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This is the bird show. So we're gonna be walking a really fine line here for a second. But before we even get into it, let me tell you what our intention here is. Is that a dude named Beaver Phillips.
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It's awesome.
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Beaver Phillips has created a website called Copy, paste and Bang. Okay. It is a church site. It is a website that calls itself a step by step guide for men to meet women on the Internet and. And get laid.
F
Okay, and what's his name again?
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Come on.
F
Come one more time. Again.
C
His name is Beaver Phillips.
F
Okay.
C
Okay. Normally we would find out about an author like this and it just. It's not our thing. I mean, exposing women to guys that are online, that are simply there just trying to take advantage of using of women and just get laid. Probably something we would just pass on. But then we thought twice about it and we thought, okay, is it smarter to pass on it or do you do more good by sort of exposing it? And the women that are listening to the Birch show know that this is the kind of thing that's going on online.
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Okay?
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And that's what we went with. So if you're a new listener, this is not normal material that we'd say, okay, go to copy paste and bang right now. If you want to find a girl and you want to get laid this weekend, this is the place to go. That's not what our show is all about. But I do think that there is definitely an important reason to have the dude on. Just if you're a woman and you are online and you're going to places like, like match.com that there are dudes out there that don't really have much of an interest in really having a relationship with you, right? Just want to hook up and get laid, period. And I think that's what Beaver's intention here is. Hey, Beaver.
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Hey, good morning, guys.
C
Hey, how are you?
D
I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on the show.
C
All right. Did I get that right? Like, your website is not really one that is one that is dedicated to hooking up great guys with great women and hopefully y' all spend the rest of your lives together.
D
Well, here's the thing, and I got to make it very clear right from the beginning, I am not out there in any way, shape or form tricking women. I'm not doing that at all. As a matter of fact, in the book, I preach three main concepts. And the first one is self confidence, the second is humor, and the third is honesty. As a matter of fact, chapter four is called Lying equals too much work. So, you know, again, I'm not out there being deceitful. I'm looking for people with similar interests as mine. And at the end of the day, if two people are getting together and having some fun, I don't see a problem with it. So I know the title is pretty raw, it's pretty crass. But if a person, if a woman's out there and she is looking for that long term relationship, there's a good chance that she's not going to be getting an email from me.
C
Okay? And what we're going to ask the women of the show to do here too, because there are three women on the show is we're going to ask them to not be part of this conversation for, like, three minutes. Say whatever you want, but we just sort of know because of the character of the women on her show that they're gonna be reeling to get at you. So we're giving you three minutes.
D
You don't know that, Melissa.
F
I'm just saying we've been working with
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each other for eight years.
E
Yeah, Just for the record.
C
Come on.
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And Jeff certified our siblings. Come on. Just so you know, get at anybody.
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I could have told you that you would feign protest when Bert said that. That's how. Well, I knew how you were going to react.
G
What do you mean?
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We're not gonna attack the man.
F
We're just gonna give our opinion. But we will be quiet for three minutes.
C
All right, Beaver, on your website, although you say, hey, look, the rules for hooking up and having sex on the Internet are pretty much the same as if you're looking for somebody long term. From your website, there's a picture of Beaver, and it says, Beaver Phillips is a 10 year veteran of the online dating scene. Over the years, he has refined a system which has allowed him to bang a steady stream of ass.
D
I'm with you. Go ahead.
F
He's like, yeah, and.
C
All right, so, I mean, here.
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Shh.
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Jack, don't talk.
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You're not even here, woman.
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Sorry, you guys can't do it.
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So I just want to establish some honesty here, that this book really is more for hooking up and having sex than it is long term relationships.
D
Yes and no. And the reason I say no is because there are certain basic principles and concepts that are going to work for any individual regarding, you know, regardless of whatever you're seeking. So again, I wrote this based on my perspective. We look at the divorce rate today. I believe it's 53% in my mind. You know, think twice if you're looking for the marriage and stuff like that. So again, that's not me. However, even if you are maybe looking for a long term deal, I'm sure the basic concepts and principles are going to work for you too.
C
All right, so let me ask you this then. If we were trying to expose a guy like you, how would a woman know that a guy is interested in her online just for sex and not a long term relationship?
D
Good question. And I think there's things that, as you read through the book, there's red flags that would jump out at an individual being, hey, maybe I want to stay away from this guy. But again, I'm not targeting people that are looking for that long term deal as I go through a woman's profile. Well, let me give you for instance, I use two websites. Do you want me to say the names of them?
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Sure, sure.
D
Okay. The first one is a free one and it's called plentyoffish.com and the second one is a pay site and I'm sure you've heard of it, it's called match.com. of course, yeah, those are the two that I use and I talk about some other ones and I tell my readers, listen, save your time, save your money, stay away from them. But let's take that free one, plenty of fish for a second on there you have a choice as to what you're looking for and they've got a drop down menu with everything from long term relationship to an intimate encounter and everything in between. So again, if she is looking for that long term deal, I'm not. Even though I'm going to send her a copy and pasted email, I wouldn't bother. Again, I'm only looking for women that share similar interests. Maybe she just got out of a long term deal, isn't looking to jump back in with both feet and just wants to date and have some fun. That's my kind of girl. So what you're saying I'm not tricking people.
C
So what you're saying is if there are women out online that are there just for sex, then it's pretty easy to see.
D
Well, not if, because there are plenty of women out there that are looking to just have a good time. I mean, you've got people from all facets all across the board. So again, I'm looking to connect with like minded individuals.
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And how would you address women who may in the very, very near future on this show confront you and say that what you're doing is unfair to the women who are signing up for the site for a more legitimate purpose?
D
Well, I would probably, you know, certainly want to hear their input on it. But again, I know for a fact that there are women out there that are just looking to have some fun. And so I would say, you know, is there really anything wrong with it? I don't believe there is. You got two consenting adults that make sound judgment and decisions and things like that. And really at the end of the day, if two people do connect and they hook up, show me the problem with that. I just, you know, so I'll argue my point, but certainly I look forward to getting everyone's thoughts on it.
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All right, your free fly zone is over. Here come the winner.
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Has it been three minutes yet?
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It has.
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Okay, so I don't really quite understand what your website does. A guy can go to the website and copy and paste things you have pre written because that's the name of a copy. Paste and bang.
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No, I'm glad you brought that up because that's one of the things that I do talk about in the book. I didn't hold anything back. I put in this book exactly what I copy and paste to women. But I also advise, listen, here's what I do. If you do exactly what I do, before you know it, there's 50,000 other people in your city sending out the exact same thing. So it's kind of like being at a party, but telling a joke to a group of five people, but they already heard the joke, it's not so funny anymore. So I strongly encourage my readers, you know, here's what I do, here's some sample ideas, but you know, be original, Try and come up with your own stuff.
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All right. And again, under the heading of what you learn from the book, he writes, I've been meeting women via the Internet and sport effing for over 10 years. Let my years of experience work for you. But what he's saying is there are women out there that are doing the same thing.
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Sport. Did you ever think you would have so much in common with Tiger Woods?
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No, I didn't. It's been amazing watching the news on that.
C
So you're again now I don't have the book in front of me, so I don't know if you're BSing or not, but you're saying don't be deceiving like women, you don't even need to be deceiving. If you're looking for a one night stand or you're looking for something physical, there are women there, there are websites there that you can go to.
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No question. Absolutely, 100%.
F
And do you tell these women your intention?
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My email is dear hot blonde for you. It's not, I would really like to bang you again. I start with humor and try and get some dialogue going, some funny stuff. And here's what happens, really. The Internet dating will allow me to exchange some emails and hopefully get a phone number. And then once I'm talking to her on the phone, that's really, no pun intended, where the rubber meets the road, because I'll be throwing out some sexy talk, if you will. And if she's not saying what I was hoping to hear, then I'll just try and end it and I don't want to again, if we're not on the same page, we're not on the same page. So I may say something like, listen, you seem like a great person. I'm sure you're going to find what you're seeking. I'm not convinced we're a great match, but, you know, it was nice talking with you and I wish you all the best. Again, by the time we get around to meeting in person, it's pretty much been established what we're both looking for. And there's no trickery here.
E
Percentage wise. Out of the women you get on the phone, how many of them do you really put the rubber on the road or whatever?
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I would say for every 10 people that I talk to on the phone, I only end up meeting one or two in person. So 20%. 15. 20%.
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Okay. And of the one or two that you meet in person, how many of those do you seal the deal with?
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About 90%.
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Yeah, it's no different than, you know, like dudes that used to be in my group that would go out into a bar and. And they would flat out tell. They'd play the numbers. You tell 15 women exactly what you want, immediately 14 of them are going to be totally turned off and tell you to get lost. But one woman is going to say, cool, and that's all you need is one for the night.
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It's the exact same thing. It's percentages. But one of the things I do in copy paste and bang is a huge comparison, traditional dating versus Internet dating. And really I don't think there is a comparison because when I talk about traditional dating, I kind of reference the bar scene. That's tough stuff to walk up to women and approach. And this has happened to me. I've gone up to a woman to say hello and she's looked at me and said, I don't think so. That's tough. I'm no Brad Pitt. I'm more like the Pitt. So it's hard for a guy. And that's the beauty of the Internet dating. Her rejection is she doesn't reply to your email. Well, big, big deal. You just copy and paste some more emails. So it's very similar, though. You're right. It is kind of a numbers game. And again, I know that not everybody out there is looking for what I'm looking for. I get that. I completely understand.
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Here is Nicole. She wants to be on the voice disguiser. Hey, Nicole.
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Good morning, Burshell.
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Good morning.
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We can't recognize you.
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I love you guys, thank you. I just wanted to say that I am one of the girls that loves not being in a relationship. Currently, I'm in a relationship with a guy where I started out saying, this is just gonna be sex or a fling or whatever. And the more we got into it, the more he wanted a relationship. And that was aggravating to me. I totally. I mean, like, he's nice or whatever, but I'm not, like, super, super attracted to him. His personality kind of gets on the nerves. He's sometimes a little immature, and so I. I'm having a hard time. I'm ready to stop talking to him just because I don't want to date him. I don't want to be in a relationship with him. So I think the just sex thing is great.
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And I think what Beaver is saying here is that there are plenty of women online that are just like. I mean, it's more and more common now to talk about this, that guys have needs and women have needs, and women outside the voice disguiser are. Are becoming more comfortable with just saying, you know what? It's an even playing field now.
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If guys only target those girls, then I think it works. But if you're target targeting another woman who's not in for that, then it doesn't work. There's nothing to attack. I mean, I think it's so funny that you thought we would go off, but, I mean, I thought it was
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gonna be a lot of deception at first, but there's no deception here.
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Yeah, if you're being honest, who cares? Consenting adults. And like you said, he's playing the numbers. And I think women should learn from that too. I mean, I do think women can learn to meet men on the Internet by playing the numbers too. You know, if one guy doesn't write you back, then send out 15 more. Right.
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Don't obsess over that one dude.
F
Exactly. I think women do that, and they'll focus on one guy's perfect profile, one guy's perfect picture, and just be, like, all waiting for him to write back or something. It's just like, put it out there and see what happens. You're not gonna know until you meet him in person. Anyway.
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Two quick things, if I may. Number one is I've had a lot of female readers that have also read the book, and I've gotten great feedback. If anybody goes to the website, they can go to the blog section and see it. People are reading about it. But the point I wanted to make is there are a ton of women out there. On these Internet dating websites and whether you're a guy or a girl or you're bi or straight or gay or metro, you've got competition out there. And one of the things in the book, because I'm not blessed with those good looks, you've got to figure out ways to separate yourself from the competition. So again, I think it's going to be beneficial for anyone. Number two, is that Nicole still on the line?
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She is not. Hey Melissa, go ahead, you're on Q100.
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Hey, good morning guys. I just kind of wanted to back up what Nicole was saying. I mean, I'm in the same situation. I don't want to spend hours and hours dating people only to find out we're not sexually compatible. If you're only out there for sex. All of us don't want to be married and with husbands and all of those other types of things, we just want to kind of hook up, do our thing and move along as well. Therefore it's kind of the same thing. You kind of type in what you're interested in but and kind of wait to see what response you get. But generally the women don't really have to send emails out. We're generally the ones receiving them. So we can just kind of filter through, you know, each one of the guys and see the ones that we're interested in responding to. And I mean, it's much quicker to get down to business than it is, like I said, going to bars or meeting people and dating. And if you're only interested in sex only to find out you're not sexually compatible. So it's a very quick way to filter out, you know, that person has the same sexual interests that you have and is interested in, you know, not having a relationship or having a relationship or whatever. It just makes it so much easier.
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Hey beaver, are there beaver? Are there some women that just send out the wrong message like they don't realize what you want yet they're sending you the wrong message because they're using the wrong wording in their emails or whatever.
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Yeah, I think so. I believe in a lot of it too is some of the pictures that they put on there. That's one thing that I'll look for is not necessarily as far as her looks, but what types of pictures does she have posted? If they're these party girl pictures where she's, you know, wearing a lot of low cut shirts and bikini pictures and she's always got a drink in her hand, she's kind of sending out that message, hey, you know I'm a wild one. I'm a party one. And there's other things I look for. It's not just the types of photos, but yeah, I think some people do get in trouble, unaware. They're unaware of kind of the message they're sending out. I gotta say this, though. I am loving your callers that.
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Melissa, you need to start putting Atlanta in your search.
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You know, what we need to do is we need to have everybody who comes on the air with them has to start with their screen name. Like, do you want to give out your plenty of fish screen name?
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I would love to. It's thebe 407 2000.
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Thebe 407 2000. You know, and here's the beauty is that anybody that emails him knows what his intention is. So he hits on a 100% level.
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Absolutely.
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And if you're hitting it 100%, that means you've got some experience, so you might actually be good at it.
D
This is great. I mean, sometimes I get some real bitter. Betty's calling in, yelling and screaming at me. But you're a listening audience. So far, your callers have been wonderful.
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We're very sexually liberal down here.
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Hey, Patty, go ahead. You're on the voice disguiser.
G
Well, what I was going to say is that I actually do both types of Internet dating. I sort of maintain two completely different online Personas. One is very traditional, very me. You know, long term dating would love to find somebody wonderful. But I also do the short term. Here's what I want. Very specific. You know, it can be short term one night, or it can even be ongoing, but just purely physical and never the two shall meet.
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Beaver.
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Well, the only thing that comes to my mind, as long as you're being honest and if you've got these two separate ones, are you being 100% honest in each different profile?
C
Yeah. Look at Beaver sticking up for the guys. Now, you don't want to be deceiving to the guys.
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No, 100%.
G
I never meet somebody on a date. Not to be blunt, but the speed of which we hit the bedroom is very different on both sides.
C
And do you use two different websites for that?
G
Yes, absolutely.
C
Which is the more physical website and which is the. I'm not looking for the physical website.
G
Match and Craigslist are physical. Mm. Like eharmony. Eharmony is really the other online.
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Craigslist isn't even question. Craigslist is like, dress up like a cop and pretend arrest me.
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Spit cheese on my shoes.
D
Right. Oh, my God.
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Be some oozing involved in the Craigslist posting.
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Yeah, see, I'm not gonna get mad at Beaver, but I'll get mad at you.
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Save that, because that'll have completely different. Completely different meaning coming from Melissa, and
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that is 100% honest.
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Well played, Mr. Weiss.
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Hey, Christian, go ahead. You're on the voice disguiser.
G
I just wanted to agree with. With everything that he's saying. I remember when I was younger that I definitely did that. And there are definitely women out there who definitely go out on the Internet and they know what they want, they know what they're looking for, and they get it. And I don't necessarily think it's wrong now. I'm also happily married now, you know, so I definitely don't do that kind of stuff anymore. More of, you know, a full time, you know, relationship. You know, I've been in this relationship with this guy for the past three years. You just got married. But I definitely agree that there are women out there who do this. And, you know, if that's their thing, that's their thing. I don't think there's, you know, anything wrong with it. As long as they're kind of putting it out there, this is what they want and not kind of beating around the bush, you know. And I had friends, too, when I was in high school who went out and would blatantly, you know, on the Internet, meet up with guys and get it done and never talk to them again, you know, So I. I don't, you know, disagree with anything that you're saying. And if that's what you do, you know, there are definitely women out there who do the same thing.
C
Hey, Beaver, you were saying that there are a couple of different things you said specifically, you target women with profile pictures that are a little bit more sexy, a little more party. And you said there are a couple of other things you look for also, but you sort of breezed right over those. Can you give us a couple more of those?
D
Yeah, sure. A couple things maybe. Because each time when you do sign up for one of these Internet dating websites, you've got to come up with, like a screen name on there. If she's got something. I'm just pulling this off the top of my head, but something like seeking future husband or something like that, that's kind of going to be a deterrent. Whereas if she's got booty call for you or something like that, you know, that's a green light for me. You know, it's funny, I was just listening to that caller. I know she Was struggling to say the word beaver, which isn't my real name. It's Steve. But I had some family members when they found out I was writing this book, they're like, please don't use real name. And that's been my nickname since I was three. So that explains the whole beaver thing. But, you know, and then the caller said something about, you know, when she was back in high school, she had some friends that would go out doing this. And I'm 37, so I'm thinking, man, am I ever gonna grow up? Probably not.
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Probably not.
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Not if you're using the name beaver. No, you're not.
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Right?
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Has anybody ever told you you sound like Seth Rogen from knocked up?
D
No, I haven't heard that.
F
I feel like we've been having the conversation this whole time with the dude from knocked Up. He'd have the start across from Katherine Heigl.
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Jen clearly wants to have sex with you.
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No, actually, that works. Jen, you coming to Orlando anytime soon?
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No, sorry.
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You can look her up on Sexy Jen Doomy.
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Yeah. Conversely, you're talking about the women's screen names. And just a heads up to the ladies, if the guy you're talking to has beaver in his name, I'm pretty sure he's gonna want the sex.
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Hey, Beaver, the name of the book again is copy paste and bang. What he basically does is tell you, look, if you want to hook up on the Internet women, you're giving out a vibe to let guys know you want to hook up. And guys, if you're clueless about it, here's a book that can tell you exactly what the signs are to look for, Right? All right, dude. Appreciate your time, ma'.
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Am.
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Hey, thanks, guys. I really appreciate you having me on the show. One last thing. I don't know if you'd be interested, but if you've got maybe some listeners out there, certainly if there's some guy listeners, they would like to put the book to the test, I'd be more than happy to get that person a free copy, have them read it, and kind of coach them through how to set up a profile and things like that, and we can get back on the air in a couple weeks. Again, if you're interested, talk about their successes, because this book is idiot proof. A guy's not gonna fail if he reads it. It works.
C
Let me put you on hold. I just don't know how I feel about endorsing guys going online and checking back in with them if they had sex.
D
Well, we can't.
F
Well, he took the callers. The women are open to it.
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Yeah, women are open to it.
C
There's just as many women there. I wonder what would happen if a woman Read the book, Bert.
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We can do it. Here's how I'm gonna get Bert to do it.
F
Okay.
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We pick the guy and it has to be a guy who would struggle to meet a girl.
F
Yeah.
C
Otherwise. And then we get why don't we both kick out of our own pool?
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We ain't putting me in that position with any of my friends.
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In this episode, The Bert Show welcomes "Beaver Phillips," author of the book and website Copy, Paste and Bang, a straightforward, controversial guide for men seeking casual sex via internet dating. The cast navigates this delicate topic with their signature blend of candor and humor, inviting both tough questions and listener perspectives. Together, they debate the ethics of online dating for sex, how upfront people should be about their intentions, and whether tools like Beaver's are helpful or harmful. The episode strives to inform female listeners about the mindset and tactics some men employ online, while also exploring the evolving dynamics of modern dating.
"I'm not out there being deceitful. I'm looking for people with similar interests as mine." ([03:26])
"Chapter four is called 'Lying equals too much work.'" ([03:26])
"Here's what I do, here's some sample ideas, but you know, be original. Try and come up with your own stuff." ([09:03])
The book gives sample messages but cautions against using them verbatim to avoid repetition in the dating pool.
"For every ten people that I talk to on the phone, I only end up meeting one or two in person… Of the one or two, about 90% [seal the deal]." ([11:33])
"If you're being honest, who cares? Consenting adults." ([14:21], female cast member)
| Timestamp | Topic | |-----------|-------| | 03:12 | Beaver Phillips joins and introduces his book & philosophy | | 05:37 | Clarifies overlap between casual and long-term dating advice | | 06:47 | Websites used: PlentyOfFish, Match.com | | 09:03 | Copy/paste approach explained; encourages originality | | 11:33 | "Numbers game": success rates from calls to hookups | | 13:06 | First caller (Nicole): women want casual experiences too | | 14:21 | Female cast support: honesty and consent over stigma | | 15:41 | Melissa: efficiency for women seeking sex | | 16:56 | How profiles/pics signal sexual openness | | 18:27 | Callers discuss running separate dating personas online | | 21:41 | Beaver describes how he reads profiles/screen names | | 23:05 | Cast jokes about screen names ("if it says 'beaver'...") | | 23:35 | Cast debates whether to road-test Beaver’s book with a listener |
This episode offers a frank, sometimes comedic look at the world of online dating and casual sex, led by a controversial guest who claims to have "hacked" the system. The Bert Show balances skepticism with curiosity, facilitating a dialogue about honesty, agency, gender equality, and changing dating norms. Listeners (including multiple women) largely reinforce Beaver's claims: in 2026, casual hookups are not just for men, and consent plus clarity are what matter most.
For those navigating online dating themselves, the episode encourages:
The conversation remains insightful, light-hearted, and grounded in real-world dating realities, making it valuable for both online dating veterans and newcomers alike.