Vault: Female Interns VS Male Interns

Summary

The Bert Show: "Vault: Female Interns VS Male Interns"

Date: August 12, 2026
Main Cast: Bert (Host), Jen (Intern Coordinator), Melissa (News Reporter), Linda (Entertainment Reporter), Brandon (Male Intern), Lauren (Intern)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into a lighthearted but candid debate about the differences observed between female and male interns at The Bert Show. Jen, the long-time intern coordinator, shares her eight-year perspective on intern behaviors and trends related to work ethic, responsibility, and what changes when interns start getting on-air opportunities. The cast welcomes intern Brandon into the fray to discuss and defend his cohort, culminating in a mix of teasing, workplace observations, and a listener's call that deepens the discussion. The tone throughout is playful, authentic, and honest—a signature of The Bert Show.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

The Intern Gender Divide: Setting the Stage

• [00:33-01:12] Jen describes her role and the crucial behind-the-scenes work interns perform. She notes a pattern that male interns, after getting some airtime, start slacking on previously important off-air tasks.
  • "This is just a theory and y'all can call up, tell me I'm wrong, but... there is a typical trend that happened with the guy interns when they come to the show." — Jen (01:07)
  • Highlight: Carl, a former male intern, is an exception—he graduated to producer.

The On-Air Celebrity Effect

• [01:45-03:14] Jen elaborates that once male interns get the "taste" of being on-air, their commitment to other responsibilities fades, unlike their female counterparts.
  • "All of their off air responsibilities are not nearly as important as their on air persona... And I found with the girl interns, that doesn't happen." — Jen (03:14)
  • Bert summarizes: "Dudes are busting butt, then they get on the air and then their workload is like, cut in 50%. Or at least their attitude is cut 50%?" (03:02)

Putting Brandon in the Hot Seat

• [03:44-05:27] Intern Brandon is called in to discuss whether he fits the trend. He defends himself, citing his technical help with early prep, but a fellow intern, Lauren, playfully disputes his version of events.
  • "I was printing everything and as soon as the printer broke, Brandon was like, oh, oh, it's your last day, get up, let me do it, let me do it." — Lauren (05:12)
  • The cast teases Brandon and each other about who handles which morning duties.

Detailed Intern Dynamics & Scheduling Challenges

• [05:28-07:41] Linda explains the complexities of ensuring news and entertainment prepping is completed properly, emphasizing observed differences between male and female intern reliability.
  • "I have found that... when men are on the staff, that the prep is not there on time... On days that Brandon's not here, the printer's not broken. And I get it by 5:10, 5:15." — Linda (06:26)
• Brandon acknowledges the early schedule grind is harder than anticipated, providing insight into the intern lifestyle.

Broader Gender Work Ethic Debate

• [09:08-10:38] Bert broadens the discussion: "As a general rule, then... you're saying that young women have a better work ethic than young men?"
  • Both Jen and Linda immediately answer: "Yes." (09:21)
  • Brandon disputes this, insisting his work is just less visible, not inferior.

Listener Perspective: Representation and Responsibility

• [10:46–11:36] A listener, Mark, calls in to express disappointment in Brandon, making a point about the importance of Black men working twice as hard for recognition.
  • "We gotta work twice as hard to be seen as half as good. Brandon, you gotta represent, dude. You can't be slacking off, man. Come on, man." — Mark, Caller (11:13)
  • This brings an intersectional layer to the discussion, with the team acknowledging Carl, a Black man, as the only intern to be hired full-time from the program.

Final Reflections on Gender, Work Ethic, and Office Culture

• [11:42-12:09] Jen and Lauren reinforce the central observation: the female interns tend to show more consistent work ethic and have progressed into paid roles.
• The segment closes with jokes and playful banter about office dynamics and the challenges of firing women in the modern workplace.
  • "Women do work harder. Look around the office. Women do work harder. Look at all the interns... Look at all the interns that have went from intern to job." — Lauren (11:48)

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Jen on male interns’ post-airtime shift:
  "Their behavior on all of the responsibilities off the air completely changes. It's like somehow they've gotten what they want... and they start to slack on those responsibilities a little bit faster and more predictably than the girls interns ever do." (02:12)
• Lauren on sharing credit:
  "I just wanna say I did get here first and I was printing everything and as soon as the printer broke, Brandon was like, oh, oh, it's your last day, get up, let me do it, let me do it." (05:12)
• Linda on reliability:
  "When men are on the staff, that the prep is not there on time... On days that Brandon's not here, the printer's not broken. And I get it by 5, 10, 5 15." (06:26)
• Bert summarizing:
  "As a general rule, then... you're saying that young women have a better work ethic than young men?" (09:12)
• Jen’s blunt confirmation:
  "Yes." (09:21)
• Listener Mark, adding depth:
  "We gotta work twice as hard to be seen as half as good. Brandon, you gotta represent, dude." (11:13)
• Lauren on workplace progress:
  "Women do work harder. Look around the office. Women do work harder. Look at all the interns just in this office alone that have went from intern to job..." (11:48)

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Key Segment Timestamps

• 01:07 – Jen introduces her intern gender theory
• 03:02 – Bert summarizes Jen’s perspective
• 05:12 – Lauren calls out Brandon's version of the print room saga
• 06:26 – Linda details prep time reliability differences
• 09:12 – Bert escalates to a global "gender work ethic" question
• 11:13 – Listener Mark delivers a serious challenge to Brandon
• 11:48 – Lauren lists female intern success stories

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Overall Tone

The episode is full of playful but candid banter. The team isn’t afraid to poke fun at each other, challenge generational and gender assumptions, and get a little serious about the realities of early-morning radio and what it takes to stand out. The conversation oscillates between teasing and real talk, blending humor with honest workplace dynamics.

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Conclusion

"Vault: Female Interns VS Male Interns" offers The Bert Show’s signature mix of humor and authenticity while raising real questions about gender, motivation, and career progress in the radio world. It's a relatable—and entertaining—look behind the scenes, highlighting both generational and cultural perspectives on work ethic and professional growth.

Transcript

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[Show Host (Bert)]

The Birch Show One of my jobs

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

at the Birch show is to coordinate our intern staff. So our interns are current college students who are earning credit for working with us and they do a great job and they do a lot of important things for us behind the scenes that you guys will never hear. But the show would not run properly without them. So big ups to the Birch. Oftentimes they recycle through semesters. Sometimes they'll stay a couple of different semesters. We, we have a new intern starting today for the summer semester. And I have noticed we actually have

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

more interns in here than we have us.

[Linda (Entertainment Reporter)]

And that's true.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

I gotta be honest with you, Linda.

[Linda (Entertainment Reporter)]

I feel like we're about to give

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

a lecture to a class. One thing I have noticed is a trend amongst interns and I've been doing this for about eight years. So this is eight years of my personal research. And that is that there is a typical trend that happened with the guy interns when they come to the show.

[Show Host (Bert)]

Here we go.

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

And this is just a theory and y' all can call up, tell me I'm wrong, but this is a theory over my experience with working with the bird show and with the guy interns specifically who come to work because typically the way that it has gone. And I will say Carl's an exception to the rule.

[Show Host (Bert)]

Maybe the only one he's graduated into producership.

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

Yes, he is producer Carl now. But is that once the. They have a lot of things, responsibilities to do off the air, typing things and sending stuff for the website and doing mundane tasks, spell checking and printing the prep and getting the studio ready for the show and all these different things.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

Washing Jen, like cleaning her and to

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

go to her house like a cat.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

Yeah. And grooming her hair, putting her makeup on her, brushing Melissa's teeth.

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

Right, right.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

Stuff like that.

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

They've got mundane tasks to do, but really important ones that if they don't get accomplished, the show doesn't run as well and then sort of as like a. A next level once They've got those things mastered is we ask the interns to join us on the air. And you've heard all of our interns through the years join us and help us with content and that sort of thing. And I've noticed that the guys, once they get on the air, their behavior on all of the responsibilities off the air completely changes. It's like somehow they've gotten what they want and all the rest of the responsibilities don't mean anything anymore. And they start to slack on those responsibilities a little bit faster and certainly more predictably than the girls interns ever do. I mean, they just, they start falling off on some of that mundane stuff.

[Show Host (Bert)]

So the theory here for Jen as the intern coordinator is dudes are busting butt, then they get on the air and then their workload is like, cut in 50%. Or at least their attitude is cut 50%?

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

Yeah. All of a sudden, all of their off air responsibilities are not nearly as important as their on air Persona and that sort of thing. It's like they get sort of a touch of this on air celebrity, or maybe they go out to a Q100 event and somebody's like, oh, I heard you on the radio. And they have listeners who know who they are. And then all of a sudden, their responsibilities behind the scenes start slacking off. And I found with the girl interns, that doesn't happen, that they are more buttoned up with their responsibilities all across the board, regardless of whether they get on the air or not.

[Show Host (Bert)]

All right, so let's get intern Brandon on. This is his Ike music. Anytime a new intern is introduced, we've got music that we play for. This is what he chose. Hi, Brandon. So you are continuing a trend, man. You had an opportunity to change the

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

brand, change the course of history.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

Well, just let me, just let me say first, Jen was talking about the male interns, and I'm the only male intern on staff. So I have a feeling if we can suspicion it's me.

[Show Host (Bert)]

Okay, well, she's just saying you're a part of a line of interns, that she's sensing the same pattern.

[Linda (Entertainment Reporter)]

She's whittling down the number of men that are on the Internet.

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

And I don't want to be that way. I want to have a balanced staff. I want to give, you know, opportunities to all students who are eligible to earn college credit. But it seems that this trend sort of repeats its pattern. And I hate to bring this up now because we have been gone for a week and a half. We were in la and that Kind of thing. But before that we talked about stepping it up on the off air stuff.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

Yeah. And I think that where you may not see how I step up is maybe in the morning at like 5 o' clock when we're trying to print stuff. This morning the computers didn't work. All of us tried. I was the one ultimately that got the computers fixed and all the prep, printing.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

Look at Melissa's face right now.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

I got a chick come up here.

[Lauren (Intern)]

Laurent.

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

Lauren.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

Troy.

[Show Host (Bert)]

This is Lauren's last. You're never gonna hear Lauren more cocky than right now. Cause this is her last day.

[Another Intern (Possibly Female)]

I just wanna say I did get here first and I was printing everything and as soon as the printer broke, Brandon was like, oh, oh, it's your last day, get up, let me do it, let me do it. So, so I was printing stuff, he just kind of took over and was like, oh no, you don't have to work today, it's your last day. So I'm just saying.

[Show Host (Bert)]

Now let me ask you this then, Lauren, on days that you're normally here with Brandon, is he here before you are and working or are you here first?

[Another Intern (Possibly Female)]

I usually don't intern with Brandon. Okay, So I don't know.

[Show Host (Bert)]

Melissa, what's that look?

[Linda (Entertainment Reporter)]

Well, I'm here before Jen and the print and for birth show listeners, the way it works is that Jen and I, Jen is the entertainment reporter, I'm the news reporter and we do research throughout the day, but in the morning we have things printed out for us in case something happened overnight or there's breaking news that we both need to report on on the show. So one of the interns jobs is to print out everything. They're talking about the prep, the prep to prep for the show is all these stories to be there ready for us. And there seemed to be a trend there for a little bit that I think because Jen was the intern coordinator, that the interns thought, well, the prep should be printed before the, before Jen does her entertainment buzz. But there's a portion of that prep service that is news that I need before 5:30. So we, you know, I have found that, and I'll say it, that when men are on the staff that the prep is not there on time. So I mean, today maybe the printer was broken, but somehow on days that Brandon's not here, the printer's not broken. And I get it by 5, 10,

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

5 15, who does a better job running to your respective houses and walking your dog?

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

Right, Right.

[Linda (Entertainment Reporter)]

So I'm just saying, I mean, you know, and again that's just. Yeah, I mean, but I don't feel

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

that that happened until Brandon was on the air and we're talking to him about relationships and Bert's like, oh, he's got all this great on air content. Let's put Brandon on the air all the time.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

No, I don't, I don't. I don't think it has anything to do with that.

[Lauren (Intern)]

It's.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

I will be totally honest. Like normally interns are here for two days. I've been here three days since I started. And it does wear on you a little bit that I never, I never expected it to be this tolling being the schedule. Yeah, three days.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

Me neither.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

So yeah, for a while it's like.

[Linda (Entertainment Reporter)]

But that's honest. I appreciate the.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

You know, come getting up it. And we. You guys were in la, so had a week essentially of not getting up and coming in. So this morning it was kind of. Oh my God. I used to have my morning. I'm used to having my mornings for this past week. So it does. It's an adjustment.

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

I thought you were supposed to be here last week.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

Oh, damn.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

I was here. No, I'm talking about not getting up and not. Well, we only had to come in Wednesday and Monday. Not. So it's been a week. Monday you guys were off.

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

Gotcha.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

So it's essentially been.

[Show Host (Bert)]

That was gonna be ugly, wasn't it?

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

No, I was.

[Linda (Entertainment Reporter)]

I think I peed in my seat a little bit.

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

No.

[Linda (Entertainment Reporter)]

Well, I think that the one thing about. About the internship at the Burt show that. That nobody thinks about until they have to do. And just like Brandon's talking about, I think that the word the hardest part of our job is the physical endurance of doing it.

[Show Host (Bert)]

It's just taxing People don't think about. To me when people say, how do you do it?

[Linda (Entertainment Reporter)]

How do you get up there?

[Show Host (Bert)]

This is not a hard job. To me. It's taxing more than anything else.

[Linda (Entertainment Reporter)]

It's like a marathon. We have to. I mean it's, you know. Yeah. And so I think the intern. I think the most important aspect of the internship is for the interns to realize. Can. Can I hang with this schedule?

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

Yeah. Can I hang with this physically fit bunch of people? Can I fit in with these super in shape superstars?

[Another Intern (Possibly Female)]

Right.

[Linda (Entertainment Reporter)]

Just the schedule shows you you can't be ph.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

Do you think it would be easier to do your internship if we got you an intern?

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

Yeah, that actually be awesome.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

You could get here early and better be a woman.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

Yeah, right?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

You may not work too Hard.

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[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

Make sure you don't hire a guy brand.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

Also, like, for a while, I was the only intern here one day a week. So it was doing a little bit extra on that one day, doing the job of everybody. And then. So it does take a lot. You hit a wall. So I want to take this away

[Show Host (Bert)]

from Brandon for a second and make it like a more global question.

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

Okay.

[Show Host (Bert)]

Like, as a general rule, then can. In what you've seen, you're saying that young women have a better work ethic than young men.

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

Yes.

[Linda (Entertainment Reporter)]

Yes.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

Oh, now here comes.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

I don't think that because. Just because I don't.

[Show Host (Bert)]

Just because you're lazy. No, we can't generalize all guys.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

I don't think.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

I don't think I'm lazy by any means. It's just because it doesn't look like I'm working harder than anybody else doesn't mean I'm not working harder. Like, I see.

[Show Host (Bert)]

Like, it didn't look like Michael Jordan was working as hard because he had so much talent.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

I mean, no, it's not like, it's not.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

LeBron makes it look so effortless.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

No, it's not anything with talent. It's just a lot of times, I think, especially being around the office a lot as I am, everybody expects a high energy Me. Everybody who sees me in the office always sees me as high energy, being wacky and crazy.

[Show Host (Bert)]

I think she's just looking for high quality.

[Linda (Entertainment Reporter)]

I just want my prep on time.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

Melissa's like, can you just run that Xerox machine real good?

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

Like Bert said, it's not necessarily necessarily about Brandon. It's not about you. I mean, we've had this conversation before. Yeah, this conversation came up before you, and we had male interns in the past and that sort of thing. I just feel like there's an attitude change once they get on the air, and so. And I would say that the. The female interns that have worked on the show over the last eight years have had a better work work ethic in general. Called in less. That kind of thing.

[Show Host (Bert)]

All right, if you want.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

I'm never called out, though, by the way.

[Show Host (Bert)]

What's that?

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

I've never called out, by the way.

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

I just said it's not about you.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

No, I just. I just want the.

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

Guess what? It's not about you.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

Oh, here we go.

[Linda (Entertainment Reporter)]

I just see it again.

[Show Host (Bert)]

1, 8, 7, 7, 5, 8, 8. Bert B E R T. Hey, Mark.

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[Show Host (Bert)]

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[Caller/Listener]

Hey, what's going on, y'? All? I Love the show.

[Show Host (Bert)]

Thank you.

[Caller/Listener]

Listen, Brandon, I'm always defending you, bro, but you know, you disappointed me, man. Like, as a black man, you know, and I just. I hate to bring it there, but you know, Brandon, like, we gotta work twice as hard to be seen as half as good. Brandon, you gotta represent, dude. You can't be slacking off, man. Come on, man. I mean, that's. Come on, bro.

[Show Host (Bert)]

Not only have you let down men, but you've let down black men everywhere.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

Yeah, I take the Otis for the race.

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

The one guy who came from our internship program got hired by the show. The only one ever is Carl, who is a black man.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

So, yes, Carl's representing.

[Caller/Listener]

I guarantee you never had that problem out of Carl because Carl knows what I'm talking about.

[Show Host (Bert)]

Carl, oh, opened up the door for you to slam shut.

[Jen (Intern Coordinator)]

It's really not about black or white. It's really about male or female, which

[Show Host (Bert)]

is what we're trying to get to here.

[Lauren (Intern)]

And women do work harder. Look around the office. Women do work harder. Look at all the interns just in this office alone that have went from intern to job. There's Jen Fallon, there's Tracy, there's Joanna. I mean, all started.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

And you are. You are assuming that every. All three of those people were good hires

[Linda (Entertainment Reporter)]

that they don't regret.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

Do you realize the paperwork that you have to do to fire a woman in this world? It's not like the old days where you could just walk up and grab her boobs and she leaves on her own. No, I've tried that with Melissa like six times. Then you gotta sit in human resources.

[Linda (Entertainment Reporter)]

Yeah, but I have to not enjoy it today.

[Melissa (News Reporter)]

I'm sorry. I was drinking orange juice or wine and next thing you know, Carter was on my lap again.

[Brandon (Male Intern)]

Hey, the bird show.

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