Full Show PT 3: Monday, May 11 [Vault]

Summary

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The Bert Show – Full Show PT 3: Monday, May 11 [Vault]

Release Date: May 11, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode captures The Bert Show’s signature blend of pop culture commentary, listener interactions, and authentic discussion of personal and societal issues. The show revisits the explosive tabloid scandal involving Fergie, Josh Duhamel, and exotic dancer Nicole Forrester, analyzing how the story spiraled into national media. The hosts reflect on their unexpected role in the media frenzy and round out the episode with light-hearted listener segments, a comedic commercial critique, and a deep conversation about open parent-child dialogue on sensitive topics like sex, self-esteem, and communication.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The National Scandal: Fergie, Josh Duhamel, and Nicole Forrester

• Origins of the Scandal: The show’s exclusive, on-air interview with Nicole Forrester, the dancer who alleged an affair with Josh Duhamel, made headlines on major entertainment news outlets (Access Hollywood, Entertainment Tonight, Us Weekly, People).
• Jen Hobby’s “Stink Eye” Goes Viral: Listeners and the show crew react to Jen’s unintentional background expressions during the infamous interview. Social media and TV commentary pick up on her "stink eyes," making it its own highlight (01:14–02:17).
  • Quote: “The look on your face was clearly the highlight… I was just trying to get a whole bunch of random stuff done, but... the tweets started coming in: ‘Jen Hobby was the best part of that with her stink eyes’ which came up a lot.” — Jeff Dahl (01:46)
• Media Madness: The hosts express disbelief and dark humor at being at the epicenter of the gossip, with multiple TV news outlets crediting them—something unusual for a regional morning show.
  • Quote: “I’m surprised at how much credit...it’s not just a local radio station in Atlanta.” — Jen Hobby (06:40)
• Debating Nicole’s Credibility: The team discusses whether Nicole Forrester’s account is truthful, given her willingness to take money for interviews and tabloid coverage of a supposed polygraph test (04:51, 12:21). Divergent opinions are voiced:
  • “I just don’t believe any of it...I just think that it’s quite possible she could have made up the entire thing to get fame and money.” — Jen Hobby (15:20)
  • ”Four [hosts] do [believe her] and one doesn’t.” — Bert (15:12)
• Guest Insight with Billy Bush (Access Hollywood): Billy Bush weighs in on how tabloids operate, payment for stories and media ethics in celebrity journalism (17:33–19:23).
  • Quote: “So much money does change hands...TMZ pays...Entertainment Tonight pays...everybody pays because this stuff sells so well.” — Billy Bush (17:33)
• Listener Calls & Gossip Industry: Callers contribute, relating how the story is being echoed all over radio and TV, sometimes without proper credit to The Bert Show (13:34–14:02). A “voice disguised” caller claims Nicole Forrester is “crazy” and an unreliable source (25:01–26:31).
  • Quote: “This girl is crazy...she’s been in the industry a long time...she used to date an acquaintance of mine, and the stories would just blow your mind.” — Mike (25:08)
• Media Ethics & Public Perception: The hosts reflect on whether sensational stories are the best kind of publicity for them, wishing national attention came from something "happy" rather than “scuzzy, slimy” tabloid drama (10:34–10:53).
• Cultural Analysis: Discussion about how tabloid journalism and even mainstream media now blur together, with CNN and MSNBC covering the story (27:05–27:13).

Notable Timestamps

• 01:14–02:17: “Stink eye” goes viral, listeners and hosts react
• 04:51–07:00: Nicole Forrester’s detailed account, TV coverage
• 10:34–10:53: The team reflects on notoriety and tabloid culture
• 12:21–13:14: Bert recaps the story’s media explosion
• 15:12–15:20: Hosts take a vote: Do they believe Nicole’s story?
• 17:33–19:23: Billy Bush on tabloid economics and celebrity denials
• 25:01–26:31: “Mike” calls in, attacks Nicole’s credibility

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2. Listener Segment: The UGA-Florida Tailgate Voicemail Diary

• Series of Voicemails from Listener Chris: Chronicling his experience at the Georgia-Florida football game from early tailgating through post-game depression, presenting a comedic arc of enthusiasm to despair.
  • Quote: “He starts off with 26 letters in the alphabet, and by the end of the night, you’re down to four letters… It becomes like the Hawaiian alphabet where there’s like only vowels.” — Bert (29:45–29:49)
  • Quote: “Not a good game. Not a good game.” — Listener Chris (31:44)
• Hosts poke fun lovingly: Commentary highlights the journey from exuberant fan to “saddest voicemail ever” (31:27–31:51).

Notable Timestamps

• 28:04–31:51: Chris’s tailgate voicemails, with host reactions

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3. Viral Commercial Critique: “The Red House” & Coleman Liquidation

• Listening & Joking: The team listens to and jokes about memorable regional commercials like "The Red House" (where “black people and white people buy furniture”) and "Coleman Liquidation" ("I’m not gonna waste your time… They’re used. Some of them have stains. We cover that up.").
  • Quote: “Look at the sofa. It’s perfect for a black person or a white person.” — Jeff Dahl (33:10)
  • Quote: "A bouncer in Birmingham hit me in the face with a crescent wrench five times. And my wife’s boyfriend broke my jaw with a fence post. So if you don’t buy a trailer from me, it ain’t gonna hurt my feelings. So come on down...Or die. I don’t care.” — "Robert Lee" ad (34:28–34:53)
• Hosts declare “The Red House” an instant classic.

Notable Timestamps

• 32:08–34:53: Commercial playback and discussion

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4. Parenting & Openness: Talking About Sex and Self-Esteem

• Melissa Carter’s Approach: Melissa, joined by listener Allison, discusses having open communication about sex, STDs, self-esteem, and relationships with their children.
  • Quote: “That’s what your job, you know, to me as a parent is: If you do this, this is the consequence...” — Melissa Carter (35:38)
• Authentic Recording: Allison shares real recordings of her conversation with her 14-year-old daughter, displaying candor and age-appropriate honesty (36:10–36:59).
  • Quote: “Can you only get an STD from like having sex?” (36:18). “I don’t have genitals.” (36:40).
• Rules for Dating: Discussion on limits for daughters dating older boys, emphasizing emotional consequences over moral panic (37:04–38:23).
  • Quote: “If you’re a parent...letting your daughter date older...Nothing good is going to come of that, people.” — Melissa Carter (37:39)
• Audience Questions: Listeners call in seeking advice for initiating the ‘talk’ with younger children, handling masturbation, and fostering genuine openness (38:34–40:47).
  • Quote: “How do you start that open dialogue at such a young age, letting them know it’s okay to come to me without them thinking...?” — Caller Jennifer (38:53)
• Books & Sibling Support: Listener Michelle mentions resources like the American Girl website and the importance of siblings helping each other with navigating sex and safety (40:51–41:29).
• Personal Stories: Callers share stories ranging from purity pledges to Girl Scout leader-led sex ed, exposing a broad cultural spectrum in how families handle the topic (44:47–45:14).
• Takeaway: The resounding message is that honest, ongoing communication empowers teens to make safe, informed choices.
  • Quote: “As long as you leave the communication open, your kids will be better able to make appropriate decisions.” — Caller Allison (45:10)
  • Quote: “The number one thing...is to teach your kid to love themselves and not look outside themselves for that self-love.” — Melissa Carter (46:45)
  • Quote: “The self-esteem that she has, it almost makes me want to cry just thinking about it.” — Melissa Carter (48:28)

Notable Timestamps

• 35:00–46:00: Open sex talks, listener calls, resources & philosophies
• 46:45–48:28: Authentic Beauty initiative; self-esteem as prevention

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Notable Quotes

• On Going Viral:
  • “Stink eyes. That’s great. That’s a great name.” – Heather (02:17)
• On Tabloid Culture:
  • “I just wish we had gotten national publicity for something else.” – Jen Hobby (10:46)
• On Parenting Openly:
  • “I wish that for everybody. I mean, my kids are such good kids.” – Melissa Carter (43:27)
• On Media Ethics:
  • “So much money does change hands...everybody pays because this stuff sells so well.” – Billy Bush (17:33)
• On Self-Love:
  • “Teach your kid to love themselves and not look outside themselves for that self-love.” – Melissa Carter (46:45)

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Memorable Moments

• Jen Hobby’s “stink eye” unintentionally achieving meme status. (01:14–02:19)
• Billy Bush’s candid description of the gossip industry’s pay-for-play system. (17:33)
• The emotional sharp turn in Chris’ tailgate voicemails, from excitement to “Not a good game.” (31:44)
• Recording real mother-daughter sex talks on-air, blending humor and vulnerability. (36:10–36:59)
• Hosts’ unfiltered banter over quirky regional commercials. (32:08–34:53)

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Conclusion

This episode showcases the full spectrum of The Bert Show at its best: raw, irreverent humor; unpolished but honest handling of scandal; and a heartfelt, progressive take on parenting in the modern age. Whether you’re catching up on celebrity gossip fallout, seeking advice on real-life family challenges, or just in for the laughs, the cast keeps it real, candidly inviting listeners to step out of their lives and into the always-eventful world of The Bert Show.

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Transcript

[Melissa Carter]

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[Jen Hobby]

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[Jen Hobby]

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[Melissa Carter]

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[Jen Hobby]

Was she brave?

[Melissa Carter]

She was tired mostly. But she went to Carvana.com and found a great car at a great price. No secret treasure map required.

[Caller/Aura]

Did you have to fight a dragon?

[Jen Hobby]

Nope.

[Melissa Carter]

She bought it 100% online from her bed, actually.

[Jen Hobby]

Was it scary?

[Melissa Carter]

Honey, it was as unscary as car buying could be.

[Jen Hobby]

Did the car have a sunroof?

[Melissa Carter]

It did, actually.

[Jen Hobby]

Okay, good story.

[Nicole Forrester]

Car buying.

[Melissa Carter]

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[Narrator/Reporter]

The bird show.

[Jeff Dahl]

Hey, Aura. Welcome to the show.

[Heather]

Hi, how are you?

[Caller/Aura]

Hi.

[Jen Hobby]

How do you say your name?

[Caller/Aura]

Aura. Like the ghetto. R. Ara.

[Jen Hobby]

Ara.

[Caller/Aura]

Ara. Cool.

[Melissa Carter]

I like that.

[Jeff Dahl]

Good to talk to you. What can we do for you?

[Caller/Aura]

I just wanted to make a comment on seeing you guys talking about the stripper and Josh and all of that, and seeing Jen in the background with those stink eyes. It was freaking hilarious. I mean, what did I have? See it burn into that lady's skull? Like, lady, you are crazy. I don't believe you. I'm ready to tot you out of this chair. Oh, my gosh. It was just too funny.

[Jen Hobby]

I haven't seen any of it yet. So, yeah, I was out last night and missed all the coverage, but was definitely getting some text messages about it.

[Jeff Dahl]

Well, the look on your face was clearly the highlight of most people because I was in my office at the house all day yesterday, so I didn't watch any of the coverage. I was just trying to get a whole bunch of random stuff done. But I had my Twitter screen open, and when they started running them, the tweets started coming out like, hey, just saw Q100 on whatever. And I just blah, blah, blah. And then they started coming in. Jen Hobby was the best part of that with her stink eyes, which came up a lot.

[Heather]

Stink eyes. That's great. That's a great name.

[Jeff Dahl]

I like that phrase.

[Jen Hobby]

Stink eyes. Okay.

[Heather]

And Rhett had no idea, our videographer, how priceless a shot he was getting, because it was just the best angle in the studio to get our guest. And Jen happened to be behind her in the shot, scowling apparently the whole time.

[Melissa Carter]

Rhett did a great job on that video.

[Jen Hobby]

He did.

[Heather]

Good for him.

[Jeff Dahl]

Hey, Heather, welcome to the show.

[Caller/Aura]

Good morning.

[Heather]

Good morning.

[Caller/Aura]

Hey, I was calling to let you guys know that I was watching the Daily 10 on E. Last night and you guys were number 10.

[Heather]

Oh, nice.

[Caller/Aura]

Yeah, they showed, you know, they were talking about obviously like the Nicole Sullivan scandal and all that stuff. And they were like, yeah, she was on the Birch show on Q100 in Atlanta. And then it showed the video and you know, it showed Jen and Jeff and Bert and up in the left hand corner it said bert show slash Q100 Atlanta.

[Jeff Dahl]

That's awesome.

[Melissa Carter]

Yeah.

[Caller/Aura]

So they saved you guys the last. You were the best.

[Jeff Dahl]

Oh, 10 is bad. 10 is the best.

[Caller/Aura]

Well, I don't know. Oh, I'm just trying to feel better

[Jeff Dahl]

when question too many $. So just go with it. Yesterday afternoon or morning later in the show, rather, we talked to Billy Bush who with Access Hollywood, and he came on the show and talked to us for a while and got some details from us and also said that we should watch Access Hollywood tomorrow night because they are definitely running with the story and would be including some of the world famous Jen Hobby stink eye video footage in that story. So this is from Access Hollywood last

[Melissa Carter]

night and now to Billy for Fergie

[Bert]

and Josh versus the stripper, it's an exotic dancer.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Nancy, thank you. Fergie and husband Josh Duhamel are a cover couple for all the wrong reasons, embroiled in a cheating scandal. And today we have the southern dancer taking center stage.

[Nicole Forrester]

We did hook up. We had lots of sex and we had a really, really good time. And then the next morning when I left, you know, he kissed me on my cheek. Really sweet guy.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Nicole Forester lets loose on Q100's the Burt show in Atlanta on how her alleged infamous affair with Josh Duhamel went down. According to her, beginning with the night Josh hung out at the Tattletale Gentlemen's club where she's an exotic dancer stripper.

[Nicole Forrester]

He came in and I went and immediately sat with him because I'm a very aggressive, you know, person when I'm trying to make my money. I sat down with him and he was like, you're hot. I was like, you're absolutely gorgeous.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Nicole told Access that she never wanted to go public with her alleged affair with Josh, but that the National Enquirer came calling, according to her Josh bragged about their tryst while working on Set of Life as We Know it in Atlanta.

[Nicole Forrester]

He had actually said that he had banged a hot blonde stripper at Tattletales.

[Bert]

And he mentioned Tattletales.

[Nicole Forrester]

Yeah, yeah. How else would they know where I was at?

[Bert]

Right. You know, some are gonna say, I bet you call.

[Nicole Forrester]

I swear to God, on the souls of my children.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Today, Radar Online revealed what they claim is a copy of a polygraph test that Nicole took which says that Nicole was non deceptive, truthful when answering the question, did you have intercourse with Josh? Important to note, Nicole tells us she has hired an agent and continues to take money for interviews. Josh Duhamel's camp has told Access that he categorically denies having sex with Nicole and that the story is, quote, ridiculous and hurtful.

[Jeff Dahl]

I want to categorically deny something. I've denied things, but categorically is pretty impressive. Extra also covered our exclusive interview with Nicole Forrester.

[Bert]

Okay, I'm in the newsroom right now, and there's a whole new twist on this Josh Duhamel Fergie stripper thing.

[Jeff Dahl]

Just Mario Lopez.

[Jen Hobby]

It's unbelievable.

[Nicole Forrester]

Josh and Fergie presenting a united front having dinner in Atlanta.

[Caller Chris]

Well, what's the big deal with that?

[Nicole Forrester]

Well, the big deal is they chose the restaurant right next to the hotel where the stripper Nicole Forester says the

[Jen Hobby]

whole thing went down.

[Nicole Forrester]

Fergie apparently even asked to sit in the middle of the restaurant where all the action is.

[Melissa Carter]

I mean, I guess you wanted everyone

[Nicole Forrester]

to see him together. And I do have an interesting piece of tape. The stripper talking for the first time on the Burt Show, Q100 in Atlanta. He came in, and I went and immediately sat with him because I'm a very aggressive, you know, person when I'm trying to make my money. He was like, you're hot. I was like, you're absolutely gorgeous. Of course, Josh's people are denying the entire scandal, saying that this was all about one thing. A woman getting paid by the tabloids.

[Jeff Dahl]

That was. It's Mario Lopez, right?

[Jen Hobby]

I think so. It sounded like it.

[Heather]

I'm just. I'm shocked that we. I mean, work show on Q100 in Atlanta.

[Jen Hobby]

I know. I'm surprised at how much credit.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jen Hobby]

It's not just a local radio station in Atlanta.

[Melissa Carter]

Yeah.

[Heather]

Which is usually what they say.

[Jeff Dahl]

Yeah. We worked that out in advance this time.

[Jen Hobby]

Oh, really?

[Jeff Dahl]

Oh, yes.

[Jen Hobby]

Good for you.

[Jeff Dahl]

We've learned that lesson. A local radio station somewhere in the Southeast.

[Heather]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dahl]

A Northern Hemisphere radio station.

[Jen Hobby]

You know, when they first were talking about this story on E. I guess when, when it first broke last week, before she came in studio with us, they were saying it was a stripper in New Jersey.

[Caller Chris]

Really?

[Jen Hobby]

Oh really, like on the Daily 10 or the, you know, whatever.

[Jeff Dahl]

I could see that.

[Jen Hobby]

So don't insult New Jersey like that.

[Jeff Dahl]

The.

[Heather]

Oh, they have marketing people that work at stink events. And then I'm gonna call you DJ Stink Guy from now on.

[Jeff Dahl]

In Entertainment Tonight, I don't think credited us like verbally. I don't think they said it, but. And I haven't seen the Entertainment Tonight coverage, but apparently our logo is very prominent in the screen. And then along the bottom it says The Bird Show. Q100 Atlanta. But this is Entertainment Tonight. Mary Hart talked about Mary Hart, people.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

Handsome Hollywood actor Josh Duhamel versus the stripper. Did he cheat on his wife Fergie? The exotic dancers take it to the airwaves to tell her very sordid story. But is she telling the truth about the Transformers star?

[Nicole Forrester]

I sat down with him and he was like, you're hot. I was like, you're absolutely gorgeous.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

She is 34 year old mother of two, some say is out to disgrace Transformers star Josh Duhamel, who is happily married to pop star Fergie. Now Radar Online has posted this radio interview of exotic dancer Nicole Forrester. Seizing her 15 minutes, he referred to

[Nicole Forrester]

himself as JD we had. Which of course I didn't know what JD stood for.

[Jeff Dahl]

Jeff Dahl.

[Nicole Forrester]

I guess it was Josh Duhamel. Well, anyway, so we had a couple of shots and I gave him a dance.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

Here is the timeline. Nicole claims they met October 2nd at Tattletales, a strip bar in Atlanta where Josh was shooting the movie Life as We Know It.

[Nicole Forrester]

When he was leaving, he stayed for about 45 minutes to an hour. When he was leaving, he asked for my number. I was like, yeah, absolutely.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

Then she says a week later, on October 9, they hooked up at this St. Regis hotel in Atlanta.

[Nicole Forrester]

So anyway, we did hook up. We had lots of sex and we had a really, really good time.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

According to Nicole, Josh didn't reveal his real name until that night after, like

[Nicole Forrester]

being there like a couple hours. Okay, I'm gonna give you my first name, Josh. And then a few more hours he gave me D'. Mel. So I mean, it took him a little while to just kind of warm up to me to give me that information.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

The morning after the alleged tryst, Nicole says Josh was a gentleman, making sure she returned home safe.

[Nicole Forrester]

He kissed me on my cheek. Really sweet guy. And Then he actually called because I had to get a cab the next morning. Guess somebody actually had dropped me off because I was drunk.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

Wife. Fergie was reportedly on the road with the black eyed peasant. People magazine on Stan's Friday has her reaction to the stunning rumors of an affair.

[Melissa Carter]

A friend of Fergie says that, of course, the rumors of cheating hurt her and she's disappointed by them. Fergie's rep issued a statement saying that the allegations are nonsense.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

RadarOnline.com claims Nicole reportedly passed a lie detector test. But is she telling the truth?

[Jen Hobby]

Wow, that was a long piece. That's a really long piece. I couldn't believe I came back.

[Jeff Dahl]

So we're going to have to talk about, like, how are we gonna handle people now? Like, do we talk to just regular listeners?

[Caller Chris]

How much are you charging for your autograph, Jeff?

[Jeff Dahl]

Do we do appearances? Do we go in public?

[Jen Hobby]

Well, absolutely.

[Heather]

You don't talk to people and you don't go into public. You already act that way, so why would this be any different?

[Mike]

Oh, hi, kettle.

[Jeff Dahl]

So also on the COVID of US Weekly and also on the COVID of People magazine. So we talked about this for a couple minutes yesterday. It's a sordid thing to get credit for.

[Jen Hobby]

It's a scuzzy, slimy thing.

[Jeff Dahl]

But it's. I mean, that's what we do. I mean, the Lindsay Lohan, Michael Lohan stuff is sword and slimy. But you know what? If one of them were in town and wanted to come in and talk, we'd have to talk about it.

[Jen Hobby]

I just wish we had gotten national publicity for something else. You know what I mean?

[Jeff Dahl]

Right.

[Jen Hobby]

Like something happy.

[Heather]

Yeah.

[Jen Hobby]

I mean, remember several years ago when Us Weekly covered the Nick Lachey interview that we had? And Nick Lachey was in the studio, and this is after he and Jessica Simpson had divorced. But he said the nicest things about her. He was like, I am still in love with, or I still love Jessica. Not in love, but he said, I still love Jessica and all these things. Well, and then, you know, Melissa Carter's headphone and head was like, on the COVID and there was, like, this whole big story, and it was like a whole big thing. And it was like, it was a great way to get national attention because it was Nick Lachey saying that he still loved Jessica. So. But people that I was, like, super proud of, and I think I still have the copies of that and all this. I think this thing is, like, bleh.

[Heather]

Well, I think it's also a mystery for a lot of People. Because there's still not, you know, people are debating whether she's lying or not. So I think, you know, that's probably why people. People are so fascinated by this. And they love that couple, Josh Duhamel and Fergie.

[Bert]

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[Jen Hobby]

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[Bert]

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[Jen Hobby]

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[Bert]

Definitely a Verbocare thing.

[Jen Hobby]

If my teenager starts calling me Leslie

[Bert]

instead of mom, that's a family thing.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

Leslie.

[Jen Hobby]

That makes sense.

[Melissa Carter]

Sorry.

[Bert]

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[Caller Chris]

The Bird show previously on the Birch Show.

[Nicole Forrester]

We did hook up. We had lots of sex and we had a really, really good time. And then the next morning when I left, you know, he kissed me on my cheek. Really sweet guy. And then he actually called because I had to get a cab the next morning because somebody actually had dropped me off because I was drunk.

[Bert]

And this is at the St. Regis at this point.

[Nicole Forrester]

At the Saint Regis. Yeah. And he actually had called my friend that had dropped me off. Cause my phone was dying. And then that's when he had, you know, called me or I had called him back or something like that, you know, just to let him know that I was okay.

[Bert]

That is Nicole Forrester, the dancer at Tattletales detailing for us. What she says was a pretty fun. I think she said real fun. Real fun night with Josh Duhamel. One night stand at the St. Regis Hotel.

[Heather]

She's a liar.

[Jen Hobby]

You know why?

[Caller/Aura]

It's real fun.

[Bert]

I didn't hear that.

[Jen Hobby]

She's a liar. Yeah, real time. She's going to be real rich.

[Bert]

I don't know that she is. I don't know where she's going to make all this cash. But it was a. It exploded on the tabloid world yesterday. I mean, you can't go to People magazine. You go to Us Weekly in the legitimate news world. Cnn. MSNBC had the story yesterday also, so it kind of blew up. Good morning, Katie. You're on Q100.

[Caller/Aura]

Hi, Burcho.

[Caller Chris]

Hey, Kay.

[Caller/Aura]

How are you doing?

[Bert]

Great. How are you?

[Caller/Aura]

Good, good. I just called because I travel a lot throughout the Southeast and I'm in Charlotte right now driving. And they were playing clips from your interview. With that stripper who claims she slept with Joshua. They were playing clips of it on their radio station in Charlotte.

[Bert]

Oh, that's cool.

[Caller/Aura]

I mean, I thought it was so funny. You guys are all over the place.

[Bert]

Yeah. This became a.

[Jeff Dahl]

Were they crediting us? They.

[Caller/Aura]

It was. It was just like a short clip right before they went to a song. So it was almost like they were playing it, like, as a joke. They didn't. I don't know if they played the whole interview at another time or what.

[Bert]

So she doesn't know.

[Caller Chris]

Yeah.

[Bert]

Yeah. It became a. This was a bomb in the tabloid world yesterday. And here is Billy Bush from Access Hollywood. Hey, Billy.

[Caller Chris]

Bert.

[Bert]

Billy.

[Caller Chris]

What's up, my man?

[Bert]

How you doing, dude?

[Caller Chris]

This is the action in the strip club.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Serious, man.

[Caller Chris]

What's going on with the Atlanta strip club? It's been a long time since the bushy set foot in there.

[Bert]

Yeah. Probably a place you want to stay away from, dude.

[Caller Chris]

What was it, the gold club?

[Bert]

No, man, that place is. That's way old school. You haven't been in a strip club in Atlanta since the gold club?

[Caller Chris]

Since I got married, brother. I'm not stupid.

[Jen Hobby]

It's funny.

[Bert]

Well, that would have been smart for Josh Duhamel, man, because he's in it deep right now, dude.

[Caller Chris]

Well, you know, what did you guys. I'm interested in. This is a. Interesting interview, and thank you. Guys. Sent it over to us last night because we want to use it on Access Hollywood. Do you believe her?

[Bert]

Well, four do and one doesn't.

[Jen Hobby]

I believe bits and pieces of it. I definitely think she scammed him.

[Bert]

Jen doesn't believe any of it. Tell him why, Jim.

[Jen Hobby]

I just don't believe any of it. I think with that level of celebrity and that potential money, that anything can be sort of created and blown way out of proportion. And in this tabloid world that we live in that, you know, a lot of these stories can sort of, like, you know, take off on their own. And I just. I just think that it's quite possible that she could have made up the entire thing to get fame and money. And I think that. I think that although there could be there, you know, could be parts of her story that are true, I haven't seen any proof that proves that. So until I see some proof, I don't change my mind. I don't believe her at all.

[Caller Chris]

She's saying that she met him in the strip club.

[Bert]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dahl]

And they tricked.

[Caller Chris]

He's an idiot for going in. I mean, there's documentation. I'm sure if he went In.

[Bert]

Well, I don't know how stupid that is. I mean, married guys go to strip club.

[Caller Chris]

A married guy going into a strip club. When you're a giant celebrity, I mean, you're asking for trouble. I'm sure a married guy can go in and have a couple of drinks with friends and have fun. But you're married, you're asking for the problem. Would you.

[Jeff Dahl]

I mean, you obviously never been in.

[Caller Chris]

I don't go in them at all.

[Jeff Dahl]

No, but with your, you know, you deal with this stuff on a daily basis. All this tabloidy stuff. Is it fair to say that every story starts with a grain of some truth?

[Caller Chris]

Hmm, interesting. No, I think ones that have that make it to the COVID of People magazine. You know, US magazine did a, you know, I know they did a big thing on it, but People magazine usually reserves. Doesn't usually strike in, in this kind of territory unless there's some kind of, you know, fire where there's smoke, you know what I'm saying? That kind of raised my. When I saw People magazine putting it on their cover, I thought, wow, there might be something to it. But I don't believe, and personally I can't believe that the story is true. And so much money does change hands. I mean, Inquirer, yes, they pay a lot, but everybody, there's so many. Entertainment Tonight pays, Insider pays, everybody. TMZ pays, they've got people at courthouse. Everybody pays because this stuff sells so well.

[Bert]

Do you guys pay Access Hollywood?

[Caller Chris]

No, we're just too cheap. You know, I really wondered, I asked my executive producer, I said, are you really like taking a hard line here and being. Or is it because you're just too cheap and NBC has no money? You know, bushy, why do you have to ask these questions? I said, you know, if they gave it to you for a really cheap price, would you take it? He's like, uh, the thing is we have to follow NBC News guidelines and same as Brian Williams, actually. It's crazy.

[Bert]

Well, if we're, if we're trying to figure out if this is legitimate or not. Let me ask you this question then. If, I mean this is a pretty extraordinary story and if it wasn't true, wouldn't Josh Duhamel put out some kind of cease and desist on this Nicole Forrester or threaten a lawsuit or do something legal where she can't talk about it anymore? I mean, cuz this would be pure slander.

[Caller Chris]

Yeah, if I'm. And she says she has texts, right?

[Bert]

Yeah, she's very confident about that.

[Caller Chris]

She has the text messages. Well, that's a problem. We. I mean, he put out the statement, and I've got the statement in front of me, right. He says the story is completely ridiculous and hurtful. It's unfortunate that we have to respond to a story that was created because money was exchanged between the tabloid and this woman. Now, he never says in there if there was, you know, if there was any sex or anything between them. So the statement doesn't. Doesn't really answer anything. So our. The head of our news department called his publicist and had a conversation. She's like, look, I'm just telling you what Josh told me. Categorically denying he had sex with Nicole Forrester. Does that mean something? Maybe just shy. I don't. I mean, still, he's not. He's not saying everything across the board. You know what I mean?

[Bert]

Yeah. The only thing that can't be proven, really.

[Caller Chris]

And you're right, Bert. If someone said that about me in my 12 year marriage with my kids and what the other kids are gonna be saying in school and stuff, you're right. If someone said that about me and it was categorically, completely false, I would crush them. Full Guns of Navarone and let people, you know, that would send the message, I think, to everyone that, whoa, okay, he didn't do it.

[Bert]

Yeah, you would do everything you could to clear your name. The only thing that can't be proven, really, is exactly what happened in the room because. And there's security cameras everywhere now. So if you want to go to the St. Regis and check those, you want to go to Tattletales, I'm sure you can detail the entire night. Except really, what happened in that suite.

[Caller Chris]

Well, you know what? She hasn't shared the text yet. She'll be selling them, I'm sure if she has them with, the highest bidder will come forth and she will. And Nicole will sell them, and then everybody will see them and she'll be vindicated. And the quicker, you know, people want to see the text really quickly, all they have to do is call her a liar. Loudly, you know, a few times.

[Bert]

How much could she theoretically get for those texts? If they. If it's concrete proof that there was some craziness going on in that hotel room. And she could show you that. How much can she get for those?

[Caller Chris]

I'm thinking anywhere between 20,050.

[Jeff Dahl]

Wow.

[Caller/Aura]

Whoa.

[Caller Chris]

She could get 50 grand for those? Yeah.

[Bert]

You think?

[Caller Chris]

I mean, think about, you know, recently. What? Oh, you know Michael Lohan? Michael Lohan. He was doing A deal with the insider to sell the. The phone calls for, you know, one three voicemails of Dina Lohan each for ten grand.

[Bert]

Is that right?

[Caller Chris]

You know, per voicemail, grand each. That's 30 for three of them. If she's got texts. Josh Duhamel, you know, this is. These are from Michael Owen. You know, maybe between 20 and 50.

[Jeff Dahl]

I saw access last night, Access Hollywood last night. And am I. Was I mistaken or were you defending Michael Lohan?

[Caller Chris]

Well, I'm not defending Michael. Michael Lohan has definitely got a checkered past as a father. And I said that, and I interviewed him where I've said, michael, you have failed in major ways. You've been in, you know, rehab and jail and all at all these times when your kids needed you. And he has admitted that. But at the same time, his daughter is. I've listened to the voicemails. He's come into our office, and he's played them. I've sat there, listened to Dina Lohan say, we gotta do something, Michael. We gotta do something. Our daughter's in trouble. She's. She's. She's following the path of Heath Ledger. She's dating Heath Ledger. Nobody knows it before Heath Ledger passed away. She's gonna follow the same path, the same. If we don't do something, then the next voicemail. And these are September 2009. These are just. These aren't what Lindsey tried to say on Twitter last night from 2007. These are just a couple months ago. She said, oh, you know, Michael, we gotta do something. She's drinking again. She's drinking again in the. Mrs. Dina Lohan, the mom as well. So Michael says to me, billy, I've tried for years to get Dina to come with me, and let's do this privately. Let's do. Let's go see Lindsey together. Let me go. Let me go. And he plays these voicemails between him and, you know, that back it up between him and Dina and her going, no, Michael, you don't need to do that. And him saying, let me do it. Now, the guy has been a derelict in his life. And I tell him, but one thing is for sure, he's been sober for four and a half years. I think he's walked the walk. So my point is, he's more right than he is wrong. But he's plenty wrong in many aspects of his life.

[Bert]

I don't know how they will ever. She will ever trust him ever again. You know, even at the end of the day, even if he's right. Right. That she's in trouble and she does need help. Even at the end of the day, if he's right, she'll never trust him with anything ever again.

[Caller Chris]

I don't know how she can trust anyone. I mean, remember Lindsay Lohan moved out to Los Angeles at 17 years old. She had a 25 year old personal assistant as her chaperone. I mean, no, neither parent was here. To me, I think they both have just failed and, you know, let the money train kind of take over. I don't. When you listen to these voicemails, this girl, there are ones where Lindsay is so hysterical and lost and out of it. It's really, really sad. And the kid's lost now. I mean, you don't see it like two o' clock in the morning. She'll get on Twitter. If you follow her on Twitter, it's like usually between 2 and 4am or something. And then these. Samantha, why don't you answer your phone, you bitch? You know, and things like, excuse me. And these lost, you know, message. The kid has no anchor in her life and she's definitely got a problem. Her addiction is definitely, I mean, is in full force.

[Jen Hobby]

Do you think that she will die young?

[Caller Chris]

I'm really afraid of it. I don't want to say I think so. I mean, I hate, you know, because plenty of people in Hollywood, let's be honest, have, you know, survived and have made it to the other side. There's, you know, many high profiles that haven't, but also more that have. And I think that there's, you know, definitely hope. It's just someone's got, you know, someone's got to get through to her. But she's certainly at high risk, no question. Emotionally unstable, you know what I'm saying? The addiction is one thing, but then the emotional instability and the fact that there is no anchor in her life that sort of adds to it.

[Bert]

All right, Bushy, good talking to you, man.

[Caller Chris]

The Bird show with the Nicole tapes. Thanks for sending them over. We're going to have them for access this evening.

[Jeff Dahl]

Absolutely.

[Caller Chris]

And don't forget that full credit, Billy

[Bert]

bush is on Q100 also 10 o' clock Monday through Friday. And don't forget about the countdown as well. All right, Bushy, we'll talk to you soon, man.

[Caller Chris]

Thanks, guys. Take care.

[Heather]

All right, you too.

[Caller Chris]

Bye.

[Bert]

I like a man that refers to himself as Bushy.

[Caller Chris]

Bushy.

[Jen Hobby]

Bushy doesn't go to strip clubs.

[Bert]

Here is Mike on the voice disguiser. Says he has some scoop here on, on Nicole. Hey, Mike.

[Mike]

All right, my God. Listen, when. When I. When I heard the end of the story and. And the name. When. When I heard her voice, and then you put the voice with the name, I almost fell out of my chair.

[Bert]

Why?

[Mike]

This girl is crazy, bro. Like, she's been in the industry for a long time. You can see that from club to club to club. And, you know, it takes a lot to get let go from a strip club. I'm sure. So this girl is crazy. Now, I don't have proof for, you know, whether she did or whether she didn't, but when you're in the industry that long a time, there's things that probably the majority of girls go through. And what I mean by that, you know, mentally, you know, whether they're. They're taking things besides alcohol or whatever, they can become delusional. I'm telling you, man, like, she. She used to date an acquaintance of mine, and the stories, man, would just blow your mind.

[Bert]

Like, what?

[Mike]

Yeah, this crazy stuff, bro, I. I really don't want to go into that. But, you know, I'm telling you, when I heard that voice with the name, I'm telling you, I saw it in my chair.

[Bert]

So you're saying that just based on what you know of her, like, she's definitely not a credible source.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dahl]

No way, bro.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dahl]

Fell out of my chair.

[Mike]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Heather]

I want another story, though.

[Bert]

I know you're on the Voice.

[Heather]

These guys are.

[Melissa Carter]

I know.

[Mike]

You know, and the money thing is just, you know, people would do crazy stuff for money, especially that kind of money.

[Bert]

If you're talking about $50,000, like Billy Bush said, who knows?

[Mike]

I could do some crazy stuff for 50 grand.

[Bert]

All right, Mike, thanks for the call, man. Appreciate it.

[Mike]

Thank you.

[Bert]

All right, talk to you later.

[Heather]

Anytime somebody starts off their conversation with my God, then you know they're serious.

[Melissa Carter]

It's gonna be serious.

[Jeff Dahl]

That's what my mom used to say when I would come in after, like, playing in a pile of mud. Oh, my God.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

Look at you.

[Jeff Dahl]

My God. What are we gonna do with you? My God.

[Bert]

Either way, the story is really. It's all over the place now. Like Billy Bush said, It's on the COVID of People magazine this week. And legitimate places like CNN and msnbc. I guess this is what sells now, you know?

[Jeff Dahl]

What do you mean, legitimate places? After Us Weekly and People and stuff, they're legitimate.

[Bert]

You can't put that in the same category as CNN and MSNBC nowadays.

[Heather]

You can.

[Bert]

Yeah, well, that's too bad.

[Jeff Dahl]

You can debate that.

[Narrator/Reporter]

You're on the burt Show. This is the Burt show.

[Bert]

All right. These are from Chris. Remember we talked to Chris on Thursday and we were looking for a.

[Jeff Dahl]

Speaking of fuzzy, we were looking for

[Bert]

a voicemail reporter, somebody to go to Jacksonville for the Georgia Florida game and just send us voicemails from time to time as the game went on or as your pre game went on and then the game and then maybe afterwards.

[Heather]

Oh, Georgia fan on Saturday. I mean, because Saturday, Florida. I mean, I'm sorry, Katie, but yeah, Florida started off strong and never let up. They were fast, you know, bad.

[Bert]

It's painful.

[Heather]

Beautiful. So I'm curious if this reporting is going to have any positive, anything in it at all, because GJ never really got a hold of Florida.

[Caller/Aura]

Sent October 31st at 9:48am Message one, morning bird show.

[Caller Chris]

This is Chris from Jacksonville, Florida. Tailgate set up. I'm not going to count the first drink for breakfast, so first drink starts now.

[Bert]

All right, that's our starting point.

[Jen Hobby]

Sounds very together.

[Jeff Dahl]

What's the time on that one again?

[Heather]

9:38.

[Jeff Dahl]

Okay, perfect.

[Caller/Aura]

Sent October 31st at 11:59am

[Caller Chris]

it is fun from Jacksonville. A few more and we're good to go. Still tailgating, waiting to go in the stadium. T minus what? It's noon. So T minus the more Georgia fans just pulled up. We got a bullhorn and. About two hours until we head up to the stadium. See ya.

[Bert]

It was a 3:30 kickoff, right? Yeah. And he started at 9:30 or so.

[Heather]

Okay, tell a little difference there.

[Mike]

Sent October 31st at 1:40pm

[Caller Chris]

we are heading to the game and I must say I've completed my task and I am totally up.

[Bert]

See, he starts. He's like me. You start losing letters as the night goes on. And he lost his Ls. Did you hear that in the middle words?

[Melissa Carter]

Yes.

[Bert]

It starts off with 26 letters in the Alphabet and then by the end of the night, you're down to four letters.

[Jeff Dahl]

It becomes like the Hawaiian Alphabet where

[Jen Hobby]

there's like only vowels.

[Bert]

All vowels.

[Caller/Aura]

Sent October 31st at 2pm

[Caller Chris]

we are walking now to the stadium. Yeah, we need to bleep that out.

[Bert]

Okay.

[Melissa Carter]

Whoa.

[Jen Hobby]

The girl in the background is the worst. When you start singing, that's always a good sign.

[Jeff Dahl]

Background girls are always fun.

[Bert]

2 left.

[Caller/Aura]

Sent October 31st at 4:55pm halftime.

[Caller Chris]

It is Christ in Jacksonville. 3 minutes of halftime and we're out of beverages. And it's a dry stadium, so we're pretty much screwed. Anyway, we'll call you for another hour. Bye.

[Bert]

Coming down.

[Jen Hobby]

Definitely coming down.

[Bert]

I have been here, too. It's so depressing because I've taken flasks in the stadium. And when you hit that last sip and it's just halftime and you've got. You're looking at the clock, you really start weighing your options. Do I really want to watch the second half's over? Do I really want to come down? Do I really want to be hungover at the end of this game? Or should I just leave right now? This is game over.

[Caller/Aura]

Fent. October 31st at 7:30pm 7:30, in the car.

[Caller Chris]

Not a good game. That's it.

[Jeff Dahl]

I don't even care about college football and I'm depressed for.

[Melissa Carter]

That was the saddest voicemail ever.

[Jen Hobby]

Trust me.

[Jeff Dahl]

Play that last one again. I'm in the car.

[Caller/Aura]

October 31st at 7:30pm first show.

[Caller Chris]

7:30, in the car. Not a good game. Not a good game.

[Jeff Dahl]

He said it twice.

[Caller Chris]

The double.

[Bert]

Not a good game.

[Melissa Carter]

Oh, he needs a hug.

[Bert]

Let's remember him in happier times.

[Mike]

Sent Oct. 31 at 1:40pm Bird Show.

[Narrator/Reporter]

This is the Birch Show.

[Bert]

This is the commercial that we played for the Red House couple.

[Caller Chris]

Can't we all just get along at the Red House? Furniture?

[Jeff Dahl]

We can at the Red House.

[Caller Chris]

I'm Richard, AKA Big Head. I work at the Red House and I'm black. I like pumping iron and pumping furniture into people's homes. I'm Johnny, AKA Teen Gage. I work at the Red House and I'm white. I like deer hunting, bass fishing, and extending credit to all people at the Red House. I'm black and I love the Red House.

[Jeff Dahl]

I'm white and I love the Red House.

[Caller/Aura]

I'm a black woman and I love the Red House.

[Jeff Dahl]

I am white and the Red House is for me.

[Caller Chris]

That's the Red House.

[Jen Hobby]

It's kind of catchy.

[Bert]

It does get stuck in your head.

[Melissa Carter]

It does.

[Jeff Dahl]

Look at the sofa. It's perfect for a black person or a white person.

[Caller Chris]

This mattress is perfect for a white person or a black person at the

[Jen Hobby]

Red House, where black people and white people buy furniture.

[Jeff Dahl]

And Hispanic people too.

[Caller Chris]

Small people.

[Bert]

So that was the Red House commercial.

[Jen Hobby]

I know.

[Caller/Aura]

They forgot Asians.

[Bert]

So they've come out with a new commercial. They have themselves a new client. It's not nearly as good as the Red House commercial. That's a tough one to beat.

[Jen Hobby]

That is a classic.

[Bert]

But they are trying to. They're definitely going the honest route on this. Okay.

[Caller Chris]

Hi, I'm Robert Lee. I own Coleman Liquidation. I sell mobile homes. I'm not gonna waste your time I'm gonna tell it just like it is. These are mobile homes, not mansions. They come in two pieces if that's what you're looking for. That's what I got. They're used. Some of them have stains. We cover that up. She decorates them, she sells them. These guys help me move them. Wow.

[Heather]

What?

[Caller Chris]

A bouncer in Birmingham hit me in the face with a crescent wrench five times. And my wife's boyfriend broke my jaw with a fence post. So if you don't buy a trailer for me, it ain't gonna hurt my feelings. So come on down to Coleman liquidation and get yourself a home. Or die. I don't care.

[Narrator/Reporter]

This is the Bird show. This is the Bird Show.

[Bert]

Birch show listener Allison here has very open conversations with her 14 year old daughter and her sons, also about sex. They just let it all hang out, man. And it's pretty interesting to hear, at least for me as a dad, because as I said before, I really don't have any blueprint in this area at all. My mom never talked to me about it. My dad never talked to me about it. I'm still in a bit of a panic even before Hayden comes home and asks me about it. So this has all been great stuff for me to hear, totally great stuff.

[Jen Hobby]

Do you feel like you'll be more open with him about it?

[Bert]

Alison and I were just talking about this. She said boys are so different than girls are. But I mean, the openness, I think remains the same, right?

[Melissa Carter]

Yes, absolutely. Well, that's the whole thing, is that you want to be as open. My son has come to me with other issues about, you know, his life because I kept that dialogue in a non judgment. Not that there aren't consequences. You teach that there are life consequences to your actions. That's what your job, you know, to me as a parent is, is if you do this, this is the consequence, like you know, for, for girls, if you have sex, you're gonna be, it's. You're gonna be attached, you're gonna be emotional. This is, you know, these are the consequences to that action. So anything.

[Bert]

Allison recorded her conversations with her 14 year old daughter. And here's some of it.

[Nicole Forrester]

Wait, about like STDs and stuff?

[Jen Hobby]

Yeah.

[Melissa Carter]

Can you only get an STD from like having sex?

[Caller Chris]

No.

[Melissa Carter]

I mean, you can get it like any time. Well, I mean, mostly, yes. Having sex. Like if, you know, like herpes, like cold sores that people have in their mouth. If somebody was to, you know, and they had a cold sore on their mouth, then you would get it on your genitals and that would suck.

[Mike]

I don't have genitals.

[Melissa Carter]

Yes, you do. You just have the female genitals. Yes, exactly. No, no, no. It's just genital area. There's, you know, there's female genitals and there's male genitals. Okay, Exactly.

[Bert]

And that gives you a great snapshot of their innocence right there.

[Melissa Carter]

Like, no, she's so age appropriate, you guys. You know, and that's what part of this is, is that I don't want her corrupted by somebody else or some, you know, I mean, the rule in my house is there's no older dating. Like, they've been told since they were cognizant. You can't. Like, we have a. Her brother's two years older. There's no dating two years older. You know, you're not emotionally ready or prepared for being with a boy that's older than you are.

[Jen Hobby]

That's so true. My first boyfriend was way older than me. And that was big, big mistake.

[Melissa Carter]

Huge, Huge.

[Jeff Dahl]

It'll grow you up.

[Melissa Carter]

Oh, and it's. And it's so. That is for me, the. If you're a parent and you're letting your daughter date older, like we have. Some of my son's friends are dating, is dating older. Like, he's a sophomore now in high school, and when they were freshmen, there were a few girls dating seniors. Nothing good is going to come of that, people. I was in eighth grade and had a junior boyfriend.

[Heather]

Oh, wow.

[Caller Chris]

Not good.

[Melissa Carter]

Oh, really? Not good?

[Jen Hobby]

Well, because you're so impressionable at that age and all you want to do is be cool and accepted and all that stuff. So I love your rule in your house that your daughter can have a quote unquote boyfriend who's 14. Because she's 14 and like, as long as they are 8, what is that 14 year old boy gonna do? Nothing.

[Melissa Carter]

Nothing.

[Jen Hobby]

Absolutely nothing. And then they're on the same age. Like, I think that is the coolest rule. And I've never heard of that before, but I think it's fantastic rule for anybody's house.

[Bert]

Jennifer has a question for you. Hey, Jennifer, you're on the Burt Show.

[Caller/Aura]

Hey, how are y' all doing today?

[Bert]

Thank you.

[Caller/Aura]

Good. Yeah. I do have a question because I have a daughter that's about to. About to be seven. Real quickly, though, I just want to say, Melissa and Jen, y' all totally made my weekend by being able to meet you at Pride. That was awesome.

[Heather]

Awesome. Thank you.

[Caller/Aura]

But yeah, how do you start that kind of dialogue because, you know, I mean, there. There have been times that I have walked into her room and. And I know that she is curious and has been, you know, kind of trying to pleasure herself. And, you know, I completely believe in openness and in honesty, and I think that's the only way to go. So how do you start that. That open dialogue at such a young age, letting them know that, hey, it's okay to come to me without them thinking, like, I guess a lot of the callers that you guys were getting saying, oh, yeah, my parents think we have an open relationship, but we really don't.

[Jen Hobby]

Yeah, yeah.

[Melissa Carter]

You know, at seven, you know, I think I remember when they were at that age that I sat them down like I had some books, you know, and I just said, okay, I want to have kind of a private conversation with you and just to make sure you understand. And, you know, I'm sure kids are saying a few things and they might get embarrassed. But again, I just kind of. Look, I laugh. I'm like, you're gonna have to talk to. Talk to me about it with a laugh. And, you know, and start off that. Start that off with maybe not having the conversation that day. Laura Berman on it's. I found this whole interview with Dr. Laura Berman on the Oprah website. If you do a search for, you know, how to talk to your kid about sex, she has a whole video, a whole strategy. There's a handbook, a guide to that. You can download that. She's probably the more technical expert on specific questions for your specific kid. I rolled with it. I just trusted communication. I trusted myself to be able to say the right thing to her, and I trusted my relationship with her because I just. I just love her so much and want the best for her.

[Bert]

Hey, Michelle. Good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller/Aura]

Hey, guys.

[Heather]

Hi.

[Caller/Aura]

I know that I'll have a couple of things. There's a couple of good books on the American girl website that'll help, too, for a younger girl.

[Heather]

Okay.

[Melissa Carter]

Wow.

[Jeff Dahl]

Probably have a dial for that.

[Caller/Aura]

But as far as, like, anything, I couldn't ask my mom. She would be kind of open with me. But my brother helped me a lot. He's nine years older.

[Bert]

I'd be a little nervous about that.

[Heather]

Well, no, yeah, I'm with you. My sister's 10 years older. My brother's eight years older than I am, and I've saved. My sister did a lot to help me growing up because she was the one that said, look, use protection. Come to me if you decide that this is the time you want to do that.

[Jen Hobby]

You.

[Heather]

Then you come to me and get it from me. Because she knew that mom and dad were not going to talk about, you know, contraception and everything. So I think that, yeah, having older siblings can be a huge benefit. It depends on the older siblings, of course, you know, but at least she sounds like she has a cool older brother. And I had cool older, you know, siblings when it came to that. They just didn't know I wasn't going to need contraception.

[Jen Hobby]

Wasn't pregnancy that you needed to be

[Heather]

worried about the issue for me?

[Bert]

Alison, I'm assuming you would not endorse having the brother. Pick up the slack on the sex talk.

[Caller/Aura]

Actually, I have three younger brothers and we talk about it all the time.

[Bert]

This is another. This is Alison.

[Melissa Carter]

Oh, I, you know, I actually, it was very funny. You know, we started talking about there's the thing about orgasm. I don't know if it got played all the way through, but she actually asked me about diagrams. I was like, well, maybe we need to have the orgasm diagram. So I had a client who is a pure romance expert. Right. So there's books in the pure romance catalog. If y' all don't know what pure romance is, go to pureromance.com it's a whole female oriented, female oriented sex toy company. And it's really fun and it makes it okay and comfortable and funny and very girl oriented, girly oriented company. So there's books in there, and one of them is how to tickle your fancy.

[Mike]

Right.

[Melissa Carter]

So it's the guide to, you know, how to pleasure yourself. Yeah. And so, you know, the whole question is like, oh, God, do I even know how to explain to you how to orgasm? Like, I don't know if I could actually do that. Like, I don't know. So this book gives the chapters on how to do it, and the first three are probably appropriate for her. The other ones, I'm like, give it back to me. After you read chapter three, of course.

[Bert]

Then she wants to go right to four.

[Melissa Carter]

She says, but what she. But what she does is I'm handing her the book. And she. And Zach's like, my son. He's like, what? And she goes, maybe you ought to raise it. Maybe you need to learn how to pleasure a woman at some point.

[Heather]

Oh, my God, that's awesome.

[Melissa Carter]

So, you know, so they have dialogue about it. I mean, my son and my daughter, they're really cute. And yes, we had the talk with them together and so that they, you know, we just, we have an amazing relationship. And I wish that for everybody. I mean, my kids are such good kids.

[Bert]

Here's another. Allison. Hey, Allison. Good morning.

[Caller/Aura]

Good morning. How are you?

[Bert]

Good, thank you.

[Caller/Aura]

Okay. Yeah. When I was younger, I actually got to talk when I was about 8 years old. I mean, there were some extraordinary circumstances in my particular case. But when my mom realized that I was getting kind of curious about it. She was also my Girl Scout leader. And she actually held a three day class with parent permission, of course, written consent with my Girl Scout troop. And she had nurses come in and talk to us about, you know, different things that went on. And that was, like, really helpful. And then like, throughout.

[Melissa Carter]

Right,

[Caller/Aura]

because, you know, we were like the whole, like, pew rethinking. We had to talk about all that before we could get into, like, the stuff. But, like, we. I grew up in a very religious background. I don't necessarily, you know, do any of that anymore. But, you know, my mom was never like, we were taught, you know, absence, but she also taught us about, like, contraceptives and birth control and things of that nature. And I thought it was. It was good for me. I waited until I was 19, and I'm so glad that I didn't have any relationships like that in high school. I don't think that I would have been ready for it. And good gracious, how many girls were pregnant in my high school. It was ridiculous. And I was like, I don't want to have anything to do with any of that. And so, like, I was just grateful that, you know, my mom, like, and I be. Talked to her. I mean, we didn't have as open conversations that the other Allison and her daughter, but it was still helpful.

[Jeff Dahl]

As long as you leave the communication

[Caller/Aura]

open, your kids will be better able to make appropriate decisions.

[Melissa Carter]

That's it right there. That is. That's fantastic.

[Bert]

I told you guys before that I have a friend in Dallas. I mean, in the guilt that he was laying on his daughter without, I don't even think knowing it, that she used to. They signed a purity.

[Jen Hobby]

The purity ring.

[Bert]

It wasn't a ring.

[Heather]

It was like a purity commitment.

[Jen Hobby]

They had contracts. Contracts and dances where you go with your father to the purity dance.

[Bert]

She had it hung over her bed.

[Heather]

Offended by that.

[Bert]

So every night before she'd go to bed, she'd have this purity contract.

[Jen Hobby]

And I think the difficult part is they're not doing the same thing with their sons. Right. Like he. I mean, if he had a son the same age, would his son have to sign a purity pledge? It's like, why is it the girl's responsibility? That is what's frustrating about that whole thing. Well, I mean there's more but.

[Bert]

Hey Michelle, good morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller/Aura]

Good morning, bird Show.

[Mike]

Good morning.

[Caller/Aura]

Hey Alison, I just want to give you a big ups because what you're doing with your kids is the best thing that you can do is have open communication, dialogue, let them know what's out there, what's right, what's wrong. And I'm sure you're the same on other topics like drugs and you know, your son who's driving. Just if parents did that, kids would be more aware and maybe there would be less teen pregnancies because I see it rising now instead of, instead of that number falling, I see it rising in this day and age when everything is out there and open parents, people are still holding back and not talking to them. And you should think about bringing your philosophy to the school system. You might be able to do a program that goes around to the schools.

[Melissa Carter]

Well, what's interesting that you say that is we actually do inner beauty workshops. Like my company is called Authentic Beauty and we actually have a project called a nonprofit initiative called Project Authentic Beauty. Now it's not about sex, but the number one thing Dr. Berman says is to teach healthy self esteem is to teach your kid to love themselves and to not look outside of themselves for that self love because you're not going to be looking outside yourself. And she screamed at me last night, my daughter, that I must come to her middle school. Like she was like when are you coming? I can't listen to these girls anymore say how they can't stand themselves.

[Bert]

It seems like such a conservative state though. Like I can't see them green lighting.

[Melissa Carter]

Well, it's not, you know, you make an open dialogue. You're not talking, I mean I certainly wouldn't be going in talking about actually open sex like that. It creates a dialogue about loving yourself and creating that. I mean we have 93% of women on this planet don't like with like themselves like or don't think that they're beautiful.

[Heather]

That's in every state. That's not nice in Georgia. And one last thing I was thinking about, you know, you say your daughter's 14, correct. It made me think about when I was 15 and was sitting in classroom and there was a girl in front of me and she had her calendar open before class started. And I looked down and I saw on that there were three stars next to the date and there were stars on several days in the calendar. And I just said, well, you know, what are those stars for? And she said, those are every time I've had sex. She'd already had sex three times that morning. That morning, before she came to school, her boyfriend came to her.

[Jen Hobby]

My God.

[Heather]

Before they came to school, when we were 15.

[Bert]

Allison, thanks for coming in this morning.

[Melissa Carter]

Thanks, guys, for having me.

[Bert]

I'd like to hear more. Yeah, I really would. Like, you know, the next time you guys have that talk, you know, if she's open to it.

[Melissa Carter]

Yeah, she's totally. I mean, guys, we just figure it out off air how we want to go because there's so much more information that I dug up. And she definitely, I mean, I can't believe I am. I'm so proud of her because I, I, I just. The self esteem that she has, it's just, it almost makes me want to cry just thinking about it.

[Bert]

She didn't get that. By luck, you've done a great job.

[Melissa Carter]

Thank you.

[Bert]

I'll have you guys both in again for sure. All right, listen, it's the vert show.