryl your child. Otherwise you should be willing to give them whatever they want. Because there was a lady with a kid behind me and she kept yelling at the kid because it was screaming going, no, you can't have it. No, I was going to give it whatever it wanted in about two seconds.
Jeff
You got to control your kids. I have two kids and I was telling these guys yesterday, I got on this plane from New York to Atlanta and I have an 18 month old, a six year old, no problem on a plane. I mean, we could go to Sri Lanka and he'd sit there quietly as long as there's a DVD in front of him. But the 18 month old is so sketchy. And we get to our row and there were three other children, all the same age, as roughly the same age as my 18 month old. And I as a parent went into a panic because when one kid starts yelling on a plane about 18 months, it's contagious. Like, one of them hears, ahh. And the other one's like, oh, I can do that. Cool.
Ashley
And I want to add to that, just because I'm a woman, don't assume that I'm maternal, because I think a lot of times.
Katie
Save that.
Ashley
Yes, yes. Katie and I are two completely different women. Katie is like baby whisperer. She sees a baby in a mile radius and she knows a baby's around. But I think a lot of times mothers too, if they're. If they're having a, I don't know, hard time with their kid. And I sympathize. So I'm not saying that, you know, parents are totally to blame, but I find a lot of times, if I'm standing there because I'm a woman, she'll ask for my help, which is fine, I'll help her. But then in times on a plane where the baby's looking at me and wants to cry or talk or whatever, or pull my hair, you know, because I'm a woman, sometimes the mother will allow the baby to continue doing that because she assumes I think it's cute.
Jeff
The game of peekaboo that the kid plays between the seats. All right, let's. Let's all agree 30 seconds and then
Ashley
you gotta get that.
Jeff
Cute for 30, cute for 30.
Katie
I do have more maternal instincts, so I would say cute for three minutes.
Jeff
Oh, wait,
Ashley
30 seconds.
Katie
I give them three.
Ashley
But I. Yeah, I. And I'm sorry, parents, but I don't think your child is as cute as you do. I really don't. I never do. I'm sorry. I never do.
Katie
I do that too.
Melissa
This will cause you to panic, Melissa, but I was on a flip a couple years ago where the mom had to go get something. You know, I have to put the stroller down below, and she had to go get something out of the stroller and ask me to hold her kids.
Jeff
Oh, no.
Melissa
I go, no problem. So she gets up to go, and I'm sitting there, you know, bouncing the kid, doing whatever. Then the crowd forms and I see her stuck. Then the kid starts to cry, and it's not even my kid. And I'm like, give me a pacifier. Give me anything. So I found, like, I. The guy in front of me smoked. So I got some cigarette butts and taped him together and let him suck on that for a few minutes.
Ashley
It's a good idea.
Melissa
Like MacGyver.
Jeff
I told these guys, my 18 month old has great timing. Everything's fine. We change his diaper before we get on the flight. Then just as the flight starts rolling down the Runway for takeoff, he craps himself. And as a parent, there's nothing you can do, man. You're not allowed to get out of your seat. Everybody is stuck with my kid's butt for the next 10 minutes until you're at a height that you can actually move around. That crap smell goes all through the plane, and I knew it.
Ashley
Oh, but there's.
Melissa
You know what?
Jessica
There's two kids in front of you.
Jeff
Yeah.
Melissa
There's five other people. Yeah.
Jeff
They didn't know which one it came from.
Ashley
Nobody. Yeah. Nobody knows.
Melissa
Could have been any of the other three kids or the two senior citizens.
Jeff
I think I even looked at Stacey, and I'm like, did he just crap himself? She's like, do not say a word because others around us don't know it's him. Keep the face.
Ashley
That's when you look at the other kid and give that look like, you know, as an adult, you know. You know, when you've. You know, when you've done, you know, past a little bit and you look at the other, you know, you look around like, who's doing that?
Melissa
Right?
Ashley
And it was you the whole time.
Katie
Come on.
Ashley
You know you've done it.
Melissa
Overly exaggerated. Who the hell did that?
Ashley
Oh, wow. What's that?
Jessica
You guys smell that?
Jeff
Jennifer was calling up to say, don't take down someone else's stuff from the overhead unless it's yours.
Katie
Yes, Yes. I would also say don't put your jacket up there. Put your jacket below the seat in front of you and allow somebody else to put their suitcase there.
Ashley
Agreed. Yeah. If you're taking up space.
Katie
Yeah. I mean, yeah.
Jeff
Oh, this is a good one here. This bugs me, too, man.
Ashley
That means you're about to curse, right?
Katie
Yeah, that one bugs me because I am, like, devout to trying to carry on instead of check stuff. So it drives me crazy when people put their little shopping bag up there. I'm like, I got a full suitcase. Put a shopping bag on your lap.
Jeff
Jasmine wanted to say, when you get up, don't use the seat in front of you for help. That one drives me nuts.
Ashley
Don't pull yourself up with my back.
Katie
Yes.
Ashley
And then they always catch some hair. You grabbed the city. I was catching my hair.
Melissa
Is it fair to. Is it fair to issue one for the pilots and flight attendants that we're not on a tour? I don't care what city we're over. I don't know.
Jeff
I like that.
Melissa
Oh, I hate that.
Ashley
It's distracting.
Melissa
I'M trying to sleep and I don't need to hear. And if you look out the right side of the plane, you see the Grand Canyon.
Ashley
I never see what they tell me to see. And it's always on the other side of the plane.
Melissa
Everybody on the left side of the plane. You've got nothing to look at. Losers.
Katie
Random sidebar. If you fly Delta, isn't that woman who does the instructional video at the beginning oddly robot?
Jeff
Like, she was getting so much press, I thought the whole thing was really sort of annoying.
Ashley
I mean, remember her?
Katie
The cheek? You can't. Oh, my God.
Jeff
Redhead with the cheekbones.
Katie
The redhead with the cheekbones.
Melissa
The. No smoking.
Katie
She's like a Stepford wife. Like, she's like, a little bit robot. Ish.
Ashley
You, too, will be part of the Delta family. Just wait a second.
Jeff
Shouldn't there be some consistency?
Katie
I'm like, you are a Scientologist.
Jeff
Get it?
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The bird show.
Melissa
So the pat. Well, not the past few nights, but a few nights. Over the past, like, 30 days, I've had a really kind of freaky dream experience. And I don't even. In the dream part. I don't know if this makes any sense, but I had a freaky nighttime experience. I don't think it's a dream, but I wake up and I'm convinced someone is standing over the bed looking at me. And it's to the point where, like, three out of the four times it's happened, I've actually leaned up or two, like, and I actually swing my arm trying to find, touch, whatever it is that's looking at me, like, to see if it's Jessica or.
Jeff
And you're unclear if you're dreaming this or if your eyes are actually open.
Melissa
I'm 99% sure I'm up.
Jeff
And there's something just hovering over you.
Melissa
There's something looking at me like, is it Jessica?
Jeff
Maybe. Like, oh, God, I can't believe I married this guy.
Melissa
She does that when I'm awake.
Katie
She leans over him going, stop snoring.
Melissa
But, like, I. It's. I can't recognize what it is. And then scary, and then couple that. Like, I had a really freaky night the night before. I told you guys about. It was really weird because as I was falling asleep. You know when you're in that really fun stage where you're half awake and
Jeff
half asleep and you're having all sorts of weird, bizarre dreams?
Melissa
Yeah. Like, I had a weird little thing that was filled with, like, demons.
Katie
Ew.
Melissa
It was freaky. But I didn't Wake myself up, like I was cool with it, but it was freaky.
Jeff
Didn't producer Tracy stay at your house one weekend and she swears that your house is haunted?
Melissa
Yeah, but it didn't all happen in my house, okay? It's happened at different places.
Jeff
So the ghost is following you?
Melissa
If it's a ghost, I don't know what it is.
Katie
Did you have this dream as a kid?
Melissa
Think so.
Katie
So you've had this.
Melissa
I never remember my dreams. That's why I don't think it's a dream. Ever. Never. If I remember a dream, it's a rare occasion.
Katie
Does it feel familiar enough that you think that you could have had this dream, like, more than over just the last month, or you think it's a new phenomenon?
Melissa
I would have to say it's new only because I. Yeah, I don't ever remember remembering my dreams.
Jeff
Why do you ask, Jen?
Katie
Because I was just talking to a friend yesterday or day before yesterday about recurring childhood dreams.
Jessica
Like.
Katie
And how there are just recurring dreams that you have from the time that
Ashley
you're a little kid.
Katie
And we were talking about the ones that freak us out and that sort of thing. And then I was telling him about this book, Eat, Pray, Love. You know, the one I've read 400 times.
Melissa
Yeah.
Katie
And there's this part when she's in Indonesia. You know the parts of the book where she goes to Italy? Anyway, she goes to Italy.
Jeff
Just because he watched that Traveling Pants movie doesn't mean that he's not reading all the chick flicks.
Katie
That's right.
Ashley
He's on Twilight right now, so he doesn't have to.
Jeff
Exactly.
Katie
I'm, like, skipped over Elizabeth. Well, anyway, so there's three sections of the book. One, she goes to Italy, then she goes to India, and then she goes to Indonesia. And in Indonesia, she seeks out this medicine man. And the medicine man tells her a sort of a Balinese tradition about what those bad dreams are about. And she specifically had the same dream as you. Somebody looking over her. And in Bali, they would say that it's one of your four brothers that's protecting you, so not to be scared of it.
Ashley
So there you go.
Jeff
I'll tell you what. I'll go to Bali searching for that dude for you and bring him back for you. If that's what I do, I'll write off the whole trip for four months.
Melissa
I gotta be honest with you. I was so excited when you said it was in a book. I'm like, I can't wait to hear what it is. And now I'm disappointed. That was dumb. Come up and make something else out.
Katie
I was trying to, like, really paraphrase it, like, and make it small because I know you guys would make fun of me, but it's a much longer, like, real tradition of these people. So what else do you need to hear?
Jeff
She's telling you to go to Bali, man, and work for the chick in the book.
Melissa
Yeah.
Ashley
He's an only kid, though. He didn't want siblings. He's four brothers.
Jeff
What?
Jessica
Brothers?
Melissa
You mean I have to share?
Ashley
I'm not sharing.
Katie
Funny that came up.
Jeff
Strickland, you have some advice for Jeff?
Kim
Hello.
Jeff
Yes, sir.
Caller
Yes,
Kim
I've heard that if you acknowledge it and while you're awake there and tell it to go away.
Melissa
Are you a Balinese medicine man, by any chance?
Jeff
Just tell it to go away, sis.
Melissa
Do I know what.
Jeff
Tell us to go away.
Melissa
I love that phrase. What do I now use? Medicine man. Do what now, Ashley, go ahead.
Jeff
You're on Q100.
Caller
Yeah, Jeff, I just wanted to tell you that I have the same exact thing, and my mother actually has it, too. It's a man that stands over and watches us. Except for I'm awake, but I can't move and I can't scream. And it's just the weirdest, most bizarre thing.
Jeff
Do you see something or you just, like feeling an energy?
Caller
I see something. I see it's a black. Or a man that has a black trench coat. And it's an older.
Melissa
Older man. Could it be just a neighbor?
Caller
I don't think so.
Katie
No.
Jessica
Jeff, what's your man wearing?
Melissa
Yeah, it's not like. It's just the trench coat.
Ashley
You sense it, but you don't see anything.
Melissa
Yeah, it's shadows and it's red and black.
Jessica
Really?
Melissa
Like, I can see colors.
Ashley
It's Georgia face paint on.
Katie
Get rid of it.
Jessica
Get it.
Melissa
Hey, Kim.
Jeff
You're part of the bird show. Good morning.
Kim
Hi. Good morning, you all.
Jeff
Hi.
Kim
Hi, Jeff. I know exactly what you're talking about. I used to live in Virginia. No matter where I was at, I've had that. No matter where I lived at, I've had that same exact feeling. There's a presence there. And a lot of times it feels like it's a bad presence. I don't know if you've. Do you feel like it's a bad. Like a bad sign that that person should not be there?
Melissa
Nah, it just feels, like, creepy. Like, really. Just like, I don't feel scared, really.
Jeff
Well, you're throwing punches at it, though. Didn't you say?
Melissa
No, I'm just reaching for it to find out if it's like there's really a person there.
Ashley
Mm.
Jessica
Well, what?
Kim
One of my classmates actually told me she was an older lady. She was like, you know, whenever that happens, Kim, just think about. Just think about good things. Think if you believe in Jesus or, you know, or whatever religion you believe, and think about positive things, that things will not hurt you. And eventually, like, after a while, they would just kind of. I would just focus my mind on good things that would kind of go away.
Ashley
Do you think that you feel like it's a bad thing only because it's like something. I guess you're trained to think if somebody's in my bedroom is a bad thing. You know what I'm saying? Like, it may not.
Jeff
I've never thought that.
Ashley
Yeah.
Melissa
Yeah. I don't feel like any panic or
Ashley
fear if somebody's in your bedroom, it's a good thing.
Katie
Somebody signing up to be there is a good thing.
Ashley
Even if he's a man in a black trench coat.
Jeff
Embrace it.
Melissa
You know what that lady said? I only like to call on God or Jesus if I need money or help. I don't like to.
Jeff
Or if my team's about to kick a field goal with a second and left.
Melissa
Yeah, I know.
Ashley
I always save the Oscar when I think about it.
Katie
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The episode centers on two main themes: 1) Hilarious (and relatable) debates over airplane etiquette prompted by the cast’s recent travel experiences, and 2) a candid, sometimes spooky, conversation about recurring nighttime “visitor” dreams and their significance, featuring listener call-ins and a dash of pop culture.
Use your indoor voice
"Rule number one: Use your indoor voice. Nobody needs to hear your whole conversation from the front of the plane." – Jessica (01:27)
Respect body language & personal space
"You need to learn to read the signs of the person next to you... If my earbuds are in, that means don’t chat." (02:28)
Armrest Wars & Seat Space
"The armrest always has to be down unless it’s mutually agreed upon. That’s rude." – Jeff (03:46)
Helping Elders and Parents
"It drives me crazy when I see a young man… not helping, like, a 70-something-year-old woman get her suitcase down." (04:41)
Deplaning Etiquette
"There’s a reason why the aisles go 1 through 30… Row one gets to go out before two…" (05:51)
Traveling with Children
"If you're traveling with children, you should be willing to Benadryl your child." (07:28)
"Just because I'm a woman, don't assume that I'm maternal..." (08:27)
Overhead Bin & Personal Items
"Don’t take down someone else’s stuff from the overhead unless it’s yours." (11:22)
"Don’t put your jacket up there. Put your jacket below the seat in front of you…" (11:28)
Seat Assaults
"When you get up, don’t use the seat in front of you for help. That one drives me nuts." (11:59)
"Don’t pull yourself up with my back. And they always catch some hair!" (12:04)
In-flight Announcements
"We’re not on a tour. I don’t care what city we’re over..." (12:12)
Melissa's Experience
"I wake up and I'm convinced someone is standing over the bed looking at me." – Melissa (13:12)
Recurring Childhood Dreams
"In Bali, they would say that it’s one of your four brothers that’s protecting you, so not to be scared of it." – Katie (16:18)
Listener Call-ins: Shared Experiences
"I have the same exact thing…and my mother actually has it too. It’s a man that stands over and watches us… I see…it’s a black…or a man that has a black trench coat." (17:32)
Dealing with Night Visitors
"I don’t feel scared, really… I’m just reaching for it to find out if there’s really a person there." (18:53)
On Loud Airplane Talkers:
"She just wanted everyone to hear her life story and how great of a marathon runner she was. She was just terrific." – Jessica (01:36)
On Reading Social Cues in-flight:
"If my ipod earbuds are in my ear, that means don’t chat." – Katie (02:28)
On Deplaning:
"If you’re in seven, you’re not allowed to skip up to four." – Jeff (06:04)
On Child Travelers:
"When one kid starts yelling on a plane… it’s contagious. Like, one of them hears, ‘ahh’, and the other one’s like, ‘Oh, I can do that!’" – Jeff (07:54)
On Maternal Stereotypes:
"Just because I’m a woman, don’t assume that I’m maternal…" – Ashley (08:27)
Crowd Favorite:
"That airport sucks my butt." – Melissa on Dallas airports (06:28)
On the Delta Safety Video:
"She’s like a Stepford wife. Like, she’s like a little bit robot. Ish." – Katie (12:55)
Night Visitor Comfort:
"In Bali, they would say that it’s one of your four brothers that’s protecting you, so not to be scared of it." – Katie (16:18)
This episode is an entertaining roller coaster, blending travel grievances, real-life hacks, and a dose of the supernatural. The Bert Show crew and their listeners break down the implicit (and explicit) rules of the road — or rather, the skies — while sharing the kinds of ghost stories that have you laughing as much as thinking. The combination of wit, honesty, and crowd participation makes for a lively listen that’s both ridiculously helpful and delightfully human.