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Host Chris
The Bird show all right, so this all started as a first date Friday.
Host Dana
Yeah, on first date Friday. We talk to people on Friday who have a big date that they're excited about coming up. Over the weekend we get the details of what they expect from the date and then on Monday we usually check back in with them to see if it met their expectations. So last Friday we did Just that. And we talked to Eric, who said that he was gonna go out over the weekend with his former stepsister. Apparently the story is that his parent and her parent married years ago when they were like 8 and 10 years old. They grew up together in the same home. And then those parents divorced. And he ran into her recently, found that she was attractive, he was attracted to her and asked her out on a date. Date. He let her know, look, I'm asking you out on an official date.
Ad Voice (Adam Grant)
And.
Host Dana
And she accepted.
Jeff
He actually said the sentence. This isn't a brother sister thing.
Host Chris
Yeah. You know what probably makes more sense? Let me play like 90 seconds of the first phone call that we took from this guy.
Eric
I'm 28 years old. My parents divorced when I was real young. My dad remarried a woman who had daughters. And my dad and this woman, they then got divorced. And so I'm going on a date.
Ad Voice (Hers)
With your stepsister?
Eric
Former stepsister.
Host Chris
Oh, dude, you can't.
Eric
I hadn't seen her in eight years. And we connected for lunch. My dad had her email address. She had just moved back into Atlanta. I'd been here. She went to California for school. And my dad said she was back in town. I shot her an email and went out for lunch. And she was smoking hot. So I decided, what the hell, I'll ask her out to dinner. You know, I don't ever have to see her again. So I said, you know, why don't.
Host Jeff
We.
Eric
Get some dinner Saturday night if you want to. You know, not a brother and sister thing. And she said she'd love to go out.
Host Chris
Dude, that is gonna be so weird for you, like if you kiss her or more. Or more.
Eric
I hear you. But I don't know. I mean, I. It. It could be. It could be kind of. It could. It could feel a little weird for that reason. But I guess, you know, I'll play it by ear.
Host Chris
Alright, so maybe you early morning Birch show listeners have more sense to you than the later Birch show listeners. Because after we played the following call from yesterday, we got a ton of calls saying, leave the guy alone. Not doing anything wrong at all. So we followed up with them yesterday to find out. This is what happened.
Caller/Hater
Eric.
Host Jeff
Good morning.
Host Chris
You are on the Burt Show. How are you, sir?
Eric
Hello.
Host Chris
We are reserving judgment until you tell us exactly what happened. Like, was it weird when you picked her up? Did you guys meet out? I mean, was it awkward the entire time?
Eric
No, not at all. Not at all. I got together with her after work. I hung out in my apartment in Midtown. We had a couple of drinks. There was a party in my apartment complex a couple doors down. We went down there. Everybody liked her. It was totally cool. I mean, I continued to learn more about her. I like her even more. You know, I never knew her really. I never really knew her as a person. I mean, I lived with her, but she was my stepsister when I was living with her, you know. But I got a chance to get to know her a lot better.
Caller/Hater
Did you introduce her to people as your sister?
Eric
No, no, I.
Host Jeff
People.
Eric
I sort of clued people in on the background and, you know, I was sort of bouncing it off people beforehand. But at the time, it was just like, you know, they seemed open to it.
Host Chris
You realize you were the most anticipated guest of the night.
Eric
I'm sure they couldn't wait for you.
Host Chris
To walk through the door and see what she looked like.
Caller/Hater
Yeah.
Eric
Yeah.
Host Chris
So you guys go have drinks, you hang at your place, you go to a couple of parties, and you are attracted to her.
Eric
Totally. Yeah. Yeah. We're. We're. Well, we. We. I mean, in terms of the date. We then went back to my place, hung out a little bit more and decided in the end to see each other again on Thursday. So we're going out again on Thursday.
Host Chris
I gotta ask you the obvious question. Did you kiss her goodnight?
Eric
I can't kiss and tell, man.
Host Chris
You kissed her on the lips, didn't you?
Eric
I can't kiss and tell. I enjoyed myself way too much to kiss and tell after this. Normally I would, but this seems like a special thing, you know, it's family.
Host Chris
Trying to be respectful, you know?
Jeff
Gotta respect the family. If it was just a stranger, sure, we did it, but, I mean, considering she's my sister and all. Respect her.
Caller/Hater
I gotta be honest with you. I'm ready to vomit. Like, I can't believe you're able to change the way you looked at this girl as your little sister all growing up, and now she's a sexual object for you. To me, I think you're really demented and you should end up on Maury Povich.
Jeff
Why?
Caller/Hater
I think it's demented, and I think it's sick. And I think it's bizarre and weird and incestual and creepy, and I think you need to see somebody seriously.
Eric
Well, you're entitled to your opinion. I. You know, the people. Most of the people that I talked to, it seemed like they were kind of. They were, like, slightly weirded out by it, but that they were. They were open to it in terms of, you know, like you said, you were saying people sending emails and were like, you know, this is not incest. I mean, it's not incest. I'm not biologically related to her, so.
Host Chris
Well, let me give you an example of one of those emails actually, because the calls are now coming in and I'm guessing this is from another dude. Hey, Chris. Yeah, go ahead.
Eric
Yeah, I want to support him. I think that just because they grew up together and they have no blood relation that there's really nothing wrong with it. I mean, it's just like you grew up with a childhood friend, so, you know, you guys know everything about each other. There's no big deal to it if you're not blood related, whether it's your sister or your brother. It's just like the girl next door.
Host Chris
Maybe age wise you're talking, but I mean, they lived under the same roof, they grew up together, watch each other sort of mature together, that, yeah, something ain't right.
Jeff
It's something right because you just. It doesn't think because the word is stepsister. But you know, I mean, the only. Honestly, the only problem I can see with it because you aren't blood related, that it's going to be difficult if you guys ever get married, that the church will have no center aisle because you don't need two sides. So when you come in, are you, you know, with the groom's family or the bride's family? You just say yes.
Host Dana
And what's the family?
Ad Voice (Adam Grant)
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Host Chris
Have you even told us if any of the other family members know that you guys went out over the weekend?
Eric
No, they. Not, not that I know of. I don't think anybody knows at this point.
Host Dana
When are you gonna tell them?
Eric
I think I'll wait and see if it develops a little bit.
Host Dana
Why? I mean, is there a problem with telling them?
Eric
I just, I don't want to get. I don't want to get a bunch of the garbage in my head about it, you know?
Host Chris
Yeah. We're gonna have to follow your storyline for a while.
Jeff
You're aware that if you guys have kids, you'll be the kids uncle and dad?
Host Chris
No, because they're not really step uncle.
Jeff
She will be her kids grapple.
Host Chris
Yeah, I don't think technically that. Yeah, that's true. Because they're not ex, ex step uncle, Ex step uncle.
Host Dana
But they have pictures together when they grew up, like, you know, probably hanging out in the house when they were 8, 9, 10 years old. So if they do have. The kids will have plenty of. How did y' all meet? Well, that's when our parents married. And that's the house we moved into together when we were kids.
Jeff
I think in West Virginia. They'll give you a free piece of land.
Eric
Oh, yeah.
Host Chris
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Caller Jen
Good morning.
Host Chris
How's it going? All right. What's up?
Caller Jen
What's this guy's name?
Host Chris
This is Eric.
Host Dana
Eric.
Caller Jen
Eric, There is nothing wrong with you going out with her at all. Nothing. It's not like she's your cousin. It's not like y' all are half sister and brother. There's nothing wrong with it. So everybody's making a big deal about it. Don't even get a bunch of crap in your mind because there's nothing wrong with what you're doing.
Host Chris
Let me guess.
Caller/Hater
Are you married to somebody? That used to be a step.
Caller Jen
You shouldn't run and tell your family anything anyways. Because usually people don't know who you're dating or what you're up to until you start having feelings for somebody in the first place.
Host Chris
Jen has a question for you.
Caller/Hater
Did you ever date a step sibling?
Caller Jen
I never had any. My mom had five children and married someone that didn't have any kids.
Host Chris
Okay, you just.
Caller Jen
I mean, there. If there was blood relation or if it was like they shared the same father or the same mother, then I can see you saying it's sick and twisted and incestual. But that's pretty much an insult to someone who has no blood relation to this person whatsoever.
Caller/Hater
I guess it's an insult because they grew up in the same house together. And that's the way I feel about it. I mean, I just think that it's disgusting and it is incestual. I don't care if there's blood relation or not. They were a family unit, like brother and sister. And now he's sexually attracted to her blood or not.
Ad Voice (Adam Grant)
Gross.
Jeff
What's wrong with it, though, Eric?
Caller Jen
You can just keep doing what you're doing because you're not in the wrong at all.
Jeff
They didn't control that they lived in the same house.
Caller/Hater
I just think it's disgusting.
Host Chris
Hello. Jackie's gonna take it one step further. Hey, Jackie.
Caller/Hater
Hey.
Caller Jen
I don't think there's anything wrong with it. The first person I ever slept with was my ex stepbrother. After my parents had already gotten divorced. But they had been married for three years.
Ad Voice (Adam Grant)
Wow.
Caller Jen
And we were older. I mean, we didn't grow up together. I mean, I was 14, 15, 16. And then they got divorced. And when I was 17 is when we got together.
Host Chris
Jen, you and I are in the minority here. Most are calling up, saying, there's nothing wrong with this. To me, it's just icky, man. You slept with your stepbrother. The first guy you ever slept with was your stepbrother, Jackie.
Caller Jen
Yeah, but it was after our parents had already gotten divorced.
Host Chris
How long had y' all lived under the same roof?
Caller Jen
We never lived under the same roof. He lived with his mother, and I lived with his father and my mother.
Jeff
Okay, would that have been different for you, Jen? Like, let's say that Eric and the girl grew up in separate houses.
Caller/Hater
Well, I think her story. Her story's a little bit different because they didn't meet until they were already teenagers, and they never lived in the same household. So, yes, it makes it different. Still creepy. But not as creepy as Eric.
Host Chris
Good morning, Cindy. You're on the Birch Show.
Caller Jen
Hey. I grew up with a girl who was dating a guy. They introduced their parents. The parents got married, and they were not allowed to date anymore. When they got old enough, they started dating and got married. So mom and dad were married. And stepbrother. Stepsister married.
Host Chris
All right, so you're not in a boat by yourself. That's for sure, Eric. I mean, apparently this happens more than I had ever anticipated.
Eric
Yeah, really?
Host Chris
Well, I.
Eric
People calling it.
Host Chris
I definitely. Hold on a sec. I just want to take a call just to hear one person from the other side. Jen and I. Good morning, Caitlin.
Caller Jen
Yeah, I absolutely cannot believe that people are calling in agreeing with him. Jen, I am so with you on this. I think it's completely disgusting. He might as well move to Alabama and marry her. I mean, it's not Tennessee. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Jeff
Or Tennessee, West Virginia, Alabama, Kentucky, anywhere.
Host Chris
Y' all do realize that people in Alabama and West Virginia make Georgia jokes, right?
Caller/Hater
Of course.
Host Chris
Okay. Yeah.
Caller Jen
Well, I mean, now they definitely can make jokes about us with this.
Host Chris
Yeah, this didn't help.
Caller/Hater
Yeah.
Eric
This is so different. This is so different from a kissing cousins thing.
Jeff
And there's like, six years apart between the time their parents got divorced and today.
Host Chris
There's so many women out there.
Jeff
They're different people.
Caller/Hater
You have step siblings, Jeff.
Jeff
You can't control love.
Caller/Hater
Would you ever date one of them?
Jeff
Well.
Eric
No.
Host Chris
Why not?
Jeff
Because they're both guys.
Caller/Hater
If there was a woman and she happened to be hot, would you date her? Be honest.
Jeff
Yeah, you gotta get it where you can.
Host Chris
People save that such an ador. Jen, we are in the far minority. Are you telling Me calling up, saying, there's nothing wrong with this. I still haven't heard a good.
Caller/Hater
I think it's because we came. I came so strong and we came so strong against it that people always have to call up to. I cannot believe this is the majority. I cannot.
Jeff
As close as you are to your brother, you've never fantasized about making love to him.
Caller/Hater
You are sick.
Jeff
Just not even going all the way, but just letting your brother go up your shirt.
Caller/Hater
Oh, my gosh. You are so disgusting.
Ad Voice (Adam Grant)
Just.
Jeff
You've never French kissed, like on the holidays.
Caller/Hater
Oh, my God.
Host Dana
Only child would say that.
Caller Jen
Crap.
Caller/Hater
Sick.
Jeff
I'm just asking. You guys are a close family.
Caller/Hater
Was it okay when your stepbrothers touched you when you were little?
Jeff
I don't remember that.
Eric
I blocked out everything.
Caller/Hater
You liked it.
Jeff
I blocked out everything before age 8.
Host Chris
So I don't know. Hey, Eric, we are definitely going to check in with you over the next couple of weeks to see how things are progressing with your sister.
Eric
Sounds great, man.
Host Chris
All right, dude.
Eric
See my sister.
Jeff
Seal the deal, bro.
Eric
Get her done.
Host Chris
See you, man.
Eric
See you, man. The first show.
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Episode: Vault: Eric's Date with Step-Sister
Date: November 4, 2025
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A comedic and spirited debate unfolds as The Bert Show team and their listeners react to Eric’s surprising "First Date Friday" update: he went on a romantic date with his former stepsister. The episode dives deep into the nuances, ethics, stigma, and real-life stories around dating a former step-sibling, sparking laughter, discomfort, and strong opinions.
This episode centers on Eric, who, after reconnecting with his former stepsister years after their parents divorced, decides to ask her on a date. The cast revisits Eric’s call from the previous week, checks in post-date, and fields listener calls ranging from supportive to appalled. The frank, funny, and very real conversation explores where the lines of family, romance, and taboos are drawn—especially when there's no blood relation.
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The Bert Show fearlessly dives into a divisive subject, balancing humor and real talk with empathy for Eric’s unique dating scenario. The episode exposes listeners’ divided opinions, ranging from moral outrage to practical indifference, punctuated by real-life anecdotes and a Southern stereotype or two. The team promises future follow-ups as Eric and his former stepsister explore their unexpected romance, keeping listeners hooked for the next twist.