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Bert (Host)
Good morning, Crystal.
Crystal (Caller)
Good morning.
Bert (Host)
Hey, how are you?
Crystal (Caller)
I am good. How are you guys doing?
Bert (Host)
Great. Now, is your boyfriend on with us also?
Crystal (Caller)
He should be. Tracy was calling him Jason.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
Jason.
Jason (Crystal's Boyfriend)
Hey.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
Hey.
Jen (Co-host or Contributor)
Is this the boyfriend?
Bert (Host)
This is the boyfriend right here.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
Okay.
Bert (Host)
All right. At first, it's kind of shocking to hear, and at first it sounds kind of mean to hear also, Crystal, that he's holding out and he's not shaving until you lose £50.
Crystal (Caller)
Yes, £50.
Bert (Host)
You want to give us a little history on this?
Jen (Co-host or Contributor)
Just amputate your leg.
Crystal (Caller)
Well, I always am complaining about my weight, too. For the past almost two years now. I'm always complaining, honey, I'm fat. I'm fat. I need to do something about it. I got to do something about it. And I've tried. I've tried. I'm still paying for weight loss diet programs, and I'm not doing anything about it. And I need some motivation. And he came up with, well, I'm gonna shave my face since you hate when I'm not clean cut. So I'm just not gonna shave my face. And he doesn't care how he looks with his goatee. It is fine. He will grow it down to his knees. He does not care. And so he wants to use that as motivation so that I can be happy with myself.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
So, Jason, is it a case where Crystal has, like she just said, I mean, it's all the time. Like, every time she's changing clothes before you go out, before she goes to bed, when she gets up, and you're like, honey, you're fine, but you're not happy, so you just. Why don't you just do something about it and be happy? Is it that. Is it like that?
Jason (Crystal's Boyfriend)
Yeah, that's exactly what it is. You know, I mean, I think she's beautiful and everything, but, you know, when somebody continuously tells you all the time they're not happy with themselves, you know, I just felt like that's the only way I can help her out by trying to motivate her like that.
Bert (Host)
So, Crystal, you've obviously complained to Jason about the beard at one point or another, that you absolutely hate it.
Crystal (Caller)
All the time. Every time we go see my family, honey, you gotta shave. You gotta shave.
Bert (Host)
And how long have you gone now, Jason, without shaving?
Jason (Crystal's Boyfriend)
Right now? It's been about two weeks.
Guest or Co-host
Okay.
Bert (Host)
How's he look.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
Crystal?
Crystal (Caller)
He's a bear.
Bert (Host)
You hate it?
Crystal (Caller)
I hate it. I've tried to get him to shave it completely off, but he doesn't like that at all. So I'm compromising.
Bert (Host)
Is it motivating you at all?
Crystal (Caller)
It is now, since we just pretty much made that bet, I'm ready to go. The only problem is I don't know how to work out. I'm so dumb on that area. I walk into a gym. I've got a gym membership. I went and got one, and I canceled it because I walk in and there's all these machines, and I have no idea what to do with them. And I'll ask the people there, and they just look at me like, well, you know, watch these people or watch them do it like this. I'm like, okay, that's fine. I'll get home about it. And like, oh, there's this whole other breathing technique you have to do. And I get so confused.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
Well, a gym is an intimidating. Like, I'm not a gym person. And I just think a gym is intimidating if you aren't somebody who knows how to use the machines or what machines to use or what machine does what to what. And I mean, it is, like, not. And no offense to any gym because, you know, there's plenty of gym people out there. I'm one of the few. But it is not this welcoming place for people who don't know what they're doing.
Jen (Co-host or Contributor)
You make it sound like a torture chamber, that machine. You don't know what that one does to what? Get on that one. Wrong. You rip your arm right off.
Bert (Host)
Well, it is like you sort of feel like the people that are there working are there to get your money and get your commission and then you're on your own.
Crystal (Caller)
Exactly. And I hired a personal trainer and she was $40 for every 30 minutes. I was like, wow, this is just outrageous. Especially with gas prices now I can't afford that. So I had to stop. And we only worked out for a little less than a month. And she would tell me, some machines, if you don't do it right, it only is going to make the muscle push the fat out and you're going to look bigger. I don't even want to do this.
Host/Announcer
This is.
Guest or Co-host
Hey, Crystal, you know what this sounds like? What A long list of excuses for not working out.
Crystal (Caller)
It is excuses.
Guest or Co-host
It is.
Crystal (Caller)
And I've got to stop, stop making them. And I've been reading books.
Guest or Co-host
You don't have to work out with the trainer. You don't necessarily even have to work out at the gym.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
You just gotta exercise. You go outside and walk around the block.
Bert (Host)
And I mean, if you do have the gym membership, a lot of those machines you're talking about have the instructions on the side and they also tell you like if you're on the treadmill and it tells you exactly where your heart rate needs to be for you toto be in that fat burning zone. So you can't really use that stuff as an excuse.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
Oh, you wanna go to the gym and then be the person to stand next to the machine?
Bert (Host)
No, it's right on the machine. It's right on. So as you walk in there, yeah, you can look at it.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
I know it's intimidating, but just don't.
Guest or Co-host
Allow that to be your excuse not to exercise. So if you hate the gym or you're intimidated by it, go somewhere else, you know, work out doing something else or you know, do stuff at home or attend an aerobics class where there's an instructor in front of the class teaching you how to do it. So there's other options. I just wanna see you be successful and that your boyfriend does too.
Crystal (Caller)
Right. And it's just, it's just hard because I don't really know how. I mean, I can walk around the block, that's fine, but I, I just wish there was some other way to get it off faster. If I walk around the block, how, how good is that going to be?
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
I'm starting to side with Jen a little bit here because you can walk around the block and then you walk a little further next time and you walk a little for like my Girlfriend is training for the P shoe right now, and all she does is she walks out the front door and she goes and runs and then she comes back and then she's done. And then she runs a little further night, then a little further the next night. She doesn't go to a gym or hire anybody to do it. And I think that just by the language of how do I get this off as fast as possible? Like, you have to learn to live your life to where you do exercise regularly and you do eat and then it comes off. But if you're trying to do let me lose £50 really quickly, I'm afraid that you're not going to keep it off.
Bert (Host)
You're lazy about it. Why don't you really want to lose the weight?
Crystal (Caller)
I do a really, really bad one to lose weight. I think just lately I have been really lazy about it and stressed out with other. With other things, and I really just haven't done anything about it. Pretty much let myself go and make excuses and excuses and then I want to know how to eat right and exactly. I've never had to before except these past two years or three years. I've just been gaining and gaining and gaining.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
But Bird, see, what happens is if you complain about it long enough and all of a sudden it comes off with each complaint.
Bert (Host)
Well, you burn calories.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
Yeah, exactly. If you complain long enough, then you get what you want.
Crystal (Caller)
Well, the good news is that easy.
Jen (Co-host or Contributor)
The good news is, is when you are all where. When your boyfriend's looking like Poseidon with the big beard that he has to carry over his shoulder, he won't have any other girl. No girls will talk to him, get.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
Him his Triton and he's good to go.
Jen (Co-host or Contributor)
Hello, I am lord of the deep, and this is my fat.
Crystal (Caller)
He doesn't care what he looks like. He's like, well, I got a girlfriend. I don't care.
Guest or Co-host
It's just, it's. It's hard work to lose weight, you know, it's hard work to change your lifestyle. You don't just. It doesn't just happen. You have to really dedicate all this time and carve out places in your schedule to go to the gym. It doesn't just happen. You know what I mean?
Crystal (Caller)
I think what it is, I just feel so overwhelmed. Like, I'll go on my lunch break or something and get a smoothie and like, do you want soy protein or whey protein? I have no idea. Just pick a protein.
Guest or Co-host
You know what?
Bert (Host)
There are places that you can. But you know, this I mean, there's a little place called the Internet that is pretty good at educating you on stuff. So if you really wanted to find out, you could find out if soy or whey is right for you and exactly how many calories you're supposed to be.
Guest or Co-host
Or if you're. I mean, or if you're, you know, really trying to lose weight and cut back. Then you drink water and not smoothies in the afternoon. Right, Right.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
Or if you're somebody who is intimidated just by the whole. I mean, I say intimidated, I'm sorry, using it as a reason not to do it, by saying, I don't want to go on the Internet, Burton. I don't want to do the research and I don't want to go to the gym. I mean, just. I mean, it is pretty easy. Like, you know, eat fruit and vegetables. That's real easy. You know, if you're. You know what you're eating and you know, what. What's not right? What's good that you're eating.
Bert (Host)
I mean, fruits and vegetables is a given. But a lot of people still don't know, like, about carbs and what carbs you can.
Crystal (Caller)
Yeah, exactly.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
Do you eat desserts?
Crystal (Caller)
I do sometimes.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
That's bad for you.
Crystal (Caller)
There's always birthdays around. Every day there's somebody's birthday.
Guest or Co-host
Yeah.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
Just say, okay, so you deserve this. Bad for you. Do you drink a lot of alcohol?
Crystal (Caller)
No, not really. I don't drink through the week.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
Not too bad. Okay. Do you eat a lot of bread?
Crystal (Caller)
Yeah.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
Okay, that's bad for you.
Crystal (Caller)
It's a weakness.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
Yeah. So what I'm saying, there's a whole bunch of them. That's easy. If you cut down on the bread and cut out the desserts and walk and drink a lot of water, like Jen said, you'll start losing weight.
Jen (Co-host or Contributor)
Do you ever make a brownie sandwich?
Guest or Co-host
What's in the middle of that brownie?
Bert (Host)
You haven't even tried. But we'll take calls like this from time to time. And then we get the more harsh calls that come in right after yours that will say, lose the weight. You're not even trying. You're complaining about it. You hate the way you look and you're beating yourself up, but you're doing zero about it. So you're not a very sympathetic character because you're not even trying to.
Guest or Co-host
And the reason a lot of people do. I'm sorry. A lot of people do try very hard and then reach that plateau. So if you were in that stage right now, I would be sympathetic to you, if you were like, okay, I lost 10. Now I've reached this plateau and I can't get any more. I need help on figuring it out, then that's a real issue to address. And that might take an expert, but we're not experts here.
Jen (Co-host or Contributor)
I think that's my problem. I think I've plateaued.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
Yeah. The reason, Crystal, that I'm kind of pushing you along or nudging you is because I. That I understand that, like, I may not be where I want to be, but I know, guess what? I'm eating the bread and I'm eating the desserts, and it's my responsibility for being at whatever weight I am.
Crystal (Caller)
Really, what I want to know is how do I cut back on those cravings? I crave them and crave them, and I'll get home, I'll eat my lunch at noon. I'll get home, and I'm starving, and I don't come till 6:30 every night, and I want to cook something, but I'm so tired.
Bert (Host)
Well, you're allowed to eat. You just have to eat the right thing. So if you're hungry, eat. But the cravings never go away. Like I told these guys, somebody brought McDonald's in here a couple of weeks ago, and I'm pretty good about my diet, and I try to stay lean. Somebody brought McDonald's in here, and the hash brown won. I lost. The cravings never go away, and it's still. I can sort of regurgitate and taste it again. They just never go away. But you have to be disciplined, and you have zero discipline.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
Yeah. I had to confess to Kati last night because I've said before on here, I have. What do we call it when I have food? Infidelity. When it comes to my relationship with my girlfriend, because she is this fit person who, you know, runs and does the exercise and always active and all this stuff, and. And I'm the one who's not. And so I drove by, and I was driving in an area of town near Alpharetta where I had not been before, running an errand. And there was this. This place called. I think it was called Pamela's Chocolate in the shopping center.
Guest or Co-host
Oh, that's like your Mecca. I was a magnet.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
I turned around, yeah. And I went in there and I shopped at Pamela's Chocolates. So, you know, and it's my fault. Like, any calories I took in or any weight I may gain from that is my fault. So.
Bert (Host)
Hey, Corey, you're on Q100.
Jason (Crystal's Boyfriend)
Hey, Bert, how you doing, man?
Bert (Host)
Okay. You must be a guy that wants to.
Jason (Crystal's Boyfriend)
I know D. I used to actually train over at Gym of a Buckhead, so I run into you guys a couple times.
Jen (Co-host or Contributor)
Okay.
Bert (Host)
He's talking about my friend Dolvett that has a gym also.
Jason (Crystal's Boyfriend)
Yes, yes. Very cool guy.
Bert (Host)
What's up?
Jason (Crystal's Boyfriend)
Well, I wanted to give this caller some information. I'm the CEO of a company called My Body Beats. It's like when you're saying my heartbeats, but it's My Body Beats I created about two years ago and been working on it, and we're about to do a full launch, but it's downloadable workouts by professional athletes. And so the idea came from just like this college. She probably looks in a magazine or her husband looks at it and says, I want to look just like that girl right there. And a lot of people don't. A lot of people don't, but they just want to get in condition. Well, if you want to look like a pro, you train like one. And that's what they came up the idea with and what you do is you go to the site, look at a workout, and it's a la carte. If you want to work your thighs, your butt, your arms, you pick out what you want from any professional athlete out there, you download it, and she's your trainer or he's your trainer for the rest of your life.
Bert (Host)
It's a great idea.
Jason (Crystal's Boyfriend)
Bodybeats.com mybodybeats.com my b o d y b e a t s dot com. We have blogs out there. You're talking about diets, stuff like that. A friend of mine just went out there and said, hey, can I eat chicken salad? Well, my wife, which is part of the marketing, she put a blog out there. Do you really want to know why you don't want to eat chicken salad? And this came from some of the pros. The pros will blog you. I'm getting them involved and actually going to be getting NFL football players, possibly Maria Shapova, Gabrielle Reese, some other people. So it's going to keep growing and it's lots of fun.
Bert (Host)
All right, Gotcha. Corey. Thank you. I mean, the point he's making is if you want the information, it's out there, I think. I mean, it's definitely out there. But you haven't gotten aggressive about really getting serious about it. And I think you're right. At first, I thought your boyfriend was doing a disservice to you. I actually think you're doing a disservice.
Guest or Co-host
To Him, I understand where he got frustrated and said, I'm just not gonna shave my beard anymore. But Crystal, here's the deal with any.
Jen (Co-host or Contributor)
You wanted it to did it.
Guest or Co-host
Crystal, here's the deal with anything.
Crystal (Caller)
I need it. I need all of this. So that way it motivates me more and I don't make excuses.
Guest or Co-host
Nobody else can motivate you but you.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
You're not.
Guest or Co-host
You don't want to change away. It's you changing your mind about it. All that's all it's going to take is you getting it in your head and you changing your mind about it. Once you change your mind about it and get your head around what you want, that's what you go get.
Bert (Host)
You know, in your email you said your 10 year high school reunion is coming up.
Crystal (Caller)
Yeah, Next year.
Bert (Host)
Next year. And you have. How much weight do you want to lose before that?
Crystal (Caller)
Around 50 to 60.
Bert (Host)
We could do a motivation by humiliation. This is like the perfect example. Jason says, please, this is the perfect. Do you know how that works?
Crystal (Caller)
I'm already a spaz.
Guest or Co-host
I don't think that we sign her up until she says she's changed her mind because I'm starting to get frustrated with it.
Bert (Host)
Well, this might be the thing that would motivate her actually to get off her butt and do it.
Guest or Co-host
It could.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
I don't know.
Bert (Host)
I mean, because the picture goes up if she doesn't reach the goal weight. The picture goes up.
Crystal (Caller)
Oh, no, I want you to put the picture up because I know that, you know what, I don't want the whole world to see me like that. And I want to be able to show them that I can do it.
Bert (Host)
Let me explain how it goes before you commit is you would come in here or we would set you up at a gym or whatever and they would take a picture of you in like, let's say a bikini. Okay. And then if you don't reach your goal weight, which would be a year and £50, then that picture goes up.
Guest or Co-host
Online.
Jen (Co-host or Contributor)
And your boyfriend gets to shave so people won't confuse him with Jesus anymore.
Crystal (Caller)
I fit into a bikini top. I have two school buses I carry around up there.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
I don't. You know what the thing is though, Crystal, I gotta be honest with you that I think that if you agree to do this, that your picture's going.
Bert (Host)
Up if she doesn't change her ways. But that picture may be just the thing to get her into a gym.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
And actually I don't think it's gonna work.
Bert (Host)
So basically what you would do is.
Jen (Co-host or Contributor)
You would walk into the gym, they would give you the safe weight that you can lose by the time of your next high school reunion. Then they would take a picture of you in the buses and provide that. They would give that to Tracy like on a cd. And Tracy, we would lock it away and nobody would look at it. And they would tell us what the goal weight is and then we would check in with you every month or so between now and then. If you hit that goal weight, all's good and it might not be the full 50 or 60 pounds, it'll be a safe weight is determined by professionals.
Bert (Host)
If you don't, 50 in a year is doable. If you do that, very, very, very doable.
Jen (Co-host or Contributor)
If you don't do that, then the picture goes up and everybody gets to see your buses.
Jason (Crystal's Boyfriend)
That's a good idea.
Bert (Host)
He likes it. You want to wait 24 hours and think about it because this is severe.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
I think you should, because the reason is if there's some going exactly what Ungen said, if there was a, if there was some piece of clothing, if there was a gadget, if there's anything you wanted, you know, you really wanted, you'd get it, you'd work for it, you'd go out of your way to go drive and get it, whatever. But you're not, you don't want to lose this weight because you would be doing it.
Guest or Co-host
You just gotta get your head in the right space for it. But I will say that when we did the motivation by humiliation last year and I was either, you know, we were doing the bathing suit pictures either alone or in a group at the end of it all, I will say on the days I did not feel like going to the gym and I was coming up with the, you know, mile long list of experience, like, oh, well, I really should check more email or oh, I really should stay home and do this or that, the other thing, the threat of that picture did get me back in there, back on that elliptical or on the treadmill or whatever else. So I've experienced it before. And even when you have the best intentions, sometimes through the middle of it, you can get lazy. And that picture helped me not get lazy.
Bert (Host)
And I can confirm that also. I mean that public accountability is everything. A couple of years ago when I did that, the picture for the website without my shirt on, I was in that gym busting my ass every single day because I knew everybody was gonna be looking at it and I wanted to look good for it. And that public accountability changed everything. I was watching what I was eating. I was working out every day. It is a great motivational tool, but you have to follow the rules. And if you don't make it, that picture goes up. You haven't said one thing over the last 15 minutes to make any of us think that you really want to lose this weight.
Crystal (Caller)
I really, really do.
Bert (Host)
That's the only thing you've said, but you haven't proven it. Nothing.
Dolvett (Fitness Expert)
And not to sound harsh, I mean, I don't mean to come across as harsh. I just know that, like, I'm not in the best shape I could be, but I obviously don't want to be or I would be. I mean, serious and. Yeah, because I think once the. Like they're saying, once you decide that, yeah, you know what, I do really want to do this, then you will.
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The Birch show.
Date: February 10, 2026
This episode dives into a unique relationship challenge: Crystal, a listener, shares that her boyfriend Jason refuses to shave until she loses 50 pounds. The Bert Show crew—alongside fitness expert Dolvett—explores the emotional, practical, and motivational complexities of weight loss, personal responsibility, and the pressures (and humor) that come from creative “motivational” tactics.
The conversation is candid, humorous, and at times direct, blending tough love with empathy and plenty of laughter. The Bert Show crew refuses to sugarcoat the realities of weight loss while keeping the mood light and supportive, encouraging Crystal—and listeners—to take responsibility and find their own intrinsic motivation.
This episode provides a realistic (and amusing) look at the hurdles of weight loss, the limits of external motivation, and the sometimes harsh, always honest path to personal change.