Vault: 2nd Date Update - Abe & Amanda

Summary

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The Bert Show – Vault: 2nd Date Update – Abe & Amanda

Release Date: October 31, 2025
Format: Morning radio panel (Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, et al.)
Episode Theme:
Revisiting a classic “2nd Date Update” with Abe and Amanda – diving into the complexities and awkwardness of dating (and breakups) within a shared workplace, featuring candid revelations, drama, and classic Bert Show humor.

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Episode Overview

In this “Vault” episode, The Bert Show crew brings back a memorable Second Date Update call featuring two coworkers, Amanda and Abe. Amanda wants to know why Abe ghosted her after a great first date. The call unravels layers of office politics, jealousy, and rumors as Abe explains what really happened—and why he’d rather pursue someone Amanda once managed (and fired!). The group navigates the minefield with plenty of direct questions, banter, and cringey office gossip—all in their trademark lively, humorous style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Scene: Amanda & Abe’s Great Date

• Amanda’s confusion: She recounts to the hosts (01:45-02:36) that she and Abe, coworkers from different offices, spent a fabulous six-hour date involving dinner, drinks, and a little romance (“little kissy, kissy, little make out, make out” – [02:18], Host C).
• Abe’s change of heart: Although Abe told Amanda at the end of the night, “We’ll have to do this again sometime” ([02:31], Host C), he didn’t return her follow-up calls.

2. The Confrontation: Abe Joins the Call

• Abe’s initial recap: Abe admits to the good time, emphasizing they really connected and had fun ([03:35], Abe).
• Cut-to-the-chase moment: The panel urges Abe to “start at the word but” ([03:55], Host D); Abe reveals he had another date the following night—with someone else from the office: Carolyn ([04:10-04:23], Abe).

3. Workplace Web: Amanda, Carolyn, and the Fallout

• Carolyn’s connection: Carolyn, the “other” woman, used to work under Amanda but was let go, allegedly because of Amanda ([05:13-05:22], Abe).
• Abe’s preference: Abe confesses, “I just had a better time going out with Carolyn the next night than I did going out with Amanda the night before” ([05:28], Abe).

4. Rumors, Accusations, and Office Drama

• The “Psycho” label: Abe says, “Amanda got kind of psycho about things…hounding people at work, reading other people’s emails…” ([05:52-06:02], Abe). He claims this information came from someone close to the situation, heavily implying it’s Carolyn ([06:24], Abe).
• Amanda’s rebuttal: Amanda denies any wrongdoing, explaining that Carolyn was fired for “taking things out of other people’s desks.” ([06:41-07:00], Amanda). She counters Abe’s “psycho” accusation by explaining her role as a manager handling theft in the workplace.

5. Who to Believe?

• The hosts’ reactions: The team tries to suss out fact from fiction, with moments of levity and skepticism (“That’s why you don’t dip your pen in the company ink” – [07:14], Host C).
• Amanda’s final word: She warns Abe about trusting Carolyn, “If you're comfortable with going out with a girl and trusting a girl who steals things out of other people’s desks…just wait for her to steal something from you” ([08:11], Amanda).
• Layered accusations: Amanda accuses Carolyn of more questionable behavior: “going with a girl who sleeps with two different guys from our company in the same night” ([08:35], Amanda), which Abe denies knowing.

6. Resolution & Fallout

• Abe and Amanda depart: Both wish each other (awkwardly) well and hang up.
• Amanda reflects: “I guess he’s the kind of guy. I’m just gonna let him go.” ([09:33], Amanda).
• Workplace awkwardness: Amanda shares she’ll have to interact with Abe “like twice a month at least,” dreading the inevitable run-ins ([09:42], Amanda).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Just start your story at the word but.” — (Host D, [03:55])
  Cutting to the heart of the matter in typical Bert Show style.

• “The thing about Carolyn is that Carolyn used to work for Amanda. Okay?” — (Abe, [05:14])
  The office connection is revealed.

• “Amanda got kind of psycho about things, if you really want to know the truth.” — (Abe, [05:52])
  The “psycho” accusation that fuels the main drama.

• “If he's talking about pounding someone at work because they're taking things out of other people's desks...I had to let Carolyn go.” — (Amanda, [06:41])
  Amanda gives her side of why Carolyn was fired.

• “That’s why you don’t dip your pen in the company ink.” — (Host C, [07:14])
  Summary of the lesson for all, with classic Bert Show wit.

• “If you want to make this choice, that's up to you. But I'm going to tell you...just wait for her to steal something from you.” — (Amanda, [08:11])
  Amanda’s pointed warning to Abe.

• “Well, have fun at the Christmas party this year, okay?” — (Amanda, [08:43])
  A perfectly delivered stinger about the awkward times ahead.

• “Oh gosh, I'm dreading that. I guess it'll be—we see each other like twice a month at least.” — (Amanda, [09:42])
  The inevitable return to real-office awkwardness.

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Key Timestamps

• 01:45-02:36 — Amanda recounts the first date and confusion over being ghosted
• 02:47-03:16 — Abe joins the call, initial pleasantries
• 04:02-04:23 — Abe discloses his date with Carolyn
• 05:13-05:28 — Abe explains Carolyn’s office history and why he prefers her
• 05:52-06:02 — Abe makes the "psycho" accusation
• 06:41-07:00 — Amanda responds, explaining Carolyn’s firing for theft
• 08:11-08:35 — Amanda warns Abe, warns of trust issues, and hints at further Carolyn drama
• 09:33-09:49 — Amanda resigns herself to moving on and anticipates future workplace awkwardness

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Tone and Style

• Original Language & Tone: Fast-paced, lively, and irreverent, with panelists jumping in with quick takes and banter.
• Colorful and candid: No one shies away from direct questions or tough truths; each speaker brings humor and honesty.
• Engaging, reality-confessional style: The hosts and callers air out the messiness of workplace romance with a mix of empathy and comedic detachment.

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Conclusion

This Second Date Update delivers classic Bert Show content—real-life drama, workplace intrigue, conflicting perspectives, and sharp comedic timing. By the end, listeners are equally entertained and relieved they’re not caught in this kind of office dating debacle themselves. Amanda gets some closure, Abe gets roasted, and both (maybe) learn a lesson about mixing work and romance.

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Transcript

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[C]

This is the Bird Show. If you've never heard Second Date update, here's how the whole thing works. Girl generally goes out with guy. They have a great first date. She just can't figure out why dude's not calling for the second date. All right, Amanda went out on a date last week with. What was dude's name again?

[B]

Abe.

[C]

Amanda hangs out with Abe. They work together, but in different offices. They had a Great time. He took her out for some Chinese food. They go down to the Highlands. They have some drinks there. They spend six hours with each other. Little kissy, kissy, little make out, make out a little.

[D]

Maybe not as rhythmic.

[C]

And he tells her at the end of the date, it was, we'll have.

[A]

To do this again sometime.

[C]

We'll have to do this again sometime. Now you call him a couple of times during the week, no call back.

[E]

Right.

[C]

So you're wondering why there's been no second date. And we're about to call Abe and.

[D]

Find out exactly why he was actually listening this morning.

[C]

Oh, yeah, let's get old, Abe. Hey, Abe.

[F]

Good morning, guys. How's it going?

[C]

Good. How are you this morning?

[F]

Oh, not too bad.

[D]

All right, I hope you're ready to be honest.

[A]

Abe.

[F]

Cannot tell a lie, you know.

[E]

Sorry, Abe.

[C]

All right, Abe. So you heard the whole thing go down. Amanda thinks you just had this great date. She's on the phone with us right now. You want to say hey, Amanda?

[E]

Hi, Abe.

[F]

Hey, Amanda.

[C]

How you doing?

[E]

Well, good. Nice to hear from you right now.

[F]

Oh, good to talk.

[C]

Yeah, I'm sensing that. So she thought that you guys had this great date, you know, and she just can't wait to go out on the second one with you. It's just date, not marriage. And she's just kind of wondering why there's been no second date.

[F]

Well, I mean, you know, I was listening to the whole thing. That's why I figured I'd give a call in, you know, just to talk to you guys about it. I mean, sure, we had a great time and everything. We went out, had some Chinese food and stuff. We had a really good time. We spent about, well, I would say about five or six hours together, you.

[C]

Know, that's what she said. She said it was great. Six hours.

[F]

Yeah, it was really good. It was a lot of fun.

[D]

You know what, Abe? We've heard all this. Just start your story at the word but.

[C]

Bye.

[F]

Cut to the chase, in other words. All right. Well, in a nutshell, it just turned out to be one of those situations where, I mean, I had a great time with Amanda, but I had another date the other night. We went out last Friday, Amanda and I, but I also went out with. With someone named Carolyn on Saturday night.

[C]

Was this somebody from the office also?

[F]

As a matter of fact, Carolyn does work at the office.

[C]

All right, Amanda. I think she mentioned that she knew about that.

[F]

Oh, really?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

But you're saying that Amanda said it was Friday, you went out with Amanda on Friday night, then the immediate following night went out with this other girl.

[F]

That's right.

[D]

And what's her name?

[F]

Carolyn.

[D]

Okay, because we like that. We need to put flowcharts together.

[C]

There's no foul here. Yet you're a single guy. You had back to back dates. That's okay.

[B]

What happened with Carolyn?

[F]

Well, I actually had a great time with Carolyn and I really enjoyed the time that I had with her. And I was thinking about asking Carolyn out for another date.

[D]

So what is the problem with going out with Amanda on a second date if.

[F]

All right, guys, here's the deal.

[A]

Oh, boy.

[B]

Okay, now we get to the deal.

[C]

Now we're digging in.

[F]

The thing about Carolyn is that Carolyn used to work for Amanda. Okay?

[C]

Okay.

[F]

And Carolyn no longer works there at the office.

[C]

All right?

[F]

And one of the reasons why she no longer works there is because of Amanda. And simply. Okay, simply, simply put, I. Again, I had a better time when I had a better time going out with Carolyn the next night than I did going out with Amanda the night before.

[C]

And if Carolyn finds out you're going out with Amanda, then Carolyn will bail.

[F]

Right.

[A]

And.

[F]

Well, the other thing, if you really want to know the truth about it, Amanda got kind of psycho about things, if you really want to know the truth.

[B]

What do you mean?

[F]

Well, you know, situations like hounding people at work and stuff and reading other people's emails and things like that. I don't know how she gets access to this stuff, but nonetheless, she gets the access. So she reads other people's email and stuff. And I don't know if I'm really down to go for that kind of stuff now.

[C]

That's the stuff that Carolyn was telling you.

[F]

That's the stuff. Well, that's the stuff. Let's put it that way. Let's put it like this. I was told by somebody who knows the story that these are the things that Amanda does.

[C]

Amanda, you know anything about that?

[E]

I don't. I don't know what he's talking about as far as that goes. If he's talking about pounding someone at work because they're taking things out of other people's desks and letting them go. Like I had to let Carolyn go because she thought she could take things home from other people's desks, then maybe.

[F]

That'S called psycho about that kind of stuff. All I know is just maybe you.

[E]

Didn'T find out about that. Carol.

[F]

I don't know what I told about the situation. I don't know anything about stealing things from other People's desks and stuff like that. And this is why you don't dip.

[C]

Your pen in the company incident. So, Amanda, you had to let Carolyn go because she was stealing from other people?

[E]

Yeah, I had to let Carolyn go.

[C]

And Carolyn is telling you, Abe, that Amanda's kind of psycho because she's reading other people's emails and all of that.

[F]

Well, that's the word that I got.

[D]

All right. And you enjoyed Carolyn better than Amanda, therefore you made the decision simply based on the quality of the date.

[F]

To put it bluntly, it was the quality of the date. It wasn't any of that psycho talk or anything like that. I just had a better time Saturday night than I did Friday night. Yeah, well, Ted and Human Resources said.

[D]

You'Re a nut bag, too.

[F]

I don't know anything about that. But I tell you what, though. I'm Ted's boss, so I can't say too much about me anymore.

[C]

Really?

[D]

I can't wait to be at the next big corporate meeting.

[C]

Well, no, she's gone now. She's fired. Oh.

[D]

Just between Amanda and Abe will be fun, too.

[C]

That would be. We'll bring a video camera on that one.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Amanda, is any of this making any sense to you now?

[E]

Yeah, it's all starting to come together. And, Abe, you know, if you want to make this choice, that's up to you. But I'm going to tell you, if you're comfortable with going out with a girl and trusting a girl who steals. Steals things out of other people's desks. You know that. I guess. Go ahead. Just wait for her to steal something from you.

[B]

Sleeping with.

[E]

Going with a girl who sleeps with two different guys from our company in the same night.

[F]

Sorry, I don't know anything about that either.

[B]

Yeah, of course you wouldn't.

[E]

Well, have fun at the Christmas party this year, okay?

[F]

And don't forget to have your meow mix this morning. Okay, ma'. Am. Thanks.

[C]

I think we'll bail at this. No, no, it's getting good. All right, you guys, let's bring in Lou from programming.

[F]

All right, Abe, that'd be fun.

[C]

Abe, we're gonna let you go, okay?

[F]

All right, great.

[E]

Hey, thanks for coming on with us, Abe.

[C]

See you.

[D]

Take care.

[C]

All right, Amanda. At least you got some closure on the deal, right? Wow.

[E]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

All right. Just the two of you just didn't get along real well, you and Carolyn, huh?

[E]

No, we really didn't.

[D]

No, you know, I think the real fun would be if we called Carolyn.

[C]

You just want to let it go Amanda.

[E]

Yeah? You know, I think he's the kind of guy. I'm just gonna let him go.

[C]

All right.

[D]

How often do you see him around the office? Like, when's the next time you and he will have to be in the same room?

[E]

Oh, gosh, I'm dreading that. I guess it'll be we see each other like twice a month at least.

[C]

Oh, that is gonna be so awkward. Oh, yeah, that is gonna be so awkward. All right, well, at least you got your closure, you know?

[E]

Yeah. Thanks, guys.

[C]

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