Vault: Ask A Race Part 2

Summary

The Bert Show – "Vault: Ask A Race Part 2"

Original Air Date: July 27, 2026
Hosts: The Bert Show Cast – Bert Weiss, Natalie, Krista, Carl, Jay, Cassie, Tommy, and others
Episode Theme: Open, candid, and often humorous conversations about race and cultural differences in day-to-day life, featuring listener call-ins with questions for people of different races.

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Episode Overview

"Ask A Race Part 2" continues The Bert Show's special segment where callers of one race are invited to ask frank questions—sometimes awkward, often insightful—of people from another race. With the participation of hosts and listeners, the segment aims to break down defensiveness, foster understanding, and share authentic moments about cultural perceptions and habits, all while keeping the vibe honest and humorous.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Icebreakers, Privacy, and Getting to Know Each Other

• Topic: Why do white people often ask "What do you do for a living?" so quickly when meeting someone?
  • Natalie explains that for many white people, asking about work is just a typical icebreaker, part of how they get to know one another.

    "White people just think that that's part of how we get to know each other. So we ask... Where do you live? What do you do for a living?" – Natalie (01:37)

  • Carl (Black male perspective) notes that in his experience, white people are often "too inquisitive" and start personal questions early, which can feel invasive.

    "Too many questions at the beginning." – Carl (02:20)

  • Bert Weiss adds that Black people may be more private, even omitting last names when introducing themselves.

    "I don't ever give my last name. I don't think you all know my last name." – Bert Weiss (02:21)

  • The group discusses alternative small talk starters, such as "Where are you from?" and how that varies by region (e.g., Atlanta’s diverse population).

2. Cultural Greetings and Community Bonds

• Caller Question: Why do Black people often greet each other warmly in public, even if they're strangers?
  • Caller: Observed in public that Black people often greet each other as if they're acquaintances, something she doesn't see in white communities.
  • Carl & Bert: Attribute this to a shared sense of experience and history rather than just skin color.

    "I think it's just what we've been through. We feel connected because we've all... been through the same struggle." – Bert Weiss (04:59)

  • Carl: Compares it to Americans connecting abroad—looking for familiar faces in unfamiliar places.

3. Cleanliness, Sharing, and Dog Kisses

• Curiosity about White Habits: Why do some white people let their dogs lick their faces?
  • Bert shares what he's learned—a dog trainer claims it's about asserting "alpha" status, but finds it odd.

    "She said she does that to assert her alpha-ness in the pack... So I thought, okay, that's gotta be the reason white people let that happen." – Bert Weiss (05:54)

  • Krista & Natalie recall previous discussions about Black people's higher "standard of cleanliness" and germaphobia, with examples of not sharing utensils or drinks—even among family.
  • Co-worker tells a story about not drinking from the same glass after a white colleague did so unprompted.

    "White person. And she's like, are you gonna drink that? I was like, no, I need another one." – Co-worker (06:48)

4. Food Habits: The Pork Question

• Topic: Why do many Black people avoid eating pork?
  • Bert (and others) explain that for many, it's a combination of religious reasons and personal health, part of a larger move to become more conscious about lifestyle and ancestral habits.

    "We become conscious about how you've been living your life, how your ancestors lived...you decide to make a change to divert from what you thought was a healthy way of living." – Bert Weiss (07:18)

  • Caller: Notes that white people often go vegetarian; Black people typically cut pork but not chicken or beef.

    "White people turn to being vegetarians. Black people just cut out pork..." – Caller (07:47)

  • Humorous responses: Some hosts admit they couldn't give up bacon or miss pork chops.

5. Tattoos and Skin Tone

• Caller Question: Why do Black people get tattoos even if they’re difficult to see on darker skin?
  • The hosts laugh and admit they’ve asked the same question.
  • Krista (to Bert): "Does any of you guys in here have tattoos?"
  • Natalie and Bert: Some tattoos are visible (e.g., colored green), and joke about placement.
  • This leads to a funny aside about the host’s own tattoos, with Carl joking he has a "butterfly in the small of his back" (08:52).

6. Labels: African American or Black?

• Group Discussion: The team discusses confusion over the "politically correct" term (African American vs. Black), with many unsure which to use.
  • Jay: "We don't know what's politically correct or not." (09:15)
  • Krista: Describes the evolving language and that fear of offending makes conversations difficult.

    "I can't say that because somebody's gonna be mad at me for saying black girl hair...But we do have different hair." – Krista (09:37)

7. Black Hair and the Touching Debate

• Caller Question: Why do white women sometimes feel the need to touch Black women's hair, especially if it's braided or styled?
  • Many Black panelists (and men as well) share that unsolicited touching is common and unwelcome.

    "White women will come up and touch your hair." – Caller (10:39)

  • Co-worker & Natalie describe the time and effort involved in styling Black hair, making it more intrusive when touched:

    "It takes half a day, so we don't need you touching it." – Co-worker (11:37)

  • Bert: Makes it clear, "That's violation, right, Natalie? You don't touch a black woman's hair, period." (10:58)

8. Gender, Attraction, and Stereotypes

• Carl's Question for White People: Why do some white men seem obsessed with a particular kind of sexual act (oral sex)?
  • Carl tells a story about a white friend always prioritizing it with women, to the puzzlement of Black hosts, who see it as secondary (the "motion in the ocean" comes first).
  • Natalie tries to explain from her perspective, noting "white guys are talking about that... it's saying they'd do more than just the motion."
  • Bert: Shares, with laughter and mild awkwardness, the cultural difference in how sexual prowess is discussed among Black and white men.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On White People Asking Questions:

  "Too many questions at the beginning." – Carl (02:20)
  "I'm going to try to see how long I can go without asking where they live and what they do for a living." – Carl (03:47)

• On Cultural Connection:

  "We feel connected because we've all... been through the same struggle." – Bert Weiss (04:59)
  "That's no different than a traveler going to another country and... running into an American." – Carl (05:16)

• On Cleanliness Norms:

  "White person. And she's like, are you gonna drink that? I was like, no, I need another one." – Co-worker (06:48)

• On Tattoos:

  "I know a guy...he has a tattoo of a Daffy Duck...dude is real dark...only thing you see is a red fire." – Bert Weiss (08:24)

• On Labels:

  "The politically correct term changes every couple of years." – Natalie (09:17)

• On Touching Black Hair:

  "I don't even let my sister touch my hair." – Co-worker (11:11)
  "It takes half a day, so we don't need you touching it." – Co-worker (11:37)

• On Gender and Sexual Norms:

  "We pride ourselves on how we can...the motion in the ocean...that's always secondary." – Bert Weiss (12:58)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:00 | Start of Ask A Race: Structure explained | | 01:25-02:21| Icebreakers, privacy, why white people ask personal questions | | 04:08 | Black people greeting each other in public settings | | 05:46 | White people and dog kisses; differences in attitudes about germs | | 07:06 | Black people's aversion to pork—religion and health reasons | | 08:07 | Tattoo visibility and color on different skin tones | | 09:05 | "African American" vs. "Black": Label confusion | | 10:13 | White people touching Black women's hair | | 11:49 | Carl's candid "white people" sex question |

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Tone and Language

The overall tone is playful, direct, and candid, with an undercurrent of humor. The hosts and callers are both self-deprecating and honest about their cultural quirks and confusion, often laughing at their own and each other's stereotypes. The segment is designed to encourage openness and learning—even when the answers aren't clear or the questions are a little uncomfortable.

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Takeaways

• The episode offers real, unfiltered dialogue about race, everyday behaviors, and mutual perceptions, with moments of both discomfort and laughter.
• Major recurring themes are cultural privacy, approaches to small talk, community bonds, personal boundaries (especially around hair), and the ongoing evolution of labels and what's "politically correct."
• Listeners are encouraged to explore their curiosity respectfully, understanding that not every question has a simple answer—but asking (and answering) can bring people closer together.

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Transcript

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[Natalie]

You're on the vert show. This is my favorite segment that we do on the radio because we kind

[Krista]

of let it go. We let go of all of our sort of defensiveness and anger and just ask some questions about race.

[Natalie]

We call it ask a race. And if you're white, you call up, you ask black people a question that you've always wanted to ask and vice versa. Also here is Krista. Good Morning. You're on Q100. Hi.

[Caller 1]

Hey, good morning. Love you guys. Hey, Carl, stay positive.

[Caller 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[Caller 1]

Quick question. Why must you know where I work? I mean, when I don't even know your name. I don't know anything about you.

[Carl]

You said this before.

[Bert Weiss]

I said the same thing, girl.

[Caller 1]

I'm telling you.

[Natalie]

Yeah, we've brought this up before. I think that white people just think that that's part of how we get to know each other. I mean, so we ask white people. Ask other white people. Just as breaking the ice. There are a couple of questions. Where do you live? What do you do for a living?

[Caller 1]

No, it's always the first question. Hey, what do you work? Well, how about you? You know, stop. That's. That's an inappropriate question. You don't even know my name.

[Jay]

Well, I think work sort of defines who we are as people. So that's just the question that is common to ask because that's a big part of our lives, and that's what's going on right now.

[Natalie]

Didn't you say before, Carl, that you think that white people are just too nosy?

[Bert Weiss]

Yeah, I think So, I mean, I just not. Well, not just nosy, but just inquisitive is the word that I use. Very inquisitive.

[Carl]

Too many questions at the beginning.

[Bert Weiss]

Very way too many. And for instance, say if we meet each other, hey, my name is. Hey, what's going on? My name is Carl. Bert would say, hey, Bert Weiss. First and last name. I don't ever get my last name. I don't think you all know my last name.

[Krista]

Why is that, do you think?

[Bert Weiss]

It's just. We're just more personal.

[Carl]

Private.

[Co-worker]

More private.

[Carl]

So what's the beginning? If you don't ask questions, what would. In your. A polite conversation would start with what? Like, there has to be. So what would be a good first couple questions?

[Bert Weiss]

I think down here, a really good icebreaker is where you're from. That's how I always. So many people are from.

[Carl]

Not in Atlanta.

[Bert Weiss]

Exactly.

[Natalie]

All right, so after that. So now we've just killed one minute. Then what do you ask?

[Carl]

Where do you work? Where do you live? How much money you make? What kind of car you drive?

[Natalie]

Like if you. And if you. And Brandon, let's say two black people were just hanging out for the first time after the first 30 seconds, what do y' all talk about? Well, Brandon only talk about sports, so it doesn't. Right. Brandon's a bad example.

[Jay]

Are you not. You and Natalie, you just met.

[Natalie]

Well, anybody. I mean, another black person. What do you ask?

[Carl]

Well, Brandon wouldn't be talking to Natalie because she's a girl.

[Krista]

Go ahead.

[Jay]

Now.

[Bert Weiss]

Come on, Brandon.

[Co-worker]

Well, it depends on where you are. Like if you're at an, I guess, a charity event, you probably talk about the charity or the auction or something like that, whatever's going on around you, and then get into the personal stuff.

[Natalie]

So nothing deep immediately.

[Co-worker]

Not immediately.

[Bert Weiss]

What would you say? I would say at least 10 to 15 minutes into the conversation before you start getting into personal questions.

[Co-worker]

Yeah. About your family, at least all in your pocket.

[Natalie]

We just dive right in.

[Bert Weiss]

I'm.

[Carl]

Next time I meet someone, I'm going to try to do that. I'm going to see how long I can go without asking them where they live and what they do for a living.

[Natalie]

I'm going the opposite way. I'm going to ask more intense questions, like, can I see your Social Security number?

[Carl]

Can I hold your credit card for a minute?

[Natalie]

Good morning, Lisa. You're on Q100.

[Caller 1]

Good morning, guys. I love your show.

[Natalie]

Thank you.

[Caller 1]

I have a question for the African American race. I've always noticed that when I'M out in the store or restaurant, I see black people greet each other and start up conversations like they all know each other, but I know they don't because I hear them exchange names and ask each other where they stay. And I see it happen a lot more with the men speaking to the women.

[Bert Weiss]

It must be in an area where there's no black people. Is that true?

[Caller 1]

No, it's not. Because there's several malls I've been to where I've been a minority, and it's happened.

[Natalie]

So you feel like black people when they greet each other, even if they're strangers, greet each other like they know each other.

[Caller 1]

But white people don't do that. You see a stranger in a store, and you just sometimes ignore them, yet

[Carl]

they won't ask each other what they do for a living.

[Natalie]

Don't be too personal with me or act like I know you. Okay, let me. Let me scratch at the surface of this. Are black people inherently more bonded with each other because of your skin color than white people are?

[Bert Weiss]

I don't think it's the skin color. I think it's just what we've been through. I think we feel connected because of what we've all. We all feel. We've all kind of been through the same struggle, per se, you know? So if I was to see Brandon in a crowd of white folks, I would try to make contact with him like, yo, what up, dude? I'm with you, man. You're not by yourself out here, you

[Carl]

know, but see, that's no different than a traveler going to another country and. And running into an American looking for something.

[Bert Weiss]

Yeah.

[Carl]

Like, if you're in the middle of, you know, like a. Whatever, tiny little town in Germany, and you hear somebody in the corner speaking English, like, you immediately go over them because there's connection.

[Natalie]

Carl, you got a question for white people?

[Bert Weiss]

Yeah, I had one. Now, I think I know the answer for this, y'.

[Caller 1]

All.

[Bert Weiss]

When it comes to licking in the face, why is there has to be a reason why you let your animals lick you in the face?

[Natalie]

I don't. I don't either, but I know a lot of white people that. On the lips and stuff, too?

[Bert Weiss]

Yes. Right in the mouth.

[Natalie]

No, not.

[Bert Weiss]

Think I. I found out why.

[Natalie]

Why?

[Bert Weiss]

I'm in dog training right now, and the dog trainer says that dogs associate you. They greet the pack leader by licking you in the face. So when we were leaving, all leaving the dog training, before she left, she said, give daddy. I mean, give mommy a kiss. And he let her lick him. In the face. So she said she does that to assert her alpha ness in the pack or whatnot. So I thought, okay, that's gotta be the reason why white people let that happen.

[Natalie]

Didn't we establish last time that, like, black people in a lot of ways have a higher standard of cleanliness than white people do in some ways? Like, we talked about the dog licking last time, and there was something with a spoon or something.

[Krista]

Germaphobia, like sharing food, like rinsing off your silver.

[Bert Weiss]

Restaurants. I dropped my fork. Must have dropped my silverware in the water.

[Natalie]

That's right.

[Bert Weiss]

Before I used it and wiped it off.

[Co-worker]

Yeah, I had a co worker, we all went out to happy hour, and I don't know why, she just grabbed my martini and took a drink. She's like, oh, that tastes good. And she just put it right back.

[Natalie]

White person.

[Co-worker]

White person. And she's like, are you gonna drink that? I was like, no, I'm not gonna drink that. I need another one.

[Caller 2]

I don't even share spoons and forks are my family, really. If, like, we're eating something and they don't want the rest, I will go get my own spoon or fork.

[Natalie]

What is the deal with pork? It seems like a.

[Carl]

Well, it's the other white meat that's the problem, which could be an issue.

[Natalie]

There's a large amount of black people that have, I mean, really strong feelings against pork. Why?

[Bert Weiss]

A lot of that. A lot of people that I know that does that, do that is religious reasons, and because of just health reasons, really. I mean, it's nothing like just. I think you, at one point, you. You're just given all. You're just giving anything. And at one point, we become not just black people, but anybody. You become conscious about how you've been living your life, how your ancestors lived their life. And you become conscious about it, and you decide to make a change to divert from what you thought was a healthy way of living. So it's just a matter of just becoming more conscious of what you were before.

[Caller 2]

White people turn to being vegetarians. Black people just cut out pork. We like chicken and beef, so we're not willing to give that up. So white people.

[Carl]

That's a smarter way to go right there.

[Krista]

A life without bacon is a life I cannot live.

[Natalie]

Me neither.

[John Daly]

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[Carl]

I get it.

[Bert Weiss]

Don't get me wrong. I miss pork chops.

[Natalie]

Here is Jay. Good morning. You're on Q100. This is the Ask a Race segment.

[Caller 1]

Hey, guys. Love the show. My question is, why does African Americans get tattoos if you cannot see them?

[Natalie]

Why do black people get tattoos?

[Bert Weiss]

I'm sorry, I was supposed to say that.

[Natalie]

You can't say that. So the question is, why do black people get tattoos if you can't see them?

[Bert Weiss]

You know what, Jay? That's a good question, man. I know a guy, he has a tattoo of a Daffy Duck. You know, Daffy Duck was a black duck and dude is real dark. So he has a picture of a Daffy Duck smoking a blunt. So I don't. Only thing you see is a red fire. I don't know. I don't know why he did. Asking the same question.

[Krista]

Does any of you guys in here have tattoos?

[Natalie]

Uh huh.

[Bert Weiss]

You can see mine. Huh? It's green. On. On.

[Krista]

Where's your dad's caramel?

[Bert Weiss]

Brazil.

[Carl]

Carl's got a butterfly in the small of his back

[Krista]

stamp.

[Carl]

Yeah, there it is, right?

[Krista]

Oh yeah, you can see that. Yeah.

[Natalie]

I keep seeing you guys snicker when anybody calls up and says African American.

[Bert Weiss]

It's funny because last. The last lady said African American, then she said black. So she was trying. What's funny to me is that she's trying.

[Krista]

Stop trying.

[Jay]

We don't know what's politically correct or not.

[Natalie]

Right. It seems like the politically correct term changes every couple of years.

[Krista]

Yes.

[Natalie]

Like it goes from African American to black to. So I think white people are confused.

[Co-worker]

Yeah. Because Jen pulled me in when she was doing her commercial and she asked me, you know, what can I say? Like black, African American. But some people are offended. So you do have to be careful, unfortunately. But it doesn't matter.

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[Krista]

Because I wanted to talk about the differences between white girl hair and black girl hair. And I was like, I can't say that because somebody's gonna be mad at me for saying black girl hair. You know, but we do have different hair. Right. Like our hair is different. Like there's, you know, a difference in course level or whatever. But this treatment I was talking about works on both. So I was like, how do I say it works on both without being offensive? And Nellie goes, you can't. You can't. And the reason is, don't talk about it because you'll offend somebody.

[Carl]

And it's not anybody in this room that we're concerned with offending. It's our parents. Cause they don't know. They're still stuck in, you know, 10, 20 years ago, 30 years ago.

[Natalie]

So it's like sticking with the hair thing here. Here's Michelle. Good morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller 1]

Good morning. Love the show.

[Natalie]

Thank you.

[Caller 1]

I have a question for the white ladies, really in the room. And it's kind of related to what Carl said about personal space. Why do white ladies feel the need to touch black women's hair? Especially when they have braids or twists, they come and say, oh, how pretty. And touch, touch, touch.

[Bert Weiss]

Same thing for black guys too.

[Caller 2]

Yeah. Not just black ladies hair. I've had my hair touched by many white people that work.

[Natalie]

White women will come up and touch your hair.

[Caller 2]

Yeah.

[Carl]

And say, why?

[Krista]

Interesting.

[Bert Weiss]

I don't know what Jim just said. Interesting. I mean, that's what I'm saying. Oh, no, I'm saying that's what they would say, right?

[Krista]

I'm saying it's interesting that they would

[Carl]

say you're an exotic dog or something like, oh, look at this one.

[Bert Weiss]

Exactly.

[Jay]

Yeah, I don't do that. So I don't know the answer to that question.

[Natalie]

So randomly, people would. Like people you don't know will come up and touch your hair.

[Krista]

Yeah.

[Bert Weiss]

And that's violation, right, Natalie, you don't touch a black woman's hair, period.

[Natalie]

Why?

[Co-worker]

You just don't touch people, period. I mean, someone that you don't know,

[Natalie]

but why don't you touch a black woman's hair?

[Bert Weiss]

I mean, they put so much time and effort into it, man. I mean, they.

[Co-worker]

I don't even let my sister touch my hair. It's like. I mean, I do so much too. It's like, why are you touching me To.

[Natalie]

To do what you put.

[Co-worker]

So she just wants to stroke it or she wants to comb it.

[Carl]

But like, what are you. You're saying it takes you hours or whatever to get it right?

[Co-worker]

Right.

[Carl]

And then you don't want anybody.

[Co-worker]

Half hour, 40 minutes, and you're coming in just twirling my hair. Why?

[Natalie]

There's a lot of white people that have no idea what a black woman has to go through to get her hair straight. Most white people don't have any idea.

[Bert Weiss]

I had no idea.

[Co-worker]

It takes half a day, so we don't need you touching it.

[Bert Weiss]

A lot of us guys have no idea.

[Carl]

How long does it take you to do your hair, Carl?

[Bert Weiss]

I shine the shit up.

[Natalie]

All right, Carl, give us one more for white people.

[Bert Weiss]

All right, this is the one. Now, I wanted to wait till after 8:30 for this one. Now this one, I can say this one may be a little ignorant, but I just wanted to know because it affects us both. I had a buddy of mine, the white dude, every time we went out, every time he went out, you Would always hear him make comments about women. Guys, we always say what we would do to a woman when we, you know, when we're looking to talk to guys. Talk to women, rather. This guy would always say, how hungry? Let's say, how hungry? Dude said that. Oh, this girl walked by, he said, man, I'll make a mustache out of her.

[Natalie]

Oh, so white guy was talking about.

[Bert Weiss]

Exactly.

[Jay]

Australia.

[Bert Weiss]

What's the obsession with that dude? He would always say, I would love to do that. He said that before anything else.

[Natalie]

See, now white people think that black dudes don't do that at all.

[Bert Weiss]

We pride ourselves in. That's not true, you know, in our mascot.

[Caller 1]

Step it up.

[Carl]

Don't touch her hair.

[Jay]

But.

[Natalie]

What were you gonna say that you pride yourself on What?

[Bert Weiss]

I mean, I think black guys, we pride ourselves on how we can. How we can. The motion in the ocean. I think that's what we pride ourselves on. As opposed to. That's always secondary. So if we can't really, you know, get you there first of all, then we'll try that as secondary. But white guys, white girls, that's always the. That's always primary. White women, too.

[Natalie]

I think when white guys are talking about that with. About other women, it's saying that they would do more than just the motion, that she's so hot. That he'd go down there without no.

[Bert Weiss]

No problem. But this dude, he would say, man, I love just to do that. Only, I mean, he would always mention that's all he wanted to do. That's. That's all I wanted to do.

[Natalie]

I'm like, God dang, dude, I can understand it. I can't answer for a whole race, Just my house.

[Bert Weiss]

I'm looking for answers. Bird. I'm looking for an.

[Carl]

Now it's gotten uncomfortable in beer.

[Natalie]

Listen, it's the vert show.

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