Full Show PT 3: Wednesday, July 29 [Vault]

Summary

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The Bert Show – Full Show PT 3: Wednesday, July 29 [Vault]

Date: July 29, 2026
Theme: Honest, humorous, and sometimes provocative conversations about modern life, race, family, culture, and personal experiences, featuring candid audience participation and spirited cast debates.

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Overview

This episode features “Ask a Race,” a recurring segment where listeners and cast members ask questions they’ve always been curious about regarding different racial or cultural groups, aiming for honest, judgment-free dialogue and laughs. The second half shifts focus to family, with producer Joanna sharing her financial struggles navigating adulthood during a recession and moving back in with her parents. Rounding it out are tales of cool uncles and a heartfelt follow-up on a family wedding dress drama.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ask a Race: Breaking Down Racial Questions and Stereotypes

• Hosts: Bert (Host), Jeff, Carl, Melissa, Wendy, Joanna, Natalie, plus callers
• Segment begins: [00:28]

Cultural Curiosities and Stereotypes

• The cast openly discusses common but often unspoken racial questions, both from their own experiences and via callers.

Notable Questions and Themes:

• Discipline Styles ([01:39]):

  • Brandon: “Why do white people talk to their kids in public instead of disciplining them the way black parents do?”
  • Host: “White people are really scared that that’s actually going to happen, like being reported for hitting their kids.”
    [01:17]
  • Melissa: “I think they just spoil their kids…more than black kids are.”
    [03:20]

• Talking Back & Parenting

  • Carl: “Why do white people talk back to their parents?”
    [03:29]

• Pronunciation of 'Ask' ([03:53]):

  • Natalie: “Why do black people pronounce the word ‘ask’ as ‘ax’?”
  • Group playfully debates and tries to say the word correctly; Carl becomes self-conscious and everyone laughs through the attempted corrections.
  • Host: “We did this like six months ago, and you didn’t even realize you were saying ‘ax’ instead of ‘ask’.”
    [04:06]

• Leaving Blinds Open ([06:10]):

  • Carl: “Why in the hell do you [white people] not close your blinds at night?”
  • Melissa: “It’s just gross to me…like exhibitionists or something.”

• Body Image & Cosmetic Surgery ([07:14]):

  • Natalie (Caller): ”Why are white women obsessed with their boobies and getting them enhanced and done?”
  • Wendy: “White boys always talk about boobs… White women get self-conscious if they don’t have big boobs.”
  • Host: “I’ve seen black women walk into Dolvett’s gym and ask how they can make their butts bigger… to a white woman, that’s crazy talk.”

• Astrology in Black Culture ([08:25]):

  • Host: “Astrology seems to be much more important to black people than it does to white people.”
  • Melissa: “Yeah, you get shout outs in black clubs for your zodiac sign… It becomes a thing for promos.”

• Black Women’s Hair ([10:22]):

  • Natalie (Caller): “Is black women’s hair a different texture, and is that why there’s so much use of weave?”
  • Carl: “Of course it is a different texture. We do have to perm it, keep it pressed in order to comb it easily.”
  • Melissa: “Why not let it be curly?”
  • Carl: “It’s easier to comb in the morning!”

• Camping & Outdoor Activities ([12:19]):

  • Carl: “What’s the obsession with camping? I’ve never been camping a day in my life.”
  • Cast responds: Closer to nature, roughing it, but Carl jokes about not wanting to see a bear and prefers backyard camping.
  • [12:42] Carl: “We camp out in our backyard. I put up a tent and that’s our camping ground right there, baby.”

• Expressiveness in Movies ([12:50]):

  • Natalie (Caller): “Why do black people talk through the entire movie and react loudly?”
  • Carl: “We’re just emotional… we’re gonna express it in the movies, at home, wherever.”
  • Melissa: “The same question could be asked of white people. Why do you repress all this emotion rather than expressing it?”

• White People Repressing Emotions ([14:38]):

  • Host: “Why don’t white people loosen up?”
  • Jeff: “Like, loosen up, white people.”

Memorable Quotes:

• “Call the police if you want to call them.” – Carl, on black parents disciplining kids in public ([03:14])
• “Loosen up, white people!” – Jeff ([14:43])
• “White boys always talk about boobs.” – Wendy ([07:45])
• “We’re real expressive and we’re gonna express it in the movies, at home, wherever we are.” – Carl ([13:20])
• “You can spoil them. And he has a new girlfriend. Anna. She’s fine. My nephew.” – Carl on helping his nephew with prom ([28:28])

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2. Life During a Recession: Moving Back Home

• Segment Begins: [15:19]
• Producer Joanna’s Story:
  • At 26, Joanna moves back in with her parents due to financial constraints, despite feeling she should be independent at this age.
  • Discusses the emotional and practical challenges—like adjusting to new “house rules” and feeling awkward about parents checking in on her whereabouts.

Notable Quotes:

• “I should have life figured out at 26. Somewhat.” – Joanna ([16:09])
• “The recession changed everything.” – Host ([16:23])
• “If the child is moving back in, then you can’t be their parent… like when they were a teenager anymore. You have to kind of hold yourself back.” – Wendy ([22:06])

Community Reflection

• Several listeners (Rosemary, Michelle) call in to say they, too, have moved back home and stress the importance of family knowing their whereabouts for safety—not just parental control.
• The cast debates boundaries and how both parents and children must adjust when adult children move back home.

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3. Family Dynamics: The “Cool Uncle” and the Prom

• Segment Begins: [23:32]
• Carl’s Story:
  • Carl takes pride in being the go-to uncle—“the patriarch” for the extended family—especially for his nieces and nephews.
  • His nephew wants to make prom special (limo, alligator shoes, drop-top Cadillac, cane); Carl wires him $200, more than requested, because he wants to spoil him.
  • Family members debate whether it’s right to keep this support secret from the nephew’s mom.

Notable Quotes:

• “I want Carl to be my uncle. More specifically, I want Carl’s credit card to be my uncle.” – Jeff ([25:47])
• “He wants to go hard. Now, mind you, alligator shoes is real popular up in Michigan.” – Carl ([25:53])
• “Uncle Carl’s gonna take care of [it].” – Host ([25:38])

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4. Listener Follow-Up: The Wedding Dress Drama Resolved

• Segment Begins: [30:54]
• Previously: Lee and her older sister fought over who should inherit their late mother’s wedding dress. The older sister resisted, citing tradition and their mother’s supposed wishes.
• Resolution: The older sister had a dream where their mother told her to give Lee the dress. She delivered it in person, resolving family tensions. The sisters talked through previous comments about Lee’s fiancé and reaffirm mutual love.

Memorable Moments:

• “I was like, what? But, you know, what happened was a change of heart all of a sudden… She had a dream my mother came to her and said, ‘You should give her the dress.’” – Lee ([32:38])
• “Has your mom come to you and give you a high five in your dream?” – Melissa ([34:27])
• “The Bird Show is never quite sure what to do with a really good, positive, sort of wrapped-in-a-bow ending. We got it.” – Host ([35:29])

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• On race talk:
  “We just are uneducated about each other and we’re afraid to ask the questions.” – Host ([00:45])
• On discipline:
  “White people are really scared that’s actually going to happen [cops called].” – Host ([03:17])
• On movie behavior:
  “We’re just emotional. We’re very expressive. We’re gonna express it in the movies, at home, wherever we are.” – Carl ([13:20])
• On cast family roles:
  “I want Carl to be my uncle. More specifically, I want Carl’s credit card to be my uncle.” – Jeff ([25:47])
• On moving back home:
  “If the child is moving back in then… you can’t be their parent… like when they were a teenager anymore.” – Wendy ([22:06])
• On mending sisterly bonds:
  “She had a dream the night before that my mother came to her and said, ‘You should give her the dress. I want her to have the dress.’” – Lee ([32:38])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Ask a Race Segment Begins: [00:28]
• Astrology and Black Culture: [08:25]
• Black Women’s Hair and Weaves: [10:22]
• Expressiveness at the Movies: [12:50]
• Moving Back Home During Recession: [15:19]
• Uncle Carl and His Nephew’s Prom: [23:32]
• Resolution of the Wedding Dress Drama: [30:54]

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

The Bert Show delivers a real, unscripted, and unfiltered look at modern American conversations on race, family, and culture. Through frank humor and empathy, the cast exposes stereotypes and cultural habits, providing a safe space for awkward questions and self-reflection. Even sensitive family and cultural issues are handled with warmth and wit, making for an honest and entertaining listen.

Transcript

[Carl]

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[Jeff]

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[Carl]

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[Jeff]

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[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Refreshers contain caffeine. It's the vert show. All right, this is how Ask a Race works. Look, I have said this before. In fact, it came up last week when I was at that Converse party also. I am sorry, but from where I stand, this is a racially fractured city still, right?

[Melissa]

And I think it's very self segregated.

[Natalie]

I think.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

I think so, too. I think so too. And I think a lot of this still sort of trickles down, that we just are uneducated about each other and we're afraid to ask the questions. You know, like black people are afraid to ask white people questions, and white people are really afraid to ask black people questions because you don't want to be labeled racist. You don't want to be labeled ignorant. So you keep the questions in and you don't ask.

[Jeff]

The only question I ever asked is, where do black people buy furniture? But, Bert, you answered that for us several years ago with the Red House

[Joanna]

commercial at the Red House, where black

[Wendy]

people and white people buy furniture and Hispanics too.

[Jeff]

And other than that, I have no questions.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

404741, Q100. Intern Brandon has a question right off the bat. Yeah, I was out at the mall not too long ago and I've seen.

[Jeff]

Are you asking a question of black people or white people?

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Of white people. Okay, he already told us he's offended by that. First off, Jeff, you remember the story Melissa did about the guy who beat up his coworker with baton 1015 in the parking lot? I was at the mall and I've seen this a couple of times before. White people have a certain way of when their kids being bad in public, more so asking them not to be bad. She was like, billy, please stop. Mommy needs you to be good today. Why do white people do that? Cause all the black people I've been around, mama just smack you up in

[Natalie]

the middle of public.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Bianca had the same question, and I think this is an easy answer. I gotta be honest with you that there has been times where white kids, after being, like, slapped by their parents, will call the police on their own parents or like, yes, that's not why

[Melissa]

white people do that.

[Jeff]

I don't think that's why white people.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

I think they're afraid that other people are gonna see it, that you're giving your kid a smack or something. The police is gonna be called. Whereas I don't think that happens with black people.

[Jeff]

I think you started that sentence properly. I think they were afraid. I think that as a whole, white people don't have the confidence that black people have when it comes to dealing with personal issues. So the white person doesn't want to smack their kid on the bottom and have other people look around and go, oh, my God, I couldn't discipline their kid. They had to smack their kid. That's abusive. Whatever. Whereas black people are like, I will smack my kid, and if you want to call me on it, I will smack you too.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

We don't want to be judged.

[Carl]

Call the police.

[Jeff]

Yeah, you call the police, and I'll tell the police what my kid lipped off to me.

[Carl]

Oh, yeah, My mom has said it plenty of times. Call the police if you want to call them.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Yeah. I think white people are really scared that that's actually going to happen.

[Melissa]

In general, I think they just spoil their kids. I think their kids are spoiled rotten more than black kids are.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

You think so?

[Melissa]

Just spoil them.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Yeah, of course.

[Carl]

I want to piggyback off that question. I want to ask, why do white people talk back to their parents?

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Why do I.

[Wendy]

That's not every white person. That's not my family. And Millie didn't care if she smacked me in public. So, yeah, it's not all white people.

[Melissa]

No.

[Wendy]

I would never talk back to my parents.

[Joanna]

I would never sass my dad to

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

get up on that mic a little bit more here, man. Good morning. Janelle, you're on Q100. Hi.

[Natalie]

Good morning, Bircho.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

What's going on?

[Natalie]

I was curious as to why black people pronounce the word ask. Ax. And I love Carl, but he pronounces it that way as well.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

I say X, you say, yeah, we did this on, like. Like six months ago, and you didn't even realize you were saying ax instead of.

[Jeff]

Except it bothered him for, like, 48 hours. Hey, Jeff, can I ask you if I. If you got a $1 bill for the vending machine?

[Carl]

You know what? That's a good question that you sound black. Are you black?

[Natalie]

I am.

[Carl]

Do you say. How do you say it? You say ask.

[Natalie]

Ask. Yes.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Well, that's how it's spelled. That's how it's. It's not. It's a S K. What did I just say?

[Jeff]

Ask.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Yeah. Well, you Ask her how she pronounces it, but it's pronounced the way it's spelled.

[Carl]

A S, K. Say it one more time.

[Natalie]

Ask.

[Wendy]

Ask.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

You try it.

[Carl]

Ask.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

There you go.

[Wendy]

You said it right.

[Carl]

That's how I normally say it, right?

[Jeff]

No, you normally say X.

[Melissa]

Normally. Normally it's like it's sped up.

[Jeff]

You, like, you flip the K and the S. So it's like pronounce the word ask.

[Carl]

Yeah, ask.

[Natalie]

Ask.

[Jeff]

Okay, now pronounce A X, E X. That's what you normally say.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

You usually say ax. I was getting frustrated about this.

[Jeff]

Carl's like, I didn't. Was going to be a spelling bee. Could you use it in a sentence? Origin of the word, please?

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Brandon, do you say ask or ask? I say ask. Ask. I make sure I pronounce.

[Natalie]

Natalie, I think I say it correctly.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Do you? Carl's looking at y' all like I am saying it.

[Melissa]

Say it.

[Carl]

Ask.

[Jeff]

But this is the same problem that we had with.

[Melissa]

Are you afraid to say it, Natalie?

[Wendy]

I am now.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

I'm just more conscious of it.

[Carl]

I think I want to ask a question.

[Melissa]

There you go.

[Jeff]

But this is the same thing. Remember when Joanna was in here and she said pizza?

[Joanna]

She's a realize.

[Jeff]

Or Wendy, when Wendy said frustrated.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

But that's not the way they say.

[Wendy]

You say rune, but that's one individual. A lot of times there's a lot of black people that say ass.

[Jeff]

But what I'm saying is when, like, Carl's so shocked, but like, we've called Joanna on that, and she's like, well, what do you mean? We're like, you're saying. You are saying pizza. And she's like, no, I'm not. I'm saying pizza, right? Pizza. And she's like, yeah, pizza. Yeah. That's not right.

[Carl]

I just say it.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Carl, you've got a question for white people.

[Carl]

I had a question. Now, this. This may not seem like a regular question, but going through Buckhead, going through some of the white neighborhoods, Buckhead and Vinings, whatever the white neighborhoods saw, I noticed that y' all leave y' all blinds open. Why in the hell do you not close your blinds at night?

[Melissa]

I don't get that either. That is just gross to me. That's like more suburban. Yeah, I don't know.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

It's gross.

[Melissa]

It's gross to me because it's like exhibitionists or something like that. I don't want to see you in your house walking around.

[Wendy]

I don't care if you clothes on or not.

[Melissa]

Melissa, do you do it at nighttime? You can see in.

[Natalie]

Yeah, I do.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

White people are nosy, too, so they can't help but look at my clothes. Did you hear what Brandon just said? That white people are nosy, so they can't help but look at it.

[Carl]

Oh, boy.

[Melissa]

I think it's a trusting thing because I think if you are like in the. In the burbs or whatever, you don't mind people looking in your house and seeing your big screen tv. Where I live, I don't want anybody

[Carl]

seeing my big screen TV closing that sundown.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Right.

[Jeff]

Jen actually brings her big screen TV to work every day. She carries it up from her car.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Here is Nicole. Good morning. You are on Nicole, the Burt Show. Ask a race.

[Natalie]

Hey, y'. All. I love you. Okay, I just want to know why are white women obsessed with their boobies and getting them enhanced and done?

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Yeah, why are white women obsessed with boob jobs, Wendy?

[Joanna]

I guess because you. I mean, I don't have my boobs done, but I would like my boobs done. No, because I don't know, that's just what we think guys want to see are bigger boobs.

[Melissa]

What'd you say?

[Natalie]

Heidi Montag looks a mess.

[Wendy]

Oh, she is a mess.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

She is a mess.

[Joanna]

She doesn't represent me or the majority of.

[Wendy]

I will say girls. I will say that, you know, there's a stereotype that black guys, like, you know, you know, like, back woman. White boys always talk about boobs. And so I just think women are self conscious if they don't have big boobs because they think that guys. Because that's what Wendy was saying, that white guys seem to want boobs.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

I have seen black women walk into Dolvett's gym and ask how they're. They can make their butts bigger, which to a white woman is crazy talk. But to a black woman, it's like, what do I gotta do? How many more lunges do I have to do to get a bigger butt?

[Carl]

Actually, my wife, she's proud that my daughters have a butt. She's like, proud. That's like a proud thing. Like, yeah, my little babies. I see a little booty on them.

[Wendy]

So for white guys, they like the boobs.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Okay, I have a question that Carl couldn't answer for me earlier. But astrology seems to be much more important to black people than it does white people.

[Melissa]

Oh, yeah. Because I was saying, like, shouts out to my Aquarius, whatever, you know?

[Carl]

You know what?

[Melissa]

All my Sagittarius is out there or whatever. Like it. And it's almost like more like Club promotions and stuff like that at the black clubs or like based around horoscology.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Like my friend Griffin, my friend Griff was gonna come in here and do this, right? And he texted me back the other day and he's like, I can't come in, but I've got a stand up comic friend that would be great for you. And he's a Libra like me, so you're gonna love him. I'm like, what does that have to

[Carl]

do with anything, right? You know, I don't know. I can't answer that really. But I do. It is true. Because there's songs like Capricorn, Capricorn shouts out. You know, there's songs like that. So I don't know really.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

I think you see how black people take religion and the belief of a higher power to the second degree. If you ever been to a black church, they really spiritual.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

So I think the higher power thing, they just grasp on to the higher power and go with.

[Melissa]

But if you're, if you're religious, then astrology would be the anti.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Well, I think it's just a belief in any sort of higher power or anything like that. They grasp onto it. Here is Ashley.

[Melissa]

Conflicting to me though, it seems like if you are, you know, Bible beating on and, you know, praising Jesus on a Sunday, on Monday, talking about how you're a Pisces would be butting heads with each other.

[Jeff]

Jen, you're an Aries. You'll never be able to write.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

And it gets you into free clubs Friday night too. You care about your astrology. That would never be like a promotional point for a white person's night. Like, come on out of here in Aries, right?

[Carl]

Oh, Gemini's free.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Never. Really.

[Jeff]

Guys who come up to the club and go, I think I'm a Scorpio or Sagittarius.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

I'm the bull.

[Natalie]

No, no, no, no.

[Jeff]

I'm a Taurus. Is that one.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

I'm the bull looking thing. What is that?

[Jeff]

Whatever's free tonight.

[Natalie]

That's what I am.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Here's Ashley. Good morning, Ashley. You're on the Birch Show. Ask a race.

[Natalie]

Good morning. How are you?

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Good, how are you?

[Natalie]

I'm great. I would like to know if black women's hair is a different texture than white women's and if so, if that's why they always use weave and put stuff in their hair and never wear it natural.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

It's a great question, Natalie.

[Carl]

Of course it is a different texture. Of course, we do have to permanent

[Jeff]

straight, you know, keep it, keep it

[Carl]

Pressed in order to comb it easily.

[Jeff]

But as far as the weave and extensions, it's just to have longer hair.

[Carl]

It's like we want to fling it too.

[Melissa]

Why do you want to have straight hair? Why not let it, why not let it be curly?

[Carl]

Because it's easier to comb in the morning. In the morning?

[Natalie]

It will take a lot less time.

[Melissa]

It's not trying to have white hair, trying to like, conform or straighten.

[Jeff]

Trying to sleep an extra 30 minutes.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

That's exactly.

[Jeff]

I don't know, it's not trying to be, but I know that that's easier to comb.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

That's what that whole Chris Rock movie was about. Really, at the end of the day was about that.

[Carl]

Yeah. And that's the thing that me, we debate about that. Like my daughters, you know, they. I want their hair to be more natural. You know, my wife, she does it more. I'm like, baby, let it fro up, you know, so. That's a good question, Jen. I've always wanted that to come through

[Jeff]

that stuff in the morning.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

What would it look like if you didn't do anything at all with your hair? What would it look like?

[Jeff]

It would be a big fro and

[Carl]

it's hard to comb through in the morning. It's like a dude's fro.

[Jeff]

All you gotta do is one morning when you come in, Bert, just throw a big old bucket of water on Natalie.

[Natalie]

Yeah, right.

[Jeff]

And run for your life. And then come find her at 10 o' clock and see what it looks like.

[Melissa]

Why do you have to comb through it in the morning? Like, why can't it just be, I don't know. Wasn't there that big, like, resurgence in the 60s and 70s where black African American women were just like letting it go fro and enjoying it and sort of doing it that way?

[Carl]

Yeah, it was, but it's just, it's

[Natalie]

a preference for me.

[Jeff]

I just would rather comb it in the morning.

[Natalie]

Rather have it straight and curved.

[Melissa]

I'm just trying to get to the roots of it. What's the roots of wanting to make it.

[Wendy]

Oh, you had to bring up roots, huh?

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Roots.

[Wendy]

Of course you did. Yeah. 70s fro roots. Got it. I'm just kidding.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

You guys have any more questions for white people?

[Carl]

Mine was, was, was camping. What's the obsession with camping? I've never been camping a day in

[Wendy]

my life closer to nature.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

You're nature man. You got the stars. You're sort of roughing it.

[Wendy]

It's rugged.

[Joanna]

You don't shower. You get to make your own breakfast.

[Wendy]

Yes, Alone. You're not much of a germ phobe to camp, aren't you?

[Carl]

Yeah, man, come on now. I'm not trying to see a bear.

[Jeff]

Carl's sweeping the dirt before he puts the tent on it because he's got to keep it clean.

[Carl]

And we camp out in our backyard. I put up a tent and that's our camping ground right there, baby.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Hey, Shannon. Go ahead, you're on Q100.

[Natalie]

Yes. I just wanted to ask black people a question about going to the movies.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Natalie]

I'm curious why it seems like they continue to talk through the entire movie or play their cell phones and they always over exaggerate every reaction to a movie. Like overlap or scream really, really loud three or four times instead of just, you know, jump in their seat. And it makes it very difficult to.

[Melissa]

Who wants to take that one?

[Carl]

We're just emotional. I mean, we real expressive. We're very expressive. The way we dress, the way we talk, the way we walk. We're real expressive and we're gonna express it in the movies, at home, wherever we are. We do at the house too. The exact same thing. You should come to a family reunion. A black folks family reunion. Oh boy.

[Wendy]

Can I come to the next one?

[Carl]

Yeah, definitely.

[Wendy]

I mean, Katie and I have told this before. Katie and I now when it. Especially when it comes to horror movies, we are only going to black theaters because it is a much better experience to go see a movie. Especially if it's a scary movie in a black theater, in a white one or a theater.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Like when you and I, we saw the Tyler Perry Broadway show here at the Fox. And that's about 90% black people in there. As a white person, I had the best time of my life in a theater. Cause it is all out. You don't have to hide anything.

[Jeff]

I think it goes back to what I was saying earlier too about the kids in the store. Like, I think white people have more of a concern with other people. Think of them.

[Wendy]

We're more self conscious repression.

[Jeff]

Yeah. So even if you're in a horror movie and something's scares you and you're like, ah, oh, I'm in a theater, I can't talk.

[Wendy]

You know, that would be too loud.

[Melissa]

Because I think the same question could be asked of white people. Why don't you express yourself enough? Why in the movies do you never laugh out loud? You know, why do you repress all this emotion rather than expressing it? Because she said, why do you over exaggerate? It's not over exaggerating. It's how they feel.

[Carl]

And they're not letting it out.

[Melissa]

Yeah, it's just letting it out rather than repressing it.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Why don't white people loosen up? Is that what you'd like to say,

[Jeff]

like, loosen up, white people?

[Carl]

You know, I'm thinking the same thing. Like. Like when I. When I've gone to a white theater, it's kind of like you. You hear everything. Don't get me wrong, I come to the movie to watch it, but it's kind of boring, I think.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

I can't remember exactly who was in the group when we went to a concert together, but Dolvett, my friend Dolvett was there, and he's like.

[Wendy]

He looked around.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

He's like, how come no white people dance at a concert?

[Carl]

Right, Right.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Nobody moving. Nobody dancing at all.

[Jeff]

Dolvett, this is Bette Midler. Sit down.

[Wendy]

Oh, honey, The Begay boys be dancing. Bette Midler.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Here, Burcha.

[Jeff]

The Bird show.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Here is producer Joanna.

[Joanna]

Hi, everyone. How are you guys doing?

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

As soon as I turn her mic

[Jeff]

on, Sickening of my own. Over. Joanna gets no respect.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

We've had this talk on the air before. Not with Joanna, but the recession, man, is making you do things right now that you normally would not do.

[Wendy]

Yep.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

And adjusts in a way that you normally would not have to adjust. And Joanna's right in the thick of it right now.

[Joanna]

I am. And I think we have had this conversation before. It was, like, right when I was making the decision to move back home with my parents because financially, I cannot afford to live on my own. And, yeah, I had the roommate for a while, but I was, like, constantly having to find a new roommate every year. So I decided, you know what? I'm going to rent my house and I'm going to move back home with my parents for the time being.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

You're how old?

[Joanna]

I'm 26.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

I'll say it like that.

[Jeff]

She's saying it like somebody punched her in the chest.

[Melissa]

Oh, no.

[Wendy]

I think she thinks I should be financially secure by 26. Is that what that was from?

[Joanna]

Yes, that was a. I shouldn't be in this position at 26. You know, maybe if I was 23, just out of college. Yeah. Move back home for a little while. You know, figure out life. I should have life figured out at 26. Somewhat.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

But recession's changed everything.

[Jeff]

Well, you didn't. I think you've done a good job. I think you've got it figured out. You're about to marry a guy who's Going to Emory. Like, you're pretty set. You're good.

[Joanna]

I'm waiting for him to get his MBA so that I can just sit at home.

[Jeff]

So get your Mrs. He gets his mba, you get your Mrs. Everybody's happy.

[Joanna]

I'm pretending to be ambitious, so he's like, oh, baby, you're just ambitious. If you want to stay at home for a little while, it's fine.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

But the recession really has changed everything. Like Melissa's stance on the whole thing, because you know how Melissa loves consistency.

[Wendy]

That's right.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Is that, you know, once you leave, bye, bye, that's it. There's no coming back.

[Wendy]

But, yeah, well, during a recession, no. I mean, all bets are off. I mean, my sister is. Is laid off in having to find a job. And so. And I have several friends who are trying to find a job. I mean, and so it's all ages, it's all backgrounds. It's, you know, the recession is not being prejudiced against one, you know, gender or one income level or another. And so you have. Do what you have to do to survive.

[Joanna]

Well, and so that's what I did. I had to move back home. I moved back in January, and I. It's been fine. You know, my parents don't really bother me. We barely see each other, really, because our schedules are so different. And I probably see them just in passing sometimes. But last week, they did something that I made me realize that I need to either get a third job or just, you know, figure something out, because I don't know how much longer I can put up with this. And so especially if Jason and I aren't gonna live together until we're married. So I sometimes. Occasionally I go to Columbus to see Jason on the weekends. My fiance, he lives two hours from here, so that's the only time we see each other, is on the weekends. I've never had to tell anybody where I'm going or what I'm doing. So I just packed my things that morning and left and went to Columbus. Got there, and I was so exhausted that day. When I got to his house, I put. Fell asleep.

[Jeff]

Is this on a Friday?

[Joanna]

This was on a Friday.

[Jeff]

You did the show then? You didn't work your other job?

[Joanna]

No, I went straight to Columbus.

[Jeff]

So you were there by what time?

[Joanna]

I was there at like, 2.

[Jeff]

You left this house at what time?

[Joanna]

I left the house at five in the morning.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Joanna]

So fell asleep and didn't think much of it. Well, all of a sudden, my phone just starts to blow up, and I didn't answer because I was asleep. Then Jason's phone starts to blow up, and he. After maybe the fourth or fifth time someone called, he answered. And I heard him in the other room, and it was my mom. And she was calling. She was like, where's Joanna? She didn't call me, and I'm worried about her. And he's, like, telling her, like, whoa, sorry. You know, she's here. And she's like, well, next time she needs to call me, because I don't know where she is. And I worry about her. I just love her so much.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Is that your mom's accent right there? That's your first time? Yeah, I love it. Yeah.

[Joanna]

And I just get so mad because I was like, I am 26. Like, I don't know. I don't have to tell you where I'm going or what I'm doing. And so she and I. And I had to calm down before I called her back. Cause I was so pissed off about it. But then I realized she's still my mom. She still worries about me.

[Wendy]

You've talked. I mean, before you had to move back in with your parents, you had talked before about, you know, Jason being in Columbus and you going down there often. So in the times in the past that you've gone to see him, have you called them and told them where you're going and I'm leaving, and I'll call you when I get down there. And all the. So the rules have changed since you've moved back home?

[Melissa]

Yes.

[Wendy]

Okay.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Melissa]

I think that's okay, though, is the case.

[Jeff]

Did you inadvertently tell them, like, you would say, jason and I are going out in Columbus this weekend? Or without realizing it, that you communicated to them. So your expectation is, well, they know I go to Columbus after I work on the bird show every Friday. It's what I do. And their expectation is you've told them every week before. Right.

[Joanna]

Well, the thing is, it's not consistent. It's not every Friday. It's like, sometime he comes to Columbus, and sometimes they'll ask me, like, oh, is Jason coming up this weekend? Or things like that. And I guess I just. It slipped my mind, and I just. It irritates me. And then, you know, now every time I go somewhere, my mom's calling me now, and she's like, hey, are you coming home to have dinner? And it's weird because I'm like, I shouldn't be going through this. I think your parents now know your schedule, though. So when you're not there, they're Gonna obviously get worried about you like a roommate would.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Here's Rosemary. Good morning Rosemary. You're on Q100.

[Natalie]

Hi. I was just gonna tell you that I'm gonna be 26 and I moved home with my parents too. I work full time, I'm in school full time. So there's no shame at all.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

We can take these calls for the next two hours.

[Jeff]

I think the answer is I think Rosemary and Joanna talks. I think Rosemary moves into your parents house and you move into Rosemary's parents house. Then they don't really care. That's right, they totally won't care.

[Wendy]

But the thing is your parents haven't done this, right?

[Joanna]

No, this is not their usual. They've never done that. I mean, I've lived on my own since I was 19 years old. I showed up at the house with a U Haul truck, put all my stuff in the U haul and moved out and I never came home until January of this year.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Were y' all cocky too about it at 19 I am never coming back here. I'm not under your roof, in your control anymore.

[Wendy]

You can't tell me what's going to

[Natalie]

check up on me all the time.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Hey Michelle, good morning. You're on the bird show.

[Natalie]

Good morning. I'm 50 years old and I still tell a family member when I'm leaving town, really when I'm going someplace and I have a 23 year old who lives on her own and if she goes out of town she calls me. Not because she has to, but because she needs to have somebody know where she is. And then that way when I'm trying to reach her, I know that she's safe. I know she's someplace where she's supposed to be. If you disappear for a weekend or you disappear for a week, somebody should know where you are.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

You just got chewed up by your mind.

[Wendy]

But the thing is it's a change in behavior. We've talked before about moving back in at home. And my argument in the past, when it's not in recession and when the recession's over, I'll be right back in the same place, is that if you move back in home, it's your response to take care of your stuff around the house. Like there's some people that non recession that would move back in home and

[Melissa]

expect food to be cooked for them,

[Wendy]

their laundry be done for them and all this stuff. But on the same token, your parents, you also have to know that if the child is moving back in then you can't be their parent. You know like you were when they were a teenager anymore. You have to kind of hold yourself back. So I think, I mean, I think as we're saying, this is a change in behavior. This is not, you know, a common thing that her mom has done.

[Melissa]

And I think it's short term. I think you've gotta just like hang out and deal with it for a little while until you get married. I don't think that they'll do that.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

It's only four years.

[Melissa]

And when you live with your husband, they're gonna be looking out for you and that he's checking on you and that he's gonna be the one that's worried about you and knows your whereabouts and all that kind of stuff. I don't think it's gonna continue when you move out and are married with your husband. It's only gonna be this short period of time.

[Joanna]

Right. And I don't think so either. It's just the fact that this is gonna start happening and going to New York next week, I'm gonna have to tell them, oh, I'm leaving for New York.

[Jeff]

You know, what's wrong with that?

[Joanna]

Because I never had to answer to any girl.

[Jeff]

Yeah, but wouldn't you have the same conversation? Like, when I'm traveling, like, I still tell my parents not out of. They need to know where I am. Like, if I'm having a conversation with my parents.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Do you?

[Wendy]

I do, but I keep reiterating this is a change in behavior. Like, this is not Joanna and her mother's relationship up to this point. She hasn't been telling her every time she goes out town. I do.

[Jeff]

I think when Mother's Day rolls around, you need to gift wrap your mom some respect. The bird show.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

The bird show. Let's get producer Carl in here. Carl, this is the first time really that I have ever seen the example of like one person in an entire family sort of acting as the patriarch for not only his own house, but, like, it seems to me, Carl, like, you're the go to dude for your brother's and your sister's kids. And everybody comes to Carl, man, I

[Carl]

don't want to make it seem like that, but I think I'm the most talkative. Like, I'll talk to my brother. How real up front. So I'll talk to my brother, my sister, the exact same way. I'll go to my dad, I'll go to my mom. Hey, why? Why did this happen? So I'm that one of us five. So I think that's probably what it is, really.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

In a case like this, you've got kind of a tie to your nephew here that's coming to you for help, right?

[Carl]

Oh, yeah, man. I got three kids. But before I have my kids, I have my nephews. I have like 15 training ground. Oh, yeah. I love them like my kids, so. Excuse me, but. So I get a call from my nephew the other day about prom. So they're all starting to get around that age where, I mean, I have nieces and nephews from 21 to 3, so they're. Some of my older nephews are getting to that age where they're starting to get more involved with different issues that I'm gonna have to really address. Like my other nephew had issues with gangs and all kind of stuff. But this nephew right here, he called me about the promotion. So his whole thing is my sister, she's real. Like I said, I'm the real go to real direct guy. My sister's real mellow, non materialistic, just real cool and easy about mostly everything. And so she thinks that my nephew wants to go to the prom and do it big for the most part. And so she feels that, you know, there's a limit on it.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

See, when you're going to prom and you're what, 17 years old, you think there's never ever gonna be a day in your life bigger than this. This is it right here.

[Wendy]

This is what I've been working towards.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Downside. That's right. Other end of the prom side of your life.

[Melissa]

That's right.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Gotta go big or go home.

[Carl]

That's exact. That's exactly what he said too. He said, oh, man, I got a favor, man. Either I gotta go big or I'm going home. That's exactly what he's told me, right? So I said, all right, man, what do you need? So my nephews, it's not even a question of. Of what they need. It's whatever they need. What you, you know, I'll do it for you.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Uncle Carl's gonna take care of.

[Carl]

Yeah, whatever it is, man. Because I've always wished I had that cool uncle. So me and my brother, we. That guy. So whatever my. My nephews and nieces call for, whatever, dude. So he called me.

[Jeff]

I want Carl to be my uncle. More specifically, I want Carl's credit card

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

to be my uncle.

[Carl]

But he asked me for a couple of more bucks, right? So he says his mom is not feeling him wanting to do it the way he wants to do it. So I'm like, man, whatever you want to do. So he wants to get, like, the limo. After the limo, he wants to get a drop convertible caddy. You know, he wants to. Instead of the regular tuxedo shoes, he wants to get alligator shoes. So he wants to go hard. Now, mind you, alligator shoes is real popular up in Michigan. My nephew's up in Michigan. So he wants to get the gators. He wants to go hard, get the cane. So he said that his mom.

[Melissa]

How cute. Is he gonna match with his prom date, too?

[Carl]

Oh, I'm sure.

[Melissa]

Like, he's gonna match his tie to her dress.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Of course he is. This is the biggest night of his life forever.

[Carl]

Oh, yeah. And my nephew. I promise you, this nephew got flavor. I mean, flavor across the board. So I know how he's gonna do it.

[Wendy]

So anybody that brings a cane to prom.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Melissa]

Or just the whole white suit.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

You know, like, suit and a cane.

[Carl]

But, yeah, he's. He's gonna do a real flashy. So he called me for a couple extra bucks. I'm like, man, whatever he asked for, I think he asked. He started for 50, but I knew he was teetering.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

50? Yeah. What's 50 gonna get you nowadays?

[Carl]

Yeah, basically, he's been doing it hard his own self. He's been. He's worked, so he's got his own cash. So he just.

[Wendy]

Yeah, he's been saving up for this big money.

[Jeff]

And how many other uncles in the family is he giving the same story to? And getting 50 and 50 from him?

[Carl]

I thought about that. I thought about. But it's only me and my brother, so whatever, man. He can get it. So he asked for a couple extra bucks. So I sent the dude 200. Whatever, man.

[Jeff]

Do it nice.

[Carl]

However big you want to go, do it hard.

[Wendy]

So I get a little pictures of this.

[Carl]

I get a little slack from my. I didn't get slack from my wife, but she says she thinks that I should tell my sister about it. I'm like, whatever. I'm not gonna tell my sister about it. It's like, I'm the second dude. I'm the second dad. You know? He didn't. And then he also said, don't tell my. Don't tell mom, man. You know how she be dressed?

[Jeff]

Ripping.

[Carl]

I'm like, okay, I know.

[Jeff]

Did you tell him that you were sending more than he asked for, or did he just get the envelope and open it up and there were four bills in there?

[Carl]

I just sent it to him, actually, I wired it to him, too, man.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

So, yeah, I want to do it hard.

[Jeff]

That's the prom baby. Seen his face when he was standing at that counter in the Publix up in Michigan. That wire comes through, I didn't think that anybody.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

I didn't think anybody wired money. Unless your friend is about to get killed because of an outstanding debt, I need the money by noon. Wire it to me.

[Jeff]

You're 17 years old. Because everything's that urgent when you're 17 years old.

[Carl]

That's exactly what he said, too. I said, man, I'm gonna put it in the mail for you. He said, man, I thought you was going like Western Union or something. I said, what you know about West Union, first of all?

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

So he said he didn't want his mom to know. And your wife's. Now she's got to know because you gave him a little extra bump.

[Carl]

Yeah, but I don't think it's necessary. You know, it's like, is his dad

[Joanna]

involved in his life?

[Carl]

Yeah, his dad is there, but he doesn't want any of them to know because his dad is cool. His dad is the. What basically mentored me, so I understand how it is. So his dad's not gonna really triple. He just wants to do it on his own. He just wants to make them think that he's doing it on his own and he's gonna go big.

[Jeff]

He's doing it on his own. He called up uncle. He hustled uncle.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

I don't know.

[Jeff]

He even moved it from putting a, you know, what, 30 cent stamp on it to spending 20 bucks on a Western Union.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Right?

[Carl]

Cursed me into wiring it.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

See, I understand the dude code aspect of the whole thing. Like, you're the cool uncle and he's a nephew and he's asked for your own little bonding thing. But the fact that he said, don't tell mom.

[Carl]

I thought about that.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Made it a secret. And now I think maybe your wife is right. That almost like Mom's gotta know because

[Joanna]

you don't want to ask your parents for anything. So you go to anybody else you can find in the family to ask for money.

[Jeff]

I know why.

[Joanna]

First person you avoid.

[Jeff]

I know why he said, don't tell mom. Because at some point when they were talking about it, he said, mom, I need 50 more dollars because I want to get, you know, these shoes to go with my tux or whatever it was. He said. And she said, I've given you enough. You've saved enough. You're gonna have a good enough time. He goes, well, I'm gonna call Carl. And she said, don't call Carl. You're not calling anybody else. You're gonna have a great prom. Everything's cool. And he said, okay. And then the next day when mom wasn't home, he picked up the phone, he called Carl.

[Wendy]

Is he gonna hide? Like, I'm trying to figure out how he's gonna keep it from his parents. Let's say you don't talk to your sister and that he goes to promise he gonna. Like, how is he gonna hide that money that spending from him? Or is he gonna try? Or is he.

[Carl]

Well, I don't. I think that he'll just assume that they think that he made it himself, all right? Because they know he's a real. He's a stand up dude. He's not really like a, you know, bum anything. So he. He has a bunch of hustle. So it wouldn't be a surprise that he could come up with all of this.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

So he's working hard for his money. So this is almost like a reward for working hard because you almost did it all by yourself. Definitely. He did do it.

[Jeff]

He worked hard for that money.

[Melissa]

I think it's okay. You get the excuse. You're the uncle. It's like grandparents. You can spoil them.

[Carl]

And he has a new girlfriend. Anna.

[Melissa]

Hurt.

[Carl]

She's fine. My nephew.

[Jeff]

Good job getting him that hotel room.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

The bird show. Hey, the bird show. All right, let's back up for just a second here, because it was a few weeks ago that Lee called us and she wanted the wedding dress that her mom wore in her wedding, but mom had passed away.

[Natalie]

I'm engaged, and I am supposed to get married in September. Okay? So my mom died a few years ago, and she promised my older sister the. Her wedding dress that my mom got married in. But now my sister is not with that guy anymore. She doesn't even have a boyfriend. She's kind of nowhere near getting married. I really, really, really want the dress.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

All right, so then big sis came on and she basically said, hey, this is the way my mom wanted it, right? And there was a weird, like, tone

[Wendy]

of, well, big sister had said something to the effect that her mom loved, you know, because her big sister was engaged at the time. The mother granted her the wedding dress and wanted her to have it and said, oh, she loved my fiance and everything. And I think Jeff's the one that picked up on the fact that. Wait a second. Well, what do you think about your little sister's fiance? And it just kind of came to light that the older sister felt like she was reflecting what the mother would think about. He's a Hispanic man, and the mother would not approve. And so that's why the sister wasn't giving her the wedding dress.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

So we sort of put that to bed, and we got older sister on, and she's like, no, I feel very strongly about this. No, no, no, no. I have the dress, and I'll wear it when I'm getting married. Well, then the email came in either last night or this morning from younger sister Lee here, and things changed a little bit.

[Wendy]

Okay.

[Natalie]

Hey, Lee. Hi.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Good morning. How are you?

[Natalie]

I'm well. How are you guys?

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Good. You just sound happier since the last time we had yachts.

[Natalie]

Well, it looks like I'm getting the dress.

[Melissa]

Awesome. That's so great.

[Wendy]

What happened?

[Natalie]

Well, a couple days ago, my sister actually came over after work with the dress in hand and handed it right to me. And I was like, what? But, you know, what happened was a change of heart all of a sudden. And she said that she had a dream the night before that. My mother came to her and said, you should give her the dress. I want her to have the dress, and I would want her to have the dress. And that was it. And she felt like my mom was really coming to her through the dream. And I don't know if I believe in that or it was her own, you know, like, psyche or unconscious or whatever that was telling her that that's the right thing to do. But either way, I think it's true. I think my mom would have wanted me to have the dress.

[Wendy]

Not to be disrespectful, but, you know, if it's true, it's kind of freaky. Your mom listens to the bird show.

[Melissa]

That's a little freaky.

[Wendy]

And that's.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

I don't think we get rated on that.

[Wendy]

Yeah, I don't think we get rated from, you know, other worlds, but that's, you know, kind of cool.

[Melissa]

The ghost hunters always tell us that they communicate through technology. You know, wow.

[Jeff]

With the new ppm, we'll take anything. We can get a whole sense of

[Wendy]

responsibility in that one.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

The fish will not be happy that we are getting high ratings in heaven. It's true.

[Wendy]

Oh, boy.

[Jeff]

Well, nobody said her mom's in heaven.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Oh, Jeff.

[Melissa]

It's horrible.

[Jeff]

Just saying high pitch.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

So she came to you and she said she thought this was, like, almost a ghostly thing.

[Natalie]

Yeah, she really felt. She said it was so vivid, and it just seemed. It felt so real. And she really felt like my mom. Our mom came to her to tell her that.

[Melissa]

I believe that stuff. I totally believe that. Has your mom come to you and give you a high five in your dream?

[Natalie]

No, I wish. I miss her.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Well, I think that was the question, too, you know, I mean, I think we asked, what would your mom say? What would she think if she was looking down on all this? Like so.

[Wendy]

Wow.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Well, that's. That's good news for you.

[Wendy]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

Pictures in the dress.

[Melissa]

Hold on. I want to know if you heard the comments that your sister made about your fiance.

[Natalie]

Yeah, I did. My sister ended up talking to me about it.

[Melissa]

Okay.

[Natalie]

And this is a Columbia. My mom was super traditional, but at the same time, I know that if. If she had met my fiance, it would have. All of that would have disappeared in a hot minute, you know, she would have seen how happy I was and in love or am how happy I am, and she would have been able to let go of her stuff, you know?

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Sure.

[Carl]

Well, good for you.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

I mean, it's all turned out. The bird show is never quite sure what to do with a really good, positive, sort of wrapped in a nice little bow ending. We got it.

[Wendy]

So we're gonna hang up, and we

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

never want to hear from you ever again.

[Melissa]

I do want to see you in your dress. I do want to see you in your dress. If you can send us a picture from your wedding day, we'd love it.

[Natalie]

Definitely. Definitely.

[Wendy]

Congratulations.

[Natalie]

Okay, thank you.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Thanks for the update, Lee. Appreciate it.

[Natalie]

Bye.

[Host (possibly Bert or Bircho)]

Bye. Bye. The third show.