Vault: Her Ex Wants The Ring Back To Give To His New Girlfriend - Update

Summary

The Bert Show

Episode: Vault: Her Ex Wants The Ring Back To Give To His New Girlfriend - Update
Date: January 22, 2026
Host: Pionaire Podcasting

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into a real-life dilemma: should someone give her wedding ring back to her ex-husband, who wants to use it to propose to his new girlfriend? The conversation includes Michelle (the original caller), updates on her decision, the show's cast discussing their views, and several listener stories about recycled engagement rings. The discussion is lively, real, and peppered with the Bert Show’s trademark humor and candor.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Situation Recap (00:04 – 02:44)

• Michelle’s Ex-Husband’s Request: Michelle recounts how her ex-husband, after a year divorced and a few months into dating a new girlfriend, requested his old wedding ring back to use for a new proposal.

  • She says: “Having a conversation with him is like pulling teeth... I want to give it to her for Christmas.” (01:41)
  • Michelle points out logistical issues: the wedding and engagement bands are welded together, and her kids would recognize the ring.

• Hosts’ Reactions:

  • Amusement and disbelief at the ex’s audacity.
  • D (panelist) considers it “no problem” but “weird.”
  • Others can’t imagine reusing such a sentimental item, even if under financial duress.
  • Notable quote: "I would rather, like, use a piece of tin foil, something unique than... my ex wife's wedding ring to propose." (00:57, Host B)

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2. Speculation and Predictions (02:44 – 03:42)

• Hosts debate whether Michelle will give the ring back or not.
• Financial considerations come into play: Michelle owes her ex for overpaid child support — could the ring settle this debt?
  • Some hosts urge holding onto the ring to pass down to her daughters.
  • Notable: “She really felt strongly about keeping those rings as a symbol of their marriage that at one time was happy to pass down to her kids.” (03:04, Host A)

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3. Michelle’s Update: Her Solution (03:45 – 07:48)

• Michelle’s Compromise: She meets her ex and offers a compromise — he gets the diamonds, she keeps the ring setting/band.
  • “You can have the diamonds inside the ring, but I want the rest of it back, okay?” (04:00, Michelle)
  • The ex’s girlfriend is reportedly “cool with it.”
• Legal Considerations: Michelle’s stepmother (a paralegal) will draft a document ensuring that, in exchange for the ring’s diamond, the debt is considered paid and any future claims are voided.
  • “If he says, ‘I don’t want to do that,’ I’ll say, ‘Oh, sorry, no deal.’” (06:19, Michelle)
• Sentimental Value: Michelle wants the setting for potential future use by her daughters: “They just love looking at those pictures.” (06:35, Michelle)
• Hosts commend her for a smart, balanced compromise.

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4. Practical Advice: Handling the Diamond (07:48 – 08:37)

• Hosts urge Michelle to control the process: have a jeweler remove the diamond so she keeps the setting and the ex doesn’t “lose” it.
  • “I think I’d take that diamond out myself.” (07:48, Host B)
  • “Drop it off to a jeweler, and then he can pick the diamond up at the jeweler and you pick up the setting.” (07:51, Host C)
  • Appraise and certify the diamond for transparency.
• Notable: “You put that in his hands, it’s gone.” (08:08, Host B)

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5. Listener Call-Ins: Real-Life Ring Re-Use Stories (09:23 – 18:32)

a. Robin’s Story (09:28 – 13:20)

• Recycled Engagement: Robin’s ex-fiancé proposes with his previous fiancée’s ring, who happens to be Robin’s patient at her OB-GYN office.
• The ex-fiancée identifies the ring during a blood draw, leading to major embarrassment.
  • “You know, that was my ring.” (11:02, Robin relaying ex’s words)
  • “I wanted to die. It was embarrassing.” (12:06, Robin)
• Robin gives the ring back and breaks up with her fiancé after he tries to gaslight her.

b. Sydney’s Story (13:27 – 15:30)

• Accepting the Ex’s Ring: Sydney’s husband gives her his ex-wife’s ring due to financial struggles while in school.
  • “I was just happy to get something I didn’t have to buy.” (15:17, Sydney)
• Sydney is unfazed by the ring’s history; some hosts argue they'd prefer any alternative over a reused ring.

c. Nicole’s Story (16:19 – 18:32)

• Club Confrontation: Nicole’s ex-fiancé gives her a ring he previously gave another woman. The ex confronts Nicole in a club, causing a scene.
  • “She comes running over, grabs my hand... ‘This is my ring! I can’t believe you gave this to her!’” (16:40, Nicole)
• Nicole had no idea and breaks up with her fiancé after learning about the recycled ring.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On the Ex’s Request:
  “Having a conversation with him is like pulling teeth... I want to give it to her for Christmas.” – Michelle (01:46)
• On Recycled Rings:
  “I would rather, like, use a piece of tin foil, something unique than... my ex-wife’s wedding ring to propose.” – Host B (00:57)
• On Compromise:
  “At least I’m winning both ways... I can at least keep half the ring, and then he can take what he wants, and that cuts my debt.” – Michelle (05:29)
• On Legal Precaution:
  “I want to have my stepmother... write something up that looks all legal and stuff, saying that... in exchange for the wedding ring, the diamond... he will forego every penny that I owe him.” – Michelle (05:55)
• Listener Embarrassment:
  “I was drawing her blood, and she actually said, you know, that was my ring. And it was very embarrassing because... my coworkers are all there.” – Robin (11:02)
• On Being Practical:
  “I was happy to be with him... and I was just happy to get something I didn’t have to buy.” – Sydney (15:17)
• On Dramatic Reveal:
  “This girl like... screamed out ‘Hell no’ in the middle of the club... tries to fight me in the middle of the club trying to take my ring off.” – Nicole (16:31–16:50)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Michelle’s Original Story Recap: 00:04 – 02:44
• Hosts’ Predictions: 02:44 – 03:42
• Michelle’s Update/Resolution: 03:45 – 07:48
• Advice on Handling the Diamond: 07:48 – 08:37
• Robin’s Call (Ex Exposes Ring at Work): 09:28 – 13:20
• Sydney’s Call (Husband’s Ex-Wife’s Ring): 13:27 – 15:30
• Nicole’s Call (Club Confrontation): 16:19 – 18:32

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Summary and Takeaways

• Compromise is possible: Michelle navigated between sentiment, financial obligation, and practicality, finding an outcome that balances all interests.
• Recycled rings spark strong feelings: Among show hosts and listeners, the concept of using a ring from a previous relationship ranges from “no big deal” to “absolutely not.”
• Transparency matters: As illustrated by the listener stories, surprise or dishonesty about ring histories can lead to embarrassment and relationship trouble.
• Protecting your assets: The hosts encourage getting everything in writing and handling all exchanges through professionals (jewelers, legal documents).
• Listeners relate: The phone lines light up with similar—and often more dramatic—stories, reinforcing the universality of relationship challenges and the audience’s willingness to engage.

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The Bert Show delivers another episode blending honesty, humor, and real-life drama, inviting listeners to weigh in and share their own jaw-dropping experiences over one man’s thrifty (and perhaps tactless) proposal plan.

Transcript

[A]

Get it?

[B]

The bird show. Michelle called us up. I guess it was about a week ago, right?

[C]

It seems longer than that, right?

[B]

Is it two weeks now?

[C]

I'm thinking it was where she had called up because her ex husband, I forget how long they've been married, but her ex husband was asking her for her ring back so he could propose to his new girlfriend.

[B]

Don't you wish there was just some way that you could have cameras on people's lives all the time so we could TiVo that and watch the moment that he asked and see her face and like do a close up because she must have been just like. You're out of your mind. Right?

[C]

I want to go back to when he thought that was a good idea. You know, like Devo even back to when he made the decision with somebody and dude, that's a good idea.

[D]

So not on the same page with you guys.

[B]

You think this is okay?

[D]

I think it's no problem. Look, I mean, the fact that he asked. The fact that he asked me, it's weird because if I was the next girlfriend, I'd be like, what the hell? So that part, but the fact there's any dilemma or whatever, yeah, give him the ring if he's that stupid. There you go.

[C]

Bye.

[B]

Bye. I would rather, like, use a piece of tin foil, something unique than go back and use my. My ex wife's wedding ring to propose. But I guess when you're like, let's just assume the dude's in a total financial bind, right? And there's no way that he can propose, right? And so he's going through any options he has in his mind at all, and this is the only one he can come up with.

[E]

We were, of course, obviously married. We were married for about seven years and things just didn't work out between us. We and I separated and I. And I left him. And finally I get him to sign the divorce papers and we've been divorced for about a year and he just started dating a new girl a couple months ago. And he give. He gave me a call and said, asked if I still had my wedding ring. I said, yes, I do. He says, well, I was wondering if I could have it. I said, okay, what for? He said, oh, well, you know, I'd like to have it. And having a conversation with him is like pulling teeth. I said, okay, what for? Well, for decoration. For who? Well, I want to give it to my girlfriend. I said, why? Well, you know, we love each other and we want to get married and I just don't have the money to go out and get a wedding ring right now, and I want to give it to her for Christmas. And I said, well, I said, you can't give her a wedding ring as an engagement ring because both of the bands are welded together. I said, you can't do that. He said, oh, well, I'll get that unwelded. I said, well, but you can't do that. He says, well, she doesn't have to know. And I said, well, your kids will bust you, because your kids know what it looks like. Oh, no, they won't.

[B]

Okay, so that was a few weeks ago on the Burt show, and we haven't talked to, quote, unquote, Michelle since then. Anybody want to try to make some predictions? Did she sell it back to him or.

[C]

I think she was not very. She was debating whether to do it or not. I would. It wouldn't even be a consideration for me. But I think that she went ahead and gave it back to him because she was already halfway there.

[A]

Well, she did owe him some money because he had paid. He had overpaid child support, and she was supposed to give that back to him. So instead of giving that back to him, she could give the ring in its place. But she really felt strongly about keeping those rings as a symbol of their marriage that at one time was happy to pass down to her kids. So I'm gonna say she is holding onto it.

[B]

Okay, that's my point. And your point was? He overpaid his child support, but it's going to his kids, so why you want it back?

[C]

I mean, it sounds crazy, but that's the law.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, Jeff.

[D]

I think she gave it to him. I think she came around to my side. She's like, you know what? He's gonna be that dumb. Here, take it.

[B]

I'm gonna say she kept it. I think she kept it. Hey, Michelle.

[F]

Hey.

[B]

How are you?

[E]

I'm good. How are you doing?

[B]

Okay.

[C]

So what happened?

[E]

Okay, I never called him, because I said, well, just call him and tell him about it. I thought, nope, I'll just tell it to him face to face. Because he had the girls this weekend. So we always meet at a certain place in downtown. So we went. Walked around Atlantic Station, which was very cool, and walked around there and then went up the girls. I brought my. My whole posse with me. I had my sisters and her friends. So I had my whole posse with me and walked up and, you know, I was saying hello to the girls, and he says, hey, do you have a check for me? I said, No, I said, because what I've decided to do is that you can have the diamonds inside the ring, but I want the rest of it back, okay? Because I thought, well, I'll just give him the whole entire thing. I said, no. I said, because he's going to trash it, throw it away, whatever. I want the rest of it back because I can, you know, later on. I can always put something in it later, or I can always use it for the girls later. Oh, well, that's all I wanted. All I wanted was just the diamond. And she's cool with it because, you know, we discussed it, and she's cool with it.

[B]

So he discussed it with his girlfriend.

[E]

Now he ran it by his girlfriend because he says, well, you know, I just didn't want to leave her in the dark and make her think that, you know, I was trying to pull something. So I just told her and, you know, let her know about it, and she's cool with it. I said, well, all right, long as she's cool with it.

[C]

Well, that's not your response. That's not your problem anyway, you know, But. But I. What, if I recall, didn't one of our Burt show listeners suggest that you do that and split it up? So I think that was a good choice.

[E]

Yes, I did take one of the callers advice. I thought that would probably be the best thing because I. I was very torn. I thought, well, I don't want. I want to give it to him to get rid of that debt. But I thought, well, I don't want to give it to him because I want to hold on to it. So at least I'm. I'm winning both ways. Well, I can at least keep half the ring, and then he could take what he wants, and that cuts my debt.

[B]

All right, so now you say you cut your debt. Is it gone completely now? Are we talking about halfway or.

[E]

It's gone completely. What I'm going to do is I want to have my stepmother. My stepmother isn't a paralegal, so she's going to write something up that looks all legal and stuff, saying that, you know, he. It's in exchange for the wedding ring, the diamond in the wedding ring. He will forego every penny that I owe him, plus the money that I've already paid, come back to me smart. Okay, well, if he says, well, I don't want to do that, I'll say, oh, sorry, no deal.

[B]

And you're.

[E]

I know he wants that ring, that diamond.

[B]

So your feeling is also because you said you had daughters that if they wanted to use this ring in the future, they certainly could. It would. They just need to get a diamond for it.

[E]

Right. And I thought, well, by then, I'm sure they'll. Either one. Whoever. One gets married first, I'll obviously say, you know, whoever gets married first here, you can have this. And if they say, well, no, Mom, I don't want to take it, I'll say, okay, well, I'll just keep it for myself, or I'll make it into something. But I will give them that option to have it if they'd like to have it, because they really like looking through our wedding album and looking at our pictures and stuff. And, oh, yeah, that's when mommy and daddy got married. And they just love looking at those pictures.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Good compromise.

[B]

Yeah, I think it worked out real.

[E]

Well for you, surprisingly. Yeah, it did.

[C]

All right, well, congratulations.

[E]

Thank you.

[A]

One last question, though. Are you having it taken out and you're just gonna give him the diamond? You said something at the start of it of you're gonna want those back, right?

[E]

And I told him, I said, well, you can have the diamond in it, but you're gonna have to give it the rest of it back to me. And I'm gonna have it written down somewhere saying he has to give it back something. Well, he'll just say, okay, yeah, I'll take it and say, oh, well, you know, something happened or I wasn't able to give it back to you. I'm gonna get it in writing saying that he's. He is to give that ring back to me after he takes what he wants out of it.

[B]

Boy, if I were you, I think I'd take that diamond out myself.

[C]

I drop it off to a jeweler, and then he can pick the diamond up at the jeweler. And you pick up the setting of the jeweler.

[E]

Yeah, that might be a better idea.

[C]

You're not his priority right now.

[D]

Or you just take it to a jeweler and have them remove that. They can do that while you wait. Have him remove the stone in the setting, and then just take him the stone.

[B]

You turn that over to him. That's gone.

[A]

I was gonna say, they can also appraise it while you're there, too, and give you some sort of certificate to give him so he'll know that it's not like any sort of, like, fake diamond or whatever.

[C]

But what if it's less than the debt she owes him? I think it's better off just to give him the diamond and not be in the clear.

[A]

I Guess I was just think forward to the step where he says, well, how do I know if this is the diamond?

[E]

Right.

[A]

You know, if he needed some sort of paperwork, I'm sure the jeweler could give you something.

[C]

He's not real smart. He's gonna go into that much detail.

[B]

Hey, Michelle.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Thank you for calling.

[E]

Oh, well, I appreciate you guys calling and checking up on me.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, we got a couple of emails from people that were dying to know what you were gonna do. Appreciate it.

[E]

Oh, really? Well, that's good. I'm glad everybody. I'm glad I got help. I needed it.

[B]

Yeah, it sounds like a good compromise, actually.

[C]

Yeah. But I agree that, you know, Jen brought up a great point about how you need to keep your eye on that setting the whole time and not give it over to him.

[E]

Right. Like to get it back.

[A]

Good luck.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, you gotta do this. Cause you put that in his hands, it's gone. It's gone.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, Michelle, thank you.

[E]

Thank you, Bert show. I appreciate it.

[B]

Bye now. You know, I want to.

[D]

Glad to help. Any situations like that, go ahead and call us. Always glad to help.

[B]

You know the part that I want to stick with here because you know how we. We've said that it doesn't matter what we're talking about, that I think we've got a diverse enough listening audience now that somebody is listening that calls up and go, yeah, that's me that you're talking about.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So she says that the. The ex husband tells the new girlfriend that I'm going to use the diamond or I'm going to use my ex wife's wedding ring on you as your new engagement ring. And she says you she's fine with it. I want to know if there is another Burt show listener in our audience. 404-741-1005 that knows the ring you're wearing on your finger right now is that of his ex wife's. Ooh. All right. Because the way she describes it, the husband says, yeah, oh, the girlfriend was totally cool with it, fine with it. I'm having a hard time believing that. A real hard time. So if you're that woman, right? So you're walking around right now with a wedding ring on your finger that was fake formally your husband's ex wife's ring. Call us. Good morning, Robin.

[F]

Yes.

[B]

How are you today?

[E]

Pretty good.

[B]

All right, so we're speaking directly at you here, huh?

[F]

Yes.

[B]

Okay, go ahead.

[G]

I worked at OB GYN office and my ex fiance, he had proposed to me with this ring, who was actually his ex. He was engaged prior to me and had given me the ring he had given her, and she was a patient, so I was Drawn her blood, and she actually said, you know, that was my ring. And it was very embarrassing because, you know, she's a patient, and my employees, my co workers are all there, so.

[B]

Okay, we're gonna have to back up on this. Yeah.

[C]

Okay. Now for. Okay. All right.

[A]

Did you.

[C]

I don't even know where to start. But first of all, okay, now he engaged. He asked her to marry him, but they never got married. Right.

[G]

They never got married. And she. She was pregnant by him. Oh. And, I mean, it's a big. I mean, it. It sounds unbelievable, but it's true. And, like, he was. She was pregnant by him, and they were going through some stuff, and, you know, we started dating, and I actually went to the court, and that's how I met her is because they were trying to get their stuff back in court.

[C]

So you knew. You knew her before she was your patient?

[E]

Yes.

[C]

Okay.

[F]

So.

[G]

And I think she did. I mean, I don't know what her intentions were by continuing to come there. And I actually was pregnant, too, and he proposed to me with the ring that he had proposed to her with.

[B]

And you had no idea until she identified that ring on your finger?

[E]

Exactly.

[A]

I would.

[D]

Wow, that's gotta be an uncomfortable.

[C]

While you had a needle in her dumb.

[G]

She had waited till I was done, but I was drawn to her blood.

[E]

And that's when she said, but she.

[G]

Had known about me. And she was like, I hate to tell you this, but, you know, that's my ring. And I was like, oh, my God. I mean, I wanted to die. It was embarrassing.

[D]

That's a conversation that. Definitely Wade's. If you're at the ob GYN post speculum or whatever that thing is called.

[C]

She was drawn.

[A]

There was a. Jeff, don't even say it.

[D]

Like, you know, like.

[B]

Just bad timing.

[C]

Whoops.

[D]

Slipped.

[C]

Oh. Ow.

[A]

Now, did you believe her, or did you not believe her and then go to your fiance and ask him?

[G]

I. I believed her.

[E]

Just.

[G]

I mean, I just. I mean, it was such an amazing ring. I just was like, you know, how did he just, like, you know, go get this. And, I mean, I didn't. I believed her more than I did him.

[A]

And then when he went to go talk to him, what did he say?

[G]

He said that we were both effing psycho. And, you know, he turned it around.

[C]

It was your fault.

[D]

He turned it around and blamed it on You.

[G]

He tried to blame it on me.

[E]

Y' all are both crazy. Blah, blah, blah.

[G]

And I'm like.

[B]

And then he took off and you guys. It was over at that point.

[G]

Exactly.

[D]

You should have sold the ring and split the money.

[G]

Yeah, actually, I gave it back, so.

[B]

Good for you. And just be clean with it. Get them. Get them out of your life.

[G]

Exactly.

[B]

Thank you.

[E]

You're welcome. Thank you.

[B]

That's gonna be a tough one to beat right there.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Good morning, Sydney. You're on the Bird show. All the hits. Q100.

[F]

Hi, how are you?

[B]

Good. How are you?

[F]

I'm good. My husband, now, we've been married a little over a year. He gave me his ex wife's ring. They were married for eight years. The reason he did it, he told me he'd buy me another ring, which I have no problem with wearing this ring forever. Very pretty. The reason he did it, he's a full time Georgia tech student. He's 35. So he started school kind of late, but his mom noticed it and she was like, you don't mind wearing her ring. And I was like, no, ma', am, I don't. It doesn't bother me at all because he don't have a job and I'm working for him through college.

[B]

I still say, you know what, like, maybe I'm an old romantic and maybe I'm an old sentiment or whatever, but I swear to you, I would rather wear a piece of tinfoil around my finger than have that constant reminder of the other woman. Do you ever look down at it and think, man, this, this. I mean, this is kind of a reminder of the. Of his past life?

[E]

Not really.

[F]

I mean, he promised me. I mean, we didn't get to go on a honeymoon we had when we got married. We both. I had to go back to work and he had class the next day, so he promised me he'd buy me another ring. And I told him not to worry about it. I go, just buy me something to go with it. I go, because, I mean, it's a gorgeous ring. It's very, very pretty and doesn't remind me about her at all. I don't think about her. I mean.

[C]

Yeah, well, you know, but it. In this, in this situation, if I was the first wife, I'd love it. Like, you know, the thing is, like, guess what? She's wearing my ring. I mean, like the person. Yeah, the. The first wife. I mean, they're the ones that are sitting in the power position for sure because he, he bought that with her in Mind, you know, like. And so it's. Yeah. So, yeah.

[A]

I'm also surprised that the part of the ceremony where they bless the rings and, you know, as part of your vows, where they do this whole blessing on the rings didn't bother you.

[E]

No, I just.

[F]

I was happy to be with him. I had been married previously and I had to buy my ring last time, and I was just happy to get something I didn't have to buy.

[B]

So you were in the negative before. At least here you were. You were breaking even.

[F]

Yeah, right.

[B]

All right, all right. Thank you.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

She says pretty much.

[C]

Paying his school, too. I was laughing because the fact that she got the ex wife's ring, plus she's paying his school at Georgia Tech.

[D]

Wouldn't you think that even that, like, isn't that just a dangerous. Like, that could be a relationship ending proposition?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

Not even the action, but just like, you know, if Jen and I have been dating for so long, and I sit down and go, hey, Jen, listen, I think, you know, I'm gonna have to spend some time with your father in the next few weeks, if you know what I mean. But before I do that, I want to make sure you're okay with wearing Jessica's old ring.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

No, you're done.

[D]

That's it.

[B]

Yeah. Cause and if. Yeah, you're thinking that's not even an option.

[C]

No, it's not.

[B]

In any scenario, that's not even an option.

[C]

And I'm thinking less of you because you even consider the ring. Right?

[B]

Right. Hey, Nicole.

[E]

Hey.

[H]

I had a story about the engagement ring.

[B]

Yeah, please do.

[H]

A couple months ago, me and my. Well, he's now my ex fiance. We went to wild, and, you know, we're dancing, having a good time. All of a sudden, this girl, like.

[G]

Screamed out, hell no.

[H]

In the middle of the club. And I'm like, what's going on? She comes running over, she grabs my hand. I have no clue who she is. She's like, what the heck is this?

[E]

And blah, blah, blah.

[H]

She's like yelling and screaming at me. She said. She said my boyfriend's name. And she was like, this is my ring. I can't believe you gave this to her.

[E]

And I'm, you know, I'm like, oh.

[G]

My God, you know, who are you?

[H]

And she's like shaking my hand. She's trying to fight me in the middle of the club, trying to take my ring off. And, you know, and my boyfriend's just standing back there like, you know, oh.

[E]

My God, you know, they're gonna Fight each other. You know they're gonna try to kill each other.

[H]

And, you know, she just grabbed my hand.

[E]

And we're going round and round in.

[H]

The middle of the club.

[B]

All right, so we're gonna have to back up with you here for a second also. Okay. Because it's kind of dark. I mean, there's a lot of lights going on, but it's a strobe light situation here. You're out on the dance floor, she's out on the dance floor. How did she even get a glimpse at your hand and the ring on your finger?

[H]

I have no idea. Because, I mean, I was minding my business, you know, we were dancing together. I know I had my hand on his shoulder because we were like, just going crazy. And all of a sudden, just out.

[E]

Of nowhere, what the hell?

[H]

And like, she says, hell no.

[E]

And she just starts going crazy.

[D]

Hell no.

[B]

She said no.

[D]

Hell to the no.

[A]

Here's what happened. Some of her friends have spotted you as the new girlfriend at the club, and they've said, you gotta come out. She usually comes out on this night. And you got to see this thing on her, on her. On her hand. So, like, I bet before she ever saw you that night, she went there to see you guys together.

[H]

I would almost guarantee his ex before.

[F]

I've never met her.

[C]

So this is. So this is his ex.

[B]

This is the ex? Yeah.

[C]

I mean, it's been. I mean, you know, now that. That's his ex girlfriend.

[H]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[F]

Definitely.

[B]

Now before that, you didn't know that he was engaged, though?

[H]

Yeah, I didn't know that he had ever been engaged. And so he got caught in a lie, too. And I think that's why we're not together anymore.

[C]

And that is.

[B]

Well, good for you.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, absolutely.

[B]

Thanks for calling, Nicole.

[E]

You're welcome.

[B]

Appreciate it.

[D]

Byna.

[B]

Yeah, I think I would imagine. Or they just happened to be at the club at the same time, and the ex saw the ex boyfriend. She's like, that's the bitch that he's going out with now. And then just noticed the ring on the finger and just zeroed right in on it.

[C]

I'm not convinced that he didn't take her to the same hangout he took all his ex girlfriends. He knew he was going to be there in the pool of exes.

[D]

No, come on now, guys. Yeah, he would. That'd be an honest guy mistake. Guys wouldn't.

[C]

Yeah, guys don't pay attention to that. So, I mean, yeah, he's probably. They probably run into each other several.

[B]

Times and he can think of it.

[D]

Get it?

[B]

The Birch Show.