Full Show PT 3: Thursday, July 30 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show – Full Show PT 3: Thursday, July 30 [Vault]

Release Date: July 30, 2026
Hosted by: The Bert Show Cast (Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, et al.)
Episode Theme: Navigating Family Dynamics & Mother’s Day – Real Talk, Listener Calls, & Big Feels

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Episode Overview

In this vault episode, the Bert Show team dives deep into the emotional complexities of Mother’s Day—tackling tough family relationships, the expectations around honoring mothers, and the challenge of choosing between work and staying at home. With raw, authentic storytelling and vibrant listener participation, the episode balances laughter, empathy, and uncomfortable truths. Key themes include generational cycles of family estrangement, how to “properly” celebrate Mother’s Day, and the eternal struggle for moms to feel truly appreciated.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Navigating Estrangement & Family Cutoffs

(01:01 – 13:29)

• Bert and Team check in on Mother’s Day plans—from simple local celebrations to complex family logistics.

• The emotional centerpiece is a candid, heavy conversation about family cutoffs, especially between adult children and their parents.

  • Host’s Confession:
    The host (Bert) reveals his strained, nearly nonexistent relationship with his mom, stemming from hurtful behaviors and repeated cycles of emotional withdrawal.

    "My mom is just really, really crappy at being a mom. And because she is, she does things that are hurtful. Either they're on purpose or not, but they're still hurtful nonetheless."
    — Host (possibly Bert) [03:32]

  • Letter Unopened:
    He describes receiving a letter from his mother, still unopened on the kitchen table, symbolizing the unresolved nature of their relationship:

    "I know that that letter screams to me every single day now... I'll lift it up and I'll just put it back down. I can't. I just don't want to deal."
    — Host (possibly Bert) [13:11]

  • Panelists and listeners encourage him to consider a last attempt at reconciliation, with memorable metaphors and emotional advice.

    "You don't know how you're going to feel when they pass away. That shouldn't even be an option in your mind, because that's a whole different ball game. You have no idea."
    — Darlene [07:39]

    "When people pass… there's instant forgiveness. Like the minute somebody's gone, whether you want or not, there's a lot of forgiveness for all of the faults…"
    — Bert [10:30]

• Listener Calls & Empathy:
  Authentic stories from listeners echo themes of guilt, regret, and the struggle to break family cycles. The hosts lean in with empathy, but also hard truths about living with unresolved hurt.

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2. Mother’s Day: Gifts, Expectations & The Vent Line

(15:27 – 25:33)

• Mother’s Day Strikes & Disappointments

  • A listener, Aaron, shares her plan to “go on strike” if her family gives her the same mundane Mother’s Day gift (a detailed minivan) one more time.

  • She’s happily surprised when her sons gift her a meaningful necklace they saved up for themselves.

    "They saved up all their money and they bought me this beautiful... I was thrilled."
    — Aaron [17:16]

  • However, old habits die hard—her husband sticks with the van detailing tradition, showing how hard it is to adjust family patterns.

• Do Husbands Owe Their Wives on Mother’s Day?

  • The show fields heated opinions on whether men should give gifts to their wives on Mother’s Day if “she’s not my mom”—eliciting lots of sarcastic jokes and sighs from the team.

    "I didn't get you anything because you're not my mom."
    — Recounted Husband [19:26]

    "She pushed the baby out of her body. Okay. Like she deserves a card, right?"
    — Melissa [19:50]

  • Listeners challenge the sentiment, suggesting that appreciating the mother of your children is a basic standard—not a bonus.

• Material vs. Emotional Value

  • Several callers reinforce that showing appreciation matters more than any physical gift; quality time and heartfelt gestures go further than extravagant purchases.

    "To me, it's not about materialistic things. It's about spending time with me. And my kids spent the entire weekend with me. And that meant more to me than a necklace or flowers or anything could possibly mean."
    — Jackie [22:56]

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3. The Working Mom vs. Stay-at-Home Dilemma

(25:33 – 35:27)

• Wendy’s Dilemma: Mom’s Career or Stay At Home?

  • Wendy (a caller) grapples with her decision to return to work versus staying home with her toddler.

  • She describes the emotional breakdown she experienced after leaving her child at daycare for the first time.

    "I brought my son to daycare last Thursday. And I cried. I cried the entire time I dropped him off… I couldn't do it. I called him up and I told him thank you. Thank you and no thank you."
    — Wendy [26:37]

  • Hosts and listeners offer advice, relate similar stories, and insist that fulfillment is personal—no one path is “right.”

    "You just have to know yourself. And know what. When you're comfortable and when you're fulfilled and happy, your child will be, too."
    — Darlene [31:20]

  • Calls emphasize seeking social connection, talking openly with partners, and allowing room for evolving choices.

• Host Support and Listener Real Talk

  • Listeners caution against dramatic, either/or decisions, suggesting part-time work or gradual transitions.

    "You don't take all those drastic measures and then, you know, pull out that day you're supposed to start a job and then just switch back."
    — Jennifer, caller [32:37]

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4. The Guilt (or Not) of Gift-Giving

(35:27 – 42:06)

• Moms and the "Low Bar" of Presents

  • The team debates whether grown children ever “owe” their mothers more meaningful gifts—or if moms just perpetually lower the bar and accept anything with a smile.

  • Mixed responses on whether giving gifts is harder for dads vs. moms, with anecdotes about shopping struggles and creative solutions.

    "I would just think that parents wouldn't really care what the present was, so long as there was some kind of honoring. Maybe I'm wrong."
    — Host (possibly Bert) [37:25]

• Listener Vent: Feeling Unappreciated

  • Debbie calls in, disappointed that her grown children made minimal effort for Mother’s Day (last-minute cards and "I’m broke" emails).

    "When I was broke, I used to be able to conjure up all sorts of stuff, you know, from my mom."
    — Debbie, caller [41:00]

  • The team affirms: it doesn’t have to be big—but it does have to be something.

    "No, it doesn't need to be anything big or over the top. Just needs to be some kind of honoring something."
    — Host (possibly Bert) [41:26]

  • Younger listeners say even drawing a handprint and “I love you” can matter immensely.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "My mom is just really, really crappy at being a mom." – Host (possibly Bert) [03:32]
• "When people pass… there's instant forgiveness… there's a lot of forgiveness for all of the faults…" – Bert [10:30]
• "You don't know how you're going to feel when they pass away… That shouldn't even be an option in your mind." – Darlene [07:39]
• "They saved up all their money and they bought me this beautiful [necklace]… I was thrilled." – Aaron [17:16]
• "She pushed the baby out of her body. Okay. Like she deserves a card, right?" – Melissa [19:50]
• "To me, it's not about materialistic things. It's about spending time with me. And my kids spent the entire weekend with me." – Jackie [22:56]
• "I cried. I cried the entire time I dropped him off… I couldn't do it." – Wendy [26:37]
• "You just have to know yourself… when you're happy, your child will be, too." – Darlene [31:20]
• "When I was broke, I used to be able to conjure up all sorts of stuff from my mom." – Debbie, caller [41:00]

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Important Timestamps

• Family Estrangement & Cutoffs: 01:01 – 13:29
• Mother’s Day “Strike” & Gift Disappointments: 15:27 – 25:33
• Working Mom vs. Stay-at-Home Debate: 25:33 – 35:27
• The Gift-Giving Guilt Trip & Listener Vents: 35:27 – 42:06

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Final Thoughts & Tone

As usual, the Bert Show brings honesty, relatability, and humor to all-too-familiar issues around mothers, families, and emotional baggage. The tone oscillates between raw vulnerability and comedic relief, supported by authentic listener stories. The show provides comfort and community for people grappling with the messy realities of family life—and a reminder that, if you’re frustrated about Mother’s Day, at least you’re far from alone.

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For more, participate in the conversation at www.thebertshow.com or call 1-855-BertShow.

Transcript

[Caller/Listener]

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[Bert]

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[Host (possibly Burt)]

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[Caller/Listener]

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[Host (possibly Burt)]

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[Darlene]

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[Melissa]

See Terms.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

It's the Vert show. So, Jen Hobby, you are flying to Florida this weekend to hang out with moms for Mother's Day.

[Bert]

Christ.

[Melissa]

I will be in Florida this weekend. Yeah, there's a family friend's wedding this weekend I'm really excited about and gonna see lots of family and friends and my brothers going down and all that stuff, so. Yeah, that'd be cool.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Cool. What you got going on, Wendy? Your mom's here in town?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, my mom lives here in town, so spending most of the weekend with her and then probably just going out with friends tonight. But not a huge weekend. Not anything big to do.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

So you going to Nashville, hang out with Mom?

[Melissa]

Probably not.

[Darlene]

Mama Joe's here in Atlanta, so we're debating on when, if and if there is any need to be on hand in Nashville to help with cleanup. So we're playing that by ear. But the plans are to stay here in Atlanta and celebrate with Mama Joe. Because this is the month of Millie Pete. Her birthday is later in a month. And a lot of times our family makes a bigger deal about the birthday than we do the Mother's Day, so. Yeah.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

And, Jeffrey, for Mother's Day. What are you doing?

[Bert]

I just fedexed up some healthy trim.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

That's cool.

[Caller/Listener]

That was really sweet of you.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Your dad told you to do that, right? I'm having a bittersweet Mother's Day here, man. Me and my mom had a falling out months ago. And yet we're Just not speaking to each other. In my family, these cutoffs are pretty common. And I always swore I would not be. I would not continue this tradition of cutoffs. Right. But my mom and I. It's just so freaking complicated. To try to explain to you what's happened over the last couple of years between us is just impossible.

[Darlene]

Well, you were a divorce first. Brand new listener listeners. You were pretty much a divorce trophy, correct? In that what kind of started the strain?

[Host (possibly Burt)]

I mean, yeah, but that was when I was 7 or 8 years old.

[Darlene]

But that's where.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

I mean, it sort of continued through the years. And my mom has just done things. She's just not a good mom. You know, there are some moms that are good at it, some aren't. My mom is just really, really crappy at being a mom. And because she is, she does things that are hurtful. Either they're on purpose or not, but they're still hurtful nonetheless. So she continued that hurtful pattern. And we. I talked to her about it, and at one point, she said that she couldn't go through this stress right now. So she said, I don't want to talk to you. Go on. So she did the cutoff thing, which I swore I would never do. And, yeah, she also sent me an email one day that, for me, this was like the. The end point. Also, she's like, I was coming to her for some help with a problem, and she basically said, there's. It's too stressful for me to deal with, so handle it on yourself by yourself, and don't send me emails, and I don't want to talk to you for a while.

[Bert]

Did the problem involve her, or was it like.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

It was. Yes, part. Yeah, it was her also. It was. It's. Yeah, it's just. It was part of. Like I said, it's so hard to explain all this. Part of a larger picture of her parenting and even today, still just being crappy at it. So she's like, I can't deal with it. Goodbye. So then a couple of months, and she said, deal with it by yourself. Don't send me an email. Don't call. You're on your own on this. Right. So a couple. Yeah, it is. Right. A couple of months later, she sends me an email saying, I feel okay now. Now it's time that you and I can have this relationship again. And at that point, I was like, screw you, man. Like, I'm on your timetable. And my feeling now is that, you know, it is a parent's responsibility to make sure that your relationship is okay with your kids, I'm gonna do with mine. I will never cut off my kids. Never, never, never. So now I'm sort of digging in in a stubborn way. But the truth of the matter is, I. Like, I don't have any.

[Darlene]

I don't have.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

I'm so angry still that the cutoff was an option for her, that I don't have any authentic feelings to have a relationship with her right now. Like, it would feel so fake to me, like, to call her up or have her come down, or. I just. I just don't have a lot of feelings for it.

[Melissa]

You've said, though, that the ties are always so strong, even with your dad and with your mom, that, like, you still, as much as it can hurt, you will go back and go back for more and go back for more. Like, you don't feel like there will ever be a final cutoff because you thought that was that way with your dad. But then when he got sick, you were like, oh, well, he might be gone forever now.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

So maybe I will not allow a final cut off. I just. I won't. But now, yeah, I won't allow it. I just. I don't want to be part of that same problem that's been in our family for so long. But as I'm saying the words, I know I'm doing it.

[Melissa]

Mm.

[Caller/Listener]

So what if you.

[Bert]

Go ahead. I was just gonna offer a suggestion. So you were gonna. Because I. Cause I read about it on Facebook, and you talked about it earlier, but she mailed you a letter.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Yeah, she sent me a letter about

[Bert]

48 hours ago that's sealed, sitting on your kitchen table or whatever, and you haven't decided when you're gonna look at it.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Right.

[Bert]

What if you called her without reading it? What if you called her on Mother's Day and said, you know what, Mom? I don't know what was in the letter. I haven't opened it. But here's the deal. We're all adults. We're all grownups, and life is short. So let's talk this through, and if she goes, well, I want you to read, or I want you to go over what's in the letter. Go. Well, you know what? Tell me. Let's talk it through.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

And my mom's a therapist, by the way.

[Bert]

That's weird.

[Melissa]

That is a really odd family therapist.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Family therapist in New York City.

[Caller/Listener]

So odd.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

I guess that's probably the mature, right thing to do.

[Bert]

But don't read the letter. Like, even. Do you have a paper Shredder at your house?

[Caller/Listener]

That's what I was gonna suggest earlier.

[Bert]

Yeah. Draw it.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

I've got Hollis.

[Bert]

Yeah. Seriously, drop it in the shredder or burn it. So you don't even have the option to look at it. And then call her up and go, whatever you had to say in that letter, say it to me. And then you respond to it, and you either. And let that be that I couldn't do that.

[Melissa]

I wouldn't be that strong. I would have to open it and read it.

[Bert]

I've watched Bert delete emails from people. He's like, I don't.

[Caller/Listener]

I.

[Bert]

It blows my mind. But he is the only person capable of doing it. But we were having email wars with somebody, and they wrote back to us. And Burke goes, you delete yours. I deleted mine. Click. And I watched him. I'm like, then it's forever. He's like, I don't need to read what he says. I know, but tell him you didn't read it, but read it.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Well, I give them that kind of power over you that, you know. But here's how I would answer that. You know how, Jen, how you used to say, like, with your smoking, like, you just weren't ready. Like, you didn't want. You didn't have the desire to give up smoking. I really don't feel in my heart that I have a desire to be in a relationship with this woman right now, even though she's my mother. Like, I know I hear the words that Jeff's saying, and I know what the right thing is to do. And I've also taken the defensive end on this also and said, okay, if she passes away tomorrow, am I gonna be able to live with this for the rest of my life? Cause at that point, it's gonna be too late. And I can answer that honestly and say, I have given so much to my mom, and she has provided so much pain over the years because that I have given her everything that I can. That if she passed away, I feel in my heart that she wasn't capable of allowing me to have a relationship with her.

[Melissa]

No, I just. Yeah.

[Darlene]

Well, I just say that. It's easy to say that, oh, I feel a certain way. When your parents are still alive, you don't know how you're going to feel when they pass away. That shouldn't even be an option in your mind, because that's a whole different ball game. You have no idea.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

I guess I'm living for the clean slate, that when she passes away, that I could just live at Peace with it. We've never been close.

[Darlene]

I'm telling you, you just don't know.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Here's Jennifer. Hey, Jennifer. Good morning.

[Caller/Listener]

Hi.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Hi.

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning, everybody. I want to tell you I'm going through the exact same thing will happen for years, and don't feel guilty about it. I had this guilt for so many years that the relationship was the way it was. And I'm like, you know what? Now I have my own family, and I cannot feel guilty. Only thing you can do is focus on your family and your future and just don't even hold that guilt. Don't let the guilt, the cloud of guilt come over you, because there's nothing you can do. Just let her be.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

And, you know, I got these. I got emails and I got Facebooks and tweets yesterday also from people that were saying, look, this. At the end of the day, this is still your mother. Right? But the truth is that our relationship has been so crappy and it. And so fractured since my birth that this is gonna be. This is gonna sound awful. I don't feel a whole bunch of love, like I said. I feel like a gravitational pull. If Stacy's mom passed away tomorrow, that I'd. I'd be crushed. If Stacy's dad passed away tomorrow, I'd be crushed. If my mom passed away tomorrow, I don't know that I would have the same feelings.

[Bert]

I think you'd be surprised.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

I don't know. It's been like this for a long time now. Melissa has. Has had a parent that's passed away.

[Darlene]

I'm the only one in the room that's had a parent pass away. And I'm telling you that you just can't. You say that it's this. It's the very same thing as you saying what to your parent. Like, you tell us all the time we don't know anything about being a parent because we don't have a child. But once we do, we'll understand. And that's how I feel about, you know, anybody that says, well, I think I could be at peace with my parents. No, I mean, it's a whole different. It's just. Maybe.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

But you're tight with your dad.

[Darlene]

Like, but there's. But I think one. You have a misconception. I think that. I honestly think you have a misconception about what a average family's like because you assume. I think that because a family's close, that means that they are close and feeling good about each other 24 7. And that's not the truth. Families Ebb and flow. When it comes to emotions, sometimes they get on your. Sometimes they don't. Sometimes Millie, Pete and I get in a fight, sometimes we don't. My dad and I, sometimes we talked and sometimes we didn't. I mean, it just. But we were close. We were still family. And so I think that, you know, when a parent dies, all of that is. Is brought to the surface. And so I. Yeah, it's not. It's not like happy, happy. All. I think your case is extreme because of the cutoffs and because of just the intense negativity all the time. But I do think that most families, yeah, there's fights and there's. You don't get along and there's. Sometimes you don't talk for a couple weeks or whatever.

[Bert]

But you know what I think happens, too? When people pass. And this will be 225 an hour, by the way, for what I'm about to say. But I think if somebody passes and it seems gross to have that, to have the conversation about your mom passing because she's not even sick, but it happens. So there's instant forgiveness. Like the minute somebody's gone, whether you want or not, there's a lot of forgiveness for all of the faults, because in the end, there's like an acknowledgment that they're just mortal, they're just human, and they make mistakes. And that's where it's going to get weird for you, because as soon as it happens, well, there's nothing left.

[Darlene]

The thing is, there's nothing. The frustrating thing, and it lasts with you the rest of your life. There's never an opportunity.

[Caller/Listener]

You.

[Darlene]

You don't stop thinking about them. You don't stop feeling like they're in your life. It is just an unnatural thing to think that they're not here anymore. And they're. Every day there's something that comes up, and there may be times that you regret the fact that you can't say anything to them anymore. You can't talk to him anymore. You can't have any more resolution. You can't have any more fights. You can't have it in. Nothing. Nothing. And one of the things that's hardest for me, for my father to be gone, is the fact that I can't have any more conversations with him.

[Melissa]

And that's hard.

[Darlene]

And it never goes away. If something new happens, if something happens in the news, if something happens in my life, I can't share it with him because he's not here. He never met Katie Jo. That's a huge regret in my life. So, you know, so it just. Just because they pass away doesn't mean that they're not still a part of your life every day, because they are still a part of your emotion and your head games and everything. So just because that happens, it doesn't. It doesn't disappear. There's no clean slate. There's no such thing.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Hey, Adam.

[Bert]

Good morning.

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning. Hey, Bert. I just want to tell you I think you're doing the right thing. I have a brother who has essentially pushed away every member of our family, including his grandfather. And you just. There's only so much you can take, and you just have to. Just have to take yourself out of it and hope that he realizes or she realizes what they've done wrong, and they'll come back to you, and hopefully things will be okay. And sometimes they do, and sometimes they don't. But you can't beat yourself over it.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Thanks, man. Here is Summer. Good morning. One more call. Hey, what's up?

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning. Hey. You know, I think one last call, just one last try. Because you already know to expect that she might cut you off again. I had a friend who died in a car accident. Before she died, we got into an argument, and I didn't hug her when she walked away. And that was three years ago. And that's all I think about. So, like, that one last ditch effort. It's your mom. Just try. And she's not acting like a mom by cutting you off, but one last try. You know what I'm saying? That's what I think.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

I know that that letter screams to me every single day now. I mean, two hours, like, I'm on my computer, and I'm like, okay, am I in the right mindset to go ahead and open this thing? And then I'll walk into the kitchen to open it, and then I'll. I'll lift it up and I'll just put it back down. I can't. I just don't want to deal. It feels so exhausting to me.

[Melissa]

Well, just focus on Stacy as a mom this Mother's Day and Stacy's mom as, like, your surrogate mom.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

I think your advice to me earlier this morning may be the one I

[Melissa]

actually take about the celebrations.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

There's so many great things in May that happen for my family. I've got Mother's Day, my anniversary, Stacy's birthday, Hollis birthday, are all in May for me that to have this sort of, like, to deal with this now, I could put off till June and feel real good about that.

[Melissa]

Just celebrate the good things in your life because you don't want that dark cloud. I mean, if your mother says something really, really mean in that letter, that's gonna hang over this whole month, which should be full of awesome celebrations for your family.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

And she's very capable of that. That's why I haven't opened it.

[Bert]

Why don't you give it to me?

[Host (possibly Burt)]

You can stop the sentence right now

[Bert]

and then I'll just tweak it and then we will do it. As a mad lib on the show

[Caller/Listener]

we can just insert adjectives.

[Bert]

Lately I have found you to be a very big noun.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

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[Darlene]

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[Darlene]

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[Host (possibly Burt)]

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[Wendy]

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[Host (possibly Burt)]

Listen, it's the vert show. All right, so here is Aaron from Friday.

[Caller/Listener]

I have two teenage sons and a couple years ago, I'd say about three or four years ago, my husband gave me a minivan for Mother's Day and I thought that was just swell. However, in the last three years now what I get is that minivan that is filthy because of the kids detailed and cleaned. And what I decided to do is if I get that minivan van detailed again for Mother's Day this year, I'm just going to stop doing stuff for them.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

So she told us she was going on strike. And based on some of the calls we took earlier this morning, it sounds like there are a lot of parents that are ready to go on strike.

[Bert]

Not the only one. We have the Mother's Day vent line. So everybody gets to spill their guts on your. Aaron gets to spill their guts on the radio.

[Caller/Listener]

But everybody else can call 404-255-3535 and let the.

[Bert]

Like how I change my voice to sound like, when do you want to give it a phone number? Amazing. And invent there because, you know, Aaron's special. She gets to vent to everybody.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

But you guys can go there and we'll play those messages back tomorrow morning. So you have 24 hours to do it. But, yeah, we opened up the phone lines this morning, people. Moms were upset. Not a call from their kids, not a card.

[Darlene]

An email.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

An email.

[Darlene]

How do you do that?

[Host (possibly Burt)]

You can't do that to. Mom here is not Debbie. This is Aaron. She's back. Hey, Aaron.

[Caller/Listener]

Hi. How are you?

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Good. How are you?

[Caller/Listener]

I'm well, thanks.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Okay. So how did it turn out this weekend?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, it's not as bad as I thought. I mean, I'm still. I'm still gonna rant a little bit, but it didn't turn out so badly. My sons actually gave me a beautiful necklace for Mother's Day. And it wasn't a little cheap five and dime type of thing. It was nice.

[Darlene]

Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

Beautiful silver necklace with a heart on it. I was really excited.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

It very cool.

[Caller/Listener]

Now, like I said, it was. It was bad. I mean, my boys came up and they did this, and evidently their dad told me that on Valentine's Day they had wanted to get me something, but they didn't have any money, so they didn't want to make that mistake again. So they've been saving their own money, putting it aside every week. And, hey, they've even done chores. And I didn't realize it when I was giving them little pennies and dimes here and there, you know, that they were going to use it for me, but they saved up all their money and they bought me this beautiful. I'm telling you, I thrilled. Yeah. So I think I'm not going to go on strike so much, but I'm not exactly pleased with the husband.

[Wendy]

Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

Because he detailed my van.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

There he goes. He's in the routine.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah. And you know, the only consolation I have in this whole thing is I'm raising children that one day will understand to give their wives Mother's Day presents because they probably heard me, kind of ran a little bit to their dad.

[Melissa]

But, you know, what'd you say?

[Caller/Listener]

I got half of what I wanted.

[Melissa]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

What did you say?

[Melissa]

What did you say to your husband?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, I basically told him that it was his mother's fault.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

That'll do it right there.

[Melissa]

Oh, no.

[Caller/Listener]

But it's true. She should have told him. Give your wife presents. Nobody likes dishwashers. Nobody likes minivans cleaned.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Now, do you and the mother in law generally get along okay or you're just not a big fan?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, I don't think this will help. We're okay. We're okay. But we're not exactly the same kind of people. And this is the reason why.

[Melissa]

Polite way to say that, that's the same kind of people. I'm gonna use that. That's good.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

So we're really just scratching the surface when you made that comment about the detailing thing. But it's more than that.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, it does open a new door. But that's okay. That's okay. As long as my next generation, my boys are gonna grow up and be very, very nice gentlemen to their wives and the mothers of their children.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Yeah. We had a woman call up earlier this morning that said her husband said to her, and they have kids, that I didn't get you anything because you're not my mom.

[Melissa]

They have three kids.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Three kids.

[Melissa]

She births three of their children. And he said, I'm not getting you anything because you're not my mom.

[Bert]

How come whenever there's anger involved, it's always birthed like normally you. Oh, those are her kids.

[Melissa]

She pushed the baby out of her body. Okay. Like she deserves a card, right?

[Bert]

Well, maybe she should have done that when she was having unprotected sex with her husband.

[Wendy]

Oh, come on.

[Bert]

I'm just saying.

[Melissa]

With her husband.

[Bert]

Details.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

This is gonna end up. You are gonna end up in like a fight over a Thanksgiving Day dinner with your. Your mother in law eventually. Because you can see, you can feel it kind of bubbling.

[Caller/Listener]

You cannot wait that long. This kind of brought everything to a head. We'll see. We'll see.

[Darlene]

What did your husband say?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, he didn't say anything. I mean, thank God he didn't say, you're not my mother, because he probably wouldn't have teeth. But kind of like he is. I mean, you know, the kids got you that beautiful present. He told me he kicked in a couple hundred dollars into it. Well, I don't know about that. I mean, it was silver and they each. They each came up with $100 each, so I don't know. I'm not going to talk little petty stuff like that, but I. He couldn't defend himself, so he kind of whimpered away.

[Melissa]

But he pitched in for the Necklace, which I thought was sweet.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

What she's saying is she's not really sure that's the truth.

[Darlene]

Yeah, that was his like.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

But, but, but, but, but you see what had happened.

[Darlene]

Hey, see, honey, what you don't understand is.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Good morning, Eric. You're on the Burt Show. Hi.

[Melissa]

Hey.

[Caller/Listener]

The comment for her is, I mean, like y' all said, she's not his mom. As long as the kids. As long as the kids are old enough to do something for her and no. Have the means, do something for her. Until that point, the dad needs to help the kids, you know.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Okay, so your, your school of thought also is you're the father. You are not the. Your wife is not the mother of you. So why honor her on that day?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, no, I mean, honor her. Don't. Don't let her lift her finger. But you don't really have to get her or anything. I mean, that's the family I was brought up. And the kids go above and beyond on Mother's Day. But the father, kind of off the hook. And the same thing for Father's Day. The mom doesn't really have to do anything for the father on Father's Day.

[Darlene]

The key he's saying is. Exactly. Her argument is that he was raised in a house where that didn't. Yeah. So she's trying to teach her sons that that's not how you treat women in your life, especially if they're the mother of your children.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, I mean, the father did detail her Van. I mean, that's kind of like a backhanded gift. I understand that. I agree with you on that. But I mean, you got something from him. You're not his mom.

[Wendy]

I know.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

As a husband, I like to honor my wife on Mother's Day. I don't care if she's my mom or not. She's not. But she needed to be honored that day.

[Darlene]

Choose your battles. This is the mother of your children. Choose your battles.

[Melissa]

Guys, really. I mean, you're gonna dig your heels in.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

I know, right?

[Melissa]

Come on.

[Caller/Listener]

What did he get your mother in law, his mom, for Mother's Day? What did he get? Oh, yeah, he got her a nice little card and a little, you know, grocery store bouquet of flowers.

[Darlene]

Don't dog the grocery. Flowers. Sometimes those are really nice.

[Caller/Listener]

Don't dog those.

[Bert]

At least.

[Caller/Listener]

I mean, she.

[Melissa]

You got a better gift. Detailing is a lot more expensive than a bouquet of flowers from Kroger.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Hey, Jackie. Go ahead.

[Caller/Listener]

Let's remember the gift story. It's not what it cost.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Here's Jackie Good morning, Jackie.

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning. I just wanted to say that my children are teenagers. And to me, it's not about materialistic things. It's about spending time with me. And my kids spent the entire weekend with me. And that meant more to me than a necklace or flowers or anything could possibly mean. So that's Mother's Day.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

We got calls from people earlier this morning. It was an email. Dude was in Europe, didn't call her. What kind of excuse is that? I had no phones in Europe.

[Darlene]

And mothers don't attack each other. I mean, she's like, it's not, you know, don't be materialistic. I think each family is symbolic of your appreciation for, you know, what they

[Bert]

say is mothers her mother's own worst enemy.

[Melissa]

I think if a woman feels appreciated all year round, then something simple like a card and flowers is plenty. Or even just a card is plenty if they, you know. But it's like if there's this built up sort of anger and bitterness, if the family doesn't go over the top on Mother's Day, then that's when they're disappointed. Right? Maybe.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

I don't know. Hey, Sherry. Good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, good morning. Hey, guys.

[Darlene]

Hey.

[Caller/Listener]

I have a comment and a question for the lady that's called in the Mom. My comment is, I have to agree. I'm a mother, and, you know, I've been told you're not my mother, and I hear that from other people. And I get enough during the year that it doesn't really bother me. I did get some flowers yesterday, but, you know, a car detail is worth far more than a bouquet of flowers. I mean, that's really something that goes with a lot of thought. It's very nice. And if her husband's, you know, paying attention to her the rest of the year during, you know, her birthday, Valentine's Christmas, then I think she should be more appreciative.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

I gotta tell you, we've been doing this show for nine years now. That means we've covered nine different Mother's Days, and this has never come up before. That husbands wouldn't honor their wives on Mother's Day because they are not their mother. This has never come up before.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah. And I'm not even married, so my boyfriend gave me the flowers. But, like, my boyfriend and his son came over and did my yard for me. Little things like that just really mean a lot to me. And I just don't think she's very appreciative if she's getting, you know, the other things, the rest of the year.

[Darlene]

I think it came up years ago when Stacy had Hayden and we had this discussion because she was pregnant, I think. And then Mother's Day was coming up, and then we talked about it then.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

He wasn't born yet. He was still in her stomach. And it didn't register in my mind that she's still a mom. This is Mother's Day here. And I think I made that warning every year after that publicly. And I said, dudes, if you're a first time daddy, I just want to let you know. If she's pregnant, she's a mommy right now, right?

[Melissa]

He's expecting a child and a gift.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Don't make the mistake I made. This is the Birch show, the third show. All right, let's get Darlene back on the voice disguiser now. She thought she was gonna be able to pull this off. This sounds like too much. So her idea was because my husband wants me to stay at home with the kids, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna get up in the morning, I'm gonna take the kids to daycare, then I'm gonna go to work. One kid.

[Melissa]

One kid.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Then I'm gonna go to work. Then I'm gonna come on back before he gets home, pick up my baby, be at the house waiting for him when he gets there, cook him dinner every night. He'll never know anything different.

[Darlene]

Food on the table, ready.

[Bert]

No problem.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

No problem.

[Caller/Listener]

She was gonna practice this on Thursday and Friday, too, before she even started the job on Monday.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

So, yeah, she got this job that he didn't have any idea about. She was supposed to start it yesterday.

[Melissa]

So.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Darlene is back. Good morning, Darlene.

[Wendy]

Good morning.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Hi. How are you?

[Wendy]

Hi. I'm good, thank you. How are you guys doing?

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Okay.

[Darlene]

Good.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Now, Wendy said that you were gonna practice this on Thursday. Friday. I don't remember that part of the conversation. So what was the plan?

[Wendy]

The plan was that I was going to start my son in daycare a couple days before I actually had to start my job just to see how it would go. And I was supposed to start my job yesterday. And I brought my son to daycare last Thursday. And I cried. I cried the entire time I dropped him off. I cried. I went home, I cried. I didn't know what to do with myself. Yeah. And I picked him up. And I picked him up very, very quickly. I only left him there a few hours, and I couldn't stand it. So all that I could think of that day was maybe My husband's right. Maybe I'm not cut out for this. Maybe I should be. Maybe this is right for me to be the stay at home mom. So I didn't start my job. I couldn't do it. I called him up and I told him thank you. Thank you and no thank you.

[Melissa]

Complete and total change of heart. So you don't even want to try working for one day?

[Wendy]

I couldn't leave him. I couldn't do it. What if I miss everything? What if I miss him saying a new word?

[Bert]

He'll say it again.

[Wendy]

What's that?

[Bert]

He'll say a word again. Like, people are like, oh, first step. So guess what? They're gonna be walking their entire life.

[Melissa]

Oh, well,

[Host (possibly Burt)]

are these. Are these your words, though? Are these your husband's words? Do you really feel this, or is this your husband talking?

[Wendy]

I guess it's. I guess it's both. You know, I mean, this is. This is how I was raised as well. And, you know, my mom was home with us, so I, you know, I just couldn't do. Wasn't in me. I guess I'm just not that person.

[Darlene]

Okay. I mean, I kind of see where Bert's going. Because you were so passionate about being a working mom last week, and so it's such a 180, and it's simply from dropping your child off at daycare for an hour.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

I can understand that. A lot of parents go through this. That first day is the toughest. If you ask a parent in daycare, I mean, yeah, it's. It's brutal, but you get past it because you have to. Normally, she doesn't have to, you know, so I could see why you would give into it and say, look, I just don't want to go through that.

[Wendy]

I don't know, maybe. Maybe because the. The friends that I did tell, I. They didn't. They kind of were talking me out of it. And. I don't know, the more I thought of it, the more I thought, maybe this is just the wrong move right now. Maybe in the future, maybe if I prep my husband and talk to him, you know, more on this. On this situation, maybe. Maybe down the road when he's. When our son's a little older. I just. I don't know.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Here's Linda. She wants to give you some advice. Hey, Linda. Good morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning. How are you doing?

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

I just wanted to tell Darlene to hang in there, that the best is yet to come with her son. And, yes, motherhood can be Isolating. But there are many, many ways to connect with other mothers that are in the same situation, and that can be terribly, terribly rewarding. Just wait till her son starts bringing home that artwork and showing all the work that she's put in. And whatever she does, make a decision with her husband, she can't make it on her own anymore. She's married.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

That was never gonna work.

[Caller/Listener]

That's a great point. Have you tried, darling, have you tried to do, like, play dates with other moms or set up some sort of group activity with your son?

[Wendy]

Not really, no. I suppose I should look into that. I don't really know much of what's going on.

[Melissa]

I know they do, like, swimming, like Mommy and me, like swimming classes and music classes and gymnastics. And there's tons of different stuff you guys could be doing together. And then you're connecting with other moms and maybe having more adult conversations, which will keep you from wanting to pull your hair out at home, you know?

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Here's Melissa. Good morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning. I just wanted to say that what she's going through is normal. If she wasn't missing him and worried, she would be abnormal. But she's neglecting herself, being selfish for not trying to get out there and have a normal social life. I mean, she's going to go through that for two or three days. That's normal. But it will get better. But believe me, I have two kids.

[Darlene]

It just seems that, Darlene, that you're soul searching. I mean, you're searching what kind of mom you want to be. Because, I mean, this is the conversation we had last week both with you and producer Tracy on you got to figure out what kind of mom.

[Melissa]

What.

[Darlene]

What kind of mom you want to be that makes you fulfilled and makes you a better mother. And so, you know, it's like we said last week, I mean, stay at home mom, working mom. I hate when they're pitted against each other because I don't think it's a competition. I think it's. You just have to know yourself. And know what? When you're comfortable and when you're fulfilled and happy, your child will be, too. And so I think that it just sounds like you're trying to figure out at one point you thought you were a stay at home mom. And now, I mean, I'm sorry, wanted to be a working mom, and now it seems like you are leaning toward stay at home mom.

[Wendy]

Well, I guess I'm just trying to figure out what it is that I. Yeah. What it Is that I want. I never really, I was never really passionate about anything. And I got married, I had a kid. I mean that, that was it. That is what all I've known. I suppose everybody's right. I should go out and search for some horses or something.

[Bert]

Have you considered putting your baby up for adoption?

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Hey, Jennifer.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Hey. Here we have Darlene, who thought that she wanted to be a working mom, puts a baby in daycare for one day and couldn't even do the entire day and now has had second thoughts and now she's thinking, okay, stay at home mom thing, not so bad.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah. I don't buy it. And I stayed home with my son for the first two years. I was miserable. I have a second son now. I'm working two days a week. I cannot stay home full time. I just, I know exactly how she feels and I feel bad for her because I think she just. Whether it's getting a babysitter for a couple hours a week or something, but she's not going to be happy staying home. You don't take all those drastic measures and then, you know, pull out that day. You're supposed to start a job and then just switch back.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

That's what. Melissa's nodding her head yes also.

[Darlene]

Yeah, because I don't, I think you're going from one extreme to the other. And I, you know, it may not be a job. It's like what Jen and Wendy were saying. It may not be a job that is going to fulfill you, but I do think that where you were before made you miserable. So by going back to what you were doing before, I don't say, are you going to be happy now again from just the one hour that you dropped your kid off at daycare?

[Wendy]

I think that maybe I felt guilty about not. Well, yeah, I definitely felt guilty about not speaking to my husband about it. I'm thinking if I just talk to him and let him know eventually that I did get my degree, I can eventually find another job or maybe a part time job, maybe not a full time job. Maybe I'm just not ready for that yet. Maybe what that woman just said, she works a couple days a week. I mean, how does she do it? I mean, I guess people do it

[Host (possibly Burt)]

especially because you're in a very envious position in that you don't need the job. So you don't have to really pigeonhole yourself. It sort of opens things up for you. You can go out and you have the time to find the exact right job for you and your family situation. A Lot of people don't have that right. Let me take one more call. Good morning, Stacy. You are on Q100.

[Wendy]

Hi.

[Caller/Listener]

Hi. Just quick comment from a stay home mom to now a working mom. Just take the time you have to be a stay home mom right now and cherish it and take every moment. Because before you know it, you'll be at that first day of kindergarten and you can go back to work and you're going to look back like I do right now and just wish I was home with these children right now, going to mom's groups, going to play dates, because. And be glad, like y' all were saying, that you have the choice to be home. So just take each moment at a time. Enjoy the stay home mom time. You're in now. You'll be a working mom again before you know it.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

I'll tell you what. Either way, your plan was never gonna work. There was no way you would have exhausted yourself or the timing wouldn't have worked out one day. There's just no way it was gonna work.

[Darlene]

I think.

[Melissa]

I think that you've got to talk to your husband about this whole issue. I mean, you've sort of worked this out, you know, from start to finish, on your own. And he's not been included in any of this, right?

[Wendy]

No, I'm working up the courage. I am.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

All right, Darlene, thanks for sharing with us. We appreciate it. Good luck either way.

[Bert]

All right.

[Wendy]

Thank you so much for the advice. Thank you.

[Caller/Listener]

Bye.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Bye.

[Bert]

Get it.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

The bird show.

[Bert]

Hey, the bird show sent a Mother's Day gift to my mom and she got it on Friday.

[Caller/Listener]

Aw, that's sweet.

[Darlene]

Sweet.

[Wendy]

Jeffrey.

[Bert]

Same thing I sent last year?

[Melissa]

Yeah, same thing.

[Bert]

Yeah, A little gift basket from Mrs. Fields Cookies.

[Melissa]

What is Mrs. Fields Cookies?

[Bert]

Brownies and stuff. And they probably come in a tin shaped like a bouquet of flowers or

[Melissa]

something Mama likes, right?

[Bert]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

But I thought for sure you'd go to, like, one of those ceramic places

[Bert]

and make a paint something. Paint your own pottery thing.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Make like an ashtray or. No, spittoon. Something for spittoon.

[Bert]

Shot glasses with her monogram on it. Laser hair removal. But I get. Every year, I get, like, that's what she gets. Some version of a confection for Mother's Day. Brownies, cookies, whatever, blah. Because that's what she likes. My dad, however, gets treated better, I think, for his birthday and Father's Day. Then my mom gets treated for Mother's Day and her birthday, only because he is easier to buy for. And I wonder if they notice that Like, I wonder if I should be feeling guilty.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Do you think moms just are just, you know, it's like when the bar is set so low for, like, a child, like a 3, 4, 5 year old, that anything they get is the greatest. Does that ever go away with a mom, even when their kids are, like, 30?

[Melissa]

I have a much harder time shopping for my dad than I do my mom. I think my mom is way easier to shop for.

[Bert]

Do you ever feel good?

[Melissa]

There's way more categories to shop for. She's got way more interest. My dad is like, cigars and golf, like. And if I, you know, and he's got every gadget under. Under the sun in each of those categories, I have a harder time with him.

[Bert]

That's how my mom is. She just has, like, real basic interests. Like the stuff in the garden, you know, like, take care. Takes care of the yard.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Yeah.

[Bert]

And that's pretty much it.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

I would just think that parents wouldn't really care what the present was, so long as there was some kind of honoring. Maybe I'm wrong. 404-741. Q100.

[Melissa]

Well, you're a parent. How do you feel?

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Well, my kids are still young, though, so anything that Hayden or Hollis draw for me is the greatest thing ever.

[Melissa]

Sure.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

But when I'm, like, in my 50s or 60s and they're in their 20s or whatever, I don't think that I would really care. But maybe it is different.

[Melissa]

A heartfelt card's probably gonna mean more than a new, you know, shirt or whatever it is.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Yeah, I don't think it would even matter. I'm not really sure.

[Caller/Listener]

But that's.

[Bert]

Maybe I should have Hayden and Hollis draw a picture for my mom. If they're really that great. Like, if those pictures are as great as you say they are, Pops.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

But they're not. That's the beautiful thing. It's like, they could be totally out of line. It doesn't matter. So long as they're giving you something that says Happy Mother's Day or Father's Day on it. But I do wonder, like, if when

[Bert]

you get older, like, I gave one

[Host (possibly Burt)]

year, if your parents are like, you know, you should know me a little bit better.

[Bert]

Because my dad likes to, you know, play blackjack and sit at, like, the tables and at the casino and stuff. And my mom goes with him, and she'll play the slot machines while he. Whatever. So a couple years ago, for his 70th birthday, we got him plane tickets to go out to Las Vegas. And then I had a friend who was out there buying me $75 chips.

[Caller/Listener]

Cool.

[Bert]

And I gift wrapped those so he had one for each year, you know. 70.

[Caller/Listener]

That's cool.

[Bert]

So I bought him and that was like a real man. That was an expensive gift, you know what I mean? But I gave it to him and I thought that was really cool. But I can't give something like that to my mom because it wouldn't have the same meaning because she doesn't gamble.

[Melissa]

Like do you find you can give gifts better to the parent you're most like? Cause you're probably most like your dad.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Bert]

It might be the case.

[Melissa]

Maybe it's easier to get gifts for him because you have like similar interests or you're more. They could be like him.

[Bert]

Uh huh.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Here's Deb. Good morning Debbie, you're on Q100.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, good morning. Good morning. No, I think the kids seem to expect that mom likes a card. Mom likes, you know, whatever I give her because she's always been easy going about it and I think I reached my limit this year.

[Bert]

Oh no.

[Caller/Listener]

What happened yesterday? Not much.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Oh no, nothing at all.

[Darlene]

How old are your children?

[Caller/Listener]

I got flowers from my husband and a car that was very nice. And he attempted to take me to breakfast but every place was so crowded. We were like eh. Because it was just the two of us. One went out at. Oh gosh, I think it was about 5 o' clock and came home and said here's your card on it that day, last minute. Gary. Yeah. And all grown up. Should have known better. One is, you know, he's out of town and I got an email that said would have bought flowers except I'm broke.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Not even a call.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, he. No, he can't. He's. He's in Europe.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Okay. But anyway, military in Europe because I think they have phones there.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, no, no, he didn't. And I kind of didn't expect a phone call, but anyway and then went to dinner with the third one.

[Bert]

They're not even children anymore, they're just the third one.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, they're grown up people. Granted, just getting going just out of college, you know, and all that kind of stuff. But this, I'm broke all the time, you know, Claim you can do something. When I was broke, I used to be able to conjure up all sorts of stuff, you know, from my mom.

[Bert]

Well, this, this little topic has taken an ugly turn.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Yeah, you just needed to vent to somebody. You're bombed still today, right?

[Melissa]

That stinks. Cause you've done so much and you need to be appreciated.

[Caller/Listener]

Well. And I decided I haven't. I haven't said anything to anybody. I probably won't, but I think next year I'm going out of town and going to see my mom.

[Bert]

Good for you.

[Darlene]

Yeah, you should.

[Bert]

Do you want. If you would like, I'll send you some. Mrs. Fields,

[Caller/Listener]

how nice of you.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

I mean, you gotta do something. I mean, you gotta do just a little something. But what I'm hearing her say is that no, it doesn't need to be anything big or over the top. Just needs to be some kind of honoring something. Yes. Hey, Liz, good morning. You're on Q100.

[Melissa]

Email doesn't cut.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, I'm 21 and I still draw my hand for my mom and write I love you.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

That's probably the coolest thing she gets every Mother's Day. Also.

[Caller/Listener]

It is. I do it for birthdays also.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Good for you.

[Melissa]

That's awesome.

[Darlene]

Yeah, good for you.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

Yeah. So I don't think it's. I don't think it ever goes away. The bar is pretty set low, but it's something.

[Bert]

Well, I would like to thank our first caller today for making me feel better. Yeah, three lousy kids, can't even counter up a phone call.

[Host (possibly Burt)]

The first show.