Vault: Full Show PT 2: Friday, December 26 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show – Vault: Full Show PT 2: Friday, December 26 [Vault]

Date: December 26, 2025
Podcast: The Bert Show
Host: Pionaire Podcasting
Notable Cast This Episode: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, and Ellen DeGeneres (guest)

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Bert Show delivers its signature blend of humor, authentic conversation, and community interaction. The morning show covers lighthearted relationship talk, a candid and inspiring interview with Ellen DeGeneres, and fiery listener debates about the Scott Peterson verdict. The show’s tone is real, witty, at times irreverent, and always welcoming to listener voices.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Is a Bad Kiss a Dealbreaker? (01:03–10:41)

• Segment Summary:
  The cast dives into a lively discussion: Is it justified to end a relationship after a single awful kiss? Listeners and hosts share personal stories and opinions.

• Notable Insights:

  • Chemistry in kissing matters to attraction and compatibility; many feel a truly bad kiss can kill romantic momentum early.
  • The possibility for “kissing improvement” gets debated—some believe people can improve, others are less optimistic.
  • Gender perspectives are shared, and lots of humor arises from frank stories of kissing disasters.

• Listener Stories:

  • Jennifer (Call-in, 04:50–06:12): Stayed with a bad kisser who improved over time after she subtly "showed him."
    • “I just kind of started taking control over the kissing situation… and it just got better.” (05:18, Jennifer)
  • Jonathan (06:47): Broke up with a woman due to a “spit overload” kiss that he found physically repulsive.
    • “…she had hawked up a lot of spit and rolled it into my mouth.” (07:00, Jonathan)
  • Mercedes (08:27): The kissing actually foreshadowed awkward sexual compatibility.
    • “He almost gave me a hysterectomy.” (08:54, Mercedes)
  • Cheryl (10:02): Dated a guy who’d lick her whole face.
    • “He would just take his tongue and just run it all over my face.” (10:25, Cheryl)

• Cast Quotes and Fun Moments:

  • “Have you ever had somebody… their tongue is so hard and forced down your mouth you just feel like you’re being abducted?” (05:51, Bert)
  • “It feels like Gene Simmons has got his tongue down your throat.” (06:12, Bert)
  • “I’m not a lollipop. Don’t lick my face.” (10:33, Co-host)

Memorable Moments:

• Comparing bad kissers to overeager poodles and horror stories about “the choker” or “lizard man” kissers.
• Discussion on whether celebrity on-screen kisses (Jude Law, Zach Braff) affect their perceived kissing prowess.

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2. Interview with Ellen DeGeneres (10:58–18:20)

• Segment Summary:
  Ellen DeGeneres joins for a heartfelt conversation about coming out on her sitcom, processing tough life changes with humor, and why her talk show draws big-name guests.

• Key Insights & Quotes:

  • On Coming Out on Her Sitcom:
    • “If I’m coming out, the character should come out… it made sense because she never dated on the show.” (11:28, Ellen)
    • Ellen emphasizes it was a personal and professional risk:
      “You can cancel me and have your company worth a billion dollars… but I may lose my career, although I didn’t think I would.” (11:40, Ellen)
  • Using Humor to Tackle Difficulty:
    • “Life is really good for me… and if I have anything to complain about, I try to slap myself… I like making people feel good.” (12:56, Ellen)
    • On her comedy serving both her and her audience:
      “If I can do that for an hour… you’re forgetting whatever’s going on in your life or in the world, which is a pretty scary place right now.” (13:10, Ellen)
  • On Acceptance and Growth:
    • “I’m exactly the same person. I think I’m smarter and stronger… I’ve grown a lot and learned a lot. The focus isn’t on [sexuality] anymore.” (14:11, Ellen)
  • On Her Talk Show’s Appeal:
    • “Everybody that comes on… says, of all the shows they do, they look forward to this one and they have fun… I want them to feel comfortable.” (17:16, Ellen)

• Fun Pop Culture Crossovers:

  • Discussion about her voice acting as Dory in Finding Nemo.
    • “A lot of kids are huge fans because of Dory.” (15:18, Ellen)
  • Ellen explains her talk show’s unique vibe and why music, spontaneity, and authenticity matter.

Memorable Listener Call:

• A listener thanks Ellen for helping her family accept her coming out, underlining Ellen’s cultural impact.
  (10:58, Listener)

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3. Scott Peterson Verdict & Listener Reactions (21:18–34:38)

• Segment Summary:
  The cast discusses Scott Peterson’s conviction and replays exchanges with a devoted Peterson supporter, Emily, who still maintains his innocence—even after the verdict. This segment is punctuated by heated, entertaining listener debates.

• Key Points:

  • Recap of the verdict: Scott Peterson found guilty of first-degree murder for Laci, and second-degree murder for their unborn child.
    • (21:24–22:05, Bert & Co-host)
  • The cast plays prior calls with Emily, a listener who’s written Peterson supportive letters and insists on his innocence based primarily on his looks and her intuition.
  • After Peterson is convicted, Emily refuses to accept the jury decision, blaming juror bias and conspiracy (26:08–27:01).
    • “The real killer’s still walking around free.” (26:08, Emily)
    • “A jury of his peers has said he is guilty, a jury had never been wrong in this country, huh?” (26:17, Bert & Emily)
  • Sceptical, frustrated listeners and the cast challenge Emily’s logic and point out contradictions in her reasoning.
    • “She was just going to spin everything that happened… to support her theory.” (24:11, Co-host)
    • “If I am totally, physically turned off, I cannot continue.” (07:54, Co-host, earlier in episode, but fits the combative tone)
  • Nicole, another passionate listener, calls in to challenge Emily, resulting in a boisterous exchange.
    • “You ain’t worried about no damn body but your horny ass hormone that can’t find a regular man!” (31:23, Nicole)
  • The cast reflects on the circular, conspiracy-leaning nature of Emily’s arguments and the emotional toll of high-profile cases on the public.

Memorable Moments:

• The producers promise Emily one final call after the verdict—a pledge fulfilled for pure drama.
• Emily’s unwavering support for Peterson, regardless of the verdict, draws both criticism and incredulous laughter from the cast and listeners.
• A lighthearted suggestion for a “boxing match” between Nicole and Emily closes the segment with typical show humor.
  • “Me and Emily in the ring, no holds barred. My money’s on you, Nicole.” (34:29, Cast)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

| Time | Speaker | Quote | |--------|------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:07 | Host | “Is it justified to break up with a guy or a woman based on a kiss that is so bad that you can't go on with the relationship?” | | 05:18 | Jennifer | “I just kind of started taking control over the kissing situation… and it just got better.” | | 06:12 | Host | “It feels like Gene Simmons has got his tongue down your throat.” | | 07:00 | Jonathan | “She had hawked up a lot of spit and rolled into my mouth.” | | 08:54 | Mercedes | “He almost gave me a hysterectomy.” | | 11:28 | Ellen DeGeneres | “If I’m coming out, the character should come out… it made sense…” | | 13:10 | Ellen DeGeneres | “If I can do that for an hour… you’re forgetting whatever’s going on in your life or in the world, which is a pretty scary place right now.” | | 14:11 | Ellen DeGeneres | “I’m exactly the same person. I think I’m smarter and stronger and I can look back on some things…” | | 17:16 | Ellen DeGeneres | “Everybody that comes on… says, of all the shows they do, they really look forward to this show and they have fun.” | | 21:24 | Host | “Scott Lee Peterson guilty of the crime of murder of Lacey Denise Peterson… and baby Connor Peterson.” | | 24:11 | Co-host | “She was just going to spin everything that happened… to support her theory.” | | 26:08 | Emily | “The real killer’s still walking around free.” | | 31:23 | Nicole | “You ain’t worried about no damn body but your horny ass hormone that can’t find a regular man!” | | 34:29 | Cast/Nicole | “Me and Emily in the ring, no holds barred. My money’s on you, Nicole.” |

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Bad Kiss Breakup Debate: 01:03–10:41
• Ellen DeGeneres Interview: 10:58–18:20
• Scott Peterson Verdict & Emily’s Calls: 21:18–34:38

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Takeaways

• The Bert Show’s signature real talk and listener participation provides both relatable relationship stories and a platform for strong opinions—hilariously and honestly.
• Ellen DeGeneres offers both wisdom and warmth on being authentic in the public eye, fighting for representation, and finding joy in making others feel good.
• The Scott Peterson segment encapsulates how divisive true crime cases can polarize communities and generate passionate debate, with the show serving as a safe space for all voices—even the most stubborn ones.
• Listeners are encouraged to laugh, relate, and occasionally cringe, as the cast (and its community) leans into the messiness of real life.

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Transcript

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[Radio Host/Commentator]

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[Ellen DeGeneres]

Get it?

[Burt Show Host]

The Birch show all right, I've got the first superficial question of the morning to ask you guys because last night we're at Twist and we're doing the CD release party and I am talking to somebody at the release party. Not gonna tell you guys who it is, but she says that she thought that she had met Mr. Right. This sort of goes along with the whole women's intuition thing where she dated a guy two or three times and they never kissed after the date. This has gone on for like a couple of weeks. They went on three dates and he just said, I'm a gentleman. I generally don't kiss on the first or second date, but when I know it's real, then I feel like getting a little more intimate. But at this point let's not kiss. He said those words or something like that on the first couple of days. So she is completely enamored with this guy. They have the same likes. The chemistry seems really good. All all arrows seem to be pointing to this is gonna work out pretty well. So like date number three or date number four? He's feeling comfortable enough with her that at the end of the date he makes the approach for the kiss and kisses her and is an awful, awful kisser. Terrible. She said it was just the most. I forget the words she used, but I think gross was in there. Wet was in There. Yeah, it was really sloppy. Was in. And it was just really uncomfortable. I mean, it was really uncomfortable. So she asks me last night, does that mean that he can't get any better at kissing? And is that an indication of him being really bad in other areas also? Because the way she was leaning last night was she was ready to break up with this guy because every guy that she had kissed before him that was a bad kisser was bad in other areas. You know what I'm saying?

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Burt Show Host]

So the question I'm asking you guys, is it justified to break up with a guy or a woman based on a kiss that is so bad that you can't go on with the relationship? 404-741-1005 I just think that it depends.

[Radio Host/Commentator]

On how much she likes this guy and how much room she wants to give him to improve. Because after the first kiss, maybe it was an awkward moment, maybe he could improve over the next couple of weeks. But I think if you've got several weeks of bad kisses, you kind of got to move on because. Yeah, I remember this happening one time when I was in college. I felt devoured by someone. Like, instead of kissing me, I think he ate my head.

[Burt Show Host]

Just my shoulders were showing. Like that subway commercial.

[Radio Host/Commentator]

Exactly like the subway commercial. I felt swallowed whole and, and thought, you know what? This is not really so good. And then, you know, gave it about a week and then it was like, okay, no, it was way too forceful and down your throat.

[Burt Show Host]

It was like, couldn't get past it. Because she said in other areas, like, great job. Seemed like a sensitive guy. The areas that she normally looks at for red flags were all white flags. Like she's. He's got a great relationship with his parents. Financially he's doing fine. But the kiss was so bad and so atrocious that she can't get over it and wants to break up with the guy based on one kiss.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

I, I know in the past I've said about when it comes to, you know, intimate relations that you can improve on that. But you're at that point of having intimacy and having communication kisses on the other. It's. It's difficult to. Because you're assuming over the next few weeks he's going to improve on his own because you're not really at the point that you can tell him he's a bad kisser if you only been out a couple times. But that would totally turn me off. And I do think that's an indication of his performance the rest of the way.

[Burt Show Host]

You do?

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

I do. And it would be only two or three or four dates into it. It would be hard for me to continue if the person was that bad of a kisser, if it turned. If it turned me off.

[Burt Show Host]

Okay. Good morning, Jennifer. You're on the Burt Show. Hello.

[Ellen DeGeneres]

Hey.

[Caller/Listener]

How are you guys doing today?

[Burt Show Host]

Thank you.

[Ellen DeGeneres]

Great.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, I was just gonna say that when me and my boyfriend first started dating, that he was a horrible kisser. Like, I almost broke up with him over it and stopped seeing him. He was just such a great guy in so many other areas that I ended up. Okay, you know, let me give it a chance. Let me give it a chance. And finally things just got better and we're still together five months later.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

So how did things get better? Like, did you say something to him?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, I thought about it. I even approached a couple of friends who I was like, man, he just stinks at kissing. And, you know, I don't want to get too far into it, and, you know, it'd be worse. And finally I just kind of started taking control over the kissing situation as far as, like, when we were kissing. Trying to show him, in a sense, but not. Not insult him, of course, but, you know. And eventually it got better. And then as we got comfortable, I was like, oh, you know, I like it this way. Over this way. And it just.

[Ellen DeGeneres]

It's gotten better.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

And was he a slobberer?

[Ellen DeGeneres]

Yes.

[Burt Show Host]

Ok. Have you ever. I'm not exactly sure how to phrase this, but that is sounding really nasty this early in the morning, but have you ever had somebody like, God, they just tense up so much that. That their. Their tongue is so hard and forced down your mouth that you just feel like you're totally being abducted?

[Radio Host/Commentator]

Yes.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

The choker.

[Burt Show Host]

The choker. It feels like Gene Simmons has got his tongue down your throat.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Radio Host/Commentator]

It's hard to get for some reason. Remember when your friend Aaron came on with us and was dating the A list celebrity and then we told everybody it was Owen Wilson? For some reason, I imagine him to be the crazy tongue guy.

[Burt Show Host]

The bad kissing guy.

[Radio Host/Commentator]

Yeah, the bad kissing guy. For some reason.

[Burt Show Host]

That's only because I told you the story off the air that I couldn't tell on the air about Owen Wilson.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Maybe curiosity has sparked up that will.

[Burt Show Host]

Totally change your opinion of that guy. Good morning, Jonathan. You're on the Burt Show. Hi.

[Ellen DeGeneres]

Hi.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes, I broke up with a girl because she was a terrible kisser.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Well, I. Yeah, I'm always curious about details, like what makes a bad kiss. Yeah. Why was she a bad kisser?

[Caller/Listener]

Okay, well, it started out where, you know, she would. We were just kind of having a phone conversation and, you know, of course, you know, you'd lead up into meeting that person. And when we first met, we went out on the first date, and that night I kissed her. And it was like she had hawked up a lot of spit and rolled into my mouth.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, gross.

[Caller/Listener]

So particularly after that, it didn't matter how great her personality was. Just the idea of kissing this person kind of made me do the dry he thing.

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[Ellen DeGeneres]

Yeah.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

I mean, because when people say, well, they're a great person, they have a great job, they have a great personality, well, then, I mean, to me, attraction is so important that if I'm so turned off by them, then they become a friend. They're my friend with a great job and a friend with a great personality. But if there is no if, I am totally, physically turned off, I cannot continue.

[Burt Show Host]

I remember the very first time I tried the whole French kiss thing. It was a game of spin the bottle, and there were a whole bunch of friends around and stuff. And I knew what the concept of it was, but I had never put it in practice before. And I just remember opening up my mouth so wide like you could have put a seven pound bag of cement in my mouth. Everybody's done that.

[Radio Announcer/Promoter]

I did that, too.

[Burt Show Host]

And, like, everybody looking at me was like, jaws, put that thing away, dude. I was like, you know, watching Charlie Brown, they yell, you can only see the uvula just dangling in the back. Good morning, Mercedes, here on the Burt Show.

[Caller/Listener]

Hi. Yes, I did break up with someone over a kiss. He was a rough kisser. And. Well, no, it wasn't even over a kiss. I put that to the side. I'm like, okay, maybe this is just a guy who just doesn't know how to kiss. And it eventually led up to something else. And I swear, you know, we're on the radio, so I'm gonna make it really pg. He almost gave me a hysterectomy.

[Burt Show Host]

It was well said.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, man.

[Burt Show Host]

Thank you.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Now, have you ever. Have you ever watched somebody in a film and thought like, a celebrity is a bad kisser on screen and thought differently of them because I have an example.

[Burt Show Host]

Yeah. When we all watched Garden State together, those kisses between Zach Braff and Natalie Portman looked really, really.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

I think Jude Law looks like he's a bad kisser. Only reason I say that is there's this new movie out that he. That's coming out with him and Julia Roberts. And I believe Natalie Portman's in that one as well.

[Burt Show Host]

I've seen that.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

And he kisses. Is he kissing Julia Roberts in that commercial? And he grabs the crown of her head. Like he. I don't know.

[Burt Show Host]

Didn't grab her by, like, the cheek.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

No, not delicately in the cheek or the nape of her neck or anything cool like that. I mean, like the crown of her head. I don't know. You just gotta watch this film. He looks like a very bad kisser. Unfortunately, I think differently.

[Radio Host/Commentator]

He looks like lizard man with really dry, like really dry lips that, like, don't really move a whole lot.

[Caller/Listener]

They just stare at her.

[Burt Show Host]

Hey, Cheryl. Good morning. You're on the Burt show on all the hits. Q100.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, I used to date this guy in college and he was really, you know, great in other areas and stuff. But whenever he kissed me, we would start kissing and then he would start licking me all over my face.

[Radio Host/Commentator]

No.

[Burt Show Host]

Who does that? Are you licking you?

[Caller/Listener]

That was too much. He had to go, like licking you.

[Burt Show Host]

On the cheeks and the eyes and stuff.

[Caller/Listener]

The cheeks. I mean, he would just take his tongue and just run it all over my face.

[Burt Show Host]

Dude, what is that?

[Caller/Listener]

And it was so nasty.

[Ellen DeGeneres]

I just.

[Caller/Listener]

I couldn't take it.

[Burt Show Host]

What was that? Like an overeager poodle?

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

I'm not a lollipop. Don't lick my face.

[Burt Show Host]

I couldn't even stand when my mom used to lick her finger, her thumb, and I put that on my face.

[Ellen DeGeneres]

Nasty.

[Burt Show Host]

So I guess if you're dating a bad kisser, it's over. But bye. Move on. Just move on. That's a lot of pressure, man.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Get it?

[Burt Show Host]

The Burt Show. It's the Burt show on all the hits. Q100 with Ellen DeGeneres comes on 5 o' clock on CBS. 46.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

You know, hey, Ellen, it's Melissa and I here in Atlanta. I am an out lesbian on this radio station and I want to say thank you for coming out on that show because your show actually was what my family watched in order to learn how to accept me, because about that time I was coming out. So I do want to say thank you for that. But I'm also curious, how much of an effort did it take or was it a struggle to get the network to allow you to change the course of the storyline?

[Ellen DeGeneres]

You mean once I came out or just making that decision?

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Well, I guess both.

[Ellen DeGeneres]

Coming out was. Yeah, it was kind of tough because they didn't know what was going to happen with that. And, you know, it was a huge decision But I kept making everyone. I mean, because I knew I was coming out. And I thought, if I'm coming out, the character should come out because it's ridiculous. The character's kind of, you know, close to who I am. And it made sense because she never dated on the show. And it was just, it was never going to be about dating. And I didn't really think it through. I didn't think, okay, where do we go after this? But I just thought, I'm the one taking the bigger chance here. You know, you can cancel me and have your company worth, you know, a billion dollars and you can put somebody else on the air, but I may lose my career, although I didn't think I would. I thought it was not going to be a big deal. And I was wrong. But it was, you know, it was hard to say, listen, I can't just ignore this now. The character doesn't just come out and go back to her life. We've got to somehow. It's not a funny thing at all. For most people, it's a really tough thing. But let's try to make it funny. Let's try to make it awkward and make this an interesting show that no one's seen before, the process of changing your world. But I, I was really proud of that last year. And I think when people look back on it, they will realize that it was, it was a good year. It just didn't do well.

[Radio Host/Commentator]

Hey, Ellen, this is Jen. And my question is kind of in how you handled that situation in comparison to real life, you were saying, like, the show was very serious and it was a very big deal, but you try to deal with it with, hum. Is that kind of the same way in your everyday life, are you dealing with difficult situations by making everybody laugh?

[Ellen DeGeneres]

Well, I think that that's, you know, my life is really good right now. So, you know, if I have anything to complain about, I try to shake myself or slap myself and say, you know, life is really, really good for me. So I don't ever really feel sorry for myself or complain. And I think it's really important to me. I mean, this is what I've always done. I'm a comedian. And what I love about this show is that people watch the show and they feel good. Every single person that comes up to me says that the show just makes them happy. And if I can do that for an hour, which is what I used to do with stand up and you know that for an hour, you're forgetting whatever's going on in your Life or in the world, which is a pretty scary place right now. And, you know, I like making people feel good. So, yeah, I think it's an important way for. It's how I tried to. I'm sometimes better at getting other people to do it than myself, you know, but that's. That's how most of us are, I think.

[Burt Show Host]

Talking to Ellen DeGeneres. Her show is on at 5:00 clock on CBS 46 here in Atlanta. We're gonna talk to her about her. Some of her guests coming up here in a couple minutes also.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, And I'm curious when, you know, at the end of Ellen and then into Dori and Finding Nemo, I mean, everybody still knows you're the same Ellen as you always were. Do you think you're more accepted now than you were, you know, 10 years ago or five years ago?

[Ellen DeGeneres]

Well, yeah, I think definitely now because there was just a time, a short time, where people didn't know if I was going to change or be the same person. And it took a while for me to convince people that I am the same person. And, you know, I think that, you know, I just. I'm exactly the same person. I think I'm smarter and stronger and I can look back on some things that I did and go, oh, that's. That may not have been a smart move, but everybody makes mistakes. Everybody learns something. But yeah, I definitely think I'm more accepted now just because I've grown a lot and I've learned a lot. And also the focus isn't on that anymore. The focus is that's just a part of who I am. It's not. I'm back to just being able to be myself and be funny and be a comedian and make people feel good and, you know, it's just kind of accepted as who I am.

[Burt Show Host]

You know, Melissa brought up Finding Nemo, and I'm just curious because I have a two year old now. And if you and I were at the bank together and he heard you talk, he obviously wouldn't know that you were Ellen DeGeneres, but he would obviously know. The voice is Dory.

[Ellen DeGeneres]

Yeah.

[Burt Show Host]

Does that happen to you from time to time?

[Ellen DeGeneres]

Yeah. People will bring their kids and say, you know, this is Dory, which is really confusing to a kid because. And then I tell them to close their eyes and I start talking like Dory and. Which is pretty close to this voice anyway. But, you know, yeah, a lot of kids are huge fans because of. Because of Dory.

[Burt Show Host]

No doubt. No doubt. Well, the television show is on here at 5:00 clock on CBS. 46.

[Radio Host/Commentator]

Ellen, why did you decide to go in the talk show format? What was kind of your reasoning behind wanting to try that?

[Ellen DeGeneres]

I'd always wanted to do that. I mean, I shouldn't say always, but, you know, I was offered a talk show when I was still doing Ellen, when I was doing that sitcom. And I just didn't think that I was ready to do it. I wanted to wait a while. And it was at the time like Rosie was getting one, and I think Queen Latifah had one, and, like, a lot of people had one. I thought, everybody's doing talk shows. I'm just gonna wait. And then I, you know, kind of everything went away for a while and then I got another offer to do the Ellen show, which was the next sitcom, and that didn't work. And so I just thought, I'm just gonna be myself, you know, and a talk show seems like a really great way to do that because I can think on my toes. I love talking to people. I love being spontaneous. I love music. We can have music on. And it just seemed like the exact right thing for me to do. And it wasn't like I had a lot of other offers or options anyway. So, you know, it just. It just was. It was just the thing that was in front of me, and I said, well, this is what I'll do now. And it has been the exact right thing that, you know, I should have done.

[Burt Show Host]

Well, I'm looking at these guests that are scheduled over the next couple of weeks, and it's so obvious that people want to be on your show, like this week. Ashley Judd and Ruben Studdard, Terry Hatcher. Then you look at, like, over the next couple of weeks, there's Matthew Feck, Matthew fox and Matt LeBlanc. You got Gwen Stefani, Renee Zellweger. What do you think it is about your show that is making these celebrities want to stop by and hang with you?

[Ellen DeGeneres]

I don't know. I like it. I mean, you know, everybody that comes on, you know, says that, you know, of all the shows they do, they really look forward to this show and they have fun. And I don't know, I can't put my finger on it. It's something that is. I think it's different about the show because everybody can just have a. And it's not the typical, you know, question and answer. And it's. And it's, you know, they know that I'm not going to do anything that's going to make them feel uncomfortable. And, you know, because this is work. I mean, as much as you can say, oh, they're just being themselves, that's not comfortable for most celebrities. They're better being characters. They're not as comfortable being themselves. So I want them to reveal something that we don't normally see, and I want them to feel comfortable doing that. So I just try to make it fun for everybody.

[Burt Show Host]

Well, it's great. I mean, the show is really great and we wish you great success with it. Again, it's Ellen DeGeneres. Ellen on at 5:00 on CBS 46Am I missing anything here? Any other projects coming up I haven't touched on?

[Ellen DeGeneres]

No, that's. That's all good. It's all. It's all fantastic.

[Burt Show Host]

Good. Nice talking to you, Ellen DeGeneres.

[Ellen DeGeneres]

Hey, y' all too.

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[Burt Show Host]

So around 4 o' clock on Friday afternoon, this comes down. We the jury in the above entitled.

[Caller/Listener]

Cause find the defendant Scott Lee Peterson guilty of the crime of murder of Lacey Denise Peterson. We the jury in the above and title cause find the defendant Scott Lee Peterson guilty of the crime of murder of baby Connor Peterson.

[Burt Show Host]

Do you guys see the crowd outside the courthouse?

[Radio Announcer/Promoter]

No.

[Burt Show Host]

Why do people go to those things? That's so surreal to me.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, I don't know why they hold their radio.

[Radio Host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Burt Show Host]

Hundreds of people out there, you know, like holding their cell phones up and then when they finally come down with the verdict, it erupts into either applause or booing or whatever. So Scott Peterson found guilty on two different counts.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, they found him guilty of first degree murder for Lacy's death, but second degree murder for their unborn child.

[Burt Show Host]

Now, for weeks and weeks and weeks, if not months, we've been talking to this woman named Emily, who is a big Scott Peterson supporter. Big Scott Peterson supporter. In fact, she's been writing him letters of support in jail. She said that if he was found innocent and he ended up in Atlanta, she'd be here with open arms. Thought he was a Good looking guy and thought he was innocent right from the start. So here's just kind of a minute compilation of some conversations that we've had with Emily.

[Caller/Listener]

I've actually written Scott like, you know, once, maybe like once every two weeks since the trial started last fall.

[Burt Show Host]

Okay, what is it about this trial and what is it about Scott Peterson that makes you think that he'd be a great guy to correspond with?

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, I mean, he's such an attractive guy. And when I look at him, I can look in his eyes. I really believe that he's innocent.

[Burt Show Host]

What did you see over the last couple of days that makes you believe for sure, for sure that he is innocent?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, the judge is now going to allow the jury to consider second degree murder as opposed to first degree murder. So that proves right there that if he really believed that the prosecutor did their case correctly and that they proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Scott was guilty, then that wouldn't even be on the table. That wouldn't even be an option.

[Burt Show Host]

Nicole is on the phone.

[Caller/Listener]

He didn't. He didn't even think about his wife or his own child's life because you know what he was thinking, right? You're all knowing you know exactly what he was thinking and what he was thinking. That was an innocent child. And if anybody deserves an apology, it is his. It is her parent that lost a child as well as a grandchild. Well, I totally disagree with you. So you know how you walk, get your ass in a straight jacket and put your ass in a set.

[Radio Host/Commentator]

You can disagree all you want, but you wrong.

[Burt Show Host]

I love it.

[Radio Host/Commentator]

I love Nicole and oh, this Emily girl, I think frustrated all of us. And Bert show listener so much because she's just so hard headed. Every time we talk to her. She wouldn't listen to anything. She had her mind made up from day one. She had her opinion set and she was just gonna spin everything that happened, everything that came out in the courtroom. She was gonna spin all of it to support her theory.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

But just like we heard from the clip, you know, she was. She thought that the fact they were introducing second degree murder showed that the prosecution didn't know what they were talking about and they did weren't confident in their case. And then what we didn't think about was the fact that the second degree murder was introduced because of the premeditation and non premeditation. I felt like he was aggravated against Lacey and that the unborn son was a second degree murder because it was not premeditated for him.

[Burt Show Host]

So getting back to what Jen was saying is we were just going around in circles with this woman for weeks because every conversation was the same. Every time we brought something up, she was adamantly against it and wasn't listening. So we're like, you know what, we're done with this, I think. Cause done.

[Radio Host/Commentator]

Ugh, I can't stand hard headed people like that.

[Burt Show Host]

So we agreed to just say, look, after the verdict comes out, innocent or guilty, we'll talk to each other one last time. Okay, if he's innocent, then you can come on here and rip on us. We'll apologize, whatever. If he's found guilty, then we're gonna have a fun time with you. All right? And we agreed to that. So producer Tracy talked to Emily on Friday after the verdict and while she was reluctant, she's like, yeah, I'll come on between 7 and 7:30. So 7:15 rolls around this morning and producer Tracy has been trying to get Emily on the phone for 45 minutes and 7:30 rolls around and Emily's not answering her phone. So we go on the air and we say, look, sorry, but Emily's just not coming on. All these listeners start calling up, ripping on her of course, saying of course she wasn't gonna come on. She's a coward. She's a coward. So I guess Emily was listening to that and because her good name was being tarnished, she decided to call in about 8 o'. Clock.

[Radio Announcer/Promoter]

Good name.

[Burt Show Host]

Good morning, Emily.

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning.

[Burt Show Host]

And how are you today?

[Caller/Listener]

I'm fine.

[Burt Show Host]

We thought for sure you weren't gonna join us.

[Caller/Listener]

No, I absolutely planned on joining you and as a matter of fact, it's just that I was in my car and my cell phone was dead. I had to wait to wrote to call you. So no, I'm not avoiding speaking to you at all.

[Burt Show Host]

Okay, you want to go ahead and address the verdict now because he's guilty. I mean he's been found guilty on two counts.

[Caller/Listener]

I think it's sad because while everyone is celebrating, the real killer still walking around free.

[Burt Show Host]

Are you kidding me?

[Caller/Listener]

No, I think it's. It's sad. It really is.

[Burt Show Host]

So you still believe that this man is innocent? Now a jury of his peers has said he is guilty of jury had.

[Caller/Listener]

Never been wrong in this country, huh? Not to mention these are people, I mean, from California. I mean they live in a blue state. You know what I mean?

[Burt Show Host]

No, actually I don't. I mean, I know what you're referring to, but no, I don't.

[Caller/Listener]

Whatever. I just totally don't agree. I still think the real Killer is walking around, and it's really a sad day. I'm more sad than anything else.

[Burt Show Host]

What, again, would have had to happen over the course of the last couple of months for you to say, okay, the man is guilty? Was anything gonna be able to be.

[Caller/Listener]

Said for them to bring in the person that really killed the family, who really killed Lacey and her child, then? That would make me happy. That's the only thing that would make me happy. But not framing Scott Peterson.

[Burt Show Host]

Who framed him?

[Caller/Listener]

He didn't do it.

[Burt Show Host]

Who framed him?

[Caller/Listener]

I really don't believe that he did it, in a matter of fact. I mean, they kept having to dismiss jurors, and I just think they kept dismissing the jurors who believed he was innocent until they continued to get one in there who agreed with the rest of everyone else.

[Burt Show Host]

Melissa predicted that you were gonna say it was some kind of conspiracy.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Well, and I felt because. And I made. I think I made the comment last week, though, Emily, is that I. You know, if someone like you was on that jury, you would have to be dismissed because you were so set in your opinion that you would. You weren't. Look. You would not have looked at the evidence to determine what the evidence said.

[Caller/Listener]

And I'm saying that those two people, those two jurors that were dismissed then weren't looking at the evidence and said they didn't believe like everybody else and their opinions.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

No, they just weren't. One woman was dismissed for having her own sources, like, she was not looking. Just because you said, your Emily in this, that people just need to look at the evidence. That was your argument, and people were dismissed because they weren't.

[Caller/Listener]

No, maybe she was looking at sources that the cops didn't bother to look at, and maybe that's why.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

It's not her job.

[Burt Show Host]

That's not legal. You can't do that when you're a jury.

[Caller/Listener]

It's her job to decide whether or not an innocent man goes to jail.

[Burt Show Host]

Or not based on the evidence that is presented in court.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

But there's no reason to argue with Emily about that, because that was Emily's argument in the beginning was just to look at the evidence and not to. To go in with your personal feelings of Scott. And now, because the verdict didn't go the way she agrees with, now she's arguing that you can't just look at the evidence.

[Caller/Listener]

No, I'm just saying that all the evidence really wasn't looked at. There was evidence in this trial that the judge wouldn't even let the jurors.

[Radio Host/Commentator]

Consider what do you think about his lawyer not even being there when the verdict went down?

[Caller/Listener]

I'm sure there was a strategic move behind that. I mean, I haven't spoken to him, so I can't speak from why he wasn't there. Garagos was in Southern California working on another case.

[Burt Show Host]

Let me read from CourtTV.com that addresses exactly what Jeff is saying here. The high profile Los Angeles lawyer who has been the public face of Peterson's defense since shortly after his arrest, opted to remain in Southern California and tend to other cases rather than be on hand for deliberations.

[Caller/Listener]

But we don't know why. We don't know why. None of us know why. What could be more important than that he couldn't get there in time, why he wasn't at the trial? We don't know.

[Burt Show Host]

If they didn't do it by 4.

[Caller/Listener]

O' clock on Friday, they would have.

[Burt Show Host]

To wait until Monday. So from what I understand, Garrigo said there's no way they announced it at 2:30, that they would make the announcement at 4.

[Caller/Listener]

And if they didn't do it, then.

[Burt Show Host]

They were gonna wait until Monday. You know, his dad, Scott Peterson's dad wasn't there either. Right. He didn't show up for it either. All right, Emily, I want to put you on with Nicole.

[Caller/Listener]

Fine. Nicole, what's going on?

[Burt Show Host]

Go ahead. You're on with Emily.

[Caller/Listener]

Emily, I mean, I just don't understand why you were still standing behind this. I don't understand. I mean, the verdict is not enough for you? I don't think. Because I really don't believe that he's guilty. That's why I'm standing behind my statement. Okay, so the first thing that you had initially said, that he was just so attractive. You didn't think he was guilty because he was so attractive. Then you said that you thought that, you know, it was the evidence. They didn't have enough evidence. They didn't have enough evidence. Now you're saying that they didn't look at all the evidence? No, they didn't. I don't think that they looked at all the evidence to consider another possibility other than Scott. I think it was always focused on him. What other evidence? I'm not a cop. I wasn't there. That's not my job. But there was evidence, as far as I'm concerned, that was not looked at. Okay, so it's other evidence. You just don't know what that other evidence is. Hey, look, if the cops have explored every avenue, then probably we wouldn't be having this Conversation. But since they didn't do that, then. Hey, can you continue to write him now? Yes, I am. You're gonna go ahead. I think he should file an appeal. I think he should file an appeal. Okay, so who gonna be his lawyer now? Well, I don't know. Mar is not the only attorney walking around in the usa. I believe he can find another attorney. He cannot defend him.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Whatever.

[Burt Show Host]

Whatever.

[Caller/Listener]

There are other attorneys that will be that. That as far as I'm concerned, there is no reason that you should be dis supportive of a man that killed his wife. And why are you hollering? And somebody need to holler at you. Somebody needs to talk some damn sense. No, something's wrong with you.

[Radio Announcer/Promoter]

No.

[Caller/Listener]

Calm down. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Help us leave a damn thing wrong with it. I'm worried about the king of the church. You ain't worried about no damn body, but your horny ass hormone that can't find a regular man. That's what you worried about. Whatever. If she'll stop screaming, I'll comment. Are you done screaming? You know what you said on air. You just said on the air. No comment. Hello? No comment. Hello?

[Burt Show Host]

Nicole. Nicole. Nicole. Nicole.

[Caller/Listener]

Is this a conversation or is this a shouting match? You know what it was.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Nicole.

[Radio Announcer/Promoter]

Nicole.

[Burt Show Host]

Nicole. Nicole.

[Radio Announcer/Promoter]

Nicole.

[Caller/Listener]

Tell me to get your phone.

[Burt Show Host]

Nicole.

[Caller/Listener]

Let's look at who's mentally unstable here. The person who's screaming like a mad woman.

[Burt Show Host]

I feel like that bald guy on.

[Radio Announcer/Promoter]

Springer.

[Caller/Listener]

Or me breaking up the phone. Yeah, scream away. Scream.

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[Burt Show Host]

Nicole.

[Radio Announcer/Promoter]

Nicole.

[Caller/Listener]

Keep screaming. I'm gonna sell together.

[Burt Show Host]

I gotta put Nicole on hold. I love her. To go pick her up and see.

[Radio Announcer/Promoter]

If she's still gone.

[Caller/Listener]

I have something I want to say. Okay, go ahead. Nicole. Just on the air. Oh, you know, I'm so happy. I'm happy with the verdict. I was happy for the child. I'm not happy for the child. The child is dead. So that if you can rewind what was just said while I was listening to the radio, she's saying she's happy for the child. Why would anybody be happy for a poor child that's dead? Well, she's happy because somebody's unstable here. One person screaming, one person's not as far as I'm concerned, I'm the one who's stable.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

No, Emily, what she said was that there was justice for that child. She's happy.

[Caller/Listener]

No, she didn't state justice for the child. Rewind it. She said I was happy for the child.

[Radio Host/Commentator]

She said that she felt it was because she felt.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Emily, she's deflecting what's going on.

[Burt Show Host]

I know she's just deflecting what's going on.

[Radio Host/Commentator]

She felt that Lacey's family and that. And that unborn child was vindicated by.

[Caller/Listener]

But that's not what she said, Emily.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Come on, Emily.

[Caller/Listener]

That's not what she said.

[Burt Show Host]

What is your next letter to Scott Peterson gonna say?

[Caller/Listener]

That he should file an appeal?

[Burt Show Host]

Well, I don't think you need to write him to tell him that. Yeah, I think somebody's probably on top.

[Caller/Listener]

Of that, you know, just to be supportive and tell him, you know, hang in there. Unfortunately, the real killer's walking around while you're suffering.

[Burt Show Host]

You should also advise him to move around prison with his back to the wall, you know?

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah. The real killer's walk. In the past two years, there's not been another death in that area, but they're still walking around the streets.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, all I'm trying to say to you is that I don't believe that Scott Peterson is guilty. I believe it was the wrong decision. And as far as I'm concerned, there's really no reason for us to continue this conversation.

[Radio Host/Commentator]

So everybody in California, beware that satanic cult.

[Caller/Listener]

That's wrong. Everyone is wrong. I'm done with the conversation. Thank you. Goodbye.

[Burt Show Host]

And that'll be that good. Anybody surprised by her call back during.

[Caller/Listener]

An appeal or something like that?

[Radio Host/Commentator]

I was tired of hearing from her. She is just bold.

[Burt Show Host]

Nobody's surprised by that. Right? We knew she was. That was gonna be her attitude.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

Will you pick up Nicole and see.

[Burt Show Host]

If she's still going? I bet she still is when you pick up. Hey, Nicole.

[Caller/Listener]

No, she did sit up there and say that. I was talking about being happy for the child. Y' all lucky that helper hung up. Cause I would have said some real nice words that your wood had to bleep out. You know what I meant?

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

And the heifer trying to, you know, just come back with something. But she has nothing to come back with. I have calmed down now. I'm so sorry for going on and on Burt Show. To my friends on the Burt Show, I do apologize. He gets me riled up every time. She know how to work. Nicole. Nerves.

[Radio Co-host/Commentator]

Child, I think you represented a great many of the Burt show listeners who wanted to do the same thing.

[Radio Host/Commentator]

Exactly.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay.

[Burt Show Host]

You know, we got your back.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, you know what? I think we should have a boxing match. And he said round one. Said. Burt said round one. I call it like this. Frosty the Showman. Me and Emily in the ring, no hoes. But my money's on you.

[Burt Show Host]

My money's on you. All right, Nicole, we gotta move on. Good talking to you.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, y' all have a good day.

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