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[00:00]
A
Get it?
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B
The Bird show. Renee is in a sticky, sticky, sticky situation.
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C
I don't know if I'd use sticky.
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A
Poor trace of words.
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C
Yeah, we'll try a different one.
[00:14]
B
He obviously wants to be on the voice disguiser. Hey, Renee.
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D
Hi.
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A
Hi.
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B
You're on the Voice Disguiser.
[00:20]
E
Okay, good.
[00:21]
F
Thanks.
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B
Nobody can recognize your voice. What's going on?
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E
Okay. Basically, my best friend that I grew up with, she moved from Atlanta. We both grew up in Atlanta, but she moved a few years ago to a different city. I don't want to say the name of it because I just don't want anyone that might know her to hear this, but it's, like, a really fun city, and she went there to work on her entertainment career. And I finished college in December, and so I decided to go and, you know, like, move to the city, you know, kind of move in with her. She's been there. She didn't go to college, so she's been there since I started college. And so I got, like, you know, like a typical. Like, you know, I have, like, an office job, and she is in sales, so it's a little less typical. But, you know, sometimes she can work from home. Sometimes, you know, you have to, you know, go to the client's house. Sometimes it's on the phone, and sometimes she goes to an office. But she was never that specific about, like, what company it was. It wasn't that weird or anything. I mean, it's just kind of like she seems more, like, kind of embarrassed that, like, she's been trying to work on her entertainment career and that, like, she's actually kind of doing this to supplement it. So. So it wasn't, like, that weird that she didn't tell me, you know, all the details. But then one day, one of my neighbors, he made a comment to me about a bunch of visitors during the day to our apartment and asked him, like, why they were coming there.
[02:08]
G
Okay.
[02:09]
E
And I was, like, obviously kind of confused, but I actually just figured it was a different apartment, you know, that he made a mistake. But then I was. I wasn't feeling well last week, and I took off Thursday and Friday from work.
[02:30]
G
Okay.
[02:32]
E
And so she got up and, like, it was, like, totally normal, you know, everything. She went to work, and then, like, you know, like, a few hours later, this, like, guy comes to the door, and he asks if Carly's there. And I'm like, no. Like, you know, I'm not Carly. My roommate's not Carly. And he's like, like, are you sure? Like, are you sure? Like, it kind of like. Like. Like, I don't want to. I don't want to be, like, paranoid. But it was like, almost like it was like a code word or something. But he kept saying it. I was like, like, really? No. Like, you have the wrong apartment. And then he finally left. And then. And then I found a hotel key for a really, like, kind of fancy hotel that's only a block and a half from our apartment.
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B
Okay.
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E
Which really weirded me out because I thought, like, why would she have this? I mean, maybe she stayed at, you know, I don't know, maybe she, like, a guy she hooked up with or something. Me. Gave her the key. I don't know. But I talked about this with some of my guy friends, and they were like, she's a total hooker. But, like, first of all, you know, she's my best friend. We've been best friends since you were two. And I don't.
[03:50]
F
Like.
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E
I just have a hard time believing that she would do that. But at the same time, like, if she is doing that, I want to help her, but I can't just ask her, you know, Hooker.
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B
Wow.
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E
Kind of offended.
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G
So you're wondering. You're kind of a little. You're asking for advice on how to approach her with it.
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E
Yeah. Or how to, like, find out more information or how to approach her. Like, I. I don't feel like. Like, I don't really know what I would even say. Like, hey, some guy came to the door and asked for the wrong name. And it's like, went through stuff and done this hotel. I mean, I wasn't going through her
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F
stuff, but I feel like that's what it's going to look like.
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B
You know how we say on the show that it doesn't matter what we throw out there that someone listening always has been in the same situation, no matter how random it is?
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A
No way.
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B
Yeah. Amy says she said the exact same situation. Good morning, Amy. You're part of the Burt Show. Hi.
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H
Hi. I was just calling because this exact thing happened to me. Hard to believe, but it did back in 1994, when I was about 24 years old. I. I had a friend that I used to. I grew up with in Arizona, and she wanted me to move out there with her, and I didn't have anything going on. I lost my job at the time, and I moved out there to San Francisco with her, and I moved into her apartment, and she told me she, you know, was a cocktail waitress at this club, and she would come home with all this money and She. I would find her, you know, wearing different wigs to work and whatnot. And I, you know, just kind of occurred to me that maybe she might be doing something else. And I later found out that's what she was doing. She was a call girl.
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G
Wow.
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I
Wow.
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C
I don't get how one guy randomly at the door and then just a random hotel key can lead up to being a prostitute. I don't know. I think the wigs and outfits and stuff like that would definitely give it away. But a random hotel key. I mean, that could have been from any.
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A
From a block away, though.
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C
But that could have been from any, like, party. Like, if you had a friend who was coming in from town, like, from, like, Kennesaw and wanted to party in Atlanta and just didn't want to take a cab all the way home, get a hotel room for the night, and you just go hang out. But.
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I
Or she has a roommate. I mean, she want to go to a hotel. I mean, maybe she just likes. I mean, how are you convinced that she's taking money for having sex with guys? Let's say the guy that came.
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A
She's just a whore.
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I
No, no, no.
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G
I mean.
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I
I mean. I hate that word. But I mean, like, let's say that a guy comes to the door, and she just didn't give him her real name. Well, she wouldn't give him her home address either, though. I don't know. I'm just confused about the validity. Like, you don't miss that she's an actual prostitute.
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B
Can she. If. Renee, if your gut is saying that she's a prostitute, but you really don't have all that many details. Although you certainly have a couple of dots to put together. Can't you say something to her? Like, I just want to let you know, Blank and Blank have started this rumor about you.
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A
But it's not a rumor. Like, it's her presenting the facts. And they say that's unfair to do to the people who brought it up. Like, she. The only way to fairly do it without throwing anybody under the bus is to say, yeah, I was having a conversation about a couple weird coincidences. And that means they think you're a hooker.
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I
And the more I think about it, she would not bring the guys to her house.
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D
No.
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I
Why not? I really think that that guy. Yeah, I don't.
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G
Why wouldn't she?
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I
Once she's got a roommate. And two, it's her home. And I think that if you.
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A
Where do you take your clients?
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I
We'll call. We'll have other listeners. You Know, call up. But if you. If you are prostitute or a call girl, do you have them come to your place or do you go to theirs?
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C
That's what I would think, that they would have their own separate hotel room. Because watching cops, I mean, it tells you everything.
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B
But no, you have everything Wendy's learned, she's learned on cops.
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C
You do it in a car, you do it in a random hotel room, but you never bring the person back home because that's like, your protection.
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G
But some escorts have, like, regular clients that they see on a regular basis.
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B
But you would. You still wouldn't see them in your own home, though, would you? That would be pretty dangerous.
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G
I heard of one situation where that. That. That was true.
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B
Unless you're just like, a rookie escort and you don't know any better, you're
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I
making your rookie mistakes a roommate, then you says, come, come over to my house.
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B
And I'm sure you're making the same rookie mistakes. All escorts making it again. Hey, Jessica. Good morning. You're on the Bert Show. Hi.
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D
Hey. I was just listening to this, and I really don't see how this is any of her business.
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B
They're in the same house together.
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D
I understand that, but I feel like if she's doing something, whatever it is she's doing, she's not. If. I guess if she's not bringing them into the house, it sounds like she is.
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B
It sounds like she is bringing them
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D
into the house, but at the same time, I just don't think that this is any. That this woman's making more of a deal out of it than it needs to be.
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B
Jessica, if you had a roommate and you found a pound of cocaine in the closet that wasn't yours, it's a
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D
huge difference from finding a hotel key.
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B
No, I mean, the guy came to the door. Prostitution is. That's illegal.
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D
I understand that.
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B
So you say it's none of her business.
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D
Understand that. I just think that she should approach her and speak to her and tell her, you know, her concerns. But I don't think that she needs to be, you know, going at it this way and making it into, like, this huge thing and let's do an intervention and whatever. I think that's just not necessary.
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B
Okay, here is Jackie with a suggestion also. Hey, Jackie, we have Renee here who really thinks that her roommate may be an escort or a prostitute. The evidence isn't real strong, but there's some circumstantial evidence for sure.
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H
Here's some. Here's a way to get great evidence. One word. Nanny. Cam.
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B
Oh, you better be careful what you ask for, man.
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A
Yeah. How well do you know your friend?
[09:48]
G
True. She could get the proof and then decide if she wants to have the conversation or just move out.
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F
Wow.
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I
Well, the only proof is if she sees payment happen. Having a guy over having sex with him is not going to be proof that she's a prostitute.
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B
You know, And I don't.
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I
I mean, my thing is, the only thing that I would approach with her is the guy that came to the door and just say, look, are you using a fake name with guys? And, you know, is this the guy really was coming to see you? And start that. Maybe start off there.
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A
Why don't you just have somebody call her and ask for Carly, see how she responds? Or why don't you just start watching icarly all the time and see how uncomfortable it makes her?
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B
Hey, Kimberly. Good morning. You're on the Burt Show. Hi.
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D
My comment is this. If this person has been friends with this girl for as many years as she says she's been friends with her,
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H
why to me, if somebody's been friends that lost me.
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B
Hold on. He just burped.
[10:40]
A
Yep, that was me.
[10:41]
E
You should be able to talk to each other.
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D
You should be able to sit down and have a conversation with her and say, look, I think something's going on in your life.
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H
Let's talk about it now.
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B
How good of friends are you guys? I mean, if you are claiming you're best friends, the conversation is going to be hard. I mean, as an outsider, it's always easy to give the advice, just have a talk with her. But the truth is, all of these are uncomfortable.
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A
It's the first sentence. Cause usually my in is. I have to ask you something that's gonna be really. Is uncomfortable for both of us. But even with that cushion, that first sentence is still a tough one to get out. Are you a policeman? No. Professional prostitute.
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B
Joe here wants to be on the Voice disguiser as well. Hey, Joe. Good morning. You are on the Burt Show. Hi.
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F
Hey. Good morning.
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B
Good morning.
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F
Just to get right to it, where you're saying that they don't come to the house. Yes, they do. I'm actually a hobbyist. I participate at least twice a month in the whole thing where I go see a, you know, a call girl at her house. What's that? I'm sorry?
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I
I said at her house?
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F
Yeah.
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G
Okay.
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F
More than 50% of the ones, and I'm speaking from experience of over. Over 25, more than half has been their home.
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I
Okay.
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F
And where the last caller Said it's not her business. I thoroughly, thoroughly disagree. Because even knowing that I partake, it's very dangerous. It's very dangerous because you can't get caught and anybody in there will go to jail.
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B
Let me ask you this, Joe. Is it possible that the escorts homes that you go to are a second home?
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F
No, no, absolutely not. Because I say out of that half, maybe about a, you know, a quarter or a third of them, I've gotten to know them very well, almost like friends and. No, it's. It's their home.
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G
I heard about this at the hair salon once and I heard about a woman who lives here in Atlanta, and she's an agoraphobic where she doesn't like to leave the house. And she is an escort in her home so that she doesn't ever have to leave. So they come to her, she gets paid there, and she has, like, everything delivered to her. Her groceries, like, everything she needs because she wants to leave her house as little as possible.
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Really crazy.
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B
Hey, Joe.
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G
And since I heard it at the hair salon. It's true.
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B
It's gotta be true.
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G
It's totally true.
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B
Hey, Joe, I wanna put you on hold because I think you're a separate conversation for another time that I'd like to get into, you know, I wanna find out if, like, you're a married dude, why are you going and all
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I
that, Mr. 25 again, I wanna know,
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A
what'd you say at the beginning? You're a hobbyist.
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F
That's what we call it. The term is called. Because you don't walk around saying, oh, I'm somebody that goes and sees prostitutes. The terminology is called hobbying.
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A
Hobbying. Okay, how do you feel about that, Jen?
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G
How do you know that I'm not running my own hobbyist brothel?
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B
Hey, Joe, can I put you on hold and we'll get your phone number and we'll call you back and put you on the voice disguiser at another time?
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F
Sure, absolutely.
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B
All right, thank you. Yeah, that's gonna be an interesting conversation in itself. Well, anyway, I can't wait.
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A
I can't wait to go hobbying.
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I
I think that, you know, you've got it, this is your house, so you've got to talk to her. I mean, if she is a prostitute. And like he said, these guys are coming over to your house. You have every right in the world, uncomfortable or not, because not only danger, because you might get arrested, but who knows what these kind of guys are that are coming into your home and knocking on your door in the middle of the day.
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B
Totally. All right, Renee.
[14:15]
E
Or you think I should just like, kind of like, snoop more?
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B
Say again?
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E
You think I should just ask her straight out or should I just like, snoop around more?
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B
Let's go around the table here, Wendy.
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C
Ask her straight up.
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B
Ask her straight up.
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I
Talk to her straight up.
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B
Straight up.
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G
Call her mother. No, ask her straight up.
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A
I would throw out that word, Carly, a little bit and see what her reaction is.
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B
I think. I think I just asked straight up also. But if it was me, I wouldn't have the guts to do it. Alright, Renee, let me put you on hold, okay? Are you planning on doing this conversation this weekend?
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E
I mean, I guess, like I'm worried about now. Like Monday, like if the guys are gonna come over or whatever.
[14:59]
B
Sure. Okay. Let me put you on hold. We'll talk to you on Monday, okay?
[15:03]
E
Okay, thanks.
[15:04]
B
Alright, bye. Bye. You're on the Burt Show.

Summary5 min read

Podcast Summary: The Bert Show

Episode: Vault: Her roommate might be a hooker

Date: August 7, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode centers on a listener dilemma: “Renee” suspects her longtime best friend and new roommate might be working as a sex worker (or "hooker"), based on odd occurrences and vague details about her friend’s job. The Bert Show cast unpacks the situation, crowd-sources advice from listeners who've faced similar questions, debates privacy and safety issues, and ultimately tries to help Renee decide how to approach a difficult conversation. The episode blends real talk, humor, and empathetic advice, typical of The Bert Show's tone.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Renee’s Story: Suspicions About a Roommate

(00:25–04:01)

Renee shares her story via voice disguiser for privacy.
She describes moving in with her childhood best friend, who recently relocated to a different city to pursue an entertainment career.
The friend has an unusual work arrangement in “sales,” is vague about details, and appears a bit embarrassed.
Neighbor remarks about multiple daytime visitors to the apartment, prompting Renee to pay attention.
When home sick, Renee receives a mysterious male visitor asking for “Carly” (a name neither she nor her roommate uses).
She later finds a hotel key for a fancy hotel nearby.
After discussing with her guy friends, they suggest her roommate may be a “hooker.”
Quote (Renee, 03:49):

"I just have a hard time believing that she would do that. But at the same time, like, if she is doing that, I want to help her, but I can't just ask her, you know, Hooker."

2. The Cast Reacts: Balancing Suspicion and Evidence

(04:12–06:41)

The cast debates how much these “clues” really add up.
Wendy (cast) questions the logic:

"I don't get how one guy randomly at the door and then just a random hotel key can lead up to being a prostitute...I mean, that could have been from any...party." (05:50)
Host suggests the information is circumstantial but odd enough to ponder further.

3. Listener Stories: Real Life Parallels

Caller Amy, 04:49; Listener Jessica, 08:12; Listener Joe, 11:25

Amy calls in: Shares a nearly identical story from 1994:

"I would find her, you know, wearing different wigs to work and whatnot...I later found out that's what she was doing. She was a call girl." (04:49)
Jessica: Argues it’s not Renee’s business unless it endangers her safety or home. She advises Renee to quietly talk to her roommate but not overblow the situation (08:12).
Joe (“hobbyist”): Offers the perspective of a client, asserting that escorts sometimes do see clients at their actual residence, and that there are risks:

"I'm actually a hobbyist. I participate at least twice a month in the whole thing...more than half has been their home." (11:33)
"It's very dangerous because you can't get caught and anybody in there will go to jail." (12:04)

4. Ethics, Privacy, and Safety

(06:41–09:21)

Panel discusses whether Renee has a right (or an obligation) to intervene or snoop considering potential legal and personal safety risks.
Some panelists argue it’s critical to address it directly for safety.
Others say she should respect privacy unless something criminal and clear is seen.

5. Advice for Renee: Approaching Her Roommate

(09:21–14:36)

"Nanny cam" suggestion: As a possible way to confirm suspicions but recognized as ethically gray, even dangerous (09:36).
Multiple cast members and listeners say the best path is a direct but empathetic conversation.

"You should be able to sit down and have a conversation with her and say, look, I think something's going on in your life." (Listener, 10:41)
"I think I just asked straight up also. But if it was me, I wouldn't have the guts to do it." (Host, 14:41)
Some joke about using the “Carly” name as a test or watching “iCarly” to gauge a reaction (10:14, 14:36).

6. Risks for Both Roommates

(13:53–14:11)

The show underscores the risk to both women’s safety and the possibility of legal exposure.
Quote (cast, 13:54):

"if she is a prostitute... these guys are coming over to your house, you have every right in the world, uncomfortable or not, because not only danger, because you might get arrested, but who knows what these kind of guys are that are coming into your home and knocking on your door in the middle of the day."

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Wendy, on “evidence”:

"I don't get how one guy randomly at the door and then just a random hotel key can lead up to being a prostitute." (05:50)
Listener Joe, on 'hobbying':

"I'm actually a hobbyist. I participate at least twice a month...more than half has been their home." (11:33)
Renee, on the uncomfortable position:

"I just have a hard time believing that she would do that. But at the same time, like, if she is doing that, I want to help her, but I can't just ask her, you know, Hooker." (03:49)
Cast on how to broach the subject:

"I have to ask you something that's gonna be really...uncomfortable for both of us. But even with that cushion, that first sentence is still a tough one to get out. Are you a policeman? No. Professional prostitute." (Host, 11:01)

Suggested Timestamps

Renee Shares Her Suspicion: 00:25–04:12
Listener Amy’s Similar Experience: 04:49–05:48
Debate: Is There Enough Evidence? 05:50–06:41
Listener Jessica: Not Your Business? 08:12–09:21
Joe the “Hobbyist” Explains Perspective: 11:25–13:48
Final Advice: Confront or Snoop? 13:54–14:53

Conclusion & Takeaways

In true Bert Show style, the cast balances humor, empathy, and tough love as they walk Renee—and listeners—through a messy real-life scenario. The consensus advice: Have the uncomfortable conversation directly, prioritizing both roommates’ safety and the value of honest friendship. While the episode covers a potentially shocking topic, it focuses on supporting a friend without judgment and emphasizes communication and empathy above all.

“You’ve got to talk to her. I mean, if she is a prostitute… these guys are coming over to your house, you have every right in the world, uncomfortable or not.” (13:54)

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[00:00]
A
Get it?
[00:01]
B
The Bird show. Renee is in a sticky, sticky, sticky situation.
[00:08]
C
I don't know if I'd use sticky.
[00:11]
A
Poor trace of words.
[00:12]
C
Yeah, we'll try a different one.
[00:14]
B
He obviously wants to be on the voice disguiser. Hey, Renee.
[00:17]
D
Hi.
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A
Hi.
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B
You're on the Voice Disguiser.
[00:20]
E
Okay, good.
[00:21]
F
Thanks.
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B
Nobody can recognize your voice. What's going on?
[00:25]
E
Okay. Basically, my best friend that I grew up with, she moved from Atlanta. We both grew up in Atlanta, but she moved a few years ago to a different city. I don't want to say the name of it because I just don't want anyone that might know her to hear this, but it's, like, a really fun city, and she went there to work on her entertainment career. And I finished college in December, and so I decided to go and, you know, like, move to the city, you know, kind of move in with her. She's been there. She didn't go to college, so she's been there since I started college. And so I got, like, you know, like a typical. Like, you know, I have, like, an office job, and she is in sales, so it's a little less typical. But, you know, sometimes she can work from home. Sometimes, you know, you have to, you know, go to the client's house. Sometimes it's on the phone, and sometimes she goes to an office. But she was never that specific about, like, what company it was. It wasn't that weird or anything. I mean, it's just kind of like she seems more, like, kind of embarrassed that, like, she's been trying to work on her entertainment career and that, like, she's actually kind of doing this to supplement it. So. So it wasn't, like, that weird that she didn't tell me, you know, all the details. But then one day, one of my neighbors, he made a comment to me about a bunch of visitors during the day to our apartment and asked him, like, why they were coming there.
[02:08]
G
Okay.
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E
And I was, like, obviously kind of confused, but I actually just figured it was a different apartment, you know, that he made a mistake. But then I was. I wasn't feeling well last week, and I took off Thursday and Friday from work.
[02:30]
G
Okay.
[02:32]
E
And so she got up and, like, it was, like, totally normal, you know, everything. She went to work, and then, like, you know, like, a few hours later, this, like, guy comes to the door, and he asks if Carly's there. And I'm like, no. Like, you know, I'm not Carly. My roommate's not Carly. And he's like, like, are you sure? Like, are you sure? Like, it kind of like. Like. Like, I don't want to. I don't want to be, like, paranoid. But it was like, almost like it was like a code word or something. But he kept saying it. I was like, like, really? No. Like, you have the wrong apartment. And then he finally left. And then. And then I found a hotel key for a really, like, kind of fancy hotel that's only a block and a half from our apartment.
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B
Okay.
[03:22]
E
Which really weirded me out because I thought, like, why would she have this? I mean, maybe she stayed at, you know, I don't know, maybe she, like, a guy she hooked up with or something. Me. Gave her the key. I don't know. But I talked about this with some of my guy friends, and they were like, she's a total hooker. But, like, first of all, you know, she's my best friend. We've been best friends since you were two. And I don't.
[03:50]
F
Like.
[03:50]
E
I just have a hard time believing that she would do that. But at the same time, like, if she is doing that, I want to help her, but I can't just ask her, you know, Hooker.
[04:01]
B
Wow.
[04:02]
E
Kind of offended.
[04:06]
G
So you're wondering. You're kind of a little. You're asking for advice on how to approach her with it.
[04:13]
E
Yeah. Or how to, like, find out more information or how to approach her. Like, I. I don't feel like. Like, I don't really know what I would even say. Like, hey, some guy came to the door and asked for the wrong name. And it's like, went through stuff and done this hotel. I mean, I wasn't going through her
[04:31]
F
stuff, but I feel like that's what it's going to look like.
[04:33]
B
You know how we say on the show that it doesn't matter what we throw out there that someone listening always has been in the same situation, no matter how random it is?
[04:40]
A
No way.
[04:41]
B
Yeah. Amy says she said the exact same situation. Good morning, Amy. You're part of the Burt Show. Hi.
[04:49]
H
Hi. I was just calling because this exact thing happened to me. Hard to believe, but it did back in 1994, when I was about 24 years old. I. I had a friend that I used to. I grew up with in Arizona, and she wanted me to move out there with her, and I didn't have anything going on. I lost my job at the time, and I moved out there to San Francisco with her, and I moved into her apartment, and she told me she, you know, was a cocktail waitress at this club, and she would come home with all this money and She. I would find her, you know, wearing different wigs to work and whatnot. And I, you know, just kind of occurred to me that maybe she might be doing something else. And I later found out that's what she was doing. She was a call girl.
[05:48]
G
Wow.
[05:49]
I
Wow.
[05:50]
C
I don't get how one guy randomly at the door and then just a random hotel key can lead up to being a prostitute. I don't know. I think the wigs and outfits and stuff like that would definitely give it away. But a random hotel key. I mean, that could have been from any.
[06:03]
A
From a block away, though.
[06:05]
C
But that could have been from any, like, party. Like, if you had a friend who was coming in from town, like, from, like, Kennesaw and wanted to party in Atlanta and just didn't want to take a cab all the way home, get a hotel room for the night, and you just go hang out. But.
[06:16]
I
Or she has a roommate. I mean, she want to go to a hotel. I mean, maybe she just likes. I mean, how are you convinced that she's taking money for having sex with guys? Let's say the guy that came.
[06:27]
A
She's just a whore.
[06:28]
I
No, no, no.
[06:29]
G
I mean.
[06:29]
I
I mean. I hate that word. But I mean, like, let's say that a guy comes to the door, and she just didn't give him her real name. Well, she wouldn't give him her home address either, though. I don't know. I'm just confused about the validity. Like, you don't miss that she's an actual prostitute.
[06:42]
B
Can she. If. Renee, if your gut is saying that she's a prostitute, but you really don't have all that many details. Although you certainly have a couple of dots to put together. Can't you say something to her? Like, I just want to let you know, Blank and Blank have started this rumor about you.
[06:57]
A
But it's not a rumor. Like, it's her presenting the facts. And they say that's unfair to do to the people who brought it up. Like, she. The only way to fairly do it without throwing anybody under the bus is to say, yeah, I was having a conversation about a couple weird coincidences. And that means they think you're a hooker.
[07:12]
I
And the more I think about it, she would not bring the guys to her house.
[07:15]
D
No.
[07:15]
I
Why not? I really think that that guy. Yeah, I don't.
[07:19]
G
Why wouldn't she?
[07:21]
I
Once she's got a roommate. And two, it's her home. And I think that if you.
[07:24]
A
Where do you take your clients?
[07:25]
I
We'll call. We'll have other listeners. You Know, call up. But if you. If you are prostitute or a call girl, do you have them come to your place or do you go to theirs?
[07:33]
C
That's what I would think, that they would have their own separate hotel room. Because watching cops, I mean, it tells you everything.
[07:37]
B
But no, you have everything Wendy's learned, she's learned on cops.
[07:40]
C
You do it in a car, you do it in a random hotel room, but you never bring the person back home because that's like, your protection.
[07:46]
G
But some escorts have, like, regular clients that they see on a regular basis.
[07:51]
B
But you would. You still wouldn't see them in your own home, though, would you? That would be pretty dangerous.
[07:56]
G
I heard of one situation where that. That. That was true.
[07:59]
B
Unless you're just like, a rookie escort and you don't know any better, you're
[08:02]
I
making your rookie mistakes a roommate, then you says, come, come over to my house.
[08:06]
B
And I'm sure you're making the same rookie mistakes. All escorts making it again. Hey, Jessica. Good morning. You're on the Bert Show. Hi.
[08:13]
D
Hey. I was just listening to this, and I really don't see how this is any of her business.
[08:21]
B
They're in the same house together.
[08:23]
D
I understand that, but I feel like if she's doing something, whatever it is she's doing, she's not. If. I guess if she's not bringing them into the house, it sounds like she is.
[08:33]
B
It sounds like she is bringing them
[08:35]
D
into the house, but at the same time, I just don't think that this is any. That this woman's making more of a deal out of it than it needs to be.
[08:45]
B
Jessica, if you had a roommate and you found a pound of cocaine in the closet that wasn't yours, it's a
[08:52]
D
huge difference from finding a hotel key.
[08:55]
B
No, I mean, the guy came to the door. Prostitution is. That's illegal.
[09:00]
D
I understand that.
[09:01]
B
So you say it's none of her business.
[09:02]
D
Understand that. I just think that she should approach her and speak to her and tell her, you know, her concerns. But I don't think that she needs to be, you know, going at it this way and making it into, like, this huge thing and let's do an intervention and whatever. I think that's just not necessary.
[09:21]
B
Okay, here is Jackie with a suggestion also. Hey, Jackie, we have Renee here who really thinks that her roommate may be an escort or a prostitute. The evidence isn't real strong, but there's some circumstantial evidence for sure.
[09:36]
H
Here's some. Here's a way to get great evidence. One word. Nanny. Cam.
[09:41]
B
Oh, you better be careful what you ask for, man.
[09:44]
A
Yeah. How well do you know your friend?
[09:48]
G
True. She could get the proof and then decide if she wants to have the conversation or just move out.
[09:51]
F
Wow.
[09:52]
I
Well, the only proof is if she sees payment happen. Having a guy over having sex with him is not going to be proof that she's a prostitute.
[09:59]
B
You know, And I don't.
[10:02]
I
I mean, my thing is, the only thing that I would approach with her is the guy that came to the door and just say, look, are you using a fake name with guys? And, you know, is this the guy really was coming to see you? And start that. Maybe start off there.
[10:15]
A
Why don't you just have somebody call her and ask for Carly, see how she responds? Or why don't you just start watching icarly all the time and see how uncomfortable it makes her?
[10:27]
B
Hey, Kimberly. Good morning. You're on the Burt Show. Hi.
[10:30]
D
My comment is this. If this person has been friends with this girl for as many years as she says she's been friends with her,
[10:36]
H
why to me, if somebody's been friends that lost me.
[10:38]
B
Hold on. He just burped.
[10:40]
A
Yep, that was me.
[10:41]
E
You should be able to talk to each other.
[10:43]
D
You should be able to sit down and have a conversation with her and say, look, I think something's going on in your life.
[10:48]
H
Let's talk about it now.
[10:50]
B
How good of friends are you guys? I mean, if you are claiming you're best friends, the conversation is going to be hard. I mean, as an outsider, it's always easy to give the advice, just have a talk with her. But the truth is, all of these are uncomfortable.
[11:02]
A
It's the first sentence. Cause usually my in is. I have to ask you something that's gonna be really. Is uncomfortable for both of us. But even with that cushion, that first sentence is still a tough one to get out. Are you a policeman? No. Professional prostitute.
[11:25]
B
Joe here wants to be on the Voice disguiser as well. Hey, Joe. Good morning. You are on the Burt Show. Hi.
[11:31]
F
Hey. Good morning.
[11:32]
B
Good morning.
[11:33]
F
Just to get right to it, where you're saying that they don't come to the house. Yes, they do. I'm actually a hobbyist. I participate at least twice a month in the whole thing where I go see a, you know, a call girl at her house. What's that? I'm sorry?
[11:52]
I
I said at her house?
[11:53]
F
Yeah.
[11:53]
G
Okay.
[11:54]
F
More than 50% of the ones, and I'm speaking from experience of over. Over 25, more than half has been their home.
[12:03]
I
Okay.
[12:05]
F
And where the last caller Said it's not her business. I thoroughly, thoroughly disagree. Because even knowing that I partake, it's very dangerous. It's very dangerous because you can't get caught and anybody in there will go to jail.
[12:19]
B
Let me ask you this, Joe. Is it possible that the escorts homes that you go to are a second home?
[12:26]
F
No, no, absolutely not. Because I say out of that half, maybe about a, you know, a quarter or a third of them, I've gotten to know them very well, almost like friends and. No, it's. It's their home.
[12:41]
G
I heard about this at the hair salon once and I heard about a woman who lives here in Atlanta, and she's an agoraphobic where she doesn't like to leave the house. And she is an escort in her home so that she doesn't ever have to leave. So they come to her, she gets paid there, and she has, like, everything delivered to her. Her groceries, like, everything she needs because she wants to leave her house as little as possible.
[13:02]
I
Really crazy.
[13:04]
B
Hey, Joe.
[13:05]
G
And since I heard it at the hair salon. It's true.
[13:07]
B
It's gotta be true.
[13:08]
G
It's totally true.
[13:08]
B
Hey, Joe, I wanna put you on hold because I think you're a separate conversation for another time that I'd like to get into, you know, I wanna find out if, like, you're a married dude, why are you going and all
[13:17]
I
that, Mr. 25 again, I wanna know,
[13:20]
A
what'd you say at the beginning? You're a hobbyist.
[13:23]
F
That's what we call it. The term is called. Because you don't walk around saying, oh, I'm somebody that goes and sees prostitutes. The terminology is called hobbying.
[13:34]
A
Hobbying. Okay, how do you feel about that, Jen?
[13:38]
G
How do you know that I'm not running my own hobbyist brothel?
[13:43]
B
Hey, Joe, can I put you on hold and we'll get your phone number and we'll call you back and put you on the voice disguiser at another time?
[13:48]
F
Sure, absolutely.
[13:49]
B
All right, thank you. Yeah, that's gonna be an interesting conversation in itself. Well, anyway, I can't wait.
[13:53]
A
I can't wait to go hobbying.
[13:55]
I
I think that, you know, you've got it, this is your house, so you've got to talk to her. I mean, if she is a prostitute. And like he said, these guys are coming over to your house. You have every right in the world, uncomfortable or not, because not only danger, because you might get arrested, but who knows what these kind of guys are that are coming into your home and knocking on your door in the middle of the day.
[14:12]
B
Totally. All right, Renee.
[14:15]
E
Or you think I should just like, kind of like, snoop more?
[14:18]
B
Say again?
[14:20]
E
You think I should just ask her straight out or should I just like, snoop around more?
[14:25]
B
Let's go around the table here, Wendy.
[14:27]
C
Ask her straight up.
[14:28]
B
Ask her straight up.
[14:29]
I
Talk to her straight up.
[14:30]
B
Straight up.
[14:31]
G
Call her mother. No, ask her straight up.
[14:37]
A
I would throw out that word, Carly, a little bit and see what her reaction is.
[14:41]
B
I think. I think I just asked straight up also. But if it was me, I wouldn't have the guts to do it. Alright, Renee, let me put you on hold, okay? Are you planning on doing this conversation this weekend?
[14:53]
E
I mean, I guess, like I'm worried about now. Like Monday, like if the guys are gonna come over or whatever.
[14:59]
B
Sure. Okay. Let me put you on hold. We'll talk to you on Monday, okay?
[15:03]
E
Okay, thanks.
[15:04]
B
Alright, bye. Bye. You're on the Burt Show.