Full Show PT 3: Thursday, February 26 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show – Full Show PT 3: Thursday, February 26 [Vault]

Date: February 26, 2026
Cast: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, guest Tyler Perry, and listener “Crazy” Brian
Main Theme: Adventurous Hitchhiking, Cultures of Fear and Trust, and an In-depth Conversation with Tyler Perry

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Overview

This episode of The Bert Show explores adventure, risk, and perception: starting with a group discussion about the lost art and dangers of hitchhiking in today’s world, including an engaging call-in from a modern-day hitchhiker. The second half features a heart-to-heart interview with Tyler Perry, covering his insights into relationships, keeping love out of the spotlight, finding inspiration in hardship, new projects, and community contributions. The tone balances humor, candor, and inspiration throughout.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Hitchhiking: Then & Now

[01:31–04:10]

• Nostalgic musings about how hitchhiking was once depicted as “the ultimate freedom” and a rite of passage in past decades, contrasted against contemporary fears and dangers.

  • “You watch all these movies from like the 60s and stuff and people are hitchhiking all over the country and it looks like fun, man. It's the ultimate freedom.” – Bird Show Host (01:31)

• The conversation quickly turns to how both caution and skepticism have replaced the old sense of adventure:

  • “I don't see it that way. I think it's very, very scary.” – Bird Show Co-host (01:38)
  • Reference to urban legends and movies amplifying danger.

2. Listener Spotlight: “Crazy Brian” the Hitchhiking Grad Student

[04:10–12:05]

• Brian, a 27-year-old grad student and army veteran, calls in from the road, sharing real-life experiences and shedding light on modern hitchhiking.

  • He travels during school breaks, relying on the kindness of strangers, and enjoys the unpredictability.
  • "I called one friend in Northern Ohio who lives near Detroit, and he's been seeing this married girl for, like six months, and...he needed somebody to come up and cheer him up, so that sort of just made my decision for me." – Brian (04:31)

• Insight into safety and fear:

  • Brian addresses the paranoia around hitchhiking, suggesting perceived dangers are often overstated compared to real risks like heart disease.
  • “I've never been harassed or hassled.” – Brian (05:24)
  • Discusses the use of a sign reading “Iraq Vet going north” to increase chances of being picked up, and how kindness typically outweighs risk.

• Surprising demographic:

  • Most riders who pick Brian up are not truck drivers, as commonly assumed, but ordinary people, sometimes women (usually with male companions).
  • "Not one truck driver has ever picked me up..." – Brian (07:45)

• Brian’s strategies and gear:

  • Wears a bright shirt and hiking socks to appear non-threatening (“more sensible than somebody who just killed a family”) (08:35–08:59).
  • Stays at cheap motels, like Duffy’s for $16.95 a night (10:32), but would prefer this to sleeping outdoors unless paid, joking, “They used to pay me to do that in the army.” (11:16)

• Attitude toward personal safety:

  • Trusts his appearance (larger build and army background) to deter most would-be criminals, and reiterates faith in the “goodness of strangers.”
  • “I weigh 220 pounds...I think I look like I'd be a lot of work. I mean, I'm not a ninja...but I feel like those kind of people would pass me up, probably.” – Brian (09:14)

• Plans to reconnect:

  • Predicts he’ll be somewhere in Kentucky by the next morning.
  • “I feel positive...I’ll be somewhere in Kentucky tomorrow.” – Brian (11:55)

Memorable Moment:

• Motel anecdote:
  • “1695 a night. Motel room has black light written all over it because there’s not a sheet that I would lay on...” – Bird Show Host (10:58)

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3. Interview with Tyler Perry: Relationships, Art, and Inspiration

[14:44–24:26]

a. Communication Misfires Between Men and Women

• Tyler Perry discusses universal relationship challenges, notably miscommunication, especially cross-cultural:

  • "Her whole thing is we have the worst communication...because she's from another country, I just think, am I communicating...right with her, you know?” – Tyler Perry (15:01)

• Tyler advocates keeping relationships out of the public eye to preserve their health:

  • “If you want your relationship to work, you have to...keep it out of the public. Look at people like Brad and Angelina...that's really difficult, especially when you’re just getting to know a person.” – Tyler Perry (16:05)

b. Art Imitates Life

• Admits writing deeply personal stories:

  • “Every bit of them. Are you kidding me? I had a really bad relationship, and I wrote everything in Why Did I Get Married? That’s why so many people can relate to it…” – Tyler Perry (16:58)

• Avoids focusing on physical intimacy in his work:

  • “I've never gotten into sex in relationships...I think sex always clouds everything...Stop having sex and see what you really have.” – Tyler Perry (17:27)
  • Shares an anecdote where a friend took this advice and the relationship quickly ended, exposing its lack of substance.

c. Personal Growth and Resilience

• Reflects on his journey from homelessness to success, highlighting growth and inspiring listeners:

  • “I was in USA Today yesterday...my old apartment…was the apartment I moved in after being homeless...I really want people to know that life gets better. No matter what you're going through, life gets better." – Tyler Perry (19:15)

• Finds catharsis in creativity, using life hardship as storytelling fuel:

  • “What I decided to do was what I always do for my catharsis. I took it to pen and paper. I was listening to LeAnn Womack… ‘I Hope You Dance’...life is short, live every day like it's your last.” – Tyler Perry (19:51)

d. Movie Insights: “The Family That Preys”

• Discusses new film, its themes, and title:

  • Focus on strong matriarchs, family drama, living life fully, and how adversity shapes relatable stories.

• Writing process:

  • “This one really flowed…they stay in my head for months. So when I sit down to write them, they usually come out without any toiling.” – Tyler Perry (21:02)
  • Lighthearted story about directing Kathy Bates (Misery reference).

e. Finding Community and Talent

• On moving his studio and local engagement:
  • Found a warmer community after leaving a less supportive neighborhood; neighbors even clean up outside the new studio.
  • Encourages aspiring actors to watch for open casting calls, managed by casting director Alpha Tyler.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• 04:54 (Hitchhiking origins)
  “I do it as often as I can. I'm a grad student at Emory, and so I do it on my vacations...I used to be in the military. I got back from Iraq in ‘06, and that's when I started doing it.” – Brian

• 05:24 (On safety)
  “This is part of why I do it...I think there's this whole kind of culture of fear...but no, I've never been harassed or hassled." – Brian

• 09:51 (Travel plans)
  “I feel positive...I’ll be somewhere in Kentucky tomorrow.” – Brian

• 15:01 (Relationship communication)
  “Are you kidding me?...Men and women communicate on two different paths." – Tyler Perry

• 16:05 (On privacy in relationships)
  “If you want your relationship to work, you have to...keep it out of the public.” – Tyler Perry

• 16:58 (Mining real life for stories)
  “Every bit of them. Are you kidding me? ...I wrote everything in Why Did I Get Married?” – Tyler Perry

• 19:15 (Hope after adversity)
  “I really want people to know that life gets better. No matter what you're going through, life gets better.” – Tyler Perry

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:31–04:10: Hitchhiking nostalgia & fears
• 04:10–12:05: “Crazy” Brian’s hitchhiking journey & philosophy
• 14:44–24:26: Tyler Perry interview: relationships, inspiration, and career
• 19:15–19:47: Tyler Perry’s motivational story from homelessness to success
• 19:51–21:02: Making of “The Family That Preys,” writing process

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Tone & Highlights

• Conversational and humorous: Unfiltered, real talk among the hosts, with playful teasing of Brian and Tyler Perry alike (“Crazy Brian”; Misery movie jokes).
• Candid and inspiring: Tyler Perry shares openly about relationships and personal challenges.
• Relatable and reflective: Both main segments focus on themes of trust, risk, and the importance of human connection, whether on the road or in relationships.

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Useful Takeaways for Listeners

• The real-life experience of hitchhiking today is a blend of old-fashioned adventure and modern caution, but kindness and curiosity still exist on American highways.
• Privacy, communication, and a strong foundation are crucial to healthy relationships, especially under public scrutiny.
• Life’s adversities can inspire creative success and hope for others; resilience pays off, as Tyler Perry’s journey demonstrates.
• Opportunities await for those seeking to break into entertainment—keep an eye out for “fresh faces” calls in Tyler Perry’s productions.

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For more laughs, stories, and real talk, tune into The Bert Show daily!

Transcript

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[Tyler Perry]

The Bird Show.

[Bird Show Host]

You watch all these movies from like the 60s and stuff and people are hitchhiking all over the country and it looks like fun, man. It's the ultimate freedom.

[Bird Show Co-host]

Yeah, you're just on the side of the road and somebody. You meet new people and then you just go where the road takes you, where that person will take you. I get out of the car and then you go and do it all over again. I don't see it that way. I think it's very, very scary.

[Bird Show Host]

Well, now. Yeah, for sure now.

[Bird Show Co-host]

Okay, I saw. Well, there's been two versions. I saw the first version and I won't. I won't do that or eat fries again. Did you ever see that movie, the Hitchhiker with the Fries? Have you ever picked up one of Fry?

[Bird Show Contributor]

Have you ever picked up a hitchhiker?

[Bird Show Host]

I would never.

[Bird Show Contributor]

Now let me ask you this because I almost, almost on Saturday night picked up some people on the side of the road. And the reason why is I was coming down 400 and there was a broken down taxi.

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[Bird Show Contributor]

And standing behind the taxi were, like, three people. Two girls and a guy or two guys and a girl. I couldn't. But they were all dressed up like they were going out. You know what I mean? Like, the guy had his, you know, his jeans on and his nice polo shirt, you know? And the girls had their going, like. And they were young. They were like. And I'm like, that sucks. Like, they probably just got in their cab to come down to Buckhead and it's busted down on the side of the road.

[Bird Show Co-host]

That's what they want you to think.

[Bird Show Host]

That's what I was thinking, man. It's an elaborate scheme, and that's what happened.

[Bird Show Contributor]

Then I'm like, nope, what if this is. What if the. What if somebody took the taxi and this is a big joke, and he took the taxi and recruited these people to help him.

[Bird Show Host]

Then all of a sudden, you're an urban legend and people are on snopes trying to figure out if your story is true or not. Because you're dead.

[Bird Show Co-host]

You're the crazy victim of the Buckhead bandit.

[Bird Show Host]

You're dead.

[Bird Show Contributor]

It really bothered me for about three minutes till I got to my friend's house. But I was like, I could pick them up and drop them off at wherever.

[Bird Show Host]

I didn't even know it was still legal to hitchhike.

[Bird Show Contributor]

Well, they weren't hitchhiking. They weren't hitchhiking.

[Bird Show Host]

This one was a broken down car.

[Bird Show Contributor]

So it was a busted down car. A taxi cab that was stolen by a kill who had brainwashed three young people to play the role of distressed students. The girls were hot in a short skirt. That attract a guy like me?

[Bird Show Host]

I've seen that movie before.

[Bird Show Contributor]

He wanted to eat my flesh. I know what you're up to.

[Bird Show Host]

What you did last summer, Depending on the rating of that movie, either everybody's gonna die or everybody's having sex, right? But I like the idea of it, man. I mean, you just. You pick up and you leave. You got a couple of bucks in your pocket and you depend on the goodness of strangers to take you to one new place after the next. And it's the complete idea of freedom. But you can't do it anymore because it's such a sketchy idea. Sketchy world. Well, our listener Brian here has not only done it this morning, but he does it quite a bit and is planning on doing it again. And he's joining us from the road this morning.

[Bird Show Co-host]

Hey, Brian.

[Bird Show Host]

Hey, Brian.

[Spinquest Host]

Hey, good morning, guys. How you doing?

[Bird Show Co-host]

How may I call you Crazy Brian. Nervous.

[Spinquest Host]

I just. I love it.

[Bird Show Host]

So how old a guy are you?

[Spinquest Host]

I'm 27.

[Bird Show Host]

27 years old. And at least when you wrote us in this email a couple of days ago, you didn't even know you were going. You didn't know if you were heading to Detroit, D.C. or Boston. You were just getting on the road.

[Spinquest Host]

I know people in all those places, and I kind of had a couple options, and I didn't know where I was going to go. And then I called one friend in Northern Ohio who lives near Detroit, and he's been seeing this married girl for, like six months, and. And kind of shockingly, it's not going well. So he was down in the dumps, and he needed somebody to kind of come up and cheer him up, so that sort of just made my decision for me.

[Bird Show Co-host]

So how long have you been hitchhiking? Is this a regular pattern for you?

[Spinquest Host]

I do it as often as I can. I'm a grad student at Emory, and so I do it on my vacations. Every time we have like a spring break or a fall break. I started. I used to be in the military. I got back from Iraq in 06, and that's when I started doing it.

[Bird Show Co-host]

So you can kill somebody with your bare hands?

[Spinquest Host]

No, no, no, no, no. I just aligned that.

[Bird Show Host]

It's good.

[Spinquest Host]

I mean, I like that people believe that because it. But. But no, no, no, no, no.

[Bird Show Co-host]

We've talked about our fear of something bad happening. So how have you ever had that and, you know, how have you overcome that to do it?

[Spinquest Host]

I think there's this whole cult, and this is part of why I do it. I think there's this whole kind of culture of fear. You know, people are all afraid that some sort of crazy serial killer hitchhiker is going to get you. But I don't know, I don't feel like anybody worries about, like, heart disease, which I suspect is more likely to kill you. But no, I've never. I've never been harassed or hassled. I did one time have two girls roll down their window about 2 inches and kind of peek out at me and ask me if I was going to kill them or anything.

[Bird Show Contributor]

Did you say anything?

[Spinquest Host]

No, I was like. I was like, no, that's my secret. If you ask me, I have to tell you. But no, no, no, I've never had anything shady happen. It's always been everybody that picks you up has always been really cool.

[Bird Show Contributor]

Did you. Did you hook up with those two girls?

[Spinquest Host]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. They look, no, I've seen what happens in those videos.

[Bird Show Co-host]

No, I got.

[Spinquest Host]

One time I got picked up by a very attractive Croatian masseuse down in Florida. And I was like, oh, it's going to be like the movies. But then she dropped me off about three miles later and said she had to go to work. So not like the movie.

[Bird Show Co-host]

I'm surprised that women are picking you up.

[Bird Show Host]

Really surprised that it's women that are picking you up.

[Spinquest Host]

That's what those are. Both, actually, the only two times any other time there's been a female in the car. They were with their husband or their boyfriend or something like that.

[Bird Show Co-host]

Okay.

[Bird Show Host]

For you to get somebody to pick you up. Like, if you start walking right now and you're in North Georgia right now.

[Spinquest Host]

Right, I am. I'm up just a little ways north, I think Calhoun in this town called Resica that I've never heard of.

[Bird Show Host]

All right, so from walking down the road now, and is it the traditional stick your thumb in the air, the hitchhiking thing, or.

[Spinquest Host]

I do, I do. And to kind of maximize my chances of getting a ride, I kind of cash in on the military thing. And I get signs that say, like, iraq Vet going north. And I feel like that kind of improves my odds a little. A lot of people who pick me up say that's why they picked me up.

[Bird Show Host]

And how long generally will it take for somebody to pick you up Once

[Spinquest Host]

you start walking, it's completely random. I started walking and gotten a ride literally five minutes after I stepped onto the interstate. And then one day, like two years ago, I guess I got stuck. I must have walked 20, 25 miles that day. Counting by the exit numbers, it's kind of hard to say.

[Bird Show Contributor]

Now, capitalizing on that military thing, be careful because I think the Iraq Vet sign might helpful, but full camos and your firearm probably not going to get

[Spinquest Host]

you actually be seen. Right?

[Bird Show Contributor]

Yeah.

[Bird Show Co-host]

For some reason, I imagine most people that pick you up being truck drivers who are just kind of lonely on the road.

[Spinquest Host]

Not one truck driver has ever picked me up. And actually, when I've been stuck before and I've seen a truck stop and I veer off and I'll just go from truck to truck and ask nicely. And they've always said no, there's no way. They say they wish they could help, but I guess it's an insurance thing nowadays. But my little brother once got stuck at a truck stop and got offered like two or three rides. But he weighs like 60 pounds less than me, and I think he's A lot prettier and I. I think that was a factor.

[Bird Show Host]

So you've passed it down to your younger brother and he's hitchhiking now?

[Spinquest Host]

No, he wasn't hitchhiking. I think he was just stranded.

[Bird Show Host]

Okay.

[Spinquest Host]

Yeah. No, if I encourage any of my. I have two younger brothers and if they start doing this. My mom's already angry enough at me. If they start doing this, I'm not going to get invited to Thanksgiving.

[Bird Show Host]

So if. What do you look like as you're walking down the road right now? Do you have like that big pack on your back or.

[Spinquest Host]

I do. I carry a backpack. And the only reason I wouldn't even bother carrying a backpack, most of the stuff in my backpack is to go out when I get up to see my friend. Like going out, clothes and stuff. I end up carrying more weight than I need to. But, yeah, I always try to wear, like a bright shirt and I try to wear hiking socks because I don't know if it's true. But in my brain, if I wear hiking socks, I look, I don't know, more sensible than somebody who just killed a family.

[Bird Show Co-host]

That is so bizarre. And you're not afraid of like a Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer or something like that picking you up?

[Spinquest Host]

Nah. I mean, it could. I mean, I know it could happen. I just don't think it's very likely. I just. I just don't think it's very likely. And I'm.

[Tyler Perry]

That's old school.

[Spinquest Host]

And I weigh 220 pounds and, you know, and I think I look like I'd be a lot of work. I mean, I'm not a ninja or anything because of the army, but. But I think I'd be a lot of work to rob or kill, and I feel like those kind of people would pass me up, probably.

[Bird Show Contributor]

Yeah. New killers are finding their subjects on the Internet. They're not bothering. They're not gonna waste.

[Bird Show Host]

Especially with this old school pure murderer.

[Bird Show Contributor]

You're not gonna be like, wasting gas that's expensive to go find your next victim. You just Google them.

[Spinquest Host]

Yeah, it's true. With gas prices, it'd be a lot easier just to get a dso.

[Bird Show Co-host]

Just scares me.

[Bird Show Host]

So when are you expecting to arrive? Like, your friends are like, well, I guess he could be here on Tuesday, or I guess he could be here on Friday, or I guess he could be here on Monday.

[Spinquest Host]

I bet I'll make it to. I don't think I'll make it there today unless I luck out and catch somebody. And, you know, on A holiday weekend or something. Or on a Friday. You're gonna catch longer rides usually, but it's a Tuesday. But I bet I'll make it there Wednesday. Wednesday afternoon. I feel pretty good about Wednesday afternoon.

[Bird Show Host]

I really want to check back with you tomorrow and find out how far you've made it.

[Spinquest Host]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

[Bird Show Host]

All right. So right now you're in what town again?

[Spinquest Host]

Resica. I don't even know if I'm saying it right. I'm probably mispronouncing the southern ness of it, but. R E S E C A Resica.

[Bird Show Host]

And you're going north.

[Spinquest Host]

Going north on 75.

[Bird Show Host]

Yep, on 75.

[Bird Show Co-host]

Some might call it resaca.

[Spinquest Host]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Bird Show Contributor]

Exactly.

[Spinquest Host]

It could be.

[Bird Show Contributor]

I was just gonna say, it sounds so quiet. Are there cars passing you now or.

[Spinquest Host]

No, no, no. It's too dark to get on the interstate right now. I don't feel like getting hit. And I stayed at this. At Duffy's Motel last night for 16.95. So I'm gonna enjoy his continental breakfast, which is apparently coffee and some small donuts. He says it's like a continental breakfast, only simpler.

[Bird Show Host]

How does it get simpler than that?

[Spinquest Host]

Yeah, I want to load up on carbs because I don't know when the next. You know, when the next Waffle House is going to be. So I'm going to eat as many of his small donuts at a simple continental breakfast.

[Bird Show Host]

Man, it's me. But it's 1695 a night. Motel room has black light written all over it because there's not a sheet that I would lay on. There's not a phone I would pick up. And I hope you didn't put that remote in your hand.

[Spinquest Host]

It's pretty gross. It is pretty gross, but it wasn't.

[Bird Show Contributor]

He didn't put it in his hand because it's bolted to the nightstand.

[Spinquest Host]

My other option, I mean, I could sleep outdoors, but they used to pay me to do that in the army, and it's just not fun anymore unless I'm getting a paycheck for it. So I just go ahead and I spring the 20 bucks to go ahead and sleep on a bed.

[Bird Show Host]

Hey, Donna, you're on Q100. Good morning.

[Spinquest Host]

Hey. I just wanted to let him know he resac is the way it's pronounced. And also, there's been lots of illegitimate children conceived at the Duffy's.

[Bird Show Host]

Well, bro, you just missed out on golden opportunity. I'm going to check with you tomorrow and find out exactly where you're at, how far you made it.

[Spinquest Host]

Yeah, absolutely. You guys will just give me a

[Bird Show Host]

ring and you're thinking tomorrow morning when we call you, you'll be in what part of the country?

[Spinquest Host]

It's hard to I bet tomorrow morning I feel positive. I'll go ahead and make a prediction that I'll be somewhere in Kentucky tomorrow. Yeah.

[Bird Show Co-host]

Excellent.

[Bird Show Contributor]

Yeah.

[Bird Show Co-host]

Be careful.

[Bird Show Host]

Yeah, be careful, man.

[Spinquest Host]

Absolutely. You guys have a great day.

[Bird Show Host]

All right, you too. Bye now. The Bird show

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That is true.

[Bird Show Host]

Movie after movie. Tyler, you gotta help us with this here. Do you see this from time to time too, with men and women where they are just in completely different universes when it comes to relationships or their own?

[Tyler Perry]

Are you kidding me? I've been going through that lately. I've just been, you know, the girl that I've been seeing for the last year or so, she's very busy too. So it's. Her whole thing is we have the worst communication when it comes to certain things and times and dates. And because she's so busy and because she's from another country, I just think, am I communicating the way right with her, you know, so I know we communicated on two different paths. Men and women communicate on two different paths.

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How often? Because I don't think that I've heard you talk about this before. How often are you seeing her and how long have you guys been going out?

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It's been about a year. And I don't talk about it because everybody. You know, man, I hate the blogs. I hate the stuff that people say about it. When I was. When I was dating Tyra about a year and a half ago, there was so much stuff going around, I just decided. And Tyra taught me this. She's like, tyler, you just really need to keep your personal relationships out of the. Out of the air, off the air. So I've never talked about it.

[Bird Show Host]

Do you feel it's almost like one of those things, though, if you don't talk about it a little bit, that it becomes like the elephant in the room. Like, everybody wants to talk to you about it and if you would just come clean, then everybody would just shut up and leave you alone?

[Tyler Perry]

No. Because if you want your relationship to work, you have to. You must keep it out of the public. Like, I look at people like Brad and Angelina and Madonna and Guy Ritchie and, you know those people. And then you look at people like Paris and every relationship and Lindsey. They're all in the press every day. That's really difficult, especially when you're just getting to know a person. So I think if you try to keep it private for at least a year before you go public, then you know, if you two really like each other. So as soon as I. As soon as I get ready to

[Spinquest Host]

talk about it, I will.

[Tyler Perry]

But right now we're in the stages of still getting to know each other.

[Bird Show Host]

Is this an agreement that you like, verbally made with her? You said, look, this is not gonna be public. You and I don't even worry about paparazzi or anything like that. Cause I'm not talking about it publicly.

[Tyler Perry]

Certainly, certainly. Yeah. And the same with her.

[Bird Show Co-host]

I'm curious, how much of your relationship, if it's with her or past relationships, do you incorporate in your stories?

[Tyler Perry]

Every bit of them. Are you kidding me? I took everything I knew from my. I had a really bad relationship and I wrote everything in why Did I get Married? You know, and I think that's why so many people can relate to why Did I Get Married. Because it's the kind of movie that it really deals with relationships. As a matter of fact, the lady who was just talking about who this guy is saying, maybe she should see why Did I get Married. Cause it's self affirming, you know, it helps you to get over things.

[Bird Show Host]

Right. Are there any topics in relationships that you absolutely will not touch?

[Tyler Perry]

You know what I have, I've never talked about. I've never gotten into sex in relationships because I just think that there are enough people talking about it and doing it and you know, in movies and film, I just, I don't have an opinion on that one way or another. So I'll just talk about the heart of it, the relationship. Because I think sex always clouds everything. And I tell my friends all the time, you know, it's like, yeah, I'm really having issues with this girl. You still having sex? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have sex. Stop having sex and see what you really have with a person. That'll tell you. That'll really tell you.

[Bird Show Host]

Your suggestion, your advice is to stop having sex with the guy to find out what the relationship is all about.

[Tyler Perry]

Yeah, because they met. He met this girl and they started having. From the first day he met her, they've been having sex and they were in this relationship for a year and it was all about the sex. And they would have all these arguments outside of sex. So I said, stop having sex with her and get to know the woman and see what happens. The minute he stopped, they broke up.

[Bird Show Co-host]

Really?

[Tyler Perry]

Yeah.

[Bird Show Co-host]

Because they didn't have a good foundation in their relationship.

[Tyler Perry]

Yeah, that's what I mean. And, you know, you gotta have a foundation in relationship. Everything can't be sex. Everything. There's gotta be a foundation. But we gotta talk about the family of praise God.

[Bird Show Host]

Yeah, we do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do that. Why don't we get so caught up in talking to you? Because it's so infrequent that we get to hang out with you.

[Tyler Perry]

Too bad I'm in New York. I'd be sitting there with you guys.

[Bird Show Host]

We'd love it.

[Tyler Perry]

Well, we always try to get you

[Bird Show Contributor]

in, but every time I make a phone call or something, you've got something else going on. Like TBS has just ordered 30,000 more episodes or something. You got a new movie coming out

[Bird Show Host]

or an ice show, I think, in a board game coming out.

[Spinquest Host]

Yeah.

[Bird Show Contributor]

Tyler Perry's ice Capades.

[Tyler Perry]

Don't you love it? Don't you love it? Tyler Perry does Xanadu. I love it.

[Bird Show Host]

That's the beautiful thing about Tyler Perry's background is he goes from living outside of a car to, I don't have time anymore. I got my hands on too many things, which is such an awesome part of your story, man.

[Tyler Perry]

It's really great. I was in the USA Today yesterday, and I had them come with me to my old apartment over at 4725th Street. They're getting ready to tear the building down. It was the apartment I moved in after being homeless. And it was a really inspirational story that a lot of people who read it, they really got an insight to what I've been through. And, you know, the reason I share this, all of this stuff is because I really want people to know that life gets better. Life get. No matter what you're going through, life gets better. And it's my hope that as people see my work and that they see what I've been through, that they can. They can feel like they can do better.

[Bird Show Host]

Is this touched upon in the family that prays also?

[Tyler Perry]

You know why I wrote this? I wasn't enjoying my life. About the last time I was there with you guys, I had started going through all of this stuff with the naysayers and the negativity, and it was really bothering me. So what I decided to do was what I always do for my catharsis. I took it to pen and paper. So I was listening to Leanne Womack. Yes. I listen to country music. She was singing I hope you dance. And I was like, wow, this is so beautiful for Life, it's just like life is short. Live every day like it's your last. And here, Here we are. I don't think it's a coincidence that this movie is coming out around this somber time in our country. You know, at the anniversary, seventh anniversary of 9 11. Life is so short. And I think we can do a service to everybody in our lives or everybody who has passed on if we live every day as if it's our last. And Kathy Bates is in this movie, and Alfred Woodard, and they're matriarchs who are trying to live the best life they can while their kids are preying on each other. So that's where prey P R E Y comes from. But it's really a great movie, and everybody who's seen it, they absolutely love it.

[Bird Show Host]

Tyler, is this one of these movies where you just started writing it and it just sort of came right out of you so easily, or did you struggle with this one?

[Tyler Perry]

No, no, no.

[Spinquest Host]

This one.

[Tyler Perry]

This one really, really flowed. I mean, for the most part, most of them, they stay in my head for months. So when I sit down to write them, they usually come out without any toiling. But, no, this one was really, really, really, really easy. Really, really great. And I'm telling you, I gotta tell you this. I was directing Kathy in a scene, and, you know, she was doing something that I wanted to go in a different direction. And she gave me that look like you remember when she was in Misery, when she put the block in between the hobbling. Yeah, hobbling at his ankles. Man, I thought she was about to get me, but that was her process, so. It was really great. It was really great.

[Bird Show Host]

Kenya has a question for you. Kenya, you're on with Tyler Perry. Go ahead.

[Spinquest Host]

Oh, hi. I'm sorry, I'm a geek. I want to know. Well, thank you. And, yeah, thank you. You're great.

[Bird Show Host]

You're handling this very well, Kenya.

[Spinquest Host]

Yeah, thank you. I know. I'm sorry.

[Bird Show Contributor]

A lot of words, not a lot being said.

[Spinquest Host]

I know. Okay. The studio that you're building over in Queenbriar, I wanted to know if you'll be holding auditions there. And where do you post your auditions? Because I desperately want to be a part of whatever it is you're doing anytime you ever do it.

[Tyler Perry]

My casting director, her name is Alpha Tyler at Alpha Tyler. No relation, but Alpha Tyler is her name. And it's. I'm not quite sure of her email, and nobody's here to give it to me, but she handles all of our submissions. She handles all of Our auditions, we post a lot of them when we're holding them because we always need fresh people. I'm always looking for new talents. If you look at House of Pain, which is going into syndication next week, by the way, congratulations. Yeah. If you look at House of Pain, you see that they're all new faces. So I'm always looking for new people. And I'm really, really happy to be over near Greenbrier, and I tell you why. I've been over in Inman park area with my old studio, and I got more complaints. I got complaints every day. The air conditioner was too loud. This place has been a studio for 15 years. When I move in, all hell breaks loose. I mean, the neighbors have been giving me pure hell. So I was thinking, man, what is this? So I move over to the south side of town, and I come there Sunday, and there's a woman outside, man, cleaning up outside of the yard. I go. I'm like, what do you want? Do you need a job or something? She's like, no, I just jogged back past here. I live down the street, and you're doing such a beautiful job, and we're so glad to have you in the neighborhood. She was cleaning up trash that people would throw out of their cars.

[Spinquest Host]

Oh, wow.

[Bird Show Co-host]

Sweet.

[Tyler Perry]

How great was that?

[Bird Show Host]

That must have been, like, a sign to you, like, I did the right thing. I moved in the right place.

[Tyler Perry]

I totally did the right thing. And it's really great being over there because we've got enough space to do whatever we want to do and have a great time.

[Bird Show Host]

Good for you, man. The family that prays. It opens when. Tyler.

[Tyler Perry]

This is my birthday weekend. I'll be 39. So that's a good gift for me if you guys go out and see the movie. Thank you.

[Bird Show Host]

Hey, the next time you're in Atlanta, you know, we always love to have you in studio, so if you got the time, we're here for you.

[Bird Show Contributor]

Well, the next time you're in Atlanta, not churning out two TV shows a day and making a movie and writing another movie and casting for another movie.

[Bird Show Co-host]

Well, he's always going to be doing something like that, right?

[Tyler Perry]

And getting tickets to Janet's concert on the 4th of October.

[Spinquest Host]

Yeah.

[Tyler Perry]

You know, doing all that stuff. Absolutely.

[Bird Show Host]

I'll be there, too, but I have a feeling my seats will be probably right behind yours. And you're such a big man and I'm such a small man. I won't be able to see that stage.

[Bird Show Contributor]

That's okay.

[Tyler Perry]

You can always get on my show. I'll do it, Tyler.

[Bird Show Contributor]

It'll be like the angel and the devil.

[Spinquest Host]

You're so small.

[Bird Show Host]

Hey Tyler, good luck with everything. We'll talk to you next time you're in Atlanta, man.

[Tyler Perry]

See you guys later.

[Bird Show Host]

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[Spinquest Host]

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[Tyler Perry]

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