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The Bird show look who's here everybody.
Unidentified Female Host
What's up? Hey.
Bert
Slowly but surely getting back on the regular schedule.
Unidentified Female Co-host
You look almost coherent and stuff.
Bert
Yeah, I didn't take a painkiller this morning, so I'm gonna be a real in about an hour.
Unidentified Female Co-host
It looks like you have less apparatus on it than you've had last week.
Bert
I think it's about the same, right?
Unidentified Male Commentator
I had this thing on, it's the
Unidentified Female Co-host
same brace, but I mean it seems like it was rat more. Burt, by the way, had knee surgery not last Thursday, a week ago Thursday, and proudly declared I'll be in on Monday. I might be a little late. And by a little late, he meant seven days.
Bert
Well, I was basing it on the first knee surgery, the left one, and I can't even remember how many days I took off for that one. But this knee, the right knee, turned out to be a lot worse than the left one. And the pain on this one has just been so much more. I don't know if I'm just getting softer as I get older or Tom was saying that the meniscus was a real problem because it tore in half. So there are pins in there. And when do you repeat that sentence?
Unidentified Male Commentator 2
Right now, because I have no idea what you just said. I don't want to.
Bert
So at the end of the day, this one was worse because the ACL was ripped from the femur and the meniscus, Wendy just completely cut in two like this and was dangling between two bones just like this.
Unidentified Female Host
Can you tell everybody how to avoid this surgery?
Unidentified Female Co-host
Yeah, don't start playing soccer when you're 50.
Unidentified Male Commentator
Not 50.
Jeannie
Sorry.
Bert
No, not really. I mean, if you play any kind of cutting sport, you're going to be susceptible to a knee injury.
Unidentified Female Host
What's a cutting sport?
Bert
You know, like a volleyball, basketball, tennis, where the soccer side facade.
Unidentified Male Commentator
Yeah.
Unidentified Female Host
Okay.
Bert
You know, chances are fairly good if you're playing golf. You got a better chance of not doing this.
Unidentified Female Host
Doing okay. Okay.
Unidentified Male Commentator
Yeah. The knees don't seem to really be built for side to side.
Bert
No, not really.
Unidentified Male Commentator
Yeah.
Bert
Now, the way the knee is built, it's so complicated in there and so many things can go wrong. But some people go their whole lives playing soccer and never have an injury, which impresses me to no end.
Unidentified Female Co-host
Well, some people start playing soccer at age 5. You started playing at over 40, and that's kind of.
Bert
And even now I'm not bummed that I tried it, you know, I mean, what are you going to do? I mean, it looked like it was going to be fun, and I had fun for three games.
Unidentified Female Host
You're not going back, though, are you?
Bert
I'm pretty sure I'm not going back.
Unidentified Female Co-host
Retired.
Unidentified Female Host
I think Stacy might have something to say about that.
Bert
I think it was a short, fruitless career. 03. No goals, no assists, no wins.
Unidentified Male Commentator 2
What about any sports then? Are you going to go back to sports in general?
Unidentified Male Commentator
Yeah.
Bert
Melissa and I were talking about this on Saturday night. I don't know what to go and play. The thing about soccer that was so cool is that it was physical, you know, and you could really get beat up and do some beating up, too.
Jeannie
And.
Unidentified Male Commentator
Well, Burr likes competition. I keep telling them that because Katie's had this surgery and one of the things that she had to change was forward motion. Sports with forward. So she can still run, she can still bike, she, you know, anything. But she can't do soccer. Shouldn't be doing tennis, even though we do tennis a little bit. But I mean, there's competitive sports out there where you just. It's just forward motion and your knee will be fine.
Unidentified Female Host
How about like rowing? Because then you just sit and then use your arms.
Bert
Where am I gonna go? Chattahoochee to do competitive rowing?
Unidentified Female Host
Yeah. I mean, that would keep you off crutches.
Unidentified Female Co-host
Hey, I'm not. Look, I'm not buying into this nonsense
Unidentified Male Commentator 2
that you guys have been saying curling.
Unidentified Female Co-host
But curling does sound like a safe opt.
Bert
And if I started curling today, I could be the best in the United States in five days.
Unidentified Female Traveler
Hell, yeah.
Bert
Because there's only three people playing.
Unidentified Female Co-host
And the good thing is if you do damage your knee all you'd have to do is kneel down and you're icing it.
Bert
And you would have to make up such a great excuse, because if you jacked up your knee curling, you'd have to make up a million different excuses, really, what happened.
Unidentified Female Host
It would have to be. You got attacked.
Bert
It's getting better every day. And I'm taking less painkillers every day. It's tiring. Like, I don't think people know the process is just tiring because you have
Unidentified Male Commentator 2
to stay off of it for, what, six weeks?
Bert
Yeah.
Unidentified Female Co-host
So what did you do this weekend? Were you even able to leave the house on that nice Saturday or anything?
Bert
Saturday night, Melissa and I went up to the bidet's. The BBA family.
Bretzky
Right.
Unidentified Female Co-host
That's right.
Bert
For dinner. But I was so beat at the end of that thing. And outside of that, seriously, Jeff, it's been same position on the couch for seven days, just watching basketball, working on the computer.
Unidentified Female Co-host
Is your marriage stronger than ever, or is one of you calling Evan poor little thing?
Bert
Stacy's not only catering to the kids now. Now she's catering to me also. And I could see she's just at the end, you know, it's a lot of work for her, so I'm. I'm glad I'm to a point where I can start getting back to work. It's probably best for the whole family.
Unidentified Female Co-host
And you got the diaper off, so that's cool.
Bert
The diaper?
Unidentified Female Co-host
Yeah. Didn't you have to wear a diaper for your first three days on the couch?
Bert
You dreamt that.
Unidentified Male Commentator
Yeah, he just wears that. That's just at the bars. That's not. When he. That's not anything. That was, you know, drinking nights.
Bert
I have not peed standing up in seven days, though.
Unidentified Male Commentator 2
Save that.
Unidentified Female Host
Yeah,
Bert
that will take the dignity right out from underneath you.
Jeannie
Yeah.
Unidentified Male Commentator
So you're not more sympathetic to those that sit and pee?
Bert
No, it would definitely not be an option for me. It really takes the manhood right away from you.
Unidentified Female Co-host
That is. Yeah, that's awkward.
Bert
So that's where it's at, man. I mean, every day I'm gonna try to come in a little bit earlier and just try to get back into the swing of things.
Unidentified Female Co-host
So are you sleeping through the night?
Bert
No, no, not at all. It's uncomfortable because you have to keep your knee up.
Monya
So.
Bert
Yeah, I mean, it is what it is at this point.
Unidentified Male Commentator
Yeah, man.
Unidentified Female Host
What's the countdown till this is done?
Bert
They said four weeks in the brace or six weeks in the brace, depending on how it goes, I mean, on crutches, and then another four weeks in the brace. I can't put any pressure on it whatsoever.
Unidentified Female Host
Whoa.
Bert
Yeah.
Unidentified Female Co-host
Well, for whatever reason, everybody's calling up not to say welcome back, but to make you feel better about the injury you have.
Bert
Oh, good.
Unidentified Female Host
Okay.
Unidentified Female Co-host
Wendy, you may want to go for a walk.
Bert
Oh, these are fun.
Unidentified Male Commentator
Okay.
Unidentified Female Co-host
Hey, Jeannie.
Jeannie
Good morning, everyone.
Unidentified Female Co-host
What's going on?
Jeannie
Just want to tell Bert that my son had the same injury from playing football, except his kneecap also popped in half. So not only did he have that.
Unidentified Female Host
Popped in half.
Unidentified Male Commentator
Wow. Thanks for repeating. Wow.
Unidentified Female Co-host
Hey, Brittany, what's going on?
Jeannie
Oh, not much. Just wanted to let you know, if you want to do lightweight leg extension and leg curls on a machine, it'll totally get your hamstrings and your quads stronger and you'll recover a lot quicker.
Bert
Yeah, I've already gone to physical therapy a couple of times. They don't want you laying up on this thing at all. In fact, my physical therapist wanted me in the day after the surgery, and I said I'll wait till Monday. So I've seen him twice already, but they're already working on it.
Unidentified Female Co-host
Who are you going to hate more, Dolvett or your physical therapist?
Bert
It will be Mark Wentworth. My physical therapist.
Jeannie
Okay.
Unidentified Male Commentator
First and last name.
Bert
I already refer to him as Diablo to my w. Uh.
Unidentified Female Host
Oh.
Unidentified Female Co-host
Bert famously hates any trainer he has because they try to hurt him.
Jeannie
Right.
Unidentified Female Co-host
Knowing that's their job. Right?
Bert
Yeah.
Unidentified Female Co-host
No pain, no gain. Hey, Moyne, is Monya, right? That's what I was about to say.
Monya
Yeah, exactly. Well, I just wanted to say I think either Jen or Melissa asked what you can do to prevent from this. Really? Nothing. When I was like, 17, 18, within a matter of a year and a half, I had both of my meniscus ripped, like Bert was saying. And I wasn't playing any football. In fact, one time I tried to get on like a step ladder, try to take two steps at the same time. It ripped. The second time, I was just turning to the left and it ripped. So it was not even sports. It was just regular day to day things. And I don't think you can do anything. Either it rips or it doesn't.
Bert
Yeah, there are some people that are just more prone to this kind of thing than other people are.
Unidentified Male Commentator
Well, it's good to know that we're all together in this, that we all can rip our meniscus too, you know,
Unidentified Female Traveler
it's been such a hassle.
Unidentified Female Co-host
Everybody rip your meniscus.
Bert
It's been such a hassle just hobbling on one leg that I remember the other day when I was working in Washington D.C. the host of the show, his wife went out and tried inline skating one day with their kids. And the very first time she went out, she fell backwards and she busted both legs and both wrists.
Unidentified Female Host
Oh God.
Bert
So for six months she couldn't do anything and that was her very first time trying inline skating. So one leg is nothing compared to that. I mean, she literally. They had to bring a nurse in to wipe her butt to do everything.
Unidentified Female Host
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Unidentified Male Commentator
I'd like to wipe my own butt from now on.
Unidentified Female Host
Save that horrible.
Unidentified Female Co-host
Well, anyways, good to have you back. Even if it's only for half the show. It's good that you're starting to hobble every day.
Bert
Hopefully a little earlier and then I'll be able to be back in the driver's seat. Hey, the bird show.
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Release Date: July 3, 2026
Host & Cast: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, and the Bert Show crew
In this candid and lighthearted roundtable episode, Bert returns to discuss his recent knee surgery in detail. The Bert Show team explores the story behind Bert’s injury, his (painful and awkward) recovery, and the impact on his daily life—sprinkled with the show’s trademark humor and camaraderie. Listeners also phone in with their own injury tales, advice, and sympathy, making for a relatable and sometimes hilarious look at the hazards of midlife sports adventures.
“I’ll be in on Monday. I might be a little late. And by a little late, he meant seven days.” [01:21]
“If I started curling today, I could be the best in the United States in five days—because there’s only three people playing.” [04:15, Bert]
“I already refer to him as Diablo to my w… uh.” [07:33, Bert]
“The host of the show, his wife went out inline skating one day… she fell backwards and she busted both legs and both wrists… had to bring a nurse in to wipe her butt…” [08:39]
The episode mixes practical, relatable advice with the show’s classic banter—poking fun at Bert’s situation but also offering genuine sympathy. Listeners are reminded that life’s everyday choices (especially midlife sports) come with new risks but also plenty of good stories. The community feel of the show shines, with callers chiming in to commiserate, advise, and laugh together. Bert’s honesty about pain, frustration, and the awkward realities of recovery adds humor and heart to his ordeal.