Full Show PT 3: Wednesday, June 3 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show – Full Show PT 3: Wednesday, June 3 [Vault]

Date: June 3, 2026
Podcast Theme:
This episode of The Bert Show dives deep into how relationships intersect with family opinions, the boundaries of monogamy and dating, and emotionally charged listener call-ins about cheating, breakups, and forgiveness. The show maintains its signature candid, humorous, and empathetic tone while exploring complex personal issues, encouraging listener participation and offering validation—and a little tough love—along the way.

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Major Segments & Discussion Points

1. Navigating Holidays with Your Partner’s Family

[00:30 – 04:00]

• Joanna’s Experience: Joanna recounts her first Christmas away from her parents, navigating new family traditions with her boyfriend Jason in Florida.
  • “It was just different and just weird. Not weird, but just uncomfortable maybe.” – Joanna [00:36]
• Influence of Parental Opinions: The group discusses whether parental opinions should dictate the fate of a relationship.
  • If Jason’s dad disapproved, “He means so much to him. He talks about his dad every day. So, yeah.” – Joanna [03:27]
• Host Reflection: Parental objectivity and increased credibility as children mature.
  • “As you get older and as you mature, you go, ‘OK, mom and dad are looking out for my best interests.’” – Panelist [03:43]

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2. Listeners Share: When Parents Make or Break Your Relationship

[05:00 – 11:10]

• Caller Barry: Married nine years after in-laws initially disapproved.
  • “They all told her, get away from this guy… Now they love me.” – Barry [05:07]
• Caller Lauren: Relies on her parents’ judgment after past mistakes.
  • Parents accurately sense a boyfriend is married: “They just put everything together that quick, and they were absolutely right.” – Lauren [06:55]
• Caller Mark: Girlfriend’s parents severed their relationship for mysterious reasons.
  • “I have no idea to this day what it is. I’m very respectful.” – Mark [08:25]
• Host’s curiosity: Proposes a follow-up to learn what parents actually said [09:56]

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3. When Parental Red Flags Prove True

[10:11 – 11:11]

• Caller Allison: Parents refuse her entry home until she breaks up with a boyfriend they find “shady.”
  • “Being 18 years old and not being allowed to come back to my house, I did break up with him a couple months later and realized it was for the best.” – Allison [10:35]
• Panelist Commentary: Parental interference can sometimes be tough but necessary.

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4. On-Air Public Apology: Pauline’s Proposal & Break-Up Story

[11:40 – 23:50]

• Pauline’s Confession: After declining her boyfriend Justin’s marriage proposal due to fear of commitment, Pauline hooks up with another man during a two-week break, doesn’t initially confess, and is outed by a friend.
  • “If you were to propose to me right now, I would completely accept.” – Pauline [14:51]
  • “I just realized that I’m completely wrong. I should have told him.” – Pauline [13:54]
• Listeners Weigh In: Varied responses about whether Pauline was truly in the wrong for a rebound while “on a break.”
  • “You can’t say that because he was so devastated. I mean, he needed time…you don’t go out and do that.” – Charles [17:11]
  • “If it was a guy…the guys would say, ‘What are you doing?!’” – Panelist [18:58]
• Pauline’s Final Message: “I just want you to know that I realize I’ve made the mistake…once I do it, I’m committed for life.” [23:33]

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5. The Reality of Serial Monogamy and the Struggle to "Date Like a Man"

[24:23 – 36:48]

• Jen’s Dilemma: Post-divorce, Jen tries to date multiple men (“dating is a verb”) but naturally veers toward monogamy.
  • “Once I’m interested in someone, I want to spend more and more time with them…as things progress and become more intimate, I have a harder time with continuing to date other people.” – Jen [27:54]
• Admitting Who You Are: Hosts and panelists urge authenticity.
  • “You are a serial monogamist…You like being in relationships, and it’s OK.” – Panelist [29:58]
• Dating Strategies: Hosts discuss whether juggling dates makes someone more attractive or scares off potential partners.
  • “By him knowing that you're still dating other guys…it makes you a hotter commodity.” – Host [30:25]
  • “I don't believe it. It's hard because from a girl's perspective, you feel like they are gonna go somewhere.” – Jen [31:19]
• Listener:
  • “When the guy that I was interested in found out I was dating, two weeks later he asked me to be exclusive.” – Caller [33:54]
  • “Some guys…if they’re trying to get with that girl and they really like her, and she’s dating other people, it kind of turns them off.” – Marcus [34:49]
• Conclusion: There's no right or wrong way, but self-awareness is key: “There’s nothing wrong with anybody doing anything. It’s just admitting it.” – Panelist [36:01]

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6. Is Cheating Ever Good for a Relationship?

[36:54 – 49:55]

• Jeff’s Email: Young man wonders if he should cheat to “know what he wants.”
  • “The advice I’ve been getting from my buddies is that I need…to cheat. They think by cheating, I’ll realize what I want.” – Host reading Jeff’s email [37:39]
• Hosts’ Consensus: You’re not ready for marriage if you want to cheat.
  • “You’re not mature enough to be married yet.” – Host [38:57]
• Panelist Stories: Anecdotes of cheating acting as a catalyst for personal clarity or even strengthening marriage, provided it’s never discovered by the other partner.
  • “He ends up screwing around on his wife for a couple months…credits [it] for making him recommit back to his marriage…his wife never knows about it.” – Host [40:01]
• Listeners Share:
  • “A week before I got married, I did cheat on him. And all it did was make me realize that I did love my husband.” – Kim [41:13]
  • “When you get back in the relationship after you’ve cheated without telling the other person, there’s always going to be that negativity there.” – Laurie [49:29]
  • Some feel curiosity can never be satisfied and may resurface if not addressed.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Parents have a new perspective—they’re looking at the relationship completely objectively. So their opinion kind of matters.” – Co-host [03:33]
• “If Jason’s dad told him [to end it], I think it would be a different story. His dad means everything to him.” – Joanna [02:55]
• “I wish I could have been [someone who only dated one person], but actually, I don’t.” – Host [50:13]
• “Some mistakes are just too big, and they were on a break.” – Host [24:15]
• “There’s nothing wrong with anybody doing anything. It’s just admitting it.” – Panelist [36:01]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:30] Joanna’s first Christmas away from family, parental influence on relationships
• [05:00] Listeners’ stories: Parental disapproval & relationship fallout or perseverance
• [11:40] Pauline’s public apology for infidelity and debate on “break vs. breakup”
• [24:23] Jen’s journey through post-divorce dating and the reality of serial monogamy
• [36:54] Is cheating ever beneficial? Listener confessions and panel debate

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Tone & Style

The episode is frank, light-hearted, and emotionally honest, blending vulnerability with humor. The hosts encourage candid listener participation, provide tough love, and allow for disagreement and self-reflection. The juxtaposition of serious confessions and wry commentary gives space for empathy, support, and real-life messiness.

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Summary

This episode intricately explores how family opinions and parental instincts impact relationships, the realities of dating as a “serial monogamist,” and whether cheating—even just once—can ever help or harm a relationship. With a mix of personal stories (from hosts and listeners), raw emotion, and comedic relief, The Bert Show delivers a relatable, engaging conversation about love, regret, and the complicated path to self-understanding.

Transcript

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[Show Announcer]

The Bird Show.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Joanna went down to Florida and it was the first time that she was away from her family. It was at Christmas time.

[Guest 1 (female, talking about Christmas and family)]

It was my first Christmas away from my parents and I didn't really think it would bother me that much. But once it started getting closer to Christmas, I just started getting really sad, you know, because I'm not with my family and his family so different from my family. So like their traditions are different. Like we celebrate. We actually do a big Christmas Eve thing and not Christmas and they don't, they go to church on Christmas Eve and I don't and things like that. So it was just different and just weird. Not weird, but just uncomfortable maybe.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Why did you guys decide to do it this year? Because usually that doesn't happen until after a couple's married.

[Guest 1 (female, talking about Christmas and family)]

Well, last year, you know, we spent Christmas apart and we didn't want to be apart again. And he really wanted me to be down and, and meet the rest of the family because they have like grandparents and stuff that come over and he really wanted me to meet his grandparents, his aunts, his uncles, cousins and everybody.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Let me ask you a question here because it's one that I had this morning when we were talking about Russell Brand and Katy Perry. Also, let's say you go down to Florida, right, and you're hanging out with Jason's parents and this isn't the first time you've met them. But let's just go ahead and assume for the sake of debate here that it is. And his mom doesn't like you at all, okay. And she says that to Jason, look, this is never going to work out between the two of you guys. You need it. I can tell you right now, do what you want, but it's never going to work out. Would Jason end the relationship right there with you based on what his mom thought? Because that's the question I have for listeners this morning also is have you broken up with a boyfriend or girlfriend just based on, on your parents initial interaction with that person? They didn't like them. So. And you have, they have so much credibility with you that you broke up with that person. 404 7, 4, 1. Q100.

[Guest 1 (female, talking about Christmas and family)]

I guess it depends on how long we'd been dating at that point. If like we just started dating and he, his mom said that maybe, maybe it would influence the progression of the relationship. However, we've been dating for quite a while. And if she did come out and say that, I don't think it would influence him because he's a lot closer to his dad.

[Show Announcer]

Now.

[Guest 1 (female, talking about Christmas and family)]

If his dad told him that, I think it would be a different story.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Now it could be either parent we're talking about here. So let's say it's his dad. Then his dad comes up and says, you know what, really, she just is not gonna work.

[Guest 1 (female, talking about Christmas and family)]

He's very close to his dad. So I think it would just be an issue. You know, his dad's his world. His dad is everything to him. And I do think that it would probably put a big damper on the relationship, really.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

But he doesn't have so much credibility that Jason would immediately break up with you?

[Guest 1 (female, talking about Christmas and family)]

No, I think he would just try. Okay, we'll try again. Let's see. Maybe next time you meet her. But. But if it was like an ongoing thing and like a year later, Dad's still like, I just really don't like her, I think it would probably end the relationship.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Really? Even though things are going great with you and Jason, if dad doesn't, then it's over.

[Guest 1 (female, talking about Christmas and family)]

Yeah. Cause his dad just is everything to him. He means so much to him. He talks about his dad every day. So. Yeah.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

Well, I think your parents have a new perspective because they're not in the relationship. So they're looking at the relationship and at the person in a completely objective way. So their opinion kind of matters.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

And I think when you're younger, you would want to rebel against your parents and be like, I don't care. Love is the only thing that matters anyway, you know? But as you get older and as you mature, you go, okay, mom and dad are looking out for my best interests. And if they were that emphatic about it, you'd have to listen to it.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

Right.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Can you go help Rushmore or whoever's on the phone?

[Guest 1 (female, talking about Christmas and family)]

Sure.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

I was thinking about it this morning because we were talking about Katy Perry and we were talking about Russell Brand, and Russell Brand apparently goes over to Katy Perry's parents house and they're very religious and they did not dig him at all from the start. And they told her that. They even went public with it and said, we don't like the guy, just don't like him. But she, obviously he said something like,

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

there's room for improvement there or something. Like they, they said something like unless he started studying the Bible or something like that. Like unless he stepped up his, you know, spiritual side. They weren't really a big fan.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

I'm looking for the person that broke up with somebody just based on their parents intuition about the person that they were going out with. That's all you needed to hear. And you either broke up or you got broken up with. Because in Katy Perry's case it certainly didn't happen. But I was wondering, I wonder if it does in some cases and this didn't.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Sure it does.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Hey Barry, good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller 1 (male, talks about in-laws)]

How you doing, man?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Okay, how are you?

[Caller 1 (male, talks about in-laws)]

I'm doing well. I'm doing well.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

What's up?

[Caller 1 (male, talks about in-laws)]

Mine is kind of a different situation. You know, my, my in laws, my wife's whole family hated me. Hated me. We got together when we were 14, you know, straight out of high school, while still in high school, couldn't, I mean, just couldn't stand the ground I walked on. So they all told her, get away from this guy, get away from him. You know, he's never gonna work out now. That has been 15 years ago almost. We just celebrated our nine year anniversary on Monday.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

So you've proven them all wrong.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

So you proved them wrong.

[Caller 1 (male, talks about in-laws)]

Oh, it's been great. We have two young daughters and now they love me. They all love me.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yeah. I think in some ways it probably fuels the relationship. Like you guys are coming together over the hatred.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Especially if you're that young. Yeah. If your parents say don't be with this guy when you're young, like he said, they met when they were teenagers, that kind of thing. That's gonna be the first reason that girl sticks with that guy. It's cuz she's rebelling against her parents and trying to be independent and whatever. But I would think most stories don't quite work out like theirs.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

But I have seen relationships where the parents have so much credibility with the kids that you would follow your parents instinct before you even follow your own instinct. Hey Lauren, good morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller 2 (female, talks about parents' opinions on boyfriends)]

Good morning guys. Excuse my voice, I have a cold.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

You got a case of the Carters right there. What's going on?

[Caller 2 (female, talks about parents' opinions on boyfriends)]

Every guy I've ever dated, I've almost based those decisions now I'm in my 30s on what my parents think. Because when I was in my 20s, I used to pick losers and my parents would see him right after that. I brought A guy home once after the fourth date because I was living there at the time. When I got home from the date, my parents were like, he's a jerk. We think he's married. And I gave them no information. And come to find out, when I called him later, they were absolutely right.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Really?

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

Wow.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

So your parents called him out that he was married? He didn't even tell you?

[Caller 2 (female, talks about parents' opinions on boyfriends)]

He didn't even tell me. And the way they figured it out, it's just how fidgety he was acting when he met them. And I think my dad asked him a question, like, why are you coming to pick her up so late? So they just put everything together that quick? And I was just like, no, no, y' all are wrong. And they were absolutely right.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

So every guy that you brought home after that, did they have more credibility with you at that point?

[Caller 2 (female, talks about parents' opinions on boyfriends)]

Yeah, I pretty much listened to my parents. My last boyfriend, I broke up with him. They liked him, but they said, you know what? He doesn't have much potential. He's kind of a scrub. So you may want to reconsider how far you want to go.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

And how long was it after that that you broke up with him?

[Caller 2 (female, talks about parents' opinions on boyfriends)]

That was probably April. We broke up in August.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

So they were right again, though.

[Caller 2 (female, talks about parents' opinions on boyfriends)]

Yep.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Okay. We need to.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

He's kind of a scrub.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

We need to hire out her parents.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

I know.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Hey, Mark. Good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller 3 (male, military college story)]

Hey. Good morning. I just want to say that, first off, I love the show. Sorry.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Thank you.

[Caller 3 (male, military college story)]

But I went to a military college about three or four years ago, and I started dating one of the girls in the resident dorms, and then her parents had got wind of it, and they had met me, and not only did they tell her to break out with me the following semester, she got pulled out and went to, like, Southern Georgia or Georgia Southern, like, miles and miles away and has not talked to me ever since.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

No kidding.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Wow. You were bad news, dude.

[Caller 3 (male, military college story)]

I'm blocked on Facebook. Some of my friends who were friends with her still having contact with her, but they're like, yeah, man, she can't talk to you.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

And it was nothing you said or nothing you did. It's just. The parents hated you that much?

[Caller 3 (male, military college story)]

They just did not like me. I have no idea to this day what it is. I'm very respectful.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

I said, oh, you know.

[Caller 3 (male, military college story)]

Oh, sir, it's nice to meet you and talk to him and. Yeah.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Do you have, like, really big, like, tattoo sleeves or anything obvious like that?

[Caller 3 (male, military college story)]

No. Pearson. My dad was in the army. I'm in the Army Reserves. Like, clean shaven, no long hair. Like, I would think that I'm every dad's opinion. Oh, man, he's a great guy. And no.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

Can we do an I'm just a perm handshake?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yeah, I would love to know that too.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Fascinating, because I want to know what

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

her parents told her.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Mark, do you know the segment that we do called I'm just Curious? Yeah, it's when it. I mean, if you know, if you don't know it, it's when we just get curious as to things that are really none of our business because you're never going to have a relationship with this girl ever again. You really have nothing to lose. Could we pursue trying to get her on just to find out why they hate you so much?

[Caller 3 (male, military college story)]

Definitely.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

How long did you guys date before you met her parents?

[Caller 3 (male, military college story)]

It was a couple of months. I mean, it was well into the semester. We started dating the very beginning of the semester. And then we met. I met her parents, I guess I want to say, right before Thanksgiving. And then by Christmas break, things are getting kind of rocky. And I did not talk to her on Christmas or anytime after that.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Oh. I mean, they said something. They said something so scary to her about you that years later she faked. She blocked your face on Facebook.

[Caller 3 (male, military college story)]

Yes.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

I want to know what they said.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yeah, me too. Mark, let me put you on hold. Don't go anywhere. And we're going to try to research this a little bit because now you got us all curious.

[Caller 3 (male, military college story)]

Okay?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

All right, hold on. I gotta know.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

Fascinating.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

I gotta know.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

I wonder if they've done that. I mean, her parents could do that to every guy that they meet. But it had to be something about him to be that serious.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

One last call. Hey, Alison, good morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

Good morning.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

How are you guys doing?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Okay, thanks.

[Caller 6 (female, talking about shady boyfriend)]

So when I was a freshman in College, I was 18 years old and now 23, I dated this guy. And he was really, really nice. My family ended up loving him. He came to the house and hung out, but there was just some things that were very shady about him. And my parents realized it. Me not realizing it because I was so naive at the time.

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

And he.

[Caller 6 (female, talking about shady boyfriend)]

My parents, actually, my mom refused to let me come home until I broke up with him. And needless to say, I mean, being 18 years old and not being allowed to come back to my house, I did break up with him a couple months later and realized it was for

[Co-host or Panelist 4]

the best of it.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

They were right.

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

Yeah, they were right. Yeah.

[Caller 6 (female, talking about shady boyfriend)]

I wasn't allowed to come home.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Doesn't that suck when they're right also?

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

Yeah, I know, because you don't want to admit it. You always want to be right, especially at 18.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

Yes, exactly.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

And if you're living at their house, it is their rules, man. There's nothing you can do about it. All right, Allison, thank you.

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

Thank you. Have a great day.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yeah, that one dude Marcus got me curious. I'm gonna have Tracy try to follow up with him today and see if we can get some answers for tomorrow.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

He said he's like, clean cut, nice guy. Said yes, sir to her dad.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Like, they're never gonna hook up again. So she would have zero reason not to come on with us and tell us and just fill us in. Yeah, at least he'd have some closure on it, too. But it's really more about our closure.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

I want closure.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

It's not about it.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Caller 7 (male, talks about cheating and breakup)]

Get it.

[Show Announcer]

The Birch show. You're on the Birch show.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Here's Pauline. Hey, Pauline.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

Hi, guys.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

How are you this morning?

[Caller 8 (female, Pauline)]

Okay.

[Caller 2 (female, talks about parents' opinions on boyfriends)]

How are you?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Oh, you screwed up, didn't you?

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

Yeah, I did.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

We will do this from time to time, or at least we have made the offer. I think you're the first that has actually taken us up on it to go ahead and just use our show for whatever. I mean, we don't really like to put parameters on it because it could be anything that you want. If you're out of work, you want to tell Atlanta what you're qualified to do, you could use our show for that. If you wanted to use our show to get advice for a boyfriend's pres, it could be anything.

[Caller 7 (male, talks about cheating and breakup)]

Anything.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Pauline's got something serious, though, because she screwed up a relationship.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

Yeah, I just wanted to use your guys show to publicly apologize to my now ex boyfriend. We were dating for, like, three years, and his name is Justin. So, Justin, if you're out there listening, we were dating for three years, and two months ago, he proposed to me. And, you know, I knew I loved him, and I told him that, but I just. I knew that I just wasn't ready. I was still at this kind of immature phase in my life, and I just. I don't know. It's a scary thing, you know, to commit to someone for life. And. And so I told him no, but that I did love him and I wasn't ready. And he was devastated. And for two weeks, he just didn't talk to me. And he had told me before, you know, we left that night that, you know, he just needed Some time. And so, so, you know, I knew that I had damaged the relationship. I didn't know to what extent but you know, he didn't talk to me for two weeks. So during that two weeks I would, you know, hang out with my girlfriends, try to get my mind off of it. And one night we went to a bar and we were drinking and I ended up hooking up with guy. And you know, it didn't mean anything. It was a one night stand. I never talked to him again. Two weeks later, my Justin, he wants to work it out now he comes back in the picture. And of course that's what I've wanted all along. So I don't tell him about the guy because, you know, it was a one night stand. I just forgotten about it, meant nothing. And you know, we're trying to work it out. A few weeks later, one of my girlfriends that was at the bar with me that one night tells him about the guy, the random guy that I hooked up with. And

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

yeah, she should be on apologizing

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

to you, but I know I haven't talked to her since then either.

[Caller 2 (female, talks about parents' opinions on boyfriends)]

Anyway.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

But so when Justin approached me about it, I got defensive, you know, and at that time I believed, you know, well, for those two weeks we kind of weren't together, he wasn't talking to me at all. I thought I completely ruined everything. I'd been drinking, you know, all this stuff. And at that time I completely believed what I just said. But you know, now it's been a month and a half since we've talked because you know, after that argument he just stopped talking to me, period. And it's been a month and a half and I just realized that I'm completely wrong. I should have told him. I honestly should have just accepted the proposal two months ago to start with. But you know, and so I know that he listens to the show. I've tried calling him, I've tried emailing him, nothing. Even his Facebook has like no updates, you know, in the past like month. So I don't know if he's getting any of my messages on there. But I do know that he listens to your guys show at this time. So I figured this is probably my best shot for him to hear me. So Justin, I just want to you to know that I'm so sorry and

[Caller 2 (female, talks about parents' opinions on boyfriends)]

that I love you so much and that if you were to pull it

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

to me right now, I would completely accept. Like I just realized that you're the only person I want after everything that's happened. You're the only one that I want. And I hope, I pray that you're listening to the show right now. I mean, I guess that's it. I was wrong.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Well, you were on a break.

[Guest 1 (female, talking about Christmas and family)]

It's two weeks.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Well, yeah, I mean, I'm with you guys, but that's not the way he sees it.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

It's not the way he sees it.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Was there an official break? Was there an official, like, I don't want to see you anymore? Was that ever said? Or was it. He was so hurt that he couldn't even talk to you.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

He was so, like, literally, the car we had. Obviously we were. He had done it downtown. And so we were on our way home in the car, and he just was silent the entire way home. Dropped me off at my house, said nothing. I tried to kiss him goodbye.

[Co-host or Panelist 4]

Nothing.

[Caller 2 (female, talks about parents' opinions on boyfriends)]

Like, kind of.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

He let me kiss his cheek, and it was really. It was the coldest I've ever seen him. No words.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

So, I mean, how else could you read that?

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

You know what I mean? I figured I totally screwed up.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

At least in his mind you did. So, yeah, definitely. This time it's just for you to apologize to him. I think you've done that.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Do you think? I don't know. What do you think it would be in this message that he would hear differently than what you have already sent him or already left on his voicemail or that kind of thing? Because he's checked his voicemail. I mean, he's gotten your messages, he's just not responding.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

The one thing is a lot of the. Especially the voicemails that he can hear. I've been very emotional about it because, you know, there's nothing worse than being lonely when, you know, there's someone out

[Co-host or Panelist 4]

there that you love so much.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

You know what I mean? And so I've. They've been a lot of emotional messages or things that, you know, honestly might not make sense anymore, but I just want him to hear me as I am now. I'm calm. I've thought this through so much over and over in my head, you know what I mean? A million times for the past month and a half. And I just want him to know that I'm grounded now and that I. I completely. I can see clearly and I know that he's the one for me. And I want him to know that.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

All right, so his name is Justin, and, you know, he listens at this time. So, Justin, Pauline is apologizing. If you want to call in, great. If not, at least you can talk to her after the show. It may help your cause if people call up to beat you up, which is happening, so. It's awful.

[Caller 8 (female, Pauline)]

Uh.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Oh, hey, Charles. Good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller 9 (male, critical of Pauline)]

Hey, Bert, how's it going?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Okay, man.

[Caller 9 (male, critical of Pauline)]

Yeah, I think she's completely wrong. I mean, you know, even she stated much. You know how emotional it is for him to propose. So, you know, when she broke his heart and then to go behind him and cheat, that's just like a dagger in the back, man. That. That's just wrong.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

They were broken up.

[Caller 9 (male, critical of Pauline)]

You can't say that because he was so devastated. I mean, he needed time, you know, that's. If he didn't say, okay, I never want to talk to you again, then I don't think you're broken up.

[Guest 1 (female, talking about Christmas and family)]

Well, two.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

Two weeks without hearing from somebody is kind of a long time. Especially if you've been together for years.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

All these guys are calling up and saying that she's totally in the wrong. Hey, Mike. Good morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller 9 (male, critical of Pauline)]

Hey, guys. How y' all doing?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Okay. How are you?

[Caller 9 (male, critical of Pauline)]

Good. Listen, I don't have so much as a comment for her as I do Wendy and Jen. I am so disappointed in you guys to defend her. You're on a break, blah, blah, blah. I mean, just cause you're on a break, don't give you carte blanche to go out and do whatever you want to do. If you really care about the person that just freaking proposed to you, you don't go out and do that.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

I mean, not.

[Caller 9 (male, critical of Pauline)]

Not in two weeks. I mean, come on.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Seriously, It's a drunken.

[Caller 9 (male, critical of Pauline)]

Guys, especially Jen, to be the hopeless romantic to say, oh, she was on a break. I mean, that's BS.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

I'm disappointed in you too, Jim. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

I feel like I'm in some alternate universe right now. Wouldn't guys be typically taking my side? And he was talking like a girl just then.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yeah, but it happened to the guy. So this is the fraternity right here.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

It's the role reversal because it's the girl. But if it were a guy that we were talking to who was apologizing to his girl, it would be flip flopped.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Then guys would say, what are you doing? You guys pray?

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

And then girls would. Exactly.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

And then I would be mad at that point. That's what it is. We're just taking up for our own team here, I think, is what it is.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Hey, Ray, good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller 1 (male, talks about in-laws)]

Hey, how y' all doing?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

All right. How are you?

[Caller 9 (male, critical of Pauline)]

I want to make a comment on this Girl, I don't understand how you've been with somebody for three years. It takes you only two weeks to hook up with another dude. That makes no sense to me.

[Caller 7 (male, talks about cheating and breakup)]

I don't.

[Caller 9 (male, critical of Pauline)]

I mean, you tell. You tell everybody you love them, but it only takes you two weeks just because you were drunk.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Well, at least you're getting a good snapshot here, Pauline. Of probably the same thoughts he's having.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

Yeah, I mean, this is kind of helping. It's all the things that eventually entered my mind, you know, after I had time to really sit down and think. But, you know, without thinking, I just did dumb stuff. That's what happens when you just don't think and you're emotional and everything's kind

[Co-host or Panelist 4]

of raw and you.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

You know, I don't know.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

And that last dude probably said the exact same thing. He's thinking, too. You're supposed to love me. And in two weeks, you can just rebound and get as intimate as you can with somebody, another guy. So he's probably feeling like the relationship meant nothing.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Just don't have another rebound in the meantime.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

You haven't had a second one, have you?

[Caller 7 (male, talks about cheating and breakup)]

No.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Okay, I'd hold off on that. I'd hold off on that until he really makes a decision.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Hey, Jennifer. Good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

Hey, why does she feel she deserves

[Co-host or Panelist 4]

a second chance when she's done this on a guy that proposed to her?

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

I mean, if you love him and

[Co-host or Panelist 4]

you should have said yes the first time.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Well, she slept with another guy. She realizes that other guys just aren't as good in bed. Yeah, well, you know, I mean, he deserves way better if she truly loved him.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

It shouldn't take sleeping with a guy

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

for her to realize, oh, I want him now. Pauline, I think these calls are actually going to help you in the long run. Because if Justin is listening right now and he's hearing you get beat up, I think you'll. You'll get more of a sympathetic card than if we were putting people on that were supporting you. So I think it's a good thing.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

And the other thing is, if you could start crying right now, that'd be good.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

Don't do that.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Good morning. One more call.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

She might need to.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

Okay.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Hey, Tom. Go ahead. You're on Q100.

[Caller 7 (male, talks about cheating and breakup)]

Hey, good morning, guys.

[Caller 1 (male, talks about in-laws)]

How are you doing?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Okay. Doing okay.

[Caller 7 (male, talks about cheating and breakup)]

I love, love, love the show. But back to the subject I totally agree with everyone else is saying.

[Caller 3 (male, military college story)]

I was.

[Caller 7 (male, talks about cheating and breakup)]

It happened to me three years ago. I was gone away for three weeks on a trip and found out by email that my Recent girlfriend of 4 years been cheating on me. So it doesn't matter how you apologize or what you do, if you really loved him, you can endure anything and everything throughout the relationship. So I don't see how he can forgive you or if he even considered thinking about forgiving you because it's been almost three years now and I haven't

[Caller 3 (male, military college story)]

talked to her yet.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Oh, dude.

[Caller 7 (male, talks about cheating and breakup)]

Yeah, it's. It's something that hurts. But I agree with him, what he's doing right now. You, you, you gotta move on. He's gonna find something, somebody better, and you're gonna take this lesson, hopefully, and then your next relationship, you're not gonna make the same mistake.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

So we don't know that. You don't. And isn't there like an implied contradiction in what you said? Because you just said if there are two people that are really in love, then that love will overcome everything. Well, if that's the case then, and Justin really loves Pauline here, then won't this relationship overcome this?

[Caller 7 (male, talks about cheating and breakup)]

That's true, but the minute you, the minute you cheat on somebody, there's never been a love involved. If you really love somebody, you would never even consider thinking, even cheating on somebody. So, you know, love will always be there. But at the same time, just thinking back, once you're a cheater, you're always

[Caller 3 (male, military college story)]

going to be a cheater.

[Caller 7 (male, talks about cheating and breakup)]

That trust will never be, be able to be built up again.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yeah, you're still hurt. I can hear you still hurt, man.

[Caller 9 (male, critical of Pauline)]

Yeah, that's true.

[Caller 7 (male, talks about cheating and breakup)]

But at the same time, you got to realize that when you move on, you're gonna find somebody a lot better.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

All right, thank you for calling.

[Caller 1 (male, talks about in-laws)]

All right.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

All right, Pauline, it's out there. I don't know that he'll call us, but if you hear from him, will you give us a follow up?

[Caller 6 (female, talking about shady boyfriend)]

Oh, yeah, definitely.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Okay. Any last words you want to say to him if he is listening right now?

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

Justin, I just want you to know again that I've completely realized my mistakes.

[Caller 6 (female, talking about shady boyfriend)]

And I don't.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

First off, I don't agree at all with once a cheater, always a cheater. Because you also can say that when you make a mistake, you learn from it. And I'm big on that. And Justin, you know that I'm big on that. And I just want you to know that I realize I've made the mistake and I, I haven't. Like, I haven't done anything for a month and a half other than work. I come straight home because I don't want to Hang out with anyone else. I don't want to. And I hope that you realize that I do love you, truly, and that I just wasn't ready. And you know how I can be when it comes to making commitments with anything, even with jobs.

[Caller 8 (female, Pauline)]

You know how I am.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

But once I do it, I'm committed for life. And I just want you to know that. And if you get this, please give me a call.

[Co-host or Panelist 4]

Please give me a call.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Okay. We will let you know if he contacts us, but again, I think he's gonna. He'll email you before he emails us, I hope.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Well, let us know if he does reach back out to you.

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

I will.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

Thank you guys so much.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Good luck. Bye. Bye. I'm with them. I'm so disappointed in y'.

[Co-host or Panelist 4]

All.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Oh, whatever. You would be on the other side if it was the other way around.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Sometimes I can't even look at y'.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

All. If it was a guy calling up to apologize to a girl and they were on a break, you would be so on his side.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

He was just on board in the

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

beginning of the call. You can't hear that in her voice. She sincerely loves him.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Well, then she shouldn't have slept with another guy.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Yes, but she's apologizing for that.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Well, some mistakes are just too big,

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

and they were on a break.

[Show Announcer]

Listen, it's the vert show. This is the bird show.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

We all struggle. Everybody. Everybody has a struggle of who they are and who they want to be in certain different areas. I want to be a guy that can go out and casually drink and not have to get my buzz on and just go home and sleep. I want to be that guy. I really want to be him. I'm not. I go out, I start drinking, and I can't turn it down. I want to be a guy that doesn't have any time for the Jersey Shore or any of the MTV shows. I'm not that guy.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

You get addicted to those.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Addicted. And it's a total and complete waste of my time. Jen Hobby is struggling big time right now with who she is and who she wants to be. Really?

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

I don't know who I want to be, but it's who I've said that I want to be. Does that make sense?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yes.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Anyway, it's a dating struggle, right? Because I've been single for several. Several months now, and dating and enjoying it and really enjoying spending time with different people and that kind of stuff, and I'm continuing to do it. But there's one person that I'm dating that I'm really, really interested in. So, you know, for, you know, in the sprint, there's somebody in the lead. And so what.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

I'm just gonna add a little history.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Okay.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

Okay.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Jen's history is this. Is that she's been married, and the guy that she got married to, she started dating when she was 19 years old.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

And that relationship lasted until she was 31. 31. Only dude she ever been with pretty

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

much from 19 to 31.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

19 to 31. So a lot of formidable years there. They divorce, and she gets back into a relationship with another guy. How many months after the divorce?

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Trying to think, like, well, there was a time where I was dated. I dated one of your friends and had, like, a dating time. And then that one was it last year, like, around, like, December.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Okay. And then there was sort of like this very.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

And then it was like eight or

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

nine months, and it was a serious relationship.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Fell into a serious monogamous relationship.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yes. All right. So she came out. She came out of that, and the idea was she came on and she's like, I am going to date like a man.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

Dating is a verb.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Dating is a verb.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Date like a man. And I'm going to. I think we had suggestions. Look, you don't need to tell guys that you're going out with a whole bunch of them, but that's how that should be your attitude. Just go out with a whole bunch of them. And you were on board on that.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

And I still am.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Sort of.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

Kind of.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

I still am on board on that.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

Come on. Melissa can just check out her peppermint tea.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Melissa, go ahead, please.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Because I think if I. I'm on board on that.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

I just love Jen. Jen is a sister to me. But, honey, come on.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

I'm definitely still on board on that, and I have been.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

But look me in the eye and say that again.

[Show Announcer]

I know.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

Without fidgeting.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Well, what I'm saying is that it's changing because you can't look at me.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

You can't look her in the ey.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

It's changing now because I'm really interested in one person more than the others. And that's kind of what dating is for, right? To, like, find, like, you know, and

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

you don't want to, like, screw that one thing up that's going so well and that you can see potential for.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

But what I'm saying is, in the beginning of these relationships, while it's. It's cool to be excited, you're still allowed to date other guys and be just as excited, which I am.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

But the whole issue is what you want to be and what you are, right? Because as long as you embrace the truth and know who you are, then it's fine. You are a serial monogamist. You are a serial monogamous. And you. And you try dating, but you don't like dating. You like being in a relationship better.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Well, I like being single, too. I like my independence, and I like that kind of thing. But I think once you're. I don't know, I guess, like, once I'm interested in someone, I want to spend more and more time with them because I want to get to know that person better because there's, like, something, you know, really intriguing or there's a spark there or whatever. And then I think, you know, as things progress and become more intimate, then I think I have a harder time with continuing to date other people because it feels like you're. It feels like you're being unfaithful or something. But at the same time, there's been no discussion of, like, being exclusive. Are you dating other people or anything? There's been. Yeah, no exclusive talk has happened. So I shouldn't feel bad about it, but I kind of feel bad about it, but I'm still doing it because I feel like I should. Does that make sense?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yes and no. But if you were dating, like, a dude or dating, like, some of the women that we talk to that have the ability to not emotionally get invested like you do or as excited, then when you started to feel that excitement, you would sort of detach yourself and say, look, I don't want to get really serious right now. Some women will say, I just don't want to be in a relationship right now. I don't want to get serious no matter who comes my way. You're not capable of doing that.

[Guest 1 (female, talking about Christmas and family)]

I.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Okay, I'm not.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

I am a serial monogamist. I will say that out loud. I'm a serial monogamist. I hate dating. I thought dating was boring. I thought it was shallow. I mean, I'm one of those people that. I really didn't enjoy it. Like, I mean, because I. When I met Katie, I was going out with three or four women at once, and I forced myself to make. But Katie was always, as soon as I met her, the one that I enjoyed the most. But I forced myself to go out with these other women because I thought, you know what? This is what I need to do. Ended up with Kati.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Anyway, so for how long did you juggle the four?

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

Only like a month or two, because it's like, I.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

This is more than most can do.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

And Jen's like, saying, that's what I'm saying. But I'm admitting I'm a serial monogamist.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Okay, so you're just saying I need to admit it.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

I think that you are trying so hard to be something you're not.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

You like being in relationships, and it's okay.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

We only fuss at you is because you're giving us an expectation that, you know, like, oh, okay, you know what? Dating is a perb. And I'm gonna go out, I'm. And then all of a sudden, it's like, otp, tb. And it's like, what are you doing? So it's just creating that expectation in

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

this new stage with a guy. I know that you guys are trying to hide the other dudes and you feel somehow that it's not loyal or whatever.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Right.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

It doesn't change the attitude of the guy that you're interested in to know that you're still dabbling with other guys. It doesn't change it. It makes you a hotter commodity.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Are you sure?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

It seems rude.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

It's like, agree because you've given them this idea that you're into them, and then you start dating somebody else. And it feels like from our perspective, it looks like mixed messages.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yeah. And you don't have to, like, put it in his face. If it comes up, you're allowed to say, yeah, I've got plans on Friday night. And it will only drive him crazier for you.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Really? It won't make him offended?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

No, it will force the conversation, probably. If he's at the same place that you really are or you're hoping to get to, it may force the conversation with, like, hey, Jen, so where are we in this whole thing? If you got plans Friday night with another guy, Is that what we're gonna do? And then you take it from there. But he's not going anywhere.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Okay.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

See, but I know you don't believe it.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

I don't believe it. It's hard because from a girl's perspective,

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

you feel like they are gonna go somewhere.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

Like, if you go and date somebody else, you feel like that guy is just gonna drop you, like, in two seconds.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

I mean, if we're talking. If you're into a relationship for a year. Oh, well, yeah. But you're still in this whole.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

All of it is brand new.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yeah. You're allowed to be your own woman and have dates on Friday nights and next Wednesday nights. And it makes you hotter when you're not Available for him. In the beginning of the relationship, I couldn't do it.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

And I know Jen can't do it.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

I know she can't.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Women can't do it. I am doing it. I am doing it. I'm just not super comfor excited about it.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

And the difference.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

I'm excited about all of it because, I mean, I'm not dating anybody that I wouldn't. That I'm not interested in. If I'm not interested, I'll let you know I'm not interested, or you get the brush off or whatever. So I'm not gonna spend time, you know, because I feel like everybody's got busy lives, busy schedules.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

I.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

My friends are very important to me, so I always make time for my girlfriends. So if I'm going to take out the time and date somebody, it's gonna be somebody that I, A, am interested in, think is a good person, and B, am attracted to. So, I mean, all of those things have to be there anyway. So it's not that I don't want to spend time with anybody that I've been seeing, but there's just one that's better than.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

And I don't think one is worse or better than the other because it just is who. You know. Again, the point of the conversation was admit who you are, right? So I think women who can date. That's great. I mean that because I do think there's so many things about dating that can be enjoyable. I just didn't enjoy them, you know?

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

See, I am enjoying it. That's the thing.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

You're enjoying what?

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Dating and dating different people I have totally enjoy. It's not like a burden to me to get dressed up and go out or do dinner or like the new conversations or, you know, or, you know, I feel like I'm a good conversationalist. I feel like I ask a lot of questions and I'm interested in other people, so it's not a burden to me to do that at all. And like I said, people I'm spending time with, I really want to spend time with. I feel like, you know, the guys that I've been dating are the cream of the crop.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

How many guys are you juggling right now? Honestly?

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Four.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yeah. Wow. Here's a little chest bump.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

I know.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

I didn't even know that.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

Now are you dating? Are you going out with them at the same amount? I mean, the same amount.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

There's one person I'm seeing much more than the other.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

He's way in the lead.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

I was gonna.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

He's like, laughing the other dude.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

Because with Katie and the other women, I was going out with them all at the same level.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

The same level.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Okay, here's Aaron. Good morning, Aaron. You're on Q100. Good morning, guys.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

I agree with your comment that it makes you a hotter commodity if you

[Caller 8 (female, Pauline)]

let the guy know.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Really?

[Caller 2 (female, talks about parents' opinions on boyfriends)]

Well, I was dating about four guys

[Caller 8 (female, Pauline)]

up until about a month ago, and I was interested in just one mainly, but I still wanted to see what the other guys did. And when the guy that I was really interested in found that I was dating about two weeks afterwards, he actually came to me and asked me to be exclusive with just him.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

And that's what you wanted at the time?

[Caller 8 (female, Pauline)]

Yeah, that's what I wanted at the time, because I was in a serious relationship for two years, and I just. I was in the whole. I just don't want to just date one guy. I just want to, you know, have my freedom, do whatever, like Jen said, not answer to anybody. And me and him hit it off really well, But I still was like, well, I don't want to get tied down with anybody, but I really do like him, and I like the time that we'd spent together and told him that, you know, I have plans these nights. I'm going out with a couple other guys and whatnot. And then about two weeks later, he finally came to me and was like, look, I don't want to basically have to share you if I don't have to.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Okay, that's good advice.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

But for every call we're getting there, we're getting a guy calling up saying that my advice is bad. Hey, Marcus, Good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller 1 (male, talks about in-laws)]

Hey, what's up, man? I just want to say that not all guys think that way. Like, some guys, you know, when they're in that really were like, they're trying to get with that girl and they really like her, she's dating other people.

[Caller 3 (male, military college story)]

It.

[Caller 1 (male, talks about in-laws)]

Sometimes it turns them off, you know, Like, I'm. I'm a guy that likes to be in a serious relationship, and if I'm dating somebody and they're talking about, hey, I got other guys, it kind of turns me off. And I find somebody that's looking for the same thing that I'm looking for, so.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

But you're not even in that phase yet. What I'm saying is, by him knowing that you're still dating other guys and not making yourself available, that doesn't mean that you're saying, I'm not open to a relationship with you. It's just you saying I'm still doing other things. You're not at the epicenter of my dating world.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

Have you turned him down for something and already had plans or are the other guys there to fill in the gaps when he's not available?

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

It hasn't been that long yet to figure it out.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

Okay.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

I don't think it's.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

You guys are still in the very beginning stages of this whole thing. Yeah, Yeah. I think there's nothing wrong with you juggling four dudes the same way. There's nothing wrong with anybody.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

There's nothing wrong with anybody doing anything. It's just admitting it. Admitting it. I can't admit it, Melissa.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Well, I think what it is is I can't admit I know that I know that I am a relationship girl. I know that I am. And so I've been trying to sort of like break that pattern, you know? Cause you don't want to be somebody that goes from one to the next to the next to the next to the next. You know what mean?

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

I.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

You want to like take that time in between and all that kind of stuff. But I'm not very good at it.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

What's the longest time you've taken in between your monogamous relationships? And I'm not judging because I'm that girl.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

No, I know. It's been like a good. It's been a solid 72 hours.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

It's only happened twice in my life. So. Since your divorce, like four months probably four months.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Okay, four months. And what does that say? The four months part?

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

She's a serial monogamist.

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[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Okay. I know your knee jerk reaction here is gonna be to call up and say never, never, never, never cheat. Never, never, never, never. That's too easy. I'm curious if there is anybody listening right now. And we can use the voice disguiser for this. 404-741-Q100 and I'll even say going into this that. But I'm sure 98% of the calls would be never, never, never, never cheat. But that. I mean if we take 10 calls saying that. Not real entertaining. But there's gotta be some people out there that think that there are some times where cheating on your significant other is actually healthy for the relationship. Cuz this is the advice that this. Dude, where'd my voice go? Melissa, what'd you do?

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

Rubbing off.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Picked a bad time to lose my voice with 10 minutes left. Let's talk about Jeff. Here's how the email reads I'm a 23 year old man and I've been in a relationship with my high school sweetheart for six years. Our relationship has had its ups and downs as any relationship would, but we're still very, very much in love. Over the years, I've had open opportunities to cheat, but I've always remained faithful. I realized that this is the woman I want to spend the rest of my life with. But there's a part of me that's very indecis. It's reached a point now where she's ready to get married and have kids and I feel like I'm still real young. We've got all the time in the world and why not just enjoy each other for now? The advice I've been getting from my buddies is that I need capital letters to cheat. They think that by cheating it'll help me realize that what I want, whether it be single life or married life, anytime my girlfriend and I ever try to take a break from each other, I always wind up doing whatever possible to get her back. I know if we break up, that's exactly what I'll do. Again is in this situation, should I cheat? If not, what should I do? I think if we take a hundred calls, a hundred people are gonna tell you you're not ready to get married, right?

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

Well, he's obviously not ready yet.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

You're not ready, you know, you're not ready.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

Well, that's what he said.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

He's not ready, you're not ready.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

But he doesn't want to lose her.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

But he doesn't want to lose her. So you can't, you can't cheat to stay within the relationship. You can't have it all the ways here. You're not mature enough to be married yet.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Yeah, they've got to just take a break. I mean, he's just got to be honest with her that they've got to, they've got to take a break from

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

each other or he's always going to wonder one way or the other. Although he says every time they break up he always goes back to her. So he just has to commit one way or the other. Yeah, but cheating on her isn't going to help the situation. Right?

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

Yeah, I mean, I'm one of the, I would be one of those people that would call and say never. I mean, because it's not, it never helps. I mean, you think it might, but I think the repercussions are stranger than you expected. You know what I mean?

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

I think if you had given us a different scenario and she had cheated on him, and he was thinking about balancing it out. I do have a friend who had her boyfriend cheated on her, and she never really. She stayed with him and never really ever got over it and always thought, well, maybe I should. You know, she was like, maybe I should have done it back to him, revenge cheating and would have, like, balanced it out or something.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

I have a friend that's been married for roughly the same amount of time that I've been married. And their marriage went through a real rough spell a couple of years ago. And he ends up screwing around on his wife for a couple of months. He never tells her about it. And the relationship, the marriage ended up fine. And he credits him checking out and having this side relationship for making him realize what he wanted and committing, recommitting back to his marriage. His wife never knows about it.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Wow.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

And he said it was actually good for their marriage.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Wow.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yeah. So that's why I'm asking the question this morning. Is there anybody listening?

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

It's only good because she didn't find out.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

But she didn't find out. And he said the relationship is stronger now. It made him recommit. So the infidelity actually worked for him in this case.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

And he should never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never tell her.

[Caller 9 (male, critical of Pauline)]

I'm telling her that now.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

No, you better hope, like, that mistress doesn't tell either, ever, ever, ever.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

And she hasn't up to this point. So that's really the question is, and we're only going to take these calls and is, is it ever okay? Does it actually help in some cases to screw around? And these could be dangerous here. Hey, Kim. Good morning.

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

Hi.

[Caller 3 (male, military college story)]

Hi.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

You're on the voice disguiser.

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

Okay. I've been married now for almost 26 years, but a week before I got married to my husband, I did cheat on him. And all it did was he was working out of town. And I went out with a guy that I had liked for a long time, but all it did was make me realize that I did love my husband. And I had waited probably about three or four years after we were married. I told him all about it, and he handled it fine.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

And it ended up making the relationship better.

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

Yeah, for me, it did.

[Caller 9 (male, critical of Pauline)]

Wow.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

And it was while y' all were still together. You weren't on a break?

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

It was. No, we were. It was a week before we got married, and he was traveling at the time. And I was 17 and scared to death and didn't know if I really loved him or not. But it Made me realize I did.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

Now, do you. Let me just throw this out there.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

He.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

Do you think he was okay with it? Because he may have done the same thing. And would you be mad if he did?

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

You know, I really don't think I would have. Not after all this time that we've been married. Because, like I said, it was right before we got married and we were both so young. I don't think it would really make me mad.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yeah, I'm with Melissa. Like, if you tell your partner that you are cheating and their reaction is, oh, it's okay, it's cool. You have to sort of wonder. I wonder if they're saying that just because they're rationalizing that they cheated, cheated, too, and now they feel like it's an even playing field.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

Yeah, it's fine. It's off my head, you know?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

404,741. Q100. If cheating is okay. Hey, Courtney. Go ahead. You're on Q100.

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

Hi, how are you?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Good. How are you?

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

I'm doing very well. Thanks for asking.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

What's up?

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

I will tell you. My husband and I have been married for 10 years, and before we got married, there was a time period where he would, like, love to just go out and, you know, have fun on the weekends and get some strange or whatever you would call it. And he would break up with me. We ended up breaking up about four or five times. And the last time he did it, I was just done. I had just checked out, and I was finished. So I went and found his arch nemesis, I guess you would call it, and had a little too much to drink, like everybody does, and we ended up hooking up. Well, after that, about two weeks later, he did the normal thing of calling me and asking me if I wanted to get back together and blah, blah, blah. Of course I said yes, like I always did, and I ended up telling him about it. And that actually made him propose to me because he realized that that last time was it for me. So I actually do think it helped.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

That's like the ultimate gamble right there. Like, if you put all your chips in, you go and you sleep with his arch nemesis, you tell him about it, and it shocks him into it.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Yeah, she was over it anyway.

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

Guilty about it. So I didn't have, you know, I had to tell him. There was, like, really no choice. So when you're gonna find out they

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

were on a break, too, so it's not necessarily cheating. You weren't in the relationship. So break up and then do what you Gotta do and then realize what you have.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

So technically not cheating.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Technically not.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Here is Sarah. Good morning. You are on Q100. Hi.

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

Hi. Hey.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

Hey.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

You're on the voice disguiser.

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

Okay. Yeah. Basically, this is my exact situation right now. I have been with my boyfriend for about six years and we are engaged. And I kind of. I'm only 25, so I kind of feel like I needed to kind of get out there and play the field a little bit more before I made that huge of a commitment to get married. And I just. There was this guy that I had known for a while, and just a couple weeks ago, I cheated on my boyfriend with him because I just needed to know. And actually it's completely made me know that I need to be with my boyfriend.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Have you told your boyfriend what happened?

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

No, and I'm not going to.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

You're not going to plan on telling him? You wouldn't give her that advice. You would say tell him.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

I would say she needs some more time to herself before she gets married.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yeah. That's why I'm a big old fan. And no one gets married till 28. You know, these couples that start dating in high school year. I know the romantic notion that we met in elementary school and then we dated all through high school sounds so sweet. It's the dream. And then college, we were with each other and he's the only guy I've ever been with, or she's the only woman I've ever been with. But you can't help but wonder. I think it would be human nature to wonder, what else is it?

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Like, some people can make it work. Some people have zero desire to explore or they have zero curiosity. I went to college, One of my sorority sisters was like this. Like, she had zero rebel bone in her body. Like, just didn't have that desire whatsoever at all. And she was with her high school boyfriend. They dated all through college. They're married now. They live in Florida. They've got two kids. Like, everything is hunky dory. But she's just never had that curiosity. You know, Some people are just built differently. But if you've got the. Like the last caller. Like, if she's got the curiosity now to seek it out just before, you know, she's in get. You know, she gets married or whatever. Like, that's in her. Right? Like that. I don't know.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

I just think she's just curiosity. She went through with it.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Right, Right.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

You know?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Right.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

And that curiosity is gonna peek its head again, you know?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Hey, Ashley. Good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

Hi.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Hey. You're on the Voice Disguiser.

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

Yeah, I'm actually. I started it back in September. I reconnected with an old boyfriend and have kind of been having a kinda. Yeah, kinda. Well, we have slept together. Since reconnecting, I've been married to my husband be three years in May and in August, actually, I filed for divorce from my husband because things were just. I mean, I just. Every time I looked at him, I want to hit him in the face of the frying pan.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Okay, That's a good indication.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

That got to a pretty bad point. Okay. Very Southern.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

That's right.

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

And so I, you know, I reconnected with this old boyfriend, and honestly, ever since I reconnected with. With him, my relationship with my husband has been so much better.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Really? So you stayed with your husband because of your affair?

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

Well, at first, I stayed because I was guilty. I felt really guilty that I, you know, had done something like this.

[Co-host or Panelist 4]

And then

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

you got over.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

Are you still with the guy? You're, you know, the mission or whatever you call a guy on the side.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Mastros.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

Are you still with him?

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

In a way, yeah, kind of.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

Sort of. If you're sleeping with him, you're with him.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

I know there's a lot of great. Either yes or no, are you still sleeping?

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

This might be the first time she said it out loud.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yeah. Are you sleeping with the guy still?

[Caller 2 (female, talks about parents' opinions on boyfriends)]

No.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

So no.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

Come on.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

It's not just a no.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

So you guys are communicating with each other, but there's nothing physical.

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

There's several ways to be intimate with each other. Are you being intimate with him in any way?

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

No.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

No. Okay. All right. But it helped for a while.

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

It did. Yeah. And I don't know if it was the guilt factor that I could do that or.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Why are you shaking your head like that?

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

Because this one doesn't qualify. She's sleeping around on her husband with this guy, and she's staying with her

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

husband, but I didn't follow that story at all. She filed for divorce, and then she got with the high school guy.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Right?

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Back with the husband because of the

[Caller 2 (female, talks about parents' opinions on boyfriends)]

relationship with the high school guy?

[Co-host or Panelist 3]

Yes. She's doing both.

[Caller 4 (female, various callers named K)]

Confused.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

I'm gonna take one more call, then we'll move on. We got to talk about Jeff. Hey, Laurie. Good morning. You're on Q100.

[Co-host or Panelist 4]

Good morning. How are you?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Okay. How are you?

[Caller 2 (female, talks about parents' opinions on boyfriends)]

I'm doing really well.

[Co-host or Panelist 4]

I'm kind of torn with this because I grew up in a very, very religious home. My dad was a minister. You don't have sex so you get married, all that stuff. And I waited.

[Caller 2 (female, talks about parents' opinions on boyfriends)]

I.

[Co-host or Panelist 4]

But it was back where. I'm 44, so it's back where everybody got married at 20 and 19, things like that. And I did, and I married my first, my one of my only. And I wasn't his first, but he ended up cheating. He's using excuse of only being 19. But I always had that curiosity in

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

my head, you know, what would it

[Co-host or Panelist 4]

be like with somebody else?

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

I think that's human nature.

[Co-host or Panelist 4]

Yeah, it is human nature. And once we finally did get divorced, because I just. I couldn't get over it. I only found out about. Because they were both my best friends, but I kind of went wild for a year. And I think that, you know, it's not so much cheating, but I think if you get back in the relationship after you've cheated without telling the other person, there's always going to be that negativity there that I don't know that you can have a full 100% relationship with somebody based on a lie.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

So no matter what, if you cheat, you got to come clean. Would be your advice.

[Co-host or Panelist 4]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Okay. Thank you for calling. I would have always had that curiosity also. I could have never been one that just dated one woman my entire life. There's just no way. I wish I could have been, but actually, I don't.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

You don't wish you could have been? No. Got it.

[Caller 5 (female, Pauline, apologizing to Justin)]

Okay.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

I understand what you're saying.

[Host (possibly Bert or Barry)]

Yeah. Because it sounds like it's like the dream to be with just one. But that wouldn't have been my dream.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Like the purity.

[Co-host or Panelist 4]

Yeah.

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