Vault: 2nd Date Update - Oden & Wendy

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Bert Show

Episode: Vault: 2nd Date Update – Oden & Wendy
Date: October 27, 2025
Host(s): Bert Show Cast – Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, and more
Key Guests: Odin (Caller), Wendy (Off-Air), Simone (Wendy’s Roommate/Liaison)

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Overview:

This “Vault: 2nd Date Update” episode focuses on classic Bert Show territory: dissecting the trials and mysteries of modern dating—specifically, why one participant (Wendy) didn’t return the calls of her recent date (Odin). The episode is loaded with the cast’s signature banter, quick-witted humor, and a no-holds-barred approach to uncomfortable truths, all with the intention of getting closure (or at least clarity).

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

Setting the Scene & Problem Introduction

• Odin's Recap of the Date (01:57–02:15):
  • Odin took Wendy to the Sundial for a four-to-five-hour great date, investing in connection and believing the experience warranted a second meeting.
    • “It was like four or five hours.” — Odin [02:06]
    • “There’s absolutely no reason why there should not have been a follow-up date, correct?” — Host [02:08]
• Odin is perplexed as to why Wendy has not returned his three post-date calls.

Introducing Wendy’s Roommate as Liaison

• Unexpected Spokesperson (02:32–02:49):
  • Instead of Wendy, her roommate Simone answers, explaining Wendy is present but does not wish to talk on air.
  • The hosts bust out their jokes about Simone's New York accent versus Wendy’s Mississippi roots, likening the household to a sitcom (03:02–03:06).
• Simone assumes the role of “liaison” to relay Wendy’s feelings.

Unpacking Wendy’s Decision Not to Respond

• Simone Delivers the (Brutal) Truth (03:16–03:56):
  • Simone candidly reveals the main concern: Wendy (and apparently others) thinks Odin might be gay and is simply “putting up this huge facade by continuing to call her.”
    • “She feels like maybe he should have laid off after the first call... she’s kind of fed up with him calling all the time.” — Simone [03:23]
    • “Wendy kind of feels like he’s gay and that he’s sort of putting up this huge facade by continuing to call her.” — Simone [04:02]
  • The hosts quickly acknowledge that these accusations “never end well.” [04:15]

Simone’s Evidence: The “Gay Radar” List

• Detailed “Theory” Breakdown:
  • Frequent mentions of Backstreet Club—a famous LGBTQ+ venue. [04:35]
    • “He was continuously talking about going to Backstreet Club. And there’s nobody that I know that wants to be even near there unless for some big soiree with her gay friends.” — Simone [04:35]
  • Praises for drag queens, living in Midtown, having two male roommates, and specifically, the presence of two French poodles—all become “clues” fueling the assumption. [04:58–05:24]
    • “This is the clincher for me that he has two French poodles.” — Simone [05:24]
  • The kicker: Odin didn’t make a significant physical move at date’s end, which, to Wendy, solidified her suspicion.

Hosts and Odin Respond

• Banter and Defending the Innocent:
  • Hosts riff on the flaws in the “gay radar” checklist:
    • “There are plenty of straight people that dance there.” — Host [04:51]
    • “Just because he has poodles, lives in midtown and goes to Backstreet doesn’t make him gay.” — Host [06:10]
  • Odin clarifies the poodles belong to a roommate named Andy. [06:39]
  • Host: “So they’re not yours.”
    Odin: “Yeah, no.” [06:46]
  • Odin stands his ground, stating: “No, I’m not gay. I might be bisexual. No, I’m not bisexual.” [07:16–07:22, tongue-in-cheek tone]
  • On not making a big move: Odin “didn’t want to be obnoxious.” [05:57]
  • Hosts joke about maybe he just needs “a more masculine woman.” [08:02]

Further Clarification and Wrap-Up

• Has Odin experienced this before?

  • “Not really. No. I mean, I’m gay because I’m friendly or whatever.” — Odin, dryly [07:36]
  • Asked if he’s effeminate, Odin shrugs: “Maybe a little bit. I mean, I’m not a big athlete.” [07:45]

• Simone Confirms Wendy’s Sentiment:

  • “This is exactly what she told me. She’s been talking about it all week. Every time he calls, she’s like, why is he calling again?” — Simone [08:20]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Simone’s straight-shooting style kept listeners riveted:
  • “She kind of feels like he’s putting on this huge facade... he pretty much outed it himself from what I heard on the date.” — Simone [04:21]
  • “This is the clincher for me... he has two French poodles.” — Simone [05:24]
• Odin’s exasperated innocence:
  • “If you found a place for 400 bucks in Midtown, you know, and it’s with two guys, what’s the big deal, you know, it doesn’t mean I’m gay.” — Odin [06:27]
• Hosts inject signature humor:
  • “It’s not like you’re a flight attendant or something where it’s a sure thing.” — Host [07:02]
  • “Maybe you just need a more masculine woman.” — Host [08:02]

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | Participants | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------|-----------------| | 01:44 | Odin’s reason for calling: intro to his dilemma | Host, Odin | | 02:27 | Attempting to reach Wendy—Simone steps in | Host, Simone | | 03:52 | Direct question: What did Odin do wrong? | Host, Simone | | 04:02 | Simone: “Wendy kind of feels like he’s gay…” | Simone | | 04:35 | Simone lists out Odin’s “gay radar” markers | Simone | | 05:24 | The poodle moment—humorous and pivotal | Simone | | 06:06 | Odin clarifies living situation and poodles | Odin, Hosts | | 07:16 | Odin’s sexuality dissected—clear statement | Odin, Hosts | | 08:04 | The humorous “need a more masculine woman” bit | Hosts, Simone | | 08:20 | Simone confirms Wendy’s feelings as the last word | Simone |

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Tone & Style

• Candid, irreverent, and honest: The hosts and Simone don’t shy away from addressing stereotypes but do so with a balance of directness and levity.
• Supportive but humorous: The show underscores the silliness of drawing conclusions from stereotypes while letting the situation unfold with empathy for both Oden and Wendy.

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Conclusion

In true Bert Show fashion, this “2nd Date Update” delivered realness, humor, and the relatable messiness of dating—a scenario where miscommunication, assumptions, and stereotypes derailed what one person thought was a terrific date.
Simone’s bold honesty, Odin’s bemused protestations, and the hosts’ trademark wisecracks kept the episode light (despite the potentially touchy subject), ultimately highlighting how quickly first impressions and rumors can spiral out of control in the dating world.

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Transcript

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[C]

The Birch show for the life of me, I can't figure out why guys keep doing this. We call it second date update. Odin goes on a great date with Wendy. Wendy, that's her name?

[D]

Odin.

[E]

Yeah, yeah. And Wendy.

[C]

Okay. He really does it upright. Takes her to the sun dial sundial and has just a really great time with her. He spent how many hours with her?

[E]

It was like four or five hours.

[C]

Four or five hours with her. It was a fantastic date. And there's absolutely no reason why there should not have been a follow up date, correct?

[E]

Yeah, that's right.

[C]

All right, so Odin called us up, wanted to call her and find out exactly why she hasn't returned his phone calls. Because it seems so. Right. So we're trying to get Wendy on the phone right now. Hi, Wendy.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

No, no.

[C]

Yes.

[F]

But you got our house.

[C]

Who is this?

[F]

This is Simone.

[C]

Hey, Simone. How are you?

[F]

I'm doing well.

[C]

Where's Wendy?

[F]

She's here. She just doesn't really want to get on the phone.

[B]

Aw.

[G]

No.

[F]

She's a sore sport.

[C]

So you're going to be the spokesperson?

[F]

I will be the liaison today.

[C]

Okay, well, here's the deal, Simone.

[E]

She's from Mississippi. She ain't used to the hotfalutin radio technology.

[C]

Yeah, where are you from? Because I hear an accent there.

[F]

Also, I'm from New York.

[C]

New York and Mississippi living together in the same house.

[F]

I'm breaking her in.

[H]

I bet it's like a sitcom.

[C]

So did she hear what was going on, or.

[F]

Yeah, she knows. I mean, she just doesn't really feel like publicly exposing this boy.

[E]

But the New York girl ain't got a problem.

[H]

Wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Simone, you just said publicly exposing this boy.

[F]

Well, I mean, she feels like maybe he should have laid off after the first call. And, I mean, I don't know, she's kind of fed up with him calling all the time.

[C]

Well, he thinks that the date went great. Right, Odin?

[E]

Yeah, it was pretty good. I only called three times, and.

[C]

Yeah, and he thinks it great. And three doesn't seem like too much of a number. Yeah, that sounds all right. Odin, do you know Simone?

[E]

Oh, hey. Yeah, yeah, we've talked a couple times.

[C]

Okay. So, you guys. So, Simone, what happened? I mean, everything sounds fine. Why won't Wendy go out with him again?

[F]

Well, not that I'm going to start, like, national radio rumors.

[C]

Well, you won't have to worry about that. We're just in Atlanta. Barely.

[H]

We have, like, six listeners.

[F]

But. Well, I haven't met Odin, so I shouldn't say it, but Wendy kind of feels like he's gay and that he's sort of putting up this huge facade by continuing to call her.

[C]

These never end well. These never, never end well.

[F]

And she kind of feels like he's putting on this huge facade by, like, continuing to call her when, like, he pretty much outed it himself from what I heard on the date.

[C]

What did she tell you that he said or did that made her think that maybe he was gay?

[F]

Well, first of all, and I know this, being from New York City, he was continuously talking about Going to Backstreet Club. And there's nobody that I know that wants to be like, even near there. Unless for some, like, big soiree with her gay friends.

[C]

There are plenty of straight people that dance there. Oh yeah, there are. There are plenty of straight people that go there, brother.

[F]

Uh huh. I haven't been there that often.

[C]

All right, what else?

[F]

And they continued to talk about it and about how funny the drag queens were there. And then when they went over to his house, which is in midtown, which, I mean, it's not like Chelsea, but whatever. And then he's got two guy roommates still. And this is the clincher for me that he has two French poodles.

[C]

He's not.

[F]

I mean, that did it for me right there. I was like, honey, you best be backing off of that. And then, and then, I don't know. I guess. I guess all the people at their office thinks he's gay already. And that was kind of why she went out with him. Was. Was like, no, no, no, he's not. I'm gonna go out. I'll see. And I guess at the end of the day, he didn't even try to kiss her or like even make really a physical advance.

[H]

Wait a minute. Odin just said. Odin? Didn't you say that you guys did a little smoochy Smoochy?

[C]

Just a little?

[E]

Yeah, just a little.

[F]

But it was like, I didn't want.

[E]

To be obnoxious, you know, I'm not one. I'm not going to be a dude.

[F]

But you guys had a great date. You're allowed to be obnoxious after that.

[E]

Yeah, well, you know, I thought next.

[C]

Week, you know, he's not guilty of being gay at all. I mean, just because he has poodles, lives in midtown and goes to back.

[B]

Street.

[C]

Doesn'T make him gay.

[F]

Right. But the rumors were already there, and a lot of people had said that he maybe was. And she kind of just solidified it in her mind after the state that he is Odin. If you.

[E]

Yeah, I mean, if you found. If you found a place for 400 bucks in Midtown, you know, and it's with two guys, what's the big deal, you know, it doesn't mean I'm gay.

[H]

Odin, are those your French poodles or somebody else's?

[E]

No, they're Andy's.

[F]

Oh, so Andy's gay? No, no, no.

[C]

Okay, so they're not yours.

[E]

Yeah, no.

[H]

You got a cheap place to live, which is great. We all like that now.

[G]

What about back?

[E]

It's a cheap place to Live. It's in midtown, and, you know, I got a couple of poodles. Not a big deal.

[H]

Well, let's talk about Backstreet a little. Do you just like to go there? A lot of straight people hang out at Backstreet.

[E]

Yeah? Yeah.

[C]

I mean, it's not like you're a flight attendant or something where it's a sure thing.

[E]

You did not just say that. Yeah, you know, sometimes we go out to back streets. It's not a big deal.

[C]

So you're not gay?

[E]

No, I'm not gay.

[C]

You're not bisexual?

[F]

I'm not.

[E]

I might be bisexual. No, I'm not bisexual.

[C]

Okay, you're making a joke. You're making a funny gay joke.

[F]

See? No.

[C]

Now, has this ever happened to you before? Odin, where other people mistake you for being gay?

[E]

Not really. No. I mean, I'm gay because I'm friendly or whatever.

[H]

Are you effeminate? Kind of. I mean, has anybody ever said that told you that you were effeminate?

[E]

Maybe a little bit. I mean, I'm not a big athlete.

[C]

Well, something somewhere along the lines is turning her off because she's thinking you're gay.

[H]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah. I mean, this is ridiculous.

[H]

Maybe you just need a more masculine woman.

[F]

Maybe.

[H]

I was just joking.

[C]

All right, well, Simone, we asked for total honesty, and you certainly gave that to us.

[E]

I like talking to the roommate better than I like talking to the girl.

[C]

She's willing to give it up big time. All right, Simone, at this point, we're gonna let you go. Okay?

[F]

Okay.

[C]

All right. Now? You're sure? Now? You're not kidding? This is really what she said?

[F]

This is exactly what she told me. She's been talking about it all week. Every time he calls, she's like, what is he. Why is he calling again? To send over the Pluto's to come get.

[C]

All right, Simone. See ya.

[F]

All right, bye.

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