Vault: He feels pitbulls are aggressive

Summary

The Bert Show: "Vault: He feels pitbulls are aggressive"

Release Date: June 29, 2026
Hosts: Bert, Bart, Ashley, Alexis, Jen, Jamie, Lindsay, and call-in guests
Theme: The dog park debate—handling aggressive dogs (with a focus on pit bulls), owner accountability, and improving dog park safety

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Overview

In this episode, The Bert Show hosts dive into the challenges and frustrations faced at dog parks, specifically Atlanta’s Piedmont Park. The recent closure and planned improvement of the dog park spark a deeper debate about dog owner responsibility, aggressive breeds (especially pit bulls), and potential solutions for safer, more enjoyable park experiences for people and their pets.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Piedmont Park Dog Park – The Setup

• Bert recounts a recent visit to Piedmont Park’s dog park and its current layout: two separate fenced areas for small (<30 lbs) and large dogs (>30 lbs). The park is now closed for expansion and improvements.
  • [01:00-01:44] Bert: “It’s a great place to go…get the dogs off the leash, they get to mess around with each other.”

2. The Real Issue: Owner Denial and Aggression

• Hosts draw parallels between oblivious “bad dog owners” and parents who ignore their children’s disruptive behavior.
• Bert expresses frustration with owners who fail to remove aggressive dogs, even after repeated altercations.
• [01:45-02:14] Bert: “If you’re in a dog park and your dog is the aggressive one…and you see your dog attack other dogs three or four times—get out of the park.”

3. The Pit Bull Controversy

• Bert and Bart openly question whether some breeds (specifically pit bulls) are inherently aggressive, referencing personal observations at dog parks.
  • [03:49-04:08] Bert: “I am sorry, pit bull owners. Those dogs are aggressive dogs, no matter how much you tell me they’re not.”
• Bart points out that many people deliberately choose “aggressive breeds” (German Shepherds, Dobermans, Rottweilers, pit bulls) for their temperament.
  • [04:08-04:29] Bart: “If you get a German shepherd, Doberman, rottweiler, you got those dogs on purpose…because of their nature.”

4. Owner Responsibility and Socialization

• The cast and callers discuss proper dog socialization, acceptance of normal dog scuffles, and when repeated aggression must not be tolerated.
• Ashley suggests slow socialization techniques for dogs new to the park environment.
  • [07:03-07:13] Ashley: “Aren’t you supposed to, like, walk them around the perimeter of the park so they…get more used to it before…throwing them in there?”

5. Callers Weigh In – Real Experiences

• Callers relay stories of poorly managed dogs (especially pit bulls) creating chaos, including an incident where a pit bull’s owner dismisses aggressive behavior as “playful.”
  • [05:22-05:33] Jen (via Lindsay): “She’s like, ‘Oh, I know. He’s a little…playful.’ That dog weighed like 200 pounds.”
• Another caller recounts seeing owners bring dog food into the park, igniting fights and exacerbating dominance issues.
  • [07:15-08:31] Lindsay: “These owners of pit bulls will bring in food, and they’ll put the food down…a huge fight broke out.”

6. Solutions: Park Patrols and Policy

• The group debates the need for designated park monitors to enforce rules and remove aggressive dogs.
• Bert suggests a warning (yellow card) and ejection (red card) system like soccer.
  • [08:43-08:53] Bert: “Like in soccer…you get a yellow card for your warning, then you get your red card, and you’re booted out of the game.”

7. Responsible Ownership—A Pit Bull Owner’s Perspective

• Jamie, a pit bull owner, calls in to share that her dog is “the sweetest” but, due to its strength and potential, she never lets it off leash in uncertain territory.
  • [08:53-09:32] Jamie: “He’s honestly the sweetest dog I have ever owned. But…if he’s just playing, he could really hurt someone or another dog.”

8. The Ongoing Debate: Nature vs. Nurture

• Bart remains firm that people choose pit bulls for their reputation and potential for aggression.
  • [09:32-09:40] Bart: “Let’s be completely honest. You got that dog because of its breed and its aggressive nature.”
• Counterargument: Not all owners choose pit bulls for aggression—many acquire rescues or adopt responsibly.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [01:45] Bert: “Dog owners are very much like a lot of parents…if you have a crappy parent or a crappy kid, sometimes you don’t know you have a crappy kid. And it is the same way with dog owners.”
• [03:49-04:08] Bert: “Every time I’m in the dog park…I am sorry, pit bull owners. Those dogs are aggressive dogs, no matter how much you tell me they’re not.”
• [08:31] Bart (on bringing food): “How stupid to bring food to a dog park. You’re an idiot. I’m telling you right now. You’re an idiot.”
• [08:53-09:32] Jamie (pit bull owner, caller): “At the same time, I’m not stupid. I don’t take him out into a territory to where he could potentially hurt someone else simply because…he could really hurt someone or another dog.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:00-01:44] Setting the scene at Piedmont Park; dog park improvements.
• [01:45-02:31] Owner denial about dog aggression
• [03:49-04:29] The pit bull aggression debate and choosing "aggressive" breeds.
• [05:22-05:33] Caller recounts pit bull owner dismissing aggression.
• [07:15-08:31] Callers on owners bringing food, dominance problems
• [08:43-08:53] Bert’s red/yellow card enforcement solution
• [08:53-09:32] Pit bull owner’s responsible viewpoint
• [10:06-10:13] Breeds and aggression—are some just “more aggressive”?

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Takeaways

• Dog park safety depends on self-aware, responsible owners willing to manage their pets’ behavior—regardless of breed.
• Pit bulls remain a lightning rod for debates about nature versus nurture, with strong opinions on both sides.
• There’s widespread support for increased supervision or enforcement at dog parks to protect all users.
• Key Solution: Implementing a "park monitor" or a card-based warning/ejection system receives enthusiastic backing.

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Tone:
Candid, opinionated, sometimes contentious but rooted in personal experience and concern for public safety. The hosts’ banter is humorous and engaging but underlined by a genuine call for responsibility and community-minded policy at dog parks.

Transcript

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[Bert]

The Birch show so I have a suggestion for the Piedmont park whatever it is association concerning. Great idea. The dog park down there. Great idea. You guys been to the dog park in Piedmont Park?

[Ashley]

Yeah.

[Jen]

Yeah.

[Bert]

It's a great idea on paper. Right. I went there on Sunday. We brought pancake down there. And as it stands right now they have two different fenced off areas. One are for small dogs that are under 30 pounds and the other one is for dogs that are over 30 pounds. And it's a great place to go. You get the dogs off the leash, they get to mess around with each other and stuff like that. They've actually closed the dog park as of today and they are reopening it in the summer. And it's supposed to be way bigger and way better.

[Bart]

Okay.

[Bert]

The problem I have with it is this is not the dog park itself. It's. I think dog owners are very much like a lot of parents where if you have a crappy parent or a crappy kid, sometimes you don't know you have a crappy kid. And it is the same way with dog owners. And it drives me crazy. Like if you're in a dog park and your dog is the aggressive one and you see your dog attack other dogs three or four times. Get out of the park.

[Bart]

Yeah.

[Ashley]

You have to get it together, get your dog and leave. You can't just pretend like you don't see it.

[Bert]

I rarely see owners of aggressive dogs take their dogs out of the park. They always think that it's the other dog or it's just the way dogs play.

[Alexis]

He never does this. He never does this. In the neighborhood.

[Bart]

Right.

[Bert]

But how do you not know you have an aggressive dog when you've. He's been in four fights already. Nobody leaves.

[Alexis]

It's the same thing with parents. We have friends who every time when they visit from out of town and bring their kids in, every time their kids around, the kid's like crying, fussy, bratty, whiny, talks back, blah, blah, blah. And it's almost a joke now where we'll make the bet. How long until we hear. God, I don't know why she's doing this. She never does this at home.

[Ashley]

Right.

[Bert]

It's like parents can't see it in their own kids and a lot of dog owners can't see it in their own dogs. Also here would be my suggestion for Piedmont park is they've got to have somebody down there like that gives out warnings or tickets or something like that. Because I saw some dogs get into some serious fights this weekend and the owners weren't doing a damn thing.

[Alexis]

Can you imagine those people who don't acknowledge their dogs aggressiveness dealing with the little lady for a volunteer who just wrote them up?

[Bert]

I know. Do you think that they.

[Alexis]

Well, I think that yes, they would fight it.

[Ashley]

A lot of times they sort of like it's a reflection of their own machismo that they let their dog go do that.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Bart]

I don't think they're disappointed that they have an aggressive dog.

[Bert]

You don't think so?

[Unidentified Caller]

Yeah, I think, yeah, I'd be embarrassed, you know, if my dog's in is the aggressive one and I have to get out of there and take my dog. I don't even want to claim the dog if it's being aggressive and just bit your dog. So then maybe people leaving them in there because of that.

[Bert]

And I almost hate to say this because I know I'm going to get email about it, but every time I'm in the dog park, I am sorry, pit bull owners. Those dogs are aggressive dogs, no matter how much you tell me they're not. That it's really the owner. You go to any dog park, if there are pit bulls in there, I'd say there's a 75% chance that that pit bull's gonna be the aggressive one in that park.

[Bart]

Well, and I call out dog owners. If you get a German shepherd, if you get a Doberman pinscher, if you get a rottweiler, you get a pit bull. You got those dogs on purpose. You know, they're aggressive dogs. That's why you got them, you know, so you talk About a pit bull. Owner may not, you know, see. Know that their dog is aggressive. Well, that's the whole reason you got that dog, because of its nature.

[Bert]

Well, then don't keep off leash around other dogs, because you know what's going to happen.

[Bart]

I think a lot of dog owners leave their dogs at home alone, and the dog park is the only time that they have interaction with that dog. Because I think that that's why they don't know how they behave, because they're not around them long enough to know how they behave.

[Bert]

So irritating. Hey, Alexis. Good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Lindsay]

Hey, guys.

[Bart]

Good morning.

[Jen]

Pretty much. I totally agree, especially with the pit bull thing. My husband and I had a dog, and we took the dog to Piedmont park, and there was this chick there that had this ginormous pit bull, and it was kind of muddy out, and, like, the pit bull would just run around and, like, not only attack other dogs, but would attack us. Like, would pretty much jump on top of us, get his muddy paws all over our clothes, and we're like, dude, what the heck? Get your dog.

[Bert]

You get one chance at this. If your dog gets aggress, then you gotta leave.

[Lindsay]

Well, and sometimes.

[Jen]

And we, like, told her, we're like, you don't see your dog. She's like, oh, I know. He's a little, you know, playful. Playful. That dog weighed, like 200 pounds.

[Ashley]

I think sometimes a dog can snap and act outside of their normal behavior. So if it happens once to somebody at the park, I don't think that's a big deal. They get a pass for once for once or whatever. Then you get your dog together and you go, it's no big deal. Because I think as a dog owner, you have to have some sort of tolerance for that, you know, like, dog personalities are gonna clash just like people personalities are. And they may show behavior that they typically don't. But at the same time, like, if it happens more than once or it's three, four times, get out.

[Bert]

I saw two or three guys this weekend, and it's not an anomaly. Cause I see it every time I'm at the dog park. Any dog park is where the dog gets in a fight with another dog. The owner sort of nonchalantly breaks it up, and then doesn't put the dog on the leash and allows it to happen time and time again, you know? Hey, Ashley.

[Jen]

Hey, Bear.

[Jamie]

How are you doing?

[Bert]

Okay. How are you?

[Jen]

Good.

[Lindsay]

I met Pancake last fall, I think,

[Jamie]

at the dog park.

[Bert]

Okay.

[Jen]

So cute.

[Lindsay]

Anyway, I have a little French bulldog.

[Jamie]

So I know what you mean.

[Jen]

In that little dog park, they have,

[Jamie]

you know, those little yappy dogs that are just so angry.

[Bart]

Isn't that all little dogs?

[Jen]

I mean, my wife wants to be friends with all of them, and that's

[Lindsay]

why I take them to the park.

[Jen]

And then there's these little dogs that

[Jamie]

are just barking and freaking out and just don't take your dog if he's not social.

[Bart]

Well, I think for some, they don't know until. Because not everybody has more than one dog. So a lot of people. I agree with Jen. A lot of people don't know what their dog is gonna do when they get there. But it's like you said, if it's repeated behavior. I mean, come on. I mean, you're irritating everybody.

[Bert]

Right.

[Ashley]

And you have to socialize them slowly. Aren't you supposed to, like, walk them around the perimeter of the park so they get to know, like, the smells and they can kind of, like, get more used to it before just, like, throwing them in there?

[Bert]

Hey, Lindsay.

[Lindsay]

Hey, Bart. I am. It's so funny that you guys are talking about this. I went to the dog park on Saturday. My husband and I used to go there all the time about a year and a half ago. And I went down there with my sister, and I have a big dog. I rescue dogs. And same exact thing happened. You know, these owners of pit bulls will bring in food, and they'll put the food down.

[Bart]

Oh, my God.

[Lindsay]

And here it goes. And you know what they do? They sit on the side and they laugh about the whole time. The problem with this is that they bring alpha male dogs there, and that's not a place. A dog park's not a place where a dog is trying to look to be dominant.

[Alexis]

What do they mean? They bring food in? Like, they bring, like, a bowl of food so the dog will eat at the park?

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[Lindsay]

Last year when we went in there, that was when right now they're doing construction, I think, and it's a lot smaller.

[Jamie]

But when it was really big, way

[Lindsay]

down on the other side to the left, where the little one. Used to be a little dog park, these owners would actually bring out a

[Jamie]

bowl of food and put it there,

[Lindsay]

and I cannot tell you, a huge fight broke out.

[Jamie]

Nobody was there to monitor this and

[Lindsay]

to get these people in trouble. I 100% agree with Bert about having somebody patrol.

[Bert]

Yeah, there's gotta be somebody there taking care of things. And the sound of dogs fighting, to me is like, you can't get that out of your head. Man, it's so bad.

[Bart]

How stupid to bring food to a dog park. You're an idiot. I'm tell you right now. You're an idiot.

[Ashley]

But creating the positions of somebody to sort of monitor it or patrol it or whatever, I think is great. I mean, create some jobs around the city, too.

[Bert]

You know, I was thinking, like, almost like in soccer. Your first you get a yellow card for your warning, then you get your red card, and you're booted out of the game. Yeah, same thing at a dog park. Hey, Jamie. Good morning.

[Jamie]

Hi.

[Lindsay]

Good morning. I was just gonna say that, you

[Jamie]

know, I have a pit bull, and he's honestly the sweetest dog that I have ever owned. But at the same time, I'm not stupid. I don't take him out into a territory to where he could potentially hurt someone else simply because he's not. He doesn't know he's hurting someone. He's stronger than just about any other dog that's out there. So, you know, if he's just playing, he could really hurt someone or another dog. And it's just stupid for people to, you know, take that breed of dog out to where they could actually. Or let them loose to where they could actually hurt someone.

[Bart]

And I appreciate your, you know, you being responsible with it, but let's be completely honest. You got that dog because of its breed and its aggressive nature.

[Jamie]

Actually, I got him because my friend couldn't keep him, okay? He moved to a new home.

[Bert]

If you specifically go out to get

[Bart]

a pit bull, wouldn't you agree if you're going out to get a pit bull, you are not going out to get a sweet dog.

[Jamie]

You know, I mean, 98% of the time, people that get pit bulls want them for protection or, you know, I hate to say it, people get them being irresponsible and saying, oh, I have a pit bull, but they don't know how you control them.

[Bart]

Right.

[Bert]

There are some breeds that are just more aggressive than other breeds. Pitbull is more aggressive than a collie, period.

[Bart]

Yes. Yeah, that's great that it's the sweetest dog you've ever owned. But I just. Yeah, pit bulls. I think that's one breed I. I have never really wanted to own.

[Bert]

You know, I just make the suggestion to Piedmont park that when you do open that big old dog park, I'm so excited about to have my dog run around off leash, man. But have somebody down there that can point people out saying, you got to go, dude.

[Alexis]

If I'm Piedmont Park, I'm calling you today and I'm saying we'll hire that person if you do it for the first weekend.

[Bert]

I would do that and you would

[Alexis]

stand down there and I could you people will get in your face and yell at you.

[Bert]

I'll do it.

[Alexis]

You got to wear those glasses with the camera.

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