Full Show PT 3: Tuesday, February 3 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show – Full Show PT 3: Tuesday, February 3 [Vault]

Aired: February 3, 2026
Host: Burt (+ cast: Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, Ashley, Jeff, Brian, Mandy, and callers)
Episode Theme:
This episode delves into relationships tested by adventurous travel, financial compromises in couples, safety in solo/global journeys, as well as an insightful debate on the double standards male teachers face in schools. The cast balances real-life drama, lighthearted storytelling, and listener input in its trademark humorous, candid style.

---

Main Segments & Discussion Highlights

1. Relationship & World Travel Adventure with Mandy & Brian

Timestamps: 00:00–14:10

Premise

• Mandy and Brian, a couple of 1.5 years, share their upcoming plans to sell their possessions and travel the world together—an adventure that will test both their relationship and practical planning skills.

Key Discussion Points

• Travel as a Relationship Stress Test
  • “If you can travel well together, you can do okay.” – Burt (00:24)
  • Jeff and Burt discuss how traveling together exposes the real dynamics of a couple, beyond first-date politeness.
• Mandy & Brian’s Journey
  • Attempted to leave earlier, but Mandy initially backed out due to anxiety about leaving everything behind; this led to a breakup and reconciliation.
  • Now, they're preparing to leave in May, actively working on finding a renter and pooling resources.
• Logistics & Finances
  • Pooling Money: Joint checking account to manage shared expenses, avoiding petty disputes – “We just put in equal amounts of money, and everything we buy on the trip comes out of that.” – Brian (05:50)
  • Budgeting Tensions: Discussion of the inevitable debates over spending, accommodations, and the need for compromise.
• Prior Travel Experience
  • A few trips together (Miami, Boston, a cruise, camping)—but nothing as extended or stressful as a world trip.
• Camping Anecdote
  • Mandy admits to misjudging a campsite location but notes, “We just had a lot of time to sit around and hang out... let’s play Yahtzee again…” (06:31)
  • Reflection that in long-term travel, minor annoyances may escalate.
• Advice and Concerns
  • Callers and hosts discuss travel insurance (AirMed, InsureMyTrip.com), importance of medical evacuation coverage, and parental anxieties.
• Family Dynamics
  • Mandy says her family finds the trip “cool and adventurous” in concept, but worry about her absence.
  • “They kind of admitted that it’s cool... but in that selfish, you know, kind of thing... we want you here with us.” – Mandy (09:53)
• Future Plans
  • Duration is open, aiming for "a year and a half" or until the money runs out.
  • A call for a home for their foster cat, with playful ribbing as Burt is (jokingly) volunteered to adopt it.

Notable Quotes

• “Once I get rid of everything, I’m kind of gone.” – Mandy (04:31)
• “If you’re talking to Verizon, see if you can get us out of our contract, too.” – Brian (12:31)
• “We have a cat to get rid of.” – Mandy (13:13)
• “We’ll find somebody to take your cat.” – Burt (13:45)

---

2. Debate: Double Standards for Male vs. Female Teachers

Timestamps: 14:10–29:10

Premise

• A discussion emerges around a news item: male teachers often face suspicion or stricter scrutiny regarding one-on-one interactions with students, compared to female teachers.

Key Discussion Points

• Male Teachers & Perceptions
  • Male teachers are encouraged never to be alone with students to avoid misinterpretation; often ask female colleagues to be present.
  • Male elementary teachers avoid physical contact (e.g., changing students’ clothes, hugging) due to fear of accusations.
  • “All it takes is one accusation and then their reputation’s done.” – Jeff (15:52)
• Are Women Trusted More?
  • Female teachers seen as naturally maternal and thus more trustworthy.
  • “I think absolutely the females need to be... trusted more.” – Sonya, caller (21:03)
• Counterpoints and Experiences
  • Teachers (Ashley, Gene) call in sharing school practices, personal vigilance (always having another adult within earshot), and the professional tension of being "always on... almost artificial and robotic." – Ashley (17:48)
  • Students (Whitney) share comfort with male teachers, perception of rumors in middle school, and greater ease in high school.
• Double Standard in Accusations
  • The group discusses how an accusation against a male teacher is seen as more believable than against a female teacher, reflecting broader societal stereotypes.
  • Noted increasing news reports about female teacher sexual misconduct with students.
• Staffroom Stories
  • Gene, a young male teacher, notes having seen both male and female colleagues act inappropriately, or make comments about students—nuancing the issue as not limited to gender.

Notable Quotes

• “I think that’s a crazy theory when it comes to little kids.” – Burt, responding to Sonya’s claim that men are inherently more sexual (21:15)
• “As a general rule, we see men and women differently.” – Jeff (26:13)

---

3. The 'That Guy' in the Friend Group

Timestamps: 29:10–35:10

Premise

• Burt recounts trying to organize a "low-key" night out to watch basketball, only to realize everyone has “that guy” in their social group who turns every outing into a party.

Key Discussion Points

• The Chain-Reaction Social Circle
  • Trying to avoid inviting the friend ("Justin") who takes things directly into fifth gear ("Shots are gonna be poured. We’re gonna be out late.").
  • Despite a careful guest list, someone inevitably extends the invitation, leading to escalating antics.
• Group Dynamics
  • “Justin is to me as I am to Don... Don knows when he goes out with me, it’s gonna be ugly.” – Burt (31:11)
  • Stories of office gatherings: Burt is "that guy" at the bar buying shots, reliving college energy even on work nights.
  • Group jokes about the challenge of keeping a drink tally on Burt, as he outlasts the counters.
• Self-Reflection
  • “I’m that guy. I don’t want to be it. You are what you are... It’s too late to change.” – Burt (35:01)
  • The cast teases each other about their own party "roles," providing a candid, familiar humor.

Memorable Moment

• “It goes from idle to game on at 10. Quickly. Two shots.” – Ashley (31:35)
• “You just give them the most out of them. You drink them under, and then you just keep going.” – Burt (34:53)

---

Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “If you can travel well together, you can do okay.” – Burt (00:24)
• “Once I get rid of everything, I’m kind of gone.” – Mandy (04:31)
• “We have a cat to get rid of.” – Mandy (13:13)
• “All it takes is one accusation and then their reputation’s done.” – Jeff (15:52)
• “I think that’s a crazy theory when it comes to little kids.” – Burt (21:15)
• “Justin is to me as I am to Don... Don knows when he goes out with me, it’s gonna be ugly.” – Burt (31:11)
• “I’m that guy. I don’t want to be it. You are what you are... It’s too late to change.” – Burt (35:01)

---

Takeaways

• Travel can stress-test relationships, revealing true dynamics and the need for deep compromises.
• Financial transparency and flexibility are key for extended adventures as a couple.
• Family and social networks have complicated, emotional responses to big lifestyle changes.
• Male educators face unique social and professional scrutiny, leading to defensive practices to safeguard reputations.
• Friend groups often feature archetypes (“the fun one,” “the responsible one”)—and self-awareness brings both laughter and humility.

Overall Tone:
Warm, honest, teasing, but always friendly—the cast and callers create a lively, relatable environment, whether discussing big life choices or the realities of the workweek hangover.

---

Useful for: New listeners seeking context, fans who missed the episode, or anyone interested in the interplay of relationships, risk, and social perceptions in everyday (and not-so-everyday) life.

Transcript

[Burt]

The Burt Show, Q100 and the Burt Show. It is 9:12. In a couple of seconds here, we'll talk to Mandy and Brian. They've had a dream to travel the world together. They're not married, and they're gonna travel. Like, even if you take a weekend with somebody you're just going out with, I think getting through that Weekend speaks Volume 0 about your relationship.

[Brian]

If you can travel well together, if.

[Burt]

You can travel well together, you can do okay.

[Jeff]

You have to. Yeah, you have to have a trip together to really know. Like I always say, in a new relationship, you have to have your first. Just to see how you fight, and you have to have a first trip. So you kind of get. Instead of. That's where the politeness kind of comes down. Like, when you first date, you're showing your giving your best foot forward or whatever, and so you're trying to be polite and sweet and say the right thing or whatever, but on a trip, you're worn down. You can't do it. And when you finally argue, then you kind of get some realness going on.

[Burt]

And it's all about give and take, too. One person generally wants to do one thing, the other person doesn't want to do it. And you have to give and take all the time. If you can travel well together, you'll be all right. So they have a dream to travel around the world together, and we just may be following along with them. All right, Mandy, Brian, you guys there?

[Mandy]

Yeah.

[Burt]

Hey, how you guys doing?

[Mandy]

Good. How are you?

[Burt]

Good. Mandy, it's been a while since we talked to you, so just refresh us a little bit on exactly why you guys haven't taken this trip yet and how long y' all been going out.

[Mandy]

Brian and I have been together probably about a year and a half now. And when we started dating, he had this idea of he wanted to travel, and I thought it was a great idea, so I just kind of tagged along. And as our relationship progressed, we got kind of serious about, okay, we're, you know, we're together when we're really going to do this. And so we had planned to leave back in September, and a few months before then I kind of chickened out and thought, oh, my God, I have so much I'm leaving behind. This is big. And I completely chickened out. And so we got, you know, he thought he was going to go, and we broke up for a little bit, and then he decided to stay, and we got back together. And then a little bit later, I thought, you know, I still Want to do this? I'm going to regret it if we don't. Let's just. Let's just do it. So we're now working towards getting rid of our stuff and getting out of here, hopefully in May.

[Burt]

Wow. So it's coming up quick. Brian, is there anything you want to add to the history of the relationship?

[Brian]

No, I think that pretty much covers it.

How long were you all broken up?

[Mandy]

It was just a couple months, right?

[Brian]

Yeah.

[Burt]

For what reason?

[Brian]

Because I was still gonna go and she decided to stay here.

[Burt]

Okay.

[Jeff]

And you just said, you know, you're getting things ready to go. What, what do you do? What's the process in getting ready for a trip around the world?

[Brian]

Like, there's so many things that you don't even think about. Like, the first thing you think about is, well, I gotta get rid of all my stuff and I gotta save up money. Like, that's what everybody thinks about. But then now we're dealing with, you know, I'm trying to track down yellow fever vaccine and we need to get insurance and all this other random stuff. You know, we gotta, like, set up an account to pull our money for the trip and that sort of thing.

Do you guys have it mapped out where you're gonna start and where you're gonna end?

We haven't mapped out where we're gonna start, but I think kind of the appeal of the trip is that it's sort of not set in stone. Right now we're sort of planning a few days around May 10, somewhere in there, catching a flight to Singapore and starting in Southeast Asia and then seeing where that takes us.

[Burt]

We gotta get you guys in touch with Susie. I mean, we did this same thing a couple of years ago with around the world. Susie, who was traveling the world as a single woman all by herself, and we followed her. Each week she would call in from a different corner of the earth and we would talk to her about what's going on, traveling as a woman. And what we want to do with these guys is do the same thing. Because it's a little different angle here. Because like we said before, traveling together, man, that brings up issues quick. Really?

[Mandy]

Yeah. Well, and it's. What we're doing is kind of different from just taking a vacation. Like, a vacation is nice and relaxing and everything's kind of right planned, but we have to haggle every day for where are we going to stay and where are we going to go tomorrow? So, yeah, we definitely had to have a lot of talk about, well, what if I want to do this, or is it okay if I buy stuff and, you know, and had to. How are we going to compromise on this?

[Jeff]

I definitely want to follow you guys doing that.

[Burt]

Well, how do I have a feeling, like, a couple months into this, Ryan is staying and Manny's hosting the show with us.

[Brian]

No.

[Mandy]

Someone's going to be living in my house, and someone else will have my job, so I don't really have anywhere to come back to. Once I get rid of everything, I'm kind of gone.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Burt]

The last time we talked to you, I think we were waiting for you to sell the house, and that was the last piece of the puzzle. And when you did that, then you guys could start taking this thing a little bit more seriously. So it appears as though that's happening now.

[Brian]

Well, we don't.

[Mandy]

I really hate to jinx it, but it does seem that we have a renter for the house. They've applied, and I've accepted the application, and hopefully this week, we're going to be signing a lease, and they're going to move in either April 15th or May 1st or sometime within that time span. So hopefully that will fall into place completely with the contract in the next few days.

[Burt]

Okay.

[Brian]

Okay.

[Burt]

The obvious question here also is, have you guys traveled a lot together already?

[Mandy]

Not really.

[Brian]

Where have you gone together?

[Burt]

Miami.

[Brian]

I mean, you know, we've spent a few days here and there in, like, Boston, and we did the cruise thing.

[Burt]

That's beyond that.

[Brian]

We have been on a couple trips together.

Yeah.

[Mandy]

Yeah.

[Burt]

Nothing really where they've had to struggle together, though.

[Ashley]

Sure.

[Brian]

But at least they have traveled together. This won't be their first trip away.

[Burt]

Right.

[Brian]

Yeah.

[Ashley]

And how were those flight or trips, like, is it where you guys were each paying your own way, or were you truly traveling as a unit where the money was pooled and all that?

[Brian]

Well, what we're doing, actually, like, I'm going to do it today, is we're just setting up a checking account, and it's going to be a joint account, and we just put in equal amounts of money, and everything we buy on the trip comes out of that.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Brian]

The easiest way to do it, rather than, well, you know, I paid for this. You need to pay for that now, and then you're $10 ahead. Whatever.

[Burt]

Beautif.

[Ashley]

Yeah, that's good.

[Burt]

That's. That's really good for us.

[Ashley]

Gonna be good stuff right there.

[Brian]

Pessimistic.

[Burt]

No, I'm just saying it makes good drama.

[Ashley]

We're fine with that.

[Jeff]

The one thing that I think a trip that Couples can take that can really test their patience with each other is like, have you ever camped together?

[Mandy]

Yes, we have camped together.

[Jeff]

Okay, and how did that go?

[Mandy]

I think that was fine. I mean, the really, the only problem is, and I will take the blame for this, I picked a really cool park, but I didn't realize that the camping part is nowhere near as cool as, like, the day trails. So we hiked in thinking we were going to have all this time to play and explore these really cool canyons. And where the campsites are, it's kind of far away from that. So we're just. It was basically like we're just kind of in the middle of the woods. And so we just had a lot of time to sit around and hang out, like at our campsite. So let's play Yahtzee again, which is.

[Burt]

A great story and that's a great story to tell and one that you can deal with when you know that you're going to be home on Monday morning. But if you're seven months into a year long, you know, traveling campaign and that happens, the attitude may be a little bit different.

[Jeff]

What I think is going to be fine.

[Ashley]

What I think is going to be fun to listen to, although I'm sure it will not be an issue though, is with that, with the joint checking account or the joint, you know, dollar amounts. So you guys are chairing everything. You're going to go to a hotel, that one of you is going to think it's too expensive, or you're going to have a meal, or like, if one of you goes out separate from the other and comes home with a really great souvenir from that joint account that you each put money in. So you're each going to have a say. Like, are you negotiating the terms of who spends what before you leave?

[Brian]

Well, yeah, we kind of talked about that a bit. I mean, that is going to be an issue. Sure. But we figured out, you know, all right, you know, if I have this beer, you can buy that cheap souvenir. And, you know, twice a week we need to stay in a nicer place so we can shower, that sort of thing.

[Ashley]

Okay.

[Brian]

Do you have a daily budget?

[Mandy]

Not really where we are really. I mean, like in Southeast Asia, the budget's gonna be a lot lower than if we end up in, like, Eastern Europe or something. So it may just kind of change depending on, like, what the going rate is. We've just agreed to try to just be as cheap as possible, right?

[Brian]

Yeah. And it's hard to figure out, like, how much you're gonna spend just reading the Lonely Planet guide, you know, there. And it's different.

[Burt]

Monica has some advice for you. Hey, Monica, you're on Q100.

[Sonya]

Good morning, y'.

[Mandy]

All. I love your show.

[Burt]

Thank you.

[Mandy]

This is very exciting for them.

[Sonya]

And I just wanted to share a tip about traveling that you may not have thought about. Now, he did mention travel insurance.

[Mandy]

There's a company that I have heard of.

[Sonya]

I don't know much about them, but.

[Mandy]

I've heard of them.

[Sonya]

They're called.

[Mandy]

I think they're called airmed.

[Sonya]

And if you're traveling the world and.

[Mandy]

Something happens to you, like, let's say you. You break your leg or you get really sick, or who knows what could.

[Sonya]

Happen in any of these countries.

[Mandy]

Like he was saying yellow fever, all this stuff.

[Sonya]

They will actually fly you home to.

[Mandy]

The States for your medical care, which.

[Sonya]

To me is priceless, no matter what it costs. And I don't think it's very expensive. But I had just heard of it last year, and I thought, man, if I ever go on a world trip, I'm going to totally get this insurance. And I just wanted to share that with you in case you wanted to check it out.

[Burt]

Yeah, Susie was telling us that she ran into that, too. I mean, there are some places in the world where they are literally performing dentistry in the streets. I think she said it was Calcutta. So to have that kind of insurance and that kind of peace of mind and safety net, that might be something you guys want to look into.

[Brian]

Yeah.

[Mandy]

Oh, definitely. Yeah.

[Brian]

That's a big part of travel insurance. We were looking at medics, but it's the same sort of thing as airmed. You know, it's like minor local coverage, or if it's a severe event, we'll fly you home.

Mandy, how does your family feel about you traveling?

[Mandy]

You know, honestly, they're not big fans.

[Burt]

No family.

[Mandy]

Well, they like me. They know that I love to travel, and so they love me going on short trips. Cause I can go and take pictures and come back and tell them about it. But this one, I think it's a little harder because I'm gonna be gone for so long. And I keep trying to tell them if this was someone else's kid, you'd probably think this was really cool. And they've kind of admitted that it's cool and it's adventurous. But in that selfish, you know, kind of thing of. And mom and dad are selfish, but, you know, in that selfish kind of we want you here with us sort of thing, and also just worrying about me.

[Ashley]

So do they have problems hanging around.

[Mandy]

To it, but not big fans.

[Ashley]

They have issues with Brian.

[Mandy]

No, they both love Brian. And my dad, even last night when I was talking to him, he said something about be careful or be safe. And I said, well, Brian's, you know, gonna take really good care of me. And my dad said, I know. And that's part of why, you know, I feel, I feel better about this and I feel okay with this because I know you'll be with him.

[Brian]

That's cool.

[Burt]

I would eventually love my five and a half year old, when he gets older, to travel and see the world. But I know that I'll have the same kind of insecurity that your folks have. I mean you're just so out of control of the situation and I think your kids are always, your kids, you're always gonna worry, you know, and I.

[Mandy]

Keep telling, and this is the distance of how long we're gonna go without seeing each other. So keep telling them, you know, meet me somewhere. And so that way, you know, they get to travel and see their daughter.

[Brian]

Good idea. Something to look forward to too.

[Burt]

Have we established that this is a year long trip or is this open ended?

[Brian]

Actually we're saying like a year and a half.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Burt]

That is a long time. You know, when I was just in Chile a couple of weeks ago and I met people that had been traveling for three years, I don't know how.

[Jeff]

They could do it.

[Mandy]

I wish we had that kind of money or you know, because we're kind of open ended and you know, we'll do it until we get tired of it or our money runs out. But yeah, we're saying like a year or two.

[Brian]

Do you already know about big events that you're going to miss, like friends weddings or babies that are set to be born, things like that?

[Sonya]

Nothing definitely.

[Mandy]

But I do have a friend that's trying to get pregnant and so I'm like, oh no, I'm going to feel really terrible if I miss, if she gets pregnant and I miss the pregnancy and the baby.

[Burt]

How about you, Brian? Is there anything there?

[Brian]

Not that I know of. Oh wait, no. Actually I just found out last week one of my own buddies is having a kid.

[Burt]

But you don't really care for that.

[Brian]

Yeah, he lives in St. Louis. Anyway, so it's like eh, you guys don't really get into the whole baby thing.

[Ashley]

You get to meet the kid when he's seven. Don't worry about it.

[Jeff]

You're like, whatever.

[Burt]

All right, well let's touch base with you guys again in a couple of weeks. I think the next step here is when you get that contract signed, then we'll start to work on our end also. Like, we'll call Verizon Wireless because they were the ones that helped us out last time, and hopefully they will this time also. And we'll get you guys a phone or a couple of phones and where you travel, we'll just follow along with you guys, and you can blog for us, and we'll do the same thing that we did with Suzy. If you guys are up on it.

[Brian]

If you're talking to Verizon, see if you can get us out of our contract, too.

[Burt]

Let me see if I can pull some strings for you. It's gonna take somebody more than me to do that for you.

[Brian]

That's funny.

[Burt]

We are also gonna link on over to their website right now. You guys have redone the website, haven't you?

[Brian]

Yeah, I'm still working on adding the slideshow, but we don't really have any travel pictures yet, so. But. Yet.

[Burt]

And it's mandyandbrian.com, right? Yeah, yeah, we have a link on over to it from our website. All right, let's. Why don't you guys give us a call when you've got the renter in the house and you're 100% sure you're taking off.

[Brian]

When we buy our tickets, we'll let you know.

[Burt]

Okay. Is there anything that we can do for you guys on our end? You need anything else?

[Mandy]

We have a cat to get rid of.

[Burt]

A cat?

[Brian]

Yeah, that's true. We gotta get Dewey adopted.

[Jeff]

Bert loves cats.

[Ashley]

Yeah, just bring it over to Burt's house.

[Brian]

Oh, that's perfect for you, Bert.

[Jeff]

That is such a sweet offer you just made to them.

[Brian]

Oh, totally. What's your kitty cat's name?

[Mandy]

His name is Dewey. We didn't actually name him. I'm supposed to just be his foster mom. And it kind of seems that the agency that I'm fostering him through has kind of forgotten about him. And so I'm really afraid that if we give him back, they're just gonna. I don't know what they're gonna do with it.

[Brian]

Yeah, well, Bert would never let that happen. So Dewey has.

[Burt]

The first thing I'll do is I'll rename him Windsor Parkway, because that's where he's going to be living. We can. We'll find somebody to take your cat.

[Mandy]

Okay, great.

[Burt]

Okay, just give us a call back when you guys are 100% sure no.

[Jeff]

I don't want you to give her that offer.

[Burt]

Let's define the cat. It's not going to be me, I promise.

[Jeff]

We were joking, but there's an animal rights issue here.

[Burt]

If it was a dog, I'd entertain the idea.

[Jeff]

Rights issue.

[Burt]

Tori wanted them to know that it's insuremytrip.com is the website that you can go to if you're going to do some traveling. They'll fly you back to the States if anything happens to you. The first show. We know we got a lot of teachers that listen this early in the morning. And I was on ajc.com a couple days ago and I saw this debate starting to brew and I thought it was pretty interesting because I never really thought of it this way before. But the debate is do male teachers face a double standard? And here's what was written. Few people raise an eyebrow if a female teacher talks with a student alone. When it happens with a male teacher, the situation can be misconstrued. I've heard male middle and high school teachers say they try to never be alone with a student. Some invite a female colleague into the room or move the conversation into the hallway. If they must be alone with a student, many male teachers leave the door open. Some say they stand near the doorway so it doesn't look like something clandestine is going on. Male elementary school teachers, particularly those in kindergarten, face different challenges at that young age. Children are quick to hug. Female teachers hug back with little hesitation. Male teachers say they're more likely to give pats on the back or on the head. Many female kindergarten teachers will help kids with problematic snaps and zippers and helps kids change their pants if they have an accident. The male kindergarten teachers I've met said they don't do that and because it could be misinterpreted, instead they ask a female paraprofessional to step in. As a society, do we trust female teachers more than we trust male teachers? And why? Was the question?

[Jeff]

I think that's just an over. To me, that would be an overall theme because I bet I don't know. Yeah, I bet. Even fathers I can imagine of daughters as they grow older probably are a lot more self conscious about things than mothers are. I just think in general, you know, men probably always have to think that in the back of their mind because all it takes is one accusation and then their reputation's done.

[Brian]

That's true. I hadn't even thought about that. But yet you see female teachers as being maternal in that way. But male teachers I'm sure that would raise an eyebrow.

[Burt]

And here's the thing now is that now it seems more than ever you're starting to see female teachers that are the ones that are accused of this kind of behavior. It's generally with like, high school boys, but it sure seems like we're seeing that way more than we see guys.

[Ashley]

Now, you guys remember what happened to Matt Dillon in the movie Wild Things, which I think is a true story.

[Burt]

At least the full scene was. Yeah, yeah.

[Ashley]

Denise Richards and Neve Campbell washing his car.

[Jeff]

And this is why a lot of times men aren't trusted.

[Ashley]

I think it's crap because every time I walk into a room with a girl and shut the door, she opens it back up and blows a whistle and sprays me with mace. And I've done nothing to deserve that.

[Burt]

Ashley, you're on Q100.

[Ashley]

Good morning, 91 1.

[Burt]

What's up, man?

[Ashley]

Nothing much. I'm actually an elementary school teacher and I teach fourth grade. And I have to make sure that I have another adult within ear distance, within earshot if I'm having to discipline a child, male or female. I've been teaching for like three years now. And it's almost like you have to, you know, you have to be proactive. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but it's almost like you have to always be on, which means you have to always be aware of every single thing. You can't have a natural situation, which sometimes are the best when you're in an educational environment, but you have to always be almost artificial and robotic.

[Burt]

Is it school policy that if you have to keep a girl after class or whatever and you're going to talk to her one on one, that there has to be a woman there in the room with you?

[Brian]

Yeah.

[Burt]

Really. And I wonder if.

[Ashley]

I'm not sure if it's actually school policy, but I think it's been said to me by my administrator, probably just a good.

They may not make it an official policy because that might be. You might be able to argue sexism or whatever, but I think they could probably, on a one on one basis, say to all the guy teachers, hey, for your own sake.

[Burt]

But I wonder if they're doing it to the women teachers also.

[Ashley]

I think it's more probably to the guy teachers.

I don't see that happening. I don't see that happening in my situation. I, I've seen women teachers alone, if, let's say, if I want to maybe keep a child from, you know, maybe they were misbehaving or some situation, and I won't let it. Lord, let my kids go out of recess and with another teacher and I stay inside with that child. That's not ever going to happen ever, right? That's not ever happening. So I'll end up going out with another child with other teachers, children and, you know, let her stay in.

[Burt]

Ben, I think, is going to say the same thing. Hey, Ben.

[Brian]

Hey.

[Gene]

Good morning, guys.

[Ashley]

Good morning.

[Gene]

I definitely am never going to initiate any contact. I teach second grade and some of my students, you know, they definitely want to come up and hug you in the morning or anything and definitely don't want to initiate any contact. Just so nothing is said.

[Brian]

If they come and hug you, you can hug back though, right?

[Gene]

Well, you know, actually in college, especially when we were doing our student teaching and stuff, they said don't ever initiate contact because that's when you get in trouble.

[Ashley]

But what Jen said is if they can, like, if you're standing at the head of the class and, you know, the first student of the day runs through the door and sees you and is like, you know, you know, what you miss, you know, Mr. Bert and comes up and wraps their arms around your legs, what do you do generally?

[Gene]

Just let me, you know, maybe a pat on the back and you kind of try and step away. Just, you know, just protect yourself.

[Burt]

And you don't see the female teachers doing the same thing. Right.

[Gene]

Female teacher will definitely give them the hug. And, you know, it's crazy, but, you know, we really do have to protect ourselves.

[Burt]

Sure.

[Jeff]

Never thought of that. Yeah, I'm trying to think. In my elementary school, the first male teacher I had wasn't until the sixth grade. So it was all female teachers until then. So I was trying to think if I ever witnessed that myself. And by the time, you know, we weren't running in the class hugging by the sixth grade, so.

[Burt]

Hey, Sonya, you're on Q100. Good morning.

[Sonya]

Good morning, everybody. I love you guys.

[Burt]

You sound like a teacher.

[Jeff]

Good morning, Glenn.

[Mandy]

Thank you very much.

[Sonya]

I actually wanted to comment about the female being trusted more because I think you guys need to understand that naturally we have that motherly instinct with the kids, and if we have that passion, it absolutely comes so naturally. And we don't have those second thoughts like generally and forgive me, male have. I know that, you know, forgive me, the males, you know, the men. I'm sure that there are some awesome male teachers out there, but lately we have had a lot of abuse with the man and in general. So I Think absolutely the females need to be, you know, they're trusted more. I think it's absolutely, perfectly understood.

[Burt]

So if I'm. If I'm reading you right, what you're saying is that women can be trusted more than men because men have more sexual thoughts per day than women do.

[Sonya]

I didn't want to say that, but since you brought it up, that's what I was thinking.

[Burt]

I think that's a crazy theory. I think that's a crazy theory when it comes to little kids.

[Sonya]

Well, but we have seen so much abuse generally with male. Because, I mean, I don't want it on, you know, I don't want to put you guys down or anything. I'm telling you again, there are multiple.

[Ashley]

Male teachers before you because I know you're trying to fool us with the accent, that you're all smart and whatnot. But if you go, like, if you Google it and you'd spend some time on the news, you'll see over the past couple years, several cases of female teachers taking advantage of their younger male students. And like the Mary Kay Letreno Letourneau, the girl down in Tampa, is the one who comes to mind because she was pretty hot. I remember we were talking about that earlier.

[Burt]

There was just another one yesterday.

[Ashley]

Yeah.

[Sonya]

Okay, Jeff, I know that you totally mean that I'm trying to be smart, but. No, I'm not trying to be smart. I've been a teacher for six years, and I do elementary and high school.

[Ashley]

Right, but I'm just saying, how can you say that men have more thoughts and men shouldn't be teachers for that.

[Jeff]

Reason, when students never said that males.

[Sonya]

Shouldn'T be teachers, I clarified and said that. I'm sure there are some wonderful male teachers. It's just that, I mean, Bert was the one that brought it up and said about those sexual thoughts. I didn't.

[Burt]

Well, that's what you were saying. You just didn't say the words. But you're saying your theory is that men naturally are more sexual, so women as teachers would be more trustworthy around their students.

[Sonya]

Yeah, but again, some male are also good. But yes, I'm sorry, the sexual thoughts are more there for male naturally.

[Brian]

That's hard to general generalize, though. I mean, I would almost give her more credibility if we're just talking about high school, but because those girls are older, you know what I mean? And, like, maybe the potential for the. Those thoughts to be there. But elementary school.

[Jeff]

Well, we're not just talking about elementary school in the conversation, but I don't Know where, what she was doing. But let me ask the guys. If you had for your children, when it comes to teachers, would you be more comfortable with your child having a personal conference with a female teacher, a male teacher, or would it even enter your mind?

[Burt]

Doesn't matter to me at all now. I don't have girls. I've got two boys. I don't know if that changes the equation at all. But as far as my kids go and the boys, it doesn't matter to me. Good morning. Whitney is on the voice disguiser. Hi, Whitney. Hi.

[Mandy]

Sort of.

[Brian]

Horace.

[Whitney]

I've lost my voice. I just wanted to comment. I'm a senior at South High and I feel that it's a lot easier to talk to my male teachers. And this year I have five guy teachers out of six classes. So I just feel that, like, they're a lot easier to talk to. But then I grew up with my dad and I grew up with a brother. So I just, I feel once you get past like the middle school drama of like, oh, my God, my teacher's gonna rape me, then you get sort of. You can have a closer connection with them.

[Brian]

You felt that way in middle school?

[Whitney]

No. High school changed because you have, like, all the rumors spreading in middle school, like, don't trust your guy teachers. But once you get to high school, you realize, okay, well, they're cooler to talk to. I mean, they. I mean, they almost, like, they're easier to talk to like a friend standpoint rather than like, on a superior level of you have to give them respect, but they give you the same respect as, like, a friend would.

[Burt]

Are they very, very careful when you're in their car? Are they very, very careful not to have, like, just one on one conversations with you?

[Whitney]

See, I go in for personal tutoring in the morning, and I've never seen a problem.

[Ashley]

You meet him in his house, just.

[Whitney]

A guy teacher, and I've never seen a problem.

[Burt]

You've never felt like anything inappropriate was ever said between a teacher and you?

[Whitney]

Nope.

[Ashley]

I don't think. I think the reason that the teachers are doing it are not because there's going to be like, I can't. Like, I think it's. We're going down the wrong avenue when we say when girls are alone with male teachers, there's gonna be a problem. I think what the teachers are worried about. Worried about is a parent, like some random parent. Like this girl's parent, let's say she randomly says, oh, yeah, I've been going in with, you know, Mr. Weiss to have tutoring every morning, twice a week. And her parents like, what? What teacher is gonna arrive at school half hour early to give a student extra special, you know, tutoring or whatever, and then just raise it to the awareness of the principal? And then the teacher's got to deal with all that. Like the very first thing you said, Bert, is once that's on your reputation, it's on there. Like, once they've looked into it, even if they find nothing wrong, ten years later, if they look into it again, then the newspaper runs the article that says, and he was investigated for this 10 years ago, you know what I'm saying? And there's zero wrong. So why not have somebody, another teacher, sit in the back of the classroom and grade papers?

[Jeff]

Well, and going on your theory about the parents too, and even that other teacher. I think in society generally there is that attitude that men think about sex more than women and that people would. If an accusation was made against a male teacher and an accusation was made against a female teacher, then more than likely with the male teacher, you're like, yeah, hmm, I should have known. Where with the female teacher, there's no way, you know what I mean? Like, I just think as a general rule, we see men and women differently.

[Burt]

I'm not gonna be able to get to Stacy, but she was calling in to say that at her preschool the guys aren't allowed to change the kids has to be a woman. But most calls are coming in from guys looking to disagree with Sonya. Go ahead, Gene.

[Gene]

Hey, how you guys doing? Yeah, I was just like I was saying, I was listening and, you know, I've been a professional teacher for about, you know, six years myself. And I mean, I've dealt with plenty of kids, little girls to 18 year old girls. And I've seen, you know, students act, you know, the same towards me as a female teacher. I've seen female teachers act, make little comments about the little high school students, you know, about. Oh, did you see, you know, throwing names out there, Timmy today and his basketball shorts, you know, and I've seen, you know, I'm kind of young myself. I'm like 27. So I've seen, you know, teachers, teachers in the teachers lines do a lot of things that a lot of people don't really expect.

[Burt]

Are the female teachers more inappropriate when you guys are all around with each other and joking around and talking about the students? Are the women more inappropriate about the students than the guys are?

[Gene]

Well, I guess it all depends on the school you go to. I work in metro Atlanta So some teachers I do work with are a lot younger and especially in high school. I know they've. I know they've been hit on a couple of times. So they've been hit on schools. I don't want to say, you know, I put my school out there, but sometimes, sometimes.

[Burt]

What were you saying, Jen?

[Brian]

They were hit on by students or they were hitting non students?

[Gene]

They were getting hit on by students. You know, like how students made little comments and, you know, certain teachers would flirt with a student back. And then one student, you know, as far as going by, you know, male joking around too much with the student, it was actually the female teacher who was joking around too much of the student. The student took it the wrong way, told his mother, came up to the school and it just, you know, blew up into like, how to say, well, I mean, it should be like that. But, you know.

[Jeff]

Well, I think. Well, I think you find that, I mean, a teacher's going to graduate college, let's say, what, 22, 23 years old, and then they go into a class if they go to high school. So a senior in high school is only like five years younger than their teacher. So I think that's a whole different type of dynamic that. Where you could have problems. Get it?

[Burt]

The Bird show. I keep referring back to my Saturday night and Jeff. Jeff told me that I got to talk about this because I know I'm this guy for other people. So Saturday night I wanted to go out and I wanted to go watch the basketball games, the Final Four. And there's a great new sports bar down by Phillips arena called Stats. So I start calling around to a couple of different guys to go. And I don't think I realized it at the time until Jeff mentioned it and like focused on it more this morning that you have people that you'll invite and people that you won't invite based on what you're doing and where you go. And I didn't realize that at the time, but I was doing just that because here was my thought process on it. Look, I know I had to get up early on Sunday because Stacy's away for the weekend. She's on a girls weekend with her friends down in South Carolina. So I knew I was gonna have to get up at 7 o' clock.

[Brian]

With the kids to be with the kids, right?

[Burt]

And seven o', clock, that's really, really early if you've been out until 4 in the morning. I just didn't want to do that. I didn't want to be hungover. I Didn't want to be half myself. I wanted to enjoy my time with my kids. So I figured, okay, let's manipulate the night a little bit. Rather than go out at 10, I'll go out at 6. I'll call some of the guys. We'll be there for tip off. First games at like 6, 6:30. Second games like at 8, 8:30. I'll be home by 11 o'. Clock. This is beautiful.

[Brian]

Perfect.

[Burt]

Couple of beers, hang out with the guys, watch game perfect. So I start calling around. And I called all that because I know he dull vet, doesn't drink that much. So I know I'm safe there right with him.

[Brian]

Okay.

[Burt]

Then I go through. I'm starting to go through the list of guys to call. And then I call my friend Don also, who does have some discipline. And he normally likes to be home early also. So I'm starting to avoid some of the guys that I know that have a motor like I do. So I specifically don't call the one.

[Brian]

To go into fifth gear immediately.

[Burt]

Totally. And my friend Justin is that guy. So I know that if I call Justin that shot, shots are gonna be poured. We're gonna be out late. I'm gonna be hungover.

[Jeff]

You know, people talk about you like this.

[Burt]

I said that in the beginning. I know that, like, I am to Justin. I am. Justin is to me as I am to Don. I think, because Don knows when he goes out with me, it's gonna be ugly.

[Brian]

He's preparing himself. He's like carb loading, eating pasta before he goes.

[Jeff]

You're just.

[Burt]

We're that guy. Justin is that guy. And if he goes out, he's like me. He's going into fifth gear. And there is nothing in between. There is nothing.

[Ashley]

It goes from idle to game on at 10. Quickly, two shots.

[Burt]

But the problem is with this group of guys, we're all so tight that if you invite one, it's a T. It's a chain that even if you don't make the invitation, somebody else will.

[Brian]

The domino effect.

[Burt]

So I get a text from Justin going, hey, I didn't even text him. And I got one back from him, basically saying, no, no, Dolvette, text me saying, I just invited Justin. Also, this is gonna hurt.

[Brian]

Crap, here we go. And you're starting at six.

[Burt]

So then I. Then I text Justin and we all go out and we're all having a great time and things are going fine. Justin's behaving. It really looks like I'm gonna get home by 11 o' clock and what do I do? Shots for everybody.

[Mandy]

You turned into the night.

[Ashley]

How many beers were you into the night?

[Burt]

It was stupid. And I mean, I got home at 1 and Hollis, the 10 month old, got up at 6.

[Brian]

That's your payback right there.

[Burt]

And it was an awful day yesterday. It was awful. Like I wasn't even enjoying hanging out with the kids. I mean, just have a little bit of freaking discipline. But do you guys have somebody like that in your group? It was for me for a while. I'm good about it now with you.

[Jeff]

Well, it's funny how only.

[Ashley]

Cause she had to get a new kidney in order to convince you to leave her alone.

[Jeff]

Because even at our. We had just an office gather. Let me just. Let me just. We were at an office gathering. It was just a, you know, just a random cool event where we were just, you know, bringing all the office staff together and just hanging out. And I was there for, I don't know, Jeff and I left at the same time. I got there a little before Jeff, but I don't know if you noticed this, Jeff.

[Ashley]

30 minutes maybe.

[Jeff]

Maybe. And so there's a bar area, and before I leave, there is a crowd surrounding the bar as if something was going on. And something that was going on was Burt buying shots for everybody. And it wasn't. Oh, Melissa, it's good to see you. See you later. It was. Not drinking again. Are you not drinking? What you drinking did you have?

[Brian]

It was a Monday, right?

[Jeff]

And it was a Monday.

[Brian]

Oh, no, it wasn't a Monday.

[Ashley]

Yeah, it was. It was early in the. Oh, it was a Thursday.

[Jeff]

Thursday. It was a Thursday.

[Brian]

And I didn't.

[Jeff]

I didn't even get out the door, so.

[Brian]

Yeah, you're that guy.

[Jeff]

I was at the office party.

[Burt]

I just, you know, I have never. I'm just like the freshman in college and just have never gotten over that mentality. It's embarrassing.

[Jeff]

But you're beautiful if you. If you need that guy, Bert's the best guy to have. You're the best one, because you don't really.

[Burt]

It's embarrassing.

[Jeff]

You know, you still can communicate, you know, where some guys in your position wouldn't even be able to get words out. So you can at least still communicate.

[Burt]

But, I mean, thanks for setting the bar.

[Ashley]

It is worth noting that that particular night that, say, you know, the night of the event, there was one of our staff members was supposed to keep count of how much Bert had to drink because we were going to talk about it on the air the next day.

[Jeff]

Oh, that's right.

[Ashley]

Like, I get an update after the second shot, third shot, fourth shot, second beer, third shot, third beer, fourth beer. And then I don't hear anything else, like, for the rest of the night.

[Jeff]

Oh, he sucked into the black hole.

[Ashley]

And I come into the next night, and I say to Burt, I'm like, oh, so you had four shots, but only two beers. And you're like, no, I stayed for. I had two beers after the shots, and I was like, oh, my God, you killed him. Like, the count stopped. Like, that's the trick if you got somebody keeping count for you.

[Burt]

You just give them the most out of them.

[Ashley]

You drink them under, and then you just keep going it.

[Burt]

The Diddy vortex. You just get, like, caught up in it.

[Ashley]

You're that guy.

[Burt]

I'm that guy. I don't want to be it. You are what you are.

[Ashley]

You're the.

[Burt]

Too late. Too late to change.

[Jeff]

You talked about this for how many years have we been on the air?

[Burt]

Yeah, it's too late to change now.

[Brian]

That's fine.

[Jeff]

That's who you are.

[Burt]

I'll change in some other area. I'm stuck with this. You're on the Birch show.