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Purchased the Birch show you love him. You just don't trust them to be around your kids without you around. Okay, we can use the Voice Disguiser for this 1855-Virtual Totally honest, right? Nobody's going to know it's you, but are you a mom that you know what? You love your husband but bless him, you do not trust him around the kids alone. So it was Kylie Kelsey here that is bringing this up because she has herself a brand new podcast and she is the wife of Jason Kelsey who is the brother of Travis Kelsey who.
Podcast Co-host 1
Is dating Taylor Swift.
Podcast Host
Okay, so it's getting complicated here, and everybody's getting in on the podcast now, man. So now Kylie has done one, and it's really good. I mean, she's very, very honest. And when you're this honest, it's going to come with controversy. And she did that, that's for sure, just a couple of days ago when she was talking about herself and talking about her husband and their arrangement when it comes to the kids and her always scheduling child care if he's around or not.
Kylie Kelsey
It's well known that you watch the kids while Jason podcasts. Will Jason be watching the girls while you do this show? How do I say this nicely? No. When I have to do something, coaching, something for Eagle's Autism foundation podcast, a doctor's appointment even, I will schedule childcare. My husband could tell me 72 times that he is going to be in the house during the times when I have to leave it. I will still schedule childcare. And it is not a knock on my husband. My husband is busier than he has ever been. He is working so hard and really grinding right now. And so I just make sure that I'm covered. And if that means that he's at the house and someone else is there, then that's what we have going on. He will not be watching the kids.
Podcast Co-host 2
He's not watching them right now.
Kylie Kelsey
I think he's in meetings.
Podcast Host
Okay. So I'm only gonna stick up for him in this one area that he is working from home.
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Podcast Host
So if he is working in the house. I used to struggle with this with my kids. Also, is that it's very difficult on a family because in most families, dad or mom go to work or whatever, and they're not in the house. So when you have young kids and dad is in the house but he's working, it's very difficult to try to explain that to him. Like, this is no different than me going to an office, except I'm so. I don't know if that's what she's talking about or not, but to me, that's the only defense.
Podcast Co-host 1
And it's very like. So it's funny because you see the headlines and you read the story, and it actually presents very differently when you listen to the actual clip and you get the context of it. Because when I first saw the headline, I'm like, we are rewarding this man's incompetency. And it's. It's not just his fault. It's both of their faults. Mostly his fault. If she feels like she can't leave the kids alone in his presence without having childcare. Like, you got to hold your person, you're the other parent accountable for knowing how to take care of the kids when you're not there. But listening to her talk, it sounds like, okay, it's not that she's running an errand and leaving him home alone, you know, home with the kids to watch the kids. It's actually like, no, he's working, too. And so I. I took it a little differently hearing it than just reading the headline. But had it. Had the way I took it before. If you are unable to leave your children alone with your spouse without childcare, you both have created this situation, and you both have to be held accountable. Because I wanted to play this in conjunction with the clip because it's the. The timing is impeccable, and I think it's so important for especially moms to hear this peaceful mama bear said that we have to step back and stop being controlling so dads can do things on their own.
Guest Speaker/Mom Advice
He bathed a baby on his night off. And I corrected something that he was doing. I can't remember what it was, whether it was the way he was holding it or something. And the next day, when Matt was back at work, Mum said to me, bridie, do not become the expert in that baby. I said, what do you mean? And she's a midwife, nurse, and mother of four, so she knows what she's talking about. She said, you become the expert in that baby, you'll be the expert in the toddler. And then when it's school time, you' expert in the kid, you'll be the one they call everyone for the school, call you for everything. Your husband will turn to you for everything. You will end up running this household and making every single decision. And it starts now. And she says, he's doing a great job. And when you correct him, all you're doing is undermining his confidence. And so if you don't want to be the expert in the baby, you have to let him do it his way. And for the rest of your parenting life, you are going to see him do things that you think are the most insane things that you've ever seen in your life. He's going to bathe that baby in a way that makes absolutely no sense to you. Not your problem. Don't he. Don't correct it. You have to let him do it because. And I think that's very sympathetic as well to the men and also goes back to there being nothing inherently biological in me or in Matt about the baby. It's all about practice.
Podcast Host
Y' all are liars. There's nobody calling saying that they totally and completely don't trust your husbands with the kids. 1-855-Virtual.
Podcast Co-host 2
You know, the more I hear from Kylie Kelsey, the more I like her because all I hear is a spouse that is completely supportive of her other working spouse and puts measures in place to make he is successful and that the children are successful. There's nothing wrong. What I imagine happens is he'll be at home and then there's some emergency meeting that he has to attend and only can everyone can meet right now. And he scramped. Like I'm guessing something like that happened over and over again. And I know this because this happens in my life where my afternoon's free. Then all of a sudden. Oh, God. All hands on deck. Meeting got to happen now. Hey, Chad, can you take the kids? So I think it's lovely, this mama bear chick. I have an issue with her. Okay, okay. If you want to be. I understand what she's saying. Not correcting people. Like if they just bait the kid differently from you if there's no wrong answer. But if you're doing something that is actually wrong, I'm going to correct you. And it is your job to be an expert, just like me.
Podcast Host
Give an example.
Podcast Co-host 2
Well, you have access to the same book. So let's say like the husband is or the wife, like whoever your spouse is heating the formula wrong to feed the baby. Right. Oh, you gotta let him figure it out by himself. Nah, he has access to the same materials and the same books. I'm gonna step in and correct it and I'm gonna do that over and over again. And if he continue to be incompetent, I'm going to step up and say, here are the books, you need to read them. Because again, I'm not better than you. I just did the work. And it's time for you to do the work too. But I'm not going to let the kids suffer because of that.
Podcast Co-host 1
But how often? So parenting is. So there are. There's a lot of subjectiveness to it. One person's way may not be another person's way. Sleep training, not sleep training. Etc. So do you think we can get caught up in my way is the right way and maybe there is another way to do it that is okay?
Podcast Co-host 2
Oh, yeah, absolutely. I think you know your partner best. Like I'm lucky I have one who does put it the work. And a lot of my friends, their partners do as well. So I don't know what it's like to have a, a partner who's not pulling their weight. But for sure, there are ways where it's in your head. You're like, this is the only way. And that's not accurate.
Podcast Co-host 1
And I think that's what she's referring to.
Podcast Co-host 2
It just sounded like pandering to a spouse who wasn't willing to step up to the plate. Like, oh, you gotta let him make mistakes. Who's letting you make mistakes?
Podcast Co-host 1
That is so funny because I took it the complete opposite way.
Podcast Host
Hold on a second, you guys. May's on hold and she's trying to get on. Hey, May.
Guest Speaker/Mom Advice
Good morning.
Podcast Host
You're on the Birch show.
Caller/Listener
Good morning. How is everybody doing?
Podcast Host
Good morning. Okay. The initial question was, who is listening that just absolutely does not trust their husband with the kids?
Caller/Listener
I absolutely do not trust my husband. Let's just face it, they're like another kid for you to begin with. You have to tell them exactly what to do, how to do it, because most of the time they just are coolest. And yes, we are coolest too. As, as a first time mom, I think I was definitely clueless in many ways. But our intuition is never wrong, I think. And man just, I mean, hey, him, I'll speak for my husband, he was just clueless, period. And I, you know, everything from getting him ready to go to the daycare or to go to, you know, out and about and he would get the milk or he would get three or four things in his backpack, and I'm just like, I don't trust you to take care of our kid. Like, you can't, you know, just go have your head straight or. I don't know. I do trust them in other ways. I just trust them when I'm around.
Podcast Host
If the mother of my kids came to me and said that I would do so much self evaluation, I, I, yes, I'd be offended initially. But then you have to do a search on yourself and go, okay, why is it? What have I done to create that situation?
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Unless she's completely controlling, there's that possibility as well.
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Date: December 12, 2024
Podcast: The Bert Show
Host: Pionaire Podcasting
Episode Theme:
A candid and often humorous dive into modern parenting dynamics, centered around Kylie Kelce’s recent confession about her husband, NFL player Jason Kelce, and their childcare arrangements. The episode explores trust, gender roles, parental accountability, and the impact of societal expectations on family life.
In this episode, the Bert Show team discusses viral headlines from Kylie Kelce’s new podcast appearance, where she openly reveals that she does not trust her husband, Jason Kelce, to watch their kids alone—even if he’s at home. The conversation evolves into a broader dialogue on parenting roles, expectations of fathers versus mothers, who shoulders responsibility at home, and how society interprets such admissions. Listeners and the team share personal stories, insights, and challenge the cultural narratives around parental competence and control.
Intro to the Topic:
Kylie Kelce, wife of NFL star Jason Kelce, recently launched her own podcast and made headlines by admitting that she always arranges childcare—even if Jason is home—when she needs to be elsewhere.
Kylie’s Honest Explanation (Quoted):
“When I have to do something… I will schedule childcare. My husband could tell me 72 times that he is going to be in the house… I will still schedule childcare. It is not a knock on my husband… he is busier than he has ever been… and so I just make sure that I'm covered.”
— Kylie Kelce (02:52)
Hosts' Immediate Reactions:
The team contextualizes Kylie’s choice, acknowledging Jason’s demanding schedule. They debate if being physically present but working at home equates to being unavailable for childcare.
Parenting Roles Challenged:
The crew dissects the headline—asking: Is this about competence, fairness, or gender roles? One host voices concern:
“If you are unable to leave your children alone with your spouse without childcare, you both have created this situation, and you both have to be held accountable.”
— [Host] (04:57)
They note the difference between how headlines can spark outrage (“rewarding this man’s incompetency”) but how the reality is usually more nuanced.
Sympathy for Both Sides:
The podcasters stress the importance of context (Jason is home but working) and that the arrangement might be a practical, not personal, decision.
Guest Clip: “Peaceful Mama Bear” Story (Quoted):
“…do not become the expert in that baby… You will end up running this household and making every single decision.”
“…when you correct him, all you're doing is undermining his confidence.”
— Peaceful Mama Bear, via a listener clip (05:41)
The story argues that mothers need to let fathers learn and make mistakes, or risk becoming the sole parent “expert” and default decision-maker for everything, from babyhood through school years.
Insight:
Parental competence is built—there’s "nothing inherently biological" that makes moms—or dads—better at parenting; it's about practical learning and sharing the mental load.
Admiration for Kylie Kelce:
“…all I hear is a spouse that is completely supportive of her other working spouse and puts measures in place to make sure he is successful and that the children are successful.”
— [Host] (06:54)
Pushback Against ‘Not Correcting’ Model:
One host disagrees about “letting dads make mistakes”—if a mistake is genuinely wrong (e.g., incorrectly preparing formula), it should be corrected to benefit the child.
“I'm not better than you. I just did the work. And it's time for you to do the work too. But I'm not going to let the kids suffer because of that.”
— [Host] (07:45)
Discussion: Subjectivity in Parenting:
The team debates whether one parent’s way is automatically the “right” one or if there’s room for multiple valid approaches.
Real-Life Example:
“I absolutely do not trust my husband. Let's just face it, they're like another kid for you to begin with. You have to tell them exactly what to do, how to do it, because most of the time they just are clueless...”
— May, caller (09:17)
May shares her experience: her husband is loving but clueless with details, leading her to feel she must manage everything regarding their child. However, she admits she trusts him when she’s around, highlighting a frequent sentiment among mothers.
Reflection by Bert Show Host:
“If the mother of my kids came to me and said that I would do so much self evaluation… you have to do a search on yourself and go, okay, why is it? What have I done to create that situation?”
— [Host] (10:11)
The team discusses how this truth can prompt men (or any partner) toward self-reflection, though they also acknowledge that sometimes it’s about the other partner’s control tendencies.
The Bert Show crew maintains a candid, humorous, and occasionally provocative tone as they tackle real family issues. The discussion reflects the complexity of modern parenting, where logistics, trust, and societal norms intersect. Ultimately, the episode champions open dialogue between partners, stresses the importance of flexibility, and offers reassurance that perfection isn’t a requirement for good parenting.