The Bert Show

Full Show PT 3: Tuesday, January 13 [Vault]
Date: January 13, 2026
Host: Pionaire Podcasting
Featured Cast: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy & Cast
Noteworthy Guests: Dana, Shakira

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode of The Bert Show focuses on real-life relationship dramas, listener call-ins, and a celebrity interview. The morning is filled with laughter, candid admissions, advice, and honest conversation, making relatable connections with listeners. Key segments include a follow-up with frequent caller Dana about her unusual romantic journey, a lively and insightful interview with pop sensation Shakira, and an exploration of dating rules and fidelity through open debate and calls.

Key Segments, Discussions & Insights

1. Dana’s Relationship Update: Crossroads and Curiosity

[01:05 – 15:59]

• Dana’s Story So Far:

  • Dana, 27, gave an update regarding her ongoing relationship with Carl (aka “Matlock”), a 58-year-old man she met through her parents.
  • Recap: Dana’s first date ever was with Carl, which quickly escalated into daily visits, staying overnight frequently, vacationing together (Bahamas, NYC), and receiving a promise ring from him.
  • The show teases her about diving headfirst into a serious relationship with a much older man, while noting her refreshingly candid approach.

• Notable Quotes:

  • “I've only, obviously, that I've ever had? Because I've never had a romantic night before.” — Dana [02:11]
  • “He's actually planning a vacation for us in Atlantis in the Bahamas... He's even given me a promise ring, which is just incredible.” — Dana [02:45]
  • “Yeah, I do [love him]. We hang out every night at his house and it’s getting more serious and more serious.” — Dana [02:43]

• New Twist: Temptation at the Pool:

  • While Carl was gambling in the Bahamas, Dana met a 30-year-old man from Atlanta by the pool, felt a spark, and exchanged contacts with him.
  • Dana confessed to being tempted, never having dated someone her own age, and wondering if she was moving too fast with Carl.
  • She admitted, “I really see you being honest with yourself...the temptation of anybody that comes around, that's your age.” — Host [07:53]

• Panel’s Opinions:

  • The hosts debate whether age difference is the issue or just the inexperience of dating outside a first serious relationship, suggesting Dana should explore options before settling.
  • “I really think you should pay attention to your curiosity of this 30 year old guy.” — Co-host [09:03]

• Caller Support:

  • A caller encourages Dana to go out with the 30-year-old, warning she might regret not exploring when she’s older. Another debate ensues: Is honesty with Carl (the older partner) vital before branching out?
  • “It may not work out. But what if it does?” — Dana [13:20]
  • “If you really are in love with the 58 year old...then you will. But I don't think that you need to do it out of fear.” — Co-host [14:21]

• Dana’s Resolution:

  • Dana, showing maturity, leans toward being honest with Carl and considering a date with the younger man, acknowledging that few people marry their first love.

2. Spotlight Interview: Shakira on Fame, Music, and Identity

[18:33 – 31:53]

• Shakira’s Take on Global vs. American Fame:

  • The segment opens with the team marveling at Shakira’s international stardom and discussing differences in musical tastes between America and the rest of the world.
  • Shakira expresses gratitude for her American reception and notes changing tides in U.S. audiences being more open to music in Spanish.

• Notable Quotes:

  • “I think things are changing and we're breaking barriers, and this is much more of a global world. We're much closer to each other than what we think...” — Shakira [19:31]
  • “I had to move to the Bahamas... I have the privacy and the space to create and be with myself... that's La Tortura of Shakira, my own torture, really, that invasion.” — Shakira [21:12]

• Fan Interaction & Identity:

  • Listeners call in, some identifying as fellow Colombians, to praise Shakira’s influence as a symbol of hope and resilience for their community.
  • “Seeing you out there making it, it gives a lot of inspiration... I support you 150%. I'm very proud of you.” — Mario, caller [27:28]

• Artistry & Public Perception:

  • Shakira addresses the tendency for new markets to focus on her dance moves or looks before appreciating her deeper artistic side, encouraging fans to listen for the poetic and cultural layers in her music.
  • “Once they establish a relationship with you, they start discovering you more deeply... and that’s what happened.” — Shakira [24:27]

• Language, Culture, & New Projects:

  • She speaks with affection about both her Latin and English-speaking fans, dispelling criticism about releasing English-language music, and stressing her commitment to honoring her Colombian roots.
  • Discusses her creative involvement in music videos and upcoming projects: remix videos, tours, and album releases (“Fijación Oral” and “Oral Fixation Vol. 2”).
  • Fun language barrier moment: “Stick shift— I always say stick is… I never say it the right thing.” —Shakira [28:51]

3. Dating, Cheating, and Relationship Ethics: Ideal vs. Real

[34:35 – 50:26]

• Nicole/Karen/Aaron Saga Recap:

  • The show revisits a convoluted love triangle. Karen and Nicole discover they’ve both been dating Aaron; Nicole admits she knew about Karen and ultimately “stole” Aaron away.
  • Nicole says: “Once I found out what a crackhead she is...I thought, you know what, let me help.” [36:42]

• Panel and Listener Reactions:

  • The group explores moral lines in relationships: is “cheating” only relevant after marriage or engagement, or does respect/commitment start before?
  • Some listeners argue anything goes before marriage, while others (including the hosts) contend that honesty and respect are essential in any serious relationship.
  • “There is a right way to do things and there is a wrong way to do things. And the way that they handled this was absolutely incorrect.” — Host [37:54]
  • “If you give somebody keys to your place and keys to your car, that's a commitment level enough that you owe that woman respect.” — Co-host [39:35]

• Call-In Discussion: Serial Cheating & Relationship Ethics:

  • A caller, Tara, confesses to serial cheating (“I've cheated on every single one of my boyfriends. I'm 25”), but insists she’ll be faithful once married because “marriage is sacred.” [41:19]
  • Hosts challenge Tara’s belief in a magical behavioral transformation upon marriage, questioning whether character can change without practice or inclination.
  • “I think in your ideal mind, the ideal you is someone that would not cheat... but in your everyday practice, you have turned yourself into someone who doesn't have the character that you think you do.” — Co-host [43:06]
  • A male caller, Andrew, confides he follows a similar outlook—dating multiple people, but claims once he finds “the right one” he’ll commit.

• Honesty in Dating:

  • Discussion centers on the importance of honesty in relationships, not just about exclusivity but in self-awareness and communication.
  • “Why can't you be honest with them? Like, why do you feel the need to lie?” — Co-host [44:54]

Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• “I've never had a romantic night before.” — Dana [02:11]
• “I just didn't know...should I go out with this guy just because I never—to get it out of my system that I dated somebody my age?” — Dana [07:39]
• “I think you should go out with him, because I really think that you are moving this thing with Carl way too fast.” — Co-host [09:03]
• “When you are coupled with somebody, you have some kind of scent to you. Mojo, some kind of mojo, some kind of attitude where people are attracted to you. Maybe it's confidence, maybe it's a confidence you've never had before.” — Host [13:41]
• “I really feel much more tranquil, isolated. And I have the privacy and the space to create and be with myself and by myself. Sometimes it's where I can really get introspective.” — Shakira [21:15]
• “It's just the paparazzi, what I find very annoying. You know, that's La Tortura of Shakira, my own torture...” — Shakira [21:15]
• “Once they establish a relationship with you, they start discovering you more deeply.” — Shakira [24:27]
• “There is a right way to do things and there is a wrong way to do things.” — Host [37:54]
• “I think your ideal mind, the ideal you is someone that would not cheat on anybody. ... But in your everyday practice, you have turned yourself into someone who doesn't have the character that you think you do.” — Co-host [43:06]

Additional Noteworthy Segments

• Shakira’s Humorous Language Barriers:

  • Several laughs over her struggle to pronounce “stick shift,” with the cast joining in [28:51–29:24].

• Listener Call-Ins:

  • Multiple listeners phone in to share perspectives, mirroring broader societal debates on exclusivity, honesty, and morality in relationships.

• Closing Thoughts:

  • The show underscores realness and community, encouraging ongoing, open discussion on difficult topics while maintaining a light and humorous tone.

Summary Table of Important Timestamps

| Section | Timestamps | Highlights | |-----------------------------------|---------------------|------------------------------------------------| | Dana’s Relationship Update | 01:05 – 15:59 | Age gap romance, temptation by peer, advice | | Shakira Interview | 18:33 – 31:53 | Music, fame, Latino pride, artistry, language | | Dating, Cheating & Relationship | 34:35 – 50:26 | Love triangles, relationship morals, honesty |

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