Full Show PT 3: Thursday, June 4 [Vault]

Summary

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The Bert Show – Full Show PT 3: Thursday, June 4 [Vault]

Date: June 4, 2026
Cast: Bert, Jen Hobby, Jeff, Melissa, Callers

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Bert Show mixes the cast’s trademark relatable humor with authentic discussions about dating, philanthropy, reality TV, and personal growth. The team opens up with a lighthearted back-and-forth over the realities of modern dating, dives into the heartwarming stories behind "Bert’s Big Adventure" (a charitable trip for kids with chronic illnesses), debates the risks and rewards of reality TV contracts, and closes with a revealing conversation about gun perceptions and newfound empowerment. Listeners are treated to memorable moments, candid admissions, and emotional highs and lows.

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Key Segments & Timestamps

1. Modern Dating as a "Buffet": Jen Hobby's Romantic Life

[01:02 – 13:18]

• "Dating as a Verb"
  Jen Hobby explains her approach to dating, advocating for proactivity:

  "Dating is a verb. You have to actively do it. You can't just sit back on your couch and watch So You Think You Can Dance and expect a whole bunch of guys to show up knocking down your door."
  — Jen Hobby [03:01]

• Buffet Analogy for Dating Jeff humorously likens Jen’s approach to sampling different buffet stations, urging her not to settle too quickly:

  "Right now you're just at the bacon, sausage, ham station, right? ... but you haven't even gone down to where the crepes are."
  — Jeff [06:30]

• Gender Double Standards & Serial Monogamy
  The group discusses how women are often expected to prefer monogamy and can feel guilt about dating multiple people, compared to men. Melissa and Jeff both admit to being "serial monogamists."

  "I don't envy being a girl and having to date a lot of guys. I think there's an internal thing in women where they got to be monogamous and whatever."
  — Jeff [09:53]

• Relatable, Vulnerable Moments
  Jen admits her past patterns and some fears:

  "I know that I have always been from a relationship to another relationship. There's definitely something that scares me about that."
  — Jen Hobby [13:18]

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2. Bert’s Big Adventure: Life-Changing Trips for Families

[14:00 – 28:22]

• Introducing the Families
  Bert describes meeting the 2010 families for Bert’s Big Adventure, highlighting the depth of their struggles—especially the children with chronic and terminal illness.

  "So these are kids that are sick from day one or every day. This mom is like, she's got to be nervous all day long."
  — Burt [15:14]

• Heartbreaking Diagnoses
  Includes references to children with osteogenesis imperfecta ("brittle bone disease"), spina bifida, chronic kidney problems, and more.

  "Both have osteogenesis imperfecta, which is brittle bones. Cameron just… Kaylee fell out of a chair and broke her leg, like, sliding down on the couch."
  — Christina (Caller) [24:48]

• Dozens of Surgeries, Families in Need Several moving phone calls where Bert notifies parents their families have been chosen for the trip:

  "Oh my God. Are you serious?"
  — Latoya (Caller) [20:13]
  "This is so awesome, because we didn't even have money to get him anything for Christmas."
  — Sandra (Caller) [26:15]

• Focus on Connection, Not Just a Trip Bert distinguishes their organization from larger ones:

  "We purposely keep it this small because we, as a staff, want to get to know them. We want to hang out with them in the parks...We really want to get our hands dirty and connect with these families."
  — Burt [16:11]

• How to Help
  The cast reminds listeners how they can support through donations of money, sunblock, phone cards, or wish list items.

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3. Behind the Scenes: Casting for Reality TV

[28:22 – 39:14]

• Bert’s Reality Show Dilemma
  Bert discusses being approached to join an Atlanta-based reality show, hinting at connections with the creators of Real Housewives.

  "She is putting together a reality TV show here in Atlanta and she's looking for a bunch of dudes...I thought, you know what, things went pretty well."
  — Burt [29:06, 29:16]

• Reality TV Contract Risks Jeff and Burt discuss contract pitfalls, referencing a CNN article warning about extensive waivers and loss of personal brand control.

  "It basically says what you were choking on is, man, it's all gone. You get on camera there and they have complete control of what they want to do."
  — Burt [30:06]
  "They are marketing you. They could take the smallest thing that happens in your day, and they can shape it and form it any way they want. There's nothing you can do about it."
  — Burt [31:18]

• Stories of Manipulation Real-life consequences are shared, such as a woman misrepresented as being drunk and a man portrayed as cheating due to selective editing:

  "If I had a conversation with him, he would lean...they only showed him doing that to attractive women. Then showed the wife footage of that..."
  — Jeff [33:28]

• Casting and Ethics The show reflects on the nature of drama, editing, and the potential for anyone to be cast as the “bad guy” or “peacemaker".

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4. Changing Perspectives: Jen Hobby Shoots a Gun for the First Time

[39:16 – 47:33]

• A Shift in Attitude Jen, once frightened of guns, tries shooting for the first time and is surprised at how empowered she feels afterward.

  "I actually shot a gun for the very first time over the Christmas holidays...I loved it. I couldn't believe it."
  — Jen Hobby [40:24]

• Guns in Childhood and Safety Argument
  Melissa recalls being raised around guns and the emphasis on safety. The conversation explores the distinction between responsible gun use (for sport/hunting) and gun-related crime.

  "I was raised with gun safety...I'm totally comfortable with guns."
  — Melissa [41:38]

• Empowerment & Overcoming Fear
  Callers affirm the empowerment aspect, especially for women:

  "I was just like Jen. I was like, oh my God, this is just killer. ...I think it's just something with empowerment."
  — Amber (Caller) [44:23]

• Still, Not Everyone’s Sold Wendy remains unsure, and Jen invites her to a shooting range:

  "I'd shake the entire time, but yeah, I'll go. Because I would just be interested to see...if your opinion doesn't change."
  — Jen Hobby [47:12]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Jen on Dating:
  "You have to participate in the whole dating thing." [03:19]

• Jeff on Sampling Life:
  "You're just at the bacon, sausage, ham station...but you haven't even gone down to where the crepes are." [06:30]

• Melissa on Serial Monogamy:
  "There's serial monogamy, in which I admitted that I am that person. And then there's women who are not." [12:01]

• Burt on the Purpose of Bert’s Big Adventure:
  "We purposely keep it this small because we, as a staff, want to get to know them." [16:11]

• Burt on Reality TV Contracts:
  "You have to just absolutely assume that they have your brand. They are marketing you. They could take the smallest thing that happens in your day, and they can shape it and form it any way they want." [31:18]

• Jen on Gun Experience:
  "That first shot that I took, I was so scared of it, I had to, like, put it down. And, like, I was, like, shaking my hands. I was like, okay, I can do this." [45:02]

• Melissa on Guns and Crime:
  "A gun is an extension of a person. So if that person is into sporting or that person is into crime, the gun is gonna...be used for that purpose." [44:00]

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Recurring Themes & Tone

• Relatable Humor & Candidness:
  The cast maintains honest, self-deprecating, and playful banter, making serious topics feel accessible and facilitating honest admissions.
• Emotional Authenticity:
  The "Bert's Big Adventure" segment adds emotional depth, spotlighting families in real need, with moments of genuine compassion and joy.
• Openness to Growth:
  Jen’s story of shooting a gun for the first time is framed as personal growth, challenging previous biases and fears.
• Ethics & Media Manipulation:
  The reality TV discussion encourages skepticism about the media, emphasizing personal integrity and the risks of public exposure.

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Listener Takeaways

• Dating is Active; Self-Growth is Crucial:
  Don’t just wait for love—get out there, try new things, and keep moving forward, even if it means stepping outside your comfort zone.
• Empathy for Families in Crisis:
  Through "Bert's Big Adventure," the show encourages generosity, understanding, and community support for families facing extraordinary challenges.
• Informed Consent Matters:
  Aspiring reality TV participants (and consumers!) are urged to consider how editing and contracts can reshape real lives and reputations.
• Learning Can Shift Perspectives:
  Personal experience—such as with firearms or other previously-feared experiences—can dramatically change opinions and foster growth.

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For more stories and to support Bert’s Big Adventure, visit bertshow.com.

Transcript

[Jen Hobby]

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[Burt]

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[Jen Hobby]

funds from lottery games help support parks

[Burt]

projects across the state, ensuring they stay safe, accessible and open for all. In fact, Discover State Park Scratches are in stores now.

[Melissa]

It's the perfect way to put a

[Burt]

little bit of Oregon's parks in your pocket. The Oregon Lottery.

[Jen Hobby]

Together we do good things.

[Burt]

Must be 18 or older to play Lottery games are based on chance and should be played for entertainment only.

[Jeff]

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[Jen Hobby]

delicious and beautifully made. This Father's Day, skip the scramble. Send a gift that feels special and

[Jeff]

let edible help make it all come together. Hey, the birch.

[Burt]

All right, Jeff dollar. Are you ready for your sentence?

[Jeff]

Bring it.

[Burt]

Are you ready?

[Jeff]

Bring it.

[Burt]

The rest of us just need to sit back and enjoy the ride on this one, okay?

[Jen Hobby]

All right. Ready.

[Burt]

All right, Jeff.

[Jeff]

Yes.

[Burt]

Jen Hobby is using the word dating as a verb.

[Jeff]

I believe you're gonna be something to

[Jen Hobby]

do with his contract.

[Jeff]

I believe you're hearkening back to the conversation that you had yesterday as I was driving in but couldn't participate in because I wasn't on the show till correct.

[Burt]

Jen Hobby is using the word dating as a verb.

[Jeff]

The problem with the sentence, that's not a factual sentence. What you should have said was, I'm gonna tell Jeff a lie and let

[Caller]

him go off on it.

[Jeff]

And the reason Burt knew this would be such a slam dunk is because yesterday I didn't listen to the show because I don't like it when I wasn't working here. So when I drove in yesterday to come back on the radio, you know, all the contract drama, blah, blah, blah, it's birds had come in at 7:30, so I was in the shower at like 6:45ish, I think. And I had a new shower radio for Christmas, so I'm listening to the bird shows.

[Burt]

More simple, aren't we?

[Jeff]

Yeah, there's water splashing on the radio, but it's still working. Holy crap.

[Caller]

That's so awesome.

[Jeff]

I'd have to Twitter this technology. And I heard you guys talking about Jen, Jen Hobby, who claims to be dating like 13 guys right now.

[Burt]

So that's what you mean by dating. As 13, you said dating. You're dating as a. You're using the word as a verb, meaning, like, you're just gonna date this guy and that guy and that guy. You don't have to just settle down the one dude.

[Jen Hobby]

Well, it was actually when I first. I mean, yes, but when I first said it, it just means that you have to be active about it.

[Jeff]

Jennifer, I'm gonna handle this.

[Jen Hobby]

Hang on. When it first came up on the show. Dating is a verb. Is because you have to actively do it. Right? You can't just sit back on your couch and. And watch. So you think you can dance and expect a whole bunch of guys to show up knocking down your door. It's a verb. Like, you've gotta be involved in it. Maybe if you're not meeting the right people, you've gotta do different things. Hang out with new friends or go to new places or date online or whatever. But you have to, like, actively do it. You gotta text the guy who called you two days ago. You can't just, like, expect him to keep calling. You know what I'm saying?

[Burt]

Get aggressive.

[Melissa]

Yeah.

[Jen Hobby]

You have to participate in the whole dating thing. That was the initial part of it.

[Jeff]

Okay, so the conversation.

[Jen Hobby]

That's the initial definition.

[Jeff]

So the conversation that I. That I heard was one of Bert asking, you know, telling Jen that she was struggling with a part of herself because, you know, Jen wanted to be. She's a dater. She's dating with a verb. Dating.

[Burt]

Dated like a man.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Lots of people dating.

[Jen Hobby]

Date like a dude.

[Caller]

Right.

[Jeff]

But she was struggling because of the 14 guys that she's dating, one of them, she wants a ring from. Like, she.

[Jen Hobby]

That is not true. That is so not true.

[Jeff]

But one of them is.

[Jen Hobby]

Shut up.

[Burt]

That is not true.

[Jeff]

One of them is a lead horse.

[Jen Hobby]

Yes.

[Jeff]

And you're struggling dating.

[Melissa]

I mean, lately you talk about. I mean, how many lanes. Yes.

[Jeff]

Labs. Right.

[Melissa]

Sorry.

[Caller]

Yes.

[Melissa]

I'm sorry, Jenkurt. Let me rest my throat. Sorry.

[Jeff]

She just gave you a look. She punched you in the face with her eyes. So if I get any of this wrong, you can correct it, and then I'll correct you. Correcting me.

[Jen Hobby]

Not exclusively dating anybody.

[Jeff]

But you think that you can see that there's definitely a guy that you should be exclusive with at this point, particularly in time, maybe eventually, like tomorrow. And that. That made me so angry because there was.

[Jen Hobby]

I love sharing my life on the show, Burt. By the way, this is really gonna make it easy for you to Come in those post show meetings and say, you know, bring out the intimate parts of your life. Jen, really, you're not sharing enough with us? Well, this is exactly why there's a

[Burt]

show that doesn't do that. It's called Stephen. Vicky, you should.

[Jeff]

You know what? You thought you were safe. Cause I was not.

[Caller]

I know.

[Jen Hobby]

It was so much easier to talk about my dating life when you weren't here. Jen, it's just gonna make dating easier, trust me. Oh, right. Very easy. Right? Because all the ones I'm currently dating are gonna bail.

[Caller]

Right?

[Burt]

Cause they don't realize they're in a very distant second. Third.

[Jeff]

No, they don't. They're all gonna think they're the lead horse. And this is why it frustrated me so much. Cause there was a time where it was a couple months ago and Jen. Jen had a friend in from out of town that I also know. And like half a dozen of us end up for one beer at like noon at some tiny little random bar, right? And it's 7:30 at night now we're all in a restaurant together with like three bottles of wine on the table. And I become the wise man on the mountain, right?

[Jen Hobby]

Oh, of course. He was harsh.

[Burt]

Tough low.

[Jeff]

And I got tough low to you.

[Jen Hobby]

He was really harsh. Yes.

[Jeff]

And one of the things I said was, you are. And Melissa brought this term up yesterday, a serial monogamist.

[Burt]

Nothing wrong with that.

[Jeff]

Well, here's the problem is with that is you said one of the things you said yesterday, and I wish I had known the sentence was coming so I could go listen back to it and get the exact line. But you said something yesterday that you're like, there's just one that I like more than the others, right?

[Jen Hobby]

Right now, yeah.

[Jeff]

Which is fair. But if you commit to that one and get the ring that you're hoping for.

[Jen Hobby]

Well, that is not true.

[Jeff]

Stop saying that. If you commit to that one, right? Then you never get a chance to sample any. There's 2 million guys in this city, depending on who you're talking to. The ratio is 72 to 4 and, well, you know, whatever. But there's a zillion. There's a lot of items on the buffet.

[Jen Hobby]

That's true.

[Jeff]

A lot. And right now you're just at the bacon, sausage, ham station, right? And you've decided that you. I haven't decided really like the bacon. But you haven't even gone down to where the crepes are.

[Jen Hobby]

No, I think Jen's at the filet. I mean, she's got A filet. And then there's a couple of, like, mashed potatoes and some green beans on the plate. But the filet is the best, right?

[Burt]

So if you've got this grade A piece of meat right, why would you go with B, C and D meats?

[Jeff]

Because it's. I think when Jen was married, she got married at 13 or engaged at 13 or whatever, but was in one relationship since the dawn of time and then got into another one or whatever. And at one point I heard some crap yesterday of her saying, oh, there was four months between. Whatever. Liar.

[Jen Hobby]

To yourself.

[Jeff]

Four months. Show those to me on a calendar. And then give me. And give me your cell phone bill, too, so I can line some stuff up. Liar. So the entire time. So all I'm saying is you spent one whole. You're at the breakfast buffet. You spent a big chunk of your life having alphabets every morning.

[Caller]

Right?

[Jen Hobby]

Right.

[Jeff]

Then you spent some time since then going back and forth between scrambled eggs and some pancakes. Right? You had some scrambled eggs in there for a minute, then you went to pancakes for a while, and now you've moved on.

[Jen Hobby]

Now I'm ready for sausage.

[Jeff]

To sausage. But you've moved on.

[Jen Hobby]

Just kidding. That was too easy.

[Burt]

Right?

[Jen Hobby]

Okay.

[Jeff]

But that's where now. So you're moving down the buffet and you're at that little section, that little sausage whatever section. But there's so much more. There's so. Look down there.

[Jen Hobby]

Pastries.

[Jeff]

And don't you see the donuts?

[Jen Hobby]

Orange juice. The donuts are bloody married.

[Jeff]

What about the little toaster station? You haven't even got through the little kilveyor bell.

[Burt]

But her point is, if she is right now happy with grade A sausage, then why go ahead with the other stuff if she's so content with grade A sausage?

[Jeff]

She hasn't even tasted the French toast.

[Jen Hobby]

She doesn't like it.

[Jeff]

She hasn't even tasted it. She doesn't know that. She doesn't know that there's some things

[Jen Hobby]

you just don't like.

[Jeff]

She is declaring, name a place in the world that you've never been to India.

[Melissa]

Yes.

[Jeff]

She's right now saying, I hate India. Based on what? I hate traveling to India.

[Caller]

Really?

[Jeff]

If somebody came to you and said that sentence, if, Bert, I came to you and said, I hate traveling to India, you would say to me, how can you say that you've never been to India? And I'm like, I know, but I have been to South Carolina, and I know India sucks based on South Carolina

[Burt]

isn't the better analogy that she'd like to travel in the world, but she's landed in Italy, and she's like, you know what? I'm content here.

[Jeff]

Welcome to Holland.

[Burt]

I don't need to see anything else. Italy's great. It's fantastic.

[Jen Hobby]

I'm not saying that, by the way. All I was saying yesterday was that it's difficult for women, I think, to date multiple people at the same time. I agree with that. That's all I was saying is that I am. But it's not necessarily the easiest decision to make. And we had guys call up and say that if the lead horse knows you're dating somebody else, it doesn't always mean they're going to be more interested.

[Burt]

We have to talk in generalizations here.

[Jeff]

Right, But I'm not. I'm not talking about.

[Burt]

And the generalization is that in the beginning of a relationship, if you're juggling a couple of different dudes, if the lead horse knows that you're not available because you're out on a date with somebody else, it just makes you the hotter commodity.

[Jen Hobby]

But see, we had calls yesterday saying that's not the case if you.

[Jeff]

But this is. We're talking about two separate things. Like, I don't envy being a girl and having to date a lot of guys, because that is. I think there's an internal thing in women where they got to be monogamous and whatever. So if that's like, that's tough. Like, I think that's really tough for women to handle the way guys date. You know, like, see one person on Thursday, another person on Friday, another person on Saturday and not feel guilty about it. Or slutty. And depending on how far you went

[Burt]

with them, she's comfortable with that.

[Jen Hobby]

Right?

[Jeff]

So I think that's two different things. The problem is, like, I think right now you're looking at the limited selection. You're looking through a crack in the fence. You're looking at the little short part of that buffet. You're looking at that right there, and you're saying, God, this right here is great. This is what I want. But you just. You have to turn your head and look down.

[Burt]

But what if it.

[Jen Hobby]

But why? So that I can be single forever? No, I mean, dude, I'm 32. Like, I'm not Wendy's age. Like, Jen's on the move.

[Jeff]

Melissa, Burt. Which one of you want to address the 32 reference as being very old?

[Jen Hobby]

Yeah, I'm not saying that it's old. I'm just saying that, like, I don't want to Date for forever.

[Burt]

What?

[Jeff]

How about. I don't know, let's not go with forever. I didn't. Let's go 5 months, 12 months, 1 year.

[Burt]

How do you know there's not somebody with greater air sausage er out there?

[Jen Hobby]

I don't. I don't. And I'm not making that decision yet. I'm dating multiple people right now. She's just the lead person.

[Jeff]

Right, right.

[Jen Hobby]

Who?

[Jeff]

I'm. I'm just. I think.

[Burt]

Do you have dates set up with multiple people this weekend?

[Jen Hobby]

Bert, you're not allowed to ask me those questions on the air.

[Burt]

I'm just trying to establish if you're seeing just lead horse this weekend or not.

[Jeff]

That means she is.

[Melissa]

She can't say. Well, she can't because you're not talking. I'll defend her on that because they may be listening, and that's what I'm trying to say.

[Burt]

They may be listening, but it's okay. I'll respect that.

[Melissa]

Let me ask one question. When you go out with one, do you call lead horse after you're on the dates with the others? Okay.

[Jen Hobby]

No.

[Melissa]

Because when you're at that point kind

[Jeff]

of getting defensive, she texts them from

[Jen Hobby]

under the table, like, give you my calendar schedule.

[Burt]

Yeah, I would like your calendar schedule.

[Melissa]

No, she can't talk about.

[Jeff]

What she's saying is if she says yes or no and she is seeing any one of them this weekend, they'll know. Or multiple. Then they're all going to think that they're the yes or the no. She can't answer that.

[Burt]

And what I'm saying is, even if they know that you're dating other people, it's still going to be okay because you're in this very new part of the relationship.

[Melissa]

But I think Jen wants to make that decision on her own instead of doing it on the air, just spontaneously

[Jeff]

instead of letting Jeff make it for her.

[Caller]

Right.

[Melissa]

But no, the reason I asked that question is because we talked yesterday and I said that I'm a serial monogamist. And when I was, you know, started to date Katie Jo, I was seeing other women. And I knew the moment I knew that I needed to cut the other ones loose was as I was leaving one date, I called Katie. So that's when I knew that, look, if I'm calling her after the date, then what's the point of me spending the past two hours with that other person? And what we established yesterday is there's serial monogamy in which I admitted that I am that person. And then there's women who Are not. And so different women are comfortable with different things. And so what we were giving Jen a hard time about was just saying one thing.

[Jeff]

Being able to admit it.

[Melissa]

That's it.

[Jeff]

My thing is, I think mine truly comes from, believe it or not, a place of friendship where I think you owe it to yourself to take a period of time to not even think that one person is a lead horse. I don't know how you do it.

[Jen Hobby]

I appreciate that advice. No, I definitely do. I take that to heart. I know that I have always been from a relationship to another relationship. There's definitely something that scares me about that.

[Jeff]

Jen and I. This is awkward, too, because we normally have these conversations after the book club when we drink our bottle of wine and I'm helping her clean up from what we baked.

[Jen Hobby]

So this is.

[Jeff]

You know, it's weird to have this girl talk on the radio, but I

[Burt]

have a funny feeling.

[Jen Hobby]

Oh, and trust me, after some. Some beers at the restaurant where we were, Jeff was much more harsh than he has been this morning.

[Burt]

Is that right? He was really coming down on you.

[Jen Hobby]

He was really, really harsh. I woke up the next day like, ouch.

[Burt]

It obviously worked.

[Jen Hobby]

Ouch.

[Burt]

The bird show.

[Caller]

Get it?

[Burt]

The bird show. So last night we got to meet the Burt's Big Adventure 2010 Families for the very first time. And we meet up every year at. Imagine it. About four or five weeks before the trip starts.

[Jen Hobby]

That's the Children's Museum downtown.

[Burt]

Yeah, it's a great place if you. If you. If you haven't been yet. And we get to meet the families and we get to educate the parents on what the trip is all about. And it's a great night for us because now these names are people and their stories become real. And we've got another stellar group going this year.

[Jen Hobby]

Oh, there's some amazing kids last night. I enjoyed hanging out with all of them last night, especially these two girls.

[Burt]

Cute.

[Jen Hobby]

Cameron and Kaylee.

[Jeff]

Wendy, you need to have kids, like, yesterday.

[Jen Hobby]

I know. You are very maternal.

[Jeff]

Yeah, she doesn't. She doesn't want kids, though.

[Jen Hobby]

No, I don't want kids right now. I don't know if I ever want kids. But I love children to pieces.

[Burt]

These two kids that Wendy is talking about right now, I'm not exactly sure the name of the condition they have, but I believe those are the two kids that can get a fracture like that. Like, each of them have gone through, like, 60 or 50 fractures, so if they just move wrong in a chair, they get a fracture.

[Jen Hobby]

Whoa.

[Burt]

And they've had I don't know. Is it called Brittle Bone, something like that? I don't have the applications right here in front of me, but yeah, I mean, think about that. I mean, when we talk about Burt's Big Adventure, we say that we take children down to Disney World that have chronic and terminal illnesses. So these are kids that are sick from day one or every day. This mom is like, she's got to be nervous all day long.

[Caller]

Of course.

[Burt]

All day long. So the trip really is for the entire family. We just got a bunch of great kids. We've got one story, unfortunately. We found out a couple of days ago that the mom on the trip, 40 years old, just found out that she's dealing with stage four cancer.

[Jen Hobby]

You're kidding.

[Burt]

40 years old?

[Jen Hobby]

Oh, man.

[Caller]

Awful.

[Burt]

So that family, you know, I said to my wife Stacy the other day, sometimes we don't know why the families are picked until something like this happens, and then we realize why they. They're on the trip. You know what I'm saying?

[Jen Hobby]

Yeah.

[Burt]

It's like. I mean, it's sort of a complicated application process, and after we found that out, obviously, it made sense why they're on the trip. So we've got a bunch of great families. There are 13 families that are going again on Burt's Big Adventure this year. And as I say, every year, this trip is not going to get any bigger than it is at 13 families. We purposely keep it this small because we, as a staff, want to get to know them. We want to hang out with them in the parks. We want to eat with them. We don't want them just to be numbers or hotel rooms. We really want to get our hands dirty and connect with these families and make sure they're connecting with each other. Because I know there are two other organizations in the country that take a similar trip, but in my opinion, the trip has gotten so big that they sort of say, okay, we're taking you to Disney World, and then the gates open, and then the families are on their own. That's not our trip.

[Jen Hobby]

No, we're definitely all paired up with different families. We've got a great medical staff that gives lots of close attention to them, and we've been to Disney every single year. So we're kind of Disney experts at this point. We can tell them which way to maneuver around the park to see the most things and where to go to meet these type of characters or where to go to meet the princesses and that kind of thing. So we try to serve as Disney ambassadors as we're down there and help them maneuver through the parks and that kind of thing. So they really get the most out of their days down there at Walt Disney World. And they're not, you know, standing in line the entire time.

[Burt]

Here is Leo. Good morning, Leo. You're on Q100.

[Caller]

Hey, good morning, Burt and Burt's show. But, yeah, the disease I think you're talking about is osteoinfector. Samuel Jackson played it in a wheelchair

[Jeff]

opposite of the guy.

[Caller]

Pulp Fiction.

[Melissa]

Unbreakable.

[Caller]

Unbreakable.

[Burt]

Well, yeah, that's the movie.

[Caller]

Okay, Just give you an update. That's all.

[Burt]

All right, thanks. Thank you. I mean, it's funny. You talk to the parents about what their children have, and at some point, some of the parents, they click in from, like, mommy mode almost into, like, doctor or nurse mode. It feels like you're talking to a doctor. So I'm sure the mom will come on and she'll tell us exactly what. They've had so many surgeries. And just imagine, every day you're around your child, you're nervous that they're gonna get hurt somehow, some way. When you have a child that's had 50 different fractures or 60 different fractures, you're a nervous wreck. Right?

[Jen Hobby]

No kidding. Well, and, you know, every time we talk about Burt's Big Adventure and we start getting into sort of the lead up to the trip, listeners want to know what they can do and how they can help and maybe how they can donate money or donate things that we need for the trip. And that kind of stuff is that list online.

[Burt]

You can go to Burt's bigadventure.org and have a wish list up there. I mean, money. I could always use money.

[Jen Hobby]

Right.

[Burt]

But if you want to give us other stuff, like, let's see, we've had a need in the past for phone cards. We've had a need in the past for, like, sunblock, smaller items. Like, if you don't have a lot of money to give, but you want to give something, the whole list is up online.

[Jen Hobby]

Yeah, it's all kinds of stuff because we just spoil them rotten. We have backpacks full of different, like, toys and games and things to keep the kids busy while we're traveling and en route to Disney World. So if you want to participate in that way, it's up on.

[Burt]

Let's introduce you to some of these families that are going on Burt's Big Adventure 2010. Because you guys are the ones that have paid for them. Right? This is the trip. I mean, this is all 13 families right here. And what I do is I call them a couple of weeks beforehand and I tell them they're going on the trip. And here's the reactions from some of the families. Hey, Latoya, it's bert calling from Q100 and Bert's big Adventure again.

[Caller]

Hi.

[Burt]

Can you tell me what Tremaine has and how it affects him every single day?

[Caller]

Tremaine has intestinal lyshangiectasia. Basically, the meals that he eat, he kind of loses them through his gut.

[Burt]

And you were telling me that. I mean, this kid could really use a break. His dad passed away, right?

[Caller]

Yes, in 2006. I mean, holidays are just really, really hard for us.

[Burt]

Well, I think I have a gift for you to share with your family today that's gonna make it easier to be a little bit more positive.

[Caller]

Really?

[Burt]

Yeah. You guys have been selected to go to Disney World on Burt's Big Adventure.

[Caller]

Oh, my God. Are you serious?

[Burt]

Totally serious. We're taking all you guys to Disney World, and we're taking the family. We're gonna pay for everything. You won't have to worry about a thing all weekend.

[Caller]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Thank you so much.

[Burt]

Hey, Jacob, It's Bert from Q100 and Burt's Big Adventure. Hey, Bert, how's Dominic doing?

[Caller]

He's doing well. He went to school.

[Jeff]

We held him out of school yesterday

[Caller]

because he was just feeling a little down.

[Burt]

Weren't you telling me, like, he had some kind of crazy amount of surgeries like that first. The first year that he had the kidney problems.

[Caller]

I mean, seriously, he probably had in his lifetime. He's probably about 20 or 30 different surgeries.

[Jeff]

Yeah, he.

[Caller]

He's a go, go, go, go type kid.

[Jeff]

And, you know, we have to get

[Caller]

him to do something else to take his mind off of, like, going out

[Jeff]

and running around if he's not feeling well.

[Burt]

Well, then I'm afraid that I have a very, very big challenge to present you today.

[Caller]

Okay.

[Burt]

I don't know how you're gonna get him to stop running when he's at Disney World. Cause you guys have been selected as a Burt's Big Adventure family.

[Caller]

Are you kidding me?

[Burt]

You guys are going to Disney World?

[Caller]

Oh, my gosh, dude. That is freaking amazing.

[Burt]

Hey, Rebecca, It's Burt from Q100 and Burt's big Adventure.

[Jen Hobby]

Uh huh.

[Burt]

How's Braden doing?

[Caller]

He's actually doing good for the past week.

[Burt]

You sound kind of surprised by that.

[Caller]

He's just normally sick all the time, on and off.

[Burt]

When he wakes up in the morning, he knows he's not gonna feel great. I mean, what does that do to his attitude?

[Caller]

Well, that's all he knows is being sick. And so he, you know, as he wakes up, feeling he's like, mama, I don't feel good. Can I stay home today?

[Burt]

Well, I'll tell you this. A funny thing happens when you're down at Disney World. Kids that normally aren't feeling good all day long for whatever reason, when they're at Disney, all of a sudden, they act like healthy kids for four days. And I'm pretty sure that's what's gonna happen to Braden also, because you guys have been selected to be a family for Burt's Big Adventure.

[Caller]

Awesome. Do you know what he says every time we put a Disney movie in? He's like, mom, I want to go see that castle. Oh, my gosh.

[Burt]

Hey, Vanessa, It's Bert from Q100 and Burt's Big Adventure. Hey, how's angel today?

[Caller]

She's doing good. She had a bad morning.

[Burt]

What's a bad morning when you're talking about Angel?

[Caller]

Yesterday she fell, and they had to do an X ray on her device.

[Burt]

What's that device that you were telling me about? Because this is pretty advanced stuff right

[Caller]

here, sort of like a curtain rod. It attaches to the upper part of her shoulder blade, to the lower part of her ribs. It kind of helps her as she grows. It helps her lungs and all her internal organs so they won't collapse on her.

[Burt]

Well, Vanessa, I can tell you this. You can put all this stuff behind you, because you guys have been selected to go down to Disney World on Burt's Big Adventure.

[Caller]

Thank you. Thank you so much.

[Burt]

Hey, Jessica. It's Burt at Q100 in Burt's Big Adventure.

[Caller]

Hi.

[Burt]

How is Madison doing?

[Caller]

Great.

[Burt]

Tell me again exactly what Madison has.

[Caller]

Spina bifida, where she has a hole in her back and her spinal cord outside.

[Burt]

Okay, and she's how old?

[Caller]

5.

[Burt]

And how does that work at school with other kids? Are they pretty cool to her?

[Caller]

They all love her. She is the only child with, like, really special needs up at the school. So it's a. It's a new experience for all of them.

[Burt]

Well, I'm calling to tell you today that you guys are gonna be able to experience Disney World together.

[Caller]

Are you serious?

[Burt]

Yeah. You guys are going on Burt's Big Adventure?

[Caller]

Thank you so much.

[Burt]

Hey, Heather, It's Burt from Q100 and Burt's big Adventure.

[Caller]

Yes, sir.

[Burt]

How's Hunter doing today?

[Caller]

He's anxious on Fridays. Cause he has to do his shot in the afternoon. He wanted to wake up and it be Saturday, so he kept asking if he could skip the day, but other than that, he was doing all right.

[Burt]

Well, today is Friday as I'm making this call right now, and I know he's all bummed out. He's got to make that shot.

[Caller]

Yes, sir.

[Burt]

But you can give him good news when the shot is over, and you could tell him that you and he and the whole family have been selected to go to Disney World on Burt's Big Adventure.

[Caller]

Oh, that is so awesome. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Burt]

He's going to need to hear that today.

[Caller]

Oh, yeah. That was awesome. Oh, that's awesome. He'll enjoy that. He has no clue about any of it. I hadn't even told him.

[Burt]

Hi, is this Christina?

[Caller]

Yes.

[Burt]

Hey, It's Bert from Q100 and Burt's Big Adventure. Oh, hey, tell me about both of your kids. Both Kali and Cameron.

[Caller]

They both have osteogenesis imperfecta, which is brittle bones. Cameron just. Kaylee fell out of a chair and broke her. Her leg, like, sliding down on the couch. Cameron broke her collarbone. You know, simple things for us that we do could be harmful to them.

[Burt]

Well, Christina, I'm really calling today to let you know that you've got real good info to pass on to your kids when you get home today. You guys have been selected to go to Disney World on Burt's Big Adventure.

[Caller]

Oh, thanks. I'm very excited.

[Burt]

Hey, Sandra, It's Bert at Q100 and Burt's big Adventure.

[Caller]

Oh, hey, Bert, tell me again what

[Burt]

Stephen has and explain exactly what that is.

[Caller]

He was born with spina bifida. Essentially, that's when he's in the womb and the skin is closing up around the spinal column. For some reason, his didn't. But he's only 12 years old, and then he has learning and emotional difficulties. So he looks like big, handsome teenager, but he acts like he's 6 or 7.

[Burt]

Well, you tell him he's one of the dream. He's had the dream to go to Disney World, and I'm calling you guys today to tell you that dream is going to happen because you guys are going on Burt's Big Adventure.

[Caller]

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my goodness. That is just amazing.

[Burt]

So you promised him this was going to be his year. This is gonna be his year. He's going to Disney World.

[Caller]

This is so awesome, because we didn't even have money to get him anything for Christmas.

[Burt]

Hey, Steven, you excited about going down to Disney World.

[Caller]

Yes. I'm so excited, I almost jumped out of my seat when I. Oh, thank you so much,

[Jen Hobby]

precious.

[Burt]

Yes, they all are. So those are the kids, and those are the families that you are paying to send on down to Burke's Big Adventure. And that's Dominique Alexander. He's 5 years old, and he's from Atlanta. Samin Badai, age 12 years old, from Woodstock. They're actually originally from Iran. They don't speak a lot of English. We've got ania Bennett, age 5 years old, from Atlanta. Casey Clemens, from Douglasville. Louis Kushni, age 5, going on 23. This is the cutest kid. Wait till you guys get to know him on the radio. He is. He will be the spokesperson probably for Burt's Big Adventure for the next 10 years. And he's only five years old. We've got Steven Hobson going on the trip. Hey, Steven. Big old Chargers fan. That's why he's going. Riley Cobalt, 10 years old from Monroe. Braden Plemons, age 5, from Rome. They actually had to stay downtown last night. We put him up. Burt's Big Adventure put them up downtown because they couldn't get back to Rome because of all the snow.

[Jen Hobby]

I should have done the same thing.

[Burt]

You still have your car today?

[Jeff]

Crashed on their couch.

[Burt]

Kaylee Prisk, she's seven years old from Stockbridge. She's the girl that we were telling you about that just gets, like, fractures like that. Hunter Pruitt is 6, from Cumming. Madison Shipley, 6 years old, from Waleska. TJ Walter from Norcross. And Angel Williams, she's 5 years old. Forest park, that is Burt's Big Adventure 2010. You guys are gonna fall in love with these guys. So we will officially introduce you to them in February. We told them last night, this is the longest 40 days of your life right here. Definitely telling your kids you're going to Disney World and you gotta wait 40 days.

[Jen Hobby]

Well, at least all the kids got those countdown clocks. They cannot ask their parents every single day. Parents, you can stay. Look at your clock.

[Burt]

Yeah. Icebox put together these great countdown clocks, and they digitally count back now to the exact moment that we're leaving for Disney. So, yeah, they really clutched up for us. You're on the Birch Show. Listen, it's the Bird Show. If you guys missed the update, the brief update that I gave these guys yesterday on this reality TV show, here's where the whole thing stands. Before we left for vacation, I was approached by the creator of a reality TV show that also created Housewives of Atlanta and Housewives of Orange county. And she said she is putting together a reality TV show here in Atlanta and she's looking for a bunch of dudes. And she wanted me to consider being on the. On the show Boys Club.

[Jen Hobby]

Atl, right?

[Burt]

Yup. And she came over to my house before vacation and Stacy and I did a on camera interview that I felt like when she left, I thought, you

[Melissa]

know what, things went pretty well.

[Burt]

We really opened up there. And then we didn't really have. I don't know, there wasn't. We just opened up. It really wasn't very difficult for us. So I thought, you know, there may be a shot where she actually calls back and she says, look, you've got a tough decision to make. So since we've been backstage and I've been talking about it a little bit, just in case we do get the call saying, look, we want you as part of this reality TV show. And my wife has maintained that she wants to see the contract before we make any decision whatsoever, before we can even really start having hefty debate on it, is you gotta see that contract. Like, like, can you boot him out of the house if you want. Do you have creative control over anything whatsoever? She wants to see that contract, right?

[Jeff]

Did you just choke?

[Jen Hobby]

Yeah, I choked on my coffee. Because the answer to that is no.

[Burt]

Well, there's a little wiggle room on there. Jeff sent me this article about a week ago from cnn. And the title of the article is the Real World of Reality Show Contracts. And I could read a lot of it verbatim, but it basically says what you were choking on is, man, it's all gone. You get on camera there and they have complete control of what they want to do. It says while the needs and issues for each show are unique, a typical contract includes 100 reasons why you can't sue, said Eric Goldman, an assistant professor who teaches contract law at Santa Clara. They're also going to try and say if you're creative enough to come up with the 101st reason, you can't sue for that either. These contracts are usually all encompassing in their efforts to get participants to waive rights to release claims. You have to sit there in all of your paranoia and think about what possibly could happen if the worst disaster in the world happened. And you have to disclose that in a way so they know what they're waiving and you don't get sued. So basically what this is saying is you just have to absolutely assume that they have your brand. They are marketing you. They could Take the smallest thing that happens in your day, and they can shape it and form it any way they want. There's nothing you can do about it.

[Jeff]

Does that bother you? The brand part of it? Like the fact that you have built a brand as Bert Weiss and they can completely alter that brand on a national scale in three months that you've built for in Atlanta for since 2001.

[Burt]

Of course it scares me. Sure, it's something I thought about. But I also think that if I want to believe that if what you're doing is authentic, then how can they truly manipulate it? But I did give you guys a couple examples the other day of how it certainly can be manipulated. You know, I have one meltdown at an employee, and all of a sudden I can be branded as, you know, the harsh boss or whatever or the crappy dad. Cause I'm only hanging out with my kids, you know, for 30 minutes or 45 minutes on a Tuesday night. You know, I.

[Jeff]

Actually you told a story a week or two ago about. Or a couple. Well, I haven't been around for a while. You told a story last month that. About a. Where they filmed a woman in a bar changing a light bulb when the bar was empty. And she fell off the bar stool and, like, sat on the floor and laughed. And they edited that to make it look like she was dancing on the bar stool when the bar was open and was hammered and fell on the ground and was laughing about it.

[Burt]

Yeah, her storyline was she was the cast drunk. So they totally manipulated the situation and continued to make her look that way. Even though it was shot in the middle of the day. They made it look like it was night and she was in a club.

[Jeff]

I heard another. I told someone that story because I thought that was really interesting. And they said they had a friend who was on a reality television show, and the reality television show was about. There was a woman, but her husband was a peripheral cast member, whatever that word is. And they would film. He was hard of hearing. And so they would film him talking to attractive women, but he would lean way in every time. And he did that to everybody. So you.

[Jen Hobby]

If.

[Jeff]

If I had a conversation with him, he would lean. He would apologize and say, I have a difficult time hearing, and I haven't given into a hearing aid yet. And he would lean in, and you would have to talk if you're in a loud place. They only showed him doing that to attractive women. Then showed the wife footage of that, and she called them on it and said, you were manipulating the footage. So Then they went in and found footage of him talking to unattractive women and guys in not loud places where he never leaned in and showed her the two pieces back to back.

[Caller]

Wow.

[Jeff]

And they only found out about it, like, a year later when one of the producers admitted fully said, yeah, that's what they manipulate that. So it looked like. So she went nuts on camera and off. And it was a significant issue for them. Like, he slept on the couch for a while, and he's like, I swear to God, I do it with everybody.

[Burt]

I could see it could make the strongest couples, like, really question what's going on. You know? This article continues to go on and says the network needs to be able to exploit the material for their purposes. Like you just said, there's a big investment in these shows, and they need to be able to use the material typically in perpetuity. When you agree to that, you're also wholeheartedly agreeing to the prospect of being portrayed in an unfavorable light. So they could really do whatever they want with it. Because of that, it's essential that the participant gives a full and complete release of any claims arising. Now, here's the only thing in the article that gave me a little bit of hope, because being on the radio, there's a certain. There's a small amount, but it's a. There is an amount of celebrity attached to this. And unless you're already a celebrity, you don't really have much leverage when it comes to your contract at all. Now, this is gonna be a national show. So on a national stage, nobody knows who I am. Most people in Atlanta still don't know who I am. But within our community here, if she really wanted me on the show that badly, there might be some wiggle room. I don't know. It's not something I've talked to her about yet. So I don't know.

[Jen Hobby]

What's the percentage of you getting cast?

[Burt]

I really don't have any idea. Based on the text messages that I read you guys yesterday, it felt like she wanted to, but I think she's got to run it by a whole bunch of people out in California. So I have no idea. I don't think anybody that has been. Has auditioned for it has been called yet. Okay. Because we're all pretty tight, and I think we would have called each other. So I don't think there's no way of knowing right now. So it just could be a whole bunch of words and no update. Hey, Michelle, Good morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller]

Hey, guys, my. One of my concerns is, like, I don't agree with the whole franchise of the Real Housewives because I'm a housewife, and my life is so 180 degrees from what those women do. Is it on the same premise? Like, are they going to make you be shallow like these women seem to be? I know there's a lot of editing, but you do a lot of good stuff for the community. And, well, they can't.

[Burt]

They can't make you something you're not. Like, I am never gonna get into. At least my intention is never to get into a fist fight in the middle of a bar. That's just not in my makeup. It's not in my makeup to have shouting matches in public. I don't think I've ever done that with a guy, ever.

[Jen Hobby]

What happened when you and Mark went to the football game this year?

[Jeff]

Got thrown out of a bar.

[Burt]

I got drunk at a bartender that I didn't know and I yelled at him. So it's happened one time and you

[Jeff]

got thrown out of a bar?

[Burt]

Yeah, and I did get thrown out.

[Jen Hobby]

So they would turn that into something.

[Burt]

Oh, yeah, that would be great for them, right?

[Jeff]

That'd be a whole.

[Caller]

That's the bad thing. Because you do. You're a whole different type of person than what their franchise is about. And I just. I don't know. I hope they don't try to spin it into a shallow light.

[Burt]

Look, there. There has to be some spin on it, and there has to be some drama to it. There has to be, or they wouldn't put all the money in to create the show. And their hope going into season one is you're gonna be so intrigued that there's a season two. So they're gonna have to come up with some reasons to make it dramatic. Now, there are other guys that I know that they're talking to on the show that have more of a dramatic lifestyle than I do. They are more emotional than I am. They have. What's the word I'm looking for? Just a shorter fuse than I do. So they may get that from some guys. And I'd be cast in a different role.

[Melissa]

And think about the Real Housewives of Atlanta. I mean, you know, Nene and Kim are like the main characters that, you know, fight. But then there are a couple on there that are the peacemakers that are ended up in the middle of their drama all the time and have to talk to them and talk to them and talk to them that aren't cast in a bad light. So you know, there is the possibility, just playing devil's advocate, that you would not be the bad guy. You'd actually be the guys. Come on, let's, you know, calm down.

[Jen Hobby]

Peacemaker. Yeah, could be.

[Jeff]

But they don't cast you for no reason. They don't cast a peacemaker. They cast.

[Jen Hobby]

I have a feeling, though, with the way that Burt and Stacy have been feeling about the whole thing, that if you are cast, if you are presented with it and it's like, okay, if you want it, it's yours. I think you guys are having a really hard time turning it down.

[Jeff]

Yeah. You're gonna do it.

[Burt]

Why?

[Jeff]

I just.

[Burt]

I don't know.

[Jeff]

It's the vibe I get.

[Burt]

Because it's like, I really am not leaning either way.

[Jen Hobby]

Exciting opportunity.

[Burt]

Stacy seems a little bit more excited about it than I am, I gotta tell you. Actually, a lot more excited about it than I am. So I don't know. We should probably know something over the next couple of weeks, though, and then we'll really have to sit down and really discuss it, because then it gets serious. But at this time, it's still just a whole bunch of fantasy and sort of damage control before there's any answer at all. So we'll keep you guys posted. This is the Birch Show.

[Jeff]

This is the Birch Show.

[Jen Hobby]

I've never been a gun person. I never liked guns. I have always been kind of scared of them, to be honest with you. I didn't grow up around them, and so I've always been frightened of them. And always. My opinion on guns was always pretty negative and, you know, pretty, pretty opinionated when it came to people with children, having them in the house and all these other kinds of things. But something happened to me over Christmas holiday that really changed my mind. I actually shot a gun for the very first time over the Christmas holidays. I was with a bunch of friends, and we were at a river house in North Florida, right on the Chipola River. And they've got, like, this big, huge property, lots of acreage out there, and they've got all kinds of hunting stuff going on out there. So they do, like, quail hunts and duck hunts and deer hunts and all this stuff on this property where we were staying. So I went out there with some friends, and actually, one of my best friend's husbands was like, have you ever shot a gun before? And I was like, no. And he's like, come on, let's go. So we went out, and it was just the clay pigeons. I don't think I could shoot anything that Was actually alive. But I shot a.22 and a shotgun, and I loved it.

[Burt]

Did you really?

[Jen Hobby]

I loved it. I couldn't believe it.

[Burt]

Did it kick as much as. I'm assuming it kicks like it jacks up your shoulder and all that?

[Jen Hobby]

Well, a.22 is, like, a little bit above a BB gun, so that one. No, not at all.

[Jeff]

Is that a handgun or is that a.

[Jen Hobby]

Like a long rifle? I know nothing about it.

[Melissa]

So when you say you shot a.22, he was 22. Rifle, rifle, not a handgun. Okay.

[Jen Hobby]

And then the other one was a shotgun, like, long one rifle. And that one definitely had some kickback, really. And I think he took a lot of pleasure in giving me that one. He was like, yeah, just try this one. And I said, well, is this one gonna be any different? He's like, nah, not much different. Then when I came back, I was, like, screaming all kinds of words I can't say on the radio.

[Burt]

He had a good laugh on that.

[Jeff]

Were you able to hit anything, like, when they were firing off the.

[Jen Hobby]

Yes. I actually got pretty good at the targets after a little while. Yeah. After a few rounds, I was, like, reloading it myself. The guys were bored with it and done, like, ready to go back. They were like, yeah, let's go drink beer. I'm like, come on, one more, one more, one more. Give me another round. Give me another round.

[Jeff]

That's awesome.

[Jen Hobby]

So it was weird. It, like, tapped into some sort of something, and I loved it. So now I want to go back and shoot more. And I feel like my. You know, my opinions on guns are, like, completely changing after that one experience now.

[Burt]

You were raised with guns, weren't you?

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Melissa]

I mean, my father, my brother had racks of rifles in the house, and, yeah, they hunted. And I learned how to shoot a gun, a bow and arrow and all that stuff in elementary school. And, yeah, I was raised with gun safety is, you know, because that's my biggest argument is gun safety. But, yeah, so I am totally comfortable with gun. Katie Jo and I have a gun in the house, so, I mean, we're totally comfortable with guns.

[Jen Hobby]

See, that still scares me. That would still scare me to have one in my house.

[Jeff]

I'd be nervous if I was Katie Jo. Cause you get heated sometimes.

[Melissa]

Have you seen Katie Jean?

[Jen Hobby]

That is true. I met my match.

[Jeff]

That's a valid point.

[Burt]

Have you ever shot a gun, Wendy?

[Jen Hobby]

I've never shot a gun. I'm too scared of guns. But I grew up with guns. My dad's a hunter. There's always rifles in the house. He was in the military, so I grew up around guns. I just don't like guns. I don't even want to be in the same room. But see, that's what I thought. That's exactly what I thought until I had one in my hand. And when I. When I first shot it, I was like, oh, wait a second. This is kind of cool. And then when I hit the first target and that clay pigeon blew up, I was like, oh, this is awesome.

[Melissa]

I'm Petchy. Yeah. Because many people. Guns is a sport. Like, everybody associates guns with crime with crime, but the majority of people use guns for sports.

[Burt]

Stacey is so anti. I'd love to have a gun in the house, but Stacy is so anti. Like, she won't let the kids play any kind of video games that have guns. She won't allow them to have toy guns in the house. When we were on the Disney cruise, seriously, Captain Hook gave Hayden a gun in his hand to take a picture with. And you could see the fear on Hayden's face because he knows he's not supposed to have his hands on a gun. That's how hardcore she is about it.

[Jen Hobby]

Has she ever shot a gun?

[Burt]

I don't think she has, which surprises me. I mean, because she's living, like, the middle of Pennsylvania, where that kind of thing, you know, it's pretty common.

[Jeff]

People shoot other people all the time.

[Jen Hobby]

I was scared of him. I was terrified of it. But after that experience, and, I mean, it was like one afternoon for maybe an hour, hour and a half, we were out there. And, I mean, I was like, it totally changed my world around. In that whole world, I want to, like, learn more. I want to go to a shooting range here and just, like, to be able to learn about it and be more educated about it. And I think that's why, Melissa, you're not scared of it because you've been around them. If you had your hands on them, you understand.

[Melissa]

But I understand the danger of them, too.

[Jen Hobby]

The danger and the safety and, you know, what you need to do to be safe around them and all that kind of stuff. I think the more you know about anything, the less you fear it.

[Melissa]

A gun is an extension of a person. So if that person is into sporting or that person is into crime, the gun is gonna. Is gonna be used for that purpose. The gun itself in your closet or on a rack or on the table or whatever is not gonna all of a sudden come to life and do something on its own. You know what I mean?

[Burt]

Here's Amber Good morning, amber. You're on Q100.

[Caller]

Hey, how are y'? All? Jeff, I'm glad you're back.

[Jeff]

Thank you.

[Caller]

I was calling to let y' all know that I think when a woman shoots a gun, she feels empowered. And then lots of times, because I was the same way Jen was and Wendy for a long time. And I'm divorced now, but when we. I used to go to the cabin and hunt with. Not hunt with my husband. But at the time, he let me shoot the gun, and it was awesome. I was like, Jim. I was like, oh, my God, this is just killer. And I was actually a better shot than he was. Never shot again. It's just like. I think it's just something with empowerment. You can do something that Amanda is. And you can do it as well as they are, if not better. So I think it's awesome. So, again, I understand exactly. I mean, I don't shoot a gun all the time, but it is awesome.

[Jen Hobby]

Yeah, I'm definitely getting into a shooting range here and learn more about it and that kind of thing. It blew my mind because I was so afraid. Like, that first shot that I took, I was so scared of it, I had to, like, put it down. And, like, I was, like, shaking my hands. I was like, okay, I can do this. I can do this. I can do this. And thank goodness. It was like, my best friend's husband that was there was like, just do it. I'm like, okay, I can do this.

[Burt]

Hey, Jason, Good morning. You are on Q100.

[Caller]

Hi. Yeah, I think a whole lot of people that have never shot guns or have never been around guns are just very scared because they don't know that, you know, gun safety comes along with having guns. It's not just going out and buying a gun. It's knowing how to be safe with a gun and then using that knowledge to be someone that can teach others how to be safe with guns and then go out and use effectively.

[Jen Hobby]

Well, I've been around guns, and I'm still freaked out even being around guns now. Like, I don't even want to be in the same room as a gun. I don't want to have to see a gun. I don't want to touch a gun. So I grew up with guns or in the household, and I'm still afraid, really. I think it would change if you actually fired one. I don't know if.

[Jeff]

I wish I could remember.

[Jen Hobby]

I don't even know if I could be in a shooting range. Come on.

[Jeff]

I wish I could remember the name of that place because those guys were great. Remember, I did it live on the air because I never fired a gun up until a couple years ago. And those were handguns.

[Jen Hobby]

That's what I wanna shoot next.

[Jeff]

Yeah, I'll try to find it. Cause I have a gift certificate Phil Turan actually gave me. Cause he went with me, remember? And he was like. He saw how much I loved it, so he gave me a gift certificate that I still have kicking around the house somewhere. So I'm gonna find that it was up in Marietta, right off Cobb Parkway. Like in a strip mall almost really. But the shooting range was like underground, you know, and you shoot in it.

[Melissa]

I have a feeling in Georgia there's a lot of shooting ranges. Yeah, strip mall.

[Jen Hobby]

There's a few options.

[Burt]

Frankly, I. You didn't have access to a gun the last couple of weeks.

[Jen Hobby]

Well, if I go, Wendy, would you come with me? Maybe. I don't. Yeah, I'm. I'm really petrified. Like somebody had one literally in their car and they had a license for it.

[Melissa]

I had to get out of the car.

[Jen Hobby]

That's how Stacey is.

[Melissa]

If Katie and I and Jen take you to a shooting range, would you go? Maybe I'll go.

[Jen Hobby]

I'd shake the entire time, but I'll. I, yeah, I'll go. Because I would just be interested to see that after you have one in your own hand, you actually shoot it yourself. If your opinion doesn't change, strange, you

[Burt]

know, you may turn into Rambo because you got. You got that in you. Sleep deprived than any of them. Knife in the mouth. It's the Birch Show.

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